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iekku | morning | 05:28 |
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dm8tbr | moaning | 05:54 |
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sonach | Stskeeps: morning, | 05:55 |
Stskeeps | morn, not entirely awake yet | 05:56 |
sonach | ah, take morning coffee first:) | 05:56 |
Stskeeps | jbos: automatic screen updates are impossible on n950, best thing you can do is manual 'doupdate' with fb_update_mode | 06:02 |
sonach | Stskeeps: I copy source code of 'ezwebkit' to rpmbuild/BUILD/ manually, and execute 'make'. It will do 'cp -p config.h ../include/config.h', and outputs error: cp: cannot create regular file `../include/config.h': Permission denied. | 06:02 |
sonach | Stskeeps: Why will it report 'Permission denied | 06:02 |
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Stskeeps | sonach: ok, first off: is this inside obs or a osc chroot or where is it going on | 06:05 |
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Stskeeps | ? | 06:13 |
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kulve | Found v1.4 driver, enabling brokenTexSubImage | 06:42 |
kulve | Found non-Nokia v1.4 driver, enabling brokenFBOReadBack | 06:42 |
kulve | interesting debug prints from the TI's driver | 06:42 |
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Stskeeps | that's from Qt, actually | 06:43 |
Stskeeps | it makes sure your fonts doesn't look like crap :) | 06:43 |
kulve | oh | 06:43 |
Stskeeps | did you try out the opengl stuff yet? | 06:47 |
dm8tbr | ah the famous b0rken fonts bug, what was it 5616? | 06:47 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 06:47 |
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kulve | Stskeeps: I did but I got just a whitescreen. Then I was testing without mcompositor and released that my debug build of the SGX stuff might be a bit slow.. | 06:49 |
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Stskeeps | kulve: yeah, that isn't helping either | 06:51 |
Stskeeps | try an instance of widgetsgallery -graphicssystem opengl on it's own at some point too | 06:52 |
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vgrade | monring | 07:07 |
kulve | widgetsgallery has better (to somewhat at least) FPS with "-graphicssystem opengl" than without (I'm not running mcompositor now) but many of the graphics are broken | 07:07 |
kulve | those SGX SDK examples run really smoothly but they are just 320x200 | 07:09 |
Stskeeps | out of curiousity, how much fps? | 07:10 |
Stskeeps | morn vgrade | 07:10 |
kulve | Stskeeps: can I see the exact number somehow? | 07:11 |
Stskeeps | isn't there a -show-fps command ? (run with --help or -help) | 07:12 |
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kulve | if you mean those OGLES2Skybox2 etc. binaries, then no, --help, -help nor -show-fps do nothing | 07:13 |
Stskeeps | oh, i meant widgetgallery | 07:13 |
kulve | hmm.. Where should I see that -show-fps..? | 07:15 |
Stskeeps | widgetsgallery -show-fps should show on screen | 07:16 |
kulve | I don't see anything that could be FPS count. And looks like all the pixmaps are garbage | 07:17 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 07:17 |
kulve | garbage that resembles remotely the real graphics | 07:17 |
Stskeeps | interesting | 07:17 |
Stskeeps | -log-fps instead? | 07:17 |
kulve | http://pastie.org/3575826 | 07:18 |
Stskeeps | ok | 07:19 |
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kulve | http://pastie.org/3575828 | 07:20 |
kulve | not exactly the same use cases though | 07:21 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:21 |
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niqt | morning and goog week :D | 07:22 |
kulve | OGLES2 demos looks a bit odd with the mcompositor running. They are show twice. I guess the compositor shows it once there and the application itself renders it directly to the screen | 07:24 |
sonach | Stskeeps: (sorry, just have a meeting. ) It is inside osc chroot. | 07:25 |
Stskeeps | sonach: ok, and how do you put ezwebkit into rpmbuild/BUILD ? | 07:25 |
sonach | Stskeeps: I do 'svn checkout' under rpmbuild/BUILD, | 07:26 |
Stskeeps | ok, ls -al and verify the files are owned by 'abuild' | 07:26 |
Sage_ | lbt: would be nice if someone could fix this obs but that prevents me compiling stuff in here https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl | 07:27 |
Sage_ | lbt: so how to say to obs that _don't_ use the rpm's in build of others | 07:27 |
Stskeeps | useforbuild ? | 07:27 |
Sage_ | the flag in repositories doesn't seem to work | 07:27 |
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sonach | Stskeeps: Yes, the files are "1000:1000". ezwebkit is the same as webkit-backend-x11, and webkit-backend-x11 is the result of 'osc build'. | 07:28 |
sonach | Stskeeps: maybe "1000:1000" is 'abuild'? | 07:28 |
Stskeeps | sonach: cat /etc/passwd | grep abuild inside the chroot | 07:29 |
sonach | Stskeeps: ah, 399.. abuild::399:399:Autobuild:/home/abuild:/bin/bash | 07:30 |
sonach | Stskeeps: so I should do chown? | 07:30 |
Stskeeps | yeah probably | 07:30 |
sonach | Stskeeps: yes, the build progresses:) | 07:32 |
timoph | interesting bug in qtcreator (seems to be fixed in master though) - type a function pointer declaration with bad syntax and it crashes. something like void *(*foo)(int bar) { } | 07:33 |
Stskeeps | timoph: function pointers can screw up the best person | 07:34 |
timoph | yep | 07:34 |
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timoph | saunabad bumped into that yesterday | 07:35 |
* timoph doesn't really use function pointers that often :) | 07:35 | |
timoph | anyway. Does anyone have something against making the sdk meeting time fixed (fridays 10utc)? | 07:43 |
kulve | Stskeeps: any hints if there could be something to debug with Qt & OGL? In Qt applications the pixmaps are mess and the mcompositor shows just white. If I start an application, like the widgetsgallery, it is visible in the fullscreen mode but everything goes white if I move away from it | 07:55 |
w00t | kulve: are you running meegotouchhome as well? | 08:00 |
kulve | yes, looks like it | 08:00 |
kulve | I'm running a nemo image pretty much as-is | 08:01 |
w00t | echo $QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM says what? | 08:01 |
kulve | nothing but QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM says "opengl" | 08:02 |
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mdfe_ | good morning | 08:26 |
Stskeeps | morn mdfe_ | 08:26 |
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Stskeeps | mdfe_: we'll have a prerelease today with http://pastie.org/3576093 as content | 08:29 |
mdfe_ | thats huge | 08:30 |
Stskeeps | could be worse | 08:31 |
mdfe_ | I will build a testing mer pre release image | 08:31 |
Stskeeps | yeah, haven't published it yet but it should be arriving in _next something latest evening | 08:32 |
mdfe_ | ok | 08:32 |
Stskeeps | you will probably see regressions on x86 until we make a intel specific Mesa | 08:32 |
Stskeeps | but llvmpipe will allow you fast graphics in virtual machines | 08:32 |
mdfe_ | has something to be changed in my ks files? | 08:33 |
Stskeeps | eventually yes | 08:33 |
mdfe_ | additional llvmpipe package | 08:34 |
mdfe_ | we will see | 08:34 |
Stskeeps | ah no, additional mesa-intel-* | 08:34 |
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Stskeeps | llvmpipe will be standard in mer | 08:34 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: in release notes it should be said that systemd moved to journal thingy and dmesg doesn't contain all messages anymore. | 08:36 |
Stskeeps | true | 08:36 |
Sage_ | will be surprice for many | 08:36 |
Stskeeps | got a doc on how to use it? | 08:36 |
Sage_ | systemd-journalctl was the command that outputs the log IIRC | 08:37 |
Sage_ | don't have it installed on any system atm. so can't check on running system | 08:38 |
* Sage_ gets doc | 08:39 | |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://lwn.net/Articles/474968/ search journalctl | 08:42 |
Stskeeps | o | 08:42 |
Stskeeps | k | 08:42 |
* Sage_ thinks it is monday as he is unable to find the man page from systemd git tree | 08:42 | |
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Stskeeps | morn slaine | 08:54 |
slaine | morn | 08:55 |
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lbt | morning all | 09:08 |
Stskeeps | morn lbt | 09:08 |
slaine | morn lbt | 09:09 |
Stskeeps | lbt: please do 0.20120315.0.1 prerelease today | 09:09 |
lbt | Stskeeps: sure | 09:09 |
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phaeron | Hello | 09:10 |
lbt | Sage_: I thought that was fixed ... I'll look | 09:10 |
lbt | phaeron: hey there | 09:10 |
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phaeron | long time .. | 09:10 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: http://sridattalabs.com/2012/02/06/rabbit-holes-being-smart-hurts-prod/ | 09:12 |
slaine | hey phaeron | 09:14 |
lbt | hehe... I sure feel the need for the large "WTF was I supposed to be doing" occasionally :) | 09:14 |
phaeron | slaine: hey | 09:17 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: can i get you to review https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=Mer%3AQt5 ? | 09:17 |
Stskeeps | any insights/problems and no we can't use yaml | 09:17 |
alterego | And my IPC is meant for many processes/nodes it implements a whole gateway routing protocol in JSON, quite cool :) | 09:18 |
Stskeeps | alterego: wrong window? | 09:18 |
Stskeeps | :P | 09:18 |
alterego | Oh, wrong window. | 09:18 |
alterego | lol | 09:18 |
alterego | Stskeeps: ^ :D | 09:18 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: OK - ci looks idle, have you tagged? | 09:22 |
Stskeeps | lbt: no, i can do that now | 09:22 |
lbt | I'll give it a go | 09:22 |
Stskeeps | tag pushed | 09:23 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: so we'll skip qt sync today? | 09:26 |
* phaeron tries to remember what my job is | 09:26 | |
lbt | Stskeeps: any reason? | 09:26 |
Stskeeps | lbt: well, dunno, for starters ahma isn't here | 09:26 |
* lbt prods Bostik to prod ahma :) | 09:27 | |
Stskeeps | unless you have any news | 09:27 |
lbt | I just wanted a quick check to see if we're on track | 09:27 |
lbt | it's been quiet during the week | 09:27 |
Stskeeps | looks fairly good to me, some failures on some arm distros but they're fairly known i think | 09:27 |
Stskeeps | distros=ports | 09:27 |
lbt | OK, we're here if needed | 09:28 |
Bostik | oy | 09:28 |
lbt | hey | 09:28 |
Bostik | was having lunch and juggling work stuff | 09:28 |
lbt | (Stskeeps: pre-release pull underway) | 09:28 |
* lbt goes to find notes from last Qt meeting - see if there was anything outstanding | 09:29 | |
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Stskeeps | we can't integrate before friday anyway, so still some time to run on | 09:31 |
slaine | Damn Via hardware, it's the bane of my existence. | 09:35 |
_av500_ | Via still exists? | 09:36 |
_av500_ | and if yes, why? | 09:36 |
lbt | BIOS testing? | 09:36 |
slaine | They do, but also, I've legacy hardware to support, getting harder and harder | 09:37 |
slaine | At the time, the Via CLE-266 made a great choice for an embedded x86 box, could do partial MPEG2 decoding offloaded from the low power CPU, could be passively cooled | 09:38 |
slaine | We used them in STB's, bedside terminals and Vending machines | 09:38 |
slaine | The Vending machines are really the only devices left in heavy use and I just got a report that they're no longer booting up on the latest build, nothing should have changed that low level though. | 09:40 |
slaine | there goes my day | 09:40 |
niqt | i have cle-266 :( | 09:41 |
Stskeeps | make them on their dying breath push out all the candy | 09:41 |
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slaine | niqt: I've one running mythtv at home under heavy daily use | 09:41 |
slaine | Stskeeps: lol | 09:41 |
niqt | slaine have you tried with mer? | 09:42 |
slaine | unfortunately not candy vending machines, smart-cards, for use on the bedside terminals | 09:42 |
slaine | niqt: no, not yet | 09:42 |
slaine | though recent DRM moves for Via devices are making that more interesting. | 09:43 |
niqt | I wanted to do yesterday, but I have not had time | 09:43 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: I'll have a look of qt at some point | 10:01 |
Stskeeps | ok | 10:01 |
Bostik | the one remaining problem with getting qt5 into a testable state would be to fix the annoying++ soft/hard float buggerup in jsbackend | 10:06 |
Bostik | probably something easy but just needs time | 10:07 |
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Stskeeps | wb phaeron | 10:22 |
phaeron | thanks | 10:22 |
phaeron | my connection is not very stable | 10:22 |
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Stskeeps | i'm just having a serious case of the mondays :P did you see my screenshot from testrunner under SDK? | 10:23 |
phaeron | no | 10:23 |
Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/qa-testrunner.png | 10:23 |
Stskeeps | with ability to remotely run the tests on a device | 10:23 |
phaeron | cool! | 10:24 |
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phaeron | I am having trouble remembering my own job :D | 10:26 |
Stskeeps | phaeron: "everything that needs to be done i can't get other people to do"? | 10:27 |
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Stskeeps | that's my own description | 10:28 |
Stskeeps | :P | 10:28 |
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phaeron | I was going to start on the obs patches before I got sick over the weekend | 10:28 |
phaeron | shuffled my lvm and setup opensuse 12.1 jeos | 10:29 |
phaeron | rebased my branches in merproject github | 10:29 |
phaeron | but didn't push yet | 10:32 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:32 |
Stskeeps | that sounds like a good direction | 10:32 |
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sledges | lbt, further weirdness: inside SDK the command "sudo mount --bind /var/tmp/mic/cache /var/tmp/mic/img.../yum" says: sudo mount --bind /var/tmp/mic/cache /var/tmp/mic/imgcreate-ZH5yDM/install_root/var/cache/yum (that's why mic fails) | 10:52 |
sledges | pardon | 10:54 |
sledges | s/says .*/mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /var/tmp/mic/cache,.../ | 10:55 |
* lbt looks | 10:55 | |
sledges | on host it works (after an obvious mkdir -p) | 10:55 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: ether pad for the qt5 with people responsible of packaging would be nice | 10:56 |
sledges | looks like --bind doesn't work under MerSDK, as mounting /dev/pts et al. works | 10:57 |
sledges | or I hope it's just my machine.. | 10:57 |
lbt | hmm | 10:58 |
lbt | it's working here | 10:58 |
sledges | my /home under which sdks/mer resides is /dev/sda5 on /home type ext3 (rw,user_xattr) | 10:58 |
lbt | which is a pita | 10:58 |
* sledges uses Ubuntu 10.04 | 10:58 | |
lbt | debian testing here | 10:58 |
sledges | I'l try to restart the system :)} | 10:58 |
lbt | nah | 10:58 |
lbt | I know what it is | 10:59 |
sledges | because I think someone already tested | 10:59 |
lbt | it's mount --bind --private | 10:59 |
sledges | ah, do you have 10.04 VM? | 10:59 |
lbt | no - but I've seen this before | 10:59 |
sledges | right | 10:59 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: err... maybe gerrit would be nice for all of this. There is so much to comment and stuff. | 11:00 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: alright | 11:00 |
Sage_ | ~10k lines of .spec files I guess :P | 11:00 |
lbt | sledges: can you umount the SDK, pastie the results of cat /proc/mounts; then mount it, then pastie the results again | 11:02 |
sledges | ok (I think I'm looking somewhere close: http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Deployment_Guide/sect-Using_the_mount_Command-Mounting-Bind.html ) ? | 11:03 |
lbt | yes, if you check the script it's reasonably well commented | 11:04 |
lbt | iirc I left the url in to the linux docs too | 11:04 |
lbt | I mainly use --private and --unbindable | 11:04 |
lbt | we do --rbind on / -> parentroot/ and that's why we make the /sdks/ dir --unbindable | 11:05 |
sledges | i see | 11:05 |
lbt | so they don't replicate | 11:05 |
lbt | then we need to do what you describe for mic | 11:05 |
lbt | but we just made sdks/ --unbindable ... so it fails | 11:06 |
lbt | so we make ../sdks/sdk --private | 11:06 |
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lbt | this way the .../sdks/ directory acts like an air-gap for --rbind | 11:06 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: yeah, could be good to start with qtbase i guess | 11:08 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: yes. btw is qtbase good name? Should it be qt5-base instead? | 11:09 |
Sage_ | Just wondering when qt6 comes :) | 11:09 |
Stskeeps | point | 11:10 |
Stskeeps | we should ask the qt on pi people what they call theirs, too | 11:10 |
Sage_ | yes, It could be qt5-base that has Provides: qt-base or something | 11:11 |
Sage_ | also that would make it more clear from qt4 | 11:12 |
Stskeeps | kulve: btw, is your WSEGL set to DRI? | 11:15 |
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lbt | sledges: can you do a "sudo zypper ref; sudo zypper up sdk-chroot" | 11:16 |
Stskeeps | lbt: how's the release coming along? | 11:19 |
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lbt | slowly for some reason | 11:19 |
Stskeeps | ok | 11:19 |
sledges | lbt, doing it, it asked me to move to an immediate following after a /sdks/ dir | 11:20 |
sledges | I can't move parentroot is mounted, and busy, so I think i'll reboot :)) | 11:20 |
lbt | OK | 11:20 |
lbt | Stskeeps: it appears stalled :( | 11:20 |
kulve | Stskeeps: yes it was | 11:21 |
Stskeeps | ok | 11:21 |
Stskeeps | lbt: stall in rsync? that's bizarre | 11:22 |
lbt | yep | 11:22 |
Stskeeps | ok, i think we can ctrl-c and RESYNC=1 PRERELEASE=1 NO_GRAB=1 | 11:24 |
lbt | yep | 11:25 |
lbt | just looking at it to see if I can see why | 11:25 |
Stskeeps | i straced and it was just idling in select() | 11:25 |
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lbt | it's going | 11:28 |
Stskeeps | finished already? | 11:31 |
lbt | yes | 11:31 |
lbt | just looking at the shell-log to see if it looks sane - it does | 11:32 |
lbt | yep - that looks better | 11:33 |
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sledges | problem persists lbt, I'm afraid.. | 11:36 |
lbt | can you redo the proc/mount pasties | 11:37 |
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Stskeeps | REMINDER: bug triage in 22 minutes in #mer-meeting | 11:38 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: is the changelog you pastied earlier since last snapshot | 11:41 |
Stskeeps | since last full release | 11:41 |
* lbt thinks a ./latest-interim would be useful too | 11:44 | |
lbt | or is it ./latest-next | 11:45 |
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* lbt races to edit mer-next before bug triage... slow rsync .... | 12:01 | |
Stskeeps | edit? | 12:02 |
Stskeeps | :P | 12:02 |
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lbt | mapping project="Core-next:i586" path="obs-projects/Core-next/i586" binaries="obs-repos/Core:i586:$SNAP" reponame="Core_i586" / | 12:02 |
Stskeeps | mmk | 12:02 |
Stskeeps | why racing? | 12:02 |
lbt | because the meeting just started and the rsync lost :) | 12:02 |
lbt | Core:i586:0.20120315.0.1/Core_i586/i586/python-libs.rpm | 12:03 |
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Stskeeps | phaeron: out of curiousity, what IRC client do you use? | 13:01 |
phaeron | pidgin | 13:01 |
Stskeeps | it has a weird tendancy to make weird part messages from irc channels | 13:02 |
Stskeeps | in #mer-meeting you exited with :WHO #meego-it | 13:02 |
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phaeron | Stskeeps: weird.. | 13:03 |
phaeron | trying | 13:03 |
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Stskeeps | this one said JOIN #mer | 13:04 |
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Stskeeps | this one was blank | 13:04 |
phaeron | I disabled one of the plugins | 13:05 |
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lbt | off to get Denise from train ... bbiab ... Stskeeps I want to check some SB2 things too this pm | 13:07 |
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Stskeeps | ok | 13:07 |
Stskeeps | i'm really not much worth today for some reason (serious case of the mondays) but let's give it a try | 13:08 |
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Stskeeps | light as in torch? | 13:40 |
Stskeeps | it's fedora 16 it looks like | 13:40 |
lbt | and 15 | 13:40 |
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lbt | I thought the prjconf was fixed | 13:41 |
lbt | phaeron: did you add the libmount thing to the preinstall on Fedora:* ? | 13:42 |
phaeron | lbt: no | 13:42 |
lbt | do you recall what it should be? | 13:42 |
* phaeron tries to remember why that is needed | 13:42 | |
lbt | "mount: error while loading shared libraries: libmount.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" | 13:43 |
phaeron | lbt: doesn't mount-static fix that ? | 13:43 |
lbt | it should - I have never looked at fedora | 13:43 |
Stskeeps | mount-static only works in the initscript, not in build script, AFAI | 13:44 |
Stskeeps | K | 13:44 |
lbt | how come it doesn't pull it in? | 13:44 |
phaeron | that error happens before or after chroot ? | 13:44 |
Stskeeps | ie, build script will use mount -t proc /proc for instance | 13:44 |
lbt | phaeron: inside xen | 13:45 |
phaeron | lbt: ok that's weird then. because the prjconf is copied from suse | 13:46 |
lbt | yeah, I guessed it would be | 13:46 |
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lbt | hmm cached prjconf I guess | 13:47 |
phaeron | lbt: does the issue happen on the dod fedora ones (if anyone is using that) | 13:48 |
lbt | he is using that | 13:49 |
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lbt | yay | 14:00 |
phaeron | obs finally up in the 12.1 vm | 14:01 |
phaeron | now I can start the real work | 14:02 |
Stskeeps | \o/ | 14:02 |
ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: I compile gst-plugins-good, got nothing provides pkgconfig(gdk-pixbuf-2.0), nothing provides PyXML | 14:05 |
mdfe_ | Stskeeps: hi, I have some trouble with osc local builds on arm | 14:06 |
mdfe_ | Stskeeps: I tried also the mer platform sdk | 14:06 |
mdfe_ | Stskeeps: Do you have ever seen issues like this http://pastebin.com/4ErkuJ9f ? | 14:06 |
Stskeeps | yes, looks like we don't have correct 'build | 14:11 |
Stskeeps | ' or 'osc' in SDK | 14:11 |
lbt | hmm | 14:11 |
Stskeeps | lbt: can you verify it corresponds to contents of Merproject build and osc? | 14:11 |
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Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: mm, see what happens if you remove those two dependencies, but there is a working package at https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=gst-plugins-good&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared | 14:12 |
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Stskeeps | maybe try that one instead | 14:13 |
mdfe_ | Stskeeps: This log is much smaller http://pastebin.com/wLLt7ZXY | 14:13 |
lbt | mdfe_: SDK stuff is usually me | 14:14 |
ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: the verison is old | 14:14 |
mdfe_ | Stskeeps: I get the same result on my native host installation | 14:14 |
mdfe_ | lbt: ok | 14:14 |
Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: try that version first, then try to upgrade it | 14:14 |
ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: Ok | 14:14 |
Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: by editing spec file and adding new tarball | 14:14 |
mdfe_ | lbt: strangely it works on OBS | 14:15 |
ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: I found a gdk-pixbuf src.rpm | 14:15 |
ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: Maybe I'll try that at the same time | 14:16 |
lbt | mdfe_: I need to verify the Mer:Tools version of osc and build | 14:17 |
lbt | first ... prerelease storm | 14:18 |
* phaeron is sad to see same startup / shutdown problem persist in obs in 12.1 systemd | 14:18 | |
* lbt presses the "warm up Oregon" button | 14:18 | |
mdfe_ | lbt: ok | 14:23 |
mdfe_ | lbt: the difference between osc local and OBS build, sb2-tools-armv7l-inject will be installed at preinstallion time | 14:24 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: workers started to build yet? | 14:57 |
lbt | yes | 14:58 |
Stskeeps | ok | 14:59 |
lbt | sb2 ls => ls: cannot open directory .: No such file or directory | 15:02 |
lbt | uh huh | 15:02 |
Stskeeps | that in SDK? | 15:02 |
lbt | yes | 15:02 |
Stskeeps | well, show me your setup.. | 15:03 |
lbt | http://pastie.org/3578103 | 15:04 |
lbt | -t / | 15:05 |
Stskeeps | obs-rpm-build relies on you having your stuff in /home/ | 15:05 |
lbt | <facepalm> | 15:05 |
lbt | delivery ...bbiam | 15:06 |
Stskeeps | we're going to make a better mode, but keep in mind this particular mode is to mimic a obs build scenario | 15:06 |
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lbt | yep, we need to document the purpose of the modes | 15:07 |
Stskeeps | "magic method 1, magic method 2"\ | 15:16 |
lbt | fwiw I never use /home/ | 15:18 |
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Stskeeps | i know | 15:19 |
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Stskeeps | hello DaJarm | 16:45 |
phaeron | lbt: ping | 16:47 |
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sledges | lbt, I commented out the mount --make-* * lines and mic goes ahead (obviously), sufficient enough for now until a proof of concept | 17:03 |
sledges | *for a proof of concept | 17:03 |
sledges | you'd like me to file a bug? | 17:03 |
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vgrade | jukkaeklund, hi | 17:26 |
vgrade | things have moved around a bit since that image was built. Check the latest kickstart for the G9 at http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/archos-generation-9/2012-03-12-16-21-basyskom-plasma-active-testing-mer-armv7l-archos-gen9-mmcblk1p-raw.ks | 17:27 |
vgrade | replace the PA repos with the ones from this ks, see how you go | 17:27 |
lbt | sledges: what kernel are you running ? | 17:27 |
sledges | 2.6.32-37-generic-pae | 17:28 |
lbt | OK - I'll see if I can replicate the issue | 17:29 |
lbt | removing the --private/unbindable will work but will result in massive cross-mounting with multiple SDKs | 17:29 |
sledges | yup, | 17:30 |
* sledges will try not to use multiple SDKs | 17:30 | |
sledges | why would one? | 17:30 |
lbt | with SB2 we may have less need | 17:31 |
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lbt | originally I expected that the SDK would have -devel packages installed into it | 17:32 |
lbt | now they'll go into sb2 targets | 17:32 |
sledges | mhm | 17:34 |
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jukkaeklund | vgrade, ok thanks will try.. | 17:43 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: "as work continues on:" construction is fairly native english isn't it :) | 17:49 |
* Stskeeps could have misunderstood that as being part of the prerelease | 17:50 | |
Stskeeps | (and yes, i should have caught it in review) | 17:50 |
* phaeron tries to build obs from branch | 17:52 | |
sledges | thanks lbt for looking into this (/me is about to try base Mer with qmlviewer on imx53 hehey! /me needs some 2D benchmarking xorg software..) | 17:53 |
lbt | I guess if it comes over badly then the sentence needs simplifying | 17:53 |
lbt | sledges: np - it really should work fine | 17:53 |
sledges | yup, mic just finished creating the image | 17:54 |
vgrade | jukkaeklund, let me know how you get on, I'm working on a new spark ks right now so we should hit similar issues | 17:54 |
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Stskeeps | sledges: we have started preparing for automatic/semiautomatic/manual testing, http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/qa-testrunner.png | 17:54 |
Paimen | sledges: what kind of benchmarking you are talking about? | 17:54 |
Stskeeps | sledges: there's one of them that has x11 and xrender tests | 17:55 |
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Stskeeps | i even managed to kill my exopc gpu with the opengl test :) | 17:55 |
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sledges | Paimen, anything calculating fps (i.e. acceleration) I got set of tests (fbtest, vputest) from Freescale coming with ltib, so for sanity I already tried those | 17:56 |
Paimen | how accurate results you need? | 17:56 |
sledges | Stskeeps: looks nice | 17:57 |
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Paimen | and do you want to do with pure X11 or with qt/qml | 17:57 |
Stskeeps | sledges: yeah, the fruits of meego QA | 17:57 |
sledges | Paimen, so I could see how much imx_dri.so is faster than fbdev and then overall improvement when gles 2D accel kicks in | 17:57 |
sledges | the very very ripe fruits.. | 17:58 |
lbt | zypper ref : Target initialization failed: Failed to cache rpm database (1). | 17:58 |
Stskeeps | lbt: yup | 17:58 |
Stskeeps | lbt: are you doing -m obs-rpm-install -R ? | 17:58 |
lbt | yes | 17:59 |
Stskeeps | add zypper to the mode rules in /usr/share/scratchbox2 | 17:59 |
Stskeeps | it's fairly easy, find the usr_bin part | 17:59 |
Paimen | sledges: well because of steelrat were fully qml I have done benchmarking with TDriver, but that needs applications to run | 18:00 |
lbt | OK - so I did that last time but I thought it was fixed? it worked for jukkaeklund didn't it? | 18:00 |
Stskeeps | lbt: timoph did one | 18:01 |
Stskeeps | lbt: but he didn't use the obs-rpm* modes | 18:01 |
jukkaeklund | lbt, sorry what worked? | 18:01 |
sledges | yup, Paimen I will keep that in mind once some qml stuff is accelerated and visible running, thanks! | 18:01 |
lbt | jukkaeklund: sorry, timoph, not you | 18:01 |
jukkaeklund | ok :) | 18:01 |
Stskeeps | lbt: he used mostly emulation and just accelerated gcc | 18:02 |
Stskeeps | works, but not very fast | 18:02 |
lbt | ah, OK | 18:02 |
lbt | so working on obs-rpm-* is the right way ? | 18:03 |
Stskeeps | chances are we're going to shape those into more sdk friendly modes, yes | 18:04 |
lbt | any reason to have two? | 18:05 |
Stskeeps | install vs build? | 18:05 |
lbt | yes - why | 18:05 |
lbt | as in why not have a general purpose mode that supports both | 18:05 |
* Stskeeps tries to remember sb2 author's reasoning | 18:06 | |
* sledges gtg thanks for today fellows! | 18:06 | |
lbt | sledges: o/ | 18:06 |
Stskeeps | the long story short was along the lines that rpm will tamper with the build root and we ideally want to remove as many tricks from the install process | 18:06 |
Stskeeps | as to speed it up | 18:06 |
Stskeeps | build process can be faster as it's meant to be for, well, building | 18:06 |
Stskeeps | faster=more complex | 18:07 |
lbt | ok - so the mapping complexity has a measurable overhead which is needed for install but not build | 18:07 |
Stskeeps | that's part of the reason | 18:07 |
jukkaeklund | vgrade, iodbc-admin at least is missing still | 18:07 |
Stskeeps | the other reason is that rpm will go batshit insane if it tried to install in the build mode, because in build mode we actually claim some files exist vs install | 18:08 |
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Stskeeps | when replacing the execution with faster binaries | 18:09 |
lbt | yeah - it's kinda odd doing a cd to a non-existent dir | 18:09 |
lbt | and it works | 18:09 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:09 |
Stskeeps | cross compilation is magic | 18:10 |
* lbt notes a ~/.sb2/ or /etc/sb2/ with some per-mode directives would be useful | 18:11 | |
lbt | eg I need to add /everything cf /home | 18:11 |
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Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:12 |
Stskeeps | i have same sentiments, fwiw | 18:12 |
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vgrade | jukkaeklund, see the g9 kickstart, you will see # iodbc-admin | 18:19 |
vgrade | jukkaeklund, comment out in your n950 kickstart | 18:20 |
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phaeron | lbt: ping | 18:26 |
jukkaeklund | vgrade, thanks.. packages might need some work also? | 18:26 |
lbt | phaeron: pong - on phone | 18:28 |
phaeron | ok tyt | 18:28 |
vgrade | jukkaeklund, the list packages are a bit of a mess. We need some proper package groups | 18:30 |
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lbt | phaeron: pong - off phone now :) | 18:35 |
lbt | Teleca ... :) | 18:35 |
phaeron | having some weird issues with my obs webui installation | 18:36 |
phaeron | I rebuilt latest master + branch and redeploying now | 18:36 |
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lbt | OK | 18:38 |
* lbt has error: db4 error(-30971) from dbenv->open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database environment version mismatch | 18:38 | |
Stskeeps | rebuilddb | 18:39 |
lbt | hmm | 18:39 |
lbt | I did that | 18:39 |
lbt | yet repeating it worked | 18:40 |
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lbt | FYI : http://pastie.org/3579483 | 18:41 |
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lbt | maybe lines 1/2 didn't actually work | 18:42 |
phaeron | lbt: can login as Admin to api , but webui won't login | 18:43 |
phaeron | any ideas ? | 18:43 |
lbt | local deployment? | 18:43 |
phaeron | yes | 18:43 |
Stskeeps | lbt: was this before or after you added zypper to sb2 rules? | 18:43 |
lbt | yes :) | 18:44 |
lbt | line 15 | 18:44 |
Stskeeps | before.. or after.. | 18:44 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:44 |
lbt | both | 18:44 |
lbt | 1-13 before ... 15 fix 17-29 after | 18:44 |
* lbt passes espresso to Stskeeps | 18:45 | |
Stskeeps | try in reverse order | 18:45 |
Stskeeps | nm | 18:45 |
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Stskeeps | <- monday | 18:46 |
Stskeeps | i'll be more productive tomorrow :) | 18:46 |
lbt | hehe | 18:46 |
lbt | I was just surprised that I needed the 2nd purge of the __db* files | 18:46 |
Stskeeps | yes, me too | 18:46 |
Stskeeps | with zypper in sb2 rules, you should purge once, then rpm/zypper will work | 18:47 |
lbt | this will be part of target preparation won't it | 18:47 |
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Stskeeps | i hope so | 18:47 |
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jukkaeklund | vgrade, yeah well I had some errors of my own there too.. | 18:49 |
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Sage_ | lbt: any news on that my obs project and why it goes to unresolved and nothing works? | 19:42 |
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Stskeeps | Sage_: i think there's a regressing in udev packaging | 19:49 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: http://review.merproject.org/#patch,sidebyside,452,1,udev.spec , line 99-104 | 19:50 |
Stskeeps | caused ModemManager in kde to go unresolvable | 19:50 |
Stskeeps | moo trip0 | 19:50 |
trip0 | moo | 19:50 |
trip0 | :) | 19:50 |
trip0 | i heard there was this spark tablet thingy | 19:50 |
Stskeeps | yeah, let's see when it gets into people's hands | 19:51 |
trip0 | next month? | 19:51 |
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Stskeeps | not sure, actually not involved with it except on mer platform level :) | 19:56 |
Stskeeps | and preordered one | 19:56 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: hmmp... do they use BuildRequires: pkgconfig(gudev-1.0) ? | 19:56 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: they used libgudev-devel | 19:57 |
Sage_ | they shouldn't use that it is 3 year old workaround that people should get rid of already. | 19:57 |
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Stskeeps | iok | 19:57 |
GeorgeH | Heya | 19:58 |
Sage_ | we can put it back though but I would prefer removing it | 19:58 |
Stskeeps | evening GeorgeH :) | 19:58 |
Stskeeps | mdfe_: ModemManager should use pkgconfig(gudev-1.0) instead of libgudev-devel | 19:58 |
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Stskeeps | :P | 19:59 |
Sage_ | :D | 19:59 |
Sage_ | too much to handle at this time of day I guess :) | 19:59 |
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Sage_ | I know that at times my packaging is a bit rude for some, but we should move forward and not keep every backward compatibility thing there for ages. | 20:00 |
Stskeeps | yeah, but you're right | 20:01 |
Stskeeps | if anything it's a nice way to cause ripples in improving people's packaging | 20:01 |
Sage_ | :nod: | 20:03 |
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Stskeeps | hello jaszczomp | 20:05 |
jaszczomp | hi everyone. simple question - how to exit nemo settings on n900? | 20:05 |
jaszczomp | i tried everything and didn't managed to do it -.- | 20:06 |
Stskeeps | make a sliding gesture at the bottom to top or from side | 20:06 |
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Stskeeps | try watching http://t.co/YvKtjpBS | 20:06 |
jaszczomp | #*&%*@ it won't came to my mind | 20:09 |
jaszczomp | thanks :) | 20:09 |
* Sage_ pushed freetype update to review | 20:09 | |
Sage_ | hmmp | 20:10 |
jaszczomp | should I know any other usable gestures/commands? | 20:10 |
Stskeeps | jaszczomp: nop, just the one | 20:10 |
jaszczomp | ths. and another question - is there any way to enable vibration on screen touches? | 20:11 |
Stskeeps | not at the moment | 20:12 |
jaszczomp | ok, everything's clear, thanks again <beer> :) | 20:12 |
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lbt | Sage_: I think your problem is basically nss/nspr | 20:35 |
lbt | they need each other to build | 20:35 |
lbt | I've seen you've played with use-for-build | 20:37 |
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Stskeeps | slaine: awkward question, what's the lowest x86 denominator equipment you guys have? | 20:40 |
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Stskeeps | we got wondering on #qt-labs if pentium iii would be a nice baseline, or sse2 | 20:40 |
Sage_ | lbt: yes, well. The thing is that I fixed that problem in the repos already but I have no way to reset and remove everything | 20:42 |
Sage_ | lbt: wipebinaries didn't help, so is only thing I can do delete the whole project and readd packages? | 20:42 |
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lbt | hmm | 20:42 |
Sage_ | lbt: also, feel free to play with that repo if you want to test as long as you don't remove packages :) | 20:43 |
Sage_ | nothing critical in there just upcoming submits for Mer | 20:43 |
* lbt hacking at .spec for nss | 20:43 | |
Stskeeps | i'm on occasion thinking to ditch the very tied glibc-nss | 20:43 |
lbt | removing the > nspr constraint | 20:44 |
Sage_ | lbt: There is one repository that works btw. | 20:45 |
Sage_ | lbt: it has same packages but just enabled to build after the fixing | 20:45 |
lbt | Sage_: yes, once it's built then nspr 4.9 will exist | 20:45 |
lbt | then you could restore the constraint and all will be well | 20:46 |
lbt | but it won't build on submission I bet | 20:46 |
Sage_ | pah, let me demonstrate :) | 20:46 |
Sage_ | just need to kill gmp first | 20:46 |
lbt | I'm looking at Mer_Core-next_armv6l | 20:46 |
Sage_ | lbt: sec | 20:47 |
lbt | OK.. it looks to me like it's not possible to solve as it stands since the .spec files are circular | 20:48 |
Sage_ | lbt: I added new repository demo_for_lbt_Mer_Core-next_armv6l that is same as Mer_Core-next_armv6l | 20:48 |
Sage_ | now lets see how that builds from scratch | 20:48 |
lbt | OK - be aware that nss is hackedf | 20:49 |
Sage_ | lbt: ? | 20:49 |
Stskeeps | this is why i like this place.. it's quite late in the evening in our timezones and we're demonstrating the cyclic dependency between nspr and nss.. | 20:49 |
Stskeeps | :P | 20:49 |
lbt | #BuildRequires: nspr-devel >= %{nspr_version} | 20:49 |
lbt | BuildRequires: nspr-devel | 20:50 |
lbt | :) Stskeeps | 20:50 |
Sage_ | pah, I'll remove that hack :) | 20:50 |
lbt | yes, that's why I commented it out | 20:50 |
lbt | but feel free to revert so we can watch it build | 20:50 |
Sage_ | done | 20:51 |
lbt | OK | 20:51 |
lbt | what builds libfreebl3.so | 20:51 |
Sage_ | so now what happens is everything goes well and no unresolvable on that new repository | 20:51 |
Sage_ | as there isn't any in the repository when builds go on | 20:52 |
lbt | you had useforbuild disable on nss ? | 20:52 |
Sage_ | there are however 6 targets there that I don't manage to reset what ever I do. So they remember the old unresolved state | 20:52 |
Sage_ | pah, enabled that as well :) | 20:53 |
* Sage_ can't recall all the hacks :P | 20:53 | |
lbt | *nod* | 20:53 |
lbt | can you erase the repo and redo it? | 20:53 |
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lbt | just to be picky | 20:54 |
Sage_ | lbt: tried that already and didn't reset the situation | 20:54 |
Sage_ | renaming helped though in some cases | 20:54 |
lbt | no, I meant the demo one | 20:54 |
Sage_ | yes, creating new repository helps with new name | 20:55 |
lbt | ok - so now nss builds first | 20:55 |
lbt | and we broke the previously working i586 | 20:56 |
Sage_ | well actually it is already in situation I would like to have | 20:56 |
lbt | which makes sense | 20:56 |
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Sage_ | the demo repo compiles, how can I get any of the other repos to compile now at will without doing package modifications? | 20:56 |
lbt | now how the hell is nss building if it BR on nspr > 4.9 ? | 20:56 |
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lbt | which I assume is < 4.9 in core? | 20:57 |
* Sage_ creates new demo project :P | 20:57 | |
Sage_ | err repo | 20:57 |
Sage_ | ok, DEMO2 | 20:58 |
Sage_ | it is building with the current package sets | 20:58 |
lbt | don't see demo2? | 20:58 |
Sage_ | refresh | 20:58 |
lbt | "Demo_for_lbt_Mer_Core-next_armv6l" | 20:58 |
Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl | 20:58 |
Sage_ | Actually the problem isn't the unresolved state in the end, but the fact that I can't really clean the build state for entire repository. | 20:59 |
Sage_ | to get it build as it does when doing new repo | 20:59 |
lbt | ! | 20:59 |
lbt | monitor isn't showing that repo | 21:00 |
lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl | 21:00 |
Sage_ | I can see "DEMO_2_Mer_Cor..." fine :) | 21:00 |
lbt | and now it appears | 21:01 |
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lbt | OK - do a wipebinaries on something and tell me which before you do it | 21:03 |
lbt | I'll look at the be build area | 21:04 |
Sage_ | home:sage:branches:Mer:fake:Core:armv7hl A_Mer_Core_armv7l | 21:04 |
lbt | ok | 21:04 |
Sage_ | err | 21:04 |
Sage_ | it can't specify repository | 21:05 |
Sage_ | osc wipebinaries OPTS PROJECT [PACKAGE] | 21:05 |
Sage_ | so I have to do it for all | 21:05 |
lbt | in for a penny.... | 21:05 |
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Sage_ | ready? :) | 21:05 |
lbt | yes | 21:06 |
Sage_ | doing | 21:06 |
Sage_ | done | 21:06 |
bibr__ | Stskeeps: rumor has it you know about WSEGL | 21:06 |
Stskeeps | bibr__: oh dear | 21:06 |
* bibr__ points to _av500_ and hides | 21:07 | |
Stskeeps | i knew that was going to come back and haunt me some day | 21:07 |
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bibr__ | Stskeeps: background? | 21:07 |
Stskeeps | bibr__: i did a wayland proof of concept utilizing wsegl alone | 21:07 |
lbt | Your paste cannot be larger than 64 kb. Sorry. | 21:07 |
bibr__ | Stskeeps: did you fetch wsegl from img or from somewhere... else... | 21:08 |
bibr__ | wsegl.h | 21:08 |
Stskeeps | bibr__: wsegl.h surprisingily comes along with TI's SGX releases these days | 21:08 |
Stskeeps | so does pvr2d | 21:08 |
bibr__ | interesting ok. | 21:08 |
lbt | Sage_: this is after wipebinaries : http://pastie.org/3580567 | 21:08 |
Stskeeps | bibr__: my work was partially based on Qt's QWSPVR (or something) work | 21:08 |
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Stskeeps | bibr__: how come you're asking, if i may inquire? | 21:09 |
* bibr__ is long time Qt hax0r | 21:09 | |
bibr__ | unrelated though ;-) | 21:09 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:09 |
Stskeeps | i think rob clark is working on wayland for SGX at the moment | 21:09 |
bibr__ | Stskeeps: it's that the latest pvr-omap4 package from ti that supports omap4460 only has a WSEGL driver for x11. | 21:09 |
Stskeeps | yeah, i noticed that too | 21:10 |
Stskeeps | which kinda, erm, sucks | 21:10 |
bibr__ | which is crap | 21:10 |
bibr__ | heh | 21:10 |
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Stskeeps | you can probably hack one up using the Qt code if you want, there's all the stuff about flipchains etc in there | 21:10 |
bibr__ | yup | 21:11 |
Stskeeps | or use my proof of concept as inspiration, http://gitorious.org/wayland-sgx/wayland-wsegl/trees/master | 21:11 |
Stskeeps | there's fullscreen usage in there | 21:11 |
bibr__ | ok thx | 21:12 |
Stskeeps | though i guess for omap4 at least it's moving more towards kms and gem/dri etc | 21:13 |
Stskeeps | you could probably have a good chat with robclark too | 21:14 |
_av500_ | bibr__: ah you found him :) | 21:15 |
bibr__ | _av500_: yeah we're done already ;-) hehe | 21:15 |
lbt | Sage_: so DEMO_2 failed to build | 21:15 |
_av500_ | Stskeeps: but am I right that with wsegl.h and some code I can make sgx render into whatever I want? | 21:15 |
bibr__ | _av500_: looks like it :-) | 21:16 |
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Stskeeps | _av500_: you can do some pretty bizarre things with it, yeah | 21:16 |
_av500_ | so I was not too crazy :) | 21:16 |
Stskeeps | i would just render into gpu memory obviously though | 21:16 |
Stskeeps | and perhaps pass those handles around | 21:16 |
_av500_ | Stskeeps: I want it rendered int temp_buf[] :) | 21:16 |
_av500_ | or pastebin :) | 21:17 |
Stskeeps | _av500_: my first prototype was with shm buffers | 21:17 |
Stskeeps | so it's possible | 21:17 |
_av500_ | ok | 21:17 |
bibr__ | Stskeeps: hm, you can also use eglCreatePixmapSurface and avoid the window altogether | 21:18 |
bibr__ | another sgx hack | 21:18 |
Stskeeps | bibr__: probably yeah | 21:18 |
Stskeeps | i'm not paying for you guys's therapy after having to deal with this stuff though | 21:19 |
Stskeeps | :P | 21:19 |
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_av500_ | Stskeeps: sorry for not asking if it was fully compliant to ask about it here :) | 21:20 |
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Anssi138 | don't take the red pill :) | 21:20 |
Stskeeps | _av500_: ah, it's fine ;) | 21:21 |
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bibr__ | thanks guys, /me heads off to play with wsegl.h | 21:21 |
Stskeeps | please figure out whoever thought it was a good idea to remove the other WSEGLs fwiw | 21:21 |
_av500_ | bibr__: but you need the correct wsegl.h | 21:22 |
_av500_ | that one was probably omap3 sgx | 21:22 |
bibr__ | true | 21:22 |
_av500_ | or are they all the same? | 21:22 |
* bibr__ will try with an email to TI and see how far I get | 21:22 | |
Stskeeps | i think qt has a wsegl.h v2 or something | 21:22 |
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Stskeeps | or TI provided one | 21:22 |
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Sage_ | lbt: wipebinaries doesn't remove them from webui and cause rebuild, only from repository and cause publish? | 21:24 |
* Sage_ goes to bed | 21:24 | |
lbt | wait a sec | 21:25 |
lbt | check monitor | 21:25 |
lbt | so yeah, I had to hack the backend at commandline level but... | 21:25 |
Stskeeps | famous last words | 21:26 |
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lbt | if you will insist on hoisting yourself up by your shoelaces | 21:26 |
lbt | you'll trip :) | 21:26 |
Sage_ | lbt: what did you do? :) | 21:26 |
lbt | it involved rm -rf | 21:27 |
lbt | carefull applied C4 is always a good idea | 21:27 |
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Sage_ | :P | 21:27 |
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Sage_ | good night all | 21:28 |
lbt | Sage_: night - I'll do the rest | 21:28 |
lbt | I'll let you rename them | 21:28 |
raignarok | lbt: how do you know? :P | 21:28 |
lbt | check the logs :) | 21:28 |
lbt | OK ... all rebuilding | 21:33 |
raignarok | lbt: ookay, spent a few minutes thinking about what the last few lines could have to do with the fbi, with "C4" only c-states came into my mind for a while. xD | 21:35 |
lbt | not the way I use it... | 21:35 |
raignarok | indeed that made no sense. | 21:36 |
lbt | dammit .... workers still die | 21:37 |
_av500_ | foxconn workers? | 21:38 |
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lbt | _av500_: evil... | 21:39 |
_av500_ | ai am | 21:39 |
_av500_ | -a | 21:39 |
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raignarok | got tuxonice to work \o/ so no more rejoins from me for a while. ;) | 21:39 |
trip0 | tuxonice on mer!! O_O | 21:42 |
lbt | mer doesn't suspend - it invokes liquid nitrogen mode | 21:42 |
trip0 | lol | 21:44 |
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Venemo_N950 | hi | 23:20 |
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