Thursday, 2012-04-12

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Macervgrade: hey.. sorry i've been out of it for a while... but i am ready to get back to work on getting mer/active going on this transformer if you have time tomorrow05:19
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MacerLinux has also been ported to itself. You can now run the kernel as a userspace application - this is called UserMode Linux (UML).05:31
Stskeepsmorn E-P, l3i, iekku05:34
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ZiQiangHuan_av500_: Now I know I have to deal with the codec_data after qtdemux with mp4, and I need to extract PPS and SPS from it and package it as GstBuffer, any simple examples with gstreamer for this I can follow?06:55
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Stskeeps seems to list some06:59
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: thank you for the link, but I don't know how to transform structure GstH264SPS to GstBuffer07:05
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StskeepsZiQiangHuan: i'm a bit out of my area here, so i wouldn't know, sorry07:07
Sagedm8tbr: got the kernel output out from the nexus, it was ttyFIQ0 :)07:08
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: that's Ok, thank you all the same07:08
dm8tbr\o/ and d*oh07:08
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Sagehad to enable some kernel options for FIQ_DEBUGGER though as well07:10
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* Sage ponders what should the ramdisk loading look like in there07:14
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Stskeepsmorn slaine o/ hope you had a good easters07:14
slaineMorning Stskeeps07:15
slaineI sure did, hope you did too07:15
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slaineback to the grind today07:15
slainehappy to see that my OBS rebuild worked, while I was off07:15
Sagedm8tbr: ever partitioned internal sd card memory in android?07:18
Sagewould want to make new parition where I could just push my mer installation instead of toying around with ramdisk07:18
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Stskeepsdon't you have an external sd slot?07:23
Bostikoh man, I did not expect to run into freak problems with sb2 but apparently doing webkit build iterations with it can hit 32-bit memory cap at linking (should be able to work around with some linker flags..)07:27
sonachslaine: hi, nice to see you:) You have told me that you setup 3 OpenSUSE VMs: worker, backend and frontend. But on, I only find two iso: obs-worker.x86_64 and obs-server.x86_64.07:28
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slainesonach, you should be following lbt's guide07:29
slaineall the repo's required are listed there07:29
sonachslaine: ah, OK,07:29
Sage <- how to list partition table on android device, anyone?07:30
sonachslaine: another problem, why did you choose Fedora to run MerDS? Is there any considerations?07:30
dm8tbrSage: sorry no07:30
slainesonach: That was my old guide, I said just to read it on how to setup the phost07:31
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slaineI use Fedora as my preferred distro, the same steps would work on an alternative system with appropriate yum / package name replacements07:32
sonachslaine: OK:)07:32
slaineIn fact, for my current setup, I have MDS running off the same server as the frontend/backend as a standard service, so it's setup on OpenSuse 11.407:32
sonachslaine: I don't understand...07:33
sonachslaine: what does this mean: "MDS running off the same server as the frontend/backend"?07:34
slaineMDS == MerDS07:34
slaineIf you recall from last week, I now have 2 physical servers, 1 low end, 1 high end07:35
Sage o_007:35
slainelow end is running OBS Frontend, Backend and MDS07:35
slainehigh end is running OBS Worker07:35
* Sage scratches his head07:35
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slaineBoth servers are x86_64 and running OpenSuse 11.407:36
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sonachslaine: low end Server running 3 VMs, MerDS,frontend and backend? Or MerDS/frontend/backend just runs on physical host?07:37
slaineNo, I don't use VM's anymore07:38
slaineJust running off the physical host07:38
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sonachslaine: ... Last week, you said that you use several VMs... So Now you change your setup and just install OpenSUSE11.4 on the physical server?07:39
slaineNo, last week I said I used to use several VM's, but I moved away from that setup07:39
sonachslaine: sorry for not reading your infomation carefully:(07:40
slaineiirc, you had 1 server and wanted to setup multiple VM's, and had queries to how to go about it07:40
slainemy suggestion was to read my OBS VM Setup guide to understand how to setup the physical host and the VM's and follow lbt's OBS Setup guide for actually setting up the installed VM's to be frontend or backend or worker etc.07:41
sonachslaine: OK. but what do you mean by "intalled VMs"? On lbt's guild, it is just 'zypper install', nothing related to VMs...07:43
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StskeepsBostik: check my patches to qtwebkit in mer git07:44
slaineBy installed VM's I mean the VM's that you have installed on your physical server07:44
Stskeepsvery useful for lower memory usage07:44
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sonachslaine: I think I understand it. Since using VMs will be more scalable, why do you discard this method and just install all the things on the physical server?07:46
slainesonach, I would question the effectiveness of scaling the VM setup07:47
Stskeepsmigration might be a better keyword07:47
Stskeepsie, moving them07:48
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slaineyou have to move them to a better machine to benefit from performance improvements07:48
slaineand they're heavily tied to the local machine when using native LVM partitions07:49
slaineYou could use disk images on the phost, but using native LVM partitions is advisable from a performance perspective07:49
sonachslaine: hmm. If I don't need to migrate them, Maybe installing all the stuff on the physical is a better choice?07:50
slainesonach, I can't make that choice for you07:50
slaineyou have to determine your own requirements07:50
slaineI've a team of about 10 people that'll be using this setup, so I won't have to scale much beyond that from a requirements perspective07:50
sonachslaine: OK. thank you for your advice. I just want to understand prons and cons of different setups:)07:51
slaineand the beauty of OBS is that I can simply add more OBS Worker machines into the existing setup as I need07:51
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sonachslaine: hmm, you got knowledge from your experiences:)07:52
sonachslaine: thank you very much for detailed information!07:53
sonachI will try it next week.07:53
slainesonach, well, Stskeeps and lbt got knowledge from theirs, passed some to me and I experimented and gained my own understanding of what would work and wouldn't work for my needs07:54
slaineI suggest you try the same07:54
sonachslaine: OK. that's it!07:55
slaineand I'm still only at the beginning of my journey07:56
slainenext I've to pull in some existing Hardware Adaptation projects, like Nemo, and get those building internally, get the Platform SDK to generate an image from the internal repo's and then I'll be happy07:57
sonachslaine: hmm, Now I do the  image generation stuff all from my internal repo, although I copy the hardware drivers into the meego rootfs by hand:(07:59
slaineyeah, I want to automate that all via the OBS repo08:00
sonachcool. this is my plan too. I don't want to copy things by hand any more!08:00
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slainesonach: in theory it's just a case of creating a hardware adaptation project for your target device, and create the appropriate packages in that project08:02
slainein theory :)08:02
iekkuwhen the qa meeting is? (finnish time)08:03
Macerpoor rose08:04
Macergot mieka blackman knocked up08:04
Macerthought he was smarter than that08:05
sonachStskeeps: I think I can just copy the MerDS from my old server to the new server and just do 'make update'. Is that right?08:06
slainesonach: I've done something like that too08:06
sonachslaine: OK, that's good!08:06
slaineyou just have to make sure that you have all the python packages and git etc. installed08:06
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vgradeMacer, bit busy at the moment, may have time at the weekend08:45
Stskeepsvgrade: interesting08:46
Stskeepsiekku: I propose the next QA meeting to take place in #mer-meeting on08:47
StskeepsThursday 12 April at 12:00 UTC.08:47
Stskeepsiekku: so plus 3 hours08:47
Stskeeps= finnish time08:47
Stskeepsi think..08:47
lbtmorning all08:48
Stskeepsmorn lbt08:48
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Stskeepslbt: managed to catch sb2 build stall in action08:49
Stskeepsyes, i sent logs upstream08:49
lbtwell, after some wireshark digging and much frustration I got my VM + proxy creation mainly sorted late last night08:50
E-PStskeeps, iekku: that right, at 15 finnish time08:50
iekkuthanks :D08:51
iekkui will add that to my calendar now so i don't need to ask it every week again :)08:51
E-Pwe haven't any static meeting time at the moment08:51
X-Fadelbt: ping?08:52
iekkuoh, ok then08:53
X-FadeIt seems the get_provides participant was stuck on cobs' BOSS.08:53
X-FadeThere is a huge list of stuck processes now.08:53
X-FadeI reloaded the participant and reapplied one to test, that made it go again.08:54
lbtwas it lost from the participant list?08:54
X-FadeIt was running, but not really.08:54
X-FadeI guess it is a side effect from the out of disk situation.08:55
lbtit doesn't look registered08:55
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X-FadeSomething happened to it on 2012/04/06 at least.08:55
lbtthe registration list is a dispatch table08:55
lbtand I think it is missing08:55
lbtso ruote won't send it to amqp08:56
X-FadeI had some apps related participants do the same thing.08:56
lbta simple 'skynet register' should fix it08:56
X-FadeWell, try it out on get_provides :)08:57
lbtjust did - it's in the list now08:57
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X-Fadelbt: Now you only need to reply all processes with name=BOSS_update_patterns :)09:00
X-FadeOnly 700 or so..09:01
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X-Fadelbt: Hmm why is boss-daemon.rb spinning at 100% cpu :)09:03
lbtI did just do a lot of re-applies09:04
Bostikoooo yeah, qt5 repos sport qt-5.0.0-alpha1 tags :D09:05
StskeepsBostik: -Wl,--no-keep-memory and -gdwarf-4 helps a lot on qtwebkit memory usage09:05
Stskeepswhen we're on tmpfs builds no-keep-memory is usually better09:06
lbtX-Fade: it seems to be cycling09:06
BostikStskeeps: aye, took a look at your patches and --no-keep-memory is applied on ubuntu, dwarf-4 seems to be our speciality so far09:06
X-Fadelbt: current log is scrolling like mad.09:06
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lbtyeah, watching09:07
lbtcan't decide if it's pausing for work or just logrotate=ing09:07
lbtlatter I  think09:07
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X-Fadelbt: I think I found the problem.09:15
Stskeepslbt: where do we currently keep tools that may have to be installed onto devices?09:15
X-Fadelbt: strace -p 1462409:15
lbtStskeeps: should point you to Mer:Tools
X-Fadelbt: supervise: fatal: unable to acquire boss/supervise/lock: temporary failure?supervise: fatal: unable to acquire boss-viewer/supervise/lock: temporary failure?09:18
lbtah.... I didn't see that09:18
X-Fadelbt: And the strace reveals: open("/var/spool/boss/boss_ruote_db/msgs/49/31389!70220126300600!2012-04-12!1334221140.841058!149.json", O_RDWR) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)09:18
X-FadeIt is looking for messages that afaik are not there.09:18
lbtroot owned09:19
X-FadeAh wait, they are.09:19
X-FadeRoot owned yeah.09:19
lbtI wonder if runnin reapply as root is breaking it09:21
X-FadeOr that the processes didn't switch user correctly.09:21
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lbtthose msgs are gone now09:21
lbtand it's running the processes09:22
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Macervgrade: sure no problem09:26
Macerif ou do find time just let me know. i should be home all weekend09:26
Macerbut for the most part i am all set up to try to figure out how to get mer on this thing ;)09:27
X-Fadelbt: it did run the BOSS_update_patterns once, but they are still stuck.09:27
Maceralthough i think currently the kernel for the transformer provided by asus is broken.. but it's nvidia tegra so i'm sure you can just build one but who knows09:27
Maceri am sure typical things like the gps and cams will probably be impossible :-/09:27
Macerbut hopefully the cpu/gpu/wifi will all work09:27
Macerthe transformer flashing stuff seems similar to that of the n900 where it is near impossible to brick it09:28
Macersince i doubt the transformer allows you to touch the flashing part of it09:28
Macerprobably located on some rom somewhere?09:28
Maceri mean actual rom.. not android "rom"09:29
lbtX-Fade: I'm letting it settle - #processes is going down09:29
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X-Fadelbt: hmm indeed, didn't notice that ;)09:31
lbtyep, they do go ... I just watched one vanish09:32
lbtI think it's just taking time to iterate09:33
lbtgreat catch btw...09:33
X-Fadestrace is a great tool :)09:33
lbtI rarely think to use it on running processes09:34
lbtonly when they crash :)09:34
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X-FadeYeah, I was wondering wtf it was doing.09:34
Macerrun strace on everything :)09:35
Macerthat's sick09:35
lbt*g* ... not firefxox...09:35
Macerfirefox will crash strace :-P09:35
lbtX-Fade: so I should put a warning in ./reapply09:35
X-Fadelbt: it should sudo?09:36
lbtwhat's the shell trick to exec sudo itself09:36
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_av500_ZiQiangHuan: sorry, gst is not my area of expertise09:43
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ZiQiangHuan_av500_: ok, I just try to solve it two days, seems not make it work for me.09:53
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slaineAnyone using a Pandaboard ES >10:39
slainevgrade, You used used one ?10:45
Stskeepssage had done non-ES pandaboard at least10:46
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slaineJust got work to order one as a dev board10:50
slaineit's more inline with the kind of hardware we're looking for in an arm device10:50
Stskeepsmakes sense10:50
slaineover say the Cortex A8 based boards10:51
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slaineI'll try and get an x86 and armv7hl bring up on the devices I do have here in the mean time10:51
Stskeepsmakes sense10:52
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vgradeslaine, only have the older model here11:02
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Stskeepstimoph: taking a swing at eat11:15
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timophStskeeps: show it who's the boss ;)11:16
Stskeepsi'm going to regress functionality a bit (syslog) at first11:17
Stskeepsas that's significantly different in systemd11:17
Stskeepstimoph: what was the conclusion yesterday, did testrunner support pointing to a ssh key?11:22
Stskeeps / config11:22
timophit supports pointing to it now11:24
timophdunno if sampos was planning to add the config file support11:24
timophsampos: ^11:24
Stskeepsnot sure if it's needed, but just keeping in mind as i refactor a bit11:24
l3iStskeeps: What kind of refactoring will you be doing?11:26
Stskeepsl3i: just a proposal to make it fit a little better into how mer bootup is usually done / less hackish, as related to
Stskeepsso we don't do evil things like echo'ing to /root in post, etc11:28
Stskeepsas well as systemd integration11:28
Stskeepsmostly on packaging level, fwiw11:29
l3iStskeeps: Ok, I did read that email. Just haven't looked very deep into how eat actually has been implemented. And wasn't aware of the use of systemd in mer context until now either11:30
Stskeeps:nod: we've been systemd users since day one11:31
Stskeepsas we're derived from meego 1.311:31
l3iStskeeps: Ah :) Well, haven't actually looked much into meego 1.3 either to be honest..11:32
Stskeepshehe, not many have11:32
Stskeepsbut it was a quite nice improvement upon meego 1.2 :)11:32
Stskeepstimoph: i'm glancing at the ifarch %{arm} for eat-dns eat-env and dbus config11:32
Stskeepstimoph: is that meant as 'oh this goes on target'?11:32
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timophStskeeps: iirc yes11:36
Stskeepseat-env makes sure the test login gets same environment as session, correct?11:43
Stskeepssorry for all the stupid questions :)11:43
Stskeepsand the dbus config does what?11:44
timophconfigures dbus for root11:44
timophsince we're connecting as root11:44
timophand the env through ssh was a bit different anyway11:44
* Stskeeps ponders how that would look in ideal case11:46
E-Preminder: Mer QA meeting in 15min at #mer-meeting11:46
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E-Pthe SSH environment has been always a problem11:47
Stskeepsso ideally you'd like some way to jump into the X session's environment?11:47
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timophyeah. I think we did xhost+ at somepoint :)11:48
Stskeepsthe way the intel guys did it was to launch a screen session from within x, for ssh'ing in11:50
Stskeepsi think11:50
Stskeepsnot for QA but for development11:50
Stskeepswe can't rely in mer on mcompositor (as an example) being there, so11:50
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timopheasier way would be to do "su - mer" etc. in the test11:51
E-Pfor example tdriver has a agent which is launched in the x session, and all commands are executed via the agent11:51
timophor actually "su - mer -c something"11:52
E-Preally depends how we want to execute tests, as root or as user11:52
E-Pand what we need to test11:52
* timoph having yet another dejavu :)11:52
timophyep. that's why it makes sense to connect as root11:52
timophor add some mechanism the define in the test what user to use11:53
timophto def11:53
timophI think we had this discussion in meego context but at the time..11:53
timophyou know11:53
E-Pthat would be better11:54
timophso that would require changes to test definition and tr-lite11:54
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E-Pbut do we still have a problem with the SSH environment?11:54
timophI'd guess so11:55
timophwe should test that11:55
Stskeepsso, what i would propose, is that we place a /etc/xdg/autostart item which exports the environment for us to a file we can access through test cases11:55
Stskeepsie, ssh in, su into user, clear environment variables, load that file11:55
timophsounds good11:55
timophand simple11:55
* timoph likes11:56
timophand since we're now using libssh2 with tr-lite each test step, etc. isn't it's own session11:56
E-Pand those tests that require root access, I think they might not require all the environment variables11:57
StskeepsREMINDER: Mer QA meeting in 3 minutes in #mer-meeting11:57
* timoph goes for a quick breath of fresh air before that11:58
samposthis ol' bug is related to env
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timophsampos: yeah. that's the thing12:05
timoph(giving me flash backs)12:05
samposwith shivers? :)12:06
timophwe're in a better position now the actually get some changes done12:07
timophno need to argue with that many people :)12:07
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Sageslaine: I have non-ES Panda and it works. The ES one should work as well with some modifications (updating couple of packages)12:08
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X-FadeSage: Planning important build today on cobs?12:16
X-FadeSage: I've got an update to the harmattan project waiting, so if I enable that it will trigger quite some rebuilds.12:17
SageX-Fade: go ahead. I already build images for today12:18
X-FadeSage: Ok, thanks.12:19
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Maceranybody know where the fengoffice # is?12:31
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slaineStskeeps: I'm actually having some problems with the armv8el build13:19
slaineall the packages seemed to import but they're blocked13:19
slainecross-armv7hl-gcc doesn't seem to be resolved13:19
slainesame for sb2-tools-armv7hl13:20
Stskeepsslaine: hmm13:20
Stskeepsslaine: can we look at it tomorrow? i'm not at my desk for some hours13:20
slainethe project meta data is here, if that's ok, we'll look at it tomorrow13:22
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* lbt pushes yet another obs version13:25
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lbtslaine: I've fixed the ipaccess issue now13:25
slainelbt, Which one was that ?13:26
lbtseems to have been closed - turns out it shouldn't have been :)13:28
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slainewas it closed by me ?13:29
lbtnot sure, could have been me - I applied your patch anyhow13:29
slaineI've a vague recollection of revisiting the bugzilla entries after running through the last round of test installs13:29
lbtthen had to hack it a bit13:29
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slainelbt, this look ok for an armv8el project,
lbtyou're not publishing?13:47
lbtand is this to rebuild Mer Core?13:48
slaineto rebuild13:51
slainei586 seemed to work find13:51
slainefine even13:51
slaine335 packages succeeded13:52
slaine334 blocked for armv8el project13:52
slainecross-armv7hl-gcc is unresolvable13:53
slainejust wondering if I've setup the i586 repo setting properly for the armv8el13:53
KaadlajkE-P: had to leave before the meeting was done. Just ping me when you get something written about the maemo CI and I can help then14:10
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lbtslaine: oop - missed your messages14:17
slainelbt, no worries14:18
slaineI've found an i14:18
slainean opens use how to that might answer it14:18
slainedamn autocorrect14:18
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_av500_Stskeeps: so, I have "Vacation planning" on my G9 :)15:13
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* alterego considers buying stock in Nokia15:15
Aardwait until you can buy the company15:17
_av500_buy stocks in Nokian15:20
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Stskeeps_av500_: cool, with official SDE?17:32
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_av500_Stskeeps: yes17:39
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Stskeepscongrats :)17:39
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alteregoDo we have any qt5 builds for mer yet? :)18:04
trip0good question!18:07
trip0is qt5 packaged?18:07
Stskeepswe have it in review atm18:10
Stskeepson gerrit18:10
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notmarti am trying to create an image on armv7hl, and i get this error:
notmartseems the zypper package is corrupted for that architecture?18:22
* Stskeeps looks18:22
Stskeepsyou're using mer platform sdk i presume?18:22
Stskeepsok, try and clean your package cache and try again18:23
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notmarttried to delete the single package, will try to delete everything18:23
notmartjust removing /var/tmp/mic/cache/mer-core/packages/ right?18:23
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notmartok, relaunched the image build, let's see18:24
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notmartStskeeps: yep, redownloaded everything, same error :/18:37
Stskeepsnotmart: OK, show me your .ks18:37
Stskeepsthis is probably a silly question, but are you out of disk space?18:39
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Stskeepsnotmart: you're right, something is awry there18:42
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notmartnono, disk space is ok18:42
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Stskeepsnotmart: that's a bug on our side, can you file a bug please? cpio: premature end of file18:45
Stskeepson my side18:45
notmartStskeeps:, let me know if you need more info18:50
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vgradeinstalls qt-onpi with an eye on tips for Mer/QtCreator integration18:54
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