Thursday, 2012-02-09

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ali1234also you can use qemu-n90000:02
ali1234to watch what it is writing to memory00:02
ali1234both u-boot and the kernel00:02
ali1234although the hardware emulation isn't very faithful to the real thing00:02
ali1234ugh. don't you have a git repo somewhere?00:03
ali1234i can't work with OBS00:03
Netweaver_There should be a mirror git repo somewhere. But I didn't use/needed it yet. OBS made my trials/kernel building very easy ...00:05
ali1234how can you even say that?00:06
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ali1234every time you make a change you have to generate a patch, add it to the spec, rerun a bunch of magic scripts that do god knows what, and then wait an hour for rpmbuild to make a chroot and then recompile the whole kernel from scratch00:08
netweaver:) blissfull ignorance on my side I guess ... I managed to include my patches and build complete kernel in no time. Rebuilding was v fast00:08
netweavermy requirements were simple...00:09
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netweaverno manual scripts were needed, rebuilding starts the moment you add/modify a file. And a few minutes later one has the RPM available.00:10
ali1234you have to run or else it explodes00:11
ali1234how did you even generate a patch?00:12
ali1234you have to untar the vanilla source, apply all the patches, generate a patch with your change... blah blah blah00:12
netweavernot for me/anymore... it was building it just fine. I generated the patches locally, after downloading the code from OBS ...00:12
ali1234so innefficient00:12
ali1234somewhere there should be a git repo with all those patches already applied00:13
netweaverthat's true, that the least efficient bit. But I had time, when waiting for my OBS access00:13
ali1234and that i can build with a normal cross compiler00:13
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ali1234i can't do anything without that00:13
netweaverhaven't come across it. I did try the local compilation as well but I was getting nowhere. Funny compile errors ... I used again the tarball, also had all the patches automatically downloaded and then then the quilt. It applied all of them00:15
ali1234you probably didn't manage to apply the kernel config properly00:15
ali1234the rpm makes it so hard to figure out what the used config is00:15
netweaverI took the config as delivered with the Nemo image. They deliver the config file as well00:16
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ali1234where is it?00:16
netweaverin the FAT boot partition00:17
ali1234so it is00:18
ali1234so i don't understand the problem00:22
ali1234is it just some cards, or all cards?00:23
ali1234under what circumstances does it work correctly?00:23
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netweaverit works for the stock kernel and all derived kernels (Power, bfs, pwck), loaded from eMMC.00:25
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netweaverBut Nemo kernel loaded from eMMC or MMC fails00:26
ali1234so how does u-boot come in to this?00:26
netweaverur uboot-PR13 works fine in the same setup. Pali's uboot, doesn't00:26
ali1234what is "the same setup"00:27
ali1234so it only fails when using nemo kernel and the new u-boot?00:27
netweaversame card, same partitions, same kernel version00:27
ali1234everything else works fine?00:27
ali1234then you need to bisect the changes between stock and nemo00:27
netweaverlooks like it. Other people are trying to get the Nitdroid kernel to run but there is more to it than just the kernel load for that00:28
ali1234they still haven't fixed that?00:29
ali1234this is the same old problem00:29
netweaverno, it's still doing this hybrid Fremantle binary blob/ANdroid root fs copy thing00:29
ali1234there's no development history, just a crusty RPM00:29
ali1234so you can't run a bisection00:30
ali1234and you'll never be able to fix this bug unless you get lucky00:30
netweaverand fix it on the uboot side, as you suggested ? Save the mmc registers before doing any mmc init and just after reading the uboot file and handing starting that file, restoring all registers ?00:31
netweaveror plainly resetting the mmc part ?00:32
ali1234that might not even work00:32
ali1234who knows.00:32
ali1234there is no sensible way to compare the source code of the two kernels00:33
ali1234you might be able to fix it in u-boot, but the two revisions are so far apart, the omap support was mostly rewritten00:33
ali1234this is the same problem that plagues all arm hardware adaptation00:34
ali1234nobody ever upstreams anything00:34
netweaverI know Pali had issues with his version as well, getting the -110 read errors even on the eMMC, for the stock (and derived) kernels. BUt he managed to fix that.00:34
ali1234and when a new kernel comes out you have to start over from scratch00:35
netweaverHe upstreamed his RX-51 support to the uboot team. But obviously something is still missing00:35
ali1234well all you can do is start reading the code and trying to figure out what is different00:37
netweaverlots of stuff :D00:38
ali1234it could easily be caused by some obscure clock setting not even part of the mmc driver00:38
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ali1234you can try reverting patches00:39
ali1234of course then later patches won't apply00:39
ali1234so then you have to start editing those00:39
netweaverthat's why I was hoping that you, as an experienced person, could have a better idea where to look first. I saw the power setting on the mmc subsystem coming from the TWL4030 was different, as far as I can see it.00:40
ali1234i don't know what that means00:40
ali1234there are only two things you can trust00:40
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ali1234actual values read out from the hardware00:41
ali1234and git history00:41
ali1234you are wasting your time trying to compare small snippets of code when all of the rest of the kernel can be completely different00:41
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netweaverok ... looks like the uboot way has more chance of success then ...00:42
ali1234i have seen timeouts caused by excessively slow debugging printks00:42
ali1234it can be caused by anything in any part of the kernel pretty much00:43
ali1234i know for a fact that the history on u-boot between the two version is huge00:43
ali1234because i had to bisect it to make the new version work00:43
ali1234and it hardly works at all in the intermediate revisions00:44
netweavermy courage is getting below the freezing point now :)00:45
ali1234your best bet is to read the datasheet and learn how to reset mmc properly00:45
ali1234and then implement that00:45
ali1234forget about any old versions, they are probably just as buggy as the current one00:46
netweaverok. any reference for the subsystem I can look for on the TI site ?00:47
ali1234enjoy :)00:48
ali1234see chapter 2200:48
netweaverthanks. I'll start digging ...00:48
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netweaver22.3.1.2 I guess00:51
netweaverhard and soft reset00:51
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ali1234well in short i have no idea how to fix this00:53
ali1234i don't work like that00:53
ali1234i look at the code and find bugs and then fix them until it works00:54
ali1234if i can't look at the code, and the history, and compare them, i can't do anything00:54
netweaverI see your point :) Thanks for the thinking along anyhow !00:56
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ali1234are you sure you rebuilt the kernel properly with those patches?01:01
netweaveron OBS yes ...01:02
ali1234where is your project?01:03
netweaveragain, as far as I know. Every patch I applied I had a different behavour on the N900 during kernel boot. SO my patches were surely taking into account. I tried each separately and together ...01:04
ali1234so where is your project? i want to see your spec file01:04
netweaverit's only one of the 3 trials you can see now of course01:06
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ali1234i can see the revisions01:07
ali1234well as for the patches you tried01:08
ali1234linux-2.6.37-OMAP-mmc_restore-power-mode.patch does nothing01:09
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ali1234and the DTO patch is almost certainly unrelated01:10
ali1234the only change in the first patch is to check the regulator is turned on before turning it off01:10
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ali1234also it sets something to -101:11
ali1234which isn't a vlid value anyway01:12
netweaverI took that idea from the arm-ubuntu team, not clever enough (yet) myself to come up with that ... I gave the link in the patch header text01:12
netweaverboth patches were for identical error messages as we had, so it was worth a try.01:13
netweavererror -110 is time-out. BUt of course one can have a time out due to LOTS of reasons :)01:14
netweaverif the whole chip/subsystem is sleeping (or half asleep), then one can ask for responses forever ...01:16
ali1234host->power_mode =01:16
ali1234well, it isn;t powered off when you boot from u-boot01:16
ali1234so this might be slightly related01:17
ali1234what does -1 actually mean in this context?01:17
netweaverit might be also be in this smart-idle mode ...01:17
ali1234here's an idea01:17
netweaverdepending on the init done in u-boot01:17
ali1234the code expectes it to be turned off01:17
ali1234so turn it off01:18
ali1234in omap_hsmmc_probe01:18
ali1234have you ever tried to boot a mainline kernel?01:20
ali1234like 3.4 or something?01:20
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netweaverno, never did ... I only got this deep last week :)01:21
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ali1234i will try it tomorrow01:21
netweaveryou're in CET timezone as well ?01:21
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netweaverI'll see what I can do on the powering off ... I did change laptop HD in the mean time, so I need to some setup time again to create the patch :)01:24
ali1234just set up a local build01:24
ali1234it's so much easier01:24
netweaverif I get the bloody thing to compile, surely. I tried 2 toolchains, both didn't swallow it. Of course it probably was my mistake somewhere. I'm not exactly a seasoned kernel hacker, that's probably why I liked the OBS building01:27
ali1234i will try to figure out the history of this code01:29
ali1234it will probably take a couple of days to do that though01:30
ali1234since i'll have to figure out what order the patches go in01:30
ali1234i bet at least one of them is a monster as well01:30
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netweavernp. I'm sure a lot of N900 owners would be very greatful !01:30
ali1234if they're that desperate they could just use the old u-boot?01:31
netweaverPali's u-boot version is really opening up u-boot for the masses, very user friendly, on-the-fly generation of boot.scr code etc. It's usage can really take off, if it would also allow Nemo01:32
ali1234what's the point?01:32
ali1234developers should be shipping a boot.scr with their images01:33
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netweaverit replaces the functionality of multiboot in a u-boot way. Select kernels/OS to boot on the fly, easy update commands to include new kernels in the menu. Perfect for safe testing of new stuff.01:35
netweaverJust thinking about the powered-off thing: when booting your uboot version, it isn't powered off either, otherwise it couldn't read the ukernel file off the SD card ...01:43
netweaverunless of course you switch it off right after reading that file. But as you don't touch the HW at all ...01:45
ali1234makes sense01:47
ali1234we had this same problem with usb before01:48
ali1234if you use it in u-boot it doesn't work in the kernel01:48
netweaverso how comes it works in your u-boot ? Magic touch ? :)01:49
netweaverAnyhow, close to 3 am here, need to get some sleep. at 8 am I'm having a conf call, I want to have some rest before. Thanks for looking at it, I'll also think along and try as u suggested. Not sure how far I'll get though.01:55
netweaverIs it ok if I refer in the bug to this conversation, for people to have a background of the issue ?01:56
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netweaverI'm going to hit the sack. Feel free to PM me on TMO, same nick. Or here, on #mer, #meego or #nemomobile. good night as well !02:04
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Stskeepssonach: ok, just to get you started, make an image with mer 0.20120209.0.0.2 and with this added in %post section (show me .ks afterwards),
Stskeepsthis should strip 13-20 mb06:21
sonachStskeeps: OK. Now we are having a meeting. I will start this work immediately after the meeting:)06:22
Stskeepssonach: alright06:23
sonachStskeeps: Maybe half an hour,06:23
Stskeepsthat's fine, i haven't had my morning coffee yet :)06:24
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sonachthank you for your hard work:)06:24
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Stskeepsmorn vgrade07:16
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SageStskeeps: .0.0.3 with mer-next today?07:29
Sageplanning to push the libpng in as well?07:30
Stskeepsi'm hoping to, but i can't promise07:30
Stskeepswe still have COBS non-sb2 enablement07:30
Sageah, that thing07:30
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Venemo_N950good morning guys :)07:35
Stskeepsmorn Venemo_N95007:35
Venemo_N950I see that someone commented on my bug :) I'll try the instructions as soon as I get home today! :)07:36
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Stskeepsmorn ramez07:59
InformatiQgood morning Stskeeps07:59
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sonachStskeeps:, the ks file,08:02
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Stskeepsthanks, i'll just make a similar copy myself locally08:04
Stskeepsso i can test out things before making you do them ;)08:05
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sonachStskeeps: very sorry. We are still at meeting... the wifi connection is bad...08:08
Stskeepssonach: that's perfectly okay :)08:08
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sonachStskeeps: Uncompressed image, 25MB stripped.08:11
Stskeeps:nod: thought as much08:14
Stskeepslet me just finish some stuff and i'll get started looking closer into this08:16
sonachStskeeps: OK:)08:17
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vgradeHP Slate 500 now runnig Mer and Plasma Active08:26
Stskeepswhat SOC is that?08:28
vgradeAtom Z540 1.86GHz Processor08:29
Stskeepsgraphics chip?08:30
Stskeepswith GLES working, too?08:32
vgradeStskeeps, only seen logs but EMGD driver is installed08:33
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Stskeepscan you try to boot that?09:17
sonachStskeeps: no at that time, but soon.09:18
Stskeepsthat's fine09:18
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sonachStskeeps: I find that there are still many things under usr/share/locale,09:19
Stskeepsyes, this one cleans them out09:21
alteregoWhy is this assigned to me? :)09:23
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Stskeepsalterego: mer wiki maybe09:23
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Stskeepsmaybe that default assignee should be need-triage09:24
Stskeepslbt: ^09:24
sonachStskeeps: what do you mean by "this one cleans them out"?09:24
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Stskeepssonach: as in it removes them all09:24
Stskeepssonach: it being the .ks file09:24
sonachbut these are not removed...09:24
Stskeepsthe kickstart file i just gave you does :)09:25
alteregoStskeeps: looks like it's to do with some git stuff, nothing to do with any thing I've done :D09:25
sonachah, when does Mer remove them?09:25
Stskeepssonach: look at %post section09:25
sonachwhen Mer's boot-up?09:25
Stskeepsalterego: just assign it to need-triage@09:25
Stskeepssonach: no, when making the image09:25
sonachbut they will still exist in jffs2 file,09:26
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sonachStskeeps: Now in the image, they are still there,09:26
slainemorning all09:26
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Stskeepssonach: if you make the .ks i gave you in , they won't be in the image result09:27
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sonachStskeeps: in ks file, only /usr/share/locale/locale.archive is deleted. others, including "zh_CN", are not removed,09:29
Stskeepssonach: see the:09:30
Stskeepscd /usr/share/locale09:30
Stskeepsfind -type d -not -name en_US -not -name . | xargs rm -rf09:30
Stskeepsthat goes into usr/share/locale and removes anything but en_US09:30
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sonachStskeeps: this is done. So in fact this command can be added to %post section later:)09:32
Stskeepsyeah, i'm trying to make a .ks that has smaller footprint by standard09:32
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slaineStskeeps: was thinking about that recently09:37
slaineWas wondering if we should consider limiting Locale's that get installed09:37
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Stskeepsslaine: yeah, that's one factor09:38
slaineHave the glibc locale library rebuilt, I did it before and saved a massive amount of space09:39
slainethe only problem then is how do you offer multi language09:40
Stskeeps / localdef09:40
slainebut, from a build perspective, how do you offer it, do we only do en_US builds and specify that you've to pick your locale via a setting in the .ks ?09:41
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slaineOffer a build for the top 3 locales09:41
slaineSomething else I did once was to work on an image stripping tool.09:42
slaineyou would analyze what files in an image had never been touched after a full test cycle, use that as a template for files to remove.09:42
Stskeepsyeah, probably09:43
slaineWell, that's more specialized09:44
slainemight not be applicable09:45
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slaineit might be something to look at where the rpm package can be stripped of unneeded files.09:45
slaineThere's also the nodocs option that stops man and info pages getting installed, not sure if you're already using that one.09:45
Stskeepswe're already using that one09:46
Stskeepsvery useful thing09:46
slaineI remember years ago having to basically strip out stuff manually by creating new .spec files for everything09:46
slainetook a couple of weeks but we had a 32mb appliance at the end of it.09:46
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Stskeepsi think that if i manage to do what i think to do, with my split of core and toolchain, we have something truly awesome and flexible09:50
Stskeepsjust have to get some items off my backlog..09:50
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Stskeepsgood morning mdfe09:57
mdfe_good morning09:58
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sonachStskeeps: cannot boot:
Stskeepssonach: well, at least it gets to login :)10:15
sonachStskeeps: I will go home now, after about 2 hours I will be online. Hope you are accessible:)10:15
Stskeepssee you10:15
sonachsee you:)10:15
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smokuStskeeps: have you considered building Mer core with uClibc ?10:21
Stskeepssmoku: i've considered it but it gives as many problems as building with bionic10:21
Stskeepsfirst step is eglibc and then toolchain-core split10:21
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smokuStskeeps: are these so tightly bound to glibc?  :/10:29
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smokua friend of mine has a complete gentoo desktop system built with uclibc10:31
Stskeepssmoku: well, maybe, maybe not10:31
smokuyes, he's a speed optimisation freak ;-)  but he tells me that it works fine10:31
Stskeepssmoku: either way, the thing i'm going towards is a split between toolchain and core, so core doesn't need to be self-hosting10:31
Stskeepsand we bootstrap glibc from x86 side10:31
Stskeepsand optionally bionic, etc10:31
smokucool idea :)10:31
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Stskeepsone of the reasons why i wanted to go with sb210:32
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smokuoh. now I get it. "it gives problems" as it's problematic to be done, not that it won't worka after10:33
Stskeepsyeah, as in it's a pandora's box of possible issues10:34
Stskeepsbut it might just work10:34
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Stskeepslbt, phaeron: re OBS packaging, see git://
Stskeepslbt, phaeron:
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lbtStskeeps: thanks (was going to use that)10:47
Stskeepssee the comments10:47
lbtalterego: it's mainly because the wiki is "yours" - feel free to reassign including to "needs-triage" ....if you don't want to be default assignee then that's fine too.10:47
phaeron the one for latest 2.3 ..10:48
Stskeepslbt: made an item for first advisory board meeting regarding presenting current project finances, so we should set up a spreadsheet10:48
Stskeepsjust so there's a overview of our operation costs10:48
Stskeepsand who pitches in10:48
lbtHow about an open wiki page for suggestions10:49
Stskeepsfor the agenda? gets difficult to discuss and manage10:50
lbton the obs side this is my main worry :
lbtnot an open page to define the agenda10:50
lbtan open page for suggestions for the agenda - no promises it will get read or responded too10:51
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Stskeepsi prefer the mailing list, that makes sure there's a public sanity check and discussion beforehand10:52
lbtor maybe people can send emails with a certain subject10:52
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Stskeepsi just want to avoid the rather erm, not so sane TSG process10:52
lbtsomething to help collate ideas10:52
Stskeepsi'm rebasing my sb2 obs patches atm and i hate shell quoting10:53
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lbtintermediate vars10:53
Stskeepstry to make a sane chroot() wrapper10:53
Stskeepslbt: i'm of the belief that it's more likely that items will come up during discussion and formalized through an email to put it on the agenda10:54
Stskeepsor during irc discussion10:54
Stskeepsor during a bar visit10:54
Stskeepsso a wiki page is just bound to grow stale10:54
lbt[09/02/2012 10:52] <lbt> or maybe people can send emails with a certain subject10:55
Stskeepsthere is actually a method described10:55
lbtI'd thought of a piratepad too10:55
lbtor something disposable before each meeting10:55
lbteg erase the wiki page and if someone wants to re-raise then feel free10:56
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Stskeepslet's explore it, at least for first meeting we have a method10:56
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Stskeepsthe last part should probably go on wiki10:57
lbtso you select the agenda?10:58
chouchounelbt: piratepad software is etherpad10:58
lbtor do we triage?10:58
lbtchouchoune: yeah - I'd thought of running one for meego but never got round to it10:58
Stskeepslbt: 48 hour sanity check and provided it is sane, it goes on agenda10:59
lbtI wanted it to be able to be used as the wiki editor10:59
lbtStskeeps: ok - just chatting whilst I drink coffee :)11:00
* lbt has FOSDEM Flu :(11:00
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lbtso coherence worse than normal11:01
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lbtnb ... totally failed to get IMG working last night11:01
mdfe_bless you11:01
lbtmdfe_: :)11:01
Stskeepslbt: worse coherence.. so you write emails in book form? ;)11:02
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lbtI got a publisher and an editor and everything....11:02
phaeronlbt: I went into coma yesterday11:02
lbtphaeron: you were looking at IMG too?11:02
phaeronlbt: I was waiting for you .. :D11:03
lbtStskeeps: are you saying I'm wordy?11:03
lbtphaeron: I was asleep at the keyboard11:03
Stskeepslbt: hehe, it's gotten better ;)11:03
lbtoops.... need to move the car11:03
Stskeepswe're at 100% succeeded with MIPS now, btw11:03
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lbtI think there's an issue with zypper solving on the img VM11:04
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phaeronlbt: 1- use testing or unstable qemu for debian worker. but as I said debian worker is not very stable. 2- NFS works fine for collecting the worker results, what's wrong with that ?11:07
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phaeronlbt: 2- Mer:Tools is supposed to start providing SDK tools, mic2 is supposed to be one of them , right ?11:08
phaeronthat was 3-11:08
phaeronand it does _not_ need nested kvm11:08
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phaeronlooking at 411:11
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phaeronlbt: uninstallable providers: python-boss-skynet-0.6.2-1.1.noarch[Project_MINT_Testing] .. any idea or details on why ?11:11
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lbtphaeron: back now11:37
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alteregoStskeeps: I ordered a few of those TTL level USB serial cables, works fine under Linux :) Not bad for 4EUR :)11:48
Stskeepsimage upload working yet?11:48
alteregoI'll look in to it now.11:48
phaeronlbt: read backlog11:50
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lbtphaeron: just doing that11:50
lbtI don't know why unless it has too many choices11:50
lbtzypper in python-boss-skynet complains about supervisor11:50
Cwallei've download the mer rootfs to my S3C6410 board, and it seems worked! but still some wrong i could not figure out,could you help me understand:
phaeronlbt: what's the complain ?11:51
lbtzypper in supervisor complains about python-elemtree11:51
phaeronI would look if I knew which machine11:51
lbtzypper in python-elementtree complains about python2.711:51
lbtzypper in python-2.7 works11:51
lbtnew suse11.411:51
Cwalleit looked like lose some file in mer rootfs11:52
StskeepsCwalle: congratulations on first bootup :)11:53
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CwalleStskeeps: you see the messages?is that mean the mer is up?11:53
StskeepsCwalle: you need a patch .. hang on11:54
Cwallebut i can only see a '?' in my lcd11:54
StskeepsCwalle: how does your .ks look?11:55
Cwallehang on...11:55
StskeepsCwalle: well, you're not asking it to put anything on the screen :)11:57
StskeepsCwalle: try to log into the device11:58
alteregolbt: would you please do the honours of testing file uploads work?11:58
CwalleStskeeps: you said i need a patch?what is that?11:58
lbtsure - assign the bug to me?11:58
StskeepsCwalle: user mer , password rootme11:58
* phaeron hates that password12:00
CwalleStskeeps: i can not input anything in my host terminal12:00
StskeepsCwalle: hmm, interesting12:00
alteregolbt: ^12:01
alteregoAre 3 letter searches really that important?12:01
Stskeepsalterego: 'mic' 'mer' ..12:01
CwalleStskeeps: any suggestions?12:01
alteregoStop being lazy and use the proper names? :P12:02
Stskeepsit's really mic12:02
alteregoYou'r not going to be search for "Mer" on the "Mer" wiki :P12:02
StskeepsCwalle: not sure why you can't type anything12:02
Cwallenow i am restarting again12:02
alteregoInteresting, the issue is actually mysql having a minimum search string length12:03
lbtalterego: obs arm mds12:03
alteregolbt: yeah, I get the picture :P12:03
alteregoI'm only lowering it to three though.12:03
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CwalleStskeeps: you mean if everything is ok(the log message i've pasted out) i am getting  into the linux terminal and i can use the user name and password to log into mer?12:08
StskeepsCwalle: yes, it looks okay for a first startup12:08
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Stskeepsyou should be able to log in12:08
Cwallemy USB-UART driver seems not work file12:08
andrnilsis systemd-logind[176]: Failed to open /sys/class/tty/tty0/active: No such file or directory really expected?12:09
Stskeepsandrnils: it's expected as we use a backported patch from .3712:09
Stskeepsandrnils: we have one that applies against .32 and up12:10
andrnilssame for utmp then?12:10
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Stskeepsutmp is a known issue and i think we fixed it in next core12:11
Stskeepsalterego: ?12:11
Stskeepsalterego: while you're at it, could you do a backup of the wiki database? ;)12:12
StskeepsCwalle: use this .ks:
Cwalleok,trying right now12:12
StskeepsCwalle: the thing in %post is what matters12:13
alteregoStskeeps: backups happen every night :P12:13
Stskeepsalterego: good12:13
alteregoErm ..12:13
Stskeepswhat did you screw up?12:13
w00t_CPH^ things you never want to hear when talking about backups12:14
alteregoNothing, just can't tell if I've fixed the 3 letter search bug12:14
alteregoMIC doesn't bring any results.12:14
slaineheheh, installing MeeGo 1.2 on my Dell mini9 again12:15
slainedidn't think I'd cave, but I'm getting lots of emails to update my Broadcom howto12:15
alteregoIn theory it should work now ..12:15
alteregoAh, it is working :D12:16
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lbtalterego: thanks :)12:16
lbtdefine working? :)12:17
Stskeepsare you clicking 'go' or 'search'12:18
alteregoI did a search for "ARM" and it worked :P12:18
lbtyou just reach out and press on the screen .... right?12:18
Stskeepslbt: touch and go12:18
lbtalterego: no, I think you did a 'go' for arm12:19
lbta search fails12:19
lbt(here at least)12:19
alteregoYeah, you're right12:20
alteregoNeeded to restart mysql, force-reload didn't have any effect.12:20
lbt"No page title matches"12:21
alteregoWell, it didn't have the desired effect.12:21
lbtcould be a MW bug12:21
alteregoI think it might be that there are no pages other than "ARM" with that string in the title.12:22
lbtdo you need to reindex?12:23
alteregoDid that12:23
lbtall tables? (just checking)12:23
alteregoActually I didn't.12:23
alteregoBecause when I reindexed it was before I restarted mysql, so the new 3 letter parameter search criteria hadn't been taken in to account.12:24
alteregoAnyway, looks better now.12:24
lbtit's possible the page title is searched somewhere other than the table used for body12:24
slainelbt, Did you finish off your HA wiki page ?12:24
lbtslaine: I've added more to it12:24
alteregoLooks good now lbt12:24
slaineI haven't looked at it since you started it first lbt, so I imagine you've added a lot to it since then. I'll check it out over lunch12:24
lbtslaine: yep - comments welcome12:25
lbtalterego: ah... much nicer12:25
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alteregolbt, What would you like the session timeout to be?12:26
lbtalterego: actually I think that may have been partly my issue - it wasn't remembering me - but I think 24h is sane12:26
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alteregoIt seems to be set to 180 minutes12:27
alteregoWhich seems fine tbh ..12:27
alteregoI'll leave it for now and let me know if it annoys you again.12:27
lbtyeah - it isn't causing me issues anymore12:28
alteregoOr someone complains.12:28
lbtnext task is to get a VM setup and migrate this to the infra12:28
lbtmainly to link to ldap12:28
CwalleStskeeps:"the thing in %post is what matters" what's that means12:29
StskeepsCwalle: if you see the ln -s thing12:30
StskeepsCwalle: that's what brings up your serial console12:30
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sonachI have loginned in,12:43
Stskeepscool, does the usual stuff seem to work, ps, ls, cd ?12:43
Stskeepsok, good12:44
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sonachyes, lsmod can work12:44
Stskeepsdoes it show the framebuffer as loaded like it should?12:44
Stskeepsbut uxlaunch fails to boot qtmediahub?12:45
sonachXorg.0.log needed?12:45
Stskeepsperhaps, yeah12:45
Stskeepsand /home/mer/.xsession-errors12:45
Stskeepslooks correct12:47
Stskeepsand .xsession-errors?12:47
Stskeepsifconfig -a12:48
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HUELKhi all im trying to build a mer image and get this error: Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option. how to solve that12:49
sonachno ifconfig12:49
sonachI haven't add net-tools to image,12:49
Stskeepssonach: well that explains that possibly12:49
Stskeeps /bin/busybox ifconfig -a12:49
HUELKim using this ks
sonachStskeeps: no busybox!12:52
Stskeepssonach: ok, it might not be in /bin12:52
Stskeepssonach: .. there should be a /bin/busybox for sure :)12:52
Stskeepsi have it in my image12:55
sonachStskeeps: but in fact no, I will show you files under /bin,12:56
Stskeepssonach: that looks like an old image12:57
Stskeeps is mine12:57
Stskeepsand you used the .ks i sent earlier today?12:57
sonachStskeeps: it's new. because:12:58
sonach [root@localhost locale]# ls /usr/share/locale/12:58
sonachen_US  locale.alias12:58
Stskeepscan you show me the .ks?12:58
sonachStskeeps: I have cached rpms. Is this related?12:58
Stskeepsthat should be fine12:59
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Stskeepsit might be that i'm using new 'mic' and you're still using mic212:59
Stskeepsbut i need to see some thing about that12:59
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sonachoh yes, I use mic2 of Ubuntu11.10.13:00
sonachyou find something interesting??13:00
Stskeepssonach: was the last .ks i gave you ;)13:01
Stskeepsso use that instead13:01
sonachoh sorry!!13:02
CwalleStskeeps:it not work too! but after some time it show something like
Stskeepssonach: ah no problem, that's why i set up a local copy to check :)13:04
StskeepsCwalle: ok, sec13:05
StskeepsCwalle: can you compile your own kernel?13:05
Cwalleyes!it is used for my android,is that related13:06
Stskeepsapply that patc13:06
sonachStskeeps: I am building the image. the wifi connection is not very good....13:07
StskeepsCwalle: also, make sure that options are enabled13:07
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Stskeepssonach: hehe, things take the time they take :)13:07
CwalleStskeeps:yeah, i've followed the guide. i'll check again13:08
StskeepsCwalle: it didn't have CONFIG_CGROUPS at least it looks like13:08
StskeepsCwalle: out of curiousity, what kind of S3C6410 board is it?13:09
StskeepsCwalle: i have a SmartQ5 at home, which is 6410 too13:09
CwalleStskeeps: it is just a third part made board in my city13:10
CwalleStskeeps;is the patch you gave me just now can fix the CONFIG_CGROUPS?13:11
StskeepsCwalle: no, that's another problem but may help fix the serial console issue13:11
Stskeepsit was my first positive experience with china manufacturers -- they sent us free smartq5 and smartq7 and when we asked if we could have the kernel source so we could do development, they gave us kernel sources, bootloader sources and everything needed13:12
Cwallethere seem no CONFIG_CGROUPS in my kernel configure file13:12
Stskeepsok, it should be added then13:12
Cwallewow! what a nice company13:13
Stskeepskernel sources are of course obligatory to publish and so on, but they did it without demanding anything back :)13:13
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CwalleStskeeps: could i ask for the linux kernel source you used for your 6410 board13:14
StskeepsCwalle: it's very old, but sure13:14
Cwallenow the kernel i used is for android13:15
sonachCwalle: I think you can get kernel source from the cdrom released with 6410,13:15
Stskeepsbut it's too old for mer, sadly13:15
Cwalleback to the CONFIG_CGROUPS, how  can i add this driver13:16
Stskeepsmaybe there is a # CONFIG_CGROUPS is not set13:17
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Cwallesonach:you are right,maybe that is a easy way13:17
CwalleStskeeps,let me search...13:18
HUELKanyone can help me with this: Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option.13:18
StskeepsHUELK: sudo mic-create-bootstrap -n trunk -k /var/cache/mic -r -o /var/cache/meego-bootstrap13:19
StskeepsHUELK: and then try command again13:19
HUELKStskeeps: ok thank you13:21
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sonachStskeeps: with new image, cannot boot...13:22
Stskeepssonach: what errors do you get?13:22
Stskeepssonach: i didn't expect it to work first time :)13:22
sonachStskeeps: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off13:23
Stskeeps(please show me whole boot log)13:23
sonachStskeeps: this is the only log diffferent with previous13:23
Stskeepsok, i'd like to see still13:23
Stskeepsfrom kernel start to when it stops talking13:23
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Stskeepsokay, that's not good :)13:25
Stskeepscan you try to do ls -l /sbin/init ?13:25
sonachls: /sbin/init: No such file or directory13:26
Stskeepsexec /bin/systemd13:26
Stskeeps(as in, that exact command)13:27
sonachI will show you the log, is very slow....13:29
Stskeepssonach: add systemd-sysv to %packages , that's why it doesn't start up (woops)13:30
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ali1234Stskeeps: do you know anything about this nemo kernel + u-boot sd card thing?13:33
Stskeepsali1234: i don't know what goes wrong there, no13:34
Stskeepsali1234: uboot-pr13 + nemo kernel works fine13:34
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ali1234do you know where i can get the n900 kernel adaptation from git?13:34
ali1234yeah, that's what i gathered13:34
ali1234all i know is the omap support in u-boot was completely rewritten13:35
ali1234so looking at the changes in u-boot is probably a waste of time13:35
ali1234but supposedly new u-boot works with other kernels13:35
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ali1234is there even a well defined history between, say, kernel-power and kernel-nemo?13:36
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ali1234or did someone start over and cherry pick patches?13:36
Stskeepsno history13:36
Stskeepskernel-nemo is a rebase and upstreaming on top of .3713:36
ali1234a rebase from what tho?13:36
Stskeepsie, we actually submitted things to main kernel and applied it to mainline13:36
Stskeepsas in taking patches / reworking on top of them, from n900 product kernel13:37
ali1234does mainline boot in a sensible way?13:37
ali1234oh, as in manual rebase :/13:37
Stskeepsit's fairly well supported13:37
ali1234ok. i'll try some various mainlines and see which ones boot/ or not13:37
ali1234maybe i can reproduce it there and then just bisect13:38
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sonachStskeeps: it is the uxlaunch's start log13:41
Stskeepssonach: ok, so not bad13:42
Stskeepssonach: i'll have to spend some time testing this myself, thanks for trying it out13:42
Stskeepshow big was the jffs2 image?13:42
HUELKon every image that i compiled in the last 4 days i always get this error Target initialization failed: Failed to cache rpm database (132) why is that13:43
StskeepsHUELK: show the surrounding error please13:43
HUELKthere is nothing else the error appears after i run zypper refresh from a mic-chroot13:44
HUELKthats the whole output13:44
StskeepsHUELK: arm or x86?13:44
Stskeepscat /proc/cpuinfo13:44
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StskeepsHUELK: you may potentially have run into the fact your CPU does not support SSSE313:46
Stskeepsand i don't think plasma active builds for mer's i486 port right now13:46
ali1234shouldn't it get killed with a signal if that happened?13:47
sonachStskeeps: There is some connection error with me... the uxlaunch start log is :
HUELKhmm thats bad so i have no other chance than use a precompiled image13:47
StskeepsHUELK: if i were you i would ask them to build for i486 too13:47
HUELKthe target device is x86 only13:47
Stskeepssonach: ok, how big is jffs2 image?13:47
sonachStskeeps: 9450291213:48
ali1234HUELK: likely a precompiled image wouldn't work either, if that is really the problem13:48
Stskeepssonach: ok, so not that bad13:48
ali1234i'm not 100% convinced though :)13:48
Stskeepssonach: i have to spend some time to test this out myself but it looks better than expected13:49
Stskeepssonach: thanks for trying it out13:49
ali1234HUELK: i can take a look at this while waiting for kernels to build ... are you following some guide? what ks are you using?13:49
sonachStskeeps: Thank you very much:) If you need me to try something out,  just touch me on IRC:)13:50
Stskeepssonach: alright13:50
sonachStskeeps: another thing.  Now the mainstream STB of Chinese markset is 256MB RAM, 128MB Flash. But 256MB flash is OK.13:51
HUELKStskeeps: i use the ks file form mdfe_ from #active and just use "sudo mic-image-creator --config=mer-plasma.ks --cache=/var/cache/meego-bootstrap --pkgmgr=yum  --format=fs" to build the image13:51
Stskeepssonach: ok, i would like to make the footprint lower anyway13:51
HUELKStskeeps: my ks is this
sonachStskeeps: as for RAM, usually half of it(i.e, 128MB) will be allocated for hardware video decoder and graphics, so we can use only 128MB.13:52
HUELKi had that problem with some meego images too and had to try different repos until i found on that works13:52
Stskeepssonach: that does help specifying how much is needed13:52
sonachStskeeps: So memory will be a severe task for me later:)13:53
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sonachStskeeps: Yes. It is the need of market:)13:53
sonachStskeeps: see you then:)13:54
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ali1234i get "Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option."13:55
HUELKwhy do i need ssse3 for a i586 build i mean it doesnt support it does it?13:56
StskeepsHUELK: bad inheritance, intel called their ssse3 build i58613:57
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ali1234what is
ali1234is it generic, or i586?13:58
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Stskeepsali1234: kinda 'generic x86' ie, kernel/drivers, just not built for i486..13:59
smokuStskeeps: is bad inheritance something like bad touch? ;-)13:59
Stskeepsali1234: [14:19] <Stskeeps> HUELK: sudo mic-create-bootstrap -n trunk -k /var/cache/mic -r -o /var/cache/meego-bootstrap13:59
ali1234what's that?13:59
Stskeepsto solve the mainrepo thing14:00
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ali1234"Error: ("Given output dir '/var/cache/meego-bootstrap' is not empty.", False)"14:00
HUELKok my target device has an atom cpu which according to wikipedia supports ssse3 i just try to build an liveusb and look if it starts on the device14:01
Stskeepswell, whereever14:01
ali1234how does it solve it? what is it supposed to do?14:01
Stskeepsali1234: makes a meego bootstrap14:01
Stskeepswe're going to go away from that with our platform sdk14:01
StskeepsHUELK: ah, ok14:01
* Stskeeps goes take a break14:01
ali1234i thought the ks did that?14:01
ali1234this stuff is too confusing14:01
Stskeepsali1234: bootstrap to build image with14:01
ali1234how does that help with mainrepo?14:02
Stskeepsmainrepo is a error that comes when bootstrap isn't created14:02
HUELKits is just annoying that i cannot use the speed of my desktop pc14:02
ali1234and shouldn't the bootstrap be built with i486 packages in our case?14:03
ali1234wait why do i even need a meego bootstrap?14:06
* ali1234 looks at channel name14:07
Stskeepsali1234: long story short we're getting rid of that part with our platform sdk stuff, i could explain a little more but it'd be a waste of both our time :)14:07
ali1234well, making a meego bootstrap didn;t solve the mainrepo problem...14:08
smokuali1234: what distro are you on?14:12
smokuso you need bootstrap to have a chroot of working rpm+yum environment14:14
ali1234i have a working yum+rpm environment, it works fine14:14
ali1234also, chicken and egg much?14:15
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smokuso what problem do you have building an image without using bootstrap?  (pastebin)14:16
lbtok thanks to some help from phaeron we have IMG working at last - some annoying issues but it is running14:16
ali1234smoku: "Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option."14:16
smokuali1234: so, specify it?14:18
ali1234ok, what is the main repo?14:18
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ali1234according to manual page it is "one of the repos in the kickstart file"14:18
ali1234ok, which one is it?14:18
phaeronlbt: back14:18
smokuyou have fev repos specified in ks, so mic does not know which one is main :)14:18
ali1234well that makes two of us then14:19
smokuI don't know how did you call the Mer repo in your ks14:19
ali1234i have ce_tools, mer-core, mer-core-debuginfo, mer-shared, mer-plasma-shared, mer-extras, plasma, adaptation-x86-generic14:20
smokushould work14:20
ali1234it does, sort of14:20
ali1234but it dies later14:20
ali1234looks like a bug in mic14:20
smokuthat's why you need bootstrap14:21
ali1234i'd rather fix mic14:21
smokuto have a _working_ rpm+yum environment :)14:21
ali1234looks like a trivial bug14:21
ali1234it's trying to run /usr/local/bin/mic instead of /usr/bin/mic14:21
lbtali1234: there's a new pkg pushed14:22
lbtI hit that last night14:22
lbtphaeron fixed it14:22
ali1234now... to wait for it to hit precise14:22
* ali1234 holds breath14:22
lbtMer Tools package14:22
lbtor even MINT:Testing14:23
ali1234i'm getting a lot of: WARNING: Could not find package 'genisoimage' suitable arch for arch 'None' for bootstrap installation.14:25
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ali1234shouldn't i specify the arch to something other than "None"?14:25
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ali1234right, nemo image downloaded, so i'm going back to C hacking :)14:37
HUELKis there a shell only install script i have some probs here with the graphics14:46
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SageHUELK: what do you mean?14:52
lbtso phaeron I'm mainly worried about the number of dependant packages - especially perl14:52
lbtI don't want to build against suse since that changes a lot14:52
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phaeronlbt: you mean against suse Tools ?14:53
phaeronwe can aggregate for ease of installation14:53
lbtwe'll need to build against their unstable14:54
lbtfor 2.3 branch14:54
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lbtto get things like the solv libs14:54
HUELKcan i blacklist the gma500_gfx/psb_gfx at boot14:54
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HUELKi mean from kernel command line14:54
lbtI'd rather copy/sync so we don't suddenly get forced to update when we don't want to14:54
phaeronso if we copy, we don't need to build against their unstable :D14:55
lbtbut we do need to track their unstable14:55
lbthopefully it's not a huge dep list14:55
lbtbut it looks like it might be14:56
phaeronthe script written by Sage should allow comparing the projects14:56
Sage ?14:56
lbtso slow14:57
phaeronlbt: Problem: installed python-2.7-9.12.1.x86_64 obsoletes python-elementtree provided by python-elementtree-1.2.6-50.1.x86_6414:58
phaeronlbt: so this is the real issue I think14:58
lbtand probably doesn't Provide: python-elementtree14:59
* Sage is using that script to promote stuff from devel project to official project e.g. ./ --source-project=Project:MTF:UX --destination-project=CE:UX:MTF --create-creq-string --show-changelog14:59
lbtSage: I had a similar script for maemo-mer back then15:00
lbtnot so rich though15:00
SageI created that script originally to compare MeeGo CE To MeeGo vanilla Trunk ;)15:00
Sageie. what we should try to push vanilla meego15:01
lbtI guess it's fairly slow15:01
Sageyes it is quite slow15:01
lbtI'd like the meta in the obs DB to include the version as per the changelog or similar15:01
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lbtok headache too bad ... I'll be biab15:05
phaeronlbt: ok installs smoothly now15:09
phaeronremoved elementtree dep from supervisor15:09
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SageStskeeps: headsup with systemd 41 >=
Sagelbt: ^ might want to note that to adaptation guides as well?15:20
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ali1234netweaver__ nemo boots fine on recent u-boots here15:30
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Netweaver_Ali123: Did you take stock -boot builds ?15:46
ali1234netweaver_when pali started to work on u-boot he asked me to rebase my patches on recent u-boot15:46
ali1234which i did15:46
ali1234that is available here
ali1234afaik pali's work is based on that15:47
ali1234well, my latest version boots nemo just fine15:47
ali1234so the problem is somewhere in whatever he has added for sure15:47
Netweaver_so he must have done something to mess things up in his latest variant15:47
ali1234unless he has rebased on newer u-boot15:47
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Crnkojhi there15:47
ali1234where is his git tree?15:48
ali1234either way, my tree is only about 4 months old15:49
ali1234so it should be easy to bisect15:49
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ali1234but i would advise backing out any large changes until you have a very basic u-boot with just enough hardware support and no fancy menus and stuff15:49
ali1234i'm assuming that they haven't rewritten omap support again15:50
ali1234seems unlikely since the last time took about 9 months for all the changes to land15:51
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ali1234gitorious is so slow :(16:00
ali1234ok so mine is based on 2011.0616:02
ali1234pali is continually rebasing on upstream16:02
ali1234so... upstream probably broke it16:02
ali1234ok, i will, first rebase my basic patches on a recent release16:09
Crnkojhey vgrade are you here ?16:11
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ali1234i can't log in to nemo buzgilla...16:15
SageX-Fade: ping16:15
ali1234wait "please use your username - not email"16:16
ali1234it never asked me for a username16:16
ali1234oh crap16:18
ali1234i typed my password in the username field16:18
ali1234brb i have to go change some passwords16:18
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ali1234now i'm confused16:52
ali1234login name = email?16:52
Stskeepslbt would know16:52
ali1234damn i hate bugzilla soooooooooooooooooo much16:53
ali1234ok i can log in by using my password as username, so i was right the first time16:54
ali1234mer bugzilla accepts email address or user name, nemo only accepts user name16:55
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ali1234Stskeeps: did you know you are admin contact on the bugzilla sign-up emails? ;)16:56
ali1234i don't even understand how it's possible for me to do what i have done16:58
ali1234according to bugzilla documentation, the login ID and email are the same thing16:58
Stskeepswe share with a LDAP backend16:59
Stskeepsthat's why it's a bit confusion16:59
ali1234and you can modify it through the bugzilla preferences (also seems incorrect)16:59
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phaeronlbt: ping17:32
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ali1234wait hang on a minute. does gerrit use the same login system?17:41
Stskeepsno, but it ought to17:42
ali1234ah ok17:42
Sagejoggler is gma500 device right?17:42
ali1234cos i just remembered i already have an account on that17:42
Sageand lbt has adaptation for it?17:42
Sageish is enough I guess :)17:43
Stskeepsas in the gles drivers are xorg server dependent17:43
ali1234Sage: exobuzz is the joggler expert17:43
Stskeepsbut runs quite fast in sw rendering for qtmediahub17:43
* Sage ponders if that adaptation would boot on viliv s517:45
* Sage curses the fedora 16 on his netbook. mic doesn't work :/17:46
phaeronSage: try imager :D17:53
smokuSage: mic or mic2?17:57
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Sagesmoku: mic17:58
phaeronStskeeps: where is our github clone ? ?18:08
phaeronStskeeps: does it have the needed patches already ?18:09
Stskeepsnot yet, i'm rebasing18:12
Stskeepsjust get base checkouts working18:12
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Stskeepsie, msater18:20
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ali1234Netweaver: commit 6dfbf49c6dc3687efbc6d7f9e25bb46ed2d6c833 OMAP3: Remove legacy mmc driver18:56
ali1234iow they have rewritten the omap drivers AGAIN18:56
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_av500_omap drivers are permanently under construction19:08
_av500_they are in stable flux19:08
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_av500_dm8tbr: ping19:09
ali1234Netweaver: old code uses drivers/mmc/omap3_mmc.c, new code uses drivers/mmc/omap_hsmmc.c19:12
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ali1234netweaver: the new driver does a softreset on the mmc19:21
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ali1234actually the old driver does too19:27
phaeronStskeeps: any eta on the rebase .. the spec file expects some files that are in latest upstream git19:33
phaeronStskeeps: if not I'll use an older spec file19:33
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Stskeepsphaeron: tomorrow, just use a checkout from upstream git as proof of cocnept19:33
ali1234netweaver: pali u-boot git source doesn't work at all19:36
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Netweaver_ali1234: :) What do you mean ? It works fine (at least the published debs) for the stock and derived kernels in the eMMC. For all the rest I'm doubting indeed.20:13
ali1234the source code on gitourious does not even boot the kernel20:14
ali1234it just corrupts the screen then hangs20:14
Netweaver_that different behaviour than what we see. I even managed once to get a proper blue Mer screen, but also 1000s of error -110 rolling over the screen20:15
ali1234well i can't do anything with binaries20:15
ali1234i am trying to fix it20:15
Netweaver_after that the SD card was corrupted I I had to format it with the format tool before I could do ANYTHING with it20:15
Netweaver_the card corruption has been seen by others as well20:16
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Netweaver_Pali is the only guy who can give us the last state of the code.20:17
ali1234so yeah... i can't reproduce the bug20:17
Netweaver_only if u load the binaries, than it's pretty easy to see. BUt v hard to debug I guess20:18
ali1234yeah there's no point20:18
Netweaver_Should we ask Pali to share his code, even in the crappy state (as he claims) it is ?20:18
Stskeepsit's GPL...20:19
Netweaver_I'll add the link to the conversation of today ( after midnight :) ) in the thread, for information on the analysis done and steps taken. I'll ask him to share everything in a proper way, so you can have a better look, on the real code used to create the binaries20:21
ali1234maybe it's my compiler20:21
ali1234looks like he uploaded code more recently20:21
ali1234i've got the new driver working in my codebase20:22
ali1234boots ok20:23
ali1234still cannot reproduce20:23
ali1234am i still connected?20:24
ali1234nemo exposes a network device on usb, it made my network manager go crazy20:24
ali1234i have a "wired network disconnected" notification. LIES20:25
ali1234Netweaver: maybe it's your SD card20:26
ali1234i'll try pali's binary just to make sure20:26
ali1234WOAH OK that's definitely broken20:29
Netweaver_:) you see all -110 errors ? :)20:31
ali1234yeah error spam20:32
Netweaver_I tried with 2 cards,  at least 4 other people have the same issue. Nobody has been able to boot Nemo properly with the latest Pali u-boot20:33
ali1234i can see that20:33
ali1234well, i just booted with 2011.12 plus my patches with some very very minor modifications to use the new mmc driver20:33
ali1234so the scope of possible errors is much smaller now20:34
Netweaver_it must be a timing issue, as sometimes one manages to get a bit further ... so not all reads are timing out20:34
Netweaver_I tried with a class 6 and class 10, but there are even people with an older class 2 having the issue. Also booting Nemo from the eMMC is not working fine.20:35
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ali1234well, i need the source of the actual released binary to do any more20:35
ali1234but we're close to finding it20:35
Netweaver_updating the TMO thread now, requesting the code and cooperation with you. I'll put the link here20:36
phaeronlbt: ping ?20:41
phaeronwhere did you disappear20:42
lbtI have a serious case of man flu20:42
lbtwell, serious enough that I'm not going to try and do anything requiring intelligence20:44
lbtso packaging is fine20:44
lbtmmmk .... back to sleep then20:45
phaeronwhat ...20:46
lbtyou pinged me...20:47
ali1234lbt: any chance you could delete me from the LDAP/SSO stuff?20:48
lbtali1234: can you clarify20:48
ali1234i typed my password into the username field when making an account :(20:48
ali1234on bugs.merproject.org20:48
ali1234email is a.j.buxton@gmail.com20:49
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Crnkojgrade do oyu know if there are bootargs to force output to hdmi with tegra2 ?20:50
ali1234lbt: if it's easier, you can just change my username to ali1234, or i can just start over. i didn't touch any bugs20:51
lbtwhat account did you make20:53
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alinux__99hi I did install nemo and I have uboot installed as well, but I had a dual boot android maemo before, now after doing the sdcard install I cant see nemo in the boot options20:55
ali1234alinux__99: which boot menu?20:55
alinux__99ali1234, when I boot there is some sort of a boot menu with 1 for maemo and 2 for Android,20:56
ali1234alinux__99: afaik nitdroid is not compatible with u-boot and uses multiboot instead, which will wipe out your u-boot given the chance20:56
alinux__99ali1234, makes I should uninstall multiboot and reinstall u-boot ?20:57
ali1234well i don't know20:57
ali1234you know i originally made the u-boot because i didn't like multiboot20:57
ali1234cos it reflashes the kernel every time you switch OS20:57
ali1234and u-boot goes in the kernel slot20:57
ali1234so using them both will probably lead to bad things happening20:58
Crnkojguys does anyone know if one can set bootargs for tegra2 devices to output to hdmi ?20:58
ali1234unfortunately i didn't realise that nitdroid can only work with multiboot for some technical reasons20:58
ali1234so basically... unless you really know what you're doing with both the systems, you'll have to pick one or the other20:59
alinux__99ali1234, I am not in need of nitdroid anymore right now, I want to make mer work ..20:59
ali1234well in general you should probably remove multiboot, however i have no idea how you would do that20:59
alinux__99ali1234, I did remove the android sd card inserted the Nemo sdcard and did remove multiboot using apt-get on maemo20:59
alinux__99ali1234, will try to reinstall uboot now20:59
ali1234if you don't see the black screen with linux penguin, u-boot isn't installed21:00
ali1234although the backlight may be off when that is displayed21:01
Netweaver_ali1234: Ammyt, one of the nitdroid dev's is working on a uboot compatible version, as stskeeps said that the binary blobs could be permanently copied into the Nitdroid roof fs. As opposed to now being copied at boot time from the Maemo partition.21:01
ali1234you should still be able to see it under a bright light though21:01
ali1234Netweaver: yes they;ve been promising to fix that for ages :)21:01
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ali1234alinux__99: u-boot is lower level than multiboot, it runs before any kernel, multiboot is like a small distro on it's own21:02
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alinux__99ali1234, it said beginning flash update...nand..Image flashed successfully...will reboot21:02
ali1234well, initscripts running under a kernel21:02
Netweaver_I know Ammyt was also charmed by the latest Pali uboot, specifically the menu and the user friendliness of adding extra kernels/OS. So maybe now ...21:03
alinux__99ali1234, Penguin in upeer left corner21:03
ali1234alinux__99: you should be good then, just insert nemo sd card and remember to put the back on :)21:03
alinux__99ali1234, how to reboot into Maemo if needed ?21:04
ali1234alinux__99: remove sd card21:04
ali1234that's it :)21:04
alinux__99ali1234, soudns good thanks21:04
ali1234i don't see how it can be any more user friendly than that :)21:04
ali1234but what you have to watch out for is if you reboot to maemo and multiboot comes up21:05
ali1234cos that might erase u-boot again21:05
alinux__99ali1234, I did remove multiboot..thanks21:05
ali1234but idk, i never tested that21:05
alinux__99ali1234, it is booting into maemo although it shows uboot21:06
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ali1234alinux__99: yes, it will always show that u-boot screen now21:06
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ali1234or do you mean when you have the sd card plugged in?21:07
alinux__99ali1234, OK I have the sd card plugged in and I did stop auto boot, should I run boot mmcboot ?21:08
ali1234you don't need to stop it21:08
ali1234well, you shouldn't21:08
alinux__99ali1234, it goes to maemo though :(21:09
ali1234what does run mmcboot say?21:09
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alinux__99ali1234, wrong image format for bootm, cant get kernel image21:10
ali1234it might be that old version of u-boot that doesn't check all partitions21:11
alinux__99ali1234, it is pr1321:11
ali1234i'm not familiar with that version21:11
ali1234which mmc partitions is it checking? and which partition is the kernel image and boot script on?21:11
ali1234and did you create the sd card properly?21:12
alinux__99ali1234, in the how to it sais In the Hildon Application Manager, install the U-Boot package, found in "System" category. (The package is 'uboot-pr13' at the time of writing)21:12
ali1234can you link me to the guide you followed please?21:12
alinux__99ali1234, I did create the sd card using dd not much I can do wrong :)21:12
ali1234did you uncompress it?21:13
alinux__99ali1234, bunzip2 xyz.raw.bz221:13
alinux__99ali1234, dd bs=4096 if=./nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-0.20120120.1.NEMO.2012-02-09.1-mmcblk0p.raw of=/dev/sdb121:13
ali1234that's wrong21:14
ali1234/dev/sdb not /dev/sdb121:14
ali1234it's a full disk image, not a partition21:14
alinux__99ali1234, excuse my stupidity ..I explicitely read that and did the mistake ...21:14
alinux__99ali1234, thanks and sorry for wasting your time21:14
alinux__99will redo the dd21:14
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alinux__99hi when I try to boot nemo of a ssd card on my N900 I get a lot of I/O errors and boot stops with a sync error and kernel panic, I did check the ssd card for problems but it seems fine22:21
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KhaledStskeeps: I want to contribute on a ux mer based project, what do u recommend for me other than plasma active?22:31
KhaledI believe it is tablet only and I want both22:33
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Khaledyeah or phone ux only22:34
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ali1234i don't understand the difference22:34
ali1234cordia is the old n900 UX, basically22:34
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ali1234maemo 522:34
alinux__99sorry got DC, I am getting a lot of I/O errors when booting Nemo on my N900...I did use a tool to check SD  card it seems fine...any ideas ?22:34
Khaledi thought cordia was tablet only22:34
ali1234dunno if they have a dialer component but you could always port one :)22:34
ali1234alinux__99: that's a known issue, we are working on it22:35
ali1234alinux__99: although i never heard of anyone having that problem with the u-boot pr1322:35
ali1234alinux__99: -110 right?22:36
alinux__99ali1234, thanks for the update, so what can I do to boot into Nemo ? Try an earlier release ?22:36
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ali1234alinux__99: it works for me with the u-boot from the repos22:37
ali1234alinux__99: only the pali u-boot gives the errors22:37
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alinux__99ali1234, I definetly used the repos uboot22:37
ali1234when you say "a lot"22:37
ali1234do you mean like it's continuouslyscrolling hundreds oferrors per second?22:37
ali1234or just like 1022:38
alinux__99ali1234, yeah until it stops with a kernel panic message is hundreds ..22:38
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ali1234yeah that's the bug. weird that you see it with that u-boot version though... i don't understand this22:38
ali1234well, i don't have much to suggest for now22:39
ali1234you can try reflashing u-boot manually with my latest development build22:39
ali1234it's complicated though22:39
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Netweaver_ali1234: even in the emo wiki there is a disclaimer about slow/now working cards due to IO errors ... So I have a dark brown feeling some people have seen this issue before already but it was less common22:58
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Netweaver_going to sleep now, my wife was v angry last night when I was getting into bed at 3:15 am ... :) So I'll try to be good/better now ... good night to all !23:21
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lbtsystemd is a pita23:54
lbtJob failed. See system logs and 'systemctl status' for details.23:54
phaeronand everything is a mish mash in dmesg23:56
lbtyep ... apache errors in dmesg ... nice23:56
phaeronthe journal should help I guess23:56
phaeronbut I think it can be configured to do syslog23:57
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lbtanother day, another cert23:58

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