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| Stskeeps | morn | 04:42 |
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| E-P | morning | 05:21 |
| Kaadlajk | mrnng | 05:23 |
| * Stskeeps starts out the day with a scratchbox2 upgrade | 05:24 | |
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| Stskeeps | morn Alison_Chaiken, how is it going? | 05:38 |
| dm8tbr | moaning | 05:41 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Hey Stskeeps, had a major panic over failing demo this afternoon. | 05:42 |
| Alison_Chaiken | It's my first *paid* demo ever, and I had borked it in a novel way, of course. | 05:42 |
| timoph | :) | 05:42 |
| * timoph knows the feeling | 05:43 | |
| Alison_Chaiken | However, I cleverly fooled Murphy by travelling to worksite the *day before* my 3 one-hour presentations. | 05:43 |
| Alison_Chaiken | And now . . . I'd better not say, but things are much much better. | 05:43 |
| timoph | knock wood | 05:43 |
| Alison_Chaiken | One more bout of ritual chanting before I go to bed. | 05:43 |
| * Stskeeps crosses fingers | 05:44 | |
| Alison_Chaiken | And perhaps I can trap a hotel worker to perform a human sacrifice. | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | i find furry animals work better, and they're in better supply | 05:44 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I'm in Los Angeles, so maybe some big cockroaches. | 05:44 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Truth is, I have a recording of the demo, so I could have used them. | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, always have a plan B | 05:45 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Who knows, maybe audiences prefer YouTube to seeing a human turn knobs anyway. | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | attention span, yeah | 05:46 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I feel less like a failure having gotten it to work, even if no one cares but me. | 05:46 |
| Stskeeps | i am still astonished how long people believed that the tablet ux demo (pre release) from far back from intel was actually flash ;) | 05:46 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Having something work on Sunday and not tomorrow would really feel humiliating! | 05:46 |
| Stskeeps | er, that it was actually real, and not flash, that is | 05:46 |
| Alison_Chaiken | No kidding. I saw lots of websites said it was flash. | 05:47 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Sometimes you have to feel sorry for Intel. | 05:47 |
| Stskeeps | just like computer science research.. solution presented in paper.. doesn't exist anywhere else, 'paperware' :) | 05:48 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I hope there Atom tablets are a success. And Tizen too, although once I survive this trip, I will play with Archos tablet for a while with Mer. | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | they're going a 'ok' direction with tizen ivi at least | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | tizen handset i wouldn't touch with a 10 feet pole | 05:48 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Yeah, I like Tizen-IVI, although I've decided to go to work with Mentor IVI for next job instead. | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:49 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Mentor is distro-agnostic, so potentially we could recommend Mer to customer . . . and use Qt. | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | interestingily enough tizen ivi utilizes qt | 05:49 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Plus I get to work with smart Code Sourcery guys: should be great. | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | and linaro participants.. | 05:49 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Stskeeps, not sure how much I know about Tizen-IVI is public, so um, yeah. | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: https://download.tizen.org | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | -> preview, ivi, so, that's considered public in my eyes :P | 05:50 |
| Alison_Chaiken | When Vivaldi tablet is a big success, perhaps IVI customers will be interested in Mer. | 05:50 |
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| Stskeeps | perhaps, yeah - makes for a nice kit | 05:51 |
| Stskeeps | we'll see | 05:51 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Here's a wonderful interview with Aaron Seigo about Vivaldi and Mer, in case anyone missed it: | 05:52 |
| Alison_Chaiken | http://frostbitemedia.org/node/54?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+frostcast+%28Frostcast+%29&utm_content=FeedBurner | 05:52 |
| * Stskeeps grabs | 05:52 | |
| Alison_Chaiken | From 2/20, but full of great discussion. | 05:52 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Jonathan Nadeau is awesome: a blind user of Linux! | 05:53 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Editing audio using orca, I guess. | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | one of my buried projects is a UX for the blind on top of meego/mer | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | as it's a great platform for working with that on top of | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | and experimented | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | maybe i'll get back to that soem day | 05:54 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Ruben Rodriguez of Trisquel has made an installer that's easy for blind users and keeps out of the way of sighted ones. | 05:56 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Any distro could use it. It's obvious stuff: goes to blind interface if user doesn't select a language after 5 minutes, or somesuch. | 05:56 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Ctrl-C out of installer if this happens by mistake. | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | makes sense | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | time to start today's work - good luck with the demo Alison_Chaiken ! | 05:59 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Good luck with today's work, Stskeeps. | 05:59 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: what was the thing blocking qtcreator with the sdk working properly? | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: sysroot settings | 06:00 |
| timoph | with the cross targets | 06:00 |
| timoph | ah | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | we need to pass --sysroot= to the gcc | 06:00 |
| timoph | so we might need to patch qtcreator | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | possibly, or ask someone if it can be done | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | it seems like a too big oversight | 06:00 |
| timoph | I'd think they'd accept such a contribution upstream | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: is there anything i can help with to move eat along? | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | like, blockers | 06:02 |
| timoph | it just needs to be done :) | 06:02 |
| timoph | there's nothing complicated in it | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so systemd services etc? | 06:02 |
| timoph | basically packaging ssh-keys is a great start | 06:02 |
| timoph | I think we don't need them | 06:03 |
| timoph | if we drop the selftest | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | selftest? | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | ok, where do i find 'eat' in community obs atm? | 06:03 |
| timoph | it had this experimental feature that it run all the tests it found after boot | 06:04 |
| timoph | on the device itself | 06:04 |
| timoph | I was never really happy about the solution | 06:04 |
| timoph | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=eat&project=Project%3ATools%3ATesting | 06:05 |
| timoph | that seems to be the original meego version | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 06:05 |
| timoph | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=eat&project=home%3Atimoph | 06:06 |
| timoph | iirc the one in my home project is slightly modified | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | so, i think a reasonable goal is that we can make images containing tests and eat, and be able to run testrunner from sdk against it | 06:07 |
| timoph | anyway, the key thing is to provide passwordless access for tr-lite to the dut | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | :nod; | 06:07 |
| timoph | yeah | 06:07 |
| timoph | and set the environment so that we get sane test results | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | i'm wondering how much of this we could put in the .ks if needed | 06:09 |
| timoph | most of it, maybe all | 06:10 |
| timoph | except the host part | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | host part contains keys, right? | 06:10 |
| timoph | both have keys | 06:10 |
| timoph | well. the device part has the public key | 06:11 |
| timoph | and host both private and public | 06:11 |
| timoph | need to go for a while. brb | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | k | 06:12 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: %post.. is that before or after user creation? | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | in .ks | 06:16 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: what user creation and why? | 06:35 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: root / standard user account, if it's created at %post | 06:36 |
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| Stskeeps | like, before %post scripts are run | 06:38 |
| Sage | %post in rpm or .ks ? :D | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | .ks | 06:39 |
| Sage | they should be done before that yes | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | why == looking into test enablers | 06:39 |
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| Stskeeps | wb | 06:43 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: writing a discussion post for how we could do test enablers in a mer fashion | 06:43 |
| timoph | actually the .ks way might be easier the maintain with one drawback | 06:43 |
| timoph | you can't put the enablers on an existing image | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | that's true | 06:44 |
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| Sage | also enables might get destroyed on updates | 06:45 |
| * Sage has no idea what kind of things those are | 06:45 | |
| Stskeeps | timoph: i was thinking to limit %post to a /usr/lib/install-eat-keys | 06:45 |
| Stskeeps | rest is kosher to enable | 06:45 |
| Stskeeps | as a packge | 06:45 |
| timoph | true | 06:45 |
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| * timoph looks how it was done earlier | 06:46 | |
| pirut | morn | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | morn pirut | 06:47 |
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| timoph | yeah. the device side is put directly to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys | 06:47 |
| timoph | and the installkeys thing is installed to the host machine | 06:48 |
| timoph | since we don't know was user is used to run tr-lite, etc. | 06:48 |
| timoph | so we left that to the user | 06:48 |
| timoph | so one has to explicitly enable the keys in the host machine | 06:48 |
| Stskeeps | makes sense | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | we can do that in sdk somehow, perhaps | 06:49 |
| Kaadlajk | tr-lite has parameter for sshkey location so that should be used | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | is there a term for the 'host', btw? | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | like there's DUT | 06:49 |
| timoph | hmmh | 06:49 |
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| timoph | I've seen "test control pc" used but that's really not a good term either | 06:50 |
| timoph | even though that is more clear | 06:51 |
| Kaadlajk | with OTS it was worker PC | 06:51 |
| Kaadlajk | not that clear | 06:51 |
| timoph | yep | 06:51 |
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| timoph | so I'd say we can call it whatever makes sense to us :) | 06:53 |
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| Kaadlajk | anyway the host side SSH keys can be installed anywhere | 06:54 |
| timoph | true. so the key install script is not really needed | 06:54 |
| E-P | did the tr-lite have a configuration file or do you have to always specify the SSH key path? | 06:55 |
| Kaadlajk | E-P: no configuration file, by default it searches keys from $HOME/.ssh | 06:55 |
| timoph | dunno if it would make sense to add support for conf files to it? | 06:56 |
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| timoph | something like it'd read ~/.testrunner-lite.conf if exists and if not it'd use the defaults or override the config/defaults from provided params | 06:57 |
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| E-P | would be nice to have | 06:58 |
| timoph | sampos: ^ ;) | 06:58 |
| E-P | my point was just, it is annoying to type everytime the SSH key path if the keys are not in the ~/.ssh/ :) | 06:59 |
| * E-P is lazy | 06:59 | |
| timoph | yeah | 06:59 |
| timoph | and should help with ots setup too | 06:59 |
| Kaadlajk | OTS is not lazy :P | 06:59 |
| timoph | :) | 06:59 |
| sampos | doable | 06:59 |
| E-P | heh | 07:00 |
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| timoph | Stskeeps: your idea is to install the host side stuff into the sdk chroot? | 07:08 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:08 |
| Stskeeps | then people can easily install test .xmls too | 07:08 |
| timoph | that actually would solve the problem of having to care about what distro people use | 07:08 |
| timoph | etc | 07:08 |
| E-P | +1 for that idea | 07:08 |
| timoph | I like the idea | 07:08 |
| timoph | we need to try ots with the sdk | 07:09 |
| timoph | should work | 07:09 |
| E-P | we only need the ots-worker to work in the sdk | 07:10 |
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| timoph | true | 07:10 |
| E-P | that requires python + amqplib to python | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: http://pastie.org/3766592 can give you a pretty good idea of what you need to do for lipstick | 07:11 |
| harbaum | Cool, thanks | 07:11 |
| harbaum | Urgh ... i586 ... | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | i know, just s/i586/armv7l/ | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:15 |
| harbaum | i just did M-x replace-string i586 armv7l | 07:15 |
| harbaum | And please don't send the police ... | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | should work, but you need to fi hardware adaptation | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | x | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:16 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: are you familar with h.264 ? | 07:25 |
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| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: not really | 07:26 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: ok, I can play mpegts files which contains h264 video and aac audio. But when I play mp4 files, qtdemux parse them to h264 video and aac audio, but my hardware decoders cannot decode them. | 07:28 |
| ZiQiangHuan | it seems gstreamer plugins is more complex than my original thought of it. | 07:31 |
| _av500_ | H264 in MP4 is in AVCC, you need to unpack that | 07:40 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | _av500_: in AVCC? | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | advanced video coding, i think? | 07:52 |
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| harbaum | Stskeeps: Lipstick seems to be running. But it seems compositing is broken. I think sometimes xterm runs fullscreen, but i still see the desktop | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: ok, do you have DRI enabled drivers? | 07:55 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: we need to have mer package naming guide, like "Test stuff to -test (or tests)", "Docs stuff to -doc (or -docs) etc." | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: :nod: | 07:55 |
| harbaum | Don't know :-) | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: task bug | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: get mer-gfx-tests and run eglinfo | 07:56 |
| InformatiQ | Stskeeps: do you know where do we set the worker arch? | 07:56 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I noted tht atm. we have multiple different names used e.g. some are -doc and some -docs etc. | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: fork meego's packaging/guidelines and put it on mer somewhere | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | InformatiQ: so, i think 'new' obs is different | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | InformatiQ: if you noticed, now OBS project configuration for cross compilation talks about Hostarch, which means "do cross builds on this type of worker" | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | so the worker arch would probably be autodetected instead | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | Mer has project configuration for arm build saying Hostarch: i586, for example | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | (or x86_64, i forget) | 07:58 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: do we have entry for documetation or somethin gin mer bz? | 07:58 |
| harbaum | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3766726 | 07:58 |
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| Sage | Mer Policies? | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: sure | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: what driver version is that, and what xorg driver are you using? | 07:59 |
| _av500_ | ZiQiangHuan: see here: http://aviadr1.blogspot.fr/2010/05/h264-extradata-partially-explained-for.html | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: http://pastie.org/3766731 if you can't access that | 07:59 |
| ZiQiangHuan | _av500_: thank you for the link | 08:00 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yes, alaways we cannot access lots of link | 08:01 |
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| harbaum | Stskeeps: That's the ti-omap3-gfx-4.03.00.02-sgx binary blob from ti with the omapfb xorg driver | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: ah.. that's probably why compositor doesn't work | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | you need the one where dri works | 08:03 |
| harbaum | does that exist? | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | yes, the crappy closed source pvr xorg driver.. i think | 08:04 |
| harbaum | which didn't run on the beagle ölast time i checked | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't? | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | that sucks.. | 08:04 |
| harbaum | it didn't find the display | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | well, that's why then | 08:06 |
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| harbaum | Also that only exists for armv7hl, right? | 08:09 |
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| Stskeeps | which, xorg driver? | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | i was talking about TI's xorg driver, not n900 :) | 08:11 |
| harbaum | Which repo is that in? | 08:12 |
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| harbaum | I think i missed some develmoment at ti :-) | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | possibly :) | 08:14 |
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| Stskeeps | either way, that's the reason | 08:14 |
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| harbaum | Are these new drivers already in obs somewhere? | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | i haven't seen them anywhere, i thin | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | k | 08:21 |
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| harbaum | Noone else has been working with omap3/4 lately? | 08:26 |
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| Stskeeps | we have with omap4 | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | in other news, http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/demotivational-posters-history.jpg | 08:28 |
| timoph | :D | 08:29 |
| harbaum | what xserver did you use on omap4 then? | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | sage would know | 08:32 |
| Sage | harbaum: the one from mer | 08:33 |
| dm8tbr | for SGX you want a 3.0 kernel or later | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: merged zypper, gnutls | 08:35 |
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| lbt | morning al | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 08:46 |
| lbt | reading backlog | 08:47 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: 2.3.48 sb2 didn't yield the blockage problem, now testing .51 | 08:49 |
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| lbt | blockage problem? | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, builds utilitizng 2.3.47 had a stall in build-compare | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | waiting for input | 08:51 |
| lbt | ah, that one | 08:51 |
| lbt | ok, coffee ... bbiab | 08:52 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: whenever you have a moment, http://review.merproject.org/494 | 09:03 |
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| alterego | So, what should I do for my birthday? Thinking a bike ride followed by beer and curry | 09:08 |
| alterego | Maybe I'll go out and buy me something nice. | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like a plan | 09:09 |
| Termana | alterego, is it your birthday today? Happy Birthday | 09:10 |
| alterego | Is A | 09:10 |
| alterego | yes | 09:10 |
| alterego | it is | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | and happy birthday :) | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: did you have a n9? | 09:10 |
| alterego | I have two :x | 09:10 |
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| lbt | happy birthday alterego \o/ | 09:18 |
| alterego | :) | 09:19 |
| mdfe_ | happy birthday | 09:20 |
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| Stskeeps | hello bfederau | 09:31 |
| bfederau | hi Stskeeps | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 09:33 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: bfederau is a colleague of me and likes to support me | 09:35 |
| mdfe_ | :D | 09:35 |
| bfederau | I'm from basysKom and I want to help working on mer and plasma active. | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | ah cool :) | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | if you have any questions, feel free to ask | 09:36 |
| bfederau | thanks. I will do this ;) | 09:37 |
| harbaum | Stskeeps: Do you have some "new user auto detection" or how do you manage to reliably greet newbys? | 09:38 |
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| Stskeeps | harbaum: good memory and grep | 09:38 |
| harbaum | Is grep unrealiable if your computer has bad memory? | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | hehe ;) | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | it does yield a fairly high success rate of getting to talk to people about what they'd like to use Mer for, so | 09:39 |
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| dariornelas | hi there! When I try to umount mer-sdk-chroot it appears "There appears to be 2 chroot(s) still using this SDK Process(es): 6581 6725" | 10:13 |
| dariornelas | and I already restarted the computer, the processes don't exist | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ^ | 10:15 |
| lbt | ... | 10:16 |
| lbt | OK | 10:16 |
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| lbt | dariornelas: OK - sorry, lost the src for a bit there :) | 10:23 |
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| lbt | so what's happening is that when you enter an SDK a pid file is created in $sdkroot/.active_chroots/ | 10:24 |
| lbt | these are removed when you leave | 10:25 |
| lbt | if you reboot without exiting the SDK they're left hanging around | 10:25 |
| lbt | ensure_active_chroot_list_is_empty() could do with checking that the pids don't actually exist and then removing them - patches welcome | 10:26 |
| lbt | for now just delete the files in that dir | 10:26 |
| dariornelas | thanks ;) | 10:26 |
| dariornelas | now when I try to build an image it says "Error <creator>: No enough space used for downloading.". I have 1.2GB, how much more space do I need? | 10:28 |
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| dariornelas | btw, I following this guide http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Vivaldi | 10:29 |
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| vgrade | dariornelas, well you need at least 2gb for the image, plus say 1gb for the packages | 10:42 |
| vgrade | dariornelas, I saw you had a problem with /dev/loop02, how did you get round that? | 10:43 |
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| dariornelas | vgrade: I think I just removed the old session file | 11:03 |
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| dariornelas | vgrade: I'm still getting that error when I try to create a raw image | 11:19 |
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| pdanek | how much are people willing to pay for brand new Nokia N900 these days? :) | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | ask ebay | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:26 |
| _av500_ | 50€ | 11:27 |
| Termana | pdanek, are you getting rid of one? The shame! | 11:27 |
| Termana | :p | 11:27 |
| pdanek | Termana: I will see if I get replacement from Nokia service or not | 11:28 |
| pdanek | Termana: if I do, I will sell it probably and buy Samsung SGSII, flash Boot to Gecko, and try something else :) | 11:28 |
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| kimju | btw, what is latest status on running mer (+something) on panda board? with a quick glance on wiki, I found just a single image from Sage on 2011/11 | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | sage runs it pretty nicely these days | 12:10 |
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| kimju | I was asked to give a short demo of mer running on a pandaboard. | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120315.1.NEMO.2012-03-19.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7l-pandaboard/ | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | have fun | 12:20 |
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| Stskeeps | kimju: should work pretty easily | 12:29 |
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| vgrade | dariornelas, loop error? | 12:51 |
| vgrade | what distro? | 12:51 |
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| Stskeeps | well, i have fullscreen egl/gles working under mer on touchpad | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | i'm a tiny bit worried about it seemingily doing 200fps though :) | 12:57 |
| Sage | kimju: the latest image is on latest nemo release | 13:04 |
| Sage | kimju: also the guide is in nemo installation guide | 13:04 |
| Sage | kimju: only problem is that it works only with pandaboard 4430 not the pandaboard es atm. I have update for the es support also but I don't have device to test it with | 13:05 |
| kimju | this seems to be model: pandaboard rev a3 | 13:06 |
| dm8tbr | mine sadly took a really bad beating on my flight back from the US | 13:09 |
| dm8tbr | so it's probably broken | 13:09 |
| dm8tbr | have to try it though if it boots | 13:10 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: may I ask why don't you publish source packages? | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: long story short: the way OBS makes source rpms is a way that does not ensure that the .src.rpm is actually equal to the input that sits in the OBS, meaning that you don't get the .src.rpm needed to replicate the build | 13:15 |
| mdfe_ | ack | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | and that's against a number of licenses | 13:16 |
| mdfe_ | and you ensure this by the mer delivery system? | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: in mer the way we make the binary packages is through fakeobs/MDS and our packages-git/ , which represents the exact source and method used to build it | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | so anyone can replicate how they were made | 13:16 |
| mdfe_ | great thanks for this fast answer | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | the sociological reason is that people tried to (including myself) to take meego source rpms and failing to make a complete meego copy with it | 13:17 |
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| Stskeeps | and i want to be sure that even if i'm run over by a bus, or the mer OBS is nuked from orbit, people can resurrect it :) | 13:18 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 13:18 |
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| dariornelas | vgrade: opensuse 12.1 | 13:58 |
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| dariornelas | but if I use fs instead of raw, it works | 13:58 |
| dariornelas | and I'm having another problem, this partition /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/parentroot/home is always created with 1.6GB, how do I increase it? | 13:59 |
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| vgrade | dariornelas, thanks for the version | 14:22 |
| vgrade | dariornelas, yea, we only have the loop issue on raw images not fs | 14:22 |
| vgrade | dariornelas, lbt correct me if I'm wrong but that is you home directory mapped into the sdk? | 14:23 |
| lbt | yes | 14:26 |
| lbt | dariornelas: in the sdk the /parentroot directory is just a link to your desktop / ..... | 14:27 |
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| dariornelas | ahh ok | 14:28 |
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| trip0 | mooorning | 15:47 |
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| Stskeeps | m00rning | 15:54 |
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| vgrade | https://www.tizen.org/sites/default/files/pages/tdc2012_schedule_web_v2.pdf | 16:49 |
| _av500_ | they found a sponsor? | 16:52 |
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| CosmoHill | hello | 17:10 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: first day is .. empty? | 17:16 |
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| _av500_ | Stskeeps: there is dinner | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | i appreciate a good dinner | 17:22 |
| _av500_ | 3h is a good time for that | 17:22 |
| vgrade | seems weird, especially as they had 140 proposals and only excepted 47 | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: ok, that's fairly normal | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: we had 200ish and was able to acccomodate 67 | 17:23 |
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| Stskeeps | the schedule isn't half bad, but the first day looks really bizarre | 17:25 |
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| vgrade | first day you can spend playing with your new Samsung Tizen Handet | 17:34 |
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| Stskeeps | tahats wednesday | 17:36 |
| vgrade | pick one up for me | 17:39 |
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