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| timoph | morning | 05:02 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Huomenta! | 05:32 |
| Alison_Chaiken | My soon-to-be-Mer Archos tablet has shipped but not arrived yet. | 05:33 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I am so eager to get it . . . how eager? | 05:33 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I am so eager that I finished working on my taxes today so that I won't have to do it after the unit arrives. | 05:33 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Doing U.S. taxes is horrible, as bad as being forced to read documentation using the "info" command. | 05:34 |
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| timoph | :) | 05:39 |
| timoph | luckily we have prefilled tax forms/tax proposals in Finland. I have never needed to change anything in it | 05:40 |
| * Stskeeps yawns | 05:55 | |
| Stskeeps | first day being out of work in 7.5 years and still i wake up at 6.30.. | 05:56 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, old dog with old habbits? | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 06:01 |
| iekku | i just started new day in new life | 06:02 |
| iekku | and my phone works still | 06:02 |
| iekku | maybe... | 06:02 |
| * Stskeeps (still) needs coffee | 06:03 | |
| Stskeeps | brb | 06:03 |
| iekku | haven't got new sim card yet, just waiting when the current is shut down | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | will you have new phonenumber? | 06:04 |
| iekku | no, keeping the old one | 06:04 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:05 |
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| timoph | iekku: so your divorce with ixonos is now final? | 06:06 |
| iekku | yes | 06:06 |
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| iekku | waiting for the rest of my money... but i don't have any responsibilities for ixonos | 06:07 |
| timoph | :) | 06:07 |
| timoph | sounds like a typical divorce to me | 06:09 |
| iekku | :nod: | 06:13 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | All of you guys are changing jobs, iekku and Stskeeps/ | 06:19 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Oops, ? | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: yeah, many are - it's big exit day for many nokia projects | 06:20 |
| Alison_Chaiken | So far my self-employment looks promising although it's not about to make me rich. | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: i'm a consultant so i just need to find new gigs | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | "just" | 06:20 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Yeah, I heard from qgil and others in Sunnyvale that January and February were the end of the line for them. | 06:20 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Incredible that new Nokia ultracamera phone is Symbian. I thought Elop was going to take charge of that company . . . | 06:21 |
| iekku | i was subcontractor and knew that my project will end, so i made my moves. good time to do that, ixonos shows the front door for over 30% of people in my department | 06:21 |
| wmarone_ | Alison_Chaiken: he did, just not the way people had hoped | 06:21 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Here in California the job market is jumping. | 06:21 |
| Alison_Chaiken | The market was never bad, and now it's really hot again. | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: there was a funny quote in one of the articles.. chose symbian because they could actually modify the camera app to their needs | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:22 |
| Alison_Chaiken | U.I. people, sysadmins, network stack are all in high demand. | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | either way, 2012 looks to be an interesting year ahead | 06:22 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Tons of Android work too. | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | compared to 2011 | 06:22 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I have two new contracts almost for sure and a third (on ARM! yay) likely, so I'm optimistic. | 06:23 |
| iekku | in finland there's huge amount of new small companies | 06:23 |
| Alison_Chaiken | With Nokia meltdown, Helsinki will be next Silicon Valley, as so many smart people will be set adrift. | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | on the meego summit in tampere (i think) i was in a panel and it was about consequences for finland after feb11 | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | .. and i thought it was actually the best thing that could have happened for finland -- because so many companies are no longer tied to nokia's slowness in innovation or tied to their products | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | and many talents, too | 06:25 |
| iekku | :nod: | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | which is needed in the kind of technology world we're approaching | 06:25 |
| iekku | and old nokia people have now posibility to try their wings | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: does your consulting business have a homepage yet? | 06:27 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I agree, in the long run the Nokia destruction will help Finland. Let 1000 flowers bloom. | 06:27 |
| Alison_Chaiken | http://she-devel.com/ , Stskeeps. | 06:27 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Kind of primitive still. Getting too much work to obsess over web page! | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 06:28 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Anyone here use gpsd on mer? dm8tbr, anyone using built-in Archos 101g9 GPS with mer? | 06:29 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is over time to have a list of vendors (consultancies, UI projects, hackers, companies, hardware integration) surrounding Mer as well on the merproject page | 06:29 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: i think Simon from Arcom-IVI was looking into it | 06:29 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Arcom, hmm, I'll look them up. | 06:30 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Thanks. | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | he's actively prototyping qt-based IVI interfaces on top of Mer | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | and was the navit maintainer in meego | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: are you on the mer mailing list? | 06:32 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I should sign up for mer mailing list, Stskeeps. Then I'd just need to read it . . . | 06:33 |
| Alison_Chaiken | But meego ones are dead now, so I guess I need more. | 06:33 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Is there an archive of old messages on merproject page? | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mailing_lists , http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/ | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | search for "IVI group interest" on there | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | it's a bit higher volume than meego mailing lists as we actually work in the open :P | 06:34 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Ah yes. I'm on it. | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 06:36 |
| * Stskeeps flashes his n9 after 'clear device' decided to nuke it instead.. | 06:36 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: did you toy with webui-ci last night? | 06:40 |
| Stskeeps | (i have a bunch of 503 service unavailable) | 06:45 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:23 |
| niqt | Stskeeps: what it should do a company that would support mer? | 07:23 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: is the static repo in COBS against older mer core still up? just wondering why the i586 buid is getting blocked messages | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | niqt: moment (talking to my father) | 07:29 |
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| Stskeeps | niqt: many different ways.. in the future, we will have a non-profit you can donate to us to have servers, or you can contribute contributors working on the code, etc | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: the one we set up for mdfe should be there | 07:41 |
| jukkaeklund | is plasma active arm still broken? | 07:45 |
| * Stskeeps tries to resurrect his n9 | 07:46 | |
| Sage_ | jukkaeklund: still? | 07:46 |
| Sage_ | I have it running on panda, it is about 2 weeks old thing but still it is running | 07:47 |
| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, whats wrong with it? | 07:47 |
| jukkaeklund | Sage_, I don't know just remember seeing was it vgrade mentioned | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: "clear device" caused it to want a reflash | 07:47 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: btw, I hope you gave enough time for clear device. It is like 1 hour process and it seems dead in the middle IIRC :) | 07:47 |
| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, yeah that happens.. | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: yes, it rebooted and gave reflash ogo | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | logo | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:48 |
| Sage_ | ah, :P | 07:48 |
| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, best is to fetch pr1.2 with navifirm and do a real flash | 07:48 |
| jukkaeklund | ..or from official place if you have access.. | 07:48 |
| niqt | Stskeeps:now my main work is to work as an employee, but I also have my own business (along with another member) that I'd like to be involved in the future of Mer, for now the little nemo I do I do for my personal thing | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: yeah, no more official place sadly, navifirm seems like a sane direction | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | niqt: sure, best way is simply to participate :) | 07:49 |
| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, yeah it works.. | 07:49 |
| jukkaeklund | niqt, right, just being around helps :) | 07:49 |
| niqt | :) | 07:50 |
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| * jukkaeklund looking at archos the real turbo model slipped to April | 07:50 | |
| niqt | (coffe break) | 07:50 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, replaced flasher with a newer version | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | seems saner | 08:09 |
| jukkaeklund | yep | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | grr, yet another reflash notice | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | don't tell me i have to install nemo on this thing to get a useful system ;) | 08:18 |
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| jukkaeklund | flasher -f -F file -F emmc_file --erase-mmc=quick should do it | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. let's see | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | trying PR1.2 now | 08:23 |
| kulve | lbt: I created a new SDK in a new dir and still the same bind mount error. "sudo mount --bind /var/tmp/mic/cache /var/tmp/mic/test/" fails inside SDK and succeeds outside | 08:24 |
| kulve | and btw, does the /tmp inside the SDK have wrong permissions? Should be 1777 but is something else and a normal user can't write in there | 08:25 |
| Sage_ | kulve: what version of mic? | 08:25 |
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| kulve | whatever comes in mer-sdk-i486-chroot-0.20120209.1.tar.bz2 | 08:25 |
| Sage_ | mic --version :) | 08:25 |
| kulve | $ mic --version | 08:25 |
| kulve | 0.7git | 08:25 |
| kulve | but I'm not running mic.. | 08:25 |
| Sage_ | oh, ok | 08:26 |
| kulve | well, I would but I guess it would run that mount command and it fails even without mic.. | 08:26 |
| kulve | is there a way to see more exact failure for the mount instead of the typical "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock etc" error? | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | 'dmesg' maybe | 08:29 |
| kulve | nothing there | 08:29 |
| Sage_ | return code of the cmd? | 08:31 |
| kulve | 32 32 mount failure | 08:32 |
| kulve | -32 | 08:32 |
| kulve | not very verbose :) | 08:32 |
| Sage_ | :P | 08:32 |
| kulve | what should /etc/mtab be? Empty or a link to e.g. /proc/self/mounts? | 08:35 |
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| kulve | http://pastie.org/3494811 | 08:36 |
| * Sage_ ponders why there is such bind mount in the first place | 08:37 | |
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| kulve | Sage_: see 15:51 (GMT+2) yesterday | 08:38 |
| kulve | the directories in my test above are just made up while debugging the problem | 08:38 |
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| kulve | the actual mic error is pasted here yesterday 13:35 GMT+2 | 08:40 |
| Sage_ | oh, ok | 08:40 |
| Sage_ | which is the reason why I asked about mic version :) | 08:41 |
| Sage_ | mic had mount bug in one of the versions which prevented the useage | 08:42 |
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| Sage_ | https://github.com/jfding/mic/commit/c2d72ae62ac4531c0d02feed6b9db3a579c1477b | 08:43 |
| kulve | could it be related to this problem? What could be preventing bind mount inside the SDK when it works outside | 08:43 |
| Sage_ | kulve: ^ there should be such mounth anymore :) | 08:43 |
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| kulve | shouldn't? | 08:43 |
| Sage_ | yum-cache should not be mounted anymore in latest mic git master | 08:44 |
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| kulve | and that was the only bind mount inside mic? | 08:44 |
| Sage_ | it was the only that kind of bindmount it seems | 08:45 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... might be a bug in mic 0.7git also | 08:47 |
| kulve | should I try to apply that patch to mic inside my SDK? | 08:47 |
| kulve | lunch break, bbi 30mins | 08:48 |
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| Stskeeps | oh friggen finally, it's booting | 08:58 |
| lbt | morning all | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 09:01 |
| sonach | morning lbt:) | 09:01 |
| lbt | hey sonach | 09:01 |
| lbt | kulve what kind of fs is /var/tmp/mic | 09:01 |
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| lbt | hmm MerBot is up but logsite is down | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | new site maybe | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | either way, i'm sure dm8tbr will look at it when he's awake | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | i'm logging, anyway | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | in worst case | 09:08 |
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| kulve | lbt: the last mount was under /tmp and I guess that's a normal directory (and my Ubuntu is running on ext4) | 09:21 |
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| lbt | kulve: just wrapping up a meeting | 09:24 |
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| dm8tbr | -.o | 09:26 |
| * Stskeeps passes dm8tbr the coffee pot | 09:27 | |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps / lbt - dns issue, hopefully resolved soon(tm) | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | if you want a merproject.org dns for the site, let us know | 09:27 |
| lbt | actually, moving it to a VM would be good | 09:28 |
| dm8tbr | sure, I can add an alias right now | 09:28 |
| dm8tbr | and moving to a VM would then be next | 09:28 |
| dm8tbr | actually I think the dns issue just got fixed 10min ago | 09:29 |
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| lbt | yep | 09:30 |
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| lbt | irclog.merproject.org? | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | irclogs and meetbot? | 09:31 |
| * lbt adds an s | 09:32 | |
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| lbt | meetbot? does that need a DNS entry? | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | yes, meeting logs..? | 09:32 |
| lbt | what's irclogs then? | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | irclogs is for #mer irc logs | 09:33 |
| lbt | why are they different? | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/ vs http://mer.bfst.de/logs/%23mer/ | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | meetings is meetbot output, logs is general irc los | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | logs | 09:34 |
| lbt | and you want them on 2 different DNS entries ... I think that's confusing | 09:34 |
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| Stskeeps | i want them on two different DNS entries, yes, they're two different contexts | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | also makes for shorter urls | 09:35 |
| lbt | I don't understand why an irc meeting and an irc chat are different enough to warrant 2 DNS entries. | 09:37 |
| lbt | You also then have to configure them in a more complex way | 09:37 |
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| lbt | why make life hard for zero gain | 09:37 |
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| lbt | the infra is complex enought | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | so, we've just wasted 5 minutes talking about something that is fairly simple to do. OK, we'll go for your way, it's a waste of both our times to argue about the intricate details of URL naming | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | i just wanted a one-stop place for looking at mer meeting summaries that's easy to remember and get to | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | simple as that | 09:40 |
| lbt | yes - irclogs.merproject.org/meetings | 09:41 |
| lbt | I'd almost say : http://merproject.org/meetings | 09:41 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: IP ? | 09:42 |
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| kulve | how can I get a patch out of github conveniently with a browser? I.e. this one: https://github.com/jfding/mic/commit/c2d72ae62ac4531c0d02feed6b9db3a579c1477b | 09:52 |
| kulve | well, git clone was easier.. | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | let me know when you find out, i usually resort to checking out the git and git format-patch | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:54 |
| lbt | kulve: what kernel are you using? | 09:56 |
| kulve | 3.0.0-14-generic | 09:57 |
| kulve | stock ubuntu | 09:57 |
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| lbt | *nod* I don't run ubuntu so I can't just look :) | 09:57 |
| kulve | but I did do a mic build on tuesday couple of times successfully | 09:57 |
| lbt | the bind mount failure is very odd | 09:57 |
| lbt | 3.0.0-1-amd64 here BTW | 09:58 |
| kulve | 64bit here as well | 09:58 |
| lbt | so it's not radically different | 09:58 |
| lbt | I think that's stock debian (or I forgot to add -lbt) | 09:58 |
| kulve | well, not stock debian stable at least :) | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: any idea why webui-ci went 503 during last night btw? | 09:59 |
| lbt | I'll look | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | k | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | it's ok now though | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | it stopped my benchmark, but thank $DEITY it's resumable | 10:00 |
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| lbt | sorry - I kept well away from monster - didn't realise it was using anything over there | 10:00 |
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| Stskeeps | well, it does proxy fwding to webui-ci at least | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | it's okay, i just wanted to check if it was a 'caused' failure, or breakdown of something | 10:01 |
| lbt | OK - I was trying to get publishing to work for the CI images | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:02 |
| lbt | likely a side-effect | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:02 |
| lbt | nb OUOSL pinged back on hosting ... emailing them | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | i'm still hacking on sb2 support on top of the new cross stuff | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | since it's time sensitive | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | it's quite cool actually, i can do a 'sane' tools chroot | 10:05 |
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| Stskeeps | morn sledges | 10:13 |
| sledges | dzień dobry :) | 10:14 |
| kulve | lbt: I tried the original SDK tar ball that Stskeeps pointed me to and that one worked out of the box.. | 10:14 |
| sledges | lbt updated link to https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/latest/images/mer-sdk-i486-chroot/mer-sdk-i486-chroot-latest.tar.bz2 but it is broken (only *0.20120209.1.tar.bz2 in there, so a symlink on FS is needed) | 10:14 |
| Sage_ | why I am logged out of Mer wiki from time to time? | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | session timeout maybe | 10:16 |
| Sage_ | e.g., after very long page edit (read 45min was at lunch) it complains that I don't have permissions to save the text which is annoying | 10:17 |
| * sledges was about http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK to clear the context | 10:18 | |
| * sledges taking my words back, it's a see-it-for-yourself link now | 10:21 | |
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| lbt | Sage_: you need to tick "remember me" when you login | 10:30 |
| lbt | I had the same problem | 10:30 |
| lbt | I think that's what fixed it | 10:30 |
| lbt | sledges: yep - good - makes more sense | 10:31 |
| lbt | kulve: so the sdk here https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/latest/images/mer-sdk-i486-chroot/ fails for you? | 10:31 |
| kulve | this seems to fail: mer-sdk-i486-chroot-0.20120209.1.tar.bz2 | 10:32 |
| kulve | this seems to work: mer-sdk-x86-chroot-latest.tar.bz2 (file timestamp "2012-02-28 08:49" GMT+2) | 10:32 |
| kulve | the latter did fail after upgrading it yesterday | 10:33 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: With the qmlviewer .ks I now have X.Org running with working touchscreen :) | 10:33 |
| lbt | OK - this is a pita but can you do some installs/runs to show me the mount points | 10:33 |
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| kulve | The Qt logo is half out of the screen though (vertical display) | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: congrats :) | 10:34 |
| lbt | so install vanilla 'latest' and enter it, do the bind mount and cat /proc/mounts | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: possibly run qmlviewer maximized | 10:34 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: I'll debug the mount thing a bit now and then continue with the X.Org stuff | 10:35 |
| lbt | then upgrade the sdk-chroot package | 10:35 |
| Sage_ | lbt: I had but still it logged me out it seems. | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: alright | 10:35 |
| lbt | then do it again | 10:35 |
| * Sage_ does it again | 10:35 | |
| lbt | Sage_: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118 | 10:35 |
| lbt | oh, nm | 10:35 |
| lbt | I thought there was more detail from alterego there | 10:35 |
| lbt | sorry | 10:35 |
| Sage_ | Could we get Nemo to Navigation bar on the left to wiki.merproject.org? | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: mm, ideally no, we should make a vendors page instead | 10:36 |
| kulve | lbt: so, this is the latest vanilla: https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/latest/images/mer-sdk-i486-chroot/mer-sdk-i486-chroot-0.20120209.1.tar.bz2 ? | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | no preferentials | 10:36 |
| kulve | is there a difference between the "x86" and the "i486" or what it just a name change at some point? | 10:36 |
| lbt | kulve: sorry about the naming | 10:36 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ok, so what do you mean with that? wiki.nemomobile.org? ? | 10:36 |
| lbt | kulve: you said : this seems to work: mer-sdk-x86-chroot-latest.tar.bz2 (file timestamp "2012-02-28 08:49" GMT+2) | 10:37 |
| kulve | ok | 10:37 |
| lbt | so lets use that one and get mounts when it works | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: as in that nemo being available in navigation bar would signal it's a preferred project in mer and we can't do that -- the idea is to have a page on merproject.org that refers to all the actors/vendors involved/using mer | 10:37 |
| kulve | that one has the version of "mer-sdk-chroot" that doesn't require separate mount/enter/umount parameter | 10:37 |
| lbt | kulve: correct | 10:38 |
| lbt | and it worked :) | 10:38 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: fair enough. It is just that currently it is too easy to get lost in the wiki :P | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: agreed | 10:38 |
| lbt | so lets see what changed to break it (but only on ubuntu) | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: we need to revamp main page and wiki page | 10:38 |
| kulve | lbt: this is the /proc/mounts in there (minus some Windows mounts): http://pastie.org/private/t6oyezurbadi1pattpkza | 10:40 |
| lbt | ok | 10:40 |
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| kulve | the PS1 doesn't work in the old SDK and I got a bit confused when I couldn't log in to the old SDK inside the old SDK.. | 10:49 |
| lbt | no, ps1 is a recent improvement | 10:49 |
| lbt | for pretty much that reason | 10:50 |
| lbt | oh, and the "D'oh I just closed my terminal, not the SDK!" one too | 10:50 |
| kulve | I did earlier manually export PS1="[Mer] $PS1" but forgot it last time. And when you are doing multiple things at the same time, some details tend to forgot ;) | 10:50 |
| lbt | hehe ... been there... | 10:50 |
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| kulve | lbt: I managed somehow to miss half of the lines in the above pastie. This is what is was first and also after the upgrade (they are identical except one extra /var/run/shm): http://pastie.org/private/qlvgfdzuqwpirhg9uq | 11:01 |
| lbt | I thought that was small but was waiting for #2 | 11:02 |
| kulve | and by "after the upgrade" I mean only upgrade, no login/mount/enter. Wait a bit for that one | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | 'su' is the most screwed up tool i've ever met | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't really do anything it claims to | 11:03 |
| lbt | hehe | 11:03 |
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| Stskeeps | "preserve environment" | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | not working | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | "run command with args" | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | not working | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | etc | 11:04 |
| * Stskeeps curses posix and looks over at win32 api | 11:04 | |
| lbt | su -s /bin/bash -l $user -- -c "exec bash --init-file /mer-bash-setup -i" | 11:04 |
| lbt | is how I made something approximating a login | 11:04 |
| kulve | lbt: this is after the logout/mount/enter: http://tuomas.kulve.fi/tmp/mer-sdk-paste-after-upgrade.txt (doubled the lines and I guess at least most of them are related to /parentroot) | 11:05 |
| lbt | yes parentroot is now supposed to be a full dupe of / | 11:05 |
| kulve | I didn't try mic after the upgrade and before the logout/mount/enter but at least now after the logout/mount/enter it fails again | 11:06 |
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| lbt | kulve: could you umount, then edit mer-sdk-chroot and comment out the : mount --make-unbindable lines (146, 179) | 11:24 |
| lbt | then try again | 11:24 |
| kulve | Info: The new image can be found here: | 11:28 |
| kulve | ... | 11:28 |
| kulve | Info: Finished. | 11:28 |
| kulve | i.e. works | 11:28 |
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| slaine | lbt, ok, I've installed opens use 11.4 on the Dell server | 11:34 |
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| slaine | I setup the drives to be stripe raid and them created an lvm group called build host on the raid device | 11:34 |
| slaine | I then created a 40Gb lvm volume called phost and have that running 11.4, fully updated and I'm ssh'd into it now | 11:35 |
| lbt | 11.4 ? | 11:37 |
| slaine | opensuse | 11:37 |
| lbt | kulve: so removing the make-unbindable worked? | 11:37 |
| kulve | looks like the Sage_'s libutempter addition failed for armv7 (if I can read the Gerrit right) | 11:37 |
| slaine | the OBS Setup guide indicated that 12.1 wasn't a good idea yet | 11:37 |
| slaine | if you think that's out of date and I should be on 12.1, I can do that now | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: review fluke | 11:37 |
| kulve | lbt: yes | 11:38 |
| lbt | slaine: it's not crucial | 11:38 |
| zumbi | slaine: 12.1 works fine for me | 11:38 |
| lbt | kulve: OK - they work here (and are kinda useful for multiple SDKs) | 11:38 |
| slaine | Hmmm, perhaps I should upgrade then, get the better kernel and KVM etc. | 11:38 |
| kulve | lbt: what debian are you running? | 11:39 |
| lbt | slaine: yeah - the OBS VMs will be 11.4 for sure | 11:39 |
| zumbi | obs 2.2.126 also mostly fine | 11:39 |
| lbt | squeeze/tesing | 11:39 |
| lbt | zumbi: we use Mer's OBS now | 11:39 |
| lbt | it has additional patches which we're pushing upstream | 11:39 |
| kulve | is it about the kernel that makes that fail..? | 11:39 |
| zumbi | lbt: is that your forked github project? | 11:40 |
| lbt | zumbi: yes | 11:40 |
| zumbi | ok, I'll have a look | 11:40 |
| slaine | Ok, I'll kick of an update/reinstall now, head to the gym over lunch and start the process again after lunch. | 11:40 |
| lbt | https://github.com/Merproject/open-build-service | 11:40 |
| lbt | slaine: :) | 11:40 |
| zumbi | I also wonder if anyone is interested on having Debian OBS server packages | 11:40 |
| lbt | zumbi: I wouldn't run them or recommend them | 11:41 |
| lbt | OBS has enough problems - and expecting the devs to support them would be too much | 11:41 |
| zumbi | lbt: I know those might need lots of patching.. but.. | 11:41 |
| lbt | zumbi: yeah - just being frank about it | 11:41 |
| lbt | you know I run debian for everything else :) | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | there might be some merit to obs worker on debian, however | 11:42 |
| * sledges compiling iMX lateste X.Org driver agains Mer! https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=xorg-x11-drv-imx&project=home%3Asledge%3AMer%3AHA%3AiMX&repository=Mer_Core_armv7hl | 11:42 | |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yeah - that's doable | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | for testing on equipmnt | 11:42 |
| zumbi | Stskeeps: already got debian workers | 11:42 |
| lbt | that's supported upstream already iirc | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:42 |
| zumbi | lbt: need to change a little bit initscripts | 11:42 |
| zumbi | but code is running | 11:43 |
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| zumbi | also working on generating build chroot with debootstrap (for DEB) | 11:43 |
| lbt | oh I see - I thought you meant as an idea - didn't realise you'd done it *g* | 11:43 |
| zumbi | current way to put together build environment for debs is quite hackish | 11:44 |
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| zumbi | I should get obs-worker packages for debian in github I guess | 11:44 |
| lbt | *nod* | 11:44 |
| zumbi | are far from perfect.. but work | 11:45 |
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| lbt | I think debootstrap would be saner but didn't look at it back then | 11:45 |
| lbt | "it worked" :) | 11:45 |
| zumbi | what worked? | 11:46 |
| lbt | deb builds | 11:46 |
| lbt | kulve: so I'd like to see what exactly the problem was | 11:46 |
| lbt | could we try a few things when you have a bit | 11:46 |
| zumbi | ah! uhmm.. yes, more or less works, but know with multiarch deps (gettext:any) style, it does not | 11:47 |
| kulve | I have a bit | 11:47 |
| kulve | is it really need to mount the $sdkroot to $sdkroot? | 11:47 |
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| zumbi | also now some things are migrating from /var/run to /run, and some postinst break | 11:47 |
| zumbi | using debian tools is nice, obs devs dont need to maintain the hackish way | 11:48 |
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| lbt | kulve: OK ... so the purpose of that is to permit --make-unbindable | 11:48 |
| lbt | that only works on mountpoints | 11:48 |
| lbt | sdkroot is unlikely to be a mountpoint | 11:48 |
| lbt | do doing a bind mount on a random dir makes it one | 11:49 |
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| lbt | now sdkroot exists in / (obviously | 11:49 |
| lbt | so when we enter an SDK and mount / on parentroot | 11:49 |
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| lbt | we'd also mount /...sdkroot1 inside sdkroot2/parentroot | 11:50 |
| lbt | which is messy | 11:50 |
| lbt | using --make-unbindable prevents this | 11:50 |
| sledges | how can I incorporate the imx kernel source with build.pub.meego.com OBS , so that another package (xorg-x11-drv-imx) can re-use it (it now curses on imx_driver.c:33:25: fatal error: linux/mxcfb.h: No such file or directory) ? | 11:50 |
| lbt | and is the point of it | 11:50 |
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| Stskeepz | sledges: cheat and add a linux/ directory | 11:53 |
| Stskeepz | with mxcfb in it | 11:53 |
| sledges | 8) will do try | 11:54 |
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| lbt | kulve: what's your sdkroot ? | 11:58 |
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| kulve | ~/projects/mer/XXXX/mer-sdk-x86-chroot | 11:58 |
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| kulve | fuse stuff? | 11:59 |
| lbt | and do you invoke using a full path or are you cd'ed into there? | 11:59 |
| lbt | using ./ | 11:59 |
| kulve | ./ | 11:59 |
| kulve | does it matter that in ubuntu my $HOME is already a mount point? | 11:59 |
| lbt | could you cd $HOME and invoke ~/projects/mer/XXXX/mer-sdk-x86-chroot/mer-sdk-chroot <blah> | 12:00 |
| lbt | I hope not but maybe :) | 12:00 |
| lbt | (it really shouldn't) | 12:00 |
| lbt | also ... for debug | 12:00 |
| lbt | maybe add echo $sdkroot on line 118 just after it's set | 12:01 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3495801 | 12:01 |
| lbt | there-ish | 12:02 |
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| lbt | and then lets try some manual things with --make-unbindable to verify it's not that that changed due to an ubuntu kernel variation or some local setup | 12:04 |
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| kulve | same problem from ~ | 12:07 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning Eren | 12:07 |
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| Eren | morning Stskeeps | 12:08 |
| Eren | it's midday here, though | 12:08 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, just UGT :) | 12:09 |
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| Stskeeps | http://thinkmoult.com/ugt.html | 12:09 |
| kulve | lbt: same behaviour under /usr/local/mer-sdk | 12:11 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: what to try out next in my Quest towards Nemo on my secret device? :) | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: get mer-gfx-tests going | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | with glestest | 12:12 |
| lbt | kulve: grumble | 12:13 |
| lbt | and it detects sdkroot fine I guess | 12:13 |
| kulve | yes | 12:13 |
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| lbt | OK ... so lets try some manual bind mounts to replicate what it's doing | 12:14 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: from where should I get the sgx stuff? | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: TI sites? | 12:16 |
| kulve | what, no sgx packaged in mer? :) | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | we don't carry hardware adaptations, too much legal hassle and politics | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: just make sure libEGL.so.1 -> libEGL.so and libGLESv2.so.2 -> libGLESv2.so | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | for SGX type drivers | 12:17 |
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| kulve | and I should try to take them from TI and not from n950 adaptation? | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:18 |
| w00t | sts | 12:19 |
| w00t | er. | 12:19 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: I can't google. Do you happen to have a link to the right TI site..? I've downloaded them numerous times but it seems to be always tricky to find the right place.. | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_sb/targetcontent/gfxsdk/ perhaps | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: btw, regarding 'why not just take n950 adaptation' .. you need to port a lot of DSS2 stuff, the sgx driver in kernel, etc | 12:26 |
| kulve | ok | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | and i don't want to wish that upon anyone | 12:27 |
| kulve | yeah, I don't have time to port anything currently, just to "integrate" :) | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 12:28 |
| kulve | humm, I guess I need to find the TI SGX release matching my kernel.. | 12:28 |
| kimju | so latest drivers are still for 2.6.37? | 12:30 |
| kulve | I think they have release something for 3.x kernels at least for android | 12:31 |
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| kimju | the release notes for latest release in that url seems to say .37 for omap, 3.1.0 for am335x | 12:32 |
| kulve | and which one the beagle-xm is..? | 12:33 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: I think I might need RN_4_03_00_01 but that doesn't support "X11 support(DRI/DRM Xorg driver)" that 4.05.00.03 does. I guess that's a problem? | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | mm, might be | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | isn't there an earlier one? | 12:34 |
| kulve | earlier one..? | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | well, earlier version that works with x11 | 12:35 |
| kulve | RN_4_03_00_02 is the last one tested on 2.6.32 and it doesn't support x11. The very next release do support x11 but only 2.6.35 | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:37 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm not sure about specifics on those kernels, dri2 would be good to have at least | 12:37 |
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| kulve | and the x11 is a must for nemo? It doesn't support wayland yet? Although I'm not really sure what Wayland expects from the OpenGL ES stuff.. | 12:43 |
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| Stskeeps | ah, that's a deep rabbithole to get into.. | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | for nemo it's a must, yeah | 12:44 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/RN_4_03_00_01 says just says it's not validated, not that it's not there | 12:45 |
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| kulve | ah | 12:46 |
| kulve | same for RN_4_03_00_02 | 12:48 |
| kulve | 02 notes say e.g.: "[NEW] Included pvr2d.h and wsegl.h in the release package under include folder of Graphics SDK root installtion(public versions – with public headers: (MIT-x license)). Qt users should use the included wsegl.h and pvr2d.h" | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | qt embedded, that is | 12:49 |
| slaine | Right, 12.1 installed | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | MTF is fairly x11 heavy | 12:50 |
| kulve | right | 12:50 |
| kulve | well, 02 is what we are running with android on that thing, so I guess I'll start with 02 anyway | 12:50 |
| kulve | no, we are running 01 | 12:50 |
| kulve | well, still 02 sounds better | 12:51 |
| kulve | takes ages to download though | 12:51 |
| kulve | lbt: was there some manual mount commands you wanted me to try? | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: yeah.. TI should really learn something about delivery of sw | 12:57 |
| lbt | I'm working on http://pastie.org/3496113 | 12:58 |
| lbt | I think I've reproduced it here | 12:58 |
| kulve | lbt: ok, just let me know when I can test something :) | 12:58 |
| lbt | my /var/tmp/mic/cache was a symlink to /parentroot/var/tmp/mic/cache | 12:58 |
| lbt | which is, of course, nice | 12:58 |
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| lbt | since it allows cache sharing | 12:59 |
| lbt | but it shouldn't be mandatory | 12:59 |
| lbt | try the tests | 12:59 |
| lbt | ignore the 2nd test() definition | 12:59 |
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| lbt | the last one seems to work | 12:59 |
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| lbt | I think the problem is how make-unbindable works | 13:00 |
| kulve | so I cut'n'paste that to a script and run inside the SDK? | 13:00 |
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| lbt | no | 13:00 |
| lbt | run it from the host with everything umounted | 13:00 |
| lbt | just paste into a terminal a few lines at a time | 13:00 |
| lbt | refresh I removed the dupe definition | 13:01 |
| lbt | oh | 13:01 |
| lbt | sdkroot=$HOME/projects/mer/XXXX/mer-sdk-x86-chroot/mer-sdk-chroot/ | 13:01 |
| lbt | too | 13:01 |
| kulve | how can you edit the paste? | 13:01 |
| lbt | click edit? | 13:01 |
| lbt | RHS under the textbox | 13:02 |
| kulve | well that was a small link ;) | 13:02 |
| lbt | useful though :) | 13:02 |
| kulve | yeah | 13:02 |
| lbt | so the good news is that I can now see it - thanks for persevering | 13:02 |
| kulve | np :) | 13:03 |
| lbt | https://lwn.net/Articles/159077/ | 13:03 |
| lbt | http://dirkgerrits.com/wp-content/uploads/mount.pdf too | 13:04 |
| lbt | -> food | 13:05 |
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| kulve | all those commands passed | 13:08 |
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| kulve | blah. You did select a badly that test() name I suppose | 13:10 |
| kulve | -a | 13:12 |
| lbt | mmm yeah | 13:15 |
| lbt | OK - I think I have a solution | 13:17 |
| kulve | well, now I got OK for all tests | 13:18 |
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| lbt | yeah, I think we need to make an intermediate dir to act as a block for mount --rbind then mount --bind $sdk $sdk and then make that a normal --private | 13:20 |
| lbt | I'll get onto it... | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | hello __k | 13:20 |
| __k | hi | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | welcome - so what brings you here? | 13:20 |
| __k | I'm trying to set up the sdk but i can't sudo inside it | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | what error do you get? | 13:21 |
| __k | complains it's not suid root, but it is. looking for clues/help | 13:21 |
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| __k | sudo: must be setuid root | 13:21 |
| lbt | hmm | 13:21 |
| lbt | are you using nfs at all ? | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | __k: is this when sudoing into the sdk, or inside the sdk? | 13:22 |
| __k | no | 13:22 |
| kulve | lbt: askin from me? No NFS | 13:22 |
| __k | Stskeeps: this is inside the sdk | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | __k: ls -l /usr/bin/sudo | 13:23 |
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| __k | -rwsr-xr-x 2 root root 69936 Feb 18 23:00 /usr/bin/sudo | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | __k: that's inside the sdk, i presume | 13:23 |
| __k | yeh | 13:24 |
| lbt | mount nosuid option? | 13:24 |
| lbt | grep suid /proc/mounts | 13:24 |
| __k | yeah =) | 13:24 |
| __k | I have the sdk installed on a removable sd card which my system mounted nosuid =) | 13:25 |
| __k | thank you! | 13:25 |
| * lbt can check for that too :) | 13:25 | |
| lbt | thanks for reporting | 13:25 |
| lbt | __k: we're seeing a problem with mic too so if you hit that I may have a solution | 13:26 |
| vgrade | thats also one which used to affect mic2 builds | 13:26 |
| * lbt really is grabbing food now | 13:26 | |
| __k | as I explore this sdk, hopefully soon I will learn what mic is =) | 13:26 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, now it says /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: cannot find -lz160 even there exists xserver-xorg-video-imx-11.09.01/src/libz160.so | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: probably a -L needed | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | -L. | 13:27 |
| sledges | ok | 13:27 |
| sledges | thanks! | 13:28 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: getting somewhere with cross.. http://pastie.org/3496346 -- first preinstall is the host, second preinstall is the armv7l target, first "installing" is host, second is sb2-enabled armv7l target installation | 13:29 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Attie | 13:30 |
| Attie | hi! | 13:30 |
| Attie | sledges mentioned you were online | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | colleague of sledges, i presume, yeah :) | 13:30 |
| sledges | hey my ip should be hidden :))) | 13:31 |
| sledges | hi Attie | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: it's obviously not working | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:31 |
| sledges | &) | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | Attie: so what brings you here, besides sledges? | 13:32 |
| Attie | how are things? | 13:32 |
| sledges | I think that's only me for now | 13:32 |
| Attie | oh just sledges at the moment i'm afraid :) | 13:32 |
| sledges | Attie's working on IVI, that's how it all spun off, some PRs and connections with other companies | 13:33 |
| sledges | thanks to #mer ! | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 13:33 |
| * Stskeeps looks more into cross building | 13:36 | |
| Eren | happy hacking folks | 13:36 |
| Eren | see you later | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | seeya | 13:36 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, the build worked! how do I get the compiled files out? :) https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=xorg-x11-drv-imx&project=home%3Asledge%3AMer%3AHA%3AiMX&repository=Mer_Core_armv7hl | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: osc getbinaries , or looking on repo.pub.meego.com if you enabled publishing | 13:44 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, I'm afraid my knowledge ends here :( http://repo.pub.meego.com/home%3a/sledge%3a/Mer%3a/HA%3a/iMX/Mer_Core_armv7hl/ is empty, and osc getbinaries want REPOSITORY param, which would be empty as well | 13:48 |
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| Stskeeps | sledges: osc getbinaries Mer_Core_armv7hl armv8el | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | sure you want armv8el btw? | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | are those .so's hardfp? | 13:49 |
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| sledges | .so's are hardfp, but i set armv7hl | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | armv7hl = hardfp | 13:50 |
| sledges | yup (http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_architecture_naming :) | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:51 |
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| sledges | armv7hl=armv8el(OBS) | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | ok, just checking | 13:52 |
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| __k | next: mer wasn't in /etc/sudoers | 13:59 |
| lbt | __k: no, the mer user shouldn't even be there really | 13:59 |
| lbt | but it doesn't hrt that it is | 13:59 |
| __k | lbt: I couldn't sudo until I added him | 14:00 |
| __k | ahh my local uid == mer's uid | 14:01 |
| __k | guess it matters who you are | 14:01 |
| lbt | __k: just as an off-chance - does your normal user have a uid of 500 | 14:01 |
| __k | lbt: yeah =) | 14:01 |
| lbt | yeah - me too | 14:01 |
| lbt | it's a pita - I didn't think it would hit many people | 14:01 |
| lbt | remove the mer user from your /etc/passwd | 14:01 |
| lbt | in the chroot | 14:01 |
| __k | guess on people using the first user on fedora-y systems? | 14:01 |
| __k | ok | 14:02 |
| lbt | I have a 'proper' fix coming but if it's common then I'll do a quick hack too | 14:02 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, do check, I'm learning as you remark, not before ;) | 14:04 |
| kimju | 500 used to be the first user uid for a long time. most of my systems have it still in use (either upgraded in place or passwd copied over) | 14:05 |
| lbt | kimju: yes, I'm 500 | 14:05 |
| lbt | sed -i -d "/^$mer:/d" ${sdkroot}/etc/passwd | 14:05 |
| lbt | as soon as I figure out how I made my filesystem ro | 14:06 |
| lbt | using mount --bind and mount --make-* options ... spooky | 14:06 |
| __k | arright, mic gave me a bind mounting error | 14:06 |
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| lbt | __k: OK - I know that one | 14:07 |
| lbt | I suggest you mkdir -p /var/tmp/mic/cache in the host | 14:07 |
| lbt | then in the SDK : rm -rf /var/tmp/mic/cache; ln -s /parentroot/var/tmp/mic/cache /var/tmp/mic/cache | 14:08 |
| lbt | I'll have a fix RSN | 14:08 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.com/aE6TR2eg | 14:09 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: I'm quite unsure if I should compile the kernel modules from the kernel or from the TI release.. The kernel ones doesn't seem to compile without fixes (if even then). And compiling the modules from the TI release seems to be a build hell | 14:10 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: generally i'd advise you to use the kernel drivers the TI release gives you | 14:11 |
| kulve | the binaries or compile from their sources? | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | either one works, it's always best to compile form source | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | from | 14:11 |
| kulve | well, I try again. This in-kernel thing looks bad | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | GLES enablement is one of the more difficult things to do but benefits are high | 14:12 |
| kulve | well, without them you have nothing to show nowadays. | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 14:13 |
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| sledges | how on OBS to set binaries as publishable ? | 14:13 |
| Stskeeps | in 'repositories' tab | 14:14 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: | 14:15 |
| kulve | Graphics_SDK_4_03_00_02/GFX_Linux_KM$ make BUILD=debug all | 14:15 |
| kulve | grep: /opt/oe/stuff/build/tmp/work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-omap-2.6.29-r44/git//Makefile: No such file or directory | 14:15 |
| kulve | so nice looking hardcodings all over the place.. | 14:15 |
| sledges | but the compile yield (binaries) still do not appear in the repo.. | 14:15 |
| kulve | (I've never had ångström here, nor 2.6.29 kernel) | 14:16 |
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| kulve | I have to admin I run that in a wrong place but still | 14:16 |
| kulve | admit | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | isn't there a KERNEL_DIR thing? | 14:17 |
| kulve | yeah, I got those now properly set and now I'm wondering this: | 14:17 |
| kulve | cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-m64" | 14:17 |
| kulve | and -mno-red-zone, -mcmodel=kernel, -maccumulate-outgoing-args | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | cflags in environment? | 14:18 |
| kulve | nope | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | wtf | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | ARCH=arm maybe | 14:19 |
| kulve | those are not mentioned anywhere in the TI release so I guess they come from the kernel. So maybe the wrong arch then | 14:20 |
| kulve | seems to be. Again following the INSTALL notes too blindly :) | 14:20 |
| kulve | cc1: warnings being treated as errors | 14:21 |
| kulve | that's never good with TI code ;) | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | even if they're very ubuntu fixated, linaro is a godsend in wrapping binaries -properly- | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | and sources | 14:21 |
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| lbt | __k: kulve.... I'm trying to fix the mount issue by adding a requirement that there's a directory called "sdks" which must contain your SDK rootfs | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: show me your OBS project | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | (url on web interface) | 14:22 |
| kulve | lbt: doesn't sound that good but I guess it's a better than non-working thing :) | 14:23 |
| sledges | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=xorg-x11-drv-imx&project=home%3Asledge%3AMer%3AHA%3AiMX | 14:23 |
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| sledges | from build log it looks like it simply does not generate .rpm files | 14:23 |
| sledges | everything else passes | 14:23 |
| lbt | kulve: yeah - it's because we need both --make-unbindable and then the / of the sdk must be bindable | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: as a start your rpm didn't finish building | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /usr/include/X11/extensions/imx_ext.h /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/imx_drv.so | 14:24 |
| slaine | right, back from lunch | 14:24 |
| sledges | after this line it should create RPMs: Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/xorg-x11-drv-imx-11.09.01-14.1.arm | 14:24 |
| sledges | but then it just complaints and gives up | 14:24 |
| kulve | lbt: I guess you should then include a sanity check that the SDK actually is in "sdks" directory | 14:24 |
| lbt | writing it right now | 14:24 |
| sledges | i forked it from https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=xorg-x11-drv-omapfb&project=home%3Asmoku%3AMer%3AHA | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: because you didn't include those two files to packaging in %files section | 14:24 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: pvrsrvkm.ko \o/ | 14:25 |
| lbt | https://github.com/lbt/sdk-kickstarter-configs | 14:25 |
| sledges | correct | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: i first believe it when you insmod/modprobe it succesfully | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 14:25 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, specify script did not :) and I took it for granted | 14:25 |
| slaine | zumbi: did you get an internal obs up and running on 12.1 following http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_Setup ? | 14:25 |
| sledges | thank you Stskeeps ! | 14:25 |
| kulve | I just had to read the install notes a bit more carefully, remove the Werror and set the proper variables in the right place | 14:25 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: ok, just a sec ;) | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: it doesn't do -everything- for you :> | 14:25 |
| sledges | :)) | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | (yet..) | 14:25 |
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| sledges | specify: "I would do anything for build, but I won't do *that*" :)) | 14:28 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: it did load pvrsrvkm but I guess I need the omaplfb.ko too and I don't know where that is | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: should be similar place | 14:30 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: there's only pvrsrvkm.ko and bc_example.ko | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | maybe it's merged in latest | 14:32 |
| kulve | there are omap3430 and omap3630 and I'm building the latter one and it looks like the omaplfb stuff is found only for the 3430 | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:33 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, great success! thanks again | 14:35 |
| slaine | right, lbt, 12.1 installed, do I follow the OBS Setup guide as is, or should I replace repo urls from 11.4 to 12.1 ? | 14:36 |
| lbt | let me check | 14:37 |
| lbt | so 12.1 on the phost | 14:37 |
| lbt | you now need to make 3 VMs running 11.4 | 14:37 |
| lbt | we'll use 1 for the fe/api | 14:37 |
| lbt | 1 for the scheduler/srcserver/reposerver etc | 14:38 |
| lbt | and 1 as a worker | 14:38 |
| lbt | eventually you'll deploy proper workers | 14:38 |
| slaine | k | 14:38 |
| lbt | you may also eventually deploy a proper publisher and possibly a source server (depending on load) | 14:38 |
| zumbi | slaine: I started from unstable appliance | 14:39 |
| lbt | for now this will get you familiar with a production style setup rather than a black box | 14:39 |
| slaine | nod | 14:39 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: how to install tar on the device without network? I copied tar-1.17-1.5.Mer.armv7l.rpm there, but http://pastie.org/3496848 | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: that's on device? | 14:40 |
| kulve | yes | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | wth :P | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | rpm --eval '%{arch}' | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | err | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | rpm --eval '%{_arch}' | 14:41 |
| kulve | arm | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | only? | 14:41 |
| kulve | yes | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | sec.. | 14:42 |
| kulve | I should be at home already but I just can stop until I've finished this SGX stuff :) | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | rpm --eval '%{_target_cpu}' | 14:42 |
| kulve | armv7l | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -qa | grep meego-rpm-config | 14:43 |
| slaine | lbt, any recommended urls to follow ? | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, just cheat: rpm --ignorearch -i | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | and report a bug this happened | 14:43 |
| lbt | slaine: to setup a kvm guest? | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | i've never seen that before | 14:43 |
| kulve | that rpm-qa said nothing | 14:43 |
| kulve | but now cheating sounds perferct :) | 14:43 |
| slaine | No, to setup the fe/api stuff | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: attach your .ks if possible | 14:43 |
| slaine | or rather, I guess, recommendations for disk allocations is what I'm looking for | 14:44 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: I'm pretty sure if was the unmodified qmlviewer.ks | 14:44 |
| slaine | fe/api should be XXGB, scheduler should be XXGB etc. etc. | 14:44 |
| lbt | slaine: 6G / 10G /var 2G swap 100G /data | 14:45 |
| slaine | for each vm ? | 14:46 |
| lbt | yes | 14:46 |
| slaine | cool, thanks | 14:46 |
| lbt | workers don't need /data | 14:46 |
| slaine | and use 11.4 for for the vas iirc | 14:46 |
| lbt | yes | 14:46 |
| slaine | off i go | 14:46 |
| lbt | :) | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: data.. /srv instead maybe? | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | judging by our symlink experiences? | 14:47 |
| lbt | I wondered that | 14:47 |
| lbt | yeah - sure, make it 100G /srv ..... I need a guinea pig :) | 14:47 |
| slaine | I shall I be a guienea pig ? | 14:47 |
| slaine | or however you spell it | 14:47 |
| lbt | hehe | 14:48 |
| slaine | lol | 14:48 |
| slaine | right, bbiab | 14:48 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: the kernel module loaded but the initialisation failed: | 14:49 |
| kulve | PVR_K: (FAIL) SGXInit: Mismatch in client-side and KM driver build options; extra options present in client-side driver: (0x8000). Please check sgx_options.h | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: probably debug vs not | 14:50 |
| lbt | kulve: can you try the mer-sdk-chroot from here https://github.com/lbt/sdk-kickstarter-configs | 14:50 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: good point | 14:50 |
| * lbt watches the day run off | 14:50 | |
| lbt | 3pm already... | 14:51 |
| kulve | 16:51 | 14:51 |
| lbt | :) | 14:51 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: actually I think I did build debug builds of both.. | 14:52 |
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| kulve | lbt: mer-sdk-chroot from https://github.com/lbt/sdk-kickstarter-configs seems to work. First complained about the sdks and suggester properly about the mv. And then the mic completed succesfully inside the SDK | 15:02 |
| * sledges got xorg-drv-imx driver running on imx53 qsb on top of mer and KDE PA2 ! | 15:05 | |
| Stskeeps | slaine: GLES working yet? | 15:05 |
| sledges | still no libGLES support, working on it next. | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | err | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | get 'mer-gfx-tests' | 15:05 |
| sledges | are there any benchmarks ? | 15:05 |
| sledges | lol | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | and test with glestest | 15:05 |
| slaine | :) | 15:06 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, we are reading each other minds :) | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | when that works, you're ok | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:06 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, im using qmlviewer -opengl and it segfaults | 15:06 |
| sledges | :) | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | that's cos you're using meta, probably | 15:06 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, what benchmarks i could use to test 2D accel (so i could compare fbdev vs imx first) | 15:10 |
| sledges | ? | 15:10 |
| timoph | http://nullr0ute.com/2012/03/an-alpha-arm-full-of-beefy-miracle-aka-fedora-17-on-arm-alpha-1/ | 15:15 |
| slaine | timoph: yeah spotted that, exciting stuff | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: not sure | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: you'd most likely want imx no matter what | 15:19 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: what hardware are you testing the MIPS builds on ? | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: atm? qemu | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | MIPS32 should work though | 15:20 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: I did a clean install of kernel, TI kernel modules and TI ogles but still it complains about the mismatch. But that's a task for tomorrow | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 15:21 |
| slaine | Wonder would that MIPS android tablet be any good. | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | think rayman is getting one too | 15:21 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: http://tuomas.kulve.fi/tmp/sgx-pvr-init-error.txt | 15:22 |
| kulve | that's the output, if you are interested | 15:22 |
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| slaine | What I suspected would happen has happened. My managers have expressed an interest in pursuing lower cost, non-x86 hardware | 15:23 |
| slaine | I'm hoping that means more time for me to work with mer | 15:23 |
| lbt | __k: ping | 15:24 |
| __k | lbt:: pong | 15:24 |
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| lbt | kulve: great - thanks for the feedback | 15:24 |
| kulve | lbt: np. I want to learn this Mer thing :) | 15:25 |
| timoph | damn. were supposed to have the sdk meet today or next thu? | 15:25 |
| lbt | __k: could you have a try with a fixed mer-sdk-chroot script | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: i'm not going to be able to participate at least | 15:25 |
| timoph | if today: I forgot | 15:25 |
| lbt | yeah today with Sage_ | 15:25 |
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| timoph | :/ | 15:25 |
| lbt | but... it's an active WIP anyhow | 15:25 |
| lbt | so no real worries | 15:25 |
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| timoph | yeah. let's have it next week | 15:26 |
| lbt | __k: https://github.com/lbt/sdk-kickstarter-configs | 15:26 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: OK | 15:26 |
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| timoph | I'll start bugging you about possible times a bit later | 15:26 |
| lbt | if it works for you __k then I'll push it to OBS | 15:26 |
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| Sage_ | ugh, totally forgot | 15:27 |
| Sage_ | what time it was supposed to be? | 15:27 |
| lbt | Sage_: not alone - we all did | 15:27 |
| kulve | google calendar! | 15:27 |
| kulve | you can ever share a Mer one ;) | 15:27 |
| lbt | kulve: mmm ... shared CALDAV :) | 15:27 |
| kulve | s,ever,even, | 15:27 |
| timoph | Sage_: no time was announced since I forgot :) | 15:28 |
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| Sage_ | timoph: hehe. worldwide blackout ;) | 15:30 |
| timoph | :) | 15:31 |
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| Stskeeps | let's just take it next week then | 15:31 |
| joroi | kulve: isn't that flag SUPPORT_ACTIVE_POWER_MANAGEMENT, check sgx_options.h for (0x1 << 15) == 0x8000, you probably need either compile kernel or user space with/without that | 15:31 |
| kulve | joroi: thanks for the tip. I will try it first thing in the morning | 15:33 |
| kulve | is there a way to check from the device if it's on or off? | 15:33 |
| kulve | ah, now I understand that | 15:34 |
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| joroi | kulve: yup, just compile time flag. I would probably try to build kernel module with that defined | 15:41 |
| kulve | I think it should be enabled by default. I tried to disable it but nothing changed. OTOH, IIRC not even the md5sum of the kernel module changed, so maybe I missed something.. | 15:42 |
| kulve | the user space is binary only so I can't change that | 15:43 |
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| kulve | joroi: do you happen know how to check that from the user-space side in the TI release tree? | 15:46 |
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| joroi | no idea, but that error message seems to indicate it's defined in user space... | 15:47 |
| bigbluehat | Stskeeps: so what were you need/wanting from me yesterday? (re:Photoshop) | 15:47 |
| kulve | yes, so it actually does. | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | https://netst.org/pub/linux/ARM/OMAP/TI/Graphics_SDK_4_03_00_02/GFX_Linux_KM/Makefile | 15:47 |
| joroi | but sometimes those makefiles can be quite complicated, need to make sure changes are effective when building the kernel module | 15:48 |
| kulve | LDM_PLATFORM ?= 1 | 15:48 |
| kulve | that is enabled (unless disabled already somewhere). And if that's enabled, then the SUPPORT_ACTIVE_POWER_MANAGEMENT, is enabled as well | 15:48 |
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| kulve | https://netst.org/pub/linux/ARM/OMAP/TI/Graphics_SDK_4_03_00_02/GFX_Linux_KM/eurasiacon/build/linux/omap3630_linux/makefile.shared_conf | 15:50 |
| kulve | and that has a completely different setup.. | 15:50 |
| kulve | although it's still ?= | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | at least check they're aligned in both | 15:51 |
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| kulve | \o/ | 15:57 |
| kulve | joroi: thanks a bunch! :) | 15:57 |
| kulve | although now I face a new problem: Module omaplfb failed to load. Retrying. | 15:58 |
| kulve | if that is a problem on 3630 | 15:58 |
| kulve | Loaded PowerVR consumer services. | 15:58 |
| kulve | (so I did enable the POWER stuff in the omap3630_linux/makefile.shared_conf and I guess that was the trick) | 16:02 |
| kulve | but now I really leave to home and continue tomorrow with the omaplfb or some mer gfx stuff | 16:02 |
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| chouchoune | hello ! | 16:41 |
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| chouchoune | did anyone use Wayland on top of Mer ? | 16:42 |
| sroedal | chouchoune: the challenge is driver support | 16:43 |
| chouchoune | sroedal: yes, I know, but my chance is that I can choose the platform we'll run it ;) | 16:44 |
| sroedal | apart from that it should be fairly simple | 16:45 |
| chouchoune | yes, I saw a wayland repo on the Mer git, so that's why I asked if someone had experience with Waylabnd on Mer | 16:45 |
| chouchoune | (though the wayland version is outdated) | 16:46 |
| sroedal | chouchoune: Stskeeps has done some playing with wayland on N9 and N900 I believe | 16:46 |
| sroedal | chouchoune: I've done a lot of work on Qt for Wayland | 16:47 |
| chouchoune | sroedal: is there a reference that points to your work ? | 16:47 |
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| chouchoune | I'm interested in that | 16:47 |
| sroedal | chouchoune: qt5's qtwayland repo :) | 16:48 |
| chouchoune | haha, ok, stupid question | 16:48 |
| sroedal | contains the wayland platform plugin, and a library to make it convenient to make compositors | 16:48 |
| sroedal | as well as some trivial sample compositors | 16:48 |
| chouchoune | yes, I saw that already | 16:48 |
| sroedal | chouchoune: http://vignatti.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/qt-on-wayland-howto/ | 16:49 |
| sroedal | chouchoune: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/qt5.html | 16:49 |
| sroedal | chouchoune: and here's an older blog post about it: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/18/multi-process-lighthouse/ | 16:50 |
| chouchoune | didn't see the first link, thanks | 16:50 |
| sroedal | I think the first and the second are pretty much the same | 16:51 |
| sroedal | maybe the second is more recent | 16:51 |
| chouchoune | ok | 16:51 |
| chouchoune | thanks | 16:52 |
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| timoph | ah. my old nemesis - hildon application manager | 17:26 |
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| afiestas_droid | Hey, anybody knows how to flash samsung galaxy 2 with mer / active? | 20:03 |
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| Sage__ | hmmp | 20:42 |
| Sage__ | [8/109] installing u-boot-omap4panda-2011.06-2.2.Mer | 20:42 |
| Sage__ | error: unpacking of archive failed on file /boot/boot.scr;4f414630: cpio: open failed - Permission denied | 20:42 |
| Sage__ | error: u-boot-omap4panda-2011.06-2.2.Mer.armv7l: install failed | 20:42 |
| Sage__ | exit ... | 20:42 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps, lbt: something wrong with the obs-sb2 installation? | 20:42 |
| lbt | mmm | 20:42 |
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| lbt | where is this? | 20:43 |
| Sage__ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=kernel-adaptation-pandaboard&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3APandaBoard&repository=Mer_Core-next_armv7l | 20:43 |
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| Sage__ | I guess no other package tried to install anything to /boot during build? | 20:44 |
| lbt | shouldn't be an issue | 20:45 |
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| lbt | I wonder if sb2 has something special about /boot | 20:46 |
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| Sage__ | [3/110] installing kernel-adaptation-pandaboard-3.1.5-3.1.Mer | 20:47 |
| Sage__ | error: unpacking of archive failed on file /boot/System.map-3.1.5;4f414a2b: cpio: mkdir failed - Permission denied | 20:47 |
| Sage__ | error: kernel-adaptation-pandaboard-3.1.5-3.1.Mer.armv7l: install failed | 20:47 |
| Sage__ | exit ... | 20:47 |
| Sage__ | similar thing with other package that tries to install build requirements to boot | 20:47 |
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| * Sage__ is having problems getting debugsymbols from glibc in gdb | 21:08 | |
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| Stskeeps | Sage__: might be u+rx-w permission problems | 21:58 |
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| Sage__ | oh, those can have effect? | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | yes, sadly with sb2 | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | i'll discuss this tomorrow | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | it's an ongoing discussion on how much to fake root | 22:02 |
| Sage__ | yes, talk to you later today ;) | 22:02 |
| Sage__ | 00:03 already here ;) | 22:03 |
| * Sage__ goes to bed. | 22:03 | |
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