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| Alison_Chaiken | jeremiah, are you coming out for the Tizen Conf? | 02:18 |
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| dcthang | Alison_Chaiken: could you tell which room for Tizen Conf? | 02:26 |
| Alison_Chaiken | dcthang, which *room*? You mean I should get over to Tizen IRC? | 02:26 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Sorry if I offend you, but I will work on both Mer and Tizen, but only see jeremiah on here. | 02:27 |
| dcthang | ah ok. a bit confusing. Sorry :) | 02:27 |
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| iekku | morning | 05:21 |
| Stskeeps | morn iekku o/ | 05:21 |
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| iekku | my internet needs some coffee... slow and doesn't want to work | 05:57 |
| * Stskeeps is writing up an irc guidelines email as he doesn't like to ban people without rules in place :P | 05:57 | |
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| iekku | :) | 06:02 |
| *** Stskeeps changes topic to "The Mer Project - http://www.merproject.org | http://wiki.merproject.org/ | Contribution to packages: http://bit.ly/tJUL43 | Building against Mer in COBS: http://bit.ly/v4riNg | This channel is logged, http://mer.bfst.de/logs | To see what you can help with, http://bit.ly/ymlJ0c & find "Available tasks' | Meetings: http://bit.ly/yP9Jg6 | IRC guidelines: http://bit.ly/xK6IRv" | 06:04 | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: -o Stskeeps | 06:04 | |
| Stskeeps | http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00349.html as well | 06:05 |
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| licl | Stskeeps:When I try running matchbox-window-manager in our system ,it says "error while loading shared libraries: libXdamage.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".But I have found it and cp it in to /usr/lib.Why does it still says the same words?Do you have any ideas? | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | licl: you probably want to rpm -i libXdamage package instead | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | and find this on the repositories | 06:18 |
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| N900_rus | hi all | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | hi N900_rus | 06:19 |
| timoph | morning | 06:19 |
| N900_rus | :) | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | morn timoph :) | 06:20 |
| licl | Stskeeps:thanks.I really did not know which package to install | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | licl: if you have network, zypper in matchbox-window-manager*.rpm might tell you | 06:20 |
| N900_rus | Stskeeps- I felt nemo))) | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | N900_rus: cool :) | 06:21 |
| timoph | any news on getting the obs search working? | 06:22 |
| timoph | lbt: ^ | 06:22 |
| licl | Stskeeps:We cannot use commands such as rpm... | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: front page search should work | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | licl: ah true | 06:22 |
| timoph | oh | 06:22 |
| * timoph tries | 06:22 | |
| dm8tbr | good moaning | 06:22 |
| N900_rus | <Stskeeps>Yes)) only in the Russian language would ......)))))))) | 06:23 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: nope. (Message: undefined method `strip' for nil:NilClass) | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: after clicking "Search" button, not the field? | 06:23 |
| timoph | ah | 06:24 |
| timoph | that works | 06:24 |
| timoph | good :) | 06:24 |
| timoph | seems that opencv is there already. just needs a new maintainer | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 06:25 |
| timoph | I think I'll copy it and it's deps into my home today and start updating | 06:26 |
| kulve | anybody aware of any omap3 projects/platforms (in addition to n9(xx)) that have the pvr_drv.so driver for X.Org? Or are they running without "proper" X.Org support? | 06:27 |
| kulve | I tried looking from Linaro hw packs and ubuntu repositories but didn't find X.Org driver for OMAP3 boards, only for OMAP4 | 06:28 |
| N900_rus | Stskeeps> When the assembly is to be Next? | 06:32 |
| licl | Stskeeps:Such a strange and funny problem!The matchbox depends Xdamage,while I compiled matchbox without Xdamage yesterday. | 06:32 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: btw, you may be able to downgrade xorg server, we did this also for panda | 06:37 |
| N900_rus | :) | 06:40 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: at least omap4 is getting a -sane- open xorg driver.. | 06:41 |
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| N900_rus | ?? | 06:47 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: yeah, I'm already tempted to move to our omap4 hardware ;) | 06:48 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: any suggestions in downgrading the xorg? I guess it has quite a bunch of dependencies? | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: you can probably get away by just adjusting the xorg version in .spec file and provide new tarball, i think | 06:50 |
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| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: not sure if you saw, but timoph got qt creator working within our platform sdk | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | and actually built stuff | 06:54 |
| jukkaeklund | well I trusted he gets it going :) | 06:54 |
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| jukkaeklund | so, install sdk and run qt creator there? | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | that's one way, yeah - it's just so we can start working from both ends | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | ie, one that will work on multiple distros and at same time improve the actual sdk experience | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: where did you have your qt creator package? | 06:57 |
| cxl000 | kulve the openpandora is omap3 with a 1.0.3 core. I have had some success on console but not under X. | 06:58 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qt-creator&project=home%3Atimoph | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 06:59 |
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| timoph | I tried pointing the cross compiler to creator. at least tt recognises it correctly. didn't try it it yet though | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i think there's a slight issue about cross compiling --sysroot's | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | i need to read up on that | 07:06 |
| timoph | ok | 07:06 |
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| licl | Stskeeps: I’ve recompiled matchbox.But when I run matchbox-window-manager,it say another .so file is missing .It seems matchbox need some other packages.How should I find them from so many packages of X? | 07:13 |
| licl | 07:13 | |
| Stskeeps | licl: ask sonach to teach you how to build images, that can help a lot | 07:13 |
| licl | ok | 07:15 |
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| Cwalle | Hi,all. The mic2 tool reminds me the qemu-arm-static version >=0.13 is required, but i could not use the apt-get to get that vision. Anyone has any idea? | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: get http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK instead | 07:29 |
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| Stskeeps | morn Alison_Chaiken, got the g9 yet? | 07:31 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I did get the g9 yesterday and will start the instal tomorrow. Looking forward to it! | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 07:31 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps: em, ok! let me try...... | 07:32 |
| Alison_Chaiken | No virtualbox for me, I want to see dem blinkin' lights! | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | start out with platform SDK at least, that'll give you the best experience | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: all clear for prerelease | 07:34 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I'll definitely start with the most basic environment. What I need is to get gpsd working and compile a Qt app for it, all by April 10. | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | sounds reasonable | 07:35 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Should not be too bad, as gps runs over USB, and is a fairly vanilla peripheral. | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, if it speaks NMEA too | 07:35 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Main question is will gpsd easily compile. Don't see why it wouldn't . . . | 07:35 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Yep, NMEA. So if gpsd compiles, the rest should be easy . . . famous last words! | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | think we have all dependencies in mer for it, except maybe 'xmlto', that should be possible to patch out | 07:37 |
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| Stskeeps | (and you should, 'xmlto' depends on an entire subsystem of packages that only serve to generate documentation..) | 07:38 |
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| Cwalle | Stskeeps: recently i downloaded the mer release tools with MerDS and try to figure out the organization of Mer. But while deals with such a big folders and files,i don't know how to start.so is that any documents or guide wiki to help already or will be | 07:40 |
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| Stskeeps | Cwalle: you're right, i ought to start making some documentation on this stuff.. | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: keep in mind that a linux distribution isn't always easy to understand and sometimes explain too ;) | 07:41 |
| * timoph has noticed that | 07:41 | |
| * Sage_ is fighting with poor 3g connection | 07:42 | |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/merbase-noglibclibgcc-nobashdeps.png is a simplified version how each component in Mer is connected, on just the base laye | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | r | 07:42 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: aws that build time or run time deps? | 07:43 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps:yeah, i find that that kind of OS like Mer or MeeGo always contain a lot things | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | this is runtime | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 07:44 |
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| Sage_ | interesting | 07:46 |
| Sage_ | well pkgconfig and info dpes are now cut off from that | 07:46 |
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| Sage_ | should check how hard gawk and sed dpes are there | 07:47 |
| Sage_ | hmmp.. hwdata dpes on module-init-tools IIRC that was replaced with libkmod so we might need update for that package | 07:49 |
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| Sage_ | seems to be ok deps. | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | this is an old snapshot fwiw | 08:03 |
| Sage_ | :nod: | 08:05 |
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| Sage_ | would be nice to see from newer image | 08:05 |
| Sage_ | I can see many deps that are removed | 08:05 |
| Sage_ | some in review but still | 08:05 |
| Sage_ | btw, udev should be retriggered in review now that systemd is in | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | will do | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | sent for review | 08:08 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: udev went through SBC | 08:17 |
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| Sage_ | SBC? | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | single build checks | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | ie, on it's own | 08:19 |
| Sage_ | yes, it goes through that easily as it has only runtime/install time deps to newer systemd | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | it didn't before, i think | 08:20 |
| Sage_ | build time it has been ok | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | oh | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | install time | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:20 |
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| Sage_ | ok, I'll move some info/man pages to -docs packages at some point more. | 08:22 |
| Termana | morning | 08:22 |
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| slaine | looks like I missed some fun | 08:39 |
| Cwalle | hi, as before i used mic-image-creator and a ks file like mer-core-armv7l-base.ks to generate a Mer rootfs, but how can i do this inside paltform_sdk | 08:41 |
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| Stskeeps | Cwalle: the wiki page says this :) | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | (i think) | 08:41 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps: i am reading the wiki | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | at least testing by building an image inside it | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | morn slaine o/ | 08:42 |
| Cwalle | you mean this command:sudo mic create fs mer-sdk-x86-chroot-latest.ks -o . --pkgmgr=yum --arch i486 --compress-disk-image=tar.bz2? | 08:42 |
| Cwalle | isn't it for building a sdk iamge? | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: yes, but test that out first | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | afterwards you can do mic create fs --arch armv7l instead and your own .ks | 08:43 |
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| Cwalle | Ooo,it's working now | 08:45 |
| Cwalle | i have used the wrong command like mic-iamge-creator | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: cool | 08:46 |
| seanvk | Has anyone experimented with building mer using yocto? | 08:48 |
| seanvk | Just curious | 08:48 |
| seanvk | I have an aversion to OBS...shudder | 08:48 |
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| Stskeeps | seanvk: i haven't tried with yocto, but in practice you need to build the .specs | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | seanvk: is it from SDK/development point of view you dislike OBS, or full distro compilation? | 08:52 |
| seanvk | SDK/development - interaction/upload/tools | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | so, i can sympatise, let me show what we're brewing | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | seanvk: so, we're brewing on a Scratchbox2 (not 1) based SDK, where practically, you generate a mer image, you initialize it as a target, and you can interactively install packages and build towards the target as if it was a fast target machine | 08:54 |
| seanvk | Sounds great. | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | even with full cross compilers and fast x86 tools | 08:55 |
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| seanvk | Very nice and something (SBox) many are familiar with | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Compiling_with_the_SDK_.28FIXME.29 is our development notes, most of this would be abstracted | 08:55 |
| seanvk | thanks for the link | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | we are also working on qt creator integration, already built things inside the platform SDK with it | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | so, the future is looking bright, we're just moving all the pieces into place at the moment | 08:56 |
| seanvk | Thanks for sharing your progress. Looking forward to it | 08:56 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: i'll let you know when we have a alpha version so we can get a first hand impression from a typical developer :) | 08:57 |
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| Stskeeps | eocanha: how is the porting going? | 08:58 |
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| lbt | morning all | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 09:03 |
| Bostik | morning | 09:03 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: core state should be all good(TM) for a prerelease snapshot | 09:05 |
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| slaine | morn Stskeeps lbt, everyone | 09:11 |
| slaine | I've coffee now so it's officially morning | 09:11 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: good - I'll trigger that now | 09:12 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: actually, take a look at monster:/home/prjfetcher-mertools/release-tools/releases/0.20120315.0.0.2/builds/ * / cross | 09:13 |
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| lbt | I know you said gcc/binutils - just checking on the cross-glibc and cross-kernel-headers too | 09:13 |
| lbt | better to ask now than go "d'oh" later | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | i'm sure, just gcc and binutils | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | also, that is empty | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | err.. | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | why is cross/ under "builds"? | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | nm | 09:14 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm an idiot | 09:14 |
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| lbt | do I leave the 'alien' package architecture directories such as releases/0.20120315.0.0.2/builds/armv7l/packages/i486/ where they are for now | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:21 |
| lbt | OK - it just offends my sense of tidiness :D | 09:22 |
| lbt | *tough* is an acceptable response | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | it's not really tough, just.. irritating | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | will go away with core-toolchain split | 09:23 |
| lbt | OK - that's a better answer | 09:23 |
| lbt | mmm | 09:23 |
| lbt | the $TOOLS/dumpbuild doesn't rm -rf | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | rm -rf what | 09:25 |
| lbt | obs-repos/ | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | it does not, no | 09:25 |
| lbt | yesterday I kept that area around and repeatedly did the transform on it | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | well, ctrl-c before it rsync anywhere.. | 09:26 |
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| lbt | removing the newly created releades/....0.2 each time | 09:26 |
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| lbt | check the script | 09:26 |
| lbt | we have $SKIPWGET | 09:26 |
| lbt | which is just to allow that | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:26 |
| lbt | but since it's populated and doesn't do a --delete-after we may have spurious files | 09:27 |
| lbt | not this time probably | 09:27 |
| lbt | but in the future | 09:27 |
| * lbt checks what all the wget options mean | 09:28 | |
| lbt | and thinks about converting them to longopts | 09:28 |
| lbt | so I think I should rm -rf obs-repos/*$RELEASE | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | not automatically, typically you shouldn't reuse release directories? | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | i can't promise the scripts are re-entrant safe | 09:31 |
| lbt | agreed - but it's really hard to test this stuff - hence we're really adding --dry-run functionality | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | mmk | 09:31 |
| lbt | for times like this when we're changing the script to add /cross | 09:32 |
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| lbt | I'll test for existence and abort rather than re-run wget | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | sane | 09:32 |
| niqt | morn | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | morn niqt | 09:33 |
| lbt | hi niqt | 09:33 |
| niqt | i have just installed active plasma 2 on wetab, but wifi don't run, is mer issue or plasma issue? | 09:34 |
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| Stskeeps | niqt: neither, hardware adaptation | 09:35 |
| niqt | ok | 09:36 |
| niqt | strange beacuse with old meego (meego community) was ok | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps it's just disabled by standard instead | 09:40 |
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| N900_rus | Stskeeps> Busy? | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | N900_rus: a bit | 09:57 |
| N900_rus | How do I install the memory nemo n900? Not a flash ... | 09:58 |
| N900_rus | Stskeeps> | 09:58 |
| N900_rus | I installed the flash ... Just boot Maemo retired | 09:59 |
| N900_rus | Multiboot help? | 10:00 |
| N900_rus | What would flash when loaded vynyat Maemo | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | N900_rus: it's not easy, sorry | 10:02 |
| N900_rus | And you have to mount the files for nemo | 10:02 |
| N900_rus | I understand that you are not who does not bestow gifts .. You all are striving for .. Smatret pleasant work ... Just my wishes to your contribution) | 10:03 |
| N900_rus | :) | 10:04 |
| N900_rus | The main thing that-be developed Architectural project .. This is important) | 10:04 |
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| Stskeeps | N900_rus: it's best to install to a microsd card | 10:05 |
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| N900_rus | I have a flash drive with a class 4 ... This is a small ( | 10:06 |
| N900_rus | Stskeeps> | 10:06 |
| N900_rus | You can even make a keyboard with the Towns language? | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | towns? | 10:07 |
| N900_rus | No. Layout of the virtual keyboard | 10:08 |
| N900_rus | Language is a system of Towns .. But he did not fully | 10:08 |
| N900_rus | :) | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | you can adjust that manually with setxkbmap | 10:10 |
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| N900_rus | Well .. When installed on the Maemo multiboot .. I will try again to install dumb ... Can not delete boot multiboot | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | multiboot and mer/nemo does not work together | 10:17 |
| N900_rus | At what frequency of CPU work? And you have the volume level when listening to music to lift | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | 600mhz, i think | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | and we can't go much higher for volume because of risk of damaging people's ears | 10:19 |
| N900_rus | multiboot and mer / nemo does not work together * - no .. Just when installed multiboot then a flasher will install nemo .. Then, when taking out a stick ... Will be loaded multoboot? | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | use uboot-pr13, that's what we recommend | 10:21 |
| N900_rus | No no)))) music when I was a rank .. It is quiet | 10:22 |
| N900_rus | Good move ... It is necessary to do so .. But without the flash and May will be run? | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | sorry, i don't understand | 10:24 |
| N900_rus | It is clear ... I am also from Belarus) I also do not understand English)) | 10:25 |
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| N900_rus | Translator translates some bad deals in the sense of | 10:27 |
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| N900_rus | How to make your files shared? Ie Maemo - nemo | 10:40 |
| andre__ | what do you mean by sharing exactly? | 10:45 |
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| N900_rus | When zahodish in files ... There is no file - /home/user/MyDocs | 10:47 |
| N900_rus | mount /dev/mmcblk0 /nemo | 10:48 |
| N900_rus | ? | 10:48 |
| andre__ | zahodish = заходишь? = "you go to" in English? | 10:54 |
| N900_rus | mm | 10:56 |
| N900_rus | Nemo does not see the files - / home / user / MyDocs | 10:57 |
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| N900_rus | ? | 11:23 |
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| lbt | N900_rus: some of your questions are probably better answered in #nemomobile | 11:35 |
| lbt | if I knew the answer I'd tell you :) | 11:35 |
| N900_rus | Thank you | 11:36 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: can you check that an rsync is OK? | 11:36 |
| lbt | I've left the i586/cross in the script in case we build them | 11:37 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i don't see a new version on releases.merproject.org | 11:37 |
| lbt | no, you said to stop it before the rsync.... | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: well, because it looked like you were going to rsync a re-entered release dir | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | i'll take a look | 11:38 |
| lbt | OK ... not prob, that's an easy step | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | looks ok | 11:42 |
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| * sledges finally found corresponding source for my only working kernel for i.MX53 ! and took another day to figure out that it needs to be compiled with the same gcc version, otherwise it doesn't boot........ | 11:46 | |
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| sledges | hello everyone | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: you might need -mno-unaligned-access | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | patch | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | at least if you use linaro toolchain or mer toolchain | 11:47 |
| sledges | why? i have it working now built from sources | 11:47 |
| sledges | im using ubuntu one | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | what did it break with before? | 11:47 |
| sledges | the one which the working image was compiled with | 11:47 |
| sledges | stops immediately after uncompressing kernel booting linux... | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | yes, what toolchains did it break with? | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:48 |
| sledges | :) | 11:48 |
| sledges | linaro | 11:48 |
| sledges | no | 11:48 |
| sledges | sorry | 11:48 |
| sledges | same ubuntu | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | is equal to the linaro one, usually | 11:48 |
| sledges | 4.6.2 breaks | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | you need a patch, sec | 11:48 |
| sledges | 4.6.1 works | 11:48 |
| sledges | ^ | 11:48 |
| sledges | gave me such a headache over last days..... | 11:49 |
| sledges | tried ~5 different kernels to build | 11:49 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=000-kcflag-mno-unaligned-access.patch&package=kernel-adaptation-n900&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN900&rev=9cdc38022e14fe78051a2e799587a375 | 11:49 |
| Stskeeps | you need that patch to compile with linaro and mer toolchain (same thing-ish) | 11:49 |
| sledges | involving ltib(!) :D which is apparently bollocks (even when claims to be an official supported kernel from freescale, does not support µSD as boot device and SATA disk at all) | 11:50 |
| sledges | this patch will be useful when I will be integrating it with Mer OBS | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:50 |
| N900_rus | oooO | 11:50 |
| N900_rus | ))) | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | it has the same symptoms | 11:50 |
| sledges | right, let me just try then | 11:50 |
| sledges | what has the same symptoms? (sorry cross-topiccing :)) | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: if you compile a kernel without this patch with linaro toolchain, it will stall at booting linu | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | x | 11:51 |
| sledges | ok | 11:52 |
| sledges | wonder why ubuntu gcc4.6.1 worked then (!?) | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | because the bug was introduced in 4.6.2 | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | s/bug/featre | 11:53 |
| * sledges shouts | 11:53 | |
| Stskeeps | feature | 11:53 |
| sledges | :D | 11:53 |
| sledges | any at least slightly inferior feature is indistinguishable from a bug | 11:53 |
| sledges | ... | 11:53 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, where could i find evtest in Mer's repos? | 11:53 |
| sledges | privet N900_rus :) | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | don't think we have it | 11:54 |
| N900_rus | привет ) | 11:54 |
| sledges | ok then I'll build it from sources | 11:54 |
| N900_rus | sledges> | 11:54 |
| sledges | приятно познакомится :) | 11:55 |
| N900_rus | взаимно ) | 11:56 |
| N900_rus | вы через переводчик?))) | 11:57 |
| lbt | sledges: Stskeeps: de we want something other than mer-core for diagnostics like evtest (and the mer-gfx-tests, powertop) | 11:57 |
| lbt | yay ... released! | 11:58 |
| lbt | OK, I need to go help out with the building stuff ... bbiab | 11:58 |
| sledges | нет, я со свойми ошыбками :)) | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | please keep it english in here.. | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: mer tools | 11:59 |
| sledges | sorry, won't go beyond there :) | 11:59 |
| N900_rus | <sledges> дак чего вы раньше молчали?)))) | 11:59 |
| N900_rus | sorry))) | 11:59 |
| sledges | that's why, N900_rus :) | 12:00 |
| sledges | and I did not see your nick before &) | 12:00 |
| N900_rus | :) | 12:01 |
| N900_rus | хех) | 12:03 |
| N900_rus | да.. надо себе ник придумать) | 12:03 |
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| N900_rus | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120315.0.0.2/builds/ yes)) | 12:06 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, where can I find mer-gfx-tests project on MeeGo OBS if it's there? | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: it's in a mer release, just install it | 12:09 |
| sledges | i need to ref it's .yaml for my evtest.. | 12:09 |
| sledges | thought'd be the closest | 12:10 |
| N900_rus | ) | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/mer-gfx-tests.git;a=tree | 12:10 |
| sledges | brilliant, thanks! | 12:10 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, there's something else wrong after I patched the Makefile, probably a messed up toolchain (i did make clean, or should it be mrproper ?) i'll sort the toolchain and try again | 12:30 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, could you please tell me why doesn't it start building? https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=evtest&project=home%3Asledge%3AMer%3ATools | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: topic | 12:34 |
| sledges | or anyone else who understand OBS stuff ^ thanks | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | hint: "Building against Mer" | 12:34 |
| sledges | hm the x11o-xorg-drv-imx worked fine, i'll seek for more clues between those | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | your meta is messed up | 12:35 |
| sledges | specify said I have no Makefile (but Makefile.am is there). Should I run ./configure on HOST ? hope it will produce correct binding for cross-compiling later.. | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | ignore the Makefile thing | 12:42 |
| * sledges found the problem: forgot to add the Architecture bit :) | 12:49 | |
| Stskeeps | was waiting for you to find out ;) | 12:50 |
| sledges | so I could remember for longer :)) | 12:51 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, do you think I could follow this for i.MX53 http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Compiling_with_the_SDK_.28FIXME.29 or I could at least start adapting it ? | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: you should follow lbt's kernel guide instead | 12:53 |
| sledges | kernel guide? but for now I'm not trying to incorporate one yet, or is the building aspect similar? | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: oh you mean for building | 12:54 |
| sledges | yea, same evtest for example | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: it's probably easier to do quick packaging and wait a bit while we sort it out | 12:54 |
| sledges | i'm getting make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. on OBS, so though I could just move to Platform_SDK sb2 gcc evtest.c instead ;) | 12:55 |
| sledges | s/though/thought; | 12:55 |
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| Stskeeps | sledges: you can just run %configure in the .spc file | 12:57 |
| sledges | evtest src has autogen.sh as a first stage configurator, which in turn calls autoreconf (don't have those tools even on my host..) | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | %reconfigure | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | or just run autogen.sh before %configure | 12:59 |
| sledges | ok | 12:59 |
| sledges | will try that, thanks for the magic words :) | 12:59 |
| sledges | worked | 13:03 |
| N900_rus | эх | 13:03 |
| sledges | Configure: autogen in .yaml did the whole job ;) | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 13:05 |
| N900_rus | ))) | 13:05 |
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| blackpearl | is anyone out there ? | 13:41 |
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| sledges | it appears | 13:42 |
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| lbt | blackpearl: many busy people are around :) | 13:49 |
| bigbluehat | lbt: am not | 13:50 |
| bigbluehat | :) | 13:50 |
| lbt | blackpearl: many busy people are around ... and then we also have bigbluehat... :) | 13:50 |
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| timoph | evening | 17:07 |
| timoph | MerBot: botsnack | 17:07 |
| MerBot | timoph: Error: "botsnack" is not a valid command. | 17:07 |
| timoph | :/ | 17:08 |
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| lbt | evening ... and "ouch" | 18:30 |
| lbt | shifted 6 tons of soil today | 18:30 |
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| Stskeeps | sounds hard | 18:34 |
| lbt | yeah - it was. We have a fairly steep slope to get up too | 18:34 |
| lbt | 2 tons more tomorrow morning ... then a huge number of paving slabs in the afternoon | 18:35 |
| lbt | at least I'm getting fitter | 18:35 |
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| timoph | lbt: cobs stuck or just a very long build queue? | 19:15 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Anyone know a USB hub with right connectors for Archos tablet? I want to cry: no way to attach keyboard means no way to get started with Mer install. | 19:51 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I guess I will have to take apart an existing hub and solder new connectors to it, or maybe make a hub on a breadboard. | 19:57 |
| wmarone | not at all. it's just a huge, huge pain | 19:59 |
| wmarone | at least, if it's anything like the nook color >.> | 19:59 |
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| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: don't you just need a OTG cable? | 20:04 |
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| Stskeeps | though i'm not a g9 expert | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | (and why would you need a keyboard?) | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | albeit it helps | 20:08 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I need a microUSB to miniUSB cable. Is that OTG? | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB-Host-Mode-Cable-OTG-Cable-Archos-G9-/360422361744 kind of thing you probably nee | 20:09 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Why would I need a keyboard? How will I install Mer, using a soft keyboard at the console? | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | d | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | usually we just flash images, we don't really have installers :) | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | except on x86 | 20:10 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Precisely, Stskeeps. The last time I had this problem, I bought a Gumstix daughter card and used that, are they are sold in Palo Alto nearby! | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | looks like the g9 has microsd too | 20:12 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I'd like to set up the system with Mer-Android-MeeGo-Tizen but we'll see how possible that is. | 20:12 |
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| Stskeeps | well, first step is to figure out how to boot your own rootfs from some source and then your own kernel | 20:21 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I have USB OTG cables left over from Gumstix, but they are mini-A to mini-B. Oh well! | 20:23 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Stskeeps, you're saying I should boot from USB first? Probably is I have no way to repartition the disk or boot from external media until I get that darned adapter cable. | 20:31 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Can't believe that there's more than one kind of cable labelled "USB OTG". I'd like to hurt somebody. | 20:32 |
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| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: well, i'd advise you to look at google searches for archos gen9 SDE i guess, it seems entirely plausible to boot your own rolled stuff | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479913 as an example | 20:34 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Thanks Stskeeps, dm8tbr and av500 and I think vgrade all already have Mer going on G9. | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:36 |
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| lbt | Alison_Chaiken: when someone says they have "X working on a device" I consider it incomplete until someone else can follow their docs on how to do it :) | 20:54 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | lbt, concur. I was about to do it, but I have to order the damned cable. | 21:06 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I can always run Tizen on it, too, right? (Bwahaha.) | 21:06 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I'd like to set it up Tizen-Mer-MeeGo and run the same IVI apps in each as a demo. | 21:07 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Maybe I'll do Tizen-Mer-UbuntuIVI insteda. | 21:07 |
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| lbt | Alison_Chaiken: what is this mythical Tizen of which you speak? Has the beast been sighted in the wildes? | 21:21 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Not in the wild, lbt, just in an emulator. | 21:30 |
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| compiledit | hi. for the first time a recent kernel compiled for n900. i'm happy about that, because i'm no developer and if it has errors while compiling i couldn't fix it. also no friends and that's why I have you have to read this text :-D | 21:44 |
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| compiledit | if you are interested in the config, you can find it here: http://pastebin.com/SZKkrpG3 it's pretty much based on meego config but I also checked some things that "sound" good and i had no idea what i was doing. | 21:47 |
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| compiledit | if you are a kernel developer you might find it funny. on the other hand, if you are not and couldn't get a recent kernel for n900 to compile you might as well give it a try. | 21:49 |
| compiledit | ..... of course.... it's untested! i was just so happy it finished, i had to tell someone. prepare for kernelpanic.... buuut i'm (baseless) confident it will work. | 21:51 |
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| jeronimo | hi guys, I wonder is there a "plain linux" for N950 | 21:56 |
| jeronimo | I mean without x | 21:56 |
| jeronimo | qt and so on | 21:56 |
| wmarone | maybe you could make one with a subset of mer... | 21:59 |
| jeronimo | yea I was guessing so :) | 22:02 |
| jeronimo | want to build a pocket server :) | 22:03 |
| jeronimo | no ui needed | 22:03 |
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| jeronimo | i wondered if i just could kill all ui stuff on n950 | 22:05 |
| jeronimo | and keep the system | 22:05 |
| jeronimo | however it would be cooler to do it right way ;) | 22:06 |
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| compiledit | nothing is as cool as my compiled and untested kernel ;-) | 22:14 |
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| lbt | NSA spec for secure android : http://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/Mobility_Capability_Pkg_%28Version_1.1U%29.pdf | 22:46 |
| lbt | "Standard voice phone calls, with the exception of emergency 911 calls, shall not be allowed" | 22:47 |
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| jeronimo | hi lbt, is there a workin nemo image for n950? | 23:04 |
| lbt | yes :) | 23:06 |
| jeronimo | i tried latest, it keeps rebooting | 23:06 |
| jeronimo | :( | 23:06 |
| jeronimo | "latest = | 23:07 |
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| lbt | nb #nemomobile is the place to discuss | 23:07 |
| jeronimo | nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-0.20120209.1.NEMO.2012-03-01.2.tar.bz2 | 23:07 |
| lbt | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/ | 23:08 |
| lbt | try going back a release | 23:09 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Here goes what must be an FAQ: I want to import a git repo into an OBS project. | 23:14 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I take it that the best way is a shell script using CLI? | 23:14 |
| lbt | hmm | 23:15 |
| lbt | I'm *really* interested in this Alison_Chaiken | 23:15 |
| lbt | take a look at this repo http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-tools/osc.git;a=summary | 23:15 |
| Alison_Chaiken | lbt, I was looking here: | 23:16 |
| Alison_Chaiken | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mer_OBS_Build | 23:16 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I'll check yours. | 23:16 |
| lbt | *nod* | 23:16 |
| lbt | mine is a WIP and PoC | 23:16 |
| lbt | look at the bottom of that repo | 23:16 |
| lbt | and look at the mer-pkg tree | 23:16 |
| lbt | the look at the mer-master tree | 23:17 |
| lbt | Alison_Chaiken: also look at : http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step#Make_a_kernel_package | 23:19 |
| lbt | what that does is talk about using a git tree with a base sha1 to create a tarball | 23:19 |
| lbt | then use a little bit of shell to go from that sha1 (which typically represents "upstream") | 23:20 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Perfect! Thank you. That will save me some time. | 23:20 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Why read opensuse documentation if you can ask on Mer IRC? | 23:20 |
| lbt | to a collection of patches that can be put in specify | 23:20 |
| lbt | :D | 23:20 |
| lbt | and hopefully I'll get round to making this the native OBS storage format one year | 23:21 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3544477 | 23:21 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Yeah, I'm long in bash scripts. Thanks, much better than starting from cloned repo and trying to rsync. | 23:21 |
| lbt | and some chit-chat http://pastie.org/3544493 | 23:21 |
| lbt | (I was sharing progress with phaeron) | 23:22 |
| lbt | anyhow... lots to dig around in - let me know if you have any thoughts on this generally. | 23:22 |
| lbt | typically the problem is managing a complex patchset on top of a moving upstream | 23:23 |
| lbt | anyhow ... bed for me now.... o/ | 23:23 |
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