Thursday, 2012-03-22

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* timoph yawns04:52
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Stskeepslike clockwork, my brain wakes me up at 6:30am05:31
Stskeepsalmost scary :P05:31
berndhsi usually wake up 10 mins before my alarm clock is set05:31
berndhsi hate the soud05:31
berndhssound05:32
berndhsStskeeps: i see you making good progress, with the tools and some commercial efforts based on mer05:34
Stskeepsyeah, starting to look good now05:34
berndhsim distracted by this working for a living stuff, but im not giving up :)05:34
berndhstaking me too long to get organized :(05:35
berndhsi work for ICS now05:36
berndhsthey sent me to the left coast05:36
Stskeepsoh cool05:36
berndhsyeah, its warmer back in canada the last 3 day than in orange county :)05:37
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berndhsbut really, this is a step forward for me, just have to get organized so I can do more things than just work05:38
Stskeepsjust be happy you have work :)05:38
berndhswork sucks, income is good :)05:39
* Stskeeps thinks he'll take one-two more hours of sleep05:39
Stskeepsbbl05:39
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berndhsis decent work, really05:42
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E-PMorning06:05
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berndhsE-P: evening06:14
E-P:)06:14
berndhsim going to sleep06:16
berndhsgood night everyone06:16
E-Pgood night06:16
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timophE-P: o/06:28
* timoph sees even more meego qa tools people appearing here :)06:29
E-Ptimoph: \o how are you?06:30
timophnot bad06:30
timophtoo busy with work06:30
E-Pcommon problem06:31
timophwe're using test assest and tools for meego so good to have you around too :)06:33
E-PI heard something like that06:34
E-PI could help with the testing process and automation06:34
timophthe help is very welcome06:34
timophwe talked about making things runnable manually first06:35
timophbut getting automation running after that shouldn't be too hard06:35
E-Pso at the moment there is no testing or infra for testing?06:35
timophthere's some but I'm not too familiar with the setup06:35
E-Pok06:36
timophlbt and Stskeeps should be able to tell more06:36
E-PI have been following the meetings and discussion around here to get more info how the things are done06:37
timophyeah. the best way is to ask if something is unclear :)06:37
timophpeople tend to be very helpfull here06:37
E-Pyes, I have noticed that06:38
E-PI think we can get good test base from BLTS tests06:39
timophyeah06:39
timophdunno if there's unresolved issues in the public version though06:39
E-Pand we can make "free" changes to the tools now :)06:39
timoph:D06:39
timophyeah. I moved the execution tool to another repo just the other day06:40
timophjust to make sure they won't disappear06:40
timophtools that is06:40
timophtr-lite, definition and kyranto's graphical tools06:41
E-Pgood, maybe we should to the same for all the tools06:41
timophwould make sense06:41
E-Peven if we don't use them now06:41
timophots with mer should be an interesting excersice06:42
timophtrue06:42
timophyou never know06:42
timophStskeeps backed up the media test data from testdata.meego.com06:42
E-PI think OTS would work nicely for basic testing06:43
timophand that's pretty much what we need06:43
timophmaking sure that Mer core works06:43
E-PI agree06:43
timophso doing ci/release testing for it06:43
* timoph goes out for some air. brb06:44
E-Pare there some officially supported platforms where the tests should be run? like n900, panda, beagle?06:44
E-Ps/platforms/hardwares06:46
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timophthat's the thing. what hw to use06:55
timophone thing would be run test in the sdk chroot06:56
timophiirc tr-lite should support running things in chroot06:56
E-Pyes it does, ots supports that too06:56
timophso that would be a good place to start since it doesn't require hw06:57
E-Phw testing requires also additional hardware, like switchboxes06:57
timophyep and we don't have those06:58
timophso some additional tricks are required06:58
timophI wonder if they still make the boxed06:58
timophthose weren't cheap but..06:58
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timophboxes even06:59
E-Pno idea06:59
E-Pthat was nice concept06:59
timophor if there's someone inside nokia that could donate a couple of those if they're not using those anymore06:59
iekkuno such contacts to nokia anymore :(07:01
iekkui think tampere devices went to tallinn anyways07:01
timophhttp://www.optofidelity.com/en/test-automation/meego/07:02
E-Panyway, we can start with chroot or virtual image testing07:02
timophyep07:02
timophah. true since vm images are now possible07:03
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timophimo one device to do tests with will be the plasma active tablet once it's available07:05
timophvivaldi07:05
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E-Pwe can ask from Teemu if he would make the power switch modification to the tablet ;)07:06
timoph:)07:06
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vgradehttp://linuxfestnorthwest.org/session/plasma-activevivaldi-tablet-truly-open-os-mobile-devices07:19
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E-Pnice07:22
timophvery cool07:23
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pdanekmerproject.net trans. is done07:28
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timophE-P: so how about we start by setting up the toolchain to do something with the sdk and document the setup so anyone can do the same.07:43
timophsingle machine setup that is07:43
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timophat least I plan on doing it with a virtual machine07:44
E-Pthat sounds good07:44
timoph(been meaning to do it the whole week but short in time)07:44
timophyeah. run some simple tests with it07:45
timophe.g. testing that that cross compilers work07:45
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E-PI have also much stuff to do and so less time, but i can try something out during the weekend07:45
timophok. I should have some time this evening07:46
timophI'll document what I come up with07:46
E-PFirst I have to recall how to create images and all the basic stuff07:46
timophthe image creationg is a bit different07:47
timophnot much07:47
* saunabad is having a deja vu07:47
timoph:)07:47
saunabadhi E-P o/07:48
timophbeen having those often lately here :)07:48
E-PI had to /wii the saunabad.. now I know who you are!07:48
timoph:)07:49
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saunabad:)07:49
E-Phow it is going?07:50
InformatiQif I want to act as a mer vendor07:50
InformatiQis there a wiki page that instructs what to do?07:50
iekkuhi InformatiQ :)07:50
InformatiQwhich OBS? how to get sb2 in my obs07:50
InformatiQand so on07:50
InformatiQhttp://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mer_Delivery_System07:51
InformatiQseems to be mentioning everything but the OBS part07:51
InformatiQieatlint: morjenz07:51
InformatiQiekku: morjenz07:51
timophhmmh. http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page#Vendors only says "If you're interested in why Mer is right for you then please approach Carsten Munk or David Greaves. We'll be putting some material up that should focus on the benefits that Mer offers."07:51
InformatiQah the tab completion07:51
iekkusaunabad, oh, it's you (/wii helped)07:52
E-Ptimoph: where are you going to document your findings?07:52
InformatiQis there a munk or a greaves around07:52
timophE-P: wiki.merproject.org - we might want to create a new page for QA there though07:52
timophE-P: there is already http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Test_process07:53
timophbut not so much about TA, etc.07:53
timophI started migrating tools info from meego wiki the other day07:54
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timophusing my user wiki page as a staging area07:54
E-Pgreat07:54
timophhave to think a bit how to organize the QA stuff to the wiki07:55
timophthere's quite a bit of that info07:55
StskeepsInformatiQ: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_Setup is the right guide07:56
Stskeepsif there's problems, feel free to ask in here07:58
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StskeepsE-P: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK08:00
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E-PStskeeps: thanks. Have you modified/transferred the MCTS tests or are you using the source from meego git?08:03
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StskeepsE-P: very very tiny patches to make them build on modern gcc/binutils, get an account on webui-ci.tspre.org and look at devel:quality(:tests)08:05
E-Pok, I will08:06
Stskeepswe changed some thing so if you use a symbol from libX11, you have to implicit link to it08:07
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Stskeepsmorn mdfe, did your mesa problem go away?08:17
mdfe_yes, by adding prevers inside project config08:18
Stskeepsok08:18
mdfe_thanks08:18
Stskeepsit's a bit awkward that it didn't resolve itself when mesa was wipebinarie'd08:18
mdfe_yep08:19
mdfe_no idea why the obs do not forget about it08:19
Stskeepsyes, i think we saw same problem in sage's project too08:20
mdfe_are you familar with obs user roles?08:22
Stskeepswell, nothing i can't google08:22
Stskeepswhat's up?08:22
mdfe_I'm thinking about an anonymous user for PA which is able to build via osc localy without account08:23
mdfe_there is a 'Downloader' role08:24
Stskeepsah.. that won't work like you think it would08:25
mdfe_bleh08:25
mdfe_so there is no way to build va osc without account?08:26
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Stskeepsi've considered at times to make a kinda proxy thing that enables you to do that08:26
Stskeepsthe api is pretty simple so08:26
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mdfe_sounds promising08:27
Stskeepsbut it's one of those things i never really found time for :P08:28
mdfe_I know what you mean08:28
StskeepsInformatiQ: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_Setup is the right guide , if there's problems, inquire within here08:29
Stskeepserr08:29
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mdfe_thanks08:36
mdfe_ls08:38
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Stskeepsmorn slaine08:45
slainemorn Stskeeps08:45
slainemorn all08:45
* slaine recaps on where he got to yesterday08:46
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* slaine decides that coffee is a good first step08:48
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Stskeepsfeck, qemu still has a problem with atomics09:48
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slaineNice to see 'feck' making it into international english usage09:51
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slaineWe probably have Father Ted to thank for spreading the word09:51
lbtmorning all09:52
Stskeepsmorn lbt09:52
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E-Pmorning09:52
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slainemorning lbt10:02
slaineWhen you're coffees and ready, I've a couple of questions on setting up the obs worker vm10:02
slainecoffeed10:02
Stskeepslbt: i think we'll have to push eglibc 2.15 to +2w10:03
Stskeepslbt: i just ran into atomics not beign fixed in qemu, so we're seeing ./configure lockups10:04
lbt*nod*10:04
lbtfocus on Qt5 then10:04
lbtBostik should like that :10:04
lbt)10:04
BostikI'm about to break :Qt5:Devel with a new upload, mind you :)10:05
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StskeepsBostik: how much will you beat me if i ask if you can rename to qt5base ?10:05
Bostikaiee10:05
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BostikStskeeps: if you want this done by release next week, I'll probably ignore the request because it *will* have domino effects which I can't anticipate10:07
Stskeepswell, i think at the moment the best thing is to get things into review10:08
Stskeepsso not a high priority one10:08
Stskeepsin practice apps should rely on pkgconfig anyway10:08
lbtis it worth getting the broken Qt into review?10:08
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Stskeepsit's worth getting qtbase into review asap, yes10:09
Stskeepsbut best to be closest to what bostik has10:09
lbtqtbase isn't a package atm10:09
Stskeepshuh?10:09
Stskeeps:P10:09
lbtnm - having too many chats in too many windows10:11
StskeepsBostik: either way, i think we should make it a goal to get qtbase into review when we can, then we can get everything properly looked over, inline commented, etc10:11
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StskeepsBostik: mer-core/qtbase git repo created10:13
BostikStskeeps: aye, the build hack needs to be cleaned up in any case10:13
Stskeepsyep10:13
BostikI'll have to read up a bit to digest how mer does these package voodoo spells10:14
Stskeepsif you run into any issues, feel free to prod me10:16
Bostikoh I will10:16
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lbtsry - bank called about nfp account :)10:16
lbtso Bostik was saying we need to do an update pull from upstream to try to resolve ... qtjsbackend10:17
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slaineWho much pain will it be to repackage qtbase as qt5base after it's gone into review10:18
Stskeepsin practice it shouldn't matter much10:18
slainewouldn't it make more sense to hold off putting it in review until that has changed, rather than going through the whole review again for a package name change.10:18
lbtI'd like to see it go through the automated review asap10:19
slainek10:19
lbtthat way we know how long it takes and if there are any issues10:19
slainelbt, change of track then, obs worker setup.10:20
lbthowever - Stskeeps may say he knows all that from qt and that's OK too10:20
lbtslaine: yep...10:20
slaineThe wiki has a reference to adding a repo, that should probably be removed in favor of the repo that's added at the head of the wiki article, as the one in question here is mostly empty10:20
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slaineSecondly, after installing the obs-worker package, I don't have an /etc/sysconfig/obs-worker config file to edit10:21
lbtooh10:21
slaineListing the rpm package contents does show a template for an obs-server file, /var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.obs-server10:22
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* lbt sends phaeron *another* get well soon card10:26
slainelbt, I assume obs-server is what the wiki was referring to, and obs-worker was a mistake ?10:29
slaineand I can copy the template to /etc/sysconfig/ and get modifying.10:29
lbtthis feels wrong10:30
lbtit's *way* too hacky10:30
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lbtslaine: I'm sorry about this - last time I ran through these instructions it was really smooth10:32
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slaine lbt, that's why it's good I'm doing it now :)10:32
slainedon't be sorry, stuff changes, we move, we adapt, we fix10:32
lbttrue10:32
lbtright ... so I see it's adding Mer:Tools to the worker10:33
lbtthat's for our qemu10:34
lbtand it should be Tools:Testing for now10:34
slaineNod, there's nothing in Mer:Tools10:34
slaineSo, I removed that and added the one mentioned at the top of the page, Tools:testing iirc10:35
lbtthat's actually the OBS one10:35
lbtyou need both10:35
slaineAh, I see10:36
lbtso I wonder if there was a bug in the worker post- file10:36
lbt... doorbell ...bbias10:36
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slaineI didn't see any, I'll kick of a reinstall10:36
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slaineDoes zypper have an equivalent of yum reinstall ?10:41
Bostikdoes it honor "--force install" ?10:43
timophafaik you can use zypper in -f <package>10:43
slaineI'll try10:44
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slainelbt, defo something up with the obs-worker package, it failed on the %preun when trying to erase it10:45
Bostikaawwwwww crap, ahma's script fixes are incomplete and my upload to :Qt5:Devel is not what it should be :/10:45
lbtslaine: OK - I'll take a look10:48
lbtslaine: let me check my task list and see what's what10:49
lbthehe ... "slides for slaine"10:49
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slainehehe10:52
slainedon't' stress too much about that10:52
slaineI'll probably be talking arch stuff mostly, and via a combination of the meego arch documents and Stskeeps presentation on mer, I think I'm good for an intro proposal10:53
slaineI'm also wanting to demo the concept by building nemo mobile for my n900 and the idea pad and passing it on.10:54
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slaineHmm, sounds like Tizen isn't going to well based on raster's comments11:16
sroedalhuh?11:17
lbtwell, we know it has been fairly stressful - sounds like he's tired and fed up with it11:18
slainenod11:18
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slainelbt, no errors on obs-worker when force installing the rpm11:25
lbtsysconfig still missing11:27
slaineit seems to get through the prein and the post install is where most of the magic happens. There is an  /etc/init.d/obsworker, but still not /etc/syconfig/11:28
slainewonder of there's an equivalent of sh -x for the rpm install11:28
lbtjust looking into it11:33
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slainelbt, actually, I never updated the repo list11:38
slaineI have Mer_OBS_Testing  added this this vm11:38
slainedidn't you mention I needed another one ?11:38
slaineIt's getting obs-worker-2.2.120.git50ef8d4-1.1.noarch.rpm witht he current repo setup.11:39
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lbthmm I see: http://repo.pub.meego.com/Mer%3a/OBS%3a/Testing%3a/Devel/openSUSE_11.4/noarch/11:41
slaineOk, so I need that and http://repo.pub.meego.com//Mer:/OBS:/Testing/openSUSE_11.4/Mer:OBS:Testing.repo11:41
slaine'cause at the moment, I'm getting obs-worker from http://repo.pub.meego.com//Mer:/OBS:/Testing/openSUSE_11.4/noarch/11:42
lbtI'm thinking to try Testing:Devel for the worker11:44
slaineseems overly complicated11:48
lbtit is11:48
lbtwell, it is for normal use11:48
slaineI assume phareon was in the middle of sorting the packaging for all this when he got sick11:48
lbtthe :Devel is for the team to share hacks and testing11:49
lbthe was11:49
lbtonce it's tried out by the team in :Devel it goes to Testing and then QA (and users if they like) can try it11:50
slaineright11:50
slaineI'll add Devel repo11:50
lbtif you use Devel and it's OK then I'll promote it to Testing11:51
slaineDamn, same problem with 2.2.12811:54
vgradeStskeeps, mdfe_, I need a mesa-dri-swrast-driver for ARM, I noticed it has been removed from KDE repos, where is the ARM package getting built now12:02
Stskeepsvgrade: you need swrast? :P12:02
vgradesorry disabled not removed12:02
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vgradeStskeeps, until I get propoer drivers yes12:03
vgradebuild it in my adaptation project?12:06
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Stskeepsyeah, that's one way12:08
vgradeis there a better way?12:09
slaineIs there a zypper equivalent to yumdownloader ?12:09
slainetrying to adjust my workflow from fedora to mer/obs12:09
slaine--download-only ?12:10
slainehmm, this version of zypper doesn't seem to support that.12:13
slainecan't even find the cached rpm12:13
slainesigh12:13
* slaine fears change12:14
lbtslaine: zypper has a download option I think12:14
lbtand /var/cache/.... for rpms12:14
slaineI checked, they weren't there12:15
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slaineeven ran a find from /12:15
int_uaLooks like there is a limit of 2 Mb for uImage on N900. Is it true?12:15
slainePerphaps later versions of zypper support --download-only, but not the version in 11.412:16
Stskeepsint_ua: probable12:16
int_uaStskeeps: BTW, Ubuntu booted :) Works with --no-log  boot kernel parameter.12:17
int_uaStskeeps: Any clue where does the limit coming from? The kernel is loaded from RAM by U-Boot, so there should be enough space available.12:18
Stskeepsint_ua: actually no, uboot should make it able to be bigger12:18
lbtslaine: /var/cache/zypp/packages/12:18
lbtas root possibly12:18
slainelbt, not, it's empty12:18
slainenod12:18
slaineeven12:18
lbterr, OK12:19
slainenot sure why12:19
slaineanyway, figured out the problem12:19
* int_ua calculates difference between 0x82000000 and 0x8300000012:20
lbtok - what did you do?12:20
slaineIt's setting SYSC_TEMPLATE as so, SYSC_TEMPLATE=/var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.obs-worker12:20
slaineHowever, there's no such file12:20
slaineit's called /var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.obs-server12:20
slaineSo it's skipping over that if block12:20
slaineI used curl to download the rpm url12:21
slainethen I ran rpm -Uvh -vv --force obs-worker-2.2.128.....12:21
lbtOK - I'll take a look at this stuff this afternoon12:22
slainethat -vv give you the shell output of the scripts12:22
slaineI can paste bin if you like12:22
lbtnah, that's enough to find the issue12:22
slainek12:22
lbtI suspect we've pulled code and not packaging changes12:22
slaineNod12:23
mdfe_vgrade: can't you take the mesa-llvmpipe-dri-swrast-driver instead?12:23
slainelbt, it looks like the upstream has moved to calling it obs-server, the old way being called obs-worker12:23
slaineThe source rpm is obs-server12:23
slainethe resulting noarch rpm is incorrectly being called obs-worker12:24
lbtdoubtful12:24
lbtobs-server makes a few packages12:24
lbteach is functionally named12:24
slaineRight, well there's a mix up in that section then12:25
lbtrepo/scheduler/publish/worker12:25
lbtOK12:25
slaine$PNAME is getting obs-worker and using that to look for the template for for sysconfig12:25
slainebut the template file is called obs-server12:25
vgrademdfe, I thought llvmpipe did not work on ARM12:29
Stskeepsit doesn't, but i wonder if we can fallback12:29
vgrademdfe_ are you using llvmpipe on G9?12:30
mdfe_at the moment yes12:30
vgradewhat repo is that comming from?12:30
mdfe_mer core12:30
vgradeok thanks12:31
mdfe_np12:31
mdfe_good luck12:32
Stskeepsmdfe_: and it works with llvmpipe?12:34
Stskeeps(is swrast dri installed, out of curiousity?012:34
slaineso I guess that means llvmpipe does work on ARM then12:35
Stskeepsif swrast dri is installed, not highly likely12:35
Stskeepsbut hey, i would like to be pleasantly surprised12:35
slaineis swrast still in the llvmpipe package as a fallback ?12:35
mdfe_Stskeeps: the ux comes up12:35
Stskeepsslaine: yeah, think so12:36
Stskeepsmdfe_: and swrast-dri is there or not?12:36
slaineThat's probably all vgrade needs then12:36
mdfe_Stskeeps: its installed on the image12:37
mdfe_http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/archos-generation-9/2012-03-21-16-49-basyskom-plasma-active-testing-mer-armv7l-archos-gen9-mmcblk1p-raw.ks12:37
Stskeepsmdfe_: ok12:38
Stskeepsso probably not 'fast' llvmpipe12:38
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Bostikholy crap, jsbackend built on all Mer targets; I'll fix the remaining immediate errors on other packages and then start cleaning up on qtbase crud13:23
Stskeepscool13:24
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Anssi138babababatmaaan13:26
lbt\o/13:26
lbtgah ... forgot to kick workers13:27
lbtdone now13:27
lbtout now ... back this evening13:29
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lbtslaine: working on OBS fyi13:29
slainelbt, great, thanks13:30
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vgradelbt, tried an image build   https://img.merproject.org/images/web/vgrade/6-20120322-133310/13:52
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vgradelbt, can you schedule builds?13:54
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harbaumi am pretty sure this has been asked before, but i can' tfind anything: is someone working with the lenovo a1? Sounds like a nice device to me15:19
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Stskeepslenovo a1.. that's the omap or qualcomm one coupled with intel cpu?15:20
mdfe_lbt: following package builds are stuck on cobs https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=perl-doc&project=home%3Akhertan&repository=Harmattan15:21
mdfe_lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=createrepo&project=home%3Aronan%3AOBS_Light%3Acreaterepo&repository=Fedora_1515:22
mdfe_do you have time to poke them?15:22
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harbaumStskeeps: from price (€159) and description at amazon i think it's just an omap4 table15:30
Stskeepshm, interesting15:31
slainenice price15:32
slainewhats the device like15:32
slainestill haven't found that 7" android tablet I want for usage and fun15:32
slainealright, I've an obs webui vm15:38
slaineI've an obs backend vm15:38
slaineand I've an obs worker vm15:38
Stskeepstime for a beer?15:39
slainelol, no, that was the easy bit15:39
slainenow I've to make it build something :)15:39
BostikStskeeps, lbt: qtbase + qtjsbackend + qtdeclarative built in :Qt5:Devel; anything which requires declarative will need updated specs, since the module's official name is now "QtQml"; I'll get to that shortly15:40
Stskeepscool15:40
Bostikpoor ahma, I didn't know what I dumped on him...15:43
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Stskeepslet me know when you want to be guided through submitting it to gerrit15:45
Bostiktomorrow, I think15:46
Bostikgot a "done last week, please" task at work...15:47
Stskeepsalright15:47
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vgradeanyone had issues with systemd-journal taking all CPU15:50
Stskeepsvgrade: well, perhaps there's something pushing a lot of entries to it15:50
vgradeis the journal new in this release15:51
mdfe_Sage_: hi, do you have shot time to give me some hints about your panadaboard adaption?15:52
slaineI see fedora have skipped it for F1815:52
vgradewhere is the journal writing its log?15:52
slainesystemd-journal that is15:53
Stskeepsvgrade: systemd-journalctl15:54
vgradethanks15:55
vgradeonly a copy of log lines going into that log per 10 seconds15:57
Stskeeps -f15:57
Stskeepsit has a follow15:57
Stskeepsand show me a pastie15:57
vgradesec, or two16:03
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vgradepolkit crash gone now though16:03
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lbtvgrade: OK - I've not tried a raw image - can you do it again using rootfs16:45
lbtBostik: OK - nice16:45
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slainelbt, simply copying the obs-server template to /etc/sysconfig and editing accordingly worked btw16:56
slainebut the package should be fixed.16:56
slaineI've to commute now16:56
lbtI suspected so16:57
slainecatch you all tomorrow16:57
lbtOK - ta16:57
slainewhere I attempt to setup my OBS system to pull from MDS and build Mer Core16:57
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vgradeStskeeps, having difficulty sending journalctrl > file, it aborts17:10
vgradebut have found If systemd-journald is running at 100% on your ARM CPU with kernel <2.6.36, apply a kernel patch to expose accept4()17:10
vgradeim on 2.6.3417:11
vgrademdfe is on > .36 on G917:11
vgradelooks at n950 kernel adaptation for accept4 patch17:12
Stskeepsgood place to look17:12
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Stskeepssubmit a bug against the adaptation kernel stuf17:19
Stskeepsf17:19
Stskeepsso we can advise for this patch17:19
vgradethis one https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=wire-up-sys_accept4-on-ARM.patch&package=kernel-adaptation-n950&project=home%3Amarquiz%3An950&rev=a5b2d07e6611a4c92035b24b89f1037d ?17:19
Stskeepsyes17:19
vgradewilco17:20
vgradenot much info about systemd-journal about17:20
vgradeIf it sorts the issue I add to adaptation wiki also17:21
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Stskeepsit's a bit of a windows-ification, but i can understand where they're going17:22
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bigbluehatStskeeps: going to hear someone speak on this next week: http://freedomboxfoundation.org/learn/18:20
bigbluehathttp://www.posscon.org/presentation/freedombox/18:20
bigbluehatthought Mer might be better for it than Debian18:20
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Stskeepsbigbluehat: well, look up who bdale garbee is and you'll understand why it's debian :)19:00
bigbluehatyeah, figured it's a "use what you know (or helped build)" sort of thing :)19:01
bigbluehatdidn't dig terribly deep as I wanted to listen next week :)19:01
Stskeeps:nod:19:01
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Stskeepslbt: congrats on the sdk release19:21
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lbtStskeeps: ty20:00
Stskeepsso what's next on the list?20:02
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lbtit sounds like our OBS packaging isn't really working - slaine had a few issues today20:02
Stskeepsyeah, sounds like it20:03
lbtphaeron has that under control and I didn't really want to context switch into it20:03
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Stskeepsyeah.. i think we need to though, in order to reduce the bus factor20:05
Stskeepsthe situation isn't good and people are deploying OBS'es20:05
lbtagreed20:05
lbtCI would have been next20:06
lbtand the disk space admin is high prio for the weekendish20:06
lbtstefan just asked about ordering a new machine20:06
lbtthat may be a good way to sort things out - but we're waiting for an call with the bank (tomorrow they said)20:07
lbtso I want all our machines to be rented via mer20:07
lbtsince the credit-card owner essentially gets root20:08
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lbtwe trust stefan ... but it becomes an exception and that's awkward20:08
Stskeepswell, perhaps it's useful for the cobs angle20:09
Stskeepsas originally intended20:09
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* Stskeeps is having a "damn, this day went by fast" day20:11
Aardit's not over yet. btw, you still didn't comment on my sd-card issue :)20:12
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mdfe_*g*20:13
Stskeepsrepeat it for me?20:13
Stskeeps:P20:13
lbtyay, I don't have a lumia and I see some N9s on eBay20:14
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mdfe_lbt could you poke tomorrow the two stuck build jobs?20:15
StskeepsAard: i've forgotten what it was you had of problem20:15
Aard20:38 < Aard> Stskeeps: I reflashed my n900 to rule out problems with my u-boot version -> I'm seeing the behaviour me20:15
Aardntioned in #92 with pr1.3 u-boot, though if I understand your comment correctly that should be a working setup20:15
Stskeepsand what kernel error do you get?20:16
Aardthat -110 error20:17
Stskeepsokay20:17
lbthmm I saw some fixes for that20:17
Stskeepsso i've encountered it myself on a couple of cards and usually it means 1) card is dead or 2) i plug it in my pc and back into n900 and it magically works again20:17
Stskeepsi've seen it with inconsistent states of the sd  card or soemthing20:18
Stskeepsbut there might be a deeper problem than that, of course20:18
lbtis this a timeout message?20:18
Stskeepsthere is a few nemo mobile bugs about this20:18
Stskeepsthinking to raise timeout, etc20:18
lbtI could be talking crap but... the ISTR seeing that the card reports a time to flush which is < the spec but it lies20:19
Aardthe card is brand new, works perfectly in my pc, and temporarily putting it in my pc does not change it20:19
StskeepsAard: bug 9220:21
Stskeepson bugs.nemomobile.org20:21
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AardStskeeps: see which bug I referenced above :)20:22
djszapilbt evening ping20:22
lbtdjszapi: o/20:22
djszapiis apps.formeego.org written in php ?20:22
djszapiis the code available somewhere ?20:22
lbtdjszapi: think so & yes - you'd need to talk to X-Fade though20:23
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StskeepsAard: so, there is some proposed patches to kernel and i don't have time to peek into them20:23
lbthttp://marc.info/?l=linux-omap&m=133154993325503&w=220:24
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AardStskeeps: reason I'm asking was a) he said those patches don't work for him, and b) you said 'you use u-boot13, that should work', and that's the setup I changed to which is not working20:28
djszapilbt okay, thanks.20:29
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StskeepsAard: yeah, if uboot pr13 fails we move on to other theories20:46
Stskeepswhich say we have kernel patches to fix20:46
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AardI'm messing around with the kernel anyway for the magnet (I want to completely simulate hardware magnet removal/insertion), so I can at least try what's floating around20:47
Stskeepsk20:47
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sebasvgrade: getting in gear here21:33
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vgradesebas, http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Vivaldi21:53
vgradesorry for the delay there is an issue which has come to light with the new systemd which I was hoping to get in before21:54
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sebasvgrade: no worries21:55
* sebas reads the wiki page21:55
vgradesebas, so you just need to download the kickstart, run the mic command21:57
sebasyep, doing that :)21:57
vgradethe guys can then write that to sdcard and add the kernel and modules21:57
lbtvgrade: you can attach a ks to the wiki21:58
vgradelbt, ok thanks, there will be an update so I'll do that next time21:59
vgradesebas, once I have the kernel packaged then there will be a new kickstart with the kernel added and then the last two steps of extracting the tarballs will not be needed22:00
sebasok22:00
sebasmic fails here with http://paste.kde.org/44484822:00
sebasand I had to install syslinux-extlinux, should I add that to the wiki page?22:01
vgradeinteresting thats the same error I got when using IMG today22:01
vgradelbt, any thoughts22:02
sebasmic doesn't use osc's rpm buildroot by default, no?22:03
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lbtmmm?22:03
sebasI vaguely recall seeing a wiki page telling how to point mic and osc to the same cache, do you know where this is?22:03
lbthttp://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Sharing_mic_and_osc_caches22:03
sebaslbt: mic failing to create an image22:04
sebassweet,  thanks22:04
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vgradelbt, working ok in my sdk btw22:04
lbtah, raw images ...22:04
lbtvgrade: raw?22:04
vgradeyes22:04
vgradebut working ok in my sdk22:05
lbtI wonder if that's good or bad :)22:05
lbtlets hope it fails in mine :)22:05
vgradesebas enough free space?22:06
sebas9.3GB on that partition22:06
sebas /tmp has at least 4.3 free22:07
lbtError <creator>: Command 'extlinux' is not available.22:07
sebaszypper in syslinux-extlinux22:08
sebasafter that, i got the above error22:08
lbtyeah - should be in the wiki page too, it's not in the SDK by default22:08
* sebas adds it22:08
lbtmaybe it should be...22:08
sebasadded to the wiki page anyway22:10
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lbthmm, worked for me too22:11
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lbtsebas: can you sudo lsmod | grep loop22:12
sebasit's empty22:12
lbtsudo modprobe loop22:12
sebasI don't have that module22:12
lbtah... that could explain it :)22:12
lbtwhat distro/kernel ?22:13
sebas zgrep LOOP /proc/config.gz                                                                                                          [23:12:38]22:13
sebasCONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m22:13
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sebasopensuse 12.1, 3.1 kernel22:13
sebasso should be there, hm22:13
lbtyep - odd22:13
vgradeI don't have loop22:14
lbt!22:14
lbtdo you have /dev/loop* ?22:14
sebasodd, it's not in the modules directory, only in the config22:15
sebasyep, quite a few loop devices22:15
lbtthat doesn't make sense to me ... :(22:16
vgradeyes lots22:16
sebasI wonder what happens if I reboot this machine22:16
sebaswith half empty modules directory22:16
sebasit's been in and out of suspend for a few weeks, without reboot22:17
lbtsudo losetup -a22:17
sebasdoesn't return anything22:17
lbtI guess it wouldn't22:18
vgradenothing here also22:18
* sebas reboots, brb, hopefully22:18
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vgradeI had the same on IMG earlier also22:19
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lbtI saw that22:19
vgradecould the differnce be in osc rc22:21
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sebasafter rebooting, it seems to work22:22
lbtI'm suspecting suse 12.122:23
sebasmaybe my kernel ran out of loop devices?22:23
lbtsinc IMG runs that22:23
lbtsebas: could be22:23
lbtvgrade: is your loop builtin do you think ?22:23
vgradecould be ubuntu 11.1022:24
vgradecould be, im on ubuntu 11.1022:24
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vgradebut it works now for sebas who does not have module22:25
vgradeso something else is providing the loop*'s22:25
sebasit's weird, I have it as m, don't see the module in lsmod, but it works and i have 8 loop devices in /dev22:26
sebasCONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m22:26
sebasCONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP_MIN_COUNT=822:26
lbtdmesg | grep loop ?22:27
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vgrade[    0.898234] loop: module loaded22:27
sebas[  179.540627] loop: module loaded22:28
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* lbt shrugs :)22:28
lbtthat's what I'd expect22:29
sebasloop is loaded here now, and module exists22:29
lbtnot sure why lsmod isn't showing it22:29
sebasso nothing weird going on here22:29
lbtand vgrade is running ubuntu .. so anything could be happening there ;)22:29
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vgrade:)22:29
vgradejust test driving the sdk to new places22:30
lbtmic does have a tendency to leave loop devices around if you interrupt it22:30
lbtI plan to try lxc to see if that keeps it cleaner22:30
lbtbut it's lower prio now22:30
lbtso sebas, you can make a vivaldi image now22:31
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sebaslbt: yes, it's building22:31
sebasdownloading stuff right now, may take a while22:31
lbtgood22:31
sebashow long does it take on your machines to roll an image? just to give me a ballpark idea22:32
lbtyeah - I stopped mine - my bandwidth is really bad right now22:32
lbt2-5 mins22:32
sebasjumps between 250KB/s and 50022:32
sebasah, that's pretty quick, cool22:32
vgradesebas, no too bad but i do have 100MB line22:32
* sebas has 60MBit/s here22:33
lbtI use an SSD for all the build/img things22:33
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* lbt has <2MBits here !22:33
sebasthis is also on an SSD22:33
lbtMar 19 09:38:32 oak kernel: [11663502.831203] ATM dev 0: ADSL line is up (1792 kb/s down | 448 kb/s up)22:33
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lbtsebas: good - you'll obviously find the cache helps too22:34
vgradesebas, you can also pick up the G9 kickstarts now as well and build those in the same way22:34
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lbtvgrade: I'll see what I can do about IMG - that's odd22:34
sebascool =)22:34
vgradelbt, if you reboot it lert me know an I'll submit another raw job22:35
vgradelbt, is there a way to schedule a job on IMG?22:36
lbtyes, kinda :)22:37
vgradeaseigo, was looking for a way to automate the vivaldi builds22:37
lbtIMG is designed to be triggered by BOSS22:37
lbtoh, totall22:37
lbty22:37
vgradeI thought you were going to say BOSS22:37
lbtactually when you use the frontend it runs a BOSS job22:37
vgradeI'll put that on the list22:37
vgradeto look at22:38
lbtoh, if they want automation it'll blow their minds :)22:38
jboshi guys22:38
lbto/22:38
vgradeyea, I think aseigo was interested22:38
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vgradejbos, evening22:38
jbosis there something like oprofile for mer / n95022:38
jbosI have here an application running in pure gl + x11   on n9 its 20 fps22:39
jboson n950 + mer its 522:39
lbtouch22:39
jbosyep22:39
lbtwell Stskeeps would love to help sort that out22:39
lbtwe don't have any particular profiling apps atm22:40
lbtI'd be more than happy to help get them into Mer:Tools22:40
jbosso maybe its some 'unclear' build or something since its produced in N9 toolchain ...22:41
lbtis the app rebuilt for Mer?22:42
jbosand of course a quite complex setup ... anyway oprofile to figure out what is so slow would be awesome22:42
jbosnay22:42
jbosbuidling take like 6 hours22:42
jbos...22:42
lbtOBS :)22:42
lbttmpfs builds with big machines22:43
jbosye may i should put some time in this...22:43
vgradesounds like n950 is sw and n9 is hw22:43
jbosits definitly hardware22:43
jbosdoing real hardware stuff is fast... looks like its very slow on texture upload22:44
jbosbut thats just a wild guess22:44
lbtdon't suppose you can dual-boot the N9 ?22:44
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lbtmorning cxl00022:45
cxl000morning lbt22:46
jbosno22:46
lbtnm22:46
lbtvgrade: can you log a bug for IMG raw builds please22:47
jbosbasically its gecko webengine rending this: http://bubblemark.com/dhtml.htm22:47
Stskeeps22:47
vgradelbt, adds another bug to his list22:48
lbt153fps22:48
jbosit's shouldn't be the driver I think, it has the same extensions and such... on both devices22:49
jbosin fennec on n9 its even faster22:49
jbosvery very unexpected...22:49
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sebasyay, first image build succeeded =)22:55
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vgradesebas, \o/22:56
sebas\o/22:57
vgradeI'm going to start doing them on IMG which uses the slx machine once lbt has had a look at the loop issue on there so they will be readily downloadable22:57
vgradewe can look into some BOSS automation as well22:57
sebasgood, good :)22:58
vgradehttps://img.merproject.org/img/queue/22:58
sebascan't log in there22:59
lbtcould be arranged :)22:59
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lbtit's only closed to stop people running too many image builds23:00
vgradegood to have sebas on the list23:01
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vgradeand mdfe23:01
* sebas is usually pretty tame23:02
sebas:P23:02
lbttry now23:02
lbthad to add you to the LDAP group23:02
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lbt(assuming 'sebas' is your username on the mer bz?)23:03
sebasit is23:03
vgradesebas, the new imnage is looking good, the polkit crashes have gone now I'm using devel polkit and the nepomuk, virtuoso, akondai things seem less intrusive now.23:03
sebaswell, on the wiki anyway, not sure if that's bz, too?23:04
vgradehave loads more functionality, on the buld now23:04
sebasbtw, about the caching, can I also share caches between osc and mic?23:04
lbtsebas: no, bz is the main Mer SSO23:04
sebaslet me check if I have an account there23:04
lbtwiki needs to move at some point ... <<---  alterego!!!!23:04
lbtI don't think you do23:04
sebaswhere's bugzilla?23:06
lbthttps://bugs.merproject.org/23:06
jboslbt does the mer kernel actually have build in oprofile device driver?23:07
lbtjbos: there is no mer kernel as such23:08
lbtNemo has a kernel23:08
lbtMer is basically from just above kernel (with some requirements on some CONFIG_*) to X/Qt23:09
jbosok, well I indeed23:09
lbteach project provides their own kernel23:09
lbtOK - just being clear :D23:09
jbosI meant nemo :)23:09
vgradeCONFIG_OPROFILE_ARMV7=y23:10
lbtand I don't know that well enough - Sage_ is the man there23:10
lbtor vgrade apparently :)23:10
vgradehttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=kernel-adaptation-n950.config&package=kernel-adaptation-n950&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9&rev=c78074f995df306bf1e9070bd6c3a82223:10
vgradeCONFIG_OPROFILE=m23:11
vgradeCONFIG_HAVE_OPROFILE=y23:11
lbtand... I've found a couple of packages for meego23:11
lbtone of which is empty and one of which won't share their source...23:12
lbt:/23:12
lbtand the only oprofile on cobs is empty23:14
jboswell well well :) lets see23:14
jboscant be to hard to build it23:14
lbtI'm afraid you'll need to port it in from somewhere else - fedora or suse probably23:14
jboshandcrafted is always most awesome23:14
lbtif you do that then please use spectacle23:15
vgradehttps://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=oprofile&project=devel%3Atools23:16
sebasalrightie, bugzilla account "sebas" created :)23:17
lbtso in theory you can log right in to img now23:17
sebasyes I can23:22
lbtcool - OK, I'll leave you in vgrade's hands there ... off to bed early for once!23:23
lbtthanks for #240 vgrade23:23
sebashehe, sleep well :)23:23
lbtnot hard at the moment :)23:24
lbto/ night all23:24
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sebasunder which project should I put the zsh package?23:35
vgradesebas, do you have it in your home now23:36
sebasnot yet23:36
sebasI'll put it there for now23:36
vgradeyes then you can add your home repo and zypper in to sdk23:37
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vgradeand ping lbt to add it to tool project23:37
vgradegot my sponsorship confirmed to tizen conf today, just need to get the green light from the family23:38
wmarone_sounds like it might be worth going to the conference23:41
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vgradewmarone_ :)23:43
wmarone_any word on if they accepted Stskeeps's presentation?23:44
vgradedon't think the speakers have been announced23:44
* wmarone_ prods the intel reference board23:45
wmarone_soon as I hear I will probably be able to justify the time off to myself23:45
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sebaszsh package is in my home now, let's see if it builds23:47
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vgradesebas, missing arch's in meta, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Building_against_Mer_in_COBS23:52
vgradeadvanced then meta from home:sebas23:53
sebasah :)23:53
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vgradethey don't get added correctly when adding the repos from the gui23:54
vgraderip out those docs deps,23:57
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