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| Stskeeps | hello beast | 04:39 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:50 |
| Stskeeps | morn iekku | 04:51 |
| E-P | morning iekku, Stskeeps | 04:52 |
| iekku | morning gentlemen | 04:52 |
| iekku | :) | 04:52 |
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| iekku | (i spoke to you E-P and Stskeeps :P ) | 04:52 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 04:53 |
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| E-P | iekku: :) | 04:59 |
| E-P | timoph: could you submit tr-lite and test-definition to mer:tools:testing? | 05:01 |
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| timoph | E-P: I can | 05:40 |
| E-P | timoph: thanks, you have them nicely packaged already in your home :) | 05:41 |
| timoph | E-P: I push tr-lite first but I'm going to change test-definition's packaging a bit before pushing it forward | 05:41 |
| timoph | (include the results transformation) | 05:41 |
| timoph | and s/meego/mer/ | 05:41 |
| timoph | :) | 05:41 |
| E-P | ok | 05:41 |
| timoph | I'll also push eat | 05:42 |
| timoph | better to get them out of my home | 05:42 |
| E-P | that would be nice | 05:43 |
| E-P | you make the test-definition changes to gitorious? | 05:43 |
| timoph | the meego -> mer renaming needs to be done there | 05:44 |
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| timoph | actually I'm thinking what would be a good way to leave it generic | 05:44 |
| timoph | so that whoever uses it can easily set the displayed name | 05:45 |
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| timoph | we would introduce an install script that takes it as a parameter | 05:45 |
| E-P | where the name is displayed, in the results? | 05:45 |
| timoph | yep | 05:45 |
| timoph | big bold letters in the top right corner | 05:46 |
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| E-P | could we leave the original xsl without any name or just generic name? | 05:48 |
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| E-P | and change that to Mer in mer git? | 05:48 |
| E-P | also if we want to change the theme of the results later in Mer | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | / spec | 05:49 |
| E-P | true | 05:49 |
| timoph | yep | 05:49 |
| E-P | timoph: so maybe the install script is not bad idea :) | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | or perhaps a vendor field in results.xml | 05:51 |
| E-P | timoph: the xsl file has many urls to qa-reports.meego.com, those we need to change at somepoint | 05:51 |
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| Stskeeps | i could easily imagine a vendor will do both mer and product results | 05:51 |
| timoph | yeah. I think it's pulling graphics or something from there | 05:52 |
| timoph | (haven't looked) | 05:52 |
| timoph | E-P: smells like a new bug to me :) | 05:52 |
| E-P | timoph: yes, stylesheet stuff | 05:52 |
| E-P | I can file | 05:52 |
| timoph | hmmh. Maybe I'll just push the stuff we currently have so it's easier for other people to contribute | 05:53 |
| timoph | as is that is | 05:53 |
| * timoph waiting for osc co to finish | 05:54 | |
| timoph | I have too much stuff in my home project :/ | 05:54 |
| E-P | and creating tags to gitorious | 05:54 |
| timoph | you can do that as well :) | 05:54 |
| E-P | (I really need a linux computer to work) | 05:55 |
| E-P | cannot do anything without it | 05:55 |
| * timoph uses a virtual machine at work | 05:55 | |
| E-P | not allowed here :/ | 05:55 |
| Stskeeps | ssh\ | 05:55 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 05:55 |
| timoph | E-P: that's just sad | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | can always rent a cheap hetzner virtual machine | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | (hetzner.de) | 05:56 |
| E-P | Stskeeps: looking | 05:57 |
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| Stskeeps | 8eur/month | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | for smallest | 05:59 |
| timoph | if you just needs a shell then kapsi might be a good choice (~30e/year) | 05:59 |
| E-P | Stskeeps: not bad price at all | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | with free traffic an LAN access to mer servers too ;) | 06:03 |
| E-P | heh | 06:03 |
| E-P | timoph: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313 | 06:03 |
| timoph | eat sr#4750 | 06:05 |
| timoph | I'll update test-definition and sr it next... | 06:05 |
| timoph | but first some air.. | 06:06 |
| E-P | I guess lbt can accept those request? | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, think he will when awake | 06:16 |
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| vgrade | morning | 06:26 |
| timoph | test-definition sr#4751 (now also install the results transformation) | 06:26 |
| timoph | testrunner-lite sr#4752 | 06:28 |
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| E-P | timoph: thanks | 06:28 |
| timoph | so let's start filing bugs against those versions :) | 06:29 |
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| niqt | morning all | 06:30 |
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| timoph | E-P: did you look closer on what the test-definition xsl links to meego are? something that we need to host somewhere else? | 06:31 |
| E-P | timoph: jquery and css stylesheets, and then syntax.xsl has link to bugs.meego.com at least | 06:31 |
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| E-P | we should host the default css stylesheets somewhere, and vendors can use their own if they want to | 06:32 |
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| E-P | the result.xls uses the same stylesheet as qa-reports | 06:33 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, where do I find kickstarter tools to make a ks? | 06:33 |
| slaine | morning all | 06:34 |
| vgrade | morning slaine | 06:34 |
| slaine | hey vgrade | 06:34 |
| timoph | E-P: so there's some work to be done. dunno if we need to do much changes to the stylesheet, etc. but anyway | 06:35 |
| E-P | timoph: yes, let's see how we solve that, not big priority at the moment | 06:36 |
| timoph | true | 06:36 |
| timoph | on a related note, do we want the results to look good offline as well? | 06:38 |
| E-P | I think that would be nice to have, but not investing much effort on that | 06:39 |
| timoph | yeah. just something to keep in mind | 06:39 |
| E-P | you can file a bug about that :) | 06:40 |
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| timoph | was just wondering is that worth filing | 06:40 |
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| iekku | timoph, why not, as a memo it would be good | 06:47 |
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| timoph | can someone add me to the default cc list for qa tools bugs? | 06:52 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, found them now | 06:55 |
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| iekku | timoph, to all qa-tools components? | 07:03 |
| timoph | iekku: there are not that many so yes :) | 07:03 |
| timoph | makes it easier to follow what's going on | 07:04 |
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| iekku | timoph, what is you username? | 07:06 |
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| timoph | iekku: guess? :) (hint: you just said it) | 07:10 |
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| iekku | interesting | 07:10 |
| iekku | can't find you | 07:10 |
| timoph | hmmh | 07:10 |
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| iekku | now i managed to find, needed to skip ph | 07:11 |
| iekku | timoph, now you are default cc | 07:12 |
| timoph | thanks | 07:12 |
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| licl | #qtmediahub | 07:21 |
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| * timoph filed #314 (the offline results transformation thing) | 07:23 | |
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| Stskeeps | anyone with a standard 'osc' and non-mer 'build' on their PC with a build.pub.meego.com who wants to check something for me? | 07:34 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning sonach | 07:41 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: good morning! | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: do you know the company/shop IKEA? | 07:42 |
| iekku | `:o | 07:42 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: 'IKEA' seems to be abbreviations of many items, I don't quite sure, | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ah, it's a swedish shop that sells furniture all over the world | 07:43 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: why do you mention this? I am very curious... | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: reason why i'm asking is because of this: http://pastie.org/3809122 - they're going to make furniture with smart TV inside | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | based on TCL chinese tv | 07:44 |
| sroedal | yep, saw that | 07:44 |
| timoph | E-P: I think I'll just remove the logo completely from the git version | 07:45 |
| timoph | E-P: leaving the element there but with src="" and alt="" | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: the company is famously known for having many different designs, so it's an interesting direction for them - because computers are going to be more in your home and surroundings, why not in furniture :) | 07:46 |
| sonach | slaine: TCL is one of the six TV vendors I mentioned before. And this system seems to be a kind of 'furnish' when people decorate their new home | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:50 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Do you know what OS of the Smart TV they are using? | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: no, sadly | 07:51 |
| sonach | slaine: hi, On you Mer OBS VM setup guide, you mentioned "the br0 device should be up with an IP from the LAN's dhcp server". So there must be a dhcp server in the LAN? | 07:52 |
| slaine | Well, you could use a fixed IP if you don't have any network infrastructure | 07:52 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Now TCL's most smart TVs on sell are running Android. And Now Mstar only provides Android framework APIs for TV vendors. Only on a few platforms Mstar provides linux SDKs. | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | i'll upload the video for you of the IKEA thing | 07:54 |
| timoph | E-P: https://gitorious.org/test-execution-tools/test-definition/merge_requests/1 | 07:54 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: But for STBs, Android will not be the first choise:) | 07:56 |
| sonach | slaine: So, br0 is only used for the buildhost, not for the VMs? | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/0Nm7-EuctOs.flv , 7mb | 07:57 |
| slaine | sonach: Yup | 07:59 |
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| iekku | hi andre__ | 08:14 |
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| timoph | hmmh. I'm actually not sure if we even need the css stuff with the results | 08:16 |
| timoph | doesn't look that bad offline | 08:16 |
| timoph | http://timoph.fi/plainresults.png | 08:19 |
| timoph | although the graphs don't work.. | 08:20 |
| andre__ | Hola iekku! | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | i'll ask again: anyone with a standard 'osc' and non-mer 'build' on their PC with a build.pub.meego.com who wants to check something for me? | 08:22 |
| E-P | timoph: I would like to have the css, looks bit nicer :) | 08:23 |
| timoph | E-P: yeah. I'm just looking how it behaves if we make tr-lite always write the reference to the xls | 08:25 |
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| E-P | nod, looking your merge request | 08:25 |
| * timoph lunch. bbl | 08:25 | |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I can get a non-mer system up | 08:32 |
| lbt | timoph: SRs accepted | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, please test the debian_6.0_standard build | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | i cannot see how my patches can cause that | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | of 'mic' | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | on a local osc build | 08:33 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i've seen a mailing list post reporting a similar problem, on opensuse build service mailing list | 08:35 |
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| E-P | timoph: I commented the merge request | 08:36 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: ie: ....../cobs/Mer:Tools:Testing/mic$ osc build mic.dsc Debian_6.0_standard x86_64 | 08:37 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | no | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | i586 | 08:37 |
| lbt | ^C | 08:37 |
| lbt | just less in the cache.... | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | and --lcean | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | clean | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:37 |
| lbt | yes, it's clean | 08:38 |
| lbt | I don't tend to build for Debian anymore :) | 08:38 |
| lbt | and of course my desktop has standard build | 08:38 |
| lbt | 2011.10.10-1 (which is the Debian version .... as a good starting point) | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:44 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: sorry, local build finished just fine :/ | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | wtf | 08:52 |
| lbt | what error do you get? | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | dpkg-source: warning: extracting unsigned source package (mic_0.4.dsc) | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | dpkg-source: info: extracting mic in mic-0.4 | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | dpkg-source: info: unpacking mic_0.4.orig.tar.gz | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | dpkg-source: info: applying mic_0.4.diff.gz | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | dpkg-source: error: expected ^@@ at line 155 of diff `./mic_0.4.diff.gz' | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | i even get that in the chroot | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | which is really bizarre | 08:54 |
| lbt | grumble pastie won't take my log | 08:54 |
| lbt | bbiab ... our drains are broken and the builder is here.... | 08:55 |
| lbt | here's my build log | 08:55 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3809391 | 08:56 |
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| Stskeeps | hello chris19023890183 (wow, that's a complex nick) | 08:57 |
| chris19023890183 | Hi, chris was taken so... :) | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | so what brings you here? | 09:00 |
| chris19023890183 | Anyhow, got interested on trying to run Nemo on N900 after messing around with MaeMeeMo-project | 09:01 |
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| Macer | ok | 09:02 |
| Macer | limia 900.... is awesome | 09:02 |
| Macer | lumia | 09:02 |
| Macer | just when you thought nokia was on the brink :-) | 09:02 |
| chris19023890183 | The phone is probably great but I'm not that fond of MS-products (I don't own a single MS product and I don't intend to change that in the near future either..) ;-) | 09:03 |
| Bostik | oy, MS-branded split-ergo keyboard is the only one available | 09:05 |
| E-P | uh, I had that kind of keyboard.. it was good | 09:06 |
| chris19023890183 | Oh well, yes. They also have (or had) a great mouse. I was though more thinking about their software products | 09:06 |
| chris19023890183 | Is there any news/info on how mature Nemo is on N900? | 09:12 |
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| slaine | chris19023890183: should probably go to #nemomobile for those queries | 09:17 |
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| chris19023890183 | Ah, ok! Thanks! | 09:18 |
| niqt | do we can do the same with nemo (here says Android)? http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/18/2956494/some-nokia-800-and-nokia-710-can-be-unlocked-thanks-to-qualcomm?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter | 09:22 |
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| E-P | Stskeeps, lbt, timoph: I added some basic stuff to http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Quality/Test_processes | 09:33 |
| E-P | I will also post that url to mailing list for tomorrow's qa meeting | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 09:35 |
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| * l3i wonders how he can reset his password for the Mer wiki having left email field empty when creating an account | 09:39 | |
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| timoph | E-P: I'll change the bugzilla hostname to 172.0.0.1 in upstream | 09:42 |
| timoph | E-P: actually I think I'll take back the mergereq and start working on the "build/install/confuguration" script for it | 09:43 |
| timoph | that should fix that issue too | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | l3i: prod alterego later | 09:44 |
| E-P | timoph: ok, we should define what belongs to upstream and what not | 09:44 |
| timoph | E-P: yeah | 09:44 |
| E-P | timoph: I would like to keep the upstream as generic as possible, but that is not always possible | 09:46 |
| timoph | yep. that's my thinking as well | 09:47 |
| timoph | so things like bugzilla, logo, etc. are things that clearly belong to the configurable things | 09:47 |
| l3i | Stskeeps: Hmm, didn't quite get that.. The thing is, I created an account for myself, forgot the password, and didn't have email listed | 09:47 |
| timoph | although we might provide some default logo, etc. | 09:48 |
| E-P | I agree | 09:48 |
| E-P | l3i: alterego maintains the mer wiki, he can help you | 09:49 |
| lbt | back | 09:49 |
| l3i | E-P: Ok, I see | 09:49 |
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| lbt | Bostik: I'm with chris19023890183 ... but I'm more than happy to type on my MS 4000 keyboard - I don't begrudge them the kb market ;) | 09:51 |
| Bostik | lbt: true enough, I don't have any MS software (to my knowledge) in my household but good hardware is hard to come by and MS can't really cripple a keyboard... | 09:53 |
| timoph | E-P: just thinking how to do the configuration in a clean straight forward way | 09:53 |
| timoph | E-P: maybe we'll just add ie. 127.0.0.1 as the bugzilla hostname and do sed replace on it during the configuration | 09:54 |
| timoph | althought the replaced things need to be unique.. | 09:55 |
| E-P | timoph: or with patch | 09:55 |
| timoph | hmmh | 09:55 |
| l3i | I'll not be able to join the QA meeting tomorrow either (in case it's at 2 or 3pm Finnish time) | 09:58 |
| E-P | l3i: it is this time at 14 Finnish time | 09:59 |
| l3i | Ok, then no luck.. even before noon would have been difficult, though. So I'll just not be there | 09:59 |
| E-P | if you have some ideas to the mapping, you could send a post to mailing list | 10:00 |
| l3i | E-P: Ok | 10:01 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: fyi building in the Mer SDK fails for debian for a different reason... -su: cd /usr/src/packages/BUILD && dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot-tcp : No such file or directory | 10:01 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: yes, that one is known | 10:02 |
| lbt | use of su ? | 10:03 |
| lbt | osc chroot Debian_6.0_standard ; then cd /usr/src/packages/BUILD && dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot-tcp works | 10:04 |
| l3i | E-P: I'd prefer an approach as simple as possible at this stage. I'd maybe use a "plain" text file in Git over XML or a database for the mappings, and use test packages for all tests | 10:04 |
| lbt | l3i: +1 | 10:04 |
| E-P | l3i: thanks for the input, that sounds reasonable | 10:05 |
| * lbt suggests that when you look at the mapping there will be a need to describe the relationship | 10:05 | |
| lbt | ie given PkgA:TestA and PkgA:TestB when do you run TestA and when TestB ? | 10:06 |
| l3i | lbt: I'd have separate mapping files for different main testing processes/stages | 10:07 |
| lbt | personally I'd thought about describing the test ... ie "needs tcp, takes 4hrs" | 10:08 |
| l3i | lbt: Yes, of course, descriptions should be included somehow | 10:08 |
| lbt | well, if we could decide on some key criteria as to *why* we run different tests at different stages then we could flag them | 10:09 |
| lbt | "needs human input" | 10:09 |
| lbt | one key thing is that everything should be parseable to allow automated decision making | 10:10 |
| lbt | and ideally it allows a decision... not records the results of a decision | 10:10 |
| l3i | lbt: Yep, I agree | 10:10 |
| lbt | so I mean the reason for putting a test in every post-build vs release only | 10:11 |
| l3i | lbt: But the mapping data should still all also be as human-readable as possible | 10:11 |
| lbt | l3i: yep - I wouldn't be surprised if text became json quite soon | 10:11 |
| lbt | and if there were a range of readable keywords | 10:11 |
| lbt | but that's solution :) | 10:12 |
| l3i | lbt: Yep, maybe still too early for that level of detail. Maybe a few iterations required | 10:12 |
| lbt | so Stskeeps... are you working on this build issue? | 10:13 |
| l3i | lbt: Actually I think I'll get a bit more into json, as I don't know much about that yet actually | 10:14 |
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| lbt | it and yaml are quite nice ways to represent structured data - similar to basic XML but without the annoying <tag> </tag> | 10:15 |
| l3i | lbt: That already makes them both sound quite attractive | 10:16 |
| lbt | thinking about it yaml is used a fair bit around Mer and it's a superset of json - I'd select it over json when picking a parser | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: yes, just confused atm | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: and on the phone, so talk later | 10:19 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK I'll do other things - yell if you want me to take a look | 10:19 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: @$%@% | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: of course it stops happening after someone updated 'mic' | 10:29 |
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| lbt | ah | 10:38 |
| lbt | I did update it last night before you told me you were using it as a test-case ... and it may have fixed the SDK loop issue | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | so what can we conclude, merproject/ branch plus my patch is safe for the usual suspects? | 10:42 |
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| E-P | lbt, l3i: Sorry, I was away. I will add your comments to the wiki | 10:48 |
| E-P | good base for tomorrow's meeting | 10:49 |
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| E-P | one comment to the describing the tests, that should be done in the tests.xml, not anymore in the mapping | 11:02 |
| E-P | but test package relationship could be in the mapping | 11:02 |
| l3i | E-P: Yep, agree | 11:04 |
| l3i | E-P: Somehow I forgot to think of that.. | 11:04 |
| l3i | Hmm, isn't necessarliy that simple though | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | E-P: input for test mapping, we also have something like http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=tree | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | which is the mer core, as an object, practically | 11:11 |
| E-P | how does it work? | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | long story short, we have something called MDS/mer delivery system/fakeobs, which acts like a remote OBS -- it takes things like mer/project-core and exports it as a OBS project over the wire | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | and sends sources based on the git repositories commits the project-core indicates | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | it means anyone can resurrect mer anywhere | 11:13 |
| Stskeeps | so project-core describes a given version of mer, metadata, project configuration, what source versions are used, etc | 11:13 |
| E-P | ok | 11:13 |
| Stskeeps | also lists what packages are in mer :P | 11:14 |
| l3i | By the way, could there be a need to map different package versions against different test packages? I'd guess there might be in some cases | 11:18 |
| E-P | good idea, sometimes might be needed, example when changing some core package version and tests only work with the newer or older version | 11:20 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo _ilf_ | 11:21 |
| l3i | E-P: A separate record for each different version range of a package in the mapping data? | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | that's a good proposal, actually | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | we are going to have 'stabilization branches' at some point | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | ie, 'meego 1.2' kinda | 11:22 |
| _ilf_ | hi all | 11:22 |
| E-P | l3i: yes, or git SHA | 11:22 |
| l3i | E-P: Hmm, how would you use that in practice? | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | l3i: for mer, each package commit has a git sha | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | as well | 11:23 |
| E-P | l3i: haven't thought that so far yet :) | 11:23 |
| l3i | E-P: Ok :) | 11:23 |
| l3i | Stskeeps: Well, if the package -> test package mapping anyway was Mer-specific, using the SHAs would maybe do of course | 11:24 |
| E-P | if we want to test a stable mer release, we need to compile the tests against that | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | ideally we'd be able to expand this to vendors too though, so that requires some thought | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | as you typically don't test just core, you test it in combination with perhaps a ui, or a hardware adaptation, and those need testing too | 11:25 |
| l3i | Stskeeps: Yes, that can complicate things | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: my vote is that we admit my patch to Merproject/build , make a version of 'build' for mer:obs:testing, and throw COBS into the fire with it | 11:27 |
| _ilf_ | guys, am i the only one with problem picking up a call and making one on the n900, or is this a well know situation? | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | _ilf_: on nemo? | 11:33 |
| _ilf_ | yep | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | maybe, check the bugtracker | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | bugs.nemomobile.org | 11:34 |
| _ilf_ | i walked through all the categories, but couldn't find it | 11:34 |
| _ilf_ | i assume its in 'hardware adaptations' | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | nah, dialer area possibly | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | file a bug else | 11:36 |
| slaine | anyone have a sysv init script for MDS ? | 11:37 |
| slaine | before I go write one | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: where do you find lbt's scripts for obs setup? | 11:46 |
| slaine | he put the setup-obs.sh and .conf up on pastebin | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | and general impression of them? easy to get things working? | 11:52 |
| Sage | hows the release progressing? any news on .0.2? | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | i suspect 0.1 is fine, the problem lays in the special patches we did on cobs | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | and a bit in my sb2 patches in 'build' too | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | i think we can reasonably expect release to be delayed | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:58 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: testsuite: http://pastie.org/3810166 | 12:07 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: I'd a good few problems with fe section | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: ok | 12:09 |
| slaine | I replaced the DB setup bit in the script with the commands given in the wiki and then it worked (though the obsapischeduler still gave an error after completing the script, after a reboot everything seemed ok) | 12:10 |
| slaine | From a be and worker pov, it all worked perfectly | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 12:14 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: which rpm package offers command tar? | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: tar | 12:18 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: not find it in mer's repo | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120405.1/builds/armv7l/packages/armv7l/tar-1.17-1.8.Mer.armv7l.rpm | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | not looking very hard | 12:20 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: sorry for it, but my network is so bad, so the page is not display fully | 12:21 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: ah, no problem :) | 12:21 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: in the evening, too many people try to have fun with internet. | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, same here in europe | 12:24 |
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| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: you guys know we run a rsync service on releases.merproject.org right? | 12:29 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: not really for me | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | so you can cache an entire mer release locally with rsync -ar rsync://releases.merproject.org/mer/releases/RELEASE/ . etc | 12:35 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yeah, ok | 12:36 |
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| Stskeeps | E-P: i feel we're missing the manual testing angle, ie, humans doing testing and how that could be done | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | like, that's something vendors for sure would use | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | to discuss it, at least | 12:49 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: comment on 'hwiddetect', we have a thing called boardname that might be good for that | 12:55 |
| E-P | Stskeeps: definitely, the tools are supporting the manual testing, we have to discuss when and how manual tests can be executed | 12:57 |
| Hexxeh | gah | 13:03 |
| Hexxeh | ./chrome: symbol lookup error: /opt/vc/lib/libGLESv2.so: undefined symbol: client_tls again | 13:03 |
| Hexxeh | not having much luck with that hack Stskeeps | 13:04 |
| Hexxeh | any hints as to what i might be doing wrong? | 13:07 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: where the /usr/src/ dir was located when the sb2 problem fixed in -next is there? | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | Hexxeh: you don't have a TLS enabled glibc? | 13:09 |
| Hexxeh | using the debian image | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know offhand | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: sorry, what? | 13:10 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: in current release the /usr/src/ dir content isn't there but it is somewhere else not mapped to the env. Can I reach that content from some /x/y/x dir? | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: -possibly- /target | 13:12 |
| Sage | so /target/usr/src/ | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | this is just a hunch, fwiw | 13:12 |
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| Sage | doesn't help :/ | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | damnit | 13:16 |
| * Sage ponders if there would be easier way to push stuff to the galaxy nexus than changing kernel and booting android | 13:17 | |
| Stskeeps | kexec? | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | sshd | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:25 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK - drain fixed .... *ugh* | 13:28 |
| lbt | so we throw build at cobs and stand well back | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: that's the idea, i've checked usual suspects and documented them | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://pastie.org/3810560 is the patch, please merge to merproject/build or how you want to do it | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | you need to apply your xen patches on top as well, naturally | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | worst case scenario we find out what actually makes things blow up | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | and know that for next time | 13:33 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt, and we agree this is without your quoting patches? | 13:42 |
| lbt | yes | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | ok, just checking | 13:45 |
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| lbt | so it's building now | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | i'll take cover behind the popcorn machine.. | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:51 |
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| * lbt takes a last look at his nice stable OBS... | 13:57 | |
| lbt | erm ... I don't think we should be rebuilding pkgs in MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan:Apps | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 14:07 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3810166 | 14:07 |
| lbt | I'll copypac them to TestBuilds | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that was the idea | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | gave you project, repo name, arch | 14:08 |
| lbt | I just rebuilt mic since it was our Testiing area - no probs there | 14:08 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | test a ar, core-next too | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | arm | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | and core current | 14:12 |
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| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Mer%3AOBS%3ATestBuilds | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | you forgot xen rw patches | 14:24 |
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| Stskeeps | (am i right?) | 14:31 |
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| lbt | no | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://pastie.org/3810910 | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://pastie.org/3810920 for fix | 14:37 |
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| lbt | ah balls - I only checked build+common+functions | 14:38 |
| lbt | is that a xen thing do you think? | 14:39 |
| lbt | it doesn't affect any other builds (clearly) | 14:39 |
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| Stskeeps | it's a sb2 + xen thing | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | i did not check with xen, only kvm | 14:40 |
| lbt | is it really a "nasty rw remount" then? or is it a "we have to do this" | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | it's a nasty remount because for some obscure reason, kvm and others are mounted rw, but xen isn't | 14:41 |
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| lbt | goddam it - now OBS zypper ref is not picking up new pkg | 14:51 |
| Stskeeps | repo not getting published? | 14:53 |
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| lbt | mmmm | 14:53 |
| lbt | cobs publishing is failing | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | that can't be my fault :P | 14:54 |
| lbt | 'tis | 14:54 |
| lbt | it's all your fault | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:54 |
| * lbt sobs ... | 14:55 | |
| lbt | ntp is broken | 14:55 |
| * Sage smiles to update time of the new tomtom lying on the bed. | 14:55 | |
| Sage | How can update take almost 4 hours :D | 14:56 |
| lbt | HD ariel maps? | 14:56 |
| Sage | Full set of europe maps 3G of size | 14:57 |
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| Sage | It already downloaded the maps (or at least it told me so) and is now installing them | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | slow sd card? :P | 14:58 |
| Sage | hah, complaining in twitter works now it is only 1.5hours after beeing 30 mins above 3 hours :) | 15:02 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Mer%3AOBS%3ATestBuilds# | 15:02 |
| lbt | forced a manual install of rpm on cbe... | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | and now osc rebuild --all of :TestBuilds ? | 15:03 |
| lbt | F5 | 15:04 |
| lbt | => coffee | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | i'm so glad you didn't write => holiday | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:05 |
| slaine | loud punk music and coffee are fuelling one intense fire fighting coding session today | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like a good day | 15:10 |
| slaine | 9 hours straight so far | 15:10 |
| iekku | punk music <3 | 15:11 |
| iekku | slaine, what band? | 15:11 |
| slaine | About 300 units shipped to a customer with faulty touchscreen eeproms | 15:12 |
| slaine | have a driver from the supplier that'll let me write to it. | 15:12 |
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| slaine | just writing to validation now | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: heads up btw, next sb2 version (not the one we're entering in -next) will require changes to sdk modes | 15:12 |
| slaine | iekku: I've been listening to DK, DRI, Black Flag, Cro-Mags, Exploted | 15:12 |
| slaine | right now I've got the American Hardcore soundtrack on | 15:13 |
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| iekku | slaine, good ones | 15:13 |
| iekku | slaine, is this familiar to you: http://abokickel.bandcamp.com/ | 15:14 |
| slaine | nope, is it good ? | 15:14 |
| iekku | sure it is | 15:15 |
| iekku | :P | 15:15 |
| slaine | :) | 15:15 |
| iekku | comments welcome | 15:15 |
| * Stskeeps ponders idly where he has heard that voice before.. | 15:15 | |
| slaine | I'll listen to it after this | 15:15 |
| iekku | slaine, :DDD | 15:15 |
| iekku | uups, that was for Stskeeps | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: do you have a timeline for the OBS setup scripts to make it to a publically accessible git? | 15:17 |
| slaine | iekku: enjoying that | 15:17 |
| slaine | lol, it sounds Japanese to me | 15:18 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: sdk modes - OK | 15:18 |
| iekku | haha, it's finnish. but they say it's easy for finns to learn japanese | 15:18 |
| iekku | slaine, that's my band. i'm the "singer"... recorded at our training place so the quality isn't that good | 15:19 |
| slaine | iekku: Yeah, I got that, but at first I was like, hang on, is this Japanese or Finnish. | 15:20 |
| slaine | it's very good | 15:20 |
| slaine | always wanted to be in a hardcore/punk band | 15:20 |
| iekku | oh, thanks :D | 15:21 |
| iekku | so did i, then i decided to have one :P | 15:21 |
| slaine | :) | 15:21 |
| iekku | all the others have played long time and i think all have recorded at least one lp with some punk band | 15:21 |
| * lbt plays some country music.... | 15:22 | |
| iekku | lbt, try g.g. allin | 15:22 |
| iekku | 's country lp | 15:22 |
| iekku | :D | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i think it could be useful for a bunch of people to have easy-setup obs for testing.. including myself :P | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | i have to do some validation of someone else's code soon so | 15:22 |
| lbt | https://github.com/lbt/obs-setup | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | ta | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | Nothing to see here yet. Move along. | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 15:23 |
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| lbt | try againi | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | works | 15:31 |
| lbt | that was quick - took me ages to setup the VMs :) | 15:31 |
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| slaine | lbt, FYI, I had problems with the setupmysql_fe func | 15:40 |
| lbt | slaine: hmm ... I've used it a number of times now | 15:41 |
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| slaine | Was having problems with connecting to the db | 15:41 |
| slaine | I replaced it with the steps detailed on the wiki | 15:42 |
| slaine | and then it worked | 15:42 |
| lbt | I need it to be completely non-interactive | 15:42 |
| slaine | nod | 15:42 |
| lbt | and actually, the code comes from the script in the wiki | 15:42 |
| lbt | the 'secure_mysql' or whatever | 15:42 |
| slaine | yeah | 15:42 |
| lbt | I wonder what the issue was then? | 15:43 |
| slaine | well, I put the SQL back to the wiki, called that secure mysql thing and it was good | 15:43 |
| lbt | how clean was the install | 15:43 |
| slaine | had be installed pre fe | 15:43 |
| lbt | ie could you have had a pw set already ? | 15:43 |
| slaine | No | 15:43 |
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| lbt | any clue what the error was? | 15:43 |
| slaine | fresh install, setup-obs be, setup-obs fe | 15:43 |
| lbt | ah, this was all on one machine wasn't it | 15:44 |
| slaine | yup | 15:46 |
| slaine | be install first, then fe | 15:46 |
| slaine | shouldn't have had a mysql instance though | 15:46 |
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| lbt | ./setup-obs.sh be | 15:48 |
| lbt | also I have updated the scripts now :) | 15:49 |
| slaine | I've had no time today, I'll have another go tomorrow | 15:49 |
| lbt | OK | 15:50 |
| slaine | Installing OpenSuse 11.4 off a class10 SDHC is so much faster than using a usb CDROM | 15:50 |
| lbt | *nod* | 15:50 |
| lbt | I install a really minimal server setup | 15:50 |
| slaine | me too | 15:50 |
| slaine | the lowest one the DVD will let me | 15:51 |
| lbt | the slowest part of my install now is the zypper ref - I make the proxy refuse to cache that | 15:51 |
| lbt | ./setup-obs.sh fe | 15:52 |
| slaine | right, 10 hours non-stop | 15:53 |
| slaine | time to stop | 15:53 |
| lbt | half-day then? | 15:53 |
| slaine | hehe | 15:54 |
| lbt | and it's up... | 15:55 |
| slaine | How are you setting up your OpenSuse install then | 15:55 |
| slaine | is it automated from an image or are you going through the YAST process each time | 15:55 |
| lbt | kiwi --prepare suse-11.4-JeOS --root /vmbase/suse11.4/ --add-profile xenFlavour --add-package iputils --add-package kernel-xen --add-package wget --add-package less --add-package iputils --add-package terminfo --add-package emacs --add-package sudo --add-package rsync | 15:56 |
| lbt | oh, wait - that's for a xen image | 15:56 |
| lbt | kiwi --prepare suse-11.4-JeOS --root $ROOTFS --add-package less --add-package iputils --add-package wget --add-package less --add-package iputils --add-package terminfo --add-package emacs --add-package sudo | 15:56 |
| slaine | ah yes, you're doing vms | 15:57 |
| lbt | then I put that in an LV called 11.4template | 15:57 |
| lbt | then I snapshot it, mount it, change the hostname and stuff (5 lines or so), then start it | 15:57 |
| lbt | takes about 8secs to get a new machine ssh prompt | 15:58 |
| slaine | nice | 15:58 |
| lbt | mainly waiting for pxeboot | 15:58 |
| slaine | takes me about 10mins atm | 15:58 |
| lbt | the objective is to do this as part of CI | 15:58 |
| slaine | I could do with a USB installer for a opens use jeos | 15:58 |
| slaine | right, time to head | 15:59 |
| lbt | ok - g'night | 15:59 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: so i'm wondering how best to trigger a rebuild of all -arm next.. | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | 0.2? | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | though not sure that'd work | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | as it hasn't rebuilt base packages | 16:06 |
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| lbt | hmm | 16:07 |
| lbt | thought about a changelog change | 16:07 |
| lbt | or removing a binary, doing a rebuild and then rpmdiff would think it had changed | 16:07 |
| lbt | in merCI obs | 16:07 |
| lbt | which would incr the BI count | 16:08 |
| lbt | or a shell script | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | i'm pondering just asking -next users to rebuild -f | 16:09 |
| lbt | how did they fail ? | 16:10 |
| lbt | obsadmin rescan? | 16:10 |
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| Stskeeps | 'failed', + exec rpmbuild -ba --define '_srcdefattr (-,root,root)' --target=armv7hl-meego-linux --define 'disturl obs://build.pub.meego.com/CE:UX:MTF/Mer_Core-next_CE_MW_MTF_armv7hl/87ba7c8b803b14b30d174725102ae85d-libquill' ''\''/home/abuild/rpmbuild'\''/SOURCES/libquill.spec' | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | error: failed to stat //'/home/abuild/rpmbuild'/SOURCES/libquill.spec: No such file or directory | 16:11 |
| lbt | so yeah, they'd need a rebuild | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 16:12 |
| lbt | lets do nemo manually to be sure | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:12 |
| lbt | and if that all looks good then we can think about 0.2 or an email | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | 0.2 doesn't have any changes | 16:13 |
| lbt | I'd rather do 0.2 since people don't read ml that much and it'll be sporadic | 16:13 |
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| lbt | I mean force something | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | i can merge removing nss from glibc dependency, that should do the trick.. | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:13 |
| lbt | hehe | 16:13 |
| lbt | I meant a whitespace change | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | not going to work, keep in mind how obs deps work | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | it has to be a central package that modifies which isn't in support:, which is in the dependency chain to trigger a rebuild | 16:14 |
| lbt | and yet not trigger a rebuild of core | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps prjconf change? | 16:17 |
| lbt | wouldn't that trigger core rebuild | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | no, prjconf on MDS.. | 16:17 |
| lbt | I assumed it was tied to core | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | it is, but we can theoretically do a local edit on cobs MDS | 16:18 |
| lbt | but we would change it back on 0.2 | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | it's dirty, but may get the work done | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 16:18 |
| lbt | as it happens I have an obs test setup to hand .... | 16:18 |
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| lbt | *g* | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | well, find out what would cause a rebuild of a failed package | 16:19 |
| lbt | prjconf should rebuild all | 16:19 |
| lbt | do we need to fake an MDS event | 16:19 |
| * Stskeeps contemplates | 16:20 | |
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| Stskeeps | okay, so, how about we just rebuild -f Nemo, Active and i remove nss (as i want tested anyway and away), causing a 0.2 we can use to solve the rest tomorrow? | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | we're going down a rabbit hole else | 16:22 |
| lbt | just checking you want to remove nss on the day before we release | 16:22 |
| lbt | with no other snap or pre-release | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | we're not going to make tomorrow's release | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | simple as that | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | i vote monday-tuesday | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | so another 0.2 and get that tested through, then .1 | 16:23 |
| lbt | OK | 16:23 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm at a risk for not having any internet tomorrow as well, as i switch to a different type of line, so that also factors in | 16:24 |
| lbt | fair enough | 16:24 |
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| Stskeeps | morn Alison_Chaiken | 16:25 |
| lbt | hey Alison_Chaiken | 16:26 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Huomenta, Stskeeps. I'm finally making some progress on installing mer on my Archos tab. | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: woo :) | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: and the progress doesn't involve it 'accidentially' falling from 9th floor? | 16:26 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Hey lbt. So I'll try to put Qt on it. | 16:26 |
| Alison_Chaiken | My collaborator tripzero already built Mer packages at OBS. | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | ah cool | 16:26 |
| Alison_Chaiken | That was supposed to be my job, but he is faster! | 16:27 |
| * lbt looks forward to seeing a project with the HA stuff in it... | 16:27 | |
| Alison_Chaiken | Anyhow, no lack of work for everyone on fun projects. | 16:27 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I really want to make a mer-ivi tablet as a demo unit, with nOBDy and GPS and navit and festival/espeak. | 16:28 |
| Alison_Chaiken | So much ambition, so few accomplishments. | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | sounds feasible, provided festival doesn't require fortran | 16:28 |
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| lbt | festival-lite ? | 16:28 |
| Alison_Chaiken | It will probably take me until September, at the rate I actually work!! | 16:28 |
| Alison_Chaiken | espeak might be easier. Ran on maemo, after all. | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | i took a rather controversial decision to remove gcc-fortran when i discovered it took 40 mins of arm build time | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:29 |
| Alison_Chaiken | First make something fast and crappy, then improve it when you use it and it annoys you. | 16:29 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I still need to figure out where to get cross toolchain for G9 Archos tab. | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | if for mer, our platform sdk includes it | 16:30 |
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| Hexxeh | so if your application does this when starting, it's really bad, right? http://pastebin.com/vYCw9wxT | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | Hexxeh: start with debug symbols | 16:44 |
| Hexxeh | uh, that is a debug build | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | that might just be "in main" | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | sure, with -g and symbols available? | 16:44 |
| Hexxeh | yeah /opt/google/chrome/chrome: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=0x849e7ef70ff411180b12e7743901c714c42c5189, not stripped | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | odd | 16:45 |
| Hexxeh | there's not enough memory on the device to run gdb | 16:45 |
| Hexxeh | so i pulled the core dump off and ran gdb on another machine | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | arm gdb? | 16:46 |
| RaYmAn | considered loads of swap, just to get gdb and stuff working on-device? =P | 16:46 |
| Hexxeh | RaYmAn: i left it for two hours, it was still swapping away trying to load the symbols | 16:46 |
| Hexxeh | but chrome is a 1GB binary when built in debug mode | 16:46 |
| Hexxeh | Stskeeps: yes | 16:46 |
| Hexxeh | armv6zk-softfloat-linux-gnueabi-gdb chrome/chrome core.chrome.1655 | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | hm | 16:47 |
| RaYmAn | ouch, lol | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | webkit-- | 16:47 |
| Hexxeh | midori is webkit based too, is it not? | 16:48 |
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| Stskeeps | Hexxeh: build with -gdwarf-4 | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | that minimizes size a lot | 16:49 |
| Hexxeh | what, and try debugging on the device? | 16:49 |
| Hexxeh | either way, there's only like 200MB of RAM and the binary is 50MB even in release mode | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | not sure, chromeos is a bit of a unknown to me | 16:49 |
| Hexxeh | this is just chrome | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 16:50 |
| Hexxeh | not chromeos | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | gdb , break main, step? :P | 16:50 |
| Hexxeh | on device? | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | or something | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. again with the ram | 16:50 |
| Hexxeh | yep | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | i'm out of ideas right now | 16:50 |
| Hexxeh | runs out of memory just loading symbols | 16:50 |
| Hexxeh | me too :( | 16:50 |
| Hexxeh | gotten to the point where i might just let whoever can figure it out buy my spare pi :P | 16:51 |
| Hexxeh | and skip the queue | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | Hexxeh: gdbserver on device, gdb on host? | 16:51 |
| Hexxeh | i tried that | 16:51 |
| Hexxeh | lots of errors | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | that sounds more weird - incompatible gdbs? | 16:51 |
| Hexxeh | => 0x489428b0: Remote 'g' packet reply is too long | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like the versions are out of sync | 16:52 |
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| Hexxeh | good call | 16:52 |
| Hexxeh | 7.4 and 7.2 | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:53 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: merged nss-less eglibc | 17:06 |
| lbt | ok | 17:06 |
| lbt | just cleaning up outside | 17:06 |
| lbt | what a day ... chiselling out old 'fibre' drain and then hand carving a new fitting :D | 17:07 |
| * Stskeeps is just tired after a long day (since 4am) | 17:16 | |
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| lbt | yeah - I've been tired a lot recently. | 17:16 |
| Stskeeps | at least things are moving forward, which is good | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | a lot of nice QA activity | 17:19 |
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| lbt | yes, that's good to see | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | and good work on the obs setup stuff, it looks really really handy | 17:21 |
| lbt | *nod* ... I need to find time to push some patches upstream too | 17:21 |
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| * Stskeeps needs to put time for making a proposal for devaamo summit | 17:22 | |
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| lbt | me too | 17:23 |
| lbt | I think I may do BOSS actually | 17:23 |
| lbt | it's of interest to Maemo community, Mer, Nemo and hopefully PA too | 17:24 |
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| Stskeeps | 'a short introduction to making BOSS processes' perhaps? | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | to make people see it's really not that difficult (TM) | 17:24 |
| lbt | *nod* ... and I want to extend the vm setup to allow me to deploy boss too | 17:25 |
| lbt | it's odd where the pain points are... | 17:25 |
| lbt | if I use dhcp you need to hack the VM to actually send a dhcp release | 17:26 |
| lbt | you also need dyndns commands in case the VM is hard-killed | 17:26 |
| lbt | but ... OT | 17:26 |
| lbt | so... is that script 'readable' enough to be the basis of docs ? | 17:27 |
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| Stskeeps | didn't check it that deepily but something just occoured to me while i was in the toilet.. can't you make automated 'cloud' worker setups with that too? | 17:31 |
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| lbt | was just submitting a pull request - stripped your sb2 patch for now | 17:48 |
| lbt | and islam's prjlink cleanup | 17:48 |
| lbt | https://github.com/openSUSE/open-build-service/pull/46 | 17:51 |
| lbt | so yes - the main issue with cloud workers is nesting the virtualisation - plus I'd expect the cost of data gets quite high quite quickly | 17:51 |
| lbt | What I bet we *could* do is dynamically repurpose workers to OBSes | 17:51 |
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| * Stskeeps looks at libxcb | 17:59 | |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: is it the feaver or did you just forget to submit the change according to my comment? :) | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: didn't you see my comment? :P | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | Carsten Munk7:46 PM | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | [ --disable-libuuid do not build private uuid library], | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | [ --disable-libblkid do not build private blkid library], | 18:10 |
| Sage | ok, that settles it I'm going to bed | 18:11 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | sleep well :) | 18:12 |
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| thauta_ | does mer have/support the usual pm-suspend and pm-hibernate? | 18:27 |
| _av500_ | i guess that depedns on the hw adaption | 18:29 |
| _av500_ | kernel and such | 18:29 |
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| * thauta_ is a total mer newbie | 18:30 | |
| thauta_ | what i would like achieve is a x86 ivi with intel graphics | 18:31 |
| thauta_ | that is also able to hibernate | 18:31 |
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| Stskeeps | thauta_: we have pm-utils, yes | 18:31 |
| thauta_ | nice | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | thauta_: what kind of hardware do you have? | 18:32 |
| thauta_ | i see that you have a generic x86 adaptation | 18:32 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, nemo has (mer doesn't contain hw adaptations) | 18:32 |
| Alison_Chaiken | _av500_ , for Archos use toolchain from didj? | 18:33 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Or is there a better source? | 18:33 |
| _av500_ | didj? | 18:33 |
| Alison_Chaiken | http://elinux.org/Didj_Build_Environment | 18:33 |
| _av500_ | use whatever you like | 18:33 |
| _av500_ | never heard of didj | 18:34 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I guess buildroot has a toolchain somewhere too? | 18:34 |
| _av500_ | linaro is deemed good | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: for kernel or for userland? | 18:34 |
| _av500_ | yes, our buildroot builds a toolchain | 18:34 |
| thauta_ | Stskeeps: http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?model=h61m-vs + a recent celeron with intel hd graphics core | 18:34 |
| _av500_ | but its bah ancient | 18:34 |
| _av500_ | 4.4.1 or so | 18:34 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Stskeeps, eventually I will need both. | 18:34 |
| _av500_ | Alison_Chaiken: ask the plasma guys what they are using | 18:35 |
| _av500_ | but since they use mer, ask Stskeeps | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | thauta_: the celeron has SSSE3? | 18:35 |
| thauta_ | Stskeeps: i think so yeah http://ark.intel.com/products/53416/Intel-Celeron-Processor-G540-%282M-Cache-2_50-GHz%29 | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | thauta_: start out by trying to boot a Nemo image | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | thauta_: also, that page doesn't say SSSE3 | 18:36 |
| thauta_ | give me a sec, ill boot and check that | 18:36 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Stskeeps knows everything, even gives advice about Windows and now furniture purchases. | 18:37 |
| Alison_Chaiken | _av500_, the aos-repack from aos-tools will created an unsigned init image that G9 is going to boot? | 18:38 |
| _av500_ | forget repack | 18:38 |
| _av500_ | that is gen9 | 18:39 |
| _av500_ | er, gen8 | 18:39 |
| _av500_ | or at least ask dm8tbr | 18:39 |
| Alison_Chaiken | What tool to create .aos archive then? | 18:39 |
| Alison_Chaiken | That's the only format that is accepted, no? | 18:39 |
| _av500_ | Alison_Chaiken: no | 18:39 |
| Alison_Chaiken | .img and .iso will not work? | 18:39 |
| _av500_ | sde take a zimage and a initramfs | 18:39 |
| _av500_ | you cannot make an aos since its signed | 18:40 |
| Alison_Chaiken | What about userland? Put on disk with dd and hope for the best? | 18:40 |
| _av500_ | put it on disk with cp | 18:40 |
| Alison_Chaiken | _av500_, that's too simple for me. | 18:40 |
| _av500_ | i propose you install SDE and boot into recovery and explore the sde menu | 18:40 |
| thauta_ | Stskeeps: it has it + ssse4.1 and ssse4.2 | 18:40 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I never considered that option! | 18:40 |
| Alison_Chaiken | _av500_, I did explore the menu, but it ain't like there's instructions about how to put userland, just kernel. | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | thauta_: OK, then boot a nemo image as a start | 18:41 |
| _av500_ | Alison_Chaiken: yes, but userland is where you want it to be | 18:41 |
| _av500_ | didnt i send you the plasma instructions? | 18:42 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Very good, I will just loopback-mount the new userland and copy it. | 18:42 |
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| thauta_ | Stskeeps: alrighty, doing that | 18:42 |
| Alison_Chaiken | _av500_, you sent me the download link, but no instructions. | 18:42 |
| _av500_ | ah | 18:42 |
| _av500_ | sec, will do | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | rsync -aHx, we're a bit picky about suid bits | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:42 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I've learned so much by reading websites about abandoned A5 projects in the interim ;-) | 18:43 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Stskeeps, which toolchain shall I grab for arm-linux-uclibcgnueabi-gcc? | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: who's making you use uclibc? :) | 18:44 |
| _av500_ | me | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | ah, ok | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know, for once | 18:45 |
| _av500_ | our frankendroid is a mix of android and uslibc | 18:45 |
| _av500_ | uclibc | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | one of these days you have to tell me what you smoke in your offices | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:46 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Stskeeps, if you don't love uclibc, you may not be an embedded developer. | 18:47 |
| _av500_ | +1 | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: i'm in the sweet spot between embedded and netbooks ;) | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | i like uclibc, though | 18:47 |
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| vgrade | CosmoHill, hi, hows the job | 18:57 |
| CosmoHill | hi vgrade | 18:58 |
| CosmoHill | I'm setterling down and today has gone well even tho I've been on my own | 18:58 |
| CosmoHill | everyone there is friendly :) | 18:58 |
| Alison_Chaiken | CosmoHill, where you at? I'll be mentor-ivi starting 4/30. | 19:00 |
| CosmoHill | oo, what;'s that? | 19:00 |
| CosmoHill | you mean the 30th of april, right? | 19:00 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | "anywhere in North America" unfortunately. There's still a "senior IVI architect" opening AFAIK, not to spam the channel. | 19:01 |
| CosmoHill | this is a small gun shop in the UK | 19:01 |
| CosmoHill | they do their websites in house | 19:01 |
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| thauta_ | Stskeeps: got it to boot but cant find xterm as mentioned here http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#i586_.28e.g..2C_Lenovo_Ideapad.2C_ExoPC.29 | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | thauta_: swipe to the left on the menu? | 19:09 |
| thauta_ | what menu? | 19:09 |
| thauta_ | by pressing the "four boxes" button i get some icons to show up on the desktop | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | ok, that's the launcher menu | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | now hold mouse left button down and make a left motion | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | or just ctrl-alt-f2 if you're boring | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:10 |
| thauta_ | my touch screen is not connected, using with a 24" =) | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | ctrl-alt-f2 then | 19:11 |
| thauta_ | oh | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | root/nemo | 19:11 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill, good to hear that | 19:12 |
| CosmoHill | will be interesting to see what it does to my mpg since my car has only been used for local travel before | 19:13 |
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| thauta_ | Stskeeps: it boots, whee! | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | thauta_: woo | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | thauta_: you should at this point get mer platform sdk | 19:21 |
| thauta_ | how do i configure net? | 19:21 |
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| Stskeeps | the image is a bit handset oriented so it doesn't enable ethernet out of the box | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | when you do your own image you easily can though | 19:24 |
| thauta_ | so i need to build my own image with sdk? | 19:24 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | it's not very difficult | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | just install mer platform sdk according to http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 19:35 |
| thauta_ | ok thanks, gotta continue tomorrow | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | yep, going here too | 19:38 |
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| edk | hello | 20:41 |
| edk | just installed nemo latest image on my nokia n900, when i start packages, and want to refreshing cache, it looks likt it is stuck in this app, keeps saying "Refreshing cache"; rotating icon, nothing happens | 20:42 |
| edk | i also tried rebooting but problem not solved yet | 20:43 |
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| edk | hi | 22:28 |
| edk | anyone here ? | 22:28 |
| edk | I think in Nemo on my n900 wifi is stuck somehow | 22:29 |
| edk | i have lan ip, but can not communicate on lan network | 22:29 |
| edk | no ping replies from gateway or other hosts | 22:29 |
| edk | wifi just does not seems to work, although I have connection with AP (wpa psk) | 22:30 |
| edk | help would be appreciated | 22:30 |
| edk | or tips | 22:30 |
| edk | i use nemo image from april 5th 2012 | 22:30 |
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| edk | hello anyone aliv ehere ? | 22:36 |
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