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| Stskeeps | like clockwork, my brain wakes me up at 6:30am | 05:31 |
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| Stskeeps | almost scary :P | 05:31 |
| berndhs | i usually wake up 10 mins before my alarm clock is set | 05:31 |
| berndhs | i hate the soud | 05:31 |
| berndhs | sound | 05:32 |
| berndhs | Stskeeps: i see you making good progress, with the tools and some commercial efforts based on mer | 05:34 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, starting to look good now | 05:34 |
| berndhs | im distracted by this working for a living stuff, but im not giving up :) | 05:34 |
| berndhs | taking me too long to get organized :( | 05:35 |
| berndhs | i work for ICS now | 05:36 |
| berndhs | they sent me to the left coast | 05:36 |
| Stskeeps | oh cool | 05:36 |
| berndhs | yeah, its warmer back in canada the last 3 day than in orange county :) | 05:37 |
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| berndhs | but really, this is a step forward for me, just have to get organized so I can do more things than just work | 05:38 |
| Stskeeps | just be happy you have work :) | 05:38 |
| berndhs | work sucks, income is good :) | 05:39 |
| * Stskeeps thinks he'll take one-two more hours of sleep | 05:39 | |
| Stskeeps | bbl | 05:39 |
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| berndhs | is decent work, really | 05:42 |
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| E-P | Morning | 06:05 |
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| berndhs | E-P: evening | 06:14 |
| E-P | :) | 06:14 |
| berndhs | im going to sleep | 06:16 |
| berndhs | good night everyone | 06:16 |
| E-P | good night | 06:16 |
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| timoph | E-P: o/ | 06:28 |
| * timoph sees even more meego qa tools people appearing here :) | 06:29 | |
| E-P | timoph: \o how are you? | 06:30 |
| timoph | not bad | 06:30 |
| timoph | too busy with work | 06:30 |
| E-P | common problem | 06:31 |
| timoph | we're using test assest and tools for meego so good to have you around too :) | 06:33 |
| E-P | I heard something like that | 06:34 |
| E-P | I could help with the testing process and automation | 06:34 |
| timoph | the help is very welcome | 06:34 |
| timoph | we talked about making things runnable manually first | 06:35 |
| timoph | but getting automation running after that shouldn't be too hard | 06:35 |
| E-P | so at the moment there is no testing or infra for testing? | 06:35 |
| timoph | there's some but I'm not too familiar with the setup | 06:35 |
| E-P | ok | 06:36 |
| timoph | lbt and Stskeeps should be able to tell more | 06:36 |
| E-P | I have been following the meetings and discussion around here to get more info how the things are done | 06:37 |
| timoph | yeah. the best way is to ask if something is unclear :) | 06:37 |
| timoph | people tend to be very helpfull here | 06:37 |
| E-P | yes, I have noticed that | 06:38 |
| E-P | I think we can get good test base from BLTS tests | 06:39 |
| timoph | yeah | 06:39 |
| timoph | dunno if there's unresolved issues in the public version though | 06:39 |
| E-P | and we can make "free" changes to the tools now :) | 06:39 |
| timoph | :D | 06:39 |
| timoph | yeah. I moved the execution tool to another repo just the other day | 06:40 |
| timoph | just to make sure they won't disappear | 06:40 |
| timoph | tools that is | 06:40 |
| timoph | tr-lite, definition and kyranto's graphical tools | 06:41 |
| E-P | good, maybe we should to the same for all the tools | 06:41 |
| timoph | would make sense | 06:41 |
| E-P | even if we don't use them now | 06:41 |
| timoph | ots with mer should be an interesting excersice | 06:42 |
| timoph | true | 06:42 |
| timoph | you never know | 06:42 |
| timoph | Stskeeps backed up the media test data from testdata.meego.com | 06:42 |
| E-P | I think OTS would work nicely for basic testing | 06:43 |
| timoph | and that's pretty much what we need | 06:43 |
| timoph | making sure that Mer core works | 06:43 |
| E-P | I agree | 06:43 |
| timoph | so doing ci/release testing for it | 06:43 |
| * timoph goes out for some air. brb | 06:44 | |
| E-P | are there some officially supported platforms where the tests should be run? like n900, panda, beagle? | 06:44 |
| E-P | s/platforms/hardwares | 06:46 |
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| timoph | that's the thing. what hw to use | 06:55 |
| timoph | one thing would be run test in the sdk chroot | 06:56 |
| timoph | iirc tr-lite should support running things in chroot | 06:56 |
| E-P | yes it does, ots supports that too | 06:56 |
| timoph | so that would be a good place to start since it doesn't require hw | 06:57 |
| E-P | hw testing requires also additional hardware, like switchboxes | 06:57 |
| timoph | yep and we don't have those | 06:58 |
| timoph | so some additional tricks are required | 06:58 |
| timoph | I wonder if they still make the boxed | 06:58 |
| timoph | those weren't cheap but.. | 06:58 |
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| timoph | boxes even | 06:59 |
| E-P | no idea | 06:59 |
| E-P | that was nice concept | 06:59 |
| timoph | or if there's someone inside nokia that could donate a couple of those if they're not using those anymore | 06:59 |
| iekku | no such contacts to nokia anymore :( | 07:01 |
| iekku | i think tampere devices went to tallinn anyways | 07:01 |
| timoph | http://www.optofidelity.com/en/test-automation/meego/ | 07:02 |
| E-P | anyway, we can start with chroot or virtual image testing | 07:02 |
| timoph | yep | 07:02 |
| timoph | ah. true since vm images are now possible | 07:03 |
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| timoph | imo one device to do tests with will be the plasma active tablet once it's available | 07:05 |
| timoph | vivaldi | 07:05 |
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| E-P | we can ask from Teemu if he would make the power switch modification to the tablet ;) | 07:06 |
| timoph | :) | 07:06 |
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| vgrade | http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/session/plasma-activevivaldi-tablet-truly-open-os-mobile-devices | 07:19 |
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| E-P | nice | 07:22 |
| timoph | very cool | 07:23 |
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| pdanek | merproject.net trans. is done | 07:28 |
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| timoph | E-P: so how about we start by setting up the toolchain to do something with the sdk and document the setup so anyone can do the same. | 07:43 |
| timoph | single machine setup that is | 07:43 |
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| timoph | at least I plan on doing it with a virtual machine | 07:44 |
| E-P | that sounds good | 07:44 |
| timoph | (been meaning to do it the whole week but short in time) | 07:44 |
| timoph | yeah. run some simple tests with it | 07:45 |
| timoph | e.g. testing that that cross compilers work | 07:45 |
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| E-P | I have also much stuff to do and so less time, but i can try something out during the weekend | 07:45 |
| timoph | ok. I should have some time this evening | 07:46 |
| timoph | I'll document what I come up with | 07:46 |
| E-P | First I have to recall how to create images and all the basic stuff | 07:46 |
| timoph | the image creationg is a bit different | 07:47 |
| timoph | not much | 07:47 |
| * saunabad is having a deja vu | 07:47 | |
| timoph | :) | 07:47 |
| saunabad | hi E-P o/ | 07:48 |
| timoph | been having those often lately here :) | 07:48 |
| E-P | I had to /wii the saunabad.. now I know who you are! | 07:48 |
| timoph | :) | 07:49 |
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| saunabad | :) | 07:49 |
| E-P | how it is going? | 07:50 |
| InformatiQ | if I want to act as a mer vendor | 07:50 |
| InformatiQ | is there a wiki page that instructs what to do? | 07:50 |
| iekku | hi InformatiQ :) | 07:50 |
| InformatiQ | which OBS? how to get sb2 in my obs | 07:50 |
| InformatiQ | and so on | 07:50 |
| InformatiQ | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mer_Delivery_System | 07:51 |
| InformatiQ | seems to be mentioning everything but the OBS part | 07:51 |
| InformatiQ | ieatlint: morjenz | 07:51 |
| InformatiQ | iekku: morjenz | 07:51 |
| timoph | hmmh. http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page#Vendors only says "If you're interested in why Mer is right for you then please approach Carsten Munk or David Greaves. We'll be putting some material up that should focus on the benefits that Mer offers." | 07:51 |
| InformatiQ | ah the tab completion | 07:51 |
| iekku | saunabad, oh, it's you (/wii helped) | 07:52 |
| E-P | timoph: where are you going to document your findings? | 07:52 |
| InformatiQ | is there a munk or a greaves around | 07:52 |
| timoph | E-P: wiki.merproject.org - we might want to create a new page for QA there though | 07:52 |
| timoph | E-P: there is already http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Test_process | 07:53 |
| timoph | but not so much about TA, etc. | 07:53 |
| timoph | I started migrating tools info from meego wiki the other day | 07:54 |
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| timoph | using my user wiki page as a staging area | 07:54 |
| E-P | great | 07:54 |
| timoph | have to think a bit how to organize the QA stuff to the wiki | 07:55 |
| timoph | there's quite a bit of that info | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | InformatiQ: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_Setup is the right guide | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | if there's problems, feel free to ask in here | 07:58 |
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| Stskeeps | E-P: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 08:00 |
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| E-P | Stskeeps: thanks. Have you modified/transferred the MCTS tests or are you using the source from meego git? | 08:03 |
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| Stskeeps | E-P: very very tiny patches to make them build on modern gcc/binutils, get an account on webui-ci.tspre.org and look at devel:quality(:tests) | 08:05 |
| E-P | ok, I will | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | we changed some thing so if you use a symbol from libX11, you have to implicit link to it | 08:07 |
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| Stskeeps | morn mdfe, did your mesa problem go away? | 08:17 |
| mdfe_ | yes, by adding prevers inside project config | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:18 |
| mdfe_ | thanks | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | it's a bit awkward that it didn't resolve itself when mesa was wipebinarie'd | 08:18 |
| mdfe_ | yep | 08:19 |
| mdfe_ | no idea why the obs do not forget about it | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i think we saw same problem in sage's project too | 08:20 |
| mdfe_ | are you familar with obs user roles? | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | well, nothing i can't google | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | what's up? | 08:22 |
| mdfe_ | I'm thinking about an anonymous user for PA which is able to build via osc localy without account | 08:23 |
| mdfe_ | there is a 'Downloader' role | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. that won't work like you think it would | 08:25 |
| mdfe_ | bleh | 08:25 |
| mdfe_ | so there is no way to build va osc without account? | 08:26 |
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| Stskeeps | i've considered at times to make a kinda proxy thing that enables you to do that | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | the api is pretty simple so | 08:26 |
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| mdfe_ | sounds promising | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | but it's one of those things i never really found time for :P | 08:28 |
| mdfe_ | I know what you mean | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | InformatiQ: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_Setup is the right guide , if there's problems, inquire within here | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | err | 08:29 |
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| mdfe_ | thanks | 08:36 |
| mdfe_ | ls | 08:38 |
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| Stskeeps | morn slaine | 08:45 |
| slaine | morn Stskeeps | 08:45 |
| slaine | morn all | 08:45 |
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| Stskeeps | feck, qemu still has a problem with atomics | 09:48 |
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| slaine | Nice to see 'feck' making it into international english usage | 09:51 |
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| slaine | We probably have Father Ted to thank for spreading the word | 09:51 |
| lbt | morning all | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 09:52 |
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| E-P | morning | 09:52 |
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| slaine | morning lbt | 10:02 |
| slaine | When you're coffees and ready, I've a couple of questions on setting up the obs worker vm | 10:02 |
| slaine | coffeed | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i think we'll have to push eglibc 2.15 to +2w | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i just ran into atomics not beign fixed in qemu, so we're seeing ./configure lockups | 10:04 |
| lbt | *nod* | 10:04 |
| lbt | focus on Qt5 then | 10:04 |
| lbt | Bostik should like that : | 10:04 |
| lbt | ) | 10:04 |
| Bostik | I'm about to break :Qt5:Devel with a new upload, mind you :) | 10:05 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: how much will you beat me if i ask if you can rename to qt5base ? | 10:05 |
| Bostik | aiee | 10:05 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: if you want this done by release next week, I'll probably ignore the request because it *will* have domino effects which I can't anticipate | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | well, i think at the moment the best thing is to get things into review | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | so not a high priority one | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | in practice apps should rely on pkgconfig anyway | 10:08 |
| lbt | is it worth getting the broken Qt into review? | 10:08 |
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| Stskeeps | it's worth getting qtbase into review asap, yes | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | but best to be closest to what bostik has | 10:09 |
| lbt | qtbase isn't a package atm | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | huh? | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:09 |
| lbt | nm - having too many chats in too many windows | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: either way, i think we should make it a goal to get qtbase into review when we can, then we can get everything properly looked over, inline commented, etc | 10:11 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: mer-core/qtbase git repo created | 10:13 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: aye, the build hack needs to be cleaned up in any case | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 10:13 |
| Bostik | I'll have to read up a bit to digest how mer does these package voodoo spells | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | if you run into any issues, feel free to prod me | 10:16 |
| Bostik | oh I will | 10:16 |
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| lbt | sry - bank called about nfp account :) | 10:16 |
| lbt | so Bostik was saying we need to do an update pull from upstream to try to resolve ... qtjsbackend | 10:17 |
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| slaine | Who much pain will it be to repackage qtbase as qt5base after it's gone into review | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | in practice it shouldn't matter much | 10:18 |
| slaine | wouldn't it make more sense to hold off putting it in review until that has changed, rather than going through the whole review again for a package name change. | 10:18 |
| lbt | I'd like to see it go through the automated review asap | 10:19 |
| slaine | k | 10:19 |
| lbt | that way we know how long it takes and if there are any issues | 10:19 |
| slaine | lbt, change of track then, obs worker setup. | 10:20 |
| lbt | however - Stskeeps may say he knows all that from qt and that's OK too | 10:20 |
| lbt | slaine: yep... | 10:20 |
| slaine | The wiki has a reference to adding a repo, that should probably be removed in favor of the repo that's added at the head of the wiki article, as the one in question here is mostly empty | 10:20 |
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| slaine | Secondly, after installing the obs-worker package, I don't have an /etc/sysconfig/obs-worker config file to edit | 10:21 |
| lbt | ooh | 10:21 |
| slaine | Listing the rpm package contents does show a template for an obs-server file, /var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.obs-server | 10:22 |
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| * lbt sends phaeron *another* get well soon card | 10:26 | |
| slaine | lbt, I assume obs-server is what the wiki was referring to, and obs-worker was a mistake ? | 10:29 |
| slaine | and I can copy the template to /etc/sysconfig/ and get modifying. | 10:29 |
| lbt | this feels wrong | 10:30 |
| lbt | it's *way* too hacky | 10:30 |
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| lbt | slaine: I'm sorry about this - last time I ran through these instructions it was really smooth | 10:32 |
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| slaine | lbt, that's why it's good I'm doing it now :) | 10:32 |
| slaine | don't be sorry, stuff changes, we move, we adapt, we fix | 10:32 |
| lbt | true | 10:32 |
| lbt | right ... so I see it's adding Mer:Tools to the worker | 10:33 |
| lbt | that's for our qemu | 10:34 |
| lbt | and it should be Tools:Testing for now | 10:34 |
| slaine | Nod, there's nothing in Mer:Tools | 10:34 |
| slaine | So, I removed that and added the one mentioned at the top of the page, Tools:testing iirc | 10:35 |
| lbt | that's actually the OBS one | 10:35 |
| lbt | you need both | 10:35 |
| slaine | Ah, I see | 10:36 |
| lbt | so I wonder if there was a bug in the worker post- file | 10:36 |
| lbt | ... doorbell ...bbias | 10:36 |
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| slaine | I didn't see any, I'll kick of a reinstall | 10:36 |
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| slaine | Does zypper have an equivalent of yum reinstall ? | 10:41 |
| Bostik | does it honor "--force install" ? | 10:43 |
| timoph | afaik you can use zypper in -f <package> | 10:43 |
| slaine | I'll try | 10:44 |
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| slaine | lbt, defo something up with the obs-worker package, it failed on the %preun when trying to erase it | 10:45 |
| Bostik | aawwwwww crap, ahma's script fixes are incomplete and my upload to :Qt5:Devel is not what it should be :/ | 10:45 |
| lbt | slaine: OK - I'll take a look | 10:48 |
| lbt | slaine: let me check my task list and see what's what | 10:49 |
| lbt | hehe ... "slides for slaine" | 10:49 |
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| slaine | hehe | 10:52 |
| slaine | don't' stress too much about that | 10:52 |
| slaine | I'll probably be talking arch stuff mostly, and via a combination of the meego arch documents and Stskeeps presentation on mer, I think I'm good for an intro proposal | 10:53 |
| slaine | I'm also wanting to demo the concept by building nemo mobile for my n900 and the idea pad and passing it on. | 10:54 |
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| slaine | Hmm, sounds like Tizen isn't going to well based on raster's comments | 11:16 |
| sroedal | huh? | 11:17 |
| lbt | well, we know it has been fairly stressful - sounds like he's tired and fed up with it | 11:18 |
| slaine | nod | 11:18 |
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| slaine | lbt, no errors on obs-worker when force installing the rpm | 11:25 |
| lbt | sysconfig still missing | 11:27 |
| slaine | it seems to get through the prein and the post install is where most of the magic happens. There is an /etc/init.d/obsworker, but still not /etc/syconfig/ | 11:28 |
| slaine | wonder of there's an equivalent of sh -x for the rpm install | 11:28 |
| lbt | just looking into it | 11:33 |
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| slaine | lbt, actually, I never updated the repo list | 11:38 |
| slaine | I have Mer_OBS_Testing added this this vm | 11:38 |
| slaine | didn't you mention I needed another one ? | 11:38 |
| slaine | It's getting obs-worker-2.2.120.git50ef8d4-1.1.noarch.rpm witht he current repo setup. | 11:39 |
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| lbt | hmm I see: http://repo.pub.meego.com/Mer%3a/OBS%3a/Testing%3a/Devel/openSUSE_11.4/noarch/ | 11:41 |
| slaine | Ok, so I need that and http://repo.pub.meego.com//Mer:/OBS:/Testing/openSUSE_11.4/Mer:OBS:Testing.repo | 11:41 |
| slaine | 'cause at the moment, I'm getting obs-worker from http://repo.pub.meego.com//Mer:/OBS:/Testing/openSUSE_11.4/noarch/ | 11:42 |
| lbt | I'm thinking to try Testing:Devel for the worker | 11:44 |
| slaine | seems overly complicated | 11:48 |
| lbt | it is | 11:48 |
| lbt | well, it is for normal use | 11:48 |
| slaine | I assume phareon was in the middle of sorting the packaging for all this when he got sick | 11:48 |
| lbt | the :Devel is for the team to share hacks and testing | 11:49 |
| lbt | he was | 11:49 |
| lbt | once it's tried out by the team in :Devel it goes to Testing and then QA (and users if they like) can try it | 11:50 |
| slaine | right | 11:50 |
| slaine | I'll add Devel repo | 11:50 |
| lbt | if you use Devel and it's OK then I'll promote it to Testing | 11:51 |
| slaine | Damn, same problem with 2.2.128 | 11:54 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, mdfe_, I need a mesa-dri-swrast-driver for ARM, I noticed it has been removed from KDE repos, where is the ARM package getting built now | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: you need swrast? :P | 12:02 |
| vgrade | sorry disabled not removed | 12:02 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, until I get propoer drivers yes | 12:03 |
| vgrade | build it in my adaptation project? | 12:06 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, that's one way | 12:08 |
| vgrade | is there a better way? | 12:09 |
| slaine | Is there a zypper equivalent to yumdownloader ? | 12:09 |
| slaine | trying to adjust my workflow from fedora to mer/obs | 12:09 |
| slaine | --download-only ? | 12:10 |
| slaine | hmm, this version of zypper doesn't seem to support that. | 12:13 |
| slaine | can't even find the cached rpm | 12:13 |
| slaine | sigh | 12:13 |
| * slaine fears change | 12:14 | |
| lbt | slaine: zypper has a download option I think | 12:14 |
| lbt | and /var/cache/.... for rpms | 12:14 |
| slaine | I checked, they weren't there | 12:15 |
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| slaine | even ran a find from / | 12:15 |
| int_ua | Looks like there is a limit of 2 Mb for uImage on N900. Is it true? | 12:15 |
| slaine | Perphaps later versions of zypper support --download-only, but not the version in 11.4 | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | int_ua: probable | 12:16 |
| int_ua | Stskeeps: BTW, Ubuntu booted :) Works with --no-log boot kernel parameter. | 12:17 |
| int_ua | Stskeeps: Any clue where does the limit coming from? The kernel is loaded from RAM by U-Boot, so there should be enough space available. | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | int_ua: actually no, uboot should make it able to be bigger | 12:18 |
| lbt | slaine: /var/cache/zypp/packages/ | 12:18 |
| lbt | as root possibly | 12:18 |
| slaine | lbt, not, it's empty | 12:18 |
| slaine | nod | 12:18 |
| slaine | even | 12:18 |
| lbt | err, OK | 12:19 |
| slaine | not sure why | 12:19 |
| slaine | anyway, figured out the problem | 12:19 |
| * int_ua calculates difference between 0x82000000 and 0x83000000 | 12:20 | |
| lbt | ok - what did you do? | 12:20 |
| slaine | It's setting SYSC_TEMPLATE as so, SYSC_TEMPLATE=/var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.obs-worker | 12:20 |
| slaine | However, there's no such file | 12:20 |
| slaine | it's called /var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.obs-server | 12:20 |
| slaine | So it's skipping over that if block | 12:20 |
| slaine | I used curl to download the rpm url | 12:21 |
| slaine | then I ran rpm -Uvh -vv --force obs-worker-2.2.128..... | 12:21 |
| lbt | OK - I'll take a look at this stuff this afternoon | 12:22 |
| slaine | that -vv give you the shell output of the scripts | 12:22 |
| slaine | I can paste bin if you like | 12:22 |
| lbt | nah, that's enough to find the issue | 12:22 |
| slaine | k | 12:22 |
| lbt | I suspect we've pulled code and not packaging changes | 12:22 |
| slaine | Nod | 12:23 |
| mdfe_ | vgrade: can't you take the mesa-llvmpipe-dri-swrast-driver instead? | 12:23 |
| slaine | lbt, it looks like the upstream has moved to calling it obs-server, the old way being called obs-worker | 12:23 |
| slaine | The source rpm is obs-server | 12:23 |
| slaine | the resulting noarch rpm is incorrectly being called obs-worker | 12:24 |
| lbt | doubtful | 12:24 |
| lbt | obs-server makes a few packages | 12:24 |
| lbt | each is functionally named | 12:24 |
| slaine | Right, well there's a mix up in that section then | 12:25 |
| lbt | repo/scheduler/publish/worker | 12:25 |
| lbt | OK | 12:25 |
| slaine | $PNAME is getting obs-worker and using that to look for the template for for sysconfig | 12:25 |
| slaine | but the template file is called obs-server | 12:25 |
| vgrade | mdfe, I thought llvmpipe did not work on ARM | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't, but i wonder if we can fallback | 12:29 |
| vgrade | mdfe_ are you using llvmpipe on G9? | 12:30 |
| mdfe_ | at the moment yes | 12:30 |
| vgrade | what repo is that comming from? | 12:30 |
| mdfe_ | mer core | 12:30 |
| vgrade | ok thanks | 12:31 |
| mdfe_ | np | 12:31 |
| mdfe_ | good luck | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: and it works with llvmpipe? | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | (is swrast dri installed, out of curiousity?0 | 12:34 |
| slaine | so I guess that means llvmpipe does work on ARM then | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | if swrast dri is installed, not highly likely | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | but hey, i would like to be pleasantly surprised | 12:35 |
| slaine | is swrast still in the llvmpipe package as a fallback ? | 12:35 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: the ux comes up | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: yeah, think so | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: and swrast-dri is there or not? | 12:36 |
| slaine | That's probably all vgrade needs then | 12:36 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: its installed on the image | 12:37 |
| mdfe_ | http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/archos-generation-9/2012-03-21-16-49-basyskom-plasma-active-testing-mer-armv7l-archos-gen9-mmcblk1p-raw.ks | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: ok | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | so probably not 'fast' llvmpipe | 12:38 |
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| Bostik | holy crap, jsbackend built on all Mer targets; I'll fix the remaining immediate errors on other packages and then start cleaning up on qtbase crud | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 13:24 |
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| Anssi138 | babababatmaaan | 13:26 |
| lbt | \o/ | 13:26 |
| lbt | gah ... forgot to kick workers | 13:27 |
| lbt | done now | 13:27 |
| lbt | out now ... back this evening | 13:29 |
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| lbt | slaine: working on OBS fyi | 13:29 |
| slaine | lbt, great, thanks | 13:30 |
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| vgrade | lbt, tried an image build https://img.merproject.org/images/web/vgrade/6-20120322-133310/ | 13:52 |
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| vgrade | lbt, can you schedule builds? | 13:54 |
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| harbaum | i am pretty sure this has been asked before, but i can' tfind anything: is someone working with the lenovo a1? Sounds like a nice device to me | 15:19 |
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| Stskeeps | lenovo a1.. that's the omap or qualcomm one coupled with intel cpu? | 15:20 |
| mdfe_ | lbt: following package builds are stuck on cobs https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=perl-doc&project=home%3Akhertan&repository=Harmattan | 15:21 |
| mdfe_ | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=createrepo&project=home%3Aronan%3AOBS_Light%3Acreaterepo&repository=Fedora_15 | 15:22 |
| mdfe_ | do you have time to poke them? | 15:22 |
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| harbaum | Stskeeps: from price (€159) and description at amazon i think it's just an omap4 table | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | hm, interesting | 15:31 |
| slaine | nice price | 15:32 |
| slaine | whats the device like | 15:32 |
| slaine | still haven't found that 7" android tablet I want for usage and fun | 15:32 |
| slaine | alright, I've an obs webui vm | 15:38 |
| slaine | I've an obs backend vm | 15:38 |
| slaine | and I've an obs worker vm | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | time for a beer? | 15:39 |
| slaine | lol, no, that was the easy bit | 15:39 |
| slaine | now I've to make it build something :) | 15:39 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps, lbt: qtbase + qtjsbackend + qtdeclarative built in :Qt5:Devel; anything which requires declarative will need updated specs, since the module's official name is now "QtQml"; I'll get to that shortly | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 15:40 |
| Bostik | poor ahma, I didn't know what I dumped on him... | 15:43 |
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| Stskeeps | let me know when you want to be guided through submitting it to gerrit | 15:45 |
| Bostik | tomorrow, I think | 15:46 |
| Bostik | got a "done last week, please" task at work... | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 15:47 |
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| vgrade | anyone had issues with systemd-journal taking all CPU | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: well, perhaps there's something pushing a lot of entries to it | 15:50 |
| vgrade | is the journal new in this release | 15:51 |
| mdfe_ | Sage_: hi, do you have shot time to give me some hints about your panadaboard adaption? | 15:52 |
| slaine | I see fedora have skipped it for F18 | 15:52 |
| vgrade | where is the journal writing its log? | 15:52 |
| slaine | systemd-journal that is | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: systemd-journalctl | 15:54 |
| vgrade | thanks | 15:55 |
| vgrade | only a copy of log lines going into that log per 10 seconds | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | -f | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | it has a follow | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | and show me a pastie | 15:57 |
| vgrade | sec, or two | 16:03 |
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| vgrade | polkit crash gone now though | 16:03 |
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| lbt | vgrade: OK - I've not tried a raw image - can you do it again using rootfs | 16:45 |
| lbt | Bostik: OK - nice | 16:45 |
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| slaine | lbt, simply copying the obs-server template to /etc/sysconfig and editing accordingly worked btw | 16:56 |
| slaine | but the package should be fixed. | 16:56 |
| slaine | I've to commute now | 16:56 |
| lbt | I suspected so | 16:57 |
| slaine | catch you all tomorrow | 16:57 |
| lbt | OK - ta | 16:57 |
| slaine | where I attempt to setup my OBS system to pull from MDS and build Mer Core | 16:57 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, having difficulty sending journalctrl > file, it aborts | 17:10 |
| vgrade | but have found If systemd-journald is running at 100% on your ARM CPU with kernel <2.6.36, apply a kernel patch to expose accept4() | 17:10 |
| vgrade | im on 2.6.34 | 17:11 |
| vgrade | mdfe is on > .36 on G9 | 17:11 |
| vgrade | looks at n950 kernel adaptation for accept4 patch | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | good place to look | 17:12 |
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| Stskeeps | submit a bug against the adaptation kernel stuf | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | f | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | so we can advise for this patch | 17:19 |
| vgrade | this one https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=wire-up-sys_accept4-on-ARM.patch&package=kernel-adaptation-n950&project=home%3Amarquiz%3An950&rev=a5b2d07e6611a4c92035b24b89f1037d ? | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 17:19 |
| vgrade | wilco | 17:20 |
| vgrade | not much info about systemd-journal about | 17:20 |
| vgrade | If it sorts the issue I add to adaptation wiki also | 17:21 |
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| Stskeeps | it's a bit of a windows-ification, but i can understand where they're going | 17:22 |
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| bigbluehat | Stskeeps: going to hear someone speak on this next week: http://freedomboxfoundation.org/learn/ | 18:20 |
| bigbluehat | http://www.posscon.org/presentation/freedombox/ | 18:20 |
| bigbluehat | thought Mer might be better for it than Debian | 18:20 |
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| Stskeeps | bigbluehat: well, look up who bdale garbee is and you'll understand why it's debian :) | 19:00 |
| bigbluehat | yeah, figured it's a "use what you know (or helped build)" sort of thing :) | 19:01 |
| bigbluehat | didn't dig terribly deep as I wanted to listen next week :) | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:01 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: congrats on the sdk release | 19:21 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: ty | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | so what's next on the list? | 20:02 |
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| lbt | it sounds like our OBS packaging isn't really working - slaine had a few issues today | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, sounds like it | 20:03 |
| lbt | phaeron has that under control and I didn't really want to context switch into it | 20:03 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah.. i think we need to though, in order to reduce the bus factor | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | the situation isn't good and people are deploying OBS'es | 20:05 |
| lbt | agreed | 20:05 |
| lbt | CI would have been next | 20:06 |
| lbt | and the disk space admin is high prio for the weekendish | 20:06 |
| lbt | stefan just asked about ordering a new machine | 20:06 |
| lbt | that may be a good way to sort things out - but we're waiting for an call with the bank (tomorrow they said) | 20:07 |
| lbt | so I want all our machines to be rented via mer | 20:07 |
| lbt | since the credit-card owner essentially gets root | 20:08 |
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| lbt | we trust stefan ... but it becomes an exception and that's awkward | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | well, perhaps it's useful for the cobs angle | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | as originally intended | 20:09 |
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| * Stskeeps is having a "damn, this day went by fast" day | 20:11 | |
| Aard | it's not over yet. btw, you still didn't comment on my sd-card issue :) | 20:12 |
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| mdfe_ | *g* | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | repeat it for me? | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:13 |
| lbt | yay, I don't have a lumia and I see some N9s on eBay | 20:14 |
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| mdfe_ | lbt could you poke tomorrow the two stuck build jobs? | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: i've forgotten what it was you had of problem | 20:15 |
| Aard | 20:38 < Aard> Stskeeps: I reflashed my n900 to rule out problems with my u-boot version -> I'm seeing the behaviour me | 20:15 |
| Aard | ntioned in #92 with pr1.3 u-boot, though if I understand your comment correctly that should be a working setup | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | and what kernel error do you get? | 20:16 |
| Aard | that -110 error | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 20:17 |
| lbt | hmm I saw some fixes for that | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | so i've encountered it myself on a couple of cards and usually it means 1) card is dead or 2) i plug it in my pc and back into n900 and it magically works again | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | i've seen it with inconsistent states of the sd card or soemthing | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | but there might be a deeper problem than that, of course | 20:18 |
| lbt | is this a timeout message? | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | there is a few nemo mobile bugs about this | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | thinking to raise timeout, etc | 20:18 |
| lbt | I could be talking crap but... the ISTR seeing that the card reports a time to flush which is < the spec but it lies | 20:19 |
| Aard | the card is brand new, works perfectly in my pc, and temporarily putting it in my pc does not change it | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: bug 92 | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | on bugs.nemomobile.org | 20:21 |
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| Aard | Stskeeps: see which bug I referenced above :) | 20:22 |
| djszapi | lbt evening ping | 20:22 |
| lbt | djszapi: o/ | 20:22 |
| djszapi | is apps.formeego.org written in php ? | 20:22 |
| djszapi | is the code available somewhere ? | 20:22 |
| lbt | djszapi: think so & yes - you'd need to talk to X-Fade though | 20:23 |
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| Stskeeps | Aard: so, there is some proposed patches to kernel and i don't have time to peek into them | 20:23 |
| lbt | http://marc.info/?l=linux-omap&m=133154993325503&w=2 | 20:24 |
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| Aard | Stskeeps: reason I'm asking was a) he said those patches don't work for him, and b) you said 'you use u-boot13, that should work', and that's the setup I changed to which is not working | 20:28 |
| djszapi | lbt okay, thanks. | 20:29 |
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| Stskeeps | Aard: yeah, if uboot pr13 fails we move on to other theories | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | which say we have kernel patches to fix | 20:46 |
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| Aard | I'm messing around with the kernel anyway for the magnet (I want to completely simulate hardware magnet removal/insertion), so I can at least try what's floating around | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | k | 20:47 |
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| sebas | vgrade: getting in gear here | 21:33 |
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| vgrade | sebas, http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Vivaldi | 21:53 |
| vgrade | sorry for the delay there is an issue which has come to light with the new systemd which I was hoping to get in before | 21:54 |
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| sebas | vgrade: no worries | 21:55 |
| * sebas reads the wiki page | 21:55 | |
| vgrade | sebas, so you just need to download the kickstart, run the mic command | 21:57 |
| sebas | yep, doing that :) | 21:57 |
| vgrade | the guys can then write that to sdcard and add the kernel and modules | 21:57 |
| lbt | vgrade: you can attach a ks to the wiki | 21:58 |
| vgrade | lbt, ok thanks, there will be an update so I'll do that next time | 21:59 |
| vgrade | sebas, once I have the kernel packaged then there will be a new kickstart with the kernel added and then the last two steps of extracting the tarballs will not be needed | 22:00 |
| sebas | ok | 22:00 |
| sebas | mic fails here with http://paste.kde.org/444848 | 22:00 |
| sebas | and I had to install syslinux-extlinux, should I add that to the wiki page? | 22:01 |
| vgrade | interesting thats the same error I got when using IMG today | 22:01 |
| vgrade | lbt, any thoughts | 22:02 |
| sebas | mic doesn't use osc's rpm buildroot by default, no? | 22:03 |
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| lbt | mmm? | 22:03 |
| sebas | I vaguely recall seeing a wiki page telling how to point mic and osc to the same cache, do you know where this is? | 22:03 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Sharing_mic_and_osc_caches | 22:03 |
| sebas | lbt: mic failing to create an image | 22:04 |
| sebas | sweet, thanks | 22:04 |
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| vgrade | lbt, working ok in my sdk btw | 22:04 |
| lbt | ah, raw images ... | 22:04 |
| lbt | vgrade: raw? | 22:04 |
| vgrade | yes | 22:04 |
| vgrade | but working ok in my sdk | 22:05 |
| lbt | I wonder if that's good or bad :) | 22:05 |
| lbt | lets hope it fails in mine :) | 22:05 |
| vgrade | sebas enough free space? | 22:06 |
| sebas | 9.3GB on that partition | 22:06 |
| sebas | /tmp has at least 4.3 free | 22:07 |
| lbt | Error <creator>: Command 'extlinux' is not available. | 22:07 |
| sebas | zypper in syslinux-extlinux | 22:08 |
| sebas | after that, i got the above error | 22:08 |
| lbt | yeah - should be in the wiki page too, it's not in the SDK by default | 22:08 |
| * sebas adds it | 22:08 | |
| lbt | maybe it should be... | 22:08 |
| sebas | added to the wiki page anyway | 22:10 |
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| lbt | hmm, worked for me too | 22:11 |
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| lbt | sebas: can you sudo lsmod | grep loop | 22:12 |
| sebas | it's empty | 22:12 |
| lbt | sudo modprobe loop | 22:12 |
| sebas | I don't have that module | 22:12 |
| lbt | ah... that could explain it :) | 22:12 |
| lbt | what distro/kernel ? | 22:13 |
| sebas | zgrep LOOP /proc/config.gz [23:12:38] | 22:13 |
| sebas | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m | 22:13 |
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| sebas | opensuse 12.1, 3.1 kernel | 22:13 |
| sebas | so should be there, hm | 22:13 |
| lbt | yep - odd | 22:13 |
| vgrade | I don't have loop | 22:14 |
| lbt | ! | 22:14 |
| lbt | do you have /dev/loop* ? | 22:14 |
| sebas | odd, it's not in the modules directory, only in the config | 22:15 |
| sebas | yep, quite a few loop devices | 22:15 |
| lbt | that doesn't make sense to me ... :( | 22:16 |
| vgrade | yes lots | 22:16 |
| sebas | I wonder what happens if I reboot this machine | 22:16 |
| sebas | with half empty modules directory | 22:16 |
| sebas | it's been in and out of suspend for a few weeks, without reboot | 22:17 |
| lbt | sudo losetup -a | 22:17 |
| sebas | doesn't return anything | 22:17 |
| lbt | I guess it wouldn't | 22:18 |
| vgrade | nothing here also | 22:18 |
| * sebas reboots, brb, hopefully | 22:18 | |
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| vgrade | I had the same on IMG earlier also | 22:19 |
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| lbt | I saw that | 22:19 |
| vgrade | could the differnce be in osc rc | 22:21 |
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| sebas | after rebooting, it seems to work | 22:22 |
| lbt | I'm suspecting suse 12.1 | 22:23 |
| sebas | maybe my kernel ran out of loop devices? | 22:23 |
| lbt | sinc IMG runs that | 22:23 |
| lbt | sebas: could be | 22:23 |
| lbt | vgrade: is your loop builtin do you think ? | 22:23 |
| vgrade | could be ubuntu 11.10 | 22:24 |
| vgrade | could be, im on ubuntu 11.10 | 22:24 |
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| vgrade | but it works now for sebas who does not have module | 22:25 |
| vgrade | so something else is providing the loop*'s | 22:25 |
| sebas | it's weird, I have it as m, don't see the module in lsmod, but it works and i have 8 loop devices in /dev | 22:26 |
| sebas | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m | 22:26 |
| sebas | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP_MIN_COUNT=8 | 22:26 |
| lbt | dmesg | grep loop ? | 22:27 |
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| vgrade | [ 0.898234] loop: module loaded | 22:27 |
| sebas | [ 179.540627] loop: module loaded | 22:28 |
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| * lbt shrugs :) | 22:28 | |
| lbt | that's what I'd expect | 22:29 |
| sebas | loop is loaded here now, and module exists | 22:29 |
| lbt | not sure why lsmod isn't showing it | 22:29 |
| sebas | so nothing weird going on here | 22:29 |
| lbt | and vgrade is running ubuntu .. so anything could be happening there ;) | 22:29 |
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| vgrade | :) | 22:29 |
| vgrade | just test driving the sdk to new places | 22:30 |
| lbt | mic does have a tendency to leave loop devices around if you interrupt it | 22:30 |
| lbt | I plan to try lxc to see if that keeps it cleaner | 22:30 |
| lbt | but it's lower prio now | 22:30 |
| lbt | so sebas, you can make a vivaldi image now | 22:31 |
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| sebas | lbt: yes, it's building | 22:31 |
| sebas | downloading stuff right now, may take a while | 22:31 |
| lbt | good | 22:31 |
| sebas | how long does it take on your machines to roll an image? just to give me a ballpark idea | 22:32 |
| lbt | yeah - I stopped mine - my bandwidth is really bad right now | 22:32 |
| lbt | 2-5 mins | 22:32 |
| sebas | jumps between 250KB/s and 500 | 22:32 |
| sebas | ah, that's pretty quick, cool | 22:32 |
| vgrade | sebas, no too bad but i do have 100MB line | 22:32 |
| * sebas has 60MBit/s here | 22:33 | |
| lbt | I use an SSD for all the build/img things | 22:33 |
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| * lbt has <2MBits here ! | 22:33 | |
| sebas | this is also on an SSD | 22:33 |
| lbt | Mar 19 09:38:32 oak kernel: [11663502.831203] ATM dev 0: ADSL line is up (1792 kb/s down | 448 kb/s up) | 22:33 |
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| lbt | sebas: good - you'll obviously find the cache helps too | 22:34 |
| vgrade | sebas, you can also pick up the G9 kickstarts now as well and build those in the same way | 22:34 |
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| lbt | vgrade: I'll see what I can do about IMG - that's odd | 22:34 |
| sebas | cool =) | 22:34 |
| vgrade | lbt, if you reboot it lert me know an I'll submit another raw job | 22:35 |
| vgrade | lbt, is there a way to schedule a job on IMG? | 22:36 |
| lbt | yes, kinda :) | 22:37 |
| vgrade | aseigo, was looking for a way to automate the vivaldi builds | 22:37 |
| lbt | IMG is designed to be triggered by BOSS | 22:37 |
| lbt | oh, totall | 22:37 |
| lbt | y | 22:37 |
| vgrade | I thought you were going to say BOSS | 22:37 |
| lbt | actually when you use the frontend it runs a BOSS job | 22:37 |
| vgrade | I'll put that on the list | 22:37 |
| vgrade | to look at | 22:38 |
| lbt | oh, if they want automation it'll blow their minds :) | 22:38 |
| jbos | hi guys | 22:38 |
| lbt | o/ | 22:38 |
| vgrade | yea, I think aseigo was interested | 22:38 |
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| vgrade | jbos, evening | 22:38 |
| jbos | is there something like oprofile for mer / n950 | 22:38 |
| jbos | I have here an application running in pure gl + x11 on n9 its 20 fps | 22:39 |
| jbos | on n950 + mer its 5 | 22:39 |
| lbt | ouch | 22:39 |
| jbos | yep | 22:39 |
| lbt | well Stskeeps would love to help sort that out | 22:39 |
| lbt | we don't have any particular profiling apps atm | 22:40 |
| lbt | I'd be more than happy to help get them into Mer:Tools | 22:40 |
| jbos | so maybe its some 'unclear' build or something since its produced in N9 toolchain ... | 22:41 |
| lbt | is the app rebuilt for Mer? | 22:42 |
| jbos | and of course a quite complex setup ... anyway oprofile to figure out what is so slow would be awesome | 22:42 |
| jbos | nay | 22:42 |
| jbos | buidling take like 6 hours | 22:42 |
| jbos | ... | 22:42 |
| lbt | OBS :) | 22:42 |
| lbt | tmpfs builds with big machines | 22:43 |
| jbos | ye may i should put some time in this... | 22:43 |
| vgrade | sounds like n950 is sw and n9 is hw | 22:43 |
| jbos | its definitly hardware | 22:43 |
| jbos | doing real hardware stuff is fast... looks like its very slow on texture upload | 22:44 |
| jbos | but thats just a wild guess | 22:44 |
| lbt | don't suppose you can dual-boot the N9 ? | 22:44 |
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| lbt | morning cxl000 | 22:45 |
| cxl000 | morning lbt | 22:46 |
| jbos | no | 22:46 |
| lbt | nm | 22:46 |
| lbt | vgrade: can you log a bug for IMG raw builds please | 22:47 |
| jbos | basically its gecko webengine rending this: http://bubblemark.com/dhtml.htm | 22:47 |
| Stskeeps | | 22:47 |
| vgrade | lbt, adds another bug to his list | 22:48 |
| lbt | 153fps | 22:48 |
| jbos | it's shouldn't be the driver I think, it has the same extensions and such... on both devices | 22:49 |
| jbos | in fennec on n9 its even faster | 22:49 |
| jbos | very very unexpected... | 22:49 |
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| sebas | yay, first image build succeeded =) | 22:55 |
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| vgrade | sebas, \o/ | 22:56 |
| sebas | \o/ | 22:57 |
| vgrade | I'm going to start doing them on IMG which uses the slx machine once lbt has had a look at the loop issue on there so they will be readily downloadable | 22:57 |
| vgrade | we can look into some BOSS automation as well | 22:57 |
| sebas | good, good :) | 22:58 |
| vgrade | https://img.merproject.org/img/queue/ | 22:58 |
| sebas | can't log in there | 22:59 |
| lbt | could be arranged :) | 22:59 |
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| lbt | it's only closed to stop people running too many image builds | 23:00 |
| vgrade | good to have sebas on the list | 23:01 |
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| vgrade | and mdfe | 23:01 |
| * sebas is usually pretty tame | 23:02 | |
| sebas | :P | 23:02 |
| lbt | try now | 23:02 |
| lbt | had to add you to the LDAP group | 23:02 |
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| lbt | (assuming 'sebas' is your username on the mer bz?) | 23:03 |
| sebas | it is | 23:03 |
| vgrade | sebas, the new imnage is looking good, the polkit crashes have gone now I'm using devel polkit and the nepomuk, virtuoso, akondai things seem less intrusive now. | 23:03 |
| sebas | well, on the wiki anyway, not sure if that's bz, too? | 23:04 |
| vgrade | have loads more functionality, on the buld now | 23:04 |
| sebas | btw, about the caching, can I also share caches between osc and mic? | 23:04 |
| lbt | sebas: no, bz is the main Mer SSO | 23:04 |
| sebas | let me check if I have an account there | 23:04 |
| lbt | wiki needs to move at some point ... <<--- alterego!!!! | 23:04 |
| lbt | I don't think you do | 23:04 |
| sebas | where's bugzilla? | 23:06 |
| lbt | https://bugs.merproject.org/ | 23:06 |
| jbos | lbt does the mer kernel actually have build in oprofile device driver? | 23:07 |
| lbt | jbos: there is no mer kernel as such | 23:08 |
| lbt | Nemo has a kernel | 23:08 |
| lbt | Mer is basically from just above kernel (with some requirements on some CONFIG_*) to X/Qt | 23:09 |
| jbos | ok, well I indeed | 23:09 |
| lbt | each project provides their own kernel | 23:09 |
| lbt | OK - just being clear :D | 23:09 |
| jbos | I meant nemo :) | 23:09 |
| vgrade | CONFIG_OPROFILE_ARMV7=y | 23:10 |
| lbt | and I don't know that well enough - Sage_ is the man there | 23:10 |
| lbt | or vgrade apparently :) | 23:10 |
| vgrade | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=kernel-adaptation-n950.config&package=kernel-adaptation-n950&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9&rev=c78074f995df306bf1e9070bd6c3a822 | 23:10 |
| vgrade | CONFIG_OPROFILE=m | 23:11 |
| vgrade | CONFIG_HAVE_OPROFILE=y | 23:11 |
| lbt | and... I've found a couple of packages for meego | 23:11 |
| lbt | one of which is empty and one of which won't share their source... | 23:12 |
| lbt | :/ | 23:12 |
| lbt | and the only oprofile on cobs is empty | 23:14 |
| jbos | well well well :) lets see | 23:14 |
| jbos | cant be to hard to build it | 23:14 |
| lbt | I'm afraid you'll need to port it in from somewhere else - fedora or suse probably | 23:14 |
| jbos | handcrafted is always most awesome | 23:14 |
| lbt | if you do that then please use spectacle | 23:15 |
| vgrade | https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=oprofile&project=devel%3Atools | 23:16 |
| sebas | alrightie, bugzilla account "sebas" created :) | 23:17 |
| lbt | so in theory you can log right in to img now | 23:17 |
| sebas | yes I can | 23:22 |
| lbt | cool - OK, I'll leave you in vgrade's hands there ... off to bed early for once! | 23:23 |
| lbt | thanks for #240 vgrade | 23:23 |
| sebas | hehe, sleep well :) | 23:23 |
| lbt | not hard at the moment :) | 23:24 |
| lbt | o/ night all | 23:24 |
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| sebas | under which project should I put the zsh package? | 23:35 |
| vgrade | sebas, do you have it in your home now | 23:36 |
| sebas | not yet | 23:36 |
| sebas | I'll put it there for now | 23:36 |
| vgrade | yes then you can add your home repo and zypper in to sdk | 23:37 |
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| vgrade | and ping lbt to add it to tool project | 23:37 |
| vgrade | got my sponsorship confirmed to tizen conf today, just need to get the green light from the family | 23:38 |
| wmarone_ | sounds like it might be worth going to the conference | 23:41 |
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| vgrade | wmarone_ :) | 23:43 |
| wmarone_ | any word on if they accepted Stskeeps's presentation? | 23:44 |
| vgrade | don't think the speakers have been announced | 23:44 |
| * wmarone_ prods the intel reference board | 23:45 | |
| wmarone_ | soon as I hear I will probably be able to justify the time off to myself | 23:45 |
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| sebas | zsh package is in my home now, let's see if it builds | 23:47 |
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| vgrade | sebas, missing arch's in meta, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Building_against_Mer_in_COBS | 23:52 |
| vgrade | advanced then meta from home:sebas | 23:53 |
| sebas | ah :) | 23:53 |
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| vgrade | they don't get added correctly when adding the repos from the gui | 23:54 |
| vgrade | rip out those docs deps, | 23:57 |
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