| vgrade | Macer, I noticed your question a few days ago but you quit before I could answer | 00:02 |
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| vgrade | some of the transformers have a locked bootloader | 00:02 |
| vgrade | can you use the nvflash tool with your device? | 00:03 |
| vgrade | have a look at my lab notes for tegra 2 part | 00:03 |
| vgrade | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/TEGRA2/Notes | 00:04 |
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| Macer | ah ok | 00:25 |
| Macer | yeah i heard that newer models of the transformer couldn't be rooted in a certain way because of the locked bootloader | 00:25 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, did you decide to distribute developer devices yet? | 00:29 |
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| sonach | lbt: When Platform SDK is OK to test, tell me, I am looking forward to try it. | 02:28 |
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| Macer | vgrade: i see about the bootloader and the notes but there are still no clear cut instructions on how to get mer on it | 05:30 |
| Macer | that just seems like a rmbled bunch of information. i was hoping to install mer and active on the transformer | 05:31 |
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| Stskeeps | huomenta jukka | 07:14 |
| jukkaeklund | good morning | 07:18 |
| Paimen | morning :) | 07:18 |
| w00t | jukkaeklund: the only good morning is a dead one :P | 07:30 |
| timoph | jukkaeklund: @NF today? | 07:34 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: could you retrigger the libXcursor review, it got killed | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | can i delay that possibly as we potentially have to do a obs reboot later in the day? | 07:41 |
| Sage_ | sure | 07:41 |
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| Sage_ | no rush, just noted when reading the messages | 07:42 |
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| _Thomas | vgrade: We will reserve units for sales | 07:59 |
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| jukkaeklund | w00t, hehe | 08:05 |
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| jukkaeklund | timoph, yes | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | _Thomas: can you get gles working on cottoncandy with linaro deliverables or is additional stuff needed? | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | (for glibc based systems) | 08:06 |
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| timoph | jukkaeklund: I'll stop by NF around noon. so lunch? | 08:09 |
| _Thomas | Stskeeps: We'll be releasing binaries for GLES | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok, cool | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | that should make it a slam dunk to put mer on those creatures then :) | 08:10 |
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| Macer | release binaries with instructions for transformers lol | 08:10 |
| Macer | woooo? | 08:10 |
| Macer | (high fives?) | 08:11 |
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| jukkaeklund | timoph, sure I should be near Jolly boat table :) | 08:16 |
| jukkaeklund | Macer, \o :) | 08:16 |
| Macer | heh | 08:17 |
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| slaine | morning all | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | morn slaine | 08:24 |
| slaine | Morning Stskeeps | 08:25 |
| slaine | Today is the day I think | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | for? | 08:25 |
| slaine | Hardware Adaptation | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 08:25 |
| slaine | my calendar is clear for the first time in weeks | 08:25 |
| slaine | I'll get the coffee on and get started | 08:26 |
| slaine | before I get distracted | 08:26 |
| _Thomas | Stskeeps: We'll be in a position to release our own binaries for whatever OS/distro we see fit, so if it's missing, we can release if someone do a request | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | sounds great | 08:28 |
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| vgrade | morning | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | morn vgrade | 08:35 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, thanks | 08:36 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: assume I'm starting from scratch, what's the preferred dev env to get this moving, for installing osc and mic2 | 08:36 |
| slaine | morning vgrade | 08:36 |
| vgrade | Macer, do you have time to get together to do some transformer work? | 08:36 |
| vgrade | mor slaine | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: the best thing you can do is prod lbt for a copy of platform sdk | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | which has osc, 'mic', etc | 08:37 |
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| slaine | Oh yeah, forgot about that | 08:37 |
| slaine | I've got http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step open at the moment | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | that works too, i gues | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | s | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | just follow the guide | 08:37 |
| slaine | I've my fake obs instance updating at the moment, but that might take a while | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:37 |
| slaine | wonder if I should just use by pub account | 08:37 |
| slaine | cobs | 08:37 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: just to recap, the fake obs update process is , git pull; make; make update right ? | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | right | 08:40 |
| slaine | grand | 08:40 |
| slaine | can I ssh onto my cobs a/c ? | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | no, it's a obs account | 08:40 |
| slaine | so, I use a local osc tool to connect to the cobs server | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | right | 08:41 |
| slaine | might do that so | 08:41 |
| slaine | lbt: you around ? | 08:45 |
| Macer | vgrade: probably in a few hours if you're around | 08:47 |
| Macer | i don't mind taking one for the team. just let me get wordpress going so i can blog it | 08:48 |
| Macer | heh | 08:48 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: more systemd changes afoot, http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-release.html | 08:48 |
| Macer | once i get that going i have no problem trying to get the steps down to share with the world ;) | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: yeah, i follow the mailing list | 08:49 |
| vgrade | Macer, it will probably be around 18:00 | 08:49 |
| vgrade | UTC | 08:49 |
| Macer | what time utc is it now? | 08:49 |
| Macer | chicago is -6 now i think | 08:49 |
| * slaine is envious of you guys finding the time for all this | 08:49 | |
| Macer | 8am? | 08:50 |
| Macer | ah. it is 850utc .. ok thats fine | 08:50 |
| Macer | so noon chicago time | 08:50 |
| Macer | i never understood the need for time zones :) | 08:51 |
| jukkaeklund | timoph, need to cancel lunch :/ | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: well, hopefully we can prove that a low Y amount of people can maintain a core that X number companies can use it without significant modification, saving the need to hire (X-1 * Y) employees across X companies | 08:52 |
| Macer | i am sure people can adapt their lives to the time being different when the sun is up | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:52 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: Yeah, but where's the fun in that | 08:52 |
| slaine | ;) | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | because usually there isn't (X * Y) knowledgeable people ;) | 08:52 |
| slaine | hehe | 08:52 |
| slaine | Right, seeing as lbt isn't around just yet, what's the best source for mic2 and osc for getting this moving, git ? | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, mic2 is git for sure | 08:53 |
| Macer | vgrade: i will be around at 1800 utc ;) that will give me enough time to set up a vhost in apache to get a wp install going | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | if you run into trouble that last over 4 hours, wait for platform sdk | 08:54 |
| slaine | This one, git://gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/image-creator.git | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:54 |
| slaine | cool | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | master, not tag | 08:54 |
| slaine | nod | 08:54 |
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| Stskeeps | morn mdfe, feeling better today? | 09:05 |
| mdfe | much better, thanks and good morning :) | 09:06 |
| Macer | plasma active is in the mer repos? | 09:06 |
| mdfe | ? | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | no, mer is a core | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | plasma active is a seperate project with it's own repos :) | 09:07 |
| Macer | ah ok | 09:07 |
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| Macer | so if vgrade and i manage laterto makde step by step instructions for a transfofrmer then plasma active is a matter of installing their repo and using rpm? | 09:07 |
| mdfe | yep | 09:08 |
| Macer | core distro... or core kernels with nothing else? :) | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | core, there's no mer kernel | 09:08 |
| Macer | all device kernels | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | so it's a set of packages giving a system and tools you can build on top of | 09:09 |
| Macer | hm | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | no UIs, no hardware adaptations | 09:09 |
| Macer | build on top of? | 09:09 |
| mdfe | Macer: Here a PA Mer kickstart file to build images | 09:10 |
| mdfe | http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_x86_usb_live_and_install_archive/2012-02-08-14-07-basyskom-plasma-active-testing-mer-usb-live.ks | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, we give tools to help make mer-based products | 09:10 |
| Macer | that sounds scary. you do have typical tools tho and a basic repo for standard gnu utilities? | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | it is scary, but a pretty good proposition | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | yes, we have typical tools, but it's like image creators, build systems, etc | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | standard gnu utilities we have at the moment | 09:11 |
| Macer | well hopefully i can get mer + active on this transformer | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | provided it isn't locked | 09:12 |
| Macer | and eliminate ad-droid from my life | 09:12 |
| Macer | yeah. it is a old 16GB non-3G one | 09:12 |
| Macer | so hopefully | 09:12 |
| mdfe | :) | 09:12 |
| Macer | i want to try that and nemo on my n900 | 09:12 |
| vgrade | Macer, in prep can you configure and build your kernel with the following http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Adaptation_Guide | 09:12 |
| vgrade | what version is your kernel? | 09:13 |
| Macer | in ad-droid? let me check.. i have it hefre | 09:14 |
| Macer | just not in a position where i can work on it now | 09:14 |
| Macer | ... | 09:15 |
| Macer | 2.6.36.3-00001-g9a21fc1 | 09:16 |
| vgrade | ok, good | 09:16 |
| Macer | sorry | 09:17 |
| Macer | 0001 :) | 09:17 |
| Macer | why is that good? heh | 09:17 |
| vgrade | if it was older you would need a patch to suit systemd | 09:17 |
| Macer | i just hope it is old enough to not have a blocked bootloader | 09:18 |
| Macer | the cheap ser# sticker fell off | 09:18 |
| slaine | hmmm, I never did get that coffee | 09:21 |
| Macer | B6OKAS012958 | 09:21 |
| RaYmAn | that's good | 09:21 |
| RaYmAn | It's the one with known SBK :) | 09:21 |
| Macer | as i recall B60 was unlocked | 09:21 |
| RaYmAn | in reality the secure boot key was leaked for it, making it's security void | 09:21 |
| Macer | heh | 09:22 |
| lbt | morning all | 09:22 |
| RaYmAn | sadly, the tightened security a hell of a lot after that ;) | 09:22 |
| Macer | well... hopefully all goes well later | 09:22 |
| RaYmAn | they* | 09:22 |
| Macer | i dont see why | 09:22 |
| RaYmAn | Macer: at least it's impossible to brick a B60 or earlier :) | 09:22 |
| Macer | what is gthe big deal? | 09:22 |
| Macer | RaYmAn: we'll see ;) | 09:23 |
| RaYmAn | lol | 09:23 |
| RaYmAn | It's literally impossible (discounting hardware errors) :P | 09:23 |
| Macer | hope so ;) | 09:23 |
| Macer | mer on the transformer should be a uboot deal? | 09:23 |
| Macer | booting off the sd? | 09:24 |
| RaYmAn | uboot doesn't really play well with the standard android kernel | 09:24 |
| RaYmAn | (on TF) | 09:24 |
| Macer | hm | 09:24 |
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| Macer | well. i will wofrry about it when i can wofrk on it | 09:25 |
| RaYmAn | Are you going for accelerated or non-accelerated? :P | 09:25 |
| slaine | morning lbt | 09:25 |
| Macer | accelerated i hope ;) | 09:25 |
| Macer | no gl would suck | 09:25 |
| RaYmAn | well, then you need to go for a very particular kernel (which most likely need porting unless someone already did that for TF) | 09:25 |
| RaYmAn | Nvidia isn't very good at maintaining a stable interface to userspace drivers :( | 09:26 |
| Macer | well i am sure acive would run horrible non accelerated | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: you'd think so, but the engadget video is actually nonaccelerated | 09:26 |
| Macer | i will see hat happens when i can do work on it | 09:26 |
| lbt | slaine: Stskeeps: in general the answer to "what's the authoritative answer for something in Mer" should be http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:About | 09:27 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: lol... yeah well.. i hopefully can have it accelerated | 09:27 |
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| Macer | because that would suck to have a useless gpu ;) | 09:27 |
| * Macer points to n8x0 | 09:27 | |
| RaYmAn | Macer: sure, just sharing some experiences with tegra ;) THey are *very* particular about exact kernel revisions for different drivers :P | 09:27 |
| vgrade | I'm not sure if this has the correct interface, https://github.com/lilstevie/CrOS-Hybrid-Kernel | 09:28 |
| lbt | slaine: and I have a working SDK now | 09:28 |
| RaYmAn | iirc that one is for alpha2 drivers | 09:28 |
| lbt | slaine: testers welcome :) | 09:28 |
| slaine | I'm all yours | 09:28 |
| Macer | well.. i will be back later ;) | 09:28 |
| lbt | OK - let me get you an image | 09:29 |
| Macer | thanks for the info | 09:29 |
| slaine | Starting from Ubuntu 11.10 | 09:29 |
| slaine | I've just install mic2 from git | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: SSSE3 or non-SSSE3? | 09:29 |
| lbt | yep - that should mainly be irrelevant | 09:29 |
| slaine | ssse3 | 09:29 |
| slaine | ^ Stskeeps | 09:29 |
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| mdfe | RaYmAn: moin | 09:30 |
| RaYmAn | mdfe: howdy | 09:32 |
| slaine | step 1 complete, mic2 built a mer fs | 09:47 |
| jukkaeklund | lbt, new password doesn't in bugs.nemomobile.org | 09:51 |
| jukkaeklund | ..work, that is | 09:51 |
| lbt | jukkaeklund: mmm | 09:51 |
| lbt | slaine: OK - try this shell for enter-chroot | 09:51 |
| lbt | I'll stop uploading my fs now | 09:52 |
| lbt | :/ | 09:52 |
| slaine | No, I'll test all your stuff | 09:52 |
| slaine | I'm following your step by step at the moment. | 09:52 |
| Macer | wtf | 09:53 |
| lbt | this is called enter-chroot.sh http://pastie.org/3379625 | 09:53 |
| lbt | it should be in root of the sdk fs | 09:53 |
| slaine | Is osc-0.132.4 up to date enough ? | 09:53 |
| lbt | slaine: these questions should not be needed anymore :) | 09:54 |
| slaine | true | 09:54 |
| slaine | :) | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: he doesn't actually have a sdk fs yet | 09:54 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: he's uploading it atm | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:54 |
| Macer | ssseeeeeeee9 | 09:56 |
| Macer | heh | 09:56 |
| lbt | slaine: here's the .ks http://pastie.org/3379637 | 09:56 |
| slaine | ok, both those down | 09:58 |
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| slaine | give me a poke when the fs is up, I've some stuff to do here. | 09:58 |
| lbt | OK | 09:58 |
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| sledges | hello | 10:01 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning sledges | 10:01 |
| sledges | any IVI solutions on top of Mer ? | 10:01 |
| sledges | hello Stskeeps | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: mailing list has a guy interested | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 10:02 |
| sledges | http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00153.html ? | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | bingo, simon boek | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | bolek | 10:02 |
| lbt | slaine: https://img.merproject.org/images/mer-sdk.tar.bz2 | 10:02 |
| sledges | Stskeeps: boss wants to ditch MeeGo IVI, and look for alternative platforms :( I tried to fighting at least for MeeGo | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: no surprises on meego ivi, just remember that not much other is genivi certified | 10:04 |
| slaine | lbt: ok, pull ding down, about 5 mins based on eta and current network usage | 10:04 |
| lbt | slaine: wait | 10:04 |
| lbt | d'oh | 10:04 |
| lbt | missing sudo | 10:04 |
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| slaine | canceled | 10:04 |
| sledges | yup, that's what he said : he still wants Genivi certified. I personally liked early MeeGo's IVI, than the last one | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: only other genivi certified i know of is ubuntu core ivi remix | 10:05 |
| lbt | sledges: have you talked to Jeremiah ? | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | which erm, doesn't look too fancy | 10:05 |
| lbt | sledges: from Pelagicore | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind some vendor pulling mer plus ivi packages and publishing/selling genivi solutions after certification | 10:05 |
| slaine | That seems like a logical path from Meego IVI | 10:06 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I think that's in scope for Pelagicore | 10:06 |
| sledges | lbt, no haven't come across Jeremiah | 10:06 |
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| lbt | sledges: talk to vgrade too | 10:06 |
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| lbt | he is kinda working on Mer IVI | 10:06 |
| lbt | same group of people | 10:07 |
| lbt | iirc there's some interest in JLR | 10:07 |
| lbt | but you know "interest" is a very vague term | 10:07 |
| sledges | I see, infant stages. I would somehow need to persuade my boss to resource on bringing it to life, and certification; most probably not in our scope of company and the timescales he's putting out | 10:07 |
| lbt | well, don't forget that you get all the MeeGo work for free | 10:08 |
| lbt | and that's not insignificant | 10:08 |
| sledges | true, and Nokia N9 is why I'm here, but MeeGo IVI is by far nowhere near as fancy as N9 UI experience | 10:09 |
| lbt | you also get the Mer/Qt dev process too - and we think the competitive advantage there is also quite large | 10:09 |
| lbt | No, but that's the point | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: just remember you can throw away meego ivi ux | 10:09 |
| lbt | you get to put all your effort into the UI because so much below is working | 10:09 |
| sledges | so my highest hopes are for Nemo Mobile. For UI you need designers, not engineers. None of such in our company I'm afraid :) | 10:10 |
| lbt | (sounds like you're looking for points so just trying to offer them) | 10:10 |
| slaine | And that UX was a template reference UX, not intended for resale by IVI vendors. | 10:10 |
| lbt | ah ... that's a hiring problem :) | 10:10 |
| sledges | more like a company's direction problem | 10:10 |
| lbt | OTOH ... partenering with someone like Pelagicore or Nomovok may be a way to get that kind of skill | 10:11 |
| lbt | but that's getting OT for here :) | 10:11 |
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| Paimen | we at nomovok are working currently to get genivi certificate for our Steelrat for ivi | 10:14 |
| jukkaeklund | there you go :) | 10:15 |
| lbt | sledges: see Paimen | 10:15 |
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| sledges | lbt, Paimen, thanks for the info! What licening will you intend? | 10:16 |
| sledges | s/licening/licensing | 10:16 |
| slaine | lbt, ETA on updated fs ? | 10:17 |
| Paimen | sledges: what you mean for licensing in this context? | 10:18 |
| lbt | moments | 10:18 |
| lbt | slaine: try now | 10:19 |
| sledges | Paimen, just reading this and it is becoming clearer: http://nomovok.com/news/10/34/Nomovok-and-Pelagicore-start-strategic-cooperation-in-the-IVI-sector | 10:19 |
| Paimen | yup | 10:20 |
| slaine | lbt: ok, on it's way | 10:20 |
| Paimen | sledges Rami erlin is good man to contact if your company is interested in partnership | 10:20 |
| lbt | sledges: and steelrat is built on Mer | 10:20 |
| Paimen | lbt: currently work on process transfering from meego to mer | 10:21 |
| sledges | Paimen, could not find any IVI videos | 10:21 |
| Paimen | sledges: sorry not available yet | 10:21 |
| lbt | Paimen: yes, that's better phrasing | 10:21 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: http://review.merproject.org/#patch,sidebyside,403,1,libdmx.spec -- COPYING, is that a GPL license file? | 10:21 |
| lbt | I've been Pasi'd :D | 10:21 |
| Paimen | well Pasi is Pasi :D | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | ah no, MIT/X11 | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | god | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | good | 10:22 |
| sledges | you see, Paimen , everyone expects to see a thing in action :) video will be the first thing I will send to my boss and the sales' team. Any timescales' outlook? :) | 10:23 |
| Paimen | sledges: I need to push our IVI guys then :D | 10:23 |
| sledges | yes please :)) | 10:23 |
| Paimen | I'm not actually working with IVI myself | 10:23 |
| sledges | anyone on this #chan? | 10:24 |
| Paimen | I'm afraid not | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | probably a good idea to contact sales? | 10:25 |
| Paimen | well I think best is to contact directly to Rami Erlin head of our IVI-development | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:25 |
| Paimen | or maybe if you can give me some contacts / more information of your needs I can ask Rami to contact you with something to show | 10:29 |
| Paimen | sledges: ^ | 10:29 |
| slaine | lbt, just running the enter-root.sh throws up errors, not usage () | 10:30 |
| lbt | oh yeah | 10:32 |
| lbt | there's some bug in pastie | 10:32 |
| lbt | I reported this ages ago | 10:32 |
| lbt | https://img.merproject.org/images/enter-chroot.sh | 10:35 |
| lbt | slaine: when you run enter-chroot it will bind mount your home and such into the sdk | 10:36 |
| lbt | if you rm -rf the SDK you *WILL* lose all your data and destroy your machine :) | 10:36 |
| lbt | please don't do that | 10:36 |
| w00t | that sounds fun | 10:37 |
| lbt | yeah | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: is there a exit-chroot too..? | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:37 |
| lbt | yeah and it's as failsafe and noisy as I can make it | 10:37 |
| lbt | but if you rm -rf from another screen | 10:37 |
| lbt | then game over | 10:37 |
| lbt | the only way I can think to make it safe is to unpack the chroot to another fs and then rm --one-filesystem will work | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | unionfs? | 10:38 |
| lbt | not widely available | 10:38 |
| lbt | it's not as bad as it sounds | 10:39 |
| lbt | but in this "make/remove" development phase it's an issue | 10:39 |
| lbt | normal users will rarely remove the SDK | 10:39 |
| lbt | and TBH it's the same as scratchbox ever was | 10:40 |
| lbt | slaine: use cat /proc/self/mounts before removing the SDK root | 10:40 |
| lbt | don't rely on "mount" | 10:41 |
| lbt | also be aware that mic plays silly and seems worse at removing bind mounts than my noddy shellscript | 10:41 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: also.... osc uses uname to determine the host arch | 10:42 |
| slaine | that's usually 'cause something has an open file | 10:42 |
| lbt | slaine: nah ... it simply doesn't trap exceptions and cleanup | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: yes | 10:42 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: doesn't work so well in sdk | 10:42 |
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| slaine | lbt, don't think it's pastie is the problem, same errors | 10:44 |
| lbt | pastie the error? | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | what is /bin/sh ? | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | dash or bash? | 10:44 |
| lbt | the pastebin is bad slaine... look at line 9 and 15 | 10:44 |
| lbt | bash | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | #!/bin/bash in the top too? | 10:45 |
| lbt | that runs outside the sdk | 10:45 |
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| slaine | Well, I wget'd the url you have above and get the same errors | 10:46 |
| * lbt goes to the window and squints *real hard* but still can't see slaine's monitor | 10:47 | |
| slaine | sorry, I'm on the phone too, I'll paste to pastie | 10:47 |
| lbt | np | 10:47 |
| slaine | http://pastie.org/3379885 | 10:48 |
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| mdfe | Stskeeps: the mer sdk is based on madde? | 10:50 |
| lbt | mdfe: we don't really have a mer application SDK | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe: the intention is to have two sdks, one application sdk (qt creator), one platform sdk (bash shell, scratchbox2, osc, mic, etc) | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | platform is for things app sdk can't do :) | 10:53 |
| lbt | and we'll likely work on upstreaming patches for qt creator to support mer builds | 10:53 |
| mdfe | the meego sdk for applications was imho madde based | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | i'm a little worried about madde as it's kind of complex and upstream development stopped | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | i'm hoping we'll see some effort from qtonpi | 10:54 |
| vgrade | nemo sg meeting today? | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | right | 10:55 |
| slaine | lbt, you see the above, http://pastie.org/3379885 | 10:55 |
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| lbt | fixed | 10:55 |
| slaine | repull ? | 10:55 |
| lbt | yes | 10:55 |
| slaine | bingo | 10:55 |
| lbt | oh, it may complain that it's not a mer SDK | 10:56 |
| lbt | touch ${sdkroot}/etc/MerSDK | 10:56 |
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| mdfe | Stskeeps: thanks | 10:56 |
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| Stskeeps | mdfe: did cmake and such things work with madde? | 10:56 |
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| mdfe | there are some issues | 10:57 |
| slaine | lbt, the fs should probably be in a top level dir, like mer-sdk-<version> | 10:57 |
| mdfe | e.g. the cmake find stuff needs sometimes some work-a-rounds | 10:57 |
| lbt | slaine: if that's where you want it that's fine | 10:58 |
| lbt | I agree it should unpack to a decent name | 10:58 |
| lbt | oh, you don't mean top level as / | 10:58 |
| slaine | No, what you said | 10:58 |
| slaine | don't want it unpacking all over my current dir | 10:58 |
| slaine | put it in mer-sdk-0.1 | 10:59 |
| slaine | -u mer ? | 10:59 |
| lbt | no | 10:59 |
| mdfe | Stskeeps: For some time we decided in the peregrine project to switch from cmake to qmake about this issues with the madde sdk | 10:59 |
| lbt | sudo enter-chroot.sh <path> | 10:59 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:59 |
| slaine | lbt, k | 10:59 |
| lbt | I'm tweaking the docs here to clarify | 11:00 |
| slaine | lbt, ok, I'm in | 11:00 |
| lbt | OK, when you exit it goes to a root shell | 11:01 |
| lbt | then next time it exits | 11:01 |
| lbt | so try that | 11:01 |
| slaine | yup | 11:01 |
| slaine | cleanly unmounted too | 11:01 |
| lbt | actually I fixed sudo so I'll remove that 2nd root shell | 11:01 |
| lbt | good | 11:01 |
| slaine | didn't run anything. | 11:01 |
| lbt | re-enter and do "osc ls" | 11:01 |
| slaine | Hmmm | 11:02 |
| lbt | aw :( | 11:03 |
| lbt | that should have worked (unless you're in a proxy place?) | 11:03 |
| slaine | nope | 11:03 |
| slaine | lbt, http://pastie.org/3379950 | 11:03 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: no http://pastie.org/3379953 | 11:03 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ah you found out yourself :) | 11:03 |
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| lbt | slaine: so | 11:04 |
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| lbt | slaine: so you should be in a bind mount of your home | 11:04 |
| lbt | can you check that? | 11:04 |
| slaine | Oh that's all fine, I checked that before, sorry, thought I'd said | 11:04 |
| lbt | OK - so why can't it see .oscrc ? | 11:05 |
| slaine | I'm chroot'd in properly, that's working. | 11:05 |
| slaine | I don't have one on this machine, it's a virgin setup | 11:05 |
| lbt | *headdesk* | 11:05 |
| slaine | That's the whole point isn't it, we're testing it. | 11:05 |
| lbt | kinda :) | 11:05 |
| lbt | I was checking it works inside a normal pre-configured desktop | 11:06 |
| slaine | the default .oscrc that gets generated should point to the cobs I guess | 11:06 |
| lbt | nah - we're not to that level of polish yet - but it's a good point | 11:06 |
| slaine | So the command in the docs should get osc pointed there for it's first run. | 11:06 |
| slaine | nod | 11:06 |
| lbt | so my initial intent is to allow people who have a working osc to simply enter the chroot and work there | 11:07 |
| slaine | right | 11:07 |
| slaine | my intent was got get setup from scratch. | 11:07 |
| slaine | cross purposes | 11:07 |
| lbt | can you try to unpack this on your normal working machine? | 11:07 |
| slaine | What I'll probably do is copy the oscrc from there to here. | 11:08 |
| lbt | OK, sure | 11:08 |
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| slaine | I'll take a look at that after lunch | 11:08 |
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| lbt | alterego: ping ...where's the wiki gone? :) | 11:18 |
| alterego | It's gone? | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: go to wiki.merproject.org | 11:20 |
| alterego | Sorry :o | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, no problem, just wondering what happened :) | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | can you do an export of the wiki somehow so we have an external backup? | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | in case you get run over by a bus | 11:21 |
| alterego | Sure, do we have an FTP site or something I can automate my backups to? | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | ideally we should just get the transfer done to mer infra i guess | 11:22 |
| lbt | actually I'd like to migrate it to our infra and give you a shell there | 11:22 |
| alterego | Alternatively I could make it available via http and one of you guys can automate a wget or something. | 11:22 |
| alterego | Sure | 11:22 |
| alterego | Let me just figure out why this "simple" update to apache has screwed the vhost. | 11:23 |
| lbt | I setup the ldap etc with islam so it's easier now :) | 11:23 |
| alterego | Okay, looks like I've fixed it now. Sorry about that. | 11:26 |
| lbt | np - thanks for the quick response :) | 11:26 |
| alterego | Shall we pencil in getting the wiki into infra for Thursday? | 11:27 |
| alterego | I should be able to do it anytime thursday. | 11:27 |
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| lbt | yes | 11:28 |
| alterego | Cool | 11:28 |
| alterego | I'll make a note of it. | 11:28 |
| alterego | Out of curiosity, it's off topic, but has anyone had any luck in getting avahi to somehow work with windows computers? | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | add apple rendezvous? | 11:30 |
| alterego | I want a way that maybe uses plain NetBIOS for hostname resolution. | 11:31 |
| alterego | I don't want to have to install anything on the windows clients. | 11:31 |
| lbt | we should have smb stuff for sure | 11:31 |
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| stskeepsie | lbt: hetzner having issues for you too? | 12:02 |
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| lbt | yes | 12:06 |
| stskeepsie | ok | 12:06 |
| lbt | happened a few days ago too | 12:06 |
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| Stskeeps | i suspect it's somehow related to all the problems with freenode and network connectivity | 12:07 |
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| Stskeeps | let's postpone meeting ~15 minutes until it calms down? | 12:07 |
| lbt | sane | 12:08 |
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| lilstevie | someone highlighted me? | 12:09 |
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| lbt | Hetzner is OK now | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:15 |
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| Stskeeps | okay, Mer release management in #mer-meeting | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | +meeting | 12:26 |
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| heapy | is this the channel to be in for spark tablet related news? | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | here or #active :) | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | we're just the engine room on base system side | 12:47 |
| heapy | cheers :D | 12:47 |
| heapy | i just watched the linux action show, and am super excited about the release of the spark | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | hehe :) | 12:49 |
| InformatiQ | i am running systemd inside an lxc container, and starting getty@tty1.service always failes | 12:49 |
| InformatiQ | [root@f16 ~]# systemctl status dev-tty1.mount | 12:49 |
| InformatiQ | dev-tty1.mount - /dev/tty1 | 12:49 |
| InformatiQ | Loaded: loaded | 12:49 |
| InformatiQ | Active: active (mounted) since Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:21:49 -0500; 14min ago | 12:49 |
| InformatiQ | Where: /dev/tty1 | 12:49 |
| InformatiQ | What: devpts | 12:49 |
| InformatiQ | CGroup: name=systemd:/f16/system/dev-tty1.mount | 12:49 |
| InformatiQ | [root@f16 ~]# systemctl status dev-tty1.device | 12:49 |
| InformatiQ | dev-tty1.device | 12:49 |
| InformatiQ | Loaded: loaded | 12:50 |
| InformatiQ | Active: inactive (dead) | 12:50 |
| InformatiQ | AFAIK the device unit is based on udev | 12:50 |
| heapy | am at work atm, just thought i'd pop buy to see if there was any news ;) | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | heapy: best place to follow is aseigo's blog | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | InformatiQ: sure lxc has tty1 and not some obscure ttylxc stuff? | 12:50 |
| InformatiQ | i had to disable udev (masking it wuth dev/null) to get the system to start because lxc does something to block events and udev from working properly | 12:51 |
| InformatiQ | errr | 12:51 |
| InformatiQ | wrong channeö | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 12:51 |
| InformatiQ | ;) | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | i was wondering when you'd notice ;) | 12:51 |
| InformatiQ | i am getting too tired with that stuff | 12:51 |
| heapy | Stskeeps: thanks am on that now! :) | 12:51 |
| InformatiQ | i had left it behind but now got back to iyt as i am testing boss | 12:51 |
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| Stskeeps | heapy: if you'd like to know more about the machine room, the core, then here is the best :) | 12:55 |
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| lbt | hey InformatiQ | 12:56 |
| lbt | WTF have you been? | 12:56 |
| InformatiQ | lbt: trying to stay sane with al the empty time on my hand | 12:58 |
| InformatiQ | :) | 12:58 |
| lbt | InformatiQ: hehe ... nice problem to have | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | someone is implying he has free time? quick, grab the tasks list! | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 12:59 |
| InformatiQ | lbt: how's it going with you? | 13:00 |
| lbt | InformatiQ: rather good | 13:00 |
| lbt | Mer is generating a lot of interest | 13:01 |
| lbt | and, maybe more importantly, keeping promises | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | (ish) | 13:02 |
| * Stskeeps glances at delayed release | 13:02 | |
| lbt | we promised to release... not *when* | 13:02 |
| lbt | :D | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | hehe ;) | 13:02 |
| lbt | although I think I'm glad it's not "when it's ready" | 13:02 |
| lbt | InformatiQ: we have an SDK approach too | 13:03 |
| lbt | which links in to your desktop | 13:03 |
| lbt | (and actually if you want to play with lxc that may be a candidate) | 13:03 |
| lbt | .... Happy Birthday matrixx .... | 13:05 |
| matrixx | lbt: thanks :) | 13:05 |
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| ali1234 | lbt: my mer login is still messed up. looks like i still have some account in the bugzilla but not the ldap... so i can't reuse my email address. could you have a look please? | 13:05 |
| lbt | ok | 13:06 |
| InformatiQ | lbt: that would be good as i still have lxc fresh in my head | 13:07 |
| InformatiQ | i have been trying out the releases from nemo and also tried the plasma on my wetab | 13:07 |
| InformatiQ | i can't wait for a tablet UI | 13:07 |
| InformatiQ | i hate the current ones in the market | 13:08 |
| lbt | InformatiQ: OK - there's an SDK rootfs here: https://img.merproject.org/images/ | 13:08 |
| lbt | also a script (slightly old) | 13:08 |
| timoph | and a copy of it (~) :) | 13:09 |
| lbt | hehe | 13:10 |
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| InformatiQ | grabbing it | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: https for images? | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:22 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: nah, for IMG ... not finished that yet | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:23 |
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| Macer | wth | 14:22 |
| sledges | netsplit | 14:23 |
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| stskeepsie | i think the internet is telling us to get off our collective asses and go have a good valentines day | 14:24 |
| stskeepsie | :P | 14:24 |
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| sledges | :) | 14:25 |
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| Cwalle | stskeepsie!! are you Stskeep's fan ? | 14:30 |
| stskeepsie | no, just stskeeps without his server | 14:30 |
| stskeepsie | :P | 14:30 |
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| Cwalle | hohooo | 14:30 |
| lbt | nah, he's a wannabe | 14:30 |
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| lbt | see | 14:30 |
| lbt | that's the real one | 14:30 |
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| * lbt twiddles thumbs | 14:31 | |
| lbt | and pings hetzner | 14:31 |
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| Cwalle | yeah, which ID is Carsten Munk's | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | i think it's a backbone issue somewhere | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: i (and stskeepsie) is carsten munk | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:31 |
| Cwalle | Oooo | 14:32 |
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| Cwalle | It is you!!! | 14:32 |
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| lbt | we tried to clone him but it broke the internet | 14:32 |
| Cwalle | I just know that! | 14:32 |
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| Cwalle | Stskeeps: remember that patch you gave me to fix my kernel issue? | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: yes | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | did it apply? | 14:33 |
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| Cwalle | I got some strange errors | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | like what? | 14:35 |
| Cwalle | E...., wait a moment | 14:36 |
| lbt | Denise suggested checking for cats walking on the keyboard... that can account for strange errors. | 14:36 |
| _av500_ | and Paula? | 14:37 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps: first i got these http://pastie.org/3381115 errors while patching | 14:37 |
| lbt | _av500_: yeah, for sure | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: okay, doesn't like it didn't apply well | 14:38 |
| Cwalle | then my kernel complain that that is undefined reference to `console_sysfs_notify' | 14:38 |
| lbt | Cwalle: see lines 12 14 15 | 14:39 |
| lbt | ? | 14:39 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps: i used the root to patch | 14:40 |
| Cwalle | the prink.c is ok | 14:40 |
| Cwalle | but the tty_io.c can't be patched! | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | wonder why | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | can you look at the .rej files? | 14:42 |
| Cwalle | yeah | 14:42 |
| Cwalle | like: http://pastie.org/3381144 | 14:42 |
| Cwalle | it seems patch not completed | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | what kernel version was it | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 14:44 |
| Cwalle | 2.6.35-32-generic | 14:45 |
| lbt | Hetzner: Unfortunately, there have been issues with the core switches. Our technicians are working hard to resolve the situation | 14:45 |
| Cwalle | Strangely, there is no tty_io.c in driver/tty/ | 14:46 |
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| Stskeeps | Cwalle: awkward | 14:47 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps:any idea ? | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: i'll have to look at that some other day | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: well at least its not power cuts | 14:48 |
| lbt | :) | 14:48 |
| Cwalle | ok, it is too late for me now(11:00pm) | 14:48 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps: anytime you figure out what's wrong, please let me know | 14:50 |
| Cwalle | and good night everyone! | 14:51 |
| Stskeeps | nite | 14:51 |
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| lbt | yay .... ees bak | 14:57 |
| * lbt stabs OBS in the eye | 14:59 | |
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| lbt | it seems to now require ruby-daemons | 14:59 |
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| lbt | which only builds against 12.1 | 14:59 |
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| Stskeeps | ask adrian? | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | sounds awkward | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | heh, that's funny | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | a day made of glass 2 narration talks about 'open operating systems' too | 15:04 |
| lbt | link | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | you didn't see those? | 15:05 |
| lbt | yeah ... not v2 | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZkHpNnXLB0 first, then the narration (very useful), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-GXO_urMow | 15:05 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: #nemomobile ;) | 15:20 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: we should probably remove this patch from Mer http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/xdg-utils.git;a=blob;f=meego_browsers.patch;h=ddff4c635cf3a0a3078d36271bf07ac8573e50ac;hb=HEAD | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:21 |
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| Stskeeps | no objections from me | 15:23 |
| * Sage_ makes a patch | 15:24 | |
| Sage_ | done | 15:25 |
| Sage_ | need to look into the shared-mime-info more but I think we can drop those defaults to totem etc. as Mer should not make selections in UI side. | 15:26 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:28 |
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| Stskeeps | "The 60-computer build farm used to build the Fedora ARM software on which the remix is based" | 15:32 |
| * Stskeeps hugs mer | 15:32 | |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: cbe/cfe is 11.4, right? | 15:35 |
| lbt | yes | 15:36 |
| lbt | I'd go to 12.1 but... | 15:36 |
| lbt | then we'd have to upgrade ci and cobs | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | no 12.1 yet | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | adrian even isn't happy yet about it :P | 15:37 |
| lbt | good | 15:37 |
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| lbt | mmm | 15:37 |
| lbt | if we end up with phosts with > 3Tb disks then we'll need 12.1 on them apparently | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 15:38 |
| lbt | >2Tb even | 15:39 |
| lbt | we may not due to pxe | 15:39 |
| lbt | not important | 15:39 |
| lbt | I hate zypper | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | rubygem-daemons doesn't seem terribly important | 15:40 |
| lbt | it fails at first dependency ... | 15:40 |
| lbt | so you have to iterate package by package | 15:40 |
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| Stskeeps | fail fast? | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:41 |
| lbt | fail stupid :) | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | spark makes it to itworld, http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/249482/evanescence-linux | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | of course misunderstand what really runs, but.. ;) | 15:43 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: we won't have OBS up today | 15:57 |
| lbt | I thought it was all done but half the packages are missing | 15:57 |
| lbt | it's not just a copypac either | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | is this because of our tools copy, or? | 15:59 |
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| lbt | I didn't get a handover from islam | 16:00 |
| lbt | so I'm reading his wiki script and editing it | 16:00 |
| lbt | Our target should be to have a single repo that we use to install | 16:00 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Mer%3AOBS%3ATesting | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 16:01 |
| lbt | I notice it has no qemu yet | 16:01 |
| lbt | packaged for suse 11.4 | 16:01 |
| Stskeeps | from mer pov i don't care about qemu | 16:01 |
| Stskeeps | it's project-wide and even better now, in sb2 tools | 16:01 |
| lbt | mmm | 16:01 |
| lbt | we'd kill meego arm builds on c.obs | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | (and a dynamic binary) | 16:02 |
| lbt | and any old mer builds | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | we might have to add Hostarch: to some prjconfs | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | but that wasn't my idea | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:02 |
| lbt | which may not be a bad thing | 16:02 |
| lbt | yeah - that's an upgrade thing | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not saying not install a qemu, btw | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | just tat i don't use it in mer builds | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | and haven't since last buiold | 16:03 |
| lbt | no, but I need to find one :) | 16:03 |
| lbt | nb http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:Qemu | 16:04 |
| lbt | please feel free to edit | 16:04 |
| lbt | ok ... now I feel stupid | 16:05 |
| lbt | I thought these packages were not packaged for 11.4 | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | now? ;) | 16:05 |
| lbt | but apparently random ones are disablesd | 16:05 |
| lbt | :P | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | fixed page | 16:07 |
| lbt | you changed the template | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | .. | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | so did you | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | not sure what i did wrong :P | 16:09 |
| lbt | it looked wrong... not sure it is | 16:09 |
| lbt | missing the About category | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | well you showed me Category:Qemu which had text in it already | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/index.php?title=Category%3AQemu&diff=982&oldid=915 | 16:10 |
| lbt | ah | 16:10 |
| lbt | it was an old template | 16:10 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:Obs | 16:10 |
| lbt | missing the ] External Links header so it looked odd | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 16:11 |
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| lbt | finally.... it's about to install the api | 16:15 |
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| Stskeeps | \o/ | 16:33 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: where is the srpm files from mer releases btw? | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: bit controversial, but we don't have srpms as they don't represent in any way what actually is usable to rebuild the rpms.. | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:46 |
| Sage_ | ok, fairenough. | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | the git repos are what is the authorative sources | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | what are you trying to do? | 16:48 |
| Sage_ | https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/image-configurations/commit/ccf0a2ae5a7818b00402951ad90637ac1c3906f2 | 16:48 |
| Sage_ | cleanup :) | 16:48 |
| Sage_ | did: sed -i 's/enabled=0/enabled=1/g' /etc/zypp/repos.d/* | 16:49 |
| Sage_ | and result is well lot of errors as those repos do not exist :) | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 16:49 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... probably time to call it a day. | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | have a good evening | 17:07 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: progress finally? | 17:09 |
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| lbt | yes | 17:11 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 17:12 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i think the issue on -ci is the fact you don't have an account on there, at all | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | so i can't exactly reset your password | 17:51 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: that would in fact explain it | 18:00 |
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| Stskeeps | uh-huh | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:05 |
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| Stskeeps | meego sdk contains recipes how to bootstrap a meego arm / x86 target with glibc etc | 18:17 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: http://cpe.mitre.org/specification/ | 18:21 |
| _av500_ | Stskeeps: wtf is that? | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-release.html | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | scroll down to CPE_NAME | 18:23 |
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| lbt | where are you thinking we use this? | 18:30 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: you always seem to be wanting to check if a release has a certain vulnerability or something, so in my mind , this fit into that | 18:30 |
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| Stskeeps | ;P | 18:31 |
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| Stskeeps | :P | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | i mean | 18:31 |
| lbt | so mer release naming? | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | for example | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | and being able to denote using a certain mer release as upstream | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=404361 | 18:32 |
| * lbt was just making dns names .... so just checking | 18:32 | |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:32 |
| lbt | certainly seems reasonable | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | i'm a little unfocused at the moment so i'm taking the task from tomorrow on prepping working llvmpipe, so we can have mer VMs for x86 working with gles out of box | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | which is a strong proposition for developers | 18:35 |
| lbt | I'm just making cobs VMs | 18:36 |
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| lbt | just a bit of a grind really | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:36 |
| lbt | hmm mk_vm doesn't run zypper up | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | i got a mail back from one of the longsoon mips people btw | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | so i'll get a conversation started on what they could help with/what they are interested in | 18:38 |
| * lbt checks the wiki arch pages | 18:38 | |
| Stskeeps | i did fix that page | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson | 18:38 |
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| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_architecture_naming | 18:40 |
| lbt | it's OK - i has mips on it | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | i am pondering how much of a nightmare it gets if i do MIPS64 port | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: loongson is RMS approved, btw | 18:42 |
| lbt | really | 18:43 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: so what was end result with sdk before you started fighting with obs | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 18:56 |
| lbt | it worked but needed a couple of tweaks | 18:57 |
| lbt | I need to get the 'enter-chroot.sh' into the image | 18:57 |
| lbt | and I need to hack osc | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:58 |
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| lbt | gah.... I tweak the kvm /libvirt xml file to add an eth1 and it fails to boot any ifs | 18:59 |
| lbt | xen isn't so touchy | 18:59 |
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| lbt | and reverting it doesn't work | 19:00 |
| lbt | sweet | 19:00 |
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| Stskeeps | evening InformatiQ | 19:33 |
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| InformatiQ | hei steff | 19:36 |
| InformatiQ | Stskeeps: | 19:36 |
| InformatiQ | bleh tab completion | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 19:36 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: think i'll take an early evening, how are things on your end? | 19:55 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: not good - VMs won't see eth0/1 on reboot | 20:07 |
| lbt | but I may do the same in a while and hit it in the morning | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | CBE/CFE boots fine with the patches though, you're just setting up a worker , or | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 20:09 |
| lbt | just starting VMs | 20:09 |
| lbt | and now I'm trying a simple reboot | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:10 |
| lbt | for another vm | 20:10 |
| lbt | and that fails | 20:10 |
| lbt | so something up at the phost | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | didn't we discuss something awry when it was opensuse vms? | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | back when we set up CI | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | remember that there's some stupid stuff that changes interface names when MAC addys are different and so on | 20:12 |
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| lbt | it could be that | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | there's some guides to stop that from happening, i think | 20:15 |
| Venemo_N950 | hi :) | 20:15 |
| lbt | macs aren't changing though | 20:16 |
| lbt | I checked | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | maybe order | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | or something similarly silly | 20:17 |
| lbt | maybe | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, bbl | 20:18 |
| lbt | OK l8r | 20:18 |
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| omicron23 | Hi there. I want to try mer with plasma-active on my n900. Is there any information available on how to achieve this? | 20:49 |
| Venemo_N950 | omicron23, PA isn't suited for such a screen size, however you can download their ARM image (if any) and use the generic Mer for N900 instructions. | 20:50 |
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| omicron23 | Venemo_N950: thanks. What would be the generic information for "Mer for N900"? I found two links on the wiki community workspace but do not really know what to do with them. | 20:52 |
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| ali1234 | but... the spark has a 800x480 screen | 21:47 |
| ali1234 | and the n900 has a 800x480 screen | 21:47 |
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| wmarone | and they've noted that the elements are a bit large for the screen | 22:03 |
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| Polesch | Always fantastic when Tux pop up on your mobile. | 23:38 |
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| Polesch | Is there a guide for installing Nemo on the root? (Not booting it from the memory card) | 23:42 |
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