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| Stskeeps | morn | 05:47 |
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| Termana | morning | 06:27 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: btw, noticed that the tizen stuff has a connman-qt | 06:56 |
| dm8tbr | qt? I thought Qt was framework-non-grata in tizen | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: in ivi it's mandated | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | you don't ask those guys to change on a whim :) | 07:02 |
| dm8tbr | ah, right, IVI is dead set on QT | 07:04 |
| * dm8tbr had a talk about IVI and did some background research, so knows at least a bit about 'their world' | 07:05 | |
| Stskeeps | frankly, i'm happy to see two different backend stacks (.rpm, .deb) having a tizen stamp :P | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | at least we don't need stupid discussions about packaging format as the apps are in .wgt ;) | 07:06 |
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| Stskeeps | morn IanWizard | 07:08 |
| IanWizard | Stskeeps: barely. :P | 07:08 |
| Stskeeps | indeed.. though it's easters so have to go to my mother in law | 07:09 |
| IanWizard | Stskeeps: hey, there's an upside to that. | 07:29 |
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| harbaum | Morning! | 07:53 |
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| Stskeeps | morn harbaum | 07:57 |
| harbaum | I am thinking about how to deal with the c71+. I wonder if the GPL requires the seller to give me the source | 07:57 |
| harbaum | Imho it does as he is distributing the kernel. | 07:58 |
| harbaum | I am pretty sure a german seller will taske the device back to avoid a negative review on ebay | 07:58 |
| harbaum | but what about chinese sellers? They seem to be very afraid of negative reviews | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | theoretically the person/entity that distributed to you is obligated | 08:00 |
| harbaum | Also is there really happening that much behind the curtains regarding the vivaldi? | 08:00 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm not involved, but it's my impression they're doing what they can, even meeting people physically, talking to chipset people, etc | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | the image on vivaldi should obviously be gpl compliant | 08:02 |
| dm8tbr | did they have any 'problematic' chips on that thing? | 08:02 |
| harbaum | Stskeeps: But who's "they"? Obviously even the-gibsondoesn't have a clue | 08:02 |
| harbaum | Sounds like the vivaldi is based on amlogic3 which currently does not have any public kernel source | 08:03 |
| dm8tbr | as in e.g. boradcom or other companies known for their 'gpl friendlyness' | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: aaron seigo at least, no idea who the-gibson is | 08:03 |
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| harbaum | I've been told "the-gibson" is madmaze and thus the person behind opentablets | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | that's a community though, ie forums and so on | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | as far as i can tell | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | think internettablettalk | 08:05 |
| dm8tbr | btw: someone sat down and created another boot menu for SDE, this time gen9 | 08:05 |
| harbaum | Sure, thus i expected the guys behind opentablets being as close the the tablet guys as the it guys where to nokia | 08:06 |
| * dm8tbr is happy as he wouldn't have had the time for it | 08:06 | |
| IanWizard | makes me think "internetpillowtalk" | 08:06 |
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| Stskeeps | harbaum: wasn't much at all :) | 08:06 |
| harbaum | really? I thought there were nokia employees like texrat involved | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | either way, i doubt they'd put out a vivaldi with kernel source problems, it'd be community suicide | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: reggie (owner of itt/tmo) started it on his own, texrat hasn't been a nokian for ages | 08:07 |
| harbaum | Hmm ... ok | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | it's first when itt got merged into maemo.org reggie got bills paid for hosting, but maemo.org work didn't typically come with a nokia nda | 08:08 |
| harbaum | Ok. Still i'd be interested how a chinese seller would deal with the request for source code. If you pay via paypal you could even revoke the money | 08:10 |
| dm8tbr | there is a good chance that the seller has no chance to get the sources as he is just a box pusher | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | more interesting is if paypal will consider a gpl violation a revoke reason.. | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:11 |
| harbaum | sure. but we have no direct way to request anything from the vedors. the sellers are the only ones that have an interest in satsfied customers | 08:11 |
| harbaum | Actually i would expect the chinese sellers to be pretty close to the vendors | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not sure i'd be able to justify a credit card protesting the cost if i got was what advertised from their web page | 08:13 |
| harbaum | If the item turns out to contain illegal IP? Sure noone claims it's legal, but that doesn't meant it's ok to be illegal | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | yep, true | 08:15 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders to play with Lipstick today | 08:17 | |
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| harbaum | if you end up with a lipstick .ks i'd like to give it a go on the beagle | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:22 |
| harbaum | Such a lighteight UX is exactly what i am searching for | 08:24 |
| dm8tbr | hmm how slowwww would that be on a N810? | 08:27 |
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| CosmoHill | Morning .o/ | 08:59 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: what's that thing that says it's always morning when someone joins and always evening when they leave? | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | UGT | 09:00 |
| CosmoHill | Universal Greeting Time? | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:01 |
| CosmoHill | thanks | 09:02 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: libsolv needs gitweb project | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | done | 09:54 |
| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=libzypp&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7l | 09:57 |
| Sage_ | I wonder which one of those we should drop? | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | urgh | 09:57 |
| Sage_ | libzypp-6.29.2-meego.patch and libzypp-meego-release.patch at least I guess | 09:57 |
| Sage_ | MeeGo-resume-download.patch doesn't apply | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | they have to be modified at least, -meego-release that is | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | i don't mind something stock-ish for libzypp | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | and then fix as we go | 09:59 |
| Sage_ | So dropping everything for now and see what comes up? | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | right | 09:59 |
| Sage_ | That sounds good to me. | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | the timestamp one should stay in :P | 09:59 |
| thauta | Stskeeps: is there a git tree somewhere for lipstick? | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | thauta: hmm, i think w00t has one | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: ? | 10:02 |
| thauta | seems to be well hidden =) | 10:02 |
| thauta | https://github.com/rburchell/lipstick-home thats the one i found but now gives 404 | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick | 10:07 |
| thauta | cheers | 10:08 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: augeas, libsolv, libzypp, zypper in review. | 11:39 |
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| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7l | 11:39 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: compiling at ^ if you want to see. There are dependencies, thus the compiles in gerrit will probably fail. | 11:39 |
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| CosmoHill | Happy Easter / Giving Chocolate Eggs to loved ones day | 11:46 |
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| Aard | 14:39 < Sage_> Stskeeps: augeas, libsolv, libzypp, zypper in review. | 14:01 |
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| Stskeeps | Aard: putty strikes again? | 14:02 |
| Aard | stuff on mouse error | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 14:02 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: I haven't tested thosezypp packages yet btw. | 14:07 |
| Sage_ | I did one image with those on thursday but that is all | 14:07 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 14:09 |
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| * CosmoHill wants to code something | 15:24 | |
| Stskeeps | plenty of open severity=task bugs on bugs.merproject.org | 15:24 |
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| Stskeeps | moo alterego | 16:15 |
| alterego | Good day :) | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: seems like non-admin folk are getting out of captcha images error | 16:15 |
| alterego | Hrm, okay. | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: i've started packaging up lipstick without libmeegotouch dep and planning on start hacking a bit again as well | 16:15 |
| alterego | Cool | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | concluded i need some project to support my core work :P | 16:16 |
| alterego | Heh | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | how was france? | 16:17 |
| alterego | Really good :) | 16:18 |
| alterego | captcha should be sorted now. | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | alright, ta | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | what causes it? | 16:20 |
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| alterego | It just runs out of images. So i have to generate a load of new ones, which takes a while. | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 16:23 |
| alterego | We should probably set up a cron job thayt replenishes them over night or something. | 16:23 |
| alterego | Are you going to the Tizen summit? | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | yup,got sponsored | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | and i don't even have to give a talk | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | you? | 16:26 |
| alterego | I'm thinking about it | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | tickets from warsaw are 942 usd plus atm | 16:26 |
| alterego | Think I'd like to go, what routes are there for sponsorship? | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | too late now, i think | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | it's in less than a month | 16:27 |
| alterego | Yeah | 16:28 |
| alterego | Well, I'll think about it next week. I'm trying to wind myself up to a month of hacking after a week of nice holiday in the snow ;) | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 16:29 |
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| Stskeeps | step 1: coffee | 16:31 |
| alterego | Heh | 16:31 |
| alterego | I've got now plans to do any work today, except having a quick look over my code to remember what I want to do next week. | 16:32 |
| alterego | Which is what I'm doing now, later I will be playing xbox :) | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | i'm on doctor who and trying to avoid a flu | 16:33 |
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| alterego | lol | 16:35 |
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| alterego | I started coming down with something before I left, but being in the mountains sorted me out and I didn't really get hit with anything worse than a tingly cough | 16:35 |
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| patinux_laptop | hi | 16:54 |
| patinux_laptop | sorry my englis is not very good | 16:54 |
| patinux_laptop | y have openmoko Neo its possible install mer ? | 16:55 |
| patinux_laptop | y have qtmoko y whant change .... | 16:56 |
| patinux_laptop | mer is very importante .. ;) | 16:57 |
| patinux_laptop | french here ? | 16:58 |
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| CosmoHill | patinux_laptop: some i think | 17:02 |
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| patinux_laptop | CosmoHill, thank :) | 17:05 |
| patinux_laptop | you have N900 ? | 17:05 |
| patinux_laptop | Neo ? | 17:05 |
| CosmoHill | nope, sony w995 | 17:05 |
| patinux_laptop | its ok | 17:05 |
| patinux_laptop | me y not sure mer for freeruner GTO2 /07 | 17:07 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm not sure either | 17:08 |
| patinux_laptop | ok :) | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | mer doesnt currently port to armv4 so no gta02 port possible | 17:08 |
| patinux_laptop | ah ok :/ | 17:09 |
| patinux_laptop | Stskeeps, ok thank you | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | i have a gta02 so maybe one day, but today no | 17:09 |
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| patinux_laptop | yes I would love to be a little jhours :) | 17:10 |
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| patinux_laptop | yes I would love to be a few days :) | 17:11 |
| patinux_laptop | you have qymoko in freerunner ? | 17:12 |
| patinux_laptop | oups | 17:12 |
| patinux_laptop | qtmoko * | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | atm nothing | 17:12 |
| patinux_laptop | ok | 17:13 |
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| patinux_laptop | thank bye all :) | 20:47 |
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