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| tripzero | hmm | 01:41 |
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| tripzero | vgrade, this thing doesn' charge so well | 01:41 |
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| wmarone | Error <mount>: Failed to unmap partitions for '/dev/loop0' | 02:05 |
| wmarone | oh, no wonder | 02:09 |
| wmarone | tiny partition is tiny | 02:09 |
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| wmarone | :/ | 03:48 |
| wmarone | Error <mount>: Error creating ext4 filesystem on disk /dev/loop01 | 03:48 |
| wmarone | y u no play nice, mic | 03:48 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: can I start matchbox before qtmediahub, and after Xorg ? | 06:51 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: sure, instead of qtmediahub in /usr/share/xsessions/ , have matchbox there, and move qtmediahub to /etc/xdg/autostart/ | 06:53 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yeah, can I use a systemd service ? | 06:55 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: but Xorg is started by uxlaunch in its source code | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | nah, it's a bit difference format | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | so | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | uxlaunch starts Xorg, and then inside that starts the 'session' in /usr/share/xsessions/ (usually window manager), then looks into /etc/xdg/autostart/ for .desktop files to start | 06:56 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: ok | 06:56 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: in your opinion, is there some good academic research points in mer? | 07:08 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: i think so, but it isn't only mer, linux at a whole too | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: much of the things might qualify over in software engineering instead though | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | as it's very much about practical implementation of theory | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | human-computer interaction studies on how developers build linux devices, or research into test methods, for example | 07:10 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: because I have to do some academic research except lots of practical work | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | the 'first' Mer (long ago), was made to make it easier to for example do prototypes for helping patients in their homes | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | as part of a research programme at my university | 07:12 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yeah, | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | i think there's quite a lot of interesting possibilities for research, in fact, i consider most of my Mer work experimental and research, except i don't publish papers about it | 07:13 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yes, thank you for your suggestion | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | there's for sure software architecture topics | 07:14 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: maybe software architecture is a hard topic for publishing papers | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 07:15 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: It seems many people insist that academic research must have math with it. | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | well, that is after all what computer science is based upon.. but for some areas like human-computer interaction, ubiquitious computing, etc, the requirement isn't that strong | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | the hot topics are putting computer science together with other disciplines, like medicine, or design, etc | 07:18 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yes | 07:19 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: anyway ,thank you for your helpful suggestions | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | no problem, i was working at university in a research group for 5 years when i was a student, so i still think in similar ways :) | 07:25 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yeah | 07:27 |
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| Sage | is the missing packages for next already fixed btw? | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | we'll prolly do another prerelease to fix it uop | 08:01 |
| Sage | k | 08:02 |
| Sage | how does /usr/lib/rpm/find-lang.sh work? | 08:05 |
| Sage | is that part of rpmlint? | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | no, rpm config i would think | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | or rpm itself | 08:06 |
| Sage | hmmp... I'm confused as it has never failed like this before: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=zypper&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7l&repository=Mer_Core-next_i586 | 08:08 |
| Sage | ah | 08:08 |
| Sage | my bad | 08:08 |
| Sage | anyone want to try out newer zypper on Mer? :) | 08:11 |
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| lbt | morning all | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 08:34 |
| lbt | I don't think OBS developers develop new features... I think they invent new failure modes... | 08:35 |
| lbt | it's like doing cryptic crosswords | 08:35 |
| lbt | obscure clues | 08:35 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: began working on http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Architecture | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: this will obviously be more expanded | 08:37 |
| lbt | *nod* | 08:38 |
| lbt | I suggest the links should go to gitweb | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | i think diagrams will | 08:39 |
| lbt | OK | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | how are we if we waanted to start doing roadmapping utilizing bugzilla? | 08:45 |
| lbt | is it the right tool ? | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | well, we're revolving around tasks and bugs => content for releases | 08:46 |
| lbt | roadmapping is more fluid | 08:46 |
| lbt | or rather | 08:46 |
| lbt | roadmapping that's not fluid goes wrong | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 08:47 |
| lbt | I liked the moveable tree concept in BAYOT | 08:48 |
| lbt | I used to do a lot of work on requirements management | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | speaking of which, think BAYOT would be good for Mer? (i don't have opinions either way), just discussing | 08:50 |
| lbt | There were elements of it that I liked | 08:50 |
| lbt | BAYOT as we used it was a team tool towards smallish goals | 08:51 |
| lbt | and I've thought from time-to-time that our bugs can't be grouped easily | 08:52 |
| lbt | it could help with medium tasks that need work on a few areas | 08:53 |
| lbt | eg the "OBS=>sb2" has some breadth | 08:53 |
| lbt | so does "New Versioning system" | 08:53 |
| lbt | right now we attack them piecemeal | 08:53 |
| lbt | OTOH my brain is screaming at me to fix a "Errorcode: unknown; Message: HTTP session not yet started" error in OBS ... :) | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | that one is really irritating :P | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117 | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | didn't we accomplish this somehow? | 08:57 |
| lbt | mmm | 08:57 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK has some but sadly: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:Mic | 08:58 |
| lbt | has more that really needs editing | 08:58 |
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| lbt | eglibc is a good one | 09:18 |
| dm8tbr | same network, yeah | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i think a lot of stuff can really be lumped into 'catch up to all the work that didn't go into meego 1.3', in terms of upgrades, etc | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | ie, remove the cobwebs | 09:19 |
| lbt | eglibc is a "sytem" goal (if we push the SW stack to system) to meet the feature of linaro compatibility which addresses the "how" of "support ARM"... | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:20 |
| lbt | looking at these (few) goals should help us prioritise too | 09:20 |
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| lbt | I agree - and "staying current" is a feature level goal too | 09:21 |
| lbt | stategy goal of "supporting bleeding edge technology" or some such wording | 09:21 |
| lbt | drives our need to be current | 09:22 |
| lbt | this conflicts with IVI btw... oops | 09:22 |
| lbt | and I've seen this kind of debate eat a weeks time (at an 'offsite') for well over 50 people | 09:23 |
| lbt | and it still felt like we hadn't covered it all | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | :nod; | 09:24 |
| lbt | so "good enough" is a crucial point | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | "goal to be secure" as well, fwiw | 09:24 |
| lbt | that's probably quite a low goal - feature level | 09:25 |
| lbt | although marketing matters | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | well, my overarching goal is to make the damn best core for building products with :) | 09:27 |
| lbt | *cough* | 09:28 |
| lbt | 'core' ? | 09:28 |
| lbt | MDS, SB2, OBS, BOSS .... | 09:28 |
| lbt | 'solution' ? | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | well, ok, solution is better | 09:28 |
| lbt | I kinda love strategy statements ... condensing the dreams of a whole group of people into a meaningful goal where every word means something is fun | 09:29 |
| lbt | OTOH it can be a bit of a waste of time :) | 09:30 |
| lbt | and "solution" is a crap word | 09:30 |
| vgrade | morning | 09:31 |
| lbt | hey vgrade | 09:31 |
| vgrade | another loop sdk issue last night, wmarone | 09:31 |
| lbt | vgrade: this is good - soon someone will start to itch.... | 09:31 |
| vgrade | i've too much on to look | 09:32 |
| lbt | vgrade: I can't reproduce | 09:32 |
| vgrade | yea, | 09:33 |
| lbt | http://plasmasturm.org/log/6debug/ | 09:33 |
| vgrade | weird thats the second time i've seen that in two days, w00t posted it on g+ I think | 09:34 |
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| lbt | that's where I got the link :) | 09:42 |
| lbt | and it made me think of this problem | 09:42 |
| lbt | anyhow..... back to OBS | 09:42 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, yes reference kernel and also arm has historic kernel driver source | 09:43 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, I was looking at it from the other side :) | 09:43 |
| vgrade | updating the userspace | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: yeah, i was just thinking that the libs from amlogic must be the ones matching their kernel | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | so that should be transplantable | 09:44 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, sure, on the list. Its good to talk | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: now that phaeron is back, i think next week for me (given i'm away tuesday-thursday) will be MDS2 so we can get that rolling | 09:46 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: OK - now that will need to be run on server so can you start with packaging and add code to that | 10:00 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: right | 10:02 |
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| Stskeeps | and a bunch of test cases with curl and testrunner.. | 10:04 |
| lbt | actually - just a few test cases is fine - better would be less test cases and notes on how to add more | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:05 |
| lbt | (and the framework of course) | 10:05 |
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| Stskeeps | so just to keep track, what are you active with atm? (my memory is a bit weak this week) | 10:09 |
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| lbt | Main thing 'today' is OBS packaging - I'm trying to automate a multi-system deployment test | 10:26 |
| lbt | also redo the release before bed tonight - either republish or 0.0.2 | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | i think 0.0.2 tbh | 10:27 |
| lbt | OK - I'm out this afternoon - so 6pm-> | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | me too, dinner at mother n law's.. | 10:28 |
| lbt | I have to get some docs up about how we handle donations to support machines so I can point our benefactors at them | 10:29 |
| lbt | (we're waiting for the account setup ... online != quick !!) | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | and i guess we should discuss how to deal with the existing servers | 10:29 |
| lbt | yeah - get a new one and migrate off old ones, then reset | 10:30 |
| lbt | and actually it's mainly monster | 10:30 |
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| lbt | I didn't play with the gerrit publishing yet either | 10:31 |
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| lbt | the problem is "it works, leave it alone" :) | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | well, it's possible to transfer srvers too | 10:32 |
| lbt | oh, you meant in the hetzner sense ? | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:33 |
| lbt | Until we get a legal entity it doesn't matter | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, ok | 10:33 |
| lbt | and it turns out one of the guys at tango is a lawyer who knows about such things | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | tango? | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | why did i think that was a open source project or something.. | 10:34 |
| lbt | *g* | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: btw, community obs legal seperation thing, theoretically it only matters to me that FE/BE is 'seperate', workers as such aren't the ones doing the publishing | 10:36 |
| lbt | true | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | i thought that may simplify matters a bit | 10:37 |
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| lbt | I think we have "Mer Project" and "Mer Collaboration" as the two "organisations" | 10:40 |
| lbt | I think they have a 1:1 mapping at the human level | 10:40 |
| lbt | I should have said: I think we have "Mer Project" and "Mer Co-operative" as the two "organisations" | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 10:41 |
| * Stskeeps has to go | 10:41 | |
| lbt | although no, that's not right either | 10:41 |
| lbt | anyhow... | 10:41 |
| lbt | l8r then | 10:41 |
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| vgrade | lbt, you have the bank account up now? | 11:07 |
| vgrade | sry did not read enough | 11:08 |
| lbt | no problem - we're not having capacity problems just yet and I'm still wanting to make a solid decision on how to proceed | 11:11 |
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| Stskeeps | hello hARSHU | 11:53 |
| hARSHU | whats happening guys | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | not much, ongoing development | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | so what brings you here to #mer? | 11:54 |
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| hARSHU | well, i was searching for more information on upcoming rumored meego devices by nokia and following various links i landed up here ! :) | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, we're not related to that, but many of us worked on meego | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | so the only gossip to be found here is dry discussions of technical things :) | 12:01 |
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| dm8tbr | too bad he left already | 12:49 |
| dm8tbr | we could have pointed him to _today's_ Nokia press release in which they repent, abandon MS and go full out MeeGo and that MeltMeCheese | 12:50 |
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| Anssi138 | ah.. the good old times when open meant source, not APIs that are very controlled. | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: nono, go full out Mer ;) | 13:02 |
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| Anssi138 | http://www.iterm2.com/ | 13:05 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: ah, right, thanks for correcting me :) | 13:05 |
| Anssi138 | /me wants | 13:05 |
| dm8tbr | does it allow me to 'killall -9 facebook' or 'slay facebook'? ;) | 13:07 |
| Anssi138 | only if you run local facebook | 13:10 |
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| Stskeeps | hello konni :) | 13:42 |
| konni | hey Stskeeps ;) | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 13:45 |
| konni | i wanted to see whats going on here | 13:45 |
| konni | sounds like a fun project and i'd like to try it... wondering if i could somehow manage to get it booting on my nexus one | 13:46 |
| konni | (of course not completely, but well... ^^) | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | should be possible, can you boot a rootfs of own choice, kernel over 2.6.32? | 13:46 |
| konni | jep... i had meego running already | 13:47 |
| konni | if you can call that running | 13:47 |
| konni | but it booted anyway... | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 13:47 |
| konni | wondering what controls the startup... so that i can maybe get adb up | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, for some interfaces proper 3d accel is really needed | 13:47 |
| konni | well the nexus one has hw acceleration now | 13:48 |
| konni | not sure if thats any help... and i think its a really long shot | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: you'd need hw accel that works under glibc | 13:48 |
| konni | but getting it to boot and being able to adb into it would be nice already | 13:48 |
| konni | i'd really like something open on my phone... wondering if it's still worth to get a n9 | 13:54 |
| konni | or wait if there will ever be a tizen device | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | it's a quite nice phone, at least | 13:54 |
| konni | but pretty expensive for the hardware you get | 13:54 |
| dm8tbr | there's also that whole boot-to-gecko thing. not very stable yet. I managed to make the emulator unstable by hard rebooting it... | 13:55 |
| konni | i saw the boot-to-gecko on the german cebit | 13:55 |
| dm8tbr | the N9 is down to about 300€ in .fi | 13:55 |
| konni | running on a SGS2 | 13:55 |
| konni | its hardly more than an unstable web browser running on a slightly altered android | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | welcome to modern mobile systems ;) | 13:56 |
| konni | hehe | 13:56 |
| dm8tbr | well the benefit of going with the fastest growing linux based platform as a base is hard to disprove | 14:01 |
| dm8tbr | they get to recycle SGX/EGL drivers, RIL, other hw adaptation bits etc | 14:01 |
| konni | and what platform would that be? | 14:02 |
| _av500_ | meego! | 14:02 |
| dm8tbr | konni: android? | 14:02 |
| dm8tbr | _av500_: that's the fastest burning one ;) | 14:02 |
| konni | i've been using android for over two years now, it's always the same when a new version is released... slow painfull update process and just one year old devices get left behind... | 14:05 |
| konni | but i'm sure you had that discussion plenty of times ;) | 14:06 |
| konni | if i may ask, how well does mer perform on the n9? | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | quite well, but it's not a harmattan replacement | 14:07 |
| dm8tbr | Nemo+Mer runs quite nicely | 14:07 |
| konni | Stskeeps what's missing for that? | 14:07 |
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| Stskeeps | konni, the handset ui (nemo) isn't complete, hardware adaptation (external to nemo) is not complete.. but for experiments and hacking it's perfectly fine | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | er, external to mer | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | n900 is probably the most complete hw adaptation you'd find in handset sense | 14:09 |
| konni | okay i see... | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | if you want a open phone there are compromises | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: is SDE out yet btw? | 14:11 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: poke _av500_ and see him cringe... | 14:11 |
| konni | what about tizen? the things that were announced sound promising | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: i'll leave that for a day when i need to see _av500_ cringe | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | konni: source's there, beta release | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | konni: everything sounds promising when announced but waiting to see things manifest (same goes for mer) | 14:13 |
| konni | but i want a device to play with ;) | 14:13 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 14:13 |
| Stskeeps | we'll see when we see a tizen product | 14:13 |
| konni | whenever that may be | 14:14 |
| dm8tbr | so far I've seen Mer based things on more products than Tizen | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. but otoh we have the luxury of not having to hide anything | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | when i see mer out of box on some hardware, i'll be happy | 14:17 |
| konni | same here... spark tablet maybe | 14:18 |
| konni | oh... they renamed it to vivaldi now... | 14:19 |
| dm8tbr | so far it's a tough race between vivaldi and gen9 for public availability - and yes I know the latter will only run through SDE... | 14:20 |
| konni | excuse me, SDE is? | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | i still wonder if linux would have existed if linus had gotten pestered when we'd see linux products | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:21 |
| dm8tbr | hrhr | 14:21 |
| dm8tbr | konni: SpecialDeveloperEdition, Archos lingo for 'open boot-loader' | 14:21 |
| konni | okay, thanks! | 14:22 |
| _av500_ | dm8tbr: soon | 14:24 |
| _av500_ | Stskeeps: ^^^ | 14:24 |
| _av500_ | Stskeeps: and its your fault of course | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | _av500_: it's always my fault ;) | 14:26 |
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| CosmoHill | brains.... | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | wb | 17:52 |
| lbt | CosmoHill: no, #meego is the zombie channel ... here we're "bringers of light" | 17:53 |
| * dm8tbr throws lbt and CosmoHill a light-bulb each | 17:54 | |
| CosmoHill | yay | 17:54 |
| lbt | LED I hope? | 17:55 |
| CosmoHill | energy saving right? | 17:55 |
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| wmarone | hmm | 18:01 |
| wmarone | so feeding this: http://pastie.org/3710067 | 18:01 |
| wmarone | into mic gets me this: /bin/cp: cannot create directory `/var/cache/meego-bootstrap/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages': No such file or directory | 18:01 |
| lbt | wmarone: using the SDK ? | 18:02 |
| wmarone | sdk gives me loopback errors (can't format the disk) | 18:02 |
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| lbt | yeah - that's a pain; and I can't reproduce to debug | 18:02 |
| lbt | waiting for some smart+helpful user | 18:02 |
| lbt | hint, hint... | 18:03 |
| wmarone | well, I've got a perfect reproduction here :) | 18:03 |
| wmarone | let me swap over to my other VM | 18:03 |
| CosmoHill | lbt: I'm neither smart or helpful | 18:03 |
| lbt | CosmoHill: true | 18:03 |
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| wmarone | ok | 18:10 |
| CosmoHill | I'm not used to this format, what is it? | 18:11 |
| wmarone | lbt: vm's up, let me confirm it still acts up | 18:11 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: are we good for a .0.0.2 ? | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok | 18:12 |
| wmarone | lbt: error I'm seeing is Error <mount>: Bind-mounting './cache' to '/var/tmp/mic/imgcreate-Lh2780/install_root//var/cache/yum' failed | 18:14 |
| lbt | wmarone: so is this the latest SDK ? | 18:15 |
| wmarone | yes, grabbed it yesterday | 18:15 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: any changes since 0.0.1 | 18:18 |
| lbt | to project-core? | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | no, same | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | tag anyway | 18:19 |
| lbt | just sanity checkin | 18:19 |
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| lbt | wmarone: are you around for a while? I need to get some food started and get this release out? | 18:28 |
| wmarone | sure | 18:28 |
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| wmarone | brb | 18:35 |
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| wmarone | back | 19:01 |
| faktorqm | hello everybody, I have an N900 with the latest build of MER running from a microSD. In order to do a upgrade I did, zypper ref | 19:06 |
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| faktorqm | but nothing happends, so, when I press ctrl + c, the program says | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | faktorqm: it takes a bit of time to connect and fetch | 19:07 |
| faktorqm | download (curl) error for 'http://repo.pub.meego.balblablabla" error code: user abort error message: callback aborted | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | are you on wifi or 3g? | 19:08 |
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| faktorqm | Hello Stskeeps! thanks you, I will wait | 19:08 |
| faktorqm | wifi sie | 19:08 |
| faktorqm | sir | 19:08 |
| faktorqm | another question, how I can get the symbols in the terminal windows (previously I got that pressing alt + ctrl in maemo) | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | try iwconfig wlan0 power off as root before zypper up and see if that helps | 19:10 |
| faktorqm | or I have only the soft keyb? | 19:11 |
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| faktorqm | oh! Now it says "repository 'ce_adaptation-n900' is up to date' Timeout exceeded when accesing "http://repo.pub.meego.blablalba" it seems to be a repo problem not a connection problem. anyway, there is a way to download that files in some location and then try again with zypper? | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | just try again | 19:14 |
| faktorqm | ok | 19:14 |
| vgrade | hey CosmoHill, | 19:16 |
| CosmoHill | hey dude | 19:16 |
| CosmoHill | Reading vs Leeds Friday | 19:16 |
| vgrade | Reading going well this season | 19:16 |
| vgrade | :) | 19:16 |
| vgrade | bring you down a few points | 19:16 |
| vgrade | whats happened to your team | 19:17 |
| CosmoHill | my friend explained the scoring on saturday | 19:17 |
| vgrade | we sacked our manager for some reason now we're lower than we were before | 19:17 |
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| CosmoHill | we sacks ours and now we've had several great seasons :) | 19:18 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: release done - check of all packages dirs shows zypper-log*rpm | 19:53 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, that should be OK | 19:54 |
| lbt | and... fwiw I used 'up-arrow' with a change to the "export REL=" line ... so I don't know what happened to 0.0.1 | 19:55 |
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| CosmoHill | good program about Group B rallying in bbc4 | 20:34 |
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| Venemo | hey guys :) | 20:38 |
| CosmoHill | hello | 20:38 |
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| Venemo | have you seen Plasma Active lately? | 20:38 |
| Venemo | I can't figure out why, but it seems to have gone even worse | 20:42 |
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| wmarone | hmm, so my cache mount issue was because it was located on a bind mount | 22:17 |
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| lbt | wmarone: sorry, I've been absolutely stuck on a problem | 22:36 |
| wmarone | that's fine, I haven't been able to get the loopback issue to occur again | 22:36 |
| lbt | turns out resolv.conf was 640 | 22:36 |
| lbt | all the pings and lookups worked fine as root | 22:36 |
| lbt | but when running as wwwrun ... no DNS... | 22:37 |
| lbt | what a bitch | 22:37 |
| lbt | wmarone: OK, so the SDK makes heavy (and complex) use of bind mounts | 22:37 |
| wmarone | yes | 22:37 |
| lbt | it *should* work | 22:38 |
| lbt | I suspect there will be a few corner cases - I'd like to be able to check for them in the script | 22:38 |
| lbt | we've already hit things like usb drives being mounted nosetuid | 22:39 |
| lbt | so how did you resolve the cache problem ? | 22:39 |
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| wmarone | I moved the cache to /var/ in the sdk filesystem | 22:41 |
| wmarone | somewhere not a bind mount point | 22:41 |
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| lbt | so where was it? /home/wmarone/cache ? | 22:42 |
| wmarone | effectively yes | 22:42 |
| lbt | following this? | 22:43 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Sharing_mic_and_osc_caches | 22:43 |
| wmarone | hm, not doing that | 22:44 |
| wmarone | but I also haven't done anything with osc in the sdk yet | 22:44 |
| wmarone | all mic so far | 22:45 |
| lbt | OK | 22:45 |
| lbt | I'm asking simply so we can put something in the wiki | 22:45 |
| wmarone | yeah | 22:45 |
| lbt | were you using the mic --cache command line option | 22:45 |
| wmarone | yes ( -k ) | 22:46 |
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| vgrade | seems like that loop issue is a one only issue for people | 23:01 |
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| vgrade | one time only | 23:05 |
| vgrade | hey ash | 23:06 |
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