Monday, 2012-04-02

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wmaroneintel never ceases to amaze03:48
wmarone$ make menuconfig03:48
wmaroneMakefile:114: *** multiple target patterns.  Stop.03:48
wmaroneI have never seen this before03:49
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wmaronefile path with colons04:03
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Stskeepshuge grey cloud outside, monday morning.. well this isn't helping05:03
dm8tbrsnow storm outside, isn't helping either05:08
iekkugood news: this is short week05:09
iekkudm8tbr, not so much snowing in valkeakoski anymore, so the snowing should stop soon in tampere also05:10
Stskeepsit is?05:10
* Stskeeps checks calendar05:10
iekkuStskeeps, eastern05:10
iekkueaster ?05:10
Stskeepsoh so it is05:10
iekkuyes, easter...05:11
iekkugoing to stockholm on thu, last year there was ~20 degrees, not so lucky this time :(05:11
Stskeepsit was 20C here in warsaw a week ago, i come back, 3 C and snow05:11
iekkuuhoh :D05:12
Stskeepsyeah, doubt it will be that good atm ;)05:13
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iekku+3 for the weekend :(05:15
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Stskeepsmorn E-P05:22
StskeepsE-P: i probably won't be able to attend QA meeting due to travelling for a funeral, but i think lbt is fairly synced with what i would have said anyway05:22
Stskeepsnext time around i'll for sure be there though05:22
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E-PStskeeps: ok, no problem at all. I try to answer to your mailing list post today, just clearing out some stuff05:26
Stskeeps:nod: i'm planning on fixing some things that'll allow us to actually pull that off05:27
iekkuE-P, what time the meeting is? (in finland)05:29
E-Piekku: tomorrow at 11 UTC, so 14 in finland time05:31
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iekkuok, good :)05:33
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StskeepsSage: armv6l / armv7l looks better today?05:53
Sageor do I need rebuild?05:55
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Stskeepsnow that's screwed up05:57
Stskeepsthis is going to be a bad day06:05
Sageit is monday so what did you expect? :)06:05
E-Pit is windows 8 day here...06:06
* Stskeeps headdesks06:08
Stskeepsmake a guess why the last packages aren't printed06:09
iekkuE-P, for some reason i had a earsworm singing in my head: miljoonasade - 506 ikkunaa06:09
iekku(ikkunaa = windows)06:09
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Stskeeps(hint, it should be <= 48)06:11
niqtmorning all06:13
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Stskeepsmorn niqt06:18
StskeepsSage: where did you have mkcal?06:18
* Stskeeps has a really bad feeling about mkcal inclusion06:22
Stskeepslbt: found error in 0.0.2, let's just get 0.1 out today with this content and this fixed06:29
Stskeepslbt: it was a bug in dumpbuild06:29
StskeepsSage: i've created mer-core/libical , mer-core/kcalcore , mer-core/mkcal06:32
Stskeepsplease submit libical first06:32
Stskeepsideally update it to 0.48 too06:36
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* Stskeeps has to head downtown, bbl06:43
SageStskeeps: home:sage:mkcal06:43
mdfe_good morning all06:44
Sagemorning mdfe_06:45
Sagemdfe_: boss seems to have a bug in the submit acceptance with failed packages thus your package for fuse was rejected :/06:45
mdfe_ah, ok06:46
Sagethe last SR you did looked ok to me06:47
mdfe_Sage when do you have time to talk about PA repo structure?06:49
Sagemdfe_: Today is quite busy day for me, but depends how late you are here :)06:50
mdfe_We will see :)06:50
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Stskeepsand now it's hailing too, fun07:09
vgrademorn, blue sky all the way here :)07:15
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* Sage curses his network infra07:16
* w00t looks out at the snow miserably07:16
dm8tbrmhm, snowstorm...07:16
dm8tbr5+cm over night, and there I thought we were about to enter finnish summer. should have known that this won't happen before wappu07:17
w00tmirrors my expectations, yeah07:17
kimjudm8tbr, well, this is more or less finnish summer ;)07:19
dm8tbryeah, I'm actually used to seeing snow up till wappu. the last week of thawing just managed to deceive me07:21
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Sagelbt: pubworker07 seems to be having problems again07:35
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lbtmorning all07:49
lbtOK ... blue sky here .... about the only good thing ... but at least it's something!07:54
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Stskeepslbt, saw my note on dumpbuild?08:16
lbtyeah - I'm looking at it08:17
lbtobs-repos/Core\:armv7l\:0.20120405.0.0.2/Core_armv7l/armv7el/_repository\?view\=names is complete08:17
lbtmmm ... s/is complete/mentions all packages/08:18
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lbtStskeeps: I was working on it - are you?08:20
lbtno point in us both doing it08:20
slainemorning folks08:22
lbthey slaine08:22
slainehey lbt08:22
slainesaw your work over the weekend re my bugs, thanks08:22
lbthad a bitch of a problem which held me up no end08:23
slainewas thinking of setting up the frontend/backend again this morning and pointing to Mer:Tools:Devel08:23
slaineYou mentioned the lvm issues on Friday alright08:24
lbtnah ... ruby kept bitching about:08:24
lbtruby 1.8 http Connection failed SocketError: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known08:24
slaineoh, more nasty problems08:24
lbtnon stop ...08:24
slaineThis in relation to my patch or just in general ?08:24
lbtI added debug prints... couldn't resolve obsbe08:24
lbtpinged obsbe ... resolved fine08:25
lbt.... turned out that the VM install had resolv.conf as 64008:25
lbtroot could resolve, obsrun couldn't08:25
slaineThat's happened to me before08:25
lbtit's because I'm automating the setup of the VM for testing08:26
lbtand ran with umask 00708:26
slainebut that was human error iirc, some sysadmin do a blanker permissions set in /etc, nob08:26
lbtyeah, this was my fault too08:26
slainewhat the hell ? must read as I type08:27
slainedid a blanket permissions set08:27
lbtOTOH the original error was hidden due to a faulty exception catch in OBS08:27
slaineSimple mistake though, things like that happen all the time08:27
slainewe all have scares ;)08:27
lbtyeah - and I've fixed the OBS error about http not finished08:28
lbtor not started or whatever it was08:28
Stskeepslbt: i fixed dumpbuild08:28
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Stskeepslbt: i messed up printnames.py08:29 ?08:29
Stskeepsback at desk in 1508:29
Stskeepswill explain there08:29
lbtok ... I'll wait and we can re-run08:29
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lbtgah ... you fixed it before I read it...08:33
lbtgood - I checked that boundary and it was OK (after you fixed it)08:34
lbtslaine: feel free to check :Devel - I need to do some more pushes - I'll say when I do them08:35
slainelbt, sorry, which bit are you talking about.08:36
lbt[02/04/2012 09:23] <slaine> was thinking of setting up the frontend/backend again this morning and pointing to Mer:Tools:Devel08:37
slaineoh, you where talking to Stskeeps08:37
lbtyes, mainly08:37
slaineYeah, I'll do that now before I get called into any meetings. Have to pop down to the server room08:37
Stskeepslbt: i ran a sample run and discovered printbinaries had count ==4808:43
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Stskeepswhich explains the missing packages08:44
Stskeepslbt: because it's monday i think we should call it 0.1, still fairly on track for release on thursday08:44
Stskeepsi did some brief testing on x86 at least08:45
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lbtOK - I'll push the button again08:46
lbtthis time we should verify the repos, not the packages :/08:48
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Stskeepsyes, i woke up and thought that was what you verified :)08:48
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Stskeepsanyway, yeah, button should good08:53
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StskeepsBostik, ahma: how's the openid nightmare going?09:21
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SageStskeeps: also libqtsparql needs git prj09:30
StskeepsSage: absolutely sure qtmobility requires that?09:32
SageStskeeps: it is mkcal that deps on that09:35
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SageStskeeps: I'll recheck09:36
Sageok, shouldn't need09:37
Stskeepsmaybe in mkcal but if we can cut that, that'd be nice..09:39
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Sageniqt: Would be nice if you could verify the packaging after I get it cleaned up again :)09:40
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Stskeeps'lo ash09:42
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SageStskeeps: well the code needs mods to get the qtsparql out09:49
Sagehowever it seems that it might be possible to get out though09:49
Stskeepsyeah, that'd be preferable09:50
BostikStskeeps: for my part, on hold - I'm up to my ears in work-related project hassle09:50
StskeepsBostik: ok09:51
StskeepsBostik: which version would you prefer we sent for review, :Qt5 or :Qt5:Devel?09:51
niqtSage: (exuses for delay but i'm working on 3 virtual machine), i'll verify tonight09:51
Stskeepsi'll take it on me to get done09:51
Sageniqt: no need yet there is mods still needed09:52
SageStskeeps: I'm confused by that if else there in that func09:52
BostikStskeeps: :devel, it's closer to what qt5-alpha eventually turned out to be09:52
StskeepsSage: urgh09:53
StskeepsBostik: OK09:53
SageStskeeps: even if mkcal tracker sync isn't on it still uses the connection for something :P09:54
Stskeepsw00t: didnt' we discuss this insanity at some point?09:54
* w00t reads up09:55
SageI'm really not the right person to patch that out as it seems a bit screwed :D09:56
w00thmm... I don't know09:56
Stskeepsw00t: there was something about mkcal guys keeping a local database aside from tracker or soemthing like that09:57
w00ton harmattan, the way calendaring works afaik is that it's written to a sqlite database (read/write) as well as to tracker (read-only, the stack never tries to read from tracker, it's just for use for things like search)09:57
w00tthat may be related to mUseTracker, I don't know09:58
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SageStskeeps: I'll check if I can patched it out10:04
StskeepsSage: - please to review10:05
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* Bostik needs either one free week or a clone of himself10:06
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StskeepsBostik: i know the feeling, i wouldn't mind an upgrade at times either..10:06
Bostikit's bad enough your work is blocking progress on other developers10:07
Bostiknow I'm infested with "your work is blocking projects from starting up in schedule"10:08
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SageStskeeps: is this qt5 suppose to be mer only or shared with other distros btw?10:15
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StskeepsSage: potentially shared, i guess10:16
Stskeepsthough we all know that given X amount of distros, there'll be X solutions10:16
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SageJust pondering about my responses to that review :)10:17
Bostikdon't hold your punches, qt5 is such a gargantuan piece of code it doesn't need too many moving parts in packaging front :)10:19
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SageBostik: quite nice packaging btw :D10:33
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SageStskeeps: review done10:46
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SageStskeeps, w00t:
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Stskeepsahma (and bostik if he wants to see),,sidebyside,494,1,qtbase.spec10:49
Stskeepsseems quite sane10:49
lbtStskeeps: reminder :  feel free to change - just helps if we both use the same format :)10:49
Stskeepshow do i install Test::CSV? :P10:50
Stskeepsfoudn package10:50
Stskeepslbt: i think i messsed the timezones, so triage is in 1 hour 10 mins10:50
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Stskeepslbt: feature request, component name10:52
Sagegrr... all my calendar stuff is hour early :D10:54
lbtStskeeps: OK - and sure10:54
lbtlets me find some paint...10:55
SageIf I'm missing some meeting please ping me :)10:55
lbtbug triage10:55
Sagethat is in 1 hour?10:56
lbtit would normally be about now10:57
Stskeeps12:00 UTC10:57
Stskeepswhich is in an hour10:57
* Sage was pondering if this was only one week thing talked about or if it was about summertime :)10:58
* lbt claims that's a bug in the scheduling10:58
Stskeepswill try to remember to fix it from next week10:58
lbttayeah meetings should be at a consistent local time10:58
lbtanyhow ... bbiab10:59
Stskeepshow does that work in scheduling hell week when DST isn't the same across the world :)10:59
lbtjust pick BST and I'll be happy11:05
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StskeepsREMINDER: Mer bug triage in #mer-meeting in 20 minutes, join if you'd like to find something to do as well :)11:39
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Sageanyone know if there is somekind of guide where to find kernel cmdline options for certain modules?11:54
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Aardmodinfo, Documentation directory in the kernel, module source? :)11:56
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Sageok, let me ask this say. How can I be sure that during boot g_ether (or similar) module would be up usb0 interface up and ip set for it?11:57
Sageand all this from kernelcmdline11:58
Stskeepsif it's a module, you need to look at modprobe configuration11:58
SageI build it as buildin so it should be loaded on boot11:58
Stskeepsif it's statically linked in, there's a g_ether. format or something for in-built11:58
Stskeepslook into how we did it for USB NFS?11:58
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SageUSB NFS?11:59
Stskeepsrecall that marquiz did booting of meego on top of usb nfs11:59
Stskeepssame principles i guess?11:59
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Stskeepsthere should be guides out there how to do nfs over usb, which'd tell how to set ip12:00
Stskeepsbug triage now in #mer-meeting12:00
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AardSage: you just use the module parameters, prefixed with modulename: as kernel commandline?12:01
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SageAard: yes, but really don't know where to find those. Thus asking.12:04
Aardmodinfo, some are documented in the Documentation directory of the kernel, and for the rest just look at the module source12:05
Sagemodinfo is for running system not for the source tree12:06
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Aardof  course12:16
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* Sage ponders if there is some way to get stuff printed to the screen on galaxy nexus during kernel boot. 12:30
Sagecurrently only thing I see is "Google" and lock that is unlocked12:30
Sagewhen trying to boot my own ramdisk12:30
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vgradeSage, not the same hardware I know but I seem to recall with one of my early devices (pulse, nexus1) there was a framebuffer patch required. My note taking was not as good back then. But MeeGo MSM wiki page notes, MSM framebuffer driver is not working with X.Org fbdev driver. (Needs kernel thread patch to flush framebuffer data to display)12:46
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Sagevgrade: well, Im far from xorg atm. but that patch sounds something that might help12:48
vgradeSage, dammed if I can find it though12:50
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Stskeepslbt: 2012-04-02 12:14:06 [23332]: POST /putjob?job=home:merboss:SBC:tmpqLi7S0obsupload-change-493-patchset-1::Core_i586::libical-b0f77c378f8a763aeaaf968a3bdab74f&arch=i586&jobid=b86655e16b808171be4f8a35d0d637cc&code=succeeded&now=133337128513:01
Stskeeps10.110.0.4: time mismatch13:01
Stskeepsgetting jobs getting restarted13:01
Stskeepsi guess ntp may be missing on the be vm13:04
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Sagevgrade: :/ srpm for that kernel would be nice13:06
Stskeepslbt: seeking guidance on what direction to go, i can work on this13:07
Stskeepsokay, so install ntpd?13:08
lbtshould really be done through puppet13:08
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slaineI now seem to have the inverse problem to the one I had on friday, after the reinstall13:08
Stskeepsbe:/srv/obs/log # date -u13:08
StskeepsMon Apr  2 10:23:36 UTC 201213:08
Stskeepsis obviously wrong13:08
slainethat is now only the i586 scheduler will start rather than that being the only one that won't start13:08
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Stskeepsslaine: sysconfig set corectly?13:09
slainei586 x86_64 armv7el armv8el13:10
slainesame as it was on friday13:10
slainegonna get MDS setup again and then I'll take a closer look13:10
vgradeSage, will have a dig after work13:11
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Sagevgrade: thx13:12
vgradewhat exact model are you on13:12
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Sagevgrade: GT-i925013:17
Sageit is omap4 based android phone13:18
vgradethanks there are so many galaxy nexus s s2 etc13:19
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Sagethis is just "Galaxy Nexus" :P13:21
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bigbluehatpretty sure this guy should'a used #mer:
Stskeepshehe, sounds insane :P13:56
bigbluehatyeah, fu realz13:57
bigbluehatwould really like to get #mer running on my NES ;)13:57
Stskeepswe had it on Wii in old days14:04
Stskeepswhen we were ubuntu based14:04
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Stskeepslbt: so how are we on 0.1 ?14:23
lbtrelease side is done14:24
lbtjust finishing lunch14:24
lbtthen I'll do cobs14:24
Stskeeps'lo CosmoHill14:32
* CosmoHill has just accepted his first job and is really nervous :/14:33
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Stskeepsthey'll pay you or fire you, not much else to it14:33
Stskeepsnow try consulting, that's a rollercoaster14:33
CosmoHillI did say "if I fuck up I expect to be fired" :/14:33
Stskeepsah, the american company style..14:33
CosmoHill6 month trial14:34
Stskeepsso what do you hope to use Mer for?14:34
* CosmoHill shurgs14:35
CosmoHillmy interests in mer have nothing to do with work14:35
slaineseriously, what is bs_sched's problem14:35
Stskeepsslaine: check the .log?14:35
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slaineseeing stuff like this all the time14:36
SageStskeeps: the problem with .0.0.2 was found?14:37
StskeepsSage: yes14:37
StskeepsSage: i can't code, it seems14:37
slainei586 was working now it's giving that Build::get_sb2installs bug14:37
slainethe build rpm must have gotten updated or something14:37
Stskeepsshow me the sb2 isntalls one?14:38
Stskeepsyou need to use 'build' from mer, for sure14:41
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slaineStskeeps: yeah, but the version from upstream is newer14:45
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Stskeepsslaine: it is, don't use it :P14:46
slaineI'll uninstall it so and pull down the mer one14:49
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Stskeepsslaine: does our docs tell you to add opensuse tools repo?14:52
slaineStskeeps: no14:53
slaineBut there's an updated package in OpenSuse Updates14:53
* Stskeeps ponders where it picks up 'build' from then14:53
Stskeepswell this can only learn me not to do temporary forks ;)14:53
slaineor to play version number tag14:53
SageStskeeps: what about the sb2 /usr/src dir bug?14:58
StskeepsSage: i'm a little short of time this week due to being gone tomorrow and wednesday, so i'm not sure i'd be able to integrate in that time and be sure to have a stable release15:00
Stskeepsi'll see what i can do though..15:07
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Sage <- anyone happen to done that kind of cable before? :)15:11
Sagejukkaeklund: ^15:12
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Sagethat could help me with the nexus hacking :)15:13
* jukkaeklund tries to remember where is the solder15:14
Sagejukkaeklund: read the last post :)15:16
vgradeSage, I use a ftdi cable on the G915:18
dm8tbrdoesn't sound too hard15:19
jukkaeklundwhere can I find ftdi cable?15:19
dm8tbrthe interesting bit will be to get to the ID pin...15:19
slainerage building15:19
dm8tbrjukkaeklund: there is a very nice little board sold by sparkfun15:20
slaineStskeeps: this is what I get now that I've updated the build rpm15:20
slainewhich is basically back to where I was on Friday before I tried a reinstall this morning15:21
vgradeI got mine from Farnell, lets see if I have the link15:21
Stskeepsslaine: start it a couple of times, remember what lbt said about the queuing/shutdown/startup15:21
slaineYeah, I've been checking and making sure that no other sched processes are running15:21
slaineif I start it from the command line as root, it works everytime15:21
slaineor at least, that was the situation on Friday15:22
Stskeepsslaine: well that might not have been good.. isn't bs_sched supposed to run as obsrun ?15:22
Stskeepsslaine: wouldn't it have changed files to be with root ownership then?15:22
slainehmmm, good point15:22
slaineI did wonder that on friday15:23
slainebut everything in the directory is owned by root anyway15:23
slaineand the permissions look ok15:24
Stskeepsat least /srv/obs/build etc isn't normally for me15:24
Sagedm8tbr, vgrade: So do I get this right. I modify musb cable the micro end according the diagram, break the normal USB end and attach to pins in the FT232RL thing and attach that with mini-usb to my laptop?15:24
dm8tbrSage: that's pretty much how I read this, yes15:24
dm8tbrSage: the tricky bit will bet to get to the ID pin in the microusb connector15:25
dm8tbrSage: but I guess you have enough micro-usb cables to try ;)15:25
SageActually I don't have too many to spare :P15:25
SageI could probably break 2 but after that I would need more :)15:26
vgradeI don't have access to the details , on another email system which is down now15:26
dm8tbryou work(ed) for nokia, Y U NO CABLES? ;-รพ15:26
Sagedm8tbr: subcontracting only ;)15:26
SageAlso have micro usb cable here and there just because I forgot them too often :P15:27
jukkaeklundthis looks nice?
slaineStskeeps: yeah, those dirs/files are still owned by obsrun15:27
dm8tbrjukkaeklund: yeah, sparkfun has the same layout too15:28
vgradebut from memory took a micro <-> usb a cable. Cut in half. Connected micro <-> ftdi cable. Not sure I need the ID line though on G915:28
faktorqmhello, this is the main IC that provides USB<->serial rs23215:28
faktorqmthis chip is recognized by linux kernels from 2.6.XX to 3.XX15:29
Stskeepsslaine: try to start it with rcobssched (i think) start a couple of times15:29
dm8tbrSage: if you need something quick I can solder something up today or tomorrow. I have all necessary spare parts15:29
Sagedm8tbr: well, I'm missing everything basically :P15:30
jukkaeklundSage, I has cables..15:30
faktorqmI work with that in some electronic developments, it very usefull, easy to buy, and rebust features15:30
SageI have cable but I don't have tools either available to do the stuff (read soldering)15:30
dm8tbrjukkaeklund: u haz device to try? we could have a quick hack session15:30
jukkaeklunddm8tbr, Sage has it15:31
Sagedm8tbr: I haz device :)15:31
SageMeetup on Thursday at Tampere? ;)15:31
faktorqmthe another cable super famous is the PL2303, is the same as ftdi232, but I never used it before15:31
jukkaeklundSage, when you coming to hacker HQ?15:31
dm8tbrSage: can do15:31
slaineStskeeps: I have been15:31
dm8tbrfaktorqm: that's also known as the horrific230315:32
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Stskeepsslaine: without any 'stops' too15:32
slaineNo, sorry, start and stops15:32
faktorqmjajaja yeah, from prolific15:32
slaineand ps ax | grep sched15:32
Sagejukkaeklund: Thursday could do actually.15:32
Stskeepsslaine: ok, don't do 'stop', just 'start' a couple of times after it has exited on it's own15:32
slainethat worked15:33
jukkaeklundSage, yeah thursday15:33
jukkaeklunddm8tbr, how bout can you come during the day?15:33
dm8tbrjukkaeklund: mhhhh. let me check my calendar15:33
jukkaeklundor did you meetup in evening?15:33
Stskeepsslaine: remember what lbt said.. 'stop' lays something in queue15:34
jukkaeklundfamily will resist..15:34
dm8tbrjukkaeklund: I could abscond from the orkplace. the only thing where I need to be at a specific location is 14-1615:35
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Sagedm8tbr: you have also the UART device?15:35
dm8tbrI do have a FTDI cable myself15:35
dm8tbrbut I also have a couple of RS232 to 3.3V converters which I could give away15:36
slaineStskeeps: looks like a race condition in the obsschedular15:36
dm8tbrdoes it need 1.8V or 3.3V?15:36
Stskeepsslaine: not so much a race condition but a bad command queue implementation15:36
vgradeG9 connections15:36
slaineStskeeps: adding a usleep 5000 to the init.d script seems to resolve it15:36
dm8tbrso basically if it works I'd also build one for me :)15:37
slaineI'll log a bug15:37
jukkaeklunddm8tbr, cant see V figure from that post..15:38
dm8tbrjukkaeklund: ok so ID pin is prolly unnecessary (at least not needed on gen9), checking reference voltage right now15:40
jukkaeklundin that post there was that resistor15:41
dm8tbrthat's probably because it was in the spec. ;)15:41
jukkaeklundso need to order any hw? disappoint.. :)15:42 need..15:42
dm8tbrbring a micro-usb cable ;)15:43
jukkaeklundyeah, several15:43
dm8tbrhmm I'll have to read the TRM for OMAP415:43
dm8tbrSage: ok, so your samsung prolly needs the ID pin thing15:45
jukkaeklundsage, you bring the kernel :)15:45
dm8tbrjukkaeklund: so, when should we meet?15:45
dm8tbrI can try to prework one cable tomorrow at the Radiokehoilta15:46
Sagejukkaeklund: sure :)15:46
jukkaeklundsage, dm8tbr, so anytime works. I'll need to go abt 14 but sage knows the place..15:48
dm8tbrlet's just hope that the winterwonderland out there is under control by then *pointsoutside*15:48
SageI can be at Tampere from 9 to 17 or so probably.15:49
dm8tbrlet's meet in the morning15:49
dm8tbrthe only thing is I have to find me some privacy from 1030 +30minutes (max)15:49
jukkaeklundyeah 9 for me too15:50
jukkaeklunddm8tbr, I'll get you privacy15:50
dm8tbrok, where do we meet? TTY? UT? Jukka's lair?15:50
jukkaeklundUT, or 2 floors up15:50
jukkaeklundmy lair, you don't want to be there..15:51
jukkaeklundI'll live blog the event :p15:51
* dm8tbr wonders where the hell he'll find a 620\Omega resistor...15:54
dm8tbrwell I can always go to Telok and ask them15:55
jukkaeklundthere is bebek quite close15:55
Sageis there place to solder around UT btw. ?15:56
dm8tbrI was going to ask too :)15:56
jukkaeklundnot really..15:56
Sagesmoke/fire alarms might not like it :)15:56
Sagejukkaeklund: something to suggestion box then ;)15:57
jukkaeklundi'll ask tomorrow15:57
dm8tbrI can borrow a Weller smolderingstation from TTRK15:57
Stskeepssolder in the snow like real finns?15:57
jukkaeklunddm8tbr, we'd need a air sucking thingy, whatdoyoucallit15:58
dm8tbrjukkaeklund: don't have that15:59
* dm8tbr likes the smell of flux in the morning15:59
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Stskeepsdm8tbr: 40416:00
Stskeeps'not found'16:00
dm8tbrtoo bad, _av500_ had a nice solder-tape post on g+16:00
jukkaeklunddm8tbr, what is that thing called in finnish or english?16:01
dm8tbrjukkaeklund: it was on your 'shopping list'. probably sthg like a 'fume collector' or somesuch16:03
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jukkaeklundactually, we'd like soldering iron that also sucks16:06
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lbtStskeeps: release notes?16:44
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slainelbt, submitted a workaround to to my obsscheduler problems16:51
slaineit's not a fix by means, but it gives me a consistent set of bs_sched's for each boot16:52
slaineso far :)16:52
lbtslaine: where?16:52
slaineI logged a bug about it and included a patch16:53
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Stskeepslbt: if i show you python tools/ obs-projects/Core-old/packages.xml obs-projects/Core/packages.xml"16:57
Stskeepswill you be able to make it yourself?16:57
StskeepsCore-old is at a given old tag, Core is at new one16:57
lbtOK, I'll take a look16:57
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* lbt wonder what sound a tipped-over cow makes?17:01
Stskeepslbt: mooophhh17:01
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SageStskeeps: looks good17:03
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* Stskeeps hates "going 48 hours abroad and can't figure out which of his tablets or netbook or laptop to take along:"17:09
lbtStskeeps: theoretically that should be :   python tools/ obs-projects/Core/ <REL-tagA> <REL-tagB>17:11
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Stskeepslbt: yes, i just didn't get very far with the git handling17:11
lbtOK - checking comprehension generally17:11
Stskeeps(read: i totally agree)17:11
lbtupdatestorm has been running quite a while btw... (would have been running longer but my cut'n'paste missed pasting the last <return> :/ )17:13
Stskeepswe can make updates storms a bit more intelligent in mds217:14
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lbtStskeeps:  < sanity check please17:20
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Stskeepseglibc not egclib , and eglibc 2.15 (previously we were at glibc 2.13)17:22
Stskeepsfeedback on footprint impact welcome, as i haven't really customized the locales list17:24
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