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| sonach | Stskeeps: I have a few problems about MDS. | 01:50 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: (1) after I do "cd release-tools; make", I confirm that download is success. but I can not see any source code(.c, .cpp files) or any binaries(.Mer.rpm files). | 01:51 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: (2) after I do "python tools/fakeobs.py 8001 &" in my local server(with IP 192.168.129.140). I can not access "http://192.168.129.140:8001" from my desktop(with IP 192.168.129.16). | 01:52 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: the error(Error Code 404) for accessing "http://192.168.129.140:8001" is http://pastie.org/3398545. | 01:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.wirelessmodemapi.com | 02:02 |
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| sonach_ | Stskeeps: Maybe no "git clone" was executed for source code and binaries? I only see "git clone http://review.merproject.org/p/mer/project-core obs-projects/Core". See http://pastie.org/3399127 for detail. | 04:33 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach_: just woke up, will look in 15 minutes | 06:00 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: morning | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | morn ZiQiangHuan | 06:03 |
| araujo | morning Stskeeps | 06:05 |
| timoph | morning * | 06:06 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok, thanks for your time:) | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: what URL did you follow for MDS instructions again? | 06:11 |
| sonach | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mer_Delivery_System | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | ah, so, ok, try curl http://192.168.129.140:8001/public/source/Core:i586 | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | does this return XML? | 06:13 |
| sonach | returns nothing, | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | hang on, might just be sleepy :) | 06:15 |
| sonach | take a coffee:) | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | can you tell me what error comes from the python tools/fakeobs.py 8001 process? | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | it should print a log | 06:15 |
| sonach | where is the log? | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | it should be in the terminal | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | ie, printing it as you access fakeobs server | 06:17 |
| sonach | maybe nothing. I try this again, | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | check that it's running with ps aux | 06:18 |
| sonach | this time it reports error: http://pastie.org/3399443 | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so it's running | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | try find it in ps aux and kill -9 it | 06:19 |
| sonach | yes, | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | then python fakeobs.py 8001 | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | without & | 06:19 |
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| sonach | I did "python fakeobs.py 8001" , nothing prints out,m | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | then open another terminal and curl http://192.168.129.140:8001/public/source/Core:i586 | 06:21 |
| sonach | error: http://pastie.org/3399457 | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that helps | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | kill fakeobs | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | then cd .. | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | then python tools/fakeobs.py 8001 | 06:24 |
| sonach | ...i see, | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it matters what directory it's in :) | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | we're sadly not done after this to be able to build against it, but at least we can test basics work | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | now test http://192.168.129.140:8001/public/source/Core:i586 | 06:26 |
| sonach | it returns XML | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | good :) | 06:26 |
| sonach | so it is ready to build something against the fakeobs? | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | no, sadly not, the wiki test is wrong, the .rpms are first there when run 'make update' | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | test=text | 06:27 |
| sonach | so, i should run "make update"? | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | if you're wondering about the source code, if you have git installed, you can do for example, git clone packages-git/mer-core/bash bash-checkout | 06:28 |
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| Stskeeps | then in bash-checkout/ you have the tar.gz and .spec packaging | 06:28 |
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| sonach | but "bash" directory is already there: | 06:30 |
| sonach | linux-ubai:/home/tvos/Mer/mer-release-tools/release-tools/packages-git/mer-core/bash # ls | 06:30 |
| sonach | HEAD branches config description hooks info objects packed-refs refs | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | that's a git repository | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | so you have to check it out | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | MDS uses the git repositories to give you full packages and history of them too | 06:30 |
| sonach | hmm, I have to check out every package by hand? | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | only if you want to look at them, in your OBS eventually you can also check them out directly within OBS | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | just answering since you asked where .c and .tar.gz is | 06:31 |
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| Stskeeps | and they're inside those git repositories | 06:32 |
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| sonach | If I want to check out several source packages, it there any convinient way to do this? | 06:32 |
| Stskeeps | it will be more convinient when we have your OBS connected to fakeobs | 06:33 |
| sonach | Or how to understande "in your OBS eventually you can also check them out directly within OBS"? | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | then you can just osc checkout Mer.MDS:Core:i586 packagename | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | for example | 06:33 |
| sonach | ah, using osc? | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | for example | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | but anyway, let's first get ability to build against mer working before we dive into deeper details, as you can see there is a lot of capability and opportunity :) | 06:35 |
| sonach | oh, the source codes are there, if I do checkout I can see it. right? | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | MDS delivers binaries and source codes to your OBS | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | some things are a little difficult to understand at first but they're there in order for us to make it easier to accomplish some bigger things in the future | 06:36 |
| sonach | ah, i see | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | which makes life easier for typical things a vendor needs to do | 06:36 |
| sonach | so, Now I can build my source code against my MDS, is that right? | 06:37 |
| sonach | I will test qtmediahub first:) | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | you need to wait for make update to finish first :) | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | and i'm not sure if you did 'Add the MDS project as a remote link' yet | 06:38 |
| sonach | not yet, | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:39 |
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| sonach | so, first I should make update, second "add the mds project as a remote link', after that, do osc stuff for building, is that right? | 06:41 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:41 |
| Stskeeps | with some tests along the way, such as checking out a package from mds | 06:41 |
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| sonach | is "cd obs-projects/Core; git pull" in Makefile downloads rpm binaries? | 06:42 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: but when doing "make", "git clone $(GIT_URL) obs-projects/Core" was already done. why should do "git pull"? | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: to pick up new changes from mer | 06:44 |
| sonach | ah, you add something into MDS these days? | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | yes, in fact there's a small problem regarding that but we'll get to that later | 06:44 |
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| sonach | it doesn't matter:) | 06:45 |
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| Stskeeps | you might have to, after 'make update' to go into obs-project/Core and do 'git checkout db08d70258b5a53689fcee3d3deb94926015ff26' | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | as to get the right version of core | 06:46 |
| sonach | OK, | 06:48 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: can I edit the wiki page to add some comments? | 06:49 |
| sonach | Or lbt will update the wiki page later? | 06:50 |
| Stskeeps | yes, go ahead | 06:50 |
| sonach | cool:) | 06:50 |
| Stskeeps | if you see anything that's wrong on a wiki, it's okay to edit :) | 06:51 |
| Stskeeps | it's a collaborative document | 06:51 |
| sonach | i see:) | 06:51 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Now, when doing osc stuff, I can use my Ubuntu desktop or Mer's platform SDK. which will you recommend? | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i would recommend mer's platform sdk osc as i know it's updated always to match with mer things | 08:24 |
| sonach | since I have installed it, how to update then? | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | zypper ref, zypper up | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | there's no changes to it at the moment though | 08:26 |
| sonach | ok. and If a server is used for development. several users, for example,user1,user2 and user3 are using platform SDK seperately(with seperate mer-sdk directory). Is there any problem? | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: shouldn't be | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: ping | 08:28 |
| sonach | ok | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: well, except that all need root access too, but .. | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: could you make Mer:OBS:Testing 'build' be the one in :Devel? | 08:29 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes, this is the point, | 08:29 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: all users need root access, which means it is NOT a suitable way, isn't it? | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | that is true, yes | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | but you also need root to run 'mic' | 08:30 |
| sonach | the most suitable way is, every developer has his own development machine or VM to do all the stuff, | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:31 |
| sonach | OK. I will following that way:) | 08:31 |
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| Stskeeps | and instead maybe instead use the bigger server for obs build | 08:31 |
| sonach | Yes, I am planing to appoint sepecial server, to do OBS build stuff only | 08:32 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: with pcre we need to be quite carefull and we need couple of prereleases and update tests with that one. | 09:19 |
| Sage_ | I'm still not entirely sure if that packaging actually works as wanted or not. | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not merging it before next aanyway | 09:21 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: ok, so we have to update merproject gits, our version has broken hostarch handling | 09:41 |
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| slaine | Is the upcoming ARM build of Ubuntu hardfp, does anyone know ? | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: they're working on one but i think they slipped for next ubuntu | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | err | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | 'lo ericlr :) | 09:46 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: k, wondered, seeing as it's an LTS release and Linaro are pushing hardfp iirc. | 09:47 |
| ericlr | Hi Stskeeps :) | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: :nod: | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: it's a common effort to push to go to hardfp, finally | 09:47 |
| slaine | Nice to see Fedora on track for ARM as a primary target for F17 | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: that hurts me a bit though, given that we were seemingily about a year faster than bigger distros in meego | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | sometimes you can innovate too fast | 09:48 |
| slaine | Bleeding edge | 09:48 |
| slaine | proves how small projects can be hard hitting and far reaching with impressive turn around. | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | we have less baggage to throw around | 09:49 |
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| Bostik | phew, just got qt5-declarative to build and package itself nicely again | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 09:58 |
| Bostik | still broken for ARM, due to jsbackend build b0rking due to float-abi mismatches | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | there's a patch for that on qtonpi list i think | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | at some point we should probably sync with the packaging that qtonpi will have | 09:58 |
| Bostik | but at least this is now getting forward again | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | i think it really helps they're in feature freeze | 09:59 |
| Bostik | yeah, that certainly might help | 10:00 |
| Bostik | v8 in particular has been passed around from module to module like a drunk cheerleader on spring break | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: btw, since you deal with architecture, did you see my magic build? | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/magic.txt | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | especially the "installing..." part | 10:02 |
| Bostik | not until now, goes off to read | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | you might wonder where gcc is, or make, etc - it's basically a pretty empty target i'm building a .spec file transparently against | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | with no modifications to .spec or voodoo rpm config | 10:05 |
| Bostik | aaaahhh, this must be the thing: | 10:06 |
| Bostik | Will build with SB2, flags: --toolchain /opt/cross/bin/armv7l-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc --qemu /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic --mappingmethod C --defaultmode obs-rpm-build+pp | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, for instance :) | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | still, quite nice that i now can make any sort of core with any sort of libc in obs | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | and core doesn't have to be self-hosting | 10:08 |
| lbt | morning | 10:11 |
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| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 10:12 |
| ericlr | hi lbt :) | 10:14 |
| lbt | hey ericlr :) | 10:14 |
| smoku | http://www.auraslate.com/ that's interesting | 10:23 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 10:24 | |
| Stskeeps | is that a zenithink too or? | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | uh.. | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.auraslate.com/page2.html | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | see the second part | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | so no source code by standard unless you buy development kit | 10:26 |
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| * Stskeeps stabs git | 10:27 | |
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| lbt | wassup | 10:28 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: long story short the open-build-service version we have in Merproject didn't have a fix for the new Hostarch: functionality, so arm packages refused to schedule | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so i'm rebasing | 10:30 |
| lbt | OK | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | i git fetch upstream, git rebase upstream/master, solve conflicts, git add them, git rebase --continue, then try to git push origin master | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | and get To git@github.com:stskeeps/obs-build.git ! [rejected] master -> master (non-fast-forward) | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | error: failed to push some refs to 'git@github.com:stskeeps/obs-build.git' | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | To prevent you from losing history, non-fast-forward updates were rejected | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | Merge the remote changes (e.g. 'git pull') before pushing again. See the | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | 'Note about fast-forwards' section of 'git push --help' for details. | 10:32 |
| lbt | --force | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | this is in my own branch for pulling into obs itself, not merproject fwiw | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:33 |
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| lbt | (on the push) | 10:33 |
| lbt | rebases are bad ... but they are no worse than keeping modified patches and a tarball | 10:34 |
| lbt | in addition if we leave a tag/ref pointing to the old sha1 then it's not actually lost | 10:34 |
| lbt | and that mimics the retention of old patchsets | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | magic, got it | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:35 |
| lbt | hehe | 10:35 |
| lbt | mds is up - left it syncing at bedtime | 10:35 |
| lbt | so is cwrk | 10:35 |
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| lbt | I wonder if I should push IT commit messages to this chan | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | no, seperate | 10:36 |
| lbt | OK - just thinking transparenc | 10:37 |
| lbt | y | 10:37 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: this is "source code disk" as a hardcopy | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: seperate channel fine, but not in main channel | 10:38 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: but I can't find any info what exact soc is in that thing | 10:38 |
| lbt | I know, I know, use the tradesmens entrance.... :D | 10:39 |
| lbt | I like the overview on http://www.auraslate.com/page3.html | 10:39 |
| * lbt grins at the blog | 10:40 | |
| lbt | blogspot :) | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: okay, so, now i'm in merproject and would like to move on to upstream and merge stskeeps's branch.. | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: stskeeps, upstream is remote's | 10:42 |
| X-Fade | lol: | 10:44 |
| X-Fade | Battery Lithium Ion 6000 mAh up to 5 ~ 6 hours of use | 10:44 |
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| X-Fade | eh? :D | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | 5-6 on 6000 mAH? | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | dear god | 10:45 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: was grabbing coffee | 10:45 |
| X-Fade | That must be hot.. And that on a 800Mhhz A9 :) | 10:45 |
| lbt | hey X-Fade | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: no worries | 10:45 |
| lbt | back now... | 10:46 |
| X-Fade | hi lbt | 10:46 |
| X-Fade | Their tech specs are funny: | 10:46 |
| X-Fade | Aspect Ratio is at 4 by 3, and not the ugly 16 by 9 widescreen | 10:46 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: you're on merproject branch? | 10:47 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: carsten@monster:~/merproject/obs-build$ git pull origin master | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | From github.com:Merproject/obs-build * branch master -> FETCH_HEAD | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | Already up-to-date. | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | origin = merproject github | 10:48 |
| lbt | nb merge is evil | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | well it should be possible, i would guess | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | as git is supposed to be about merging from multiple sources? | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | so, what do i do? | 10:51 |
| lbt | looking | 10:51 |
| lbt | just because it can merge doesn't mean it's a good idea | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | well, end result is that we have a common collection of our patches, phaeron's patches, my patches, upstream | 10:53 |
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| lbt | is "upstream" a branch? | 10:55 |
| lbt | or a remote name? | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | remote name | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | so is stskeeps | 10:56 |
| lbt | so you want to merge stskeeps/master with upstream/master | 10:56 |
| lbt | and push to merproject/master | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | stskeeps/master was rebased on top of upstream/master in his git repo | 10:57 |
| lbt | in local repo | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | in his github repo | 10:57 |
| lbt | his? | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | yes, let's not mix me and my assets | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:57 |
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| lbt | stskeeps/master was rebased on top of upstream/master in another repo? | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:58 |
| lbt | and we care because? | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know, it seems relevant | 10:58 |
| lbt | OK | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | another repo is 'stskeeps', fwiw | 10:58 |
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| lbt | I'm sorry - it's too mixed up to keep a sane picture | 10:59 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 10:59 |
| lbt | give me some urls | 10:59 |
| lbt | and I'll replicate | 10:59 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3400568 | 11:00 |
| lbt | is stskeeps up to date on remote ? | 11:01 |
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| Stskeeps | git fetch stskeeps was done, yes | 11:01 |
| lbt | renaming my remotes to match | 11:02 |
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| niqt | meeting is at 12 utc ? | 11:03 |
| lbt | yes | 11:03 |
| niqt | thnaks | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Mer advisory board meeting at in 55 minutes in #mer-meeting , agenda at http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00250.html | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: adding to the fun, there was a merge conflict when rebasing in stskeeps git repo | 11:08 |
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| lbt | *nod* ... just cleaning up locally | 11:09 |
| lbt | mmm | 11:09 |
| lbt | upstream/master - d20f5cc78 ? | 11:10 |
| lbt | seems very old | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | we're on obs-build, right | 11:11 |
| lbt | ah - they renamed it | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | commit 27b904da6fe1c81bec7fbd78e3d85c98372bcfdb | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | Author: Martin Vidner <mvidner@suse.cz> | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | Date: Fri Feb 17 02:04:40 2012 +0100 | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | Added progress counters to init_buildsystem. | 11:11 |
| lbt | yeah, my local git had an old remote with the same name | 11:13 |
| lbt | OK - looking at this stskeeps/master is nicely rebased on upstream/master | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | right | 11:15 |
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| lbt | so git checkout -b stskeeps_master --track stskeeps/master ; git push --force origin stskeeps_master:master | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | but that'll wipe out existing changes in merproject, won't it? | 11:18 |
| lbt | call it origin or merproject, not both | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | ok, in origin | 11:18 |
| lbt | git remote rename origin merproject | 11:18 |
| lbt | (please) | 11:18 |
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| Stskeeps | done | 11:19 |
| lbt | yes it will | 11:19 |
| lbt | if you want you can tag merproject/master now | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | that's not a good thing? | 11:19 |
| lbt | that tag will prevent gc | 11:19 |
| lbt | it's a thing that people need to be aware of | 11:20 |
| lbt | what it does is allow us to keep up with upstream | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | can we wait with the push until we have the other non-stskeeps changes too? | 11:21 |
| lbt | so... serious Q... why did you rebase onto upstream? | 11:21 |
| lbt | it makes sense to me | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | because i'm a developer who's supposed to upstream this into mainline obs | 11:21 |
| lbt | OK ... so is this our master branch or our "for upstream" branch? | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | this is our master branch, not 'for upstream' | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | but we need upstream changes because upstream broke something (the hostarch thing) | 11:22 |
| lbt | what is the policy for our master branch? | 11:22 |
| lbt | does it track upstream via rebase? | 11:22 |
| lbt | in order to be ready for merge at any time? | 11:23 |
| lbt | (by upstream) | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | well, i guess motivation is to keep delta close to zero, but we may need things for mer deployments earlier than upstream | 11:23 |
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| lbt | yeah - so I'd say "yes, that's our policy" | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | delta to upstream, that is | 11:23 |
| lbt | so this all looks reasonable to me | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | and allow the individual contributors (phaeron, me, scriptripper) to have own repos that can be used to be pulled into mainline, rebasing/tracking upstream | 11:24 |
| lbt | what I'm not sure of is if there are better branch names/merge/rebase approaches | 11:24 |
| lbt | *nod* | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | where we in merproject pull in those 'idea/fixes/features' repos and make deployments | 11:25 |
| lbt | yes | 11:26 |
| lbt | thinking about other approaches that may work... | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | so, how do we move merproject/ to rebase on top of upstream while not having to repeat stskeeps's merge conflict work? | 11:26 |
| lbt | looking at it now I see c89c84 as merproject/master | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | i concur | 11:27 |
| lbt | the 2 patches were rebased with tweaks to upstream | 11:28 |
| lbt | so force push to merproject will lose nothing and put tweaks to merproject | 11:28 |
| lbt | the 'risk' | 11:28 |
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| lbt | is that someone pushes to merproject/master and then you force push | 11:29 |
| lbt | so ... we could have multiple branch names where master means "latest rebased changeset" | 11:30 |
| lbt | or ... we could talk to each other :) | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | so, what commands should i run to get us on top of upstream, with stskeeps's merge conflict fix merged? | 11:31 |
| lbt | rebase to upstream/master should only be occasional... every few days | 11:31 |
| lbt | in complex repos I like to have remote_branch as the tracking branch | 11:32 |
| lbt | so stskeeps_master | 11:32 |
| lbt | if you had that then : git push --force merproject stskeeps_master:master | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so, git checkout -b stskeeps_master --track stskeeps/master | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | and then that? | 11:33 |
| lbt | yes | 11:33 |
| lbt | I dunno if git push --force merproject stskeeps/master:master would work | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | mmkay | 11:33 |
| lbt | try it :) | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | let's see | 11:33 |
| lbt | also add me to merproject | 11:33 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, git push --force merproject stskeeps_master:master | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | done | 11:34 |
| lbt | looks good to me | 11:34 |
| lbt | I also created a tmp branch on my local repo to prevent gc in case things went pear shaped | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | also, Mer:OBS:Testing 'build' didn't have the sb2 patches | 11:35 |
| lbt | *nod* ... I didn't do the git->obs part | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:35 |
| lbt | do you use gitk ? | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | i try to but in this case it was remotely done on onster | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | monster | 11:36 |
| lbt | yeah | 11:36 |
| lbt | the problem is that without gitk I can feel blind :) | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so you'll make proper 'build' packages and updated obs packages based on Merproject/ now? | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | as you need those for anything to function | 11:37 |
| lbt | anyhow I think the push <to> <localname>:<remotename> concept is what you needed | 11:37 |
| lbt | yep - this afternoon | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 11:38 |
| lbt | got some notes to complete for the AB | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | ah, good point | 11:38 |
| lbt | Denise said "why did you do that tonight" .... I said "something will come up and steal my morning" | 11:38 |
| lbt | so I'm mainly done | 11:38 |
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| Stskeeps | in other news, http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/17/nhtsa-issues-distraction-guidelines-proposal-for-in-vehicle-el/ | 11:52 |
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| * lbt waits for the QtGazeDirection object | 11:55 | |
| lbt | and expects chord-like keyboard buttons on the back of the wheel | 11:55 |
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| vgrade | lbt, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oG94mghlSRw | 12:01 |
| lbt | :) | 12:01 |
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| Mark__T | hi, what is the target for gcc when building for n900? | 12:05 |
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| lbt | Mark__T: we're in a meeting - hang on a while | 12:15 |
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| jbos | hi, stskeeps is there swaplogger (http://gitorious.org/swaplogger/ ) for mer as rpm somewhere? | 12:32 |
| w00t | not that i know of at least | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, we used to have it compiled, did you check build.pub.meego.com search? | 12:33 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: are you _sure_? I always intended to package some of the perftools stuff, but never got the time | 12:33 |
| jbos | yep, no results from search | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | jbos: are you in same office as danny bennett by chance? | 12:34 |
| jbos | well, he is in US currently. | 12:34 |
| jbos | I'm in Germany | 12:34 |
| jbos | :) | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that explains a bit :) | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | we have mer advisory board meeting at the moment and he was supposed to represent PA | 12:35 |
| jbos | mhm so its 4 in the morning for him,... might explain it | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:43 |
| Sage_ | I packaged the swaplogger at somepoint at least | 12:45 |
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| Sage_ | not sure though where it is now :) | 12:46 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: you pinged about something ? | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: just tha t 'build' wasn't git-ified to merproject yet | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | pointed it out to lbt | 13:04 |
| lbt | yeah, it's on the post-meeting list | 13:05 |
| phaeron | the ones in :Devel come from merproject git | 13:10 |
| lbt | ah, not Testing | 13:11 |
| lbt | can you promote | 13:11 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: also, that merproject git has been updated | 13:19 |
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| phaeron | lbt: do you want to review , or should I just accept ? https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/4385 | 14:03 |
| lbt | looking | 14:05 |
| lbt | and eating :) | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | this is after pulling newest merproject snapshot? | 14:05 |
| * lbt looks for a sha1 reference | 14:05 | |
| lbt | yep | 14:05 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: yes | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | i deployed this to CI earlier today, hence how i found out the issues | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | and the old 'build' | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | (after all QA checks finished, so no harm done) | 14:06 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo ahma :) | 14:13 |
| Bostik | well hello there | 14:14 |
| Bostik | the day-to-day qt5 packaging will be his domain from now on, I've done most of the hard work bringing the rules up to date | 14:18 |
| lbt | ahma is here... hey :) | 14:18 |
| lbt | now ... watch him run away!!! *g* | 14:18 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: sounds good :) | 14:18 |
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| Stskeeps | hopefully we can start having it as a first class citizen in mer | 14:19 |
| ahma | lo everyone :) | 14:19 |
| Bostik | just pushed a half-state patch against jsbackend | 14:20 |
| ahma | Stskeeps, lbt: been a while o/ | 14:20 |
| lbt | welcome to the project | 14:20 |
| lbt | you may notice some similarities to a previous bit of work :D | 14:21 |
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| Stskeeps | or old mer, except we're more experienced now | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:21 |
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| ahma | :) | 14:22 |
| vgrade | ahma, hi | 14:22 |
| ahma | hi | 14:23 |
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| * lbt mutters about ADSL | 14:25 | |
| lbt | ahma: I hear Bostik is going to bring you up to speed on the Qt packaging - I'd love to tag along with you guys on that | 14:26 |
| Bostik | lbt: just pull my latest stuff from specwork project | 14:27 |
| Bostik | https://gitorious.org/modular-qt-specwork/modular-qt-specs | 14:28 |
| lbt | could ahma setup a wiki page about Mer/Qt5 - that would be good | 14:28 |
| Bostik | ahma will set up a git repo of his own someplace, and I'll pull from him frequently'ish just to stay on the radar | 14:29 |
| Bostik | any really hard problems I can help looking into, but in general my time is a bit limited | 14:29 |
| lbt | understood | 14:29 |
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| ahma | lbt: I planned documenting the workflow for myself, there is no reason not to use Mer Wiki | 14:30 |
| lbt | neat - there's a lot there already | 14:30 |
| lbt | Qt5 is probably kinda special though | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | not so much on actualy packaging qt5 | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | there's a releasing@ mailing list on qt-project for this purpose now | 14:31 |
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| lbt | so phaeron.... build, cobs and stuff | 14:43 |
| phaeron | you accepted the promotion | 14:43 |
| lbt | I did | 14:43 |
| lbt | I'm about to setup a c.worker | 14:44 |
| lbt | cmds is up | 14:44 |
| lbt | mutter | 14:45 |
| lbt | no systemd on squeeze | 14:45 |
| lbt | is it in testing? | 14:45 |
| phaeron | was the http redirect issue fixed ? | 14:45 |
| lbt | no | 14:45 |
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| lbt | head-in-sand solution | 14:46 |
| phaeron | lbt: systemd is in testing and unstable , why do you need it ? | 14:46 |
| lbt | mds | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | why not init.d it? | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:46 |
| lbt | can't be bothered to write a sysv init.d | 14:46 |
| lbt | like the author ;) | 14:46 |
| lbt | but I have systemd unit so.... | 14:47 |
| phaeron | lbt: use supervisord | 14:47 |
| lbt | that would be called a rabbit hole | 14:47 |
| phaeron | lbt: no | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: systemd is bound to cause more trouble on top of a debian system, tbh | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:47 |
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| lbt | the nice thing about VMs is that each has ~ nothing in it | 14:48 |
| lbt | so no impact | 14:48 |
| phaeron | lbt: I packaged supervisor for debian and it is used in skynet / mint | 14:48 |
| lbt | OK ... it's yours | 14:48 |
| phaeron | actually it was already packaged , but I meant it is part of mint | 14:48 |
| lbt | note it down here: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mer_Delivery_System#Running_under_Systemd | 14:49 |
| lbt | and we can use that | 14:49 |
| lbt | well next to that one | 14:49 |
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| lbt | mm my home mds system is debian with systemd | 14:50 |
| lbt | anyhoo | 14:50 |
| phaeron | lbt: well whichever is faster for now | 14:51 |
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| phaeron | I estimate about 15 to 30 minutes to run it with supervisor | 14:52 |
| phaeron | was the ssh access fixed :) | 14:54 |
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| phaeron | lbt: seems to work | 14:57 |
| lbt | yes, I setup a new ssh entry system last niht | 14:58 |
| lbt | with alterego | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | how's the wiki movement going? | 14:58 |
| phaeron | you mean ldap based | 14:58 |
| lbt | phaeron: yes | 14:58 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: alterego has root on that VM now - he'll ping me when he starts | 14:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:59 |
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| lbt | cmds is now systemd based with mds | 15:00 |
| phaeron | as you wish | 15:00 |
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| phaeron | lbt: brb to see what I could help with | 15:02 |
| lbt | we need git-obs and git-build on c.obs | 15:02 |
| lbt | can you upgrade them | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | we should validate on mer cobs first | 15:03 |
| lbt | I mean mer cobs | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:03 |
| lbt | FYI ... echo "deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian testing main" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/testing.list; apt-get update; apt-get install systemd; init 0; change boot line to add init=/bin/systemd; reboot. http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mer_Delivery_System#Running_under_Systemd | 15:06 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: now that is how sysadmin stuff should go. Not the crap we did yesterday | 15:07 |
| lbt | phaeron: are you doing cbe? | 15:08 |
| lbt | I can do cwrk1 | 15:08 |
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| phaeron | just upgrade or redeploy ? | 15:11 |
| lbt | upgrade | 15:11 |
| lbt | I hate it but we'll have to resolve the refer issue :( | 15:11 |
| lbt | we can ignore it for a bit | 15:11 |
| * dm8tbr decided it's casual friday at ELC and is proudly wearing a Mer shirt :) | 15:12 | |
| lbt | :) | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 15:13 |
| dm8tbr | no business meetings today, last day of conference, ... :) | 15:13 |
| dm8tbr | too bad SDE for gen9 archos is not out, else I'd have a device too | 15:14 |
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| lbt | dm8tbr: we have spares so a free T-shirt to anyone who commits to build a commercial product on Mer | 15:15 |
| lbt | that should persuade 'em !! | 15:15 |
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| phaeron | trying to ssh to cbe and cfe , I'll upgrade and see if I can fix the redirect issue | 15:16 |
| dm8tbr | LOL | 15:16 |
| lbt | phaeron: I'll do cwrk | 15:16 |
| Macer | there are Mer shirts? | 15:17 |
| Macer | heh | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 15:17 |
| Macer | well i guess ther is a shirt for everything | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-DqQ-oDZSma8/TsEfO3e6bLI/AAAAAAAABFU/-EYRIk6gQnE/s869/bild019_neg.nr.18.jpg | 15:17 |
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| Macer | :) next time you show a mer shirt try to find something a little less gay lovers | 15:19 |
| Macer | lol... sharing earbuds is like kissing | 15:20 |
| lbt | Macer: hehe ... you should see it when I teach him to dance | 15:20 |
| phaeron | lbt: can't ssh to cbe | 15:20 |
| Macer | hopefully not a tango ;) | 15:20 |
| lbt | of course tango... | 15:20 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Web_Infrastructure/Policy | 15:22 |
| lbt | oop | 15:22 |
| lbt | phaeron ^^ | 15:22 |
| * dm8tbr used to teach salsa for a very brief period | 15:23 | |
| lbt | Macer: €11 inc shipping - any spare € go to infra | 15:23 |
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| lbt | dm8tbr: hey ... I should get you into Tango -- you can teach me salsa | 15:23 |
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| dm8tbr | lbt: standard or argentino? | 15:25 |
| lbt | I used to do both - but argentine now | 15:25 |
| lbt | you actually get salsa/argentine mixed up a lot | 15:25 |
| dm8tbr | ah, that would be nice, I took ballroom lessons and have the former covered quite well still. only took 2 lessons of argentino though | 15:26 |
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| FluxiFlax2022 | hi where can I find the changelog for the release of 16/02/2012 | 15:45 |
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| Macer | ssh private keys must never be checked into a git repo which could compromise them | 15:49 |
| Macer | lol | 15:49 |
| Macer | talk about oops | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | you'd be surprised how many kinds of fuckups people can do | 15:50 |
| Macer | oh i believe it | 15:50 |
| Macer | heh | 15:50 |
| Macer | just thought that was kind of funny :) | 15:50 |
| dm8tbr | Macer: well, keeping your home directory backed up through e.g. git on a LAN accessible server. | 15:51 |
| dm8tbr | I wouldn't even call that 'oops' | 15:51 |
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| Macer | The following snippet can be usefully added to your .ssh/config (note you need to change the <USER> to your meego.com shell account name) | 15:52 |
| Macer | Host *.merproject.org | 15:52 |
| Macer | just throwing that out there | 15:53 |
| dm8tbr | speaking of shell accounts... lbt: where on your long backlog is moving/consolidating irc-bots? | 15:54 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: I can delegate VMs now - so .... when we have time | 15:54 |
| * Macer points at the "meego.com shell" part | 15:54 | |
| dm8tbr | k | 15:54 |
| lbt | Macer: ah | 15:54 |
| Macer | heh | 15:55 |
| dm8tbr | I won't have time earlier then late next week anyway | 15:55 |
| lbt | ta | 15:55 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: no rush | 15:55 |
| Macer | cut and paste ruined the world ;) | 15:55 |
| dm8tbr | yep | 15:55 |
| Macer | it's #2 on the list of humanity's greatest blunders... right underneath python :-P | 15:55 |
| dm8tbr | MerBot: botsnack | 15:55 |
| MerBot | dm8tbr: Error: "botsnack" is not a valid command. | 15:55 |
| dm8tbr | meeeeeh | 15:55 |
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| Macer | meritocracy? | 16:03 |
| Macer | is that even a word? | 16:03 |
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| Macer | oh wow.. i guess it is | 16:05 |
| Macer | a word i've never seen? this is almost as exciting as "quadroon" | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | hey fiferboy | 16:06 |
| fiferboy | Hi Stskeeps! | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | how is it going? | 16:07 |
| fiferboy | Pretty good, just getting back into Qt/QML programming | 16:07 |
| fiferboy | What about you? | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | i'm good, mer moving pretty well ahead | 16:08 |
| fiferboy | I saw an announcement recently | 16:08 |
| fiferboy | I have to make some time to try it out | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, there's been quite a few | 16:08 |
| fiferboy | Maybe this weekend is the one :) | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | nemo's getting better and better each day too | 16:10 |
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| fiferboy | Good to hear | 16:11 |
| lbt | hey fiferboy | 16:15 |
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| andrewfblack | Hello | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | morn andrewfblack :) | 16:16 |
| andrewfblack | Morning Stskeeps | 16:16 |
| * Stskeeps ponders how to bend obs to his will | 16:18 | |
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| lbt | phaeron: are new obsworker packages different | 16:21 |
| lbt | no config? | 16:21 |
| lbt | mmm or the postinst is bad | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | config where? i usually just do sysconfig | 16:22 |
| lbt | I have to do cp /var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.obs-server /etc/sysconfig/obs-server | 16:22 |
| lbt | manually | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | odd | 16:22 |
| lbt | packaging glitch I guess | 16:22 |
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| fiferboy | lbt: Hi! | 16:42 |
| lbt | high latency to the boondocks today then :) | 16:43 |
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| fiferboy | lbt: We just got internet in Canada this week ;) | 16:43 |
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| lbt | *g* | 16:44 |
| fiferboy | lbt: How's it going? | 16:44 |
| lbt | quite well - too many annoying problems keeping me from enjoyable work | 16:45 |
| lbt | but I think I'll ignore them | 16:45 |
| fiferboy | Solid plan | 16:45 |
| lbt | I pre-ordered a spark | 16:45 |
| lbt | also http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/ftdi-basic | 16:46 |
| lbt | so I can make an IR controller for my TV | 16:46 |
| fiferboy | Nice. It is important to make as many devices as possible into TV remotes | 16:47 |
| lbt | I will make another for my Joggler when it controls all the lighting in my back garden :) | 16:47 |
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| andrewfblack | Stskeeps: lbt any more thoughts on what CMS software to use for the Mer site? | 16:54 |
| lbt | I think we should focus on layout/style/content | 16:54 |
| lbt | then select technology | 16:55 |
| andrewfblack | lbt: ok | 16:55 |
| lbt | http://www.auraslate.com/page3.html | 16:56 |
| lbt | just because it's a cool way to present a message quite close to ours | 16:57 |
| andrewfblack | Flow chat is cool | 16:58 |
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| andrewfblack | Got any preference on layout? Single Column 2 Column? | 17:07 |
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| Stskeeps | hello kavurt and valdur55 | 17:16 |
| valdur55 | Stskeeps, Hello! | 17:16 |
| Stskeeps | valdur55: welcome :) so what brings you here? | 17:16 |
| kavurt | hi Stskeeps, i was watching LAS, i'm a kde person and the new tablet is interesting to me. | 17:17 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe :) yeah, it is a exciting project alright they're doing | 17:18 |
| valdur55 | Stskeeps, I am happy KDE user, and Mer os looks nice! | 17:18 |
| Stskeeps | it's a nice core that you can put shiny things on top of, yeah | 17:18 |
| Stskeeps | mer itself is only beautiful logo wise and architectually ;) | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | feel welcome to hang around here and if you have any questions on Mer, feel free to ask | 17:21 |
| valdur55 | I wan't use my free time to learn some new stuff :). | 17:22 |
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| Stskeeps | a good way to learn it then, we try to work in the open as best as we can, mostly because we don't have any other alternatives as we are spread across many countries and cities | 17:23 |
| valdur55 | Yea. And this is nice! So much different cultures | 17:24 |
| andrewfblack | Stskeeps: Any comments or thoughts on the website? As far as layout or content? | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | andrewfblack: not good with layout, content i brainstormed a bit about yesterday | 17:35 |
| andrewfblack | Stskeeps: I wasn't sure if you had anything else to add to content or not. We could stick with a simple one column site like now will any links to other pages in a row up top. | 17:37 |
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| phaeron | lbt: didn't change upstream packaging .. | 17:41 |
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| Stskeeps | andrewfblack: something that symbolizes minimalism i guess, but with ability to see deeper what it's used for and how to use it | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | .. or something | 17:43 |
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| andrewfblack | Stskeeps: Want me to do layout and content Mockups before I start working on real site. Or just setup a Sandbox Site and build as I design? Or do you care lol | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | andrewfblack: mockups are good for apps and websites :) | 17:57 |
| andrewfblack | Stskeeps: Ok, I'll do some. | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | typically because it's easier to throw away mockups and make them than to build | 17:57 |
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| andrewfblack | Stskeeps: yeah but I was the person in programming classes that would get an assignment and just start writing code I would figure it out as I went. | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | andrewfblack: either one works :) i was same until i started hitting my head too hard when making bigger things | 18:05 |
| andrewfblack | Stskeeps: lol | 18:06 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: did lbt go already ? | 18:12 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: no clue, when he goes silent for a while i'm assuming he's either 1) hacking 2) tangoing or 3) sleeping | 18:18 |
| w00t | or all three | 18:19 |
| w00t | simultaneously | 18:19 |
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| phaeron | ok so I upgraded obs and we want to test it ? | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | yes, hmm.. how best to do it | 18:22 |
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| phaeron | you want to test sb2 right ? | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | got access to the MDS server? | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | and is that linked up on the obs | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | MDS/fakeobs | 18:22 |
| phaeron | there is also the redirect issue he mentioned | 18:23 |
| phaeron | trying to access | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that's a rabbit hole i don't want to get into right now as it will block the mer release if we spend time on it right now | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | in the release-tools dir, rsync -aHx --verbose rsync://releases.merproject.org/mer-releases/obs-repos/Core:0.20120209.0.0.3:* obs-repos | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | then we get the prerelease | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | and go into obs-projects/Core and git pull | 18:26 |
| phaeron | wait wait :D | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, sorry, just collecting info and dumping it ;) | 18:26 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: you should dump it in a wiki | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | that's treu | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | true | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | though i'd very much like us to find a different way than that :) | 18:27 |
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| phaeron | rsync: link_stat "/obs-repos/Core:0.20120209.0.0.3:*" (in mer-releases) failed: No such file or directory (2) | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | huh | 18:28 |
| phaeron | but I see there is a lot of repos synced already by lbt | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | oh damnit | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | in the release-tools dir, rsync -aHx --verbose rsync://releases.merproject.org/mer-releases/obs-repos/Core:*:0.20120209.0.0.3 obs-repos | 18:29 |
| * Stskeeps hates the day he decided to put arch in the middle | 18:29 | |
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| phaeron | yeah I noticed , rsyncing again already | 18:30 |
| phaeron | git pull already up todate | 18:30 |
| phaeron | ok we try to link against it ? | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | well, we need to modify mappings.xml a bit | 18:33 |
| * lbt was sleeping ... will be tangoing soon | 18:34 | |
| Stskeeps | copy duplicate Core:X to Core:X:prerelease and change :latest -> :0.20120209.0.0.3 | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | X being the archs | 18:35 |
| phaeron | sounds hackish | 18:35 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: phaeron internal wiki on airy:5001 | 18:36 |
| lbt | has deployment info | 18:37 |
| lbt | not much there for cobs - mainly in main wiki | 18:37 |
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| lbt | back tomorrow :D o/ | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 18:38 |
| phaeron | bye | 18:38 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: brb | 18:41 |
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| * Stskeeps needs a whiteboard | 18:50 | |
| phaeron | back | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | wb | 18:53 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3403180 | 18:54 |
| phaeron | ah prerlease | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | change name of project="" | 18:55 |
| phaeron | yes got it | 18:55 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: reloaded , where are the logs | 19:01 |
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| Stskeeps | hello monstaokki | 19:01 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: linke to obs | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | k | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | linked, i assume | 19:09 |
| phaeron | yes | 19:09 |
| phaeron | let's try to build something ? | 19:09 |
| phaeron | It's linked at Mer:MDS | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | first verify you can check out a package, from Core:i586 acl | 19:10 |
| phaeron | ok | 19:10 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: yep works | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | ok, then try to build a package against first Mer:MDS:Core:i586 Core_i586 scheduler i586, then Core:armv7l Core armv7l scheduler armv7el | 19:13 |
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| Stskeeps | and then against Core:i586:prerelease, armv7l | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | (btw, while it does suck a bit, i'm letting you do the validation as i might be blind to issues as i've been working so much with it, so it's best other people try it out) | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:16 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: :D ok i586 says building | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | actually, just skip right ahead to prerelease | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | the prjconf isn't correct for arm* on that Core checkout | 19:18 |
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| phaeron | seems the single worker is setup to use lxc | 19:20 |
| phaeron | so it fails to build | 19:20 |
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| phaeron | I created two repos for i586 . release and prerelease | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | lxc? odd it fails to build | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | what error? | 19:22 |
| phaeron | booting lxc ... | 19:23 |
| phaeron | configuration path '/var/lib/lxc' not found | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 19:23 |
| phaeron | brb kid -> bed | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 19:23 |
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| phaeron | back | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | wb | 19:29 |
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| andrewfblack | Stskeeps: still around? | 19:32 |
| phaeron | so the worker is a vm and probably lxc is the only option better than chroot | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | andrewfblack: sure, it's not like i have a life ;) | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: for now, chroot is ok | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | we just need to validate | 19:33 |
| andrewfblack | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2240466/Mer/Mockups/Mer%20Mockup%201%202-17-2012.png first mockup idea | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, now that brings memories of hildon :) | 19:34 |
| andrewfblack | lol I didn't even think of that when I did it | 19:34 |
| andrewfblack | it must be just burned onto my brain | 19:34 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: building .. | 19:35 |
| phaeron | success | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | ok, for i586 | 19:35 |
| phaeron | yes prerelease and release | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:36 |
| phaeron | it can't publish because there is no crepo yet | 19:36 |
| phaeron | ah wait it did | 19:37 |
| phaeron | ok the external rsync server is not setup yet | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:37 |
| phaeron | but it published to the internal one | 19:37 |
| phaeron | brb | 19:38 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mer_Delivery_System completed. local OBS next | 19:41 |
| vgrade | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_Setup is this the one? | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | mm, that's a good one but i would use some other repo urls | 19:41 |
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| vgrade | what about , http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mer_OBS_VM_Setup_Guide | 19:46 |
| andrewfblack | I will take Hildon comment as go back to drawning board lol | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | andrewfblack: well, i kind of liked the general idea | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | andrewfblack: but i am a trekkie too.. | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lcars_wallpaper.gif ;) | 19:47 |
| andrewfblack | I'm a trekkie to lol | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | andrewfblack: did you see the 'a day made of glass' videos? | 19:48 |
| andrewfblack | don't think so | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | okay, sec | 19:49 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cf7IL_eZ38 is a day made of glass 1, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZkHpNnXLB0 is the sequel, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-GXO_urMow is the sequel with narration, very useful to watch | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | that's the kind of world mer fits in | 19:50 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: btw, saw a TV in a mirror in the lobby of hotel Nikko in SF, had to think of you :) | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: hehe ;) | 19:50 |
| * dm8tbr has a pic somewhere, so it happened! | 19:50 | |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: so what's next | 19:52 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: well, did an arm package build from prerelease | 19:52 |
| phaeron | lets see | 19:52 |
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| Stskeeps | dobry wieczór jstaniek | 19:56 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: building .. | 19:56 |
| jstaniek | witaj Stskeeps ;) | 19:57 |
| jstaniek | hi all | 19:57 |
| * jstaniek notes: another hacker getting accustomed with the nice Polish language ;) | 19:57 | |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: success | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | well, or trying to rescue his sanity by being able to understand what goes on around him ;) | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: ok, can you try a non-prerelease one to? | 19:58 |
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| dm8tbr | jstaniek: witam :) | 20:00 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: getbinaries: missing packages: sb2-tools-armv7l-inject | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: no surprises | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: but it scheduled? | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | ah, of course it did | 20:01 |
| phaeron | yeah and failed | 20:01 |
| jstaniek | dm8tbr: cześć :) | 20:02 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: ok, let's try an experiment.. | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | nah, nevermind | 20:03 |
| * phaeron puts on a lab coat | 20:03 | |
| Stskeeps | we'll see that for sure in cobs | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | did you read about Hostarch: ? | 20:03 |
| phaeron | spec tag ? | 20:03 |
| phaeron | I know about buildarch | 20:04 |
| phaeron | afair | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | nah, it's a new thing | 20:04 |
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| Stskeeps | Hostarch: is basically a new thing on where to schedule a cross package | 20:04 |
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| Stskeeps | Hostarch: x86_64 would schedule it on x86_64 workers | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | else it would revert to only taking arm workers for instance | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | this will be a problem on build.pub | 20:05 |
| phaeron | mm can't think of why would someone use it on cobs | 20:07 |
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| phaeron | a package that has to be built on certain arch .. why .. :D | 20:08 |
| phaeron | maybe it needs >4G ram so it needs 64bit vs 32bit | 20:08 |
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| phaeron | usually workers are 64bit | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: it's more complicated than that.. in old OBS, x86_64 could build ARM packages too because of cross | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | it's no longer automatically doing that | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | you need to tell it to use x86_64/i586 host | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | within prjconf | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | so if there's no physical arm workers, it'll just queue the jobs | 20:09 |
| phaeron | cross means baselibs ? | 20:10 |
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| * phaeron isn't thinking straight :D | 20:11 | |
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| Stskeeps | cross means 'run the arm job using a x86 worker' | 20:15 |
| phaeron | ok .. so obs by default expects everyone to have native arm builders ? | 20:16 |
| phaeron | that's retarded | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that's the new thing | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | the thing was that old behaviour meant it would -only- take x86 workers for builds | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | always | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | no arm builders | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | so this thing actually enables us to do dual tests, cross and native builds | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | so for any cross enabled arm builds, we now need to add Hostarch: x86_64 to the prjcons | 20:19 |
| phaeron | so it got reversed .. the correct answer sounds like use native if available and use any capable workers according to the scheduling algos | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | to make them schedule on x86 workers | 20:19 |
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| Stskeeps | i want to test mer build test cases on native arm hw at some point too so | 20:21 |
| phaeron | what's the benefit ? | 20:22 |
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| Stskeeps | as an example, you get non-qemu infested testcase results | 20:23 |
| Stskeeps | many testcases we skip on qemu | 20:23 |
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| Stskeeps | this will probably be the most irritating part of cobs (build.pub) deployment | 20:23 |
| phaeron | testing I understand , but building .. :( | 20:24 |
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| phaeron | can it be testing only on native hardware | 20:30 |
| phaeron | makes more sense to me | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | that's one thing i hope to do with sb2 | 20:31 |
| phaeron | interesting :) | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | good old http://www.scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/sbrsh.html | 20:33 |
| w00t | "good" being highly subjective? | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | i really should stop using positive words around anything that contains the word 'scratchbox' | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | people get really upset | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | new names for SB2 welcom | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | e | 20:34 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: I don't think enabling network on the builders is a good idea | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: i don't think so either, but think about only doing testcase tests after a repo is published.. | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | ie, run through each one with a osc build or the likes.. | 20:35 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: I can definitely think of a boss process /participant stuff to trigger and do that stuff | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:35 |
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| Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind something like setting up a vpn connection between a kvm and a native worker, for example | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | like, in 'build' script | 20:36 |
| phaeron | mm I am sure build can trigger rpmbuild to do the %check section only somehow | 20:37 |
| Stskeeps | we have %if ! 0%{?qemu_user_space_build} right now | 20:38 |
| Stskeeps | with it currently being 1 all the time | 20:38 |
| Stskeeps | okay, time to call it a night | 20:39 |
| * Stskeeps has the new Dune book to read.. | 20:40 | |
| phaeron | 'night | 20:40 |
| vgrade | night | 20:40 |
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| nsuffys | good night / dream +++ | 20:52 |
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| vgrade | mdavey, not long now | 23:16 |
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| mdavey | vgrade: lets hope. | 23:16 |
| vgrade | are the guys over in china | 23:17 |
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