Wednesday, 2012-03-21

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Stskeepsmorn07:39
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: morn07:43
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: I got the mpegtsdemux work for me. Now I can play ts files with qtmobiilty's demo.07:44
Stskeepsok, congratulations07:45
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: Maybe something is wrong with QMH, so I can't see the ts files in QMH. Have you ever played ts files in QMH?07:47
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StskeepsZiQiangHuan: no i haven't, perhaps it has a bad regexp somewhere07:49
Stskeepslike *.avi,*.ogg,*.ogv and missing .ts07:49
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: when I start QMH, I got the log http://pastie.org/364003307:52
StskeepsZiQiangHuan: looks like you need h264 and ac3  decoder too07:52
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: I have them07:52
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: I can play the same ts file in qt-mobility's demo player07:53
Stskeepshmm07:53
Stskeepssure they're registered properly in gstreamer?07:53
Stskeepsalso, a ts file isn't typically h264/ac3 is it? it's mpeg207:53
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* Stskeeps is happy to see eglibc 2.15 complete a x86 build to the end08:01
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Stskeepsmorn pirut :)08:10
phakoStskeeps: DVB-*2 is usually MPEG-TS + h.264 since you can't properly stream QT/MP408:13
Stskeepsphako: oh, interesting08:15
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pirutmorn Stskeeps !08:17
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slainemorning all08:18
Stskeepsmorn slaine08:19
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* Stskeeps begins a sb2-obs benchmarking test08:26
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Sage_Stskeeps, lbt: mer-kernel-check didn't made to the repos?08:35
StskeepsSage_: it didn't?08:35
Stskeepshmm08:35
Stskeepsi see it in mine08:36
* Sage_ ponders why his package can't find it08:36
Sage_btw, shouldn't that be noarch package?08:36
Sage_ah, kernel checks not check :)08:36
slaineHaving a bit of trouble setting up the OBS Webui VM08:43
slaineGetting problems with Rails08:43
slainehttp://pastebin.com/wZEAjqRm08:43
slaineAnyone any suggestions ?08:43
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slainemeh, just hand edited the gem spec file and fixed the date string08:50
slainelbt: you might want to update the OBS Setup with that detail, or fix the gemspec for ci_reporter if it's coming from the cobs repo08:51
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lbtmorning all09:05
Stskeepsmorn lbt09:05
* lbt checks backlog09:07
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lbttiny :)09:07
lbtSage_: Stskeeps made me change the name :P - is the wiki using the old one?09:08
lbtslaine: that's odd - I've not seen it before09:08
slaineRemoving the extended time from the gemspec date field solved the problem09:09
lbtquite possibly a suse issue09:09
slainenod09:09
lbtmentioned it in #obs09:10
slaineLooks like it came from them alright, Vendor: obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tools09:11
Stskeepslbt: heads up, monster's running sb2obs-benchmark the next 2 days09:12
lbtOK - I didn't want to do the LVM tidyup anyway :D09:12
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lbtI'll push that back to the weekendish09:13
lbttimoph: I did a new SDK image - ready to run some tests now09:14
timophcool09:15
lbtI know there are things wrong with it still09:16
lbtbut I wanted to see how I'd find the problems09:16
lbtdid you get as far as jotting anything down?09:17
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timophno yet09:17
timopht09:17
lbtOK - I'll use the wiki install instructions09:18
lbtfirst . coffee !09:18
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slainelbt, more weirdness, http://pastebin.com/n3DXybkn09:26
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lbtslaine: hmm09:34
lbtslaine :    cd /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/cache/ ; for i in *.gem ; do gem spec --ruby $i > ../specifications/${i}spec ; done09:36
lbtfor the first bug09:36
lbtthe second looks like an ugly deprecation warning09:37
slaineHmmm09:38
slaine[/usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/specifications/sqlite3-1.3.4.gemspec] isn't a Gem::Specification (NilClass instead).09:38
slaineWonder if I should have used OpenSuse 1209:38
lbtwhat are you using?09:39
slaine11.0409:39
lbt11.4 ?09:39
lbtyes09:39
slaineyeah, fully updated09:39
slaineShould I update to 12 ?09:40
lbtno09:41
slaineI did a minimal install09:42
lbtjust asking in #obs09:44
lbtwe're tracking their development to a degree but trying not to duplicate effort09:44
lbtdarix says http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/ruby:/extensions/openSUSE_11.4/devel:languages:ruby:extensions.repo is not needed09:45
lbtcan you show me your zypper lr09:45
slainesure09:47
slaineI did add that repo09:47
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slainehttp://pastebin.com/js5VisZ909:48
lbtMer OBS and Suse Vanilla OBS are either/or09:48
lbtin fact I think we should remove Suse vanilla09:48
slaineright09:49
lbthow hard would it be to reset?09:49
slainenot very09:49
slainewould probably be cleaner to reinstall that vm from scratch09:49
slaineI'll do that now09:49
lbtOK09:50
lbtI had such a sweet setup at one time - would deploy a blank vm network with several VMs ready to trial the installs :)09:50
slaineand I had a fish this big 'til it got away09:54
lbt:P09:54
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mdfe_Stskeeps: hi, I have some trouble with mesa changes again10:30
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mdfe_Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Project%3AKDE%3ATrunk%3ATesting10:31
Stskeepsgot really laggy connecton atm10:32
mdfe_you are building mesa and mesa-llvmpipe in mer core?10:33
Stskeepswhy on earth do you have mesa in there10:34
Stskeepsyou guys really need to seperate out your hardware adaptations into own obs projects :)10:35
mdfe_stop10:35
mdfe_mesa is only for meego build and disabled for mer10:35
Stskeepshttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=mesa&project=Project%3AKDE%3ATrunk%3ATesting shuldn't be there10:35
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Stskeepshmm10:36
Stskeepsthat looks like a similar problem like sage had10:36
mdfe_this does not cause the problem10:36
mdfe_any idea10:36
mdfe_?10:36
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mdfe_I will try "Prefer: mesa" in project config first10:38
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Stskeepsno, Prefer: mesa-llvmpipe10:40
mdfe_ok10:40
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Stskeepsgtg, this wifi is too laggy10:40
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lbtStskeeps: when you're back - what package should set /etc/rpm/platform ?10:42
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Sage_mdfe_: still please move those meego related stuff to separate project10:43
Sage_mdfe_: add Project:KDE:MeeGo_Deps and more those there10:44
mdfe_I do not have time for this at the moment10:44
mdfe_maybe at weekend10:44
Sage_Understandable but you should do it at some point10:44
mdfe_ack10:44
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slaineman that was one boring meeting11:05
* slaine yawns and goes to get some coffee11:05
Stskeepsmdfe_: Prefer: mesa-llvmpipe-libEGL mesa-llvmpipe-libEGL-devel mesa-llvmpipe-libGLESv2-devel mesa-llvmpipe-libGLESv2 mesa-llvmpipe-glapi11:05
slainelbt, just to confirm, when setting up this frontend VM again, I don't include the vanilla suse repo's detailed in the wiki ?11:06
lbtI fixed the wiki11:06
slaineI'll reload11:06
lbtthis is really useful too - thanks :)11:07
slaineoh no, thank you11:08
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slainelbt, Hmmm, just wondering, should I reset up the backend too ?11:10
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slaineI didn't run into the same problems though11:10
lbtslaine: if it has mixed repos - yes11:10
slaineok, I'll fire off a reinstall there too11:10
lbtthe risk is that some of the packages will come from suse OBS and some from Mer11:10
lbtI want to make sure we know exactly what we're supporting11:11
lbtalthough that's hard until we actually release an OBS11:11
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lbtat least I know you won't accidentally get given suse's ruby pkgs11:12
lbtStskeeps: when you're back - what package should set /etc/rpm/platform ?11:12
Stskeepslbt: it's usually done in .ks11:12
lbtOK - that sounds a bit hackish doesn't it?11:13
Stskeepsreasoning is that the runtime autodetection of architectures does not work properly11:13
Stskeepsit does, but that's how reality looks atm11:13
Stskeepsi'm a little surprised rpm doesn't get uname() right though11:13
Stskeepsin sb211:14
lbt*nod*11:14
lbtSBOX_UNAME_MACHINE=armv7hl11:15
Stskeepsit autodiagnoses that?11:15
Stskeepsfwiw, there's no 'armv7hl' uname11:15
Stskeepskernel has no perception of userland ABI11:15
lbtsb2-init takes it as an option11:16
Stskeepsick?11:16
Stskeeps:P11:16
lbterr11:16
lbtno, it guess it, my bad11:16
Stskeepsit autodiagnosed that, or you told it to?11:17
lbtyeah - the fact that there's no armv7hl uname is why I wasn't surprised to see armv7l-meego-linux being != zypper.conf the other day11:17
lbtit guessed it11:17
Stskeepsinteresting11:18
lbtUsing /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc to detect target architecture:11:18
Stskeepswell that explains one oddity i saw with sb2-obs11:18
lbtso ... "guessed"11:18
lbtsee - I want to go browse the rpm code in gitweb and I can't :(11:19
lbt(yet!)11:19
Stskeepsgit clone, untar11:19
StskeepsP11:19
lbt1.5Mb ADSL already busy doing SDK tests !11:19
lbtI hate BT11:19
lbtbut I do have a 2nd line ... if only I'd had time to configure it...11:20
lbtanyhoo11:20
Stskeepswell, i could be mean and say you already have packages-git locally ;)11:20
lbtI'm thinking that11:21
lbtone thing I have for MDS2 setup is to be able to run http and gitweb against it11:21
lbtI'd also like to be able to 'redirect' http://something.merproject.org/ to http://local.mds/11:22
lbtso I can use generic .ks against my local Mer11:22
Stskeepsmm11:22
* Stskeeps makes a mental note not to go into traffic today11:24
Stskeepssupposedly things are so gridlocked that trams are stuck in traffic and people opt to exit the tram and just walk11:25
Stskeeps:P11:25
lbtI really like not commuting11:25
Stskeepsso do i, but otoh, i don't get to enjoy audiobooks or reading email before going to the office11:25
Stskeepsotoh.. sofa11:26
Stskeeps:p11:26
StskeepsP11:26
slaine:(11:26
lbtindeed11:26
Stskeepsslaine: sorry11:26
Stskeeps:P11:26
* slaine spends 2 1/2 hours commuting a day11:26
lbt!11:26
Stskeepsslaine: does that in good irish style include a pass by the pub?11:26
Stskeeps:P11:26
slainelol, no, modern ireland means it's a pass by a coffee shop to get a mini-mega-milky-mocha11:27
lbtslaine: "there is a better way"11:27
slaineindeed11:27
lbtbut you have to make your own mocha :)11:27
slaineI make a damn good mocha11:27
lbtor go for the "hey, sweetie.. another coffee?"11:28
slainelol11:28
lbtI got "a look"11:28
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lbtapparently she's setting up some silly non-profit bank account and it makes her grumpy :D11:29
Stskeepsmdfe_: while i remember, have you encountered lockups in cmake-based libraries on ARM?11:29
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slaineSince having the family, I don't really have anywhere left to work at home now anyway11:30
slaineall the bedrooms are in use11:30
lbtyeah - that is a real issue11:30
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slaineI could convert the attic, but that's $$$11:31
slainewould also loose some space off one of the bed rooms to make room for a stairs up11:31
lbtso is 5hrs/day11:31
slaineNo, 2 1/2 total11:31
slaineroughly an hour and 15 mins door to door if I time it right11:32
lbtah, misread it11:32
lbtand I knew some people who did that insane level of commute11:32
slainecould be stuck  waiting for a bus and be longer or could hit a nice set of green traffic lights and a pocket in the traffic and get in sooner11:32
slaineI try and get in early, work through lunch and head off early11:32
lbt*nod*11:33
Stskeepslbt: btw, what's the need for fixing up LVM's if we're moving releases.* and prjfetcher to seperate VMs?11:33
Stskeepson monster, that is11:34
lbtmmm11:35
lbtoh,11:35
lbtmass data movement on the net tends to use a lot of cpu11:35
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Stskeepsah..11:36
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lbtyeah, I could probably find ways that didn't but don't want to screw benchmarks11:36
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lbtI don't mind a couple day delay - thinking time, doing some prep etc11:37
Stskeepsthat's ok11:37
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* Stskeeps heads out for some lunch11:50
Stskeepsbbl11:50
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Sage_lbt: some workers gone?11:57
lbtlots!11:58
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slainelbt, and it was going so well12:03
slainehttp://pastebin.com/GjSsq4Ym12:03
lbtmdfe_: Sage_: something in the PA build is killing workers - if you get an idea then please yell and I'll try to watch+debug12:04
lbtslaine: wtf12:04
slainelbt, want me to try again with --trace then ?12:05
lbtyeah ... this is usually a smooth process12:05
lbtI know phaeron was doing some updates and wonder if he got caught halfway through (he's been off ill for a while)12:06
slainepossible12:07
slainecan't run it a second time, bombs out 'cause the architectures table is already populated12:08
mdfe_lbt: uhh!?12:08
mdfe_killing workers?12:08
slaineI'll see if I can go back a step or two and drop those tables/DB and try again.12:08
lbtslaine: ta12:08
lbtmdfe_: yeah - it's a bug in OBS that's being triggered though12:09
lbtprobably to do with OOM or disk space causing tmpfs issues and the worker being marked bad12:09
slainelbt, I assume I just append --trace to the wiki listed commands ?12:11
lbtrake --trace db:setup12:12
lbtI think12:13
lbtbbiam12:14
slainek, ta12:14
slainelbt, here, not sure it's any better12:16
slainehttp://pastebin.com/b4m218qJ12:16
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slaineWonder should it be using :name as opposed to :long_name12:32
lbtback... looking12:33
slaineContext is a param to find_or_create_by_name12:33
slaine:long_name => "boost#%s"12:33
slaineIn the IssueTracker section12:34
slaineOf seed.rb12:35
lbtwhere is seed.rb ?12:40
lbtah, got it12:41
slainesorry, was distracted12:42
lbthttps://github.com/openSUSE/open-build-service/blob/master/src/api/db/seeds.rb12:44
lbthttps://github.com/openSUSE/open-build-service/commit/61e5f38d6eb9129b6cb1ef427393fcc3d4b6b0aa#src/api/db/seeds.rb is the commit that changed it12:45
lbtmumble12:46
slainethat's using :label in place of :long_name12:46
slaineI could roll back again, sed the file and try again12:46
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slaineor just pull down the latest version of the file12:47
slainewhat would you like me to try12:47
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lbthmm - I think I'm going to have to try this and maybe roll another package12:56
lbtI don't know where it was left12:56
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lbtI'm just checking the SDK now - then I should get that out soon and can look at this12:56
slaineWell, pulling down the latest version of the seeds.rb file worked, from the point of view that the rake command didn't barf in anyway12:56
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slaineI'll continue on with the next rake command12:57
lbtOK12:57
lbtit just pre-populates the DB - so if it works it should be fine12:57
slainegrand, well, second one worked too, so I'll keep going12:58
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lbtand frankly "issue trackers" aren't critical12:58
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slainepackage should be updated though so as not have cause this for future builds12:58
lbt*nod*12:59
lbtcan you log a quick high prio bug12:59
lbtassign to me12:59
slainesure12:59
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slainelbt, what section will I log it under, Infra >13:03
slaine?13:03
lbtMINT>OBS13:03
slaineSure, thansk13:03
slaine13:03
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Stskeepsok, attempt two at sitting on the sofa and coding..13:07
Stskeepsbrb, or bbl if my wifi goes mad again13:07
Stskeeps:P13:07
slainelbt #23413:08
lbtta13:08
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slainelbt, sorry, more questions13:19
slaineIn the WebUI setup, editing the DOWNLOAD_URL in /srv/www/obs/webui/config/environments/production.rb13:20
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slaineThe wiki details http://obs:82/13:20
slaineShould this be the url for my backend of frontend vm ?13:20
slaineI've dhcp/dns setup to provide fqdn to my vm's13:21
lbtright... so...13:23
lbt :)13:23
lbtthis is where you get your rpms from13:23
lbteg http://repo.pub.meego.com13:24
lbtnow those rpms are 'published'13:24
lbtfrom where they get stored on the backend13:25
lbttypically you'd run an rsync to a webserver13:25
lbtbut the quick'n'easy way is to setup http access to the main store13:25
lbtso you should find the apache config for :82 points to the /srv/obs/build/repos or something13:26
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slainek, getting some food and will continue after lunch13:28
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int_uaAre there a separate package with a (Nemo?) kernel? I need help locating repositories...13:40
Stskeepsbuild.pub.meego.com -> projects -> CE:Adaptation13:44
Stskeepsand #nemomobile is open for questions too13:44
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int_uaStskeeps: thanks a lot :)13:46
int_uaWow, firmwares!13:47
Stskeepswhat do you plan on using it for?13:47
int_uaI want to try it on Ubuntu on N900 (I hope you don't dislike it :) )13:48
Stskeepsi don't, just remember to read the licenses, as well as that you'll need ubuntu armhf13:48
Stskeepsand that if you get complaints about random crashes caused by thumb2, i told you so13:49
Stskeeps:P13:49
int_ua=D13:50
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int_uaAre you talking about CONFIG_ARM_ERRATA_430973 or something else?13:52
Stskeepsthat, and the later bugs found, combined with OMAP HS yields problems13:53
dm8tbrthere's several thumb2 errata for all 34xx silicon. you could say it has broken thumbs13:53
Stskeepsie, if you see mysterious problems, that's why13:53
int_uaI hope it's still better than old 2.6.35 without even 430973 and 3.x not booting at all13:55
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Stskeeps2.6.37 for n900 is the best kernel around beyond the .28 one13:58
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int_uaDid some patch after 2.6.37 make it non-bootable on N900?14:01
Stskeepsno, it's just that it requires significant update work14:01
Stskeepswe have a 3.0 kernel that got basic stuff working14:02
Stskeepsbut as you know, the 'official' n900 hardware adaptation team is no longer14:02
Stskeepswe've done our best to push out so people can use n900 for a long time yet, with modern systems14:02
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mdfe_lbt: any progress on osc related fixes for mer sdk?14:17
int_uaNodded several times but finished licence for wl1251. It doesn't restrict even redistributing for TI-manufactured devices, right?14:17
lbtmdfe_: hmm, I thought that was done... let me check14:18
Stskeepsint_ua: it's pretty cool license i thin14:18
Stskeepsk14:18
lbtmdfe_: yep, they got into the last release14:19
lbtso I just rolled an SDK: https://img.merproject.org/images/web/lbt/3-20120320-233432/latest/images/mer-sb2sdk-i486-chroot/14:20
lbtand I'm literally writing up SB2 docs as we speak14:20
mdfe_cool14:20
lbtyou should find zypper ref; zypper up14:20
mdfe_is the issue with "error: ^%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}$: regcomp failed: Invalid content of \{\}" also solved?14:21
lbtwill work for users who have repos using 'latest' instead of hardcoded mer releases14:21
lbtmdfe_: don't think so.14:21
mdfe_is it a big deal?14:21
lbtno - it's annoying because you need osc build --clean14:22
Stskeepsmdfe_: will be fixed in next mer release14:22
lbtand that can be a pita14:22
Stskeepsi just want to make sure that we don't break anything else trying to fix it :)14:22
mdfe_sure14:22
mdfe_:)14:22
mdfe_I will try out the new SDK image and confirm the fix14:23
mdfe_s/image/tarball/14:24
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lbtthanks14:24
lbtIf you confirm it works I'll move it to the proper location14:24
mdfe_:)14:25
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sledgeshello14:30
Stskeepsaftern00n sledges14:30
sledges8)14:30
sledgeshow is it going?14:30
Stskeepshow's the hacking going?14:30
sledgeslol Stskeeps straight to the point: http://pastie.org/364172114:31
sledges:)14:31
Stskeepsit's okay, waiting for eglibc 2.15 test results14:31
sledgesare we taking off meego OBS hosting ?14:31
Stskeepswell, the minutes are there from the meeting yesterday14:32
Stskeepsi'm mostly letting lbt do his thing and handle that side of things, so i am freed up for other things :)14:32
sledgesgood! :)14:32
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sledgesI'm suffering with <officially working kernel for imx53> :))14:33
Stskeepsyeah..14:33
Stskeepshardware adaptation fun14:33
sledgesMer doesn't like it (but I want touchscreen support for Lipstick QML demo to our sales team)14:33
Stskeepsany reception to lipstick from people seeing it?14:34
slainelbt, some pointers if you can. I'm having trouble with my Admin login to the frontend14:36
sledgesStskeeps, very very positive14:36
sledgesin our industry14:36
lbtAdmin/opensuse14:36
lbtsledges: good :)14:36
sledgeshas Mer/Xwindows got any minimal kernel version req (I run 2.6.35.3)14:37
Stskeepssledges: 2.6.32 or above14:37
lbt2.6.32-ish14:37
Stskeepsplus few patches14:37
sledgesthen why is it sad?... http://pastie.org/364172114:37
sledgesnot even a login shell14:37
slainelbt, Yup, actually, I got a different message that time and might be on the right track14:37
lbtsledges: have you seen the kernel adaptation page and CONFIG_ checklist?14:38
Stskeepssledges: i'd need to see entire bootup log14:38
lbtslaine: OK - if needed we'll look at the logs and up the logging level - good stuff to know14:38
slainenod14:38
sledgeslbt: no14:39
sledges(blush)14:39
lbthttp://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide14:39
lbtalso14:39
lbthttp://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step14:39
slainelbt, hmmm, no joy that time, message is "access denied by $ipaccess rules"14:40
lbtmainly because it has a script that does the checks for you (which needs syncing with the table - my bad)14:40
* sledges reading http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide14:40
lbtslaine: aha14:40
lbtstupid thing14:40
slaineI've checked the api production file and it's using the right url14:40
lbtis this all one host?14:40
lbtit's not is it14:40
slaineI can also browse to that url and get the backends xml14:40
slainelbt, no, spread out14:41
lbtcool14:41
lbtso.... on the be server in BSConfig.pm14:41
slaineweb/backend/worker <tbd>14:41
lbtin /usr/lib/obs/server/ I think14:41
lbtthe top of that file14:41
slaineyup14:42
slainemy $ip = quotemeta inet_ntoa(inet_aton($hostname)); # IP corresponding to hostname (only used for $ipaccess)14:42
lbtyeah ...14:43
lbtadd a line in to the regexp list there that has the fe ip address14:43
lbtbeing aware of multi-homing which you may not be using14:44
slaineAh14:44
lbtrw14:44
lbtit's a bit .... ambiguous?14:44
slaineso at the moment the be is only letting localhost or the ip of the localhosts domain name access14:44
lbtto be polite :)14:44
lbtyes14:44
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slainewell, then how could I can browse to it14:45
lbthey, just be glad I patched the error message - it took me *hours* to figure this one out14:45
slaineI see the following, <hello name="Source Repository Server" repoid="593022732"/>14:45
lbtyeah - some stuff is fe only14:45
slainelbt, lol, ok14:45
slainesuggest update the wiki so14:45
lbt"permission denied" it said14:46
lbt"no shit" I said14:46
lbt"permission denied" it said14:46
lbtI hit it14:46
virtuald"bus error"14:47
lbt:)14:47
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timophlbt: is the new sdk image somewhere in the interwebs?14:51
sledgeslbt, Stskeeps, CGROUPS=y was not in, recompiled, same problem; full bootlog: http://pastie.org/364187214:59
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Stskeepssledges: what mer release?15:02
* sledges will try to fallback to xorg+qmlviewer base version in parallel15:03
sledgesStskeeps, mer-sdk-i486-chroot-0.20120209.115:03
Stskeepssledges: yeah, get xorg+qmlviewer and glestest up first15:04
sledgesdon't know how to identify exactly which Mer was used, but it was pulled from repo --name=mer-core --baseurl=http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/armv7l/packages/ --save --debuginfo two days ago (or maybe stayed cached in sdk)15:05
Stskeepslbt: see, that's why i don't like /latest/15:05
Stskeeps:P15:05
sledgesit seems Xorg is running, I can switch with Ctrl+Alt+Fn and get cursor blinking on the LCD, so must be lipstick spoildness :)15:05
sledgesbecause I got lipstick running fine on linaro kernel (but no touchscreen). now I'm using ltib's one15:06
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Stskeepswhat's the touchscreen driver name?15:06
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Stskeepsmorn bigbluehat15:07
bigbluehathi yeah :)15:11
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lbtStskeeps: well, having a mer-upgrade command to change all the zypper.d/ repos to numbered ones would do as well15:17
Stskeeps:nod:15:17
lbtI'm quite tempted actually15:18
lbttask ?15:18
Stskeepswell15:18
Stskeepsi think you should take a look at the meego.com requirements for system updates15:18
lbtI thought the design there was "no updates"15:19
Stskeepsit was under development15:19
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mdfe_lbt: I can confirm Bug221 and Bug222 are fixed in https://img.merproject.org/images/web/lbt/3-20120320-233432/latest/images/mer-sb2sdk-i486-chroot/mer-sb2sdk-i486-chroot-latest.tar.bz215:32
lbtmdfe_: great - thanks15:32
mdfe_lbt:15:33
mdfe_but additional package15:33
mdfe_'bsdtar' needs to be installed via zypper15:33
lbtmmm15:33
mdfe_will you get a message about it15:34
lbtyep - fixed in .ks15:34
lbtjust now15:34
lbtI'll push that and rebuild the image15:34
mdfe_cool15:34
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lbtmdfe_: OK, new image building15:40
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int_uaIs armv7hl different from armhf?15:50
Stskeepsno, same thing15:52
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slainelbt, setting up the worker vm atm16:02
slainecan't locate the obs-worker package mentioned in the wiki16:02
slainewondering if that was being pulled from the obs vanilla repos and isn't packaged for the Mer one16:02
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slaineStskeeps: is it normal to see no files under the directories here ? http://repo.pub.meego.com/Mer:/Tools/openSUSE_11.4/16:11
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Stskeepsmore of a lbt question16:12
Stskeepsi'd think not16:12
mdfe_lbt: is there any docu about how this sb2 stuff works in collaboration with osc?16:12
slaineI think the wiki is wrong and I should be adding the testing repo, http://repo.pub.meego.com//Mer:/OBS:/Testing/openSUSE_11.4/Mer%3aOBS%3aTesting.repo16:14
Stskeepsjust think of it as it setting up a mer file system with a host and target file system, and using sb2 within the host file system to run commands in target fast16:14
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Aardlbt: 'Message: undefined method `strip' for nil:NilClass' when trying to search in cobs18:01
Stskeepsclick search icon on the frontpage instead18:02
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lbtAard: phaeron fixed it and will deploy it when he's better18:26
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Aardwhen will he be better? :)18:29
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lbttimoph: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB219:35
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* Stskeeps looks19:38
lbtta... was just going to ask you to review it19:39
lbtcurrently the SDK is 'latest' flavoured19:39
lbtwhich at least means zypper up will 'always' work :)19:40
Stskeepsthe parentroot stuff is a bit awkward19:40
Stskeepsbut considering that sdks are throwaway...19:40
Stskeepsthen that's maybe more acceptable19:40
lbtand I feel it's better to be explicit than magically link /srv to parentroot/srv19:41
Stskeeps:nod:19:41
Stskeepsagain one worry is that / isn't terribly big for many compared to their /home's, but i guess we'll see how that pans out19:42
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lbtbut ...phew - it takes time to write and verify this stuff19:42
Stskeepsit'll pay off at some point19:42
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lbtI think that by seeing it 'go wrong' it's clearer what each step does too19:43
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timophlbt: good stuff19:52
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lbttimoph: let me know if there are any issues20:19
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timophwill do20:20
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mdfelbt: what do you think about to bind mount also the host /var/osbuild-packagecache into the mer SDK?20:41
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lbtmdfe: which one?20:42
lbtthe osc one?20:42
mdfeyes20:42
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lbtyeah, well worth it - I do that like this:20:43
lbthttp://pastie.org/364370320:43
lbtI use /maemo/obs/build/* as my osc root20:44
lbtthats ~/.meroscrc20:44
mdfecool!20:44
lbtthats ~/.mersdkrc :)20:44
lbtnote - we need to do some tricky things for sb2 aswell20:44
lbtsee http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2 at the end20:45
lbtdon't tell Stskeeps but I accidentally commited my personal version of the sb2 mode file20:45
Stskeepsyou did what20:45
lbtanother way to look at it - it has examples to map more than just /home20:45
lbtonly to Mer:Tools:Testing20:46
lbtwhich is why I split the sdk-mode from sb2 into sdk-sb2-config package20:46
Stskeepsok20:46
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lbtsee -- I even came clean: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Directory_Mappings20:47
lbtStskeeps: surely you saw that when you reviewed it ;P20:47
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Stskeepshello madscientist21:14
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int_uaCan I use alien with armv7hl package somehow in armhf chroot? Will rpm->tgz->deb work?21:24
* sebas has build problems in the SDK21:25
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sebasdifferent problems on two machines (opensuse 12.1 x86_64 hosts), one bombs out during chroot setup with:21:25
sebaspreinstalling xz-libs...21:25
sebasinitializing rpm db...21:25
sebaschroot: cannot run command `rpm': Exec format error21:25
Stskeepssebas: within the sdk?21:26
sebason the other machine, the build starts, but hangs during cmake checks, no CPU or disk going on, in different runs, it hangs at different checks and just sits there21:26
sebasStskeeps: yes, both cleanly set up21:26
sebasthe "hang" machine has the new packages installed, that you told me about21:26
Stskeepscmake hanging is sadly no surprise21:26
sebasthe "rpm exec format error" doesn't21:27
Stskeepsit does that once in a while21:27
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Stskeepsrpm exec format error means you're not using the right packages to build with21:27
Stskeepsie, osc/build21:27
sebasosc -A https://api.pub.meego.com build CE_UX_PlasmaActive_armv7l armv7el --local-package --no-verify21:27
sebasthat's the exec format build21:27
sebaspicked the arguments from this page: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel21:28
Stskeepsright21:28
sebasthat's inside the kdepim package checkout21:28
Stskeepsyou need mer osc/build to build right21:29
sebashow do i get that?21:29
Stskeepswell, the sdk21:29
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sebasI'm doing that build  inside the SDK21:30
sebasditched the buildroot before running it21:30
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Stskeepshmm21:30
Stskeepssounds like a lbt question :021:31
Stskeepscan you document the steps to get to that problem?21:31
sebas- setup clean sdk21:31
sebas- checked out Project:KDE:Devel/kdepim21:31
sebas- zyp dup'ed inside sdk21:32
sebas- tried osc build with above parameters21:32
sebasis there any way to improve my luck with the cmake thing?21:32
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Stskeepsi'd need to see your build log21:33
sebashttp://paste.kde.org/44433221:34
mdfesebas hi21:35
sebashey mdfe :)21:35
mdfeI allready updated akonadi to 1.7.1 and kdepim stuff to 4.7.121:35
sebasmdfe: still trying to get my packaging setup worky-worky21:35
mdfe4.8.121:35
sebasah, that rocks21:36
Stskeepsok, so what you are running into is a problem that exists with cmake and qemu21:36
sebasdid you update kdepim kdepimlibs and kdepim-runtime21:36
Stskeepscmake is doing some bizarre threading and qemu hates it21:36
mdfeyes21:36
mdfefor an hour or so21:36
sebashmm21:36
Stskeepsif you can replicate this regularly, i'm sure there's people who might want to talk to you21:36
sebasmdfe: they're in Testing?21:36
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mdfeno devel21:37
sebasStskeeps: happened about 5 times in a row, basically every time I tried until now21:37
sebasit's a quad core21:37
Stskeepssebas: interesting21:38
Stskeepssebas: let's take a look at that tomorrow?21:38
sebasmdfe: ow, right. Very cool though, thanks a lot21:38
mdfesebas I know is issue21:38
sebasStskeeps: sure, I'm there all day, I'll ping you?21:38
Stskeepso21:38
Stskeepsok21:38
sebascool :)21:39
mdfeyou are working with mer sdk?21:39
sebasyep21:39
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sebasmostly pretty nice, much better than scratchbox(1)21:39
mdfeok, lbt creates today a new SDK chroot with this issue fixed21:40
sebassetup was a lot easier than that21:40
mdfeI will point you to this21:40
Stskeepshttp://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/merarch3.png - Mer architecture starting to look nicer21:40
sebasmdfe: which issues exactly? The QEmu hangs?21:40
mdfehttps://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22221:40
mdfehttps://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22121:41
mdfemaybe the new SDK is allready upstream21:41
sebasah, right, I ran into #221 as well21:41
mdfeIf not take the one which is in latest comment21:42
mdfebe careful by deleting the old sdk21:43
sebasis untarring the chroot in my existing one a good idea, or should I rather always use a clean chroot?21:43
mdfeif not umounted you will delete your hole /21:43
lbtI wander off for 10 mins and see what happens :)21:44
sebaslbt: we timed that nicely =)21:44
mdfe:)21:44
mdfeis the updated sdk allready upstream?21:44
lbtupstream?21:45
mdfeI mean at the common download location21:45
lbtyes21:45
sebasI think mdfe means here: https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/latest/images/mer-sdk-i486-chroot/21:45
mdfemdfe hugs lbt21:45
lbt:D21:45
lbtsebas - don't untar into existing sdk, make a new one21:46
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lbtSDKs are supposed to be disposable21:46
mdfeand be carefull!21:47
lbtyes, the umount step is not something I can check for21:47
mdfemake sure it is not mounted anymore21:47
sebaslbt: aye, thanks21:47
lbtnormal operation doesn't need this btw - zypper up should work for most people most of the time21:48
lbtbut we need to sort out a few little tricks first - currently we rely on the releases having a latest/ symlink which can cause confusion21:48
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sebasis there any way I can install zsh inside the sdk? :)21:50
lbtyes21:51
lbtport it to Mer and install it :)21:51
sebask, so it's not packaged?21:51
lbtno21:51
* sebas puts that on the list21:51
mdfelbt: what do you think about a umount trap like mic-chroot did for the mer sdk?21:53
Stskeepssebas: can probably steal packaging from Meego.com srpm for zsh21:54
lbtthat's how I originally wrote it mdfe21:54
lbtso the mounts happened as you entered the chroot21:54
lbtand as you left it umounted21:54
mdfeand you dropped it?21:54
sebasStskeeps: yep, I think it has been packaged for meego21:54
lbtmultiple consoles21:54
sebasgotta have a look21:55
lbtmeant I had to ref-count the mounts ... bad idea :)21:55
lbtyou can have multiple windows/shells be in the SDK at once21:55
mdfehm21:55
lbtit's just a chroot21:56
* Stskeeps argues we should run screen or emacs inside the sdk and runs21:56
lbtI agree - when we use lxc21:56
mdfelxc?21:56
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lbtlightweight containers21:56
lbtchroot on steroids with process containment21:57
lbtwhich means if I kill the SDK any rogue mic's die21:57
lbtand mic goes rogue a lot !21:57
* sebas takes a note to not do SDK futzing drunk21:58
lbtthe nice thing about lxc is that processes run in the same kernel as your normal processes21:58
lbtsebas: yeah - I've come close to "oops"21:58
sebasdeleting such huge directory trees with (hopefully un)mounted stuff all over is scary21:58
lbtwell, yeah21:59
* sebas checked thrice if no mounts were left before sudo rm -rf *21:59
mdfemount command is your friend21:59
lbtI'd rather make it a very rare occurence with explicit fear21:59
lbtI thought about running something that watched a file - but you can't guarantee rm -rf deletion order22:01
sebaslbt: sdk's looking sweet, btw22:01
lbtthanks - it's been a slog :)22:01
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mdfeimho we should not make this sdk too complex22:02
sebasfeels fairly light, and quite easy to set up22:02
mdfeI like it too!22:02
lbtmdfe: nope, I was worried about that - it's about as complex as I want it to get22:02
lbtmy real concern is, like sebas said, fear of data loss22:03
sebasI'd like to offer an  easy way to get everything set up so you can build packages for your own app (that's the app development platform)22:03
mdfeme too22:03
lbtyeah - we're looking to extend the SDK concept (somehow) to fit into Qt-Creator22:03
mdfewithout stress with different linux distributions22:03
lbtthen someone said "windows"22:03
sebasnice22:03
mdfehehe22:04
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lbtthat's why we're looking at a VM version too22:04
lbtsimilar concept - shell only inside a virtualbox22:04
lbtprobably init=bash22:05
lbt*possibly* need to be running sshd .... we'll see22:05
sebasif it's just for a package build, one could rsync the source into the VM, and rsync the package out, that way, no need to bind-mount home directories22:05
sebasbut slower22:05
lbtthe problem is the hack/build/hack... cycle22:06
sebasyep, exactly22:06
lbtI have an emacs open and editing /home/david/src/22:06
lbtand it's visible in the SDK22:06
sebasright22:06
lbtI also use gitk on the desktop22:06
sebasyeah, the source wants to be on the host, fully agree22:07
lbthmm - I did mean to try setting immutable attr on the mountpoints22:08
lbtas part of the "sdk mount" command22:08
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lbtI think a nice patch to "rm -rf" would be "by default don't traverse into directories marked immutable"22:11
lbtsince --one-filesystem doesn't work with a bind-mount to the same fs22:11
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Stskeepsbbl sleep22:18
lbtg'night22:20
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* lbt looks at rpm coding style and sighs22:20
lbtwhy bother indenting a for () loop eh?22:21
sebasbuild is running fine now, it seems22:23
sebaswith the updated sdk, on the machine that showed the rpm exec format earlier22:24
lbtyep - that's good/expected - you have a new version of osc and build22:25
sebasdoes this update also help with my hangs in cmake?22:34
lbtno, it's very unlikely22:38
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sebasYay. Just built my first set of Mer packages =)22:54
sebasthanks guys!22:54
lbtsebas: cool :)22:55
sebas\o/22:56
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vgradesebas. \o/22:58
vgradehow you finding it?22:58
vgradeI'm on viv kernel packaging tonight23:00
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trip0ivi kernel?23:02
lbthehe23:02
trip0:P23:02
vgradespark23:03
lbthttp://aseigo.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/spark-becomes-vivaldi.html23:03
trip0O_O23:03
trip0you can get them now?23:03
vgradeyou can get zenethink c7123:04
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trip0ooo23:06
trip0vgrade, is that what you are working with?23:07
trip0or do you have pre-release vivaldi?23:07
vgradesame thing23:07
* trip0 wonders how many watts that thing consumes...23:08
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sebasvgrade: setup of the sdk was pretty easy, "feels" quite nice and flexible23:12
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sebasfits nicely into my workflow as well23:12
vgradesebas, the guys are doing a great job there23:12
* sebas agrees and applauds to that!23:13
vgradeI've spent hours over the years to get mic, osc build working on various distros23:13
sebasbtw, I picked up an Archos G8 80 the other week23:13
sebasdo we have a suitable image for such a device?23:13
vgradeI can't remember, let me check wiki23:14
sebasI'm running ICS on it right now23:14
sebasit came with android 3.223:14
vgradeI don't think we've had a recent mer but I'm sure we had a meego on it.sec23:15
* sebas finds that Android's UI is missing lots of love23:15
vgradehttp://dev.openaos.org/wiki/Gen8Linux2.6.3723:16
vgradelooks like a good starting point23:16
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sebasvgrade: how's the kernel work going, btw?23:17
vgradeget a kernel built with the options from http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide23:17
sebaswhich version?23:18
vgradesebas, getting a package up tonight23:18
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vgradei'd start with http://www.openaos.org/wp-upload/gen8/2011-08-31/23:19
sebasah, no, I meant the vivaldi kernel :)23:20
vgradewith a g9 basyskom image on part 2 of an sdcard23:20
vgradesry, 2.6.3423:20
sebasflashing the main drawsomething and wordfeud device would make the girlfriend unhappy23:20
_av500_sebas: G9 8023:20
_av500_gen8 has no 8023:20
_av500_vgrade: so the gen8 link does not apply23:21
sebas_av500_: right, gen923:21
sebaswasn't that actually the device mdfe was working with?23:21
sebasor did he have g10 stuff already?23:21
vgradeno g9,23:21
mdfeyepp23:22
vgrademdfe, |023:22
vgrade\023:22
mdfe:)23:22
sebasmdfe: yo!23:22
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vgradesebas, mdfe and I have 'special' g9's which allow booting kernel from sdcard but sde firmware will be out soon to allow retail units to do similar23:23
_av500_yep23:24
sebasvgrade: cool.23:24
mdfe:D23:24
* sebas is going bedward23:27
sebasg'night al23:27
sebasl23:27
vgradesebas, night, I'll catch you later, I need to talk about KDE ev stuff re OBS23:27
sebasyep, we'll do that23:28
lbtme too23:29
lbtwhen I'm awake23:29
lbtnow I just watch the pretty lights flashing and blinking .... flashing and blinking...23:29
mdfesee ya23:30
vgradenight23:31
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