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| Tofe | Hello ! | 07:18 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 07:18 |
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| Tofe | I would have some questions about Mer's boot process, in order to debug a problem | 07:19 |
| Tofe | +like | 07:19 |
| Tofe | +to | 07:19 |
| dm8tbr | just ask... | 07:19 |
| Tofe | (ouch, it's morning...) | 07:19 |
| Stskeeps | Tofe: sure, shoot | 07:20 |
| Tofe | well, I've booted Mer/Plasma on my Iconia Tab A500, to begin with | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | i will warn you, i'm before my coffee so answers may be delayed ;) | 07:20 |
| Tofe | It's a tegra2 tablet, in case you don't know it yet | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, you said | 07:20 |
| Tofe | it's booting quite fine, until plasma active crashes | 07:21 |
| Tofe | the reason isn't clear | 07:21 |
| Tofe | and apart from the X log, I didn't find much | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | you can check .xsession-errors in /home/* (not sure what user name they use) | 07:22 |
| Tofe | they use "mer", it seems | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:23 |
| Tofe | seemed to be a good idea, I've got lots of stuff to look at :) | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | my appreciation for pet shop boys just increased, after seeing they had a C64 on stage.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN5YcrK8Li4 | 07:25 |
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| Tofe | looks like a mutex_unlock has failed in pulsecore, this may have made plasma-device crash. mmh. Are there more than one virtual tty ? Is it mostly as usual for this stuff ? | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | Tofe: the pulsecore thing is curious | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | Tofe: as your device is arm multicore | 07:35 |
| Tofe | Agreed. But I did curious things too on my side: I've put a Linux 2.6.36 kernel, and the mer rootfs seemed to be compiled with 2.6.38 | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | shouldn't matter too much | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | can you show me the mutex_unlock error_ | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 07:36 |
| Tofe | That's also what I guessed | 07:36 |
| Tofe | sure, one moment | 07:36 |
| Tofe | Assertion 'pthread_mutex_unlock(&m->mutex) == 0' failed at pulsecore/mutex-posix.c:108, function pa_mutex_unlock(). Aborting. | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | did you build your own kernel by chance? | 07:37 |
| Tofe | nope, I tried to avoid that, as I don't know yet how to cross-compile a kernel | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | it's fairly easy really, do you know how to build a kernel in general? | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | ie, with 'make', etc | 07:38 |
| Tofe | oh, yes, sure | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | i get a cross compiler targetting ARM and do make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/path/to/cross-compiler/arm-somethingsomething- zImage | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | (but not "somethingsomething-gcc) | 07:40 |
| Tofe | oh, wait, I rebooted the thing, and now it goes further | 07:40 |
| Tofe | Yes ! The Desktop is showing up :) | 07:41 |
| Tofe | maybe the crash was cause by something else, like asynchronous loading too slow (I'm on a poor Class4 SD card :p ) | 07:41 |
| Tofe | okay, well, that's great. I'll see what works/doesn't work. | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | could you file the pthread mutex thing on bugs.merproject.org ? | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | and mention it's ARM SMP | 07:42 |
| Tofe | sure. Do you think it will help, given this very particular context ? (first boot of mer, kernel 2.6.36...) | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:44 |
| Tofe | :) ok, then | 07:44 |
| timoph | crash is a crash | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | i've seen it in meego before but i needed confirmation it happens in mer before | 07:44 |
| timoph | good morning btw | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | first | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | morn timoph o/ | 07:44 |
| Tofe | arg, there's no glxinfo or glxgears. How do I know if there is already HW accel ? | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | Tofe: GLX is for X86 opengl | 07:46 |
| timoph | did lbt build the new sdk image? | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | we normally use mer-gfx-tests package | 07:46 |
| Tofe | Ok, I'll read some docs before asking more :) | 07:46 |
| * Stskeeps is planning on llvmpipe work and sb2 today | 07:47 | |
| timoph | I'm planning to check the latest sdk and start experimenting with qtcreator | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:48 |
| timoph | first need to clean the flat and wash a pile of dirty clothes :/ | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: are you around today? i would really like you to fix up udev quickly if possible | 07:49 |
| timoph | little sacrifices for a happy releationship :) | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: i've seemingily been encoded instructions a bit too well since the place doesn't look like a nuclear wasteland while being on my own for 24 hours.. :P | 07:49 |
| timoph | :) | 07:50 |
| * timoph goes on a cleaning frenzy. bbl | 07:53 | |
| Stskeeps | enjoy ;) | 07:54 |
| zuh | Stskeeps: Just a trail of breadcrumbs and bewerage between computer and the fridge? ;) | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | zuh: good point, i can optimize the vacuuming ;) | 07:54 |
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| vgrade | Tofe, pulse crash is a known issue on tegra 2, https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13567, http://www.trimslice.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=190 | 08:13 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, it is still present in Mer | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: feel like trying out a new glibc to see if it still appears? | 08:14 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, yes I can | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | ok, moment, have to publish that repo.. | 08:15 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, we discussed it at the sprint also. Do we have a recent pulseaudio in Mer | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: i think we should have it soon | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | i need to figure out how to do that, and avoid breaking the hell out of Nemo | 08:17 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, so Nemo relies on an older version? | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: telephony part does.. but nemo can't hold back progress either | 08:18 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: http://repo.ci.merproject.org/repos/home:/Admin:/eglibc/ | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | select one and zypper up to it, or make new image | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | this is eglibc 2.15 | 08:20 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, ok | 08:20 |
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| Tofe | vgrade: ok | 08:29 |
| Tofe | okay, plasma is great, but some things are really not convenient on a tablet | 08:29 |
| Tofe | mainly, many things are too small (menus, some icons in the title bar) | 08:30 |
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| vgrade | Tofe, you cab catch up with the plasma active guys in #active. The apps with menus really need rewriting to support a touch interface | 08:37 |
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| lbt | morning | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 08:56 |
| lbt | grumble: Error <creator>: Failed to find package 'qemu-usermode-static' : No package(s) available to install | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 08:58 |
| lbt | just grumbling | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | from what repo | 08:59 |
| lbt | sdk ks | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | odd | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | with latest releases? | 08:59 |
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| lbt | hmm - the ks isn't getting the Mer repo in it | 09:00 |
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| lbt | nm ... more kickstarter stuff | 09:02 |
| lbt | I had it all working by essentially ignoring mer/00base.yaml | 09:02 |
| lbt | then I stripped all the duplicate stuff and expected base.yaml to work | 09:02 |
| lbt | now I'm redoing the duplicate bits and missing some :) | 09:03 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders idly | 09:22 | |
| Stskeeps | watch a movie a day, or re-watch entire star trek TNG? | 09:22 |
| lbt | that takes more than a day! | 09:22 |
| lbt | do you watch Big Bang Theory ? | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, though it's a "watch only with bogna" series | 09:24 |
| lbt | we only discovered it a few months ago | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | it has certainly given bogna new appreciation for my random quirks | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:24 |
| lbt | just watched the entire 4? series almost back to back at ~1-2 per day | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 09:25 |
| lbt | it's so ironic that we learnt about it at a "linux car stereo community 12 year reunion party" | 09:25 |
| lbt | \o/ download finished and sdk built | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 09:28 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: did you ever get NFS working on mer? | 09:35 |
| lbt | I made a start but it's below SDK/sb2 and git | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | i'm pondering to take a swing at mer-as-my-htpc today so | 09:36 |
| lbt | did I show you the osc git/obs repo | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | not yet | 09:37 |
| lbt | well, it's in the mer-tools area, not core ... so don't panic :) | 09:37 |
| lbt | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-tools/osc.git;a=summary | 09:37 |
| lbt | take a look at the tree for mer-pkg head | 09:38 |
| lbt | and then the tree for mer-master head | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | how about instead of freaking me out with that, to walk me through a standard package update ? | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | ie, let's assume .134 comes out | 09:38 |
| lbt | that's what I'm working on | 09:38 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3544493 | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok, rather: how is it supposed to look like | 09:38 |
| lbt | normally what we'd do is replace the tarball | 09:39 |
| lbt | and then try to re-apply any patches we had | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | and update .spec, .yaml, .changes | 09:39 |
| lbt | fixing up along the way | 09:39 |
| lbt | yep | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | and send for testing | 09:39 |
| lbt | this way what we do is change _src to say "0.134" | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | (BTW: have you looked into how fedora does it? | 09:40 |
| lbt | we rebase/cherry-pick patches in git | 09:40 |
| lbt | yes - very similar to this | 09:40 |
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| lbt | the patches line in _src then says "apply any commits between 0.134 and mer-master as .yaml patches" | 09:41 |
| lbt | so this is a way to retain tarball/patch compatibility | 09:42 |
| lbt | what we can also do is skip the %prep step | 09:42 |
| lbt | by checking out mer-master | 09:42 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3544477 | 09:43 |
| lbt | is the make_src.py | 09:43 |
| lbt | I wrote it in perl first | 09:44 |
| lbt | then realised it should be in osc and/or spectacle too | 09:44 |
| lbt | so moved it to .py | 09:44 |
| lbt | just FYI really - so you know the direction I'm looking at :) | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | still confused, can you do a 'shell log' kind of thing where you update from 0.133.1 to 0.134? | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | helper tools allowed | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | how you envision it to be | 09:46 |
| lbt | yes, that's my next task | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | the overall goal should be to reduce the time it takes of doing typical mer tasks | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | just like spectacle reduced typical spec packaging time | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | => higher productivity | 09:50 |
| lbt | yep | 09:51 |
| lbt | essentially : git pull upstream; git rebase mer-master upstream-master; (fix patches+commit); git checkout mer-pkg; edit _src to change tag; update_changes; | 09:51 |
| lbt | clearly if we're carrying patches there's real work to do most of the time | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | that's a bit of a utopia world you picture there.. how does it work with tarballs? | 09:52 |
| lbt | instead of git pull upstream => pristine-tar import <new tarball> | 09:53 |
| lbt | then it's the same | 09:53 |
| lbt | _src file has a type of pristine-tar | 09:53 |
| lbt | so instead of git archive... it uses pristine-tar "recreate tarball" | 09:54 |
| lbt | OK .. sdk | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | and how would this work with gerrit? | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | (am not putting down the idea, just walking through my mental checklist) | 09:57 |
| lbt | that I'm not sure about | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | would it be possible to have a second alternative proposed, where you ship a lot of the automation to gerrit side instead? | 09:58 |
| lbt | I need to see how this appears to gerrit when I do a push | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | though that wouldn't work in vendor scenario, hmm | 09:59 |
| lbt | I think the real thing we're doing is removing the tarball from git repos | 10:00 |
| lbt | there's a lot of opacity there | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | in practice we're not really though | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | we ship it around with the git repo itself anyway | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | though deltas are smaller | 10:01 |
| lbt | by tarball I mean large binary blob | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 10:01 |
| lbt | there is no blob [1] in my proposal | 10:01 |
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| lbt | [1] technically pristine tar can/does use blobs in pathological situations | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | btw, as a sidenote, for "acl" test case, sb2 2.3.43 is now faster than old cross | 10:04 |
| lbt | nice | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | and not done optimizing yet | 10:05 |
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| jbos | hi, my mic-image-creator is looking for tools like "mic" in /usr/local/bin but those are in /usr/bin | 10:24 |
| jbos | any idea how to fix this | 10:24 |
| jbos | i'm running a kubuntu 11.04 | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | jbos: get mer platform sdk | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | and use that, it makes life much easier on random distributions | 10:25 |
| jbos | so basically doing all this in the changeroot? | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that way we're sure you have the right tools, things work, etc | 10:26 |
| jbos | ok, stupid question, i have this installed but it doesnt know about mic2 :D | 10:29 |
| jbos | be back in 30 min "lunch" | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | jbos: yes, we now use 'mic' instead | 10:29 |
| jbos | is there a wiki about it? | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Building_an_image | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: Mer images are build using mic image creator. on that page refers to a bad mic | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok, time to lay down a bit and watch a german scifi (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381940/ ) | 10:31 |
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| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, good choice | 10:38 |
| lbt | jbos: ping me if you need a hand | 10:38 |
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| dm8tbr | hmm sounds like a nice movie | 10:42 |
| dm8tbr | will need to get ahold of original and subtitles | 10:44 |
| Anssi138 | it'ok | 10:49 |
| Anssi138 | it is ok | 10:49 |
| Anssi138 | i don't know how sci-fi can be bad even | 10:50 |
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| jbos | ok, lbt i'm confused I have the sdk installed and rpm -ql mic tells me that ther is a mic in /usr/bin | 11:07 |
| jbos | but there isn't | 11:07 |
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| jbos | ok reinstalled package; now its there | 11:11 |
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| lbt | jbos: mmm | 11:14 |
| lbt | what do you mean by reinstalling ? | 11:14 |
| lbt | zypper or tar x ? | 11:14 |
| jbos | zypper rm | 11:15 |
| jbos | zypper in | 11:15 |
| jbos | within the sdk | 11:16 |
| lbt | you really shouldn't need to do that | 11:16 |
| lbt | so it makes me think something else is wrong | 11:16 |
| jbos | yep, i guessed so... | 11:16 |
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| lbt | morning phaeron | 11:16 |
| Anssi138 | i had hack for similar that thingy. http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Talk:Trying_it_out | 11:16 |
| jbos | at least it now works through the ks file and does something | 11:17 |
| lbt | Anssi138: that's not using the sdk though | 11:17 |
| Anssi138 | yeh | 11:17 |
| lbt | jbos: OK - I'd like you to try re-installing the SDK though | 11:17 |
| jbos | will do later. | 11:18 |
| lbt | don't forget to umount before removing it - OK ? | 11:18 |
| jbos | :) OK | 11:18 |
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| lbt | if mic isn't working then it's an urgent bug | 11:19 |
| phaeron | lbt: hey | 11:19 |
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| djszapi | Hi! Is there any ongoing adaptation work for AMD cores ? | 11:36 |
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| lbt | djszapi: not AMD specifically AFAIK | 11:42 |
| jukkaeklund | lbt, stskeeps, installed fresh SDK works as advertised! | 11:51 |
| jukkaeklund | also mic was there | 11:51 |
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| jukkaeklund | found a bug(?), after doing zypper up the file MerSDK disappeared | 11:56 |
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| Stskeeps | djszapi: our i486 port works on amd | 12:02 |
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| sahack | help me check what this is made of http://youtu.be/lWyka4-MYmI | 12:13 |
| sahack | sorry guys, wrong post | 12:13 |
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| cxl000 | Tofe pulseaudio in https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=pulseaudio&project=home%3Acxl000%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore-next%3Aarmv7l has a hack to prevent the mutex_unlock failure on SMP devices | 12:37 |
| Tofe | cxl000: good to know, thanks | 12:38 |
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| cxl000 | I've only tested on a trimslice with a tegra2 | 12:44 |
| djszapi | Stskeeps: ok, thanks. | 12:44 |
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| lbt | jukkaeklund: thanks for the checks - I'll look at the MerSDK file - that's put there by the .ks which is probably a bad approach | 12:50 |
| vgrade | cxl000, thanks for that patch it will help mdfe also on his pov tablet | 13:06 |
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| Stskeeps | moin mdfe | 13:08 |
| mdfe | moin :) | 13:08 |
| vgrade | moring mdfe, you just missed this from cxl000 : the pulseaudio in https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=pulseaudio&project=home%3Acxl000%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore-next%3Aarmv7l has a hack to prevent the mutex_unlock failure on SMP devices | 13:10 |
| mdfe | great timing | 13:10 |
| mdfe | http://build.meego.com/package/view_file?expand=0&file=disable_pthread_priority.patch&package=pulseaudio&project=home%3Abrendan%3Abranches%3Adevel%3Amultimedia&srcmd5=babadf358ed03083f2cb66c87537e5bc | 13:10 |
| vgrade | yes | 13:12 |
| vgrade | can you link me your latest arm plasma active ks you used in generating those images for me at the sprint? | 13:12 |
| mdfe | Stskeeps: could you point me again to your obs? I like to check if this patch is inside | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe: it's not, afaik | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe: http://webui-ci.tspre.org // gitweb.merproject.org is more accurate | 13:13 |
| mdfe | thx | 13:13 |
| mdfe | Stskeeps: I have the same issue like https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13567 with PA on dual core ARM devices | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | get it in mer bugtracker if it's not there already | 13:17 |
| mdfe | I will check and do so | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is to replace with a very new version of pulseaudio but we need to do it in a way that doesn't regress nemo | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | though that might be hard | 13:18 |
| mdfe | awesome | 13:18 |
| mdfe | + | 13:18 |
| mdfe | may I help? | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | careful what you ask for.. ;) http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/pulseaudio.git;a=tree | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | 254+ patches for telephony enablement | 13:19 |
| cxl000 | vgrade this patch comes from arfoll | 13:19 |
| mdfe | ouch | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is to scrap those patches and move them into a nemo/n900-n950 specific pulseaudio | 13:20 |
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| mdfe | + | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | though i'm uncertain if the libpulse's are ABI compatible | 13:20 |
| mdfe | do you know whats specific? | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | well, all of those patches to be honest | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | if you want, you can prepare a 'clean' pulseaudio package on a new version | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | ie, where you forget about those patches | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe: BTW, regarding your virtual machine stuff, i'm prepping the llvmpipe thing at the moment | 13:24 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: where are we on pi kernel btw? | 13:28 |
| mdfe | Stskeeps: I have loose track about llvmpipe, is it a additional package to get vm more supported? | 13:30 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, packages are at https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_armv7el=1&defaults=0&project=home%3Avgrade%3AraspPi&repo_Mer_Core_armv6l=1&succeeded=1 and are tested with qmlviewer image | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: cool | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe: yes, it enables ability to do GLES/EGL in VM | 13:31 |
| mdfe | :D | 13:31 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, mdavey was asking if we could get an image to them before launch | 13:32 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, with the delay to the baords it may give me time to create a QtDesktop to augment the qmlviewer image | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: makes sense | 13:33 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: i'd personally prefer we make a guide "install mer platform sdk, get this .ks, here's how to write the image.." | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | so it flows in together with every other guide we have | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | "how to use qt creator with it.." | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | the advantage, after all, is that we come with great tools for working with mer | 13:34 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, yes, on my ever increasing list | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: i know the feeling :P | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: if you want to shed that task, i can take it on for monday afternoon | 13:34 |
| * Stskeeps adds to calendar | 13:34 | |
| Stskeeps | mdfe: the sad side of this story is that it won't work on ARM, that would have been awesome cool :P | 13:35 |
| cxl000 | vgrade I have a refreshed QDesktop https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Acxl000%3AQtDesktop | 13:35 |
| mdfe | yepp | 13:36 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, lets sync on monday | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: k | 13:36 |
| vgrade | cxl000, cheers | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | is there any of you people who has atom+nvidia hardware, btw? | 13:36 |
| cxl000 | no atoms here | 13:37 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: hi,Do you have a minute? I am not sure whether the hisilicon drivers and kernel should be rebuilt, since Mer is built on Linaro gcc4.6.x, but current hisilicon drivers and kernel are built on arm-hisiv200-linux-gcc (Hisilicon_v200(gcc4.4-290+glibc-2.11+eabi+nptl)) 4.4.1. | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: it doesn't matter too much as the kernel and it's drivers never link to mer userspace | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | if you mean drivers as drivers inside kernel (.ko) | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: but in the future, when you build kernel and drivers yourself inside for example OBS, then you'd probably have to use mer linaro gcc4.6.x | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i very often use a different toolchain for kernels than mer toolchain | 13:40 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Yes, the drivers are ko files. Since the kernel and it's drivers never link to Mer userspace, why do you say "in the future, when you build kernel and drivers yourself inside for example OBS, then you'd probably have to use mer linaro gcc4.6.x"? | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: if you make a big production/bigger team, you will want to build kernel inside OBS too in order to be able to do product images automatically | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | and in OBS, mer linaro gcc is the only one that can be used | 13:44 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ah, I understand this point. Thank you:) | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | it also helps to help against situations where you are limited by that it's only one person who can make the kernels and he leaves the company or something like that | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: do i remember right that the hisilicon .ko files are closed source? | 13:46 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I am not quite sure. hisilicon provides it's SDK and I can rebuild many thing including kernel, but I don't quite sure whether drivers source code are included in the SDK tarball. I think I should check it:) | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | because if they are, you should stick with whatever toolchain they have, as the two toolchains (mer and hisilicon) might be incompatible | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | for kernel builds | 13:49 |
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| mdfe | Stskeeps: Does it help if start with a plain packaging of pulsaudio 1.1 on build.pub.meego.com? | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe: sure | 14:08 |
| mdfe | bug is filed, I will drop a line when I have someting ready | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | k | 14:09 |
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| vgrade | mdfe, https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=pulseaudio&project=multimedia%3Alibs | 14:14 |
| mdfe | thx | 14:15 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: plok | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | lok | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | .... | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | plonk | 14:46 |
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| * Stskeeps gives up on vboxvideo packaging for tonight | 16:11 | |
| vgrade | Stskeeps is that the one which supports 3d | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: well, that's one of the things i'd use it for yeah | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: but in this case it's simply to get llvmpipe working sanely with composition | 16:17 |
| vgrade | ah ok I was confusing that with http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA2ODM | 16:19 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: hmm did something eat up the workers on bpmc? just randomly browsed through the monitor page | 16:30 |
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| * lbt looks at Stskeeps ,,, plink | 16:46 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: did you ever do kernel module packaging? | 16:47 |
| lbt | not as a seperate package or as discretely buildable modules | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:48 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: if you see workers dying ping me | 16:48 |
| lbt | I just restarted them all | 16:49 |
| mdfe | Stskeeps: version bump on pulseaudio has done on https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Amdfe%3Apulseaudio | 16:49 |
| lbt | something is killing them - I've not spotted it yet | 16:49 |
| mdfe | Stskeeps: But there is still a lot todo on checking the dopped patches | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:49 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=pvr-omap4-kernel.spec&package=pvr-omap4-kernel&project=home%3Avgrade%3Ag9testing&rev=5e7f7a9cc4769b600978a4d55a8cf79a | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: good point | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: though sgx modules certainly extend the definition of 'kernel module' to be along the lines of 'pandora's box' ;) | 17:02 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, yea I saw the issues kulve had recently | 17:03 |
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| timoph | evening | 17:47 |
| timoph | lbt: is there a new sdk image floating around somewhere? | 17:48 |
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| Stskeeps | hello thauta_ | 17:54 |
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| Stskeeps | ahh.. good cold danish beer | 18:04 |
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| djszapi | Hi! What is the best of avoiding this warning ? specify kanagram.yaml | 18:05 |
| djszapi | Warning: duplicate item: /sbin/ldconfig for RequiresPostUn in package main | 18:05 |
| djszapi | Warning: duplicate item: /sbin/ldconfig for RequiresPost in package main | 18:05 |
| lbt | timoph: try : https://img.merproject.org/images/web/lbt/3-20120310-175830/ | 18:14 |
| lbt | not built yet | 18:14 |
| * lbt off out now :) | 18:14 | |
| timoph | thanks | 18:14 |
| * timoph starts waiting | 18:14 | |
| lbt | done | 18:15 |
| lbt | o/ | 18:15 |
| timoph | that was fast :) | 18:15 |
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| Stskeeps | o/ w00t_SE | 19:25 |
| w00t_SE | hey | 19:26 |
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| tommis | how does one install mer on n810 | 19:50 |
| timoph | tommis: see http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N8x0 | 19:52 |
| timoph | (haven't tried that myselft) | 19:53 |
| timoph | -t | 19:53 |
| tommis | thz | 19:53 |
| tommis | thx* | 19:53 |
| tommis | so how how usable is mer | 19:53 |
| tommis | is it basically the same maemo interface | 19:54 |
| timoph | well. mer is "just" a core | 19:54 |
| timoph | so no ui. but different project offer different UIs on top of it | 19:54 |
| timoph | things like nemo, plasma active, etc. | 19:55 |
| tommis | so it boots to shell | 19:55 |
| tommis | i connect to wireless and install de | 19:55 |
| tommis | seems straight forward | 19:56 |
| tommis | what package manager it uses, how many packages there is? | 19:56 |
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| * timoph is thinking about turning his n810 into a Mer powered clock | 20:02 | |
| timoph | :p | 20:02 |
| timoph | tommis: rpm / zypper | 20:03 |
| timoph | dunno about package count | 20:03 |
| timoph | some stuff packaged in various projects at build.pub.meego.com | 20:04 |
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| dm8tbr | timoph: let me know when you do. I could do that to mine too... ;) | 21:00 |
| timoph | next hack day at the latest :) | 21:00 |
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| djszapi | what is wrong about specifying /sbin/ldconfig for the post and postun as well as a requirement, so how to avoid the warning ? | 21:18 |
| Stskeeps | what warning? | 21:23 |
| Venemo_N950 | hey, just out of curiosity, what happened to libsocialweb? | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | not in mer, at least | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | you can try to ask the dawati guys | 21:31 |
| Venemo_N950 | did it have Qt bindings? | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | think so | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | libsocialweb-qt | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | there was some awkward issue about API keys and publishing this in open | 21:34 |
| Venemo_N950 | mhm | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | if i don't remember wrong | 21:34 |
| Venemo_N950 | I can't find either libsocialweb nor libsocialweb-qt in meego.gitorious.org anymore... hm, maybe I'm looking at the wrong place? | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | might have been seperated out to not suffer eventual closedown fate along with meego.gitorious | 21:35 |
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| Venemo_N950 | I'll need to look it up | 21:36 |
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| sledges | lbt, where should I put the mic-on-MerSDK bug? on mic's bug tracking system, or does mer have one for the purpose? | 21:42 |
| Stskeeps | start out with mer and we'll triage | 21:43 |
| sledges | ok, Stskeeps, I'll go and find it (have time till Monday's triage, I guess :)) | 21:43 |
| sledges | C U L8R ! | 21:44 |
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| Stskeeps | bugs.merproject.org ;) | 21:48 |
| djszapi | sowhat is the recommended way of getting ldconfig run also for RequiresPost and RequiresPostUn if not adding both entries into the yaml file ? | 21:50 |
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| Stskeeps | djszapi: could you show me the warning in question? | 21:50 |
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| djszapi | Sure. Warning: duplicate item: /sbin/ldconfig for RequiresPostUn in package main | 21:51 |
| djszapi | Warning: duplicate item: /sbin/ldconfig for RequiresPost in package main | 21:51 |
| djszapi | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=kanagram.yaml&package=kanagram&project=home%3Adjszapi%3AKDE-Devel&rev=082c61247b9659bd7e1a9c4b4ca45604 -> for this yaml file contents. | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | it's basically saying "hey, i already noticed you need this because of your .spec file's '%{_libdir}/libkanagramengine.so* | 21:52 |
| Stskeeps | ' | 21:52 |
| Stskeeps | so no need to indicate it manually in yaml | 21:52 |
| djszapi | mmh, okay, thanks. | 21:53 |
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| rlinfati | Hi, why in mer-sdk-chroot you are coping the ssl cert from host if is available ca-certificates from mer-core ? | 23:38 |
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