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| Stskeeps | morn | 06:29 |
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| timoph | morn | 06:32 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: so it seems like we'll start by bootstrapping the sdk tools within cobs at first | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | we had some discussion yesterday | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | and then just extract it into a mer release | 06:47 |
| timoph | sounds good | 06:47 |
| timoph | so bake a rootfs, build and install tools and go | 06:48 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 06:48 |
| timoph | what's the sdk tools repo in cobs? | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120209.0.0.3/builds/i586/packages/i586/ has qemu-usermode, qemu-usermode-static etc now | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | Mer:Tools / Mer:Tools:Testing i think | 06:49 |
| timoph | I'm thinking can we do all the rootfs setup in a .ks file or does it need additional magic | 06:51 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i think we can do all the magic in a .ks and provide that | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | ie, the .ks and a tarball | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | maybe enter-chroot aloneside | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | or within | 06:52 |
| timoph | yep. that's what I was thinking | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | i guess within makes sense | 06:52 |
| timoph | keeps the thing simple | 06:52 |
| timoph | ish | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | i think we can just put enter-chroot in the .ks's %post | 06:53 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2516 | 06:54 |
| timoph | :D | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | also, it's feb11 today | 06:57 |
| timoph | not sure if I got the purpose of doing mounting in %post | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | oh, i didn't say mounting | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | i said put enter-chroot.sh into / of the file system | 06:57 |
| timoph | ah. just got confused by the script's content :) | 06:58 |
| Stskeeps | cat > /enter-chroot.sh << EOF kind of thing | 06:58 |
| timoph | yeah. got it now :) | 06:58 |
| timoph | thought you wanted to execute it there :) | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/11/foursquare-adds-nfc-support-for-android-4-0-wants-to-touch-base/ | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | 8 months later and people start checking in with QR tags/nfc tags like i proposed in grande, heh | 07:00 |
| timoph | :) | 07:00 |
| * Stskeeps really needs to learn how to capitalise his ideas ;) | 07:00 | |
| timoph | yeah. I've noted that even if you think that the idea isn't worth implementing someone else will like it. | 07:02 |
| timoph | happened to me a couple of times. | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | i have on occasion considered to utilize the thing that nokia has with patents and ideas, ie, you keep it secret and they try to see if it's patentable, and pay you a one-time thing | 07:04 |
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| timoph | might be something worth trying out | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | (http://inventwithnokia.nokia.com/What-are-we-looking-for ) | 07:05 |
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| Stskeeps | wb | 07:34 |
| * Stskeeps is studying qtonpi | 07:41 | |
| timoph | Pi will make a nice test bed for Mer | 07:42 |
| * timoph can't wait to get his hands on it | 07:42 | |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | i think there would be more interest in qtonpi if people understood wtf they have actually made | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | and what's published already | 07:43 |
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| timoph | yeah | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | it's a fairly minimal qt5 stack | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | of course i plan on being able to beat that architectually and use-case wise with mer, but .. :) | 07:43 |
| timoph | I really should start getting familiar with Qt5 | 07:43 |
| timoph | :) | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | morn araujo, how are things? | 07:45 |
| * Stskeeps ponders what to work on today | 07:49 | |
| Stskeeps | timoph: so what's your plans today? | 07:50 |
| * timoph asks the better half if she's got anything planned before answering | 07:51 | |
| Stskeeps | mine's gone until 5pm :P | 07:51 |
| timoph | ok. I have time and nothing special planned | 07:56 |
| timoph | she's planning to go skiing | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | i'm wondering if we should get started on some skeleton platform SDK documentation and then fill in the gaps | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | ie, download this tarball, untar it as root, run enter-chroot.. | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | what you can do inside it.. etc | 07:57 |
| timoph | sounds like a plan | 07:57 |
| timoph | documentation driven development :p | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | that's a new one | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | you should patent that ;) | 07:58 |
| timoph | :D | 07:58 |
| timoph | but yeah. I'll be ready to start in about 15 to 30 mins | 08:00 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm not yet at cruising altitude of my caffeine levels either | 08:02 |
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| Stskeeps | morn vgrade1 | 08:18 |
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| timoph | Stskeeps: ok. so do we start adding the docs to the platform sdk wiki page or do a separate page for the manual? | 08:42 |
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| Stskeeps | i think we can start out at the wiki page | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | or Platform_SDK/Documentation | 08:42 |
| timoph | ok. usage subsection it is | 08:42 |
| timoph | hmmh. | 08:42 |
| timoph | the whole thing needs a bit of restructuring | 08:42 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning sonach | 08:53 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: morning,too! | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | i don't have anything new on busybox side just yet, i've been busy with some work regarding cross compilation | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | we're working a bit on platform SDK this weekend as well, me, lbt, timoph and phaeron | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | what are the big problems you're having at the moment? | 08:56 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: No big problems at the moment. We can test the busybox stuff when you have time. We change the FLASH to 256MB for all boards now. | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:59 |
| timoph | ok. did a little topic level restructuring on the page | 08:59 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 08:59 | |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Anyway, the footprint stuff is very important. If we can run our OS on 128MB FLASH, that will be great! | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | add "Building an image" | 08:59 |
| * timoph adds | 09:00 | |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yeah, i want to make it smaller too, the smaller the OS, the more space for content | 09:00 |
| vgrade1 | morning, bowling, back soon | 09:00 |
| phaeron | good morning | 09:05 |
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| timoph | hmmh. do we (want to) have a fixed link for a stable sdk rootfs? | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | i think we will have one with /latest/ | 09:19 |
| timoph | good | 09:19 |
| timoph | helps to put that into the docs so no need to update the links all the time | 09:20 |
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| Stskeeps | /names | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | er | 09:48 |
| timoph | I'm a bit worried about documenting stuff that isn't there yet | 10:00 |
| timoph | might cause some confusion.. | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | just write a big fat DRAFT | 10:03 |
| timoph | ah. that solves it :) | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | the more it says draft the more motivated we are to fix it instead of going off a tangent | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:04 |
| timoph | :) | 10:04 |
| timoph | added | 10:06 |
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| timoph | got a time table update. I have time until about 3pm EEST | 10:07 |
| timoph | so a good 3h | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, okay | 10:09 |
| lbt | morning all | 10:15 |
| timoph | o/ | 10:16 |
| * timoph is trying to picture how to document compilation with the sdk | 10:17 | |
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| timoph | there's two parts - with sb2 and without it | 10:17 |
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| lbt | timoph: go for normal vs cross | 10:18 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: or are we usin sb2 for x86? | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | errrrrr.. hmmmmm | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:19 |
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| Stskeeps | ideally we'll have same strategy.. | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | it isn't impossible, at all | 10:19 |
| timoph | I'd still add some note about being able to compile without sb2 | 10:20 |
| lbt | that's what struck me - more "why not" for consistencies sake | 10:21 |
| * lbt goes back to the git->OBS layer for sdk | 10:21 | |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: so you have an instance of obs up anywhere with my patches? | 10:29 |
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| lbt | we're going for cfe.merproject.org | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok, that sounds wise | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | test out with fakeobs? | 10:30 |
| lbt | yes | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:31 |
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| * lbt tweets the SDK challenge | 10:33 | |
| lbt | timoph: so ... where's the docs? | 10:33 |
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| timoph | the platform sdk wiki page :) | 10:40 |
| * lbt looks for "how to make an sdk rootfs" | 10:40 | |
| Stskeeps | using another sdk, duh | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 10:41 |
| * lbt stabs Stskeeps with a sharpened belgium waffle | 10:41 | |
| Stskeeps | bootstrap sdks :) | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | you have a .ks at the page, start with that, the idea is that we'll give out a tarball of a prebuilt one | 10:42 |
| lbt | actually we need info on using Mer:Tools:Testing vs Mer:Tools | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | first manually built, then built with sdk | 10:42 |
| lbt | agreed - but we also want the dev process | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:42 |
| lbt | also we only have a link to the static ,ks | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:43 |
| lbt | did anyone make a git repo yet? | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | because erm, someone didn't want to let me put kickstarter in core | 10:43 |
| lbt | agreed :) | 10:43 |
| lbt | we have mer-tools now | 10:43 |
| lbt | is that a good place? | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | better, yes | 10:44 |
| joroi | is this a real error or do I miss something "failed to create image : Failed to build transaction : libXcursor-1.1.12-1.2.i586 requires /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache"? | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/mer-kickstarter-configs.git;a=tree | 10:44 |
| joroi | on libXcursor.spec is: Requires(post): %{_bindir}/gtk-update-icon-cache | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | joroi: upgrade your spectacle | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 10:44 |
| * Stskeeps ponders where sage put that patc | 10:45 | |
| Stskeeps | h | 10:45 |
| lbt | Mer:Tools:Testing ? | 10:45 |
| lbt | no | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | joroi: basically spectacle adds gtk-update-icon-cache and we don't have gtk in core | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | joroi: is that your own package or something from mer? | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | ok, mer bug | 10:47 |
| joroi | that's my own package, which has libXcursor as a dep | 10:47 |
| timoph | so about the sb2 setup.. quessing we'll be offering predefined targets named something like armv7hl, armv6, x86, etc. | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | joroi: i'll just file a bug | 10:47 |
| lbt | teach a man to fish... | 10:48 |
| lbt | joroi: would you like to file a merproject bug? | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | i need to find spectacle fix first ;) | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | also, too late | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:48 |
| lbt | :P | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172 | 10:48 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: where is your spectacle gtk-update-icon-cache patch? | 10:49 |
| lbt | so for the sdk .ks - do we want to mix any other .ks together or simply have an sdk .ks git repo? | 10:50 |
| lbt | mer-tools/sdk sounds reasonable | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | i'd say a derived from kickstarter configs thing | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | keep in mind we don't want a static .ks, we want a kickstarter yaml to keep it in sync with rest of mer core | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | that generates .ks'es | 10:51 |
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| lbt | agreed | 10:52 |
| timoph | sounds sane | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | fits the N and N+1 story better, too | 10:54 |
| lbt | so ... do we keep vc of the SDK discrete | 10:54 |
| lbt | I think we do | 10:54 |
| lbt | but to build it we need to define the version of the core yamls to incorporate | 10:54 |
| lbt | (and yes, I do keep saying .ks repo when I should say .yaml) | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | btw, N and N+1.. what cross compiler to use? N+1 or N? | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:55 |
| lbt | M ? | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | .. | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:56 |
| lbt | is cross in core? | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:56 |
| lbt | N then | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | and SDK should match the toolchain in the core it targets | 10:56 |
| lbt | OK making mer-tools/sdk in 3 | 10:57 |
| lbt | 2 | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | erm.. | 10:57 |
| lbt | 1 | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | bad name | 10:57 |
| lbt | OK | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | what is the purpose? | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | kickstarter configs? | 10:57 |
| lbt | no, just the yaml/ks to make the .ks for the sdk | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | that's kickstarter configs | 10:57 |
| lbt | so it's in the same repo as all the core stuff | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | no? | 10:58 |
| lbt | ah, I misunderstood the objection | 10:58 |
| lbt | you just don't like the name | 10:58 |
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| Stskeeps | okay, so, buildrequires: mer-kickstarter-configs, place in mer:tools*, add own kickstarter configs that inherits from mer-kickstarter-configs to generate .ks'es for sdk | 10:58 |
| lbt | mer-tools/sdk-ks | 10:59 |
| lbt | wasn't even sure if this was a package | 10:59 |
| Stskeeps | it is | 10:59 |
| lbt | it builds an rpm ? | 10:59 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:59 |
| lbt | don't see why | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | okay.. try to visualize it backwards | 11:00 |
| lbt | it's just a yaml/ks that I feed to mic | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | mic doesn't take kickstarter configs | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | mic takes kickstart (.ks) files, .ks is generated by .yaml | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | (by kickstarter) | 11:01 |
| lbt | yes | 11:01 |
| lbt | so I need mic and kickstarter to make an sdk rootfs | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | right | 11:02 |
| lbt | I also need access to all the mer core yamls to expand | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | right, mer-kickstarter-configs | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | (in core) | 11:02 |
| lbt | do they need to be 'installed' using rpm or are they pulled from http repos | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | so, we can build the .ks'es (the files) in OBS just fine, or just install mer-kickstarter-configs and sdk-kickstarter-configs and generate a .ks with platform sdk | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | two ways | 11:04 |
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| lbt | OK | 11:04 |
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| Stskeeps | first one you'd have to rpm2cpio the .ks'es out of it, second one you have to boot up platform sdk | 11:05 |
| lbt | the yamls seem to be making the .ks creation process more convoluted | 11:05 |
| lbt | I agree they manage grouping well | 11:05 |
| lbt | but this is sounding awfully over-complex | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | 'seem', yes, but in practice they are configuration management | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | .ks'es can't follow an upstream | 11:05 |
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| Stskeeps | and .ks is one-target-one-release practically | 11:06 |
| lbt | I do understand - but I'm seeing reproducability becoming very hard | 11:07 |
| lbt | I'm kinda tempted to vc the results of running kickstarted | 11:07 |
| lbt | r | 11:07 |
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| lbt | ok - what to call the git repo? | 11:08 |
| lbt | mer-tools/sdk-ks | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | we're trying to make kickstarter configurations first, right | 11:09 |
| lbt | yes, that needs to be vc'ed | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | agreed, so, mer-tools/sdk-kickstarter-configs , contains only .yaml files, requires: mer-kickstarter-configs | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | i just want to show you what i did once, sec | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=mer-kickstarter-configs.spec&package=mer-kickstarter-configs&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Atools&srcmd5=3e7be0d4dd6793345173eb2bfc99c496 | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=mer-reference-kickstarts.spec&package=mer-reference-kickstarts&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Atools&srcmd5=28753facc1fbf27e69e5075f47441ff3 | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | first one is yaml | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | second one generates .ks'es | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | second one you can do in OBS, or do within platform sdk, i don't have any particular opinions | 11:13 |
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| lbt | ok | 11:15 |
| lbt | lets see how it goes | 11:15 |
| lbt | in MINT the heavy cycle made iteration difficult and hurt QA - I may be overcompensating from that | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:16 |
| lbt | the basic "we use yaml and inherit" is totall sane | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | http://liliputing.com/2012/02/this-is-what-the-265-spark-linux-tablet-looks-like-video.html | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | good advertisement | 11:22 |
| timoph | yep | 11:24 |
| timoph | the sdk wiki page could use a sanity check | 11:33 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: ah, clever idea with preconfiguration | 11:44 |
| vgrade | cold out there this morning, what to do today | 11:46 |
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| Stskeeps | hello cynamoon | 11:48 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: thanks. | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: though we might need a create-target kind of thing | 11:48 |
| cynamoon | Hello everyones | 11:49 |
| timoph | yep | 11:49 |
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| timoph | I didn't think too much of how instead of what would be handy | 11:49 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:50 |
| timoph | oh. I need to go. I'll be around later in the evening | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | see you | 11:51 |
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| Termana | yello | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | yello termana | 11:53 |
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| lbt | so Stskeeps... one problem I have with https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=00reference.yaml&package=mer-kickstarter-configs&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Atools&srcmd5=3e7be0d4dd6793345173eb2bfc99c496 is that when I add a stanza that says "AMD Athlon" it doesn't magically work | 12:20 |
| lbt | it's very very magical | 12:20 |
| lbt | the spec doesn't depend on anything ... so I have no clues as to where to look | 12:21 |
| lbt | there's no links or docs | 12:21 |
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| lbt | it makes it very hard to do any incremental work | 12:22 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: well you naturally need to build image(s) utilizing that change | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | and yes, documentation is missing | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | it should be there | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=00base.yaml&package=mer-kickstarter-configs&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Atools&srcmd5=3e7be0d4dd6793345173eb2bfc99c496 | 12:24 |
| lbt | yes | 12:24 |
| lbt | doesn't mention SSSE3 | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | it does mention SSSE3 | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:24 |
| lbt | gah | 12:25 |
| lbt | I was reading descriptions | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 12:25 |
| lbt | ok, my apologies | 12:25 |
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| lbt | lack of documentation is rude | 12:42 |
| * phaeron runs away | 12:42 | |
| lbt | yeah, that's how I feel | 12:42 |
| lbt | sure I can follow code... but we don't even use bloody git properly so I can't browse a remote repo ... have to download the tarball, unpack and then look at the code | 12:43 |
| lbt | and that code sucks ass | 12:43 |
| _av500_ | so better leave it in the tar ball | 12:44 |
| _av500_ | and add feathers | 12:44 |
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| lbt | well, technically I do - I use emacs to browse the tarball :) | 12:44 |
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| Stskeeps | https://github.com/jfding | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | 'mic' is pretty well developed | 13:40 |
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| phaeron | github not responding .. :D | 13:47 |
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| Stskeeps | is it monday yet? | 13:53 |
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| phaeron | it's back already , only few minutes down | 14:07 |
| HUELK | hi | 14:10 |
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| Stskeeps | hi HUELK | 14:12 |
| HUELK | Stskeeps: salute 0> | 14:14 |
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| Stskeeps | hello merious :) | 14:20 |
| merious | Hello there! | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | welcome :) so what brings you here? | 14:21 |
| merious | I was wondering if I could get some information about running Plasma Active on the Archos G9 Tablet. | 14:23 |
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| Stskeeps | merious: i think there's a page on basyskom's pages | 14:28 |
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| HUELK | im getting "failed to open /dev/kmsg for logging" i have CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y so why it is appearing is this a bug | 14:32 |
| merious | Thanks for the pointer Stskeeps | 14:34 |
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| Stskeeps | HUELK: probably a race condition as systemd starts udevd | 14:48 |
| HUELK | ah ok so i nvm | 14:49 |
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| Stskeeps | what kernel version / image? | 14:52 |
| matrixx | lbt: Stskeeps: Sage_: dm8tbr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/matriksi/6855918045/in/set-72157629269150643 :) | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | i can't wait to getting back to summer jackets | 14:55 |
| matrixx | me neither | 14:55 |
| matrixx | I could skip winter at all | 14:55 |
| HUELK | Stskeep: kernel version 3.2.2 image from this ks: http://pastebin.com/UsNKX7ah | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | HUELK: ok, should be okay | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | HUELK: file a bug on bugs.merproject.org please | 14:57 |
| HUELK | ok | 14:57 |
| HUELK | what size has the mer source code | 14:58 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, lbt, https://sprints.kde.org/sprint/80 | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:39 |
| vgrade | I was hoping to attend for a day. A good time to discuss future COBS? | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | maybe, but my march is a total unknown | 15:40 |
| vgrade | ok | 15:41 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: could you jot down the process for doing a couple of iterative hack/build cycles on mer-kickstarter-configs and verifying the effect by building the .ks files | 16:08 |
| lbt | assuming a few syntax errors and stuff | 16:09 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: bogna's about to come home so no guarantees | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | (read: cooking) | 16:14 |
| lbt | np - I only have another 30m myself | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | how's the git side of things looking? | 16:15 |
| lbt | rather tidy | 16:15 |
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| lbt | we can add an orphan packaging branch to either an upstream git tree or a pristine-tar tree | 16:16 |
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| lbt | that takes a sha1 pair and makes a tarball and patchset | 16:16 |
| lbt | can be a null patchset | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | i'd like to see how gerrit reacts to pristine-branch stuff | 16:17 |
| lbt | that will look like a checkout from our existing git trees | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | er, tar | 16:17 |
| lbt | yeah - gerrit's reaction is uncertain | 16:17 |
| lbt | I worry about what happens when I push a change with say 10 commits | 16:18 |
| lbt | but lets worry about that in a bit | 16:18 |
| * Stskeeps discovers dark dusty corners of rpm he can use | 16:21 | |
| * lbt shudders | 16:22 | |
| timoph | damn there's a weird looking guy in the mirror | 16:23 |
| * timoph shaved | 16:23 | |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | you must look almost human now ;) | 16:23 |
| timoph | almost :p | 16:23 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Kickstarter#Post_installation_scripts uses "PostScripts:" for both cases | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that's a fluke | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 16:59 |
| lbt | typo I assumed | 17:00 |
| * Stskeeps fixes | 17:00 | |
| lbt | ta | 17:01 |
| lbt | can we comment ythis yaml? | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | the mer one? | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | yes, we can | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | but i'm not going to do that now :P | 17:02 |
| lbt | no :) | 17:02 |
| lbt | I meant are comments permitted in the yaml | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | yes, they are | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | #'s | 17:03 |
| lbt | start of line only I guess | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | not so sure about that | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | i'd have to see the parser | 17:03 |
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| lbt | timoph: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=sdk-kickstarter-configs&project=home%3Albt%3Abranches%3AMer%3ATools%3ATesting | 17:34 |
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| Stskeeps | i need some obscure codename for a project, any good ideas? | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | it's for the toolchain-core split | 17:42 |
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| timoph | "obscurity" | 17:43 |
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| Stskeeps | mm nah | 17:43 |
| timoph | :) | 17:43 |
| timoph | lbt: any idea why that fails to build? Thinking it would be a easy way to provide the latest ks files in the sdk. | 17:56 |
| lbt | yat - yet another toolchain | 17:56 |
| timoph | one would just install to configs and build away | 17:56 |
| timoph | s/to/the/ | 17:56 |
| lbt | missing : on Mer internet connectivity line - d'oh | 17:57 |
| timoph | :) | 17:57 |
| lbt | pushing fix | 17:58 |
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| lbt | then off out (again) | 17:58 |
| timoph | cy | 17:58 |
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| araujo | Stskeeps, things go good here, how about you? :) | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | araujo: i'm good, just happy to be in one city more than a week.. | 18:18 |
| araujo | haha | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | <- sick of traveling for at least a few weeks | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:19 |
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| Sage_ | matrixx: :) | 19:16 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: that patch is in upstream | 19:17 |
| Sage_ | 0.23 version contains that patch | 19:17 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | so we should merge that into mer:tools | 19:17 |
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| Stskeeps | evening Meizirkki | 19:23 |
| Meizirkki | Hello Stskeeps | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | how's your weekend so far? | 19:23 |
| Meizirkki | good | 19:24 |
| Meizirkki | yours? | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | good, getting some hacking done i've been wanting to do for a while | 19:24 |
| Meizirkki | I finally got another n810 | 19:25 |
| Meizirkki | :P | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | well the other one was quite destroyed | 19:26 |
| Meizirkki | Which kicks ass comparing to Touchbook, android and ipod | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | touchbook i can believe ;) | 19:26 |
| Meizirkki | I was lucky to receive one :D | 19:26 |
| harbaum | I also still have a toucbook .... | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | should be able to run mer, i guess | 19:27 |
| harbaum | yeah, very likely. after all it's really close to the beagle | 19:27 |
| Meizirkki | There are many 7" ARM Cortex-A9 tablets for sale in dealextreme.. anybody here familiar with any of them? | 19:28 |
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| Stskeeps | many of them 'forget' to include kernel source | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | did you see Spark? | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | http://aseigo.blogspot.com/ | 19:29 |
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| Meizirkki_ | ffs i'm stupid | 19:31 |
| Meizirkki_ | I pulled off the modem to replug memorycard | 19:32 |
| Meizirkki_ | sorry | 19:32 |
| Meizirkki_ | did I miss anything after <Stskeeps> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/ | 19:32 |
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| Meizirkki_ | hmm. spark looks cool | 19:34 |
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| Stskeeps | mer-based, too | 19:38 |
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| merious | Hello all. I have a question and would appreciate your inputs. I have a QtQuick application which I would like to test on a tablet. What tablet would you suggest which is relatively inexpensive and fulfills the minimum conditions for running a QML application? | 19:57 |
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| Stskeeps | what country are you in? | 20:09 |
| merious | Who me? | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | for example if you were in US, nook color runs mer | 20:15 |
| RaYmAn | aren't there any cheap chinese tablets running Mer yet? =P | 20:16 |
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| merious | I am Germany | 20:20 |
| merious | We have the WeTab here that runs MeeGo but the pricing starts from 350 Euros | 20:21 |
| merious | I was wondering if I could find a tablet that can run some minimal linux distro and just run my application on that. | 20:22 |
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| merious | I thought that would be easy to find but doesn't seem like it.. :-( | 20:22 |
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| Stskeeps | merious: wetab runs mer too | 20:24 |
| merious | Yes.. but it is expensive.. | 20:24 |
| Stskeeps | check out wiki.merproject.org community workspace | 20:24 |
| Stskeeps | see what is useful there | 20:25 |
| merious | or let's put it this way, I can do with a tablet that is less powerful | 20:25 |
| merious | cool thanks.. I'll check it out | 20:25 |
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| vgrade | merious, RaspberryPi | 20:49 |
| vgrade | oh sorry , tablet | 20:49 |
| crevetor | hey vgrade there ? | 20:52 |
| crevetor | vgrade: what were you saying about evdev/mtdev yesterday ? | 20:54 |
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| vgrade | crevetor, just asked what you hade configured for input devices in xorg conf evdev or mtev | 20:58 |
| crevetor | vgrade: I have evdev but when I boot PA it says it's skipping my touchscreen because it's not a touch device... | 20:59 |
| vgrade | mtev seems to work for me with a few android tablets | 21:00 |
| crevetor | vgrade: is there a package somewhere ? | 21:00 |
| vgrade | yea just replace mtev with evdev in your kickstart and xorg | 21:01 |
| vgrade | sorry other way around | 21:01 |
| vgrade | could you pastie your ks? | 21:01 |
| crevetor | vgrade: I don't have a ks yet, I'm putting together bits and pieces :) | 21:05 |
| vgrade | ok , let me do a search for it | 21:07 |
| vgrade | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9 | 21:08 |
| crevetor | vgrade: I found it | 21:11 |
| crevetor | vgrade: Now it seems it added it to the devices it listens to but I can't interact with the interface | 21:11 |
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| crevetor | vgrade: Ok I was able to get it to work. But PA ends up crashing | 21:16 |
| crevetor | I'll build a full clean dist and see if that works better. Thanks for your help | 21:16 |
| vgrade | no probs | 21:19 |
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| HUELK | can someone provide me a link how to setup connman from console | 21:45 |
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| HUELK | Stskeep: i have mer up on slate 500 | 21:56 |
| phaeron | you mean how to make it connect ? | 21:59 |
| vgrade | HUELK, have you tried /usr/lib/connman/test/connect-service <SSID> <Password> | 22:08 |
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| crevetor | vgrade: still there ? | 22:18 |
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| vgrade | crevetor, yea | 22:31 |
| crevetor | I'm trying to create an image using mic-image-creator | 22:33 |
| crevetor | but in the bootstrap process it tries to grab ia32 packages instead of i586 | 22:33 |
| crevetor | I get : Error: Failed to create bootstrap : URLGrabber error: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 : http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/ia32/packages//repodata/repomd.xml : http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/ia32/packages//repodata/repomd.xml | 22:34 |
| vgrade | what guide are you using? | 22:35 |
| vgrade | there has been some new documentation so we should be using that | 22:36 |
| crevetor | this : http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation | 22:36 |
| vgrade | I think there is Mer stuff now on the mer wiki, sec | 22:36 |
| crevetor | ok | 22:37 |
| vgrade | http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Image_Creation, not sure how different it is but if we find problems with that we can raise bugs | 22:38 |
| vgrade | so looks like sudo mic-create-bootstrap -n trunk -k /your/repo/cache/path -r http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/latest/repos/oss/ia32/packages/ -o /your/final/bootstrap to buld the bootstrap | 22:39 |
| vgrade | then udo mic-image-creator --bootstrap=/your/final/bootstrap --format=livecd --config=default.ks --cache=/your/repo/cache/path to build the image | 22:39 |
| crevetor | I'll try that out | 22:39 |
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| Venemo_N950 | hey | 23:10 |
| Venemo_N950 | my Mer T-shirt is awesome! | 23:10 |
| crevetor | How do I do if I want to buy one ? | 23:14 |
| Venemo_N950 | crevetor, a guy was selling them a few weeks ago, not sure if he still has some or not | 23:15 |
| crevetor | Venemo_N950: did you get yours at fosdem ? | 23:16 |
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| Venemo_N950 | crevetor, no, he was kind enough to send it to me | 23:18 |
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