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| ali1234 | also you can use qemu-n900 | 00:02 |
| ali1234 | to watch what it is writing to memory | 00:02 |
| ali1234 | both u-boot and the kernel | 00:02 |
| ali1234 | although the hardware emulation isn't very faithful to the real thing | 00:02 |
| ali1234 | ugh. don't you have a git repo somewhere? | 00:03 |
| ali1234 | i can't work with OBS | 00:03 |
| Netweaver_ | There should be a mirror git repo somewhere. But I didn't use/needed it yet. OBS made my trials/kernel building very easy ... | 00:05 |
| ali1234 | how? | 00:06 |
| ali1234 | how can you even say that? | 00:06 |
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| ali1234 | every time you make a change you have to generate a patch, add it to the spec, rerun a bunch of magic scripts that do god knows what, and then wait an hour for rpmbuild to make a chroot and then recompile the whole kernel from scratch | 00:08 |
| netweaver | :) blissfull ignorance on my side I guess ... I managed to include my patches and build complete kernel in no time. Rebuilding was v fast | 00:08 |
| netweaver | my requirements were simple... | 00:09 |
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| netweaver | no manual scripts were needed, rebuilding starts the moment you add/modify a file. And a few minutes later one has the RPM available. | 00:10 |
| ali1234 | you have to run makespec.pl or else it explodes | 00:11 |
| ali1234 | how did you even generate a patch? | 00:12 |
| ali1234 | you have to untar the vanilla source, apply all the patches, generate a patch with your change... blah blah blah | 00:12 |
| netweaver | not for me/anymore... it was building it just fine. I generated the patches locally, after downloading the code from OBS ... | 00:12 |
| ali1234 | so innefficient | 00:12 |
| ali1234 | somewhere there should be a git repo with all those patches already applied | 00:13 |
| netweaver | that's true, that the least efficient bit. But I had time, when waiting for my OBS access | 00:13 |
| ali1234 | and that i can build with a normal cross compiler | 00:13 |
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| ali1234 | i can't do anything without that | 00:13 |
| netweaver | haven't come across it. I did try the local compilation as well but I was getting nowhere. Funny compile errors ... I used again the tarball, also had all the patches automatically downloaded and then then the quilt. It applied all of them | 00:15 |
| ali1234 | you probably didn't manage to apply the kernel config properly | 00:15 |
| ali1234 | the rpm makes it so hard to figure out what the used config is | 00:15 |
| netweaver | I took the config as delivered with the Nemo image. They deliver the config file as well | 00:16 |
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| ali1234 | where is it? | 00:16 |
| netweaver | in the FAT boot partition | 00:17 |
| ali1234 | so it is | 00:18 |
| ali1234 | so i don't understand the problem | 00:22 |
| ali1234 | is it just some cards, or all cards? | 00:23 |
| ali1234 | under what circumstances does it work correctly? | 00:23 |
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| netweaver | it works for the stock kernel and all derived kernels (Power, bfs, pwck), loaded from eMMC. | 00:25 |
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| netweaver | But Nemo kernel loaded from eMMC or MMC fails | 00:26 |
| ali1234 | so how does u-boot come in to this? | 00:26 |
| netweaver | ur uboot-PR13 works fine in the same setup. Pali's uboot, doesn't | 00:26 |
| ali1234 | what is "the same setup" | 00:27 |
| ali1234 | so it only fails when using nemo kernel and the new u-boot? | 00:27 |
| netweaver | same card, same partitions, same kernel version | 00:27 |
| ali1234 | everything else works fine? | 00:27 |
| netweaver | indeed | 00:27 |
| ali1234 | then you need to bisect the changes between stock and nemo | 00:27 |
| netweaver | looks like it. Other people are trying to get the Nitdroid kernel to run but there is more to it than just the kernel load for that | 00:28 |
| ali1234 | they still haven't fixed that? | 00:29 |
| ali1234 | this is the same old problem | 00:29 |
| netweaver | no, it's still doing this hybrid Fremantle binary blob/ANdroid root fs copy thing | 00:29 |
| ali1234 | there's no development history, just a crusty RPM | 00:29 |
| ali1234 | so you can't run a bisection | 00:30 |
| ali1234 | and you'll never be able to fix this bug unless you get lucky | 00:30 |
| netweaver | :( | 00:30 |
| netweaver | and fix it on the uboot side, as you suggested ? Save the mmc registers before doing any mmc init and just after reading the uboot file and handing starting that file, restoring all registers ? | 00:31 |
| netweaver | or plainly resetting the mmc part ? | 00:32 |
| ali1234 | that might not even work | 00:32 |
| ali1234 | who knows. | 00:32 |
| ali1234 | there is no sensible way to compare the source code of the two kernels | 00:33 |
| ali1234 | you might be able to fix it in u-boot, but the two revisions are so far apart, the omap support was mostly rewritten | 00:33 |
| ali1234 | this is the same problem that plagues all arm hardware adaptation | 00:34 |
| ali1234 | nobody ever upstreams anything | 00:34 |
| netweaver | I know Pali had issues with his version as well, getting the -110 read errors even on the eMMC, for the stock (and derived) kernels. BUt he managed to fix that. | 00:34 |
| ali1234 | and when a new kernel comes out you have to start over from scratch | 00:35 |
| netweaver | He upstreamed his RX-51 support to the uboot team. But obviously something is still missing | 00:35 |
| ali1234 | well all you can do is start reading the code and trying to figure out what is different | 00:37 |
| netweaver | lots of stuff :D | 00:38 |
| ali1234 | it could easily be caused by some obscure clock setting not even part of the mmc driver | 00:38 |
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| ali1234 | you can try reverting patches | 00:39 |
| ali1234 | of course then later patches won't apply | 00:39 |
| ali1234 | so then you have to start editing those | 00:39 |
| netweaver | that's why I was hoping that you, as an experienced person, could have a better idea where to look first. I saw the power setting on the mmc subsystem coming from the TWL4030 was different, as far as I can see it. | 00:40 |
| ali1234 | i don't know what that means | 00:40 |
| ali1234 | there are only two things you can trust | 00:40 |
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| ali1234 | actual values read out from the hardware | 00:41 |
| ali1234 | and git history | 00:41 |
| ali1234 | you are wasting your time trying to compare small snippets of code when all of the rest of the kernel can be completely different | 00:41 |
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| netweaver | ok ... looks like the uboot way has more chance of success then ... | 00:42 |
| ali1234 | i have seen timeouts caused by excessively slow debugging printks | 00:42 |
| ali1234 | it can be caused by anything in any part of the kernel pretty much | 00:43 |
| ali1234 | i know for a fact that the history on u-boot between the two version is huge | 00:43 |
| ali1234 | because i had to bisect it to make the new version work | 00:43 |
| ali1234 | and it hardly works at all in the intermediate revisions | 00:44 |
| netweaver | my courage is getting below the freezing point now :) | 00:45 |
| ali1234 | your best bet is to read the datasheet and learn how to reset mmc properly | 00:45 |
| ali1234 | and then implement that | 00:45 |
| ali1234 | forget about any old versions, they are probably just as buggy as the current one | 00:46 |
| netweaver | ok. any reference for the subsystem I can look for on the TI site ? | 00:47 |
| ali1234 | http://www.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/OMAP34xx_ES3.1.x_PUBLIC_TRM_vZT.zip | 00:47 |
| ali1234 | enjoy :) | 00:48 |
| ali1234 | see chapter 22 | 00:48 |
| netweaver | thanks. I'll start digging ... | 00:48 |
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| netweaver | 22.3.1.2 I guess | 00:51 |
| netweaver | hard and soft reset | 00:51 |
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| ali1234 | well in short i have no idea how to fix this | 00:53 |
| ali1234 | i don't work like that | 00:53 |
| ali1234 | i look at the code and find bugs and then fix them until it works | 00:54 |
| ali1234 | if i can't look at the code, and the history, and compare them, i can't do anything | 00:54 |
| netweaver | I see your point :) Thanks for the thinking along anyhow ! | 00:56 |
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| ali1234 | wait | 01:00 |
| ali1234 | are you sure you rebuilt the kernel properly with those patches? | 01:01 |
| netweaver | on OBS yes ... | 01:02 |
| ali1234 | where is your project? | 01:03 |
| netweaver | again, as far as I know. Every patch I applied I had a different behavour on the N900 during kernel boot. SO my patches were surely taking into account. I tried each separately and together ... | 01:04 |
| ali1234 | so where is your project? i want to see your spec file | 01:04 |
| netweaver | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3ANetweaver%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3AN900 | 01:05 |
| netweaver | it's only one of the 3 trials you can see now of course | 01:06 |
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| ali1234 | i can see the revisions | 01:07 |
| ali1234 | well as for the patches you tried | 01:08 |
| ali1234 | linux-2.6.37-OMAP-mmc_restore-power-mode.patch does nothing | 01:09 |
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| ali1234 | and the DTO patch is almost certainly unrelated | 01:10 |
| netweaver | ??? | 01:10 |
| ali1234 | the only change in the first patch is to check the regulator is turned on before turning it off | 01:10 |
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| ali1234 | also it sets something to -1 | 01:11 |
| ali1234 | which isn't a vlid value anyway | 01:12 |
| netweaver | I took that idea from the arm-ubuntu team, not clever enough (yet) myself to come up with that ... I gave the link in the patch header text | 01:12 |
| netweaver | both patches were for identical error messages as we had, so it was worth a try. | 01:13 |
| netweaver | error -110 is time-out. BUt of course one can have a time out due to LOTS of reasons :) | 01:14 |
| ali1234 | hmmm... | 01:16 |
| netweaver | if the whole chip/subsystem is sleeping (or half asleep), then one can ask for responses forever ... | 01:16 |
| ali1234 | host->power_mode = | 01:16 |
| ali1234 | well, it isn;t powered off when you boot from u-boot | 01:16 |
| ali1234 | so this might be slightly related | 01:17 |
| ali1234 | what does -1 actually mean in this context? | 01:17 |
| netweaver | it might be also be in this smart-idle mode ... | 01:17 |
| ali1234 | here's an idea | 01:17 |
| netweaver | depending on the init done in u-boot | 01:17 |
| ali1234 | the code expectes it to be turned off | 01:17 |
| ali1234 | so turn it off | 01:18 |
| ali1234 | in omap_hsmmc_probe | 01:18 |
| ali1234 | have you ever tried to boot a mainline kernel? | 01:20 |
| ali1234 | like 3.4 or something? | 01:20 |
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| netweaver | no, never did ... I only got this deep last week :) | 01:21 |
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| ali1234 | i will try it tomorrow | 01:21 |
| netweaver | you're in CET timezone as well ? | 01:21 |
| ali1234 | no | 01:22 |
| ali1234 | UK | 01:22 |
| ali1234 | GMT | 01:22 |
| netweaver | ok. | 01:22 |
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| netweaver | I'll see what I can do on the powering off ... I did change laptop HD in the mean time, so I need to some setup time again to create the patch :) | 01:24 |
| ali1234 | lolz | 01:24 |
| ali1234 | just set up a local build | 01:24 |
| ali1234 | it's so much easier | 01:24 |
| netweaver | if I get the bloody thing to compile, surely. I tried 2 toolchains, both didn't swallow it. Of course it probably was my mistake somewhere. I'm not exactly a seasoned kernel hacker, that's probably why I liked the OBS building | 01:27 |
| ali1234 | i will try to figure out the history of this code | 01:29 |
| ali1234 | it will probably take a couple of days to do that though | 01:30 |
| ali1234 | since i'll have to figure out what order the patches go in | 01:30 |
| ali1234 | i bet at least one of them is a monster as well | 01:30 |
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| netweaver | np. I'm sure a lot of N900 owners would be very greatful ! | 01:30 |
| ali1234 | if they're that desperate they could just use the old u-boot? | 01:31 |
| netweaver | Pali's u-boot version is really opening up u-boot for the masses, very user friendly, on-the-fly generation of boot.scr code etc. It's usage can really take off, if it would also allow Nemo | 01:32 |
| ali1234 | what's the point? | 01:32 |
| ali1234 | developers should be shipping a boot.scr with their images | 01:33 |
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| netweaver | it replaces the functionality of multiboot in a u-boot way. Select kernels/OS to boot on the fly, easy update commands to include new kernels in the menu. Perfect for safe testing of new stuff. | 01:35 |
| netweaver | Just thinking about the powered-off thing: when booting your uboot version, it isn't powered off either, otherwise it couldn't read the ukernel file off the SD card ... | 01:43 |
| netweaver | unless of course you switch it off right after reading that file. But as you don't touch the HW at all ... | 01:45 |
| ali1234 | makes sense | 01:47 |
| ali1234 | we had this same problem with usb before | 01:48 |
| ali1234 | if you use it in u-boot it doesn't work in the kernel | 01:48 |
| netweaver | so how comes it works in your u-boot ? Magic touch ? :) | 01:49 |
| netweaver | Anyhow, close to 3 am here, need to get some sleep. at 8 am I'm having a conf call, I want to have some rest before. Thanks for looking at it, I'll also think along and try as u suggested. Not sure how far I'll get though. | 01:55 |
| netweaver | Is it ok if I refer in the bug to this conversation, for people to have a background of the issue ? | 01:56 |
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| netweaver | I'm going to hit the sack. Feel free to PM me on TMO, same nick. Or here, on #mer, #meego or #nemomobile. good night as well ! | 02:04 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 05:44 |
| _av500_ | ing | 05:44 |
| odin_ | morning! | 05:47 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, just to get you started, make an image with mer 0.20120209.0.0.2 and with this added in %post section (show me .ks afterwards), http://pastie.org/3346372 | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | this should strip 13-20 mb | 06:21 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK. Now we are having a meeting. I will start this work immediately after the meeting:) | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: alright | 06:23 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Maybe half an hour, | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine, i haven't had my morning coffee yet :) | 06:24 |
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| sonach | thank you for your hard work:) | 06:24 |
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| vgrade | morning | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | morn vgrade | 07:16 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: .0.0.3 with mer-next today? | 07:29 |
| Sage | planning to push the libpng in as well? | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | i'm hoping to, but i can't promise | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | we still have COBS non-sb2 enablement | 07:30 |
| Sage | ah, that thing | 07:30 |
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| Venemo_N950 | good morning guys :) | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | morn Venemo_N950 | 07:35 |
| Venemo_N950 | I see that someone commented on my bug :) I'll try the instructions as soon as I get home today! :) | 07:36 |
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| Stskeeps | morn ramez | 07:59 |
| InformatiQ | good morning Stskeeps | 07:59 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3346686, the ks file, | 08:02 |
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| Stskeeps | thanks, i'll just make a similar copy myself locally | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | so i can test out things before making you do them ;) | 08:05 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: very sorry. We are still at meeting... the wifi connection is bad... | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: that's perfectly okay :) | 08:08 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Uncompressed image, 25MB stripped. | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: thought as much | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | let me just finish some stuff and i'll get started looking closer into this | 08:16 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK:) | 08:17 |
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| vgrade | HP Slate 500 now runnig Mer and Plasma Active | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | what SOC is that? | 08:28 |
| vgrade | Atom Z540 1.86GHz Processor | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | graphics chip? | 08:30 |
| vgrade | GMA500 | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | with GLES working, too? | 08:32 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, only seen logs but EMGD driver is installed | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:33 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: http://pastie.org/3346962 | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | can you try to boot that? | 09:17 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: no at that time, but soon. | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine | 09:18 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I find that there are still many things under usr/share/locale, | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | yes, this one cleans them out | 09:21 |
| alterego | Interestingly: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170 | 09:23 |
| alterego | Why is this assigned to me? :) | 09:23 |
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| Stskeeps | alterego: mer wiki maybe | 09:23 |
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| Stskeeps | maybe that default assignee should be need-triage | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ^ | 09:24 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: what do you mean by "this one cleans them out"? | 09:24 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: as in it removes them all | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: it being the .ks file | 09:24 |
| sonach | but these are not removed... | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | the kickstart file i just gave you does :) | 09:25 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: looks like it's to do with some git stuff, nothing to do with any thing I've done :D | 09:25 |
| sonach | ah, when does Mer remove them? | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: look at %post section | 09:25 |
| sonach | when Mer's boot-up? | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: just assign it to need-triage@ | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: no, when making the image | 09:25 |
| sonach | but they will still exist in jffs2 file, | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 09:26 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Now in the image, they are still there, | 09:26 |
| slaine | morning all | 09:26 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: if you make the .ks i gave you in http://pastie.org/3346962 , they won't be in the image result | 09:27 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: in ks file, only /usr/share/locale/locale.archive is deleted. others, including "zh_CN", are not removed, | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: see the: | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | cd /usr/share/locale | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | find -type d -not -name en_US -not -name . | xargs rm -rf | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | that goes into usr/share/locale and removes anything but en_US | 09:30 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: this is done. So in fact this command can be added to %post section later:) | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i'm trying to make a .ks that has smaller footprint by standard | 09:32 |
| sonach | cool:) | 09:32 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: was thinking about that recently | 09:37 |
| slaine | Was wondering if we should consider limiting Locale's that get installed | 09:37 |
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| Stskeeps | slaine: yeah, that's one factor | 09:38 |
| slaine | Have the glibc locale library rebuilt, I did it before and saved a massive amount of space | 09:39 |
| slaine | the only problem then is how do you offer multi language | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | localegen | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | / localdef | 09:40 |
| slaine | yup | 09:40 |
| slaine | but, from a build perspective, how do you offer it, do we only do en_US builds and specify that you've to pick your locale via a setting in the .ks ? | 09:41 |
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| slaine | Offer a build for the top 3 locales | 09:41 |
| slaine | shrug | 09:41 |
| slaine | Something else I did once was to work on an image stripping tool. | 09:42 |
| slaine | you would analyze what files in an image had never been touched after a full test cycle, use that as a template for files to remove. | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, probably | 09:43 |
| slaine | Well, that's more specialized | 09:44 |
| slaine | might not be applicable | 09:45 |
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| slaine | it might be something to look at where the rpm package can be stripped of unneeded files. | 09:45 |
| slaine | There's also the nodocs option that stops man and info pages getting installed, not sure if you're already using that one. | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | we're already using that one | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | very useful thing | 09:46 |
| slaine | yup | 09:46 |
| slaine | I remember years ago having to basically strip out stuff manually by creating new .spec files for everything | 09:46 |
| slaine | took a couple of weeks but we had a 32mb appliance at the end of it. | 09:46 |
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| Stskeeps | i think that if i manage to do what i think to do, with my split of core and toolchain, we have something truly awesome and flexible | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | just have to get some items off my backlog.. | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:50 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning mdfe | 09:57 |
| mdfe_ | good morning | 09:58 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 09:58 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: cannot boot: http://pastie.org/3347193 | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: well, at least it gets to login :) | 10:15 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I will go home now, after about 2 hours I will be online. Hope you are accessible:) | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | see you | 10:15 |
| sonach | see you:) | 10:15 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: have you considered building Mer core with uClibc ? | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: i've considered it but it gives as many problems as building with bionic | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | first step is eglibc and then toolchain-core split | 10:21 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: are these so tightly bound to glibc? :/ | 10:29 |
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| smoku | a friend of mine has a complete gentoo desktop system built with uclibc | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: well, maybe, maybe not | 10:31 |
| smoku | yes, he's a speed optimisation freak ;-) but he tells me that it works fine | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: either way, the thing i'm going towards is a split between toolchain and core, so core doesn't need to be self-hosting | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | and we bootstrap glibc from x86 side | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | and optionally bionic, etc | 10:31 |
| smoku | cool idea :) | 10:31 |
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| Stskeeps | one of the reasons why i wanted to go with sb2 | 10:32 |
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| smoku | oh. now I get it. "it gives problems" as it's problematic to be done, not that it won't worka after | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, as in it's a pandora's box of possible issues | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | but it might just work | 10:34 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt, phaeron: re OBS packaging, see git://github.com/openSUSE/open-build-service.git | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | err... | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, phaeron: https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=obs-server.spec&package=obs-server&project=openSUSE%3ATools&rev=db8d0e14904bf36e313df494407b97ee | 10:46 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: thanks (was going to use that) | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | see the comments | 10:47 |
| lbt | alterego: it's mainly because the wiki is "yours" - feel free to reassign including to "needs-triage" ....if you don't want to be default assignee then that's fine too. | 10:47 |
| phaeron | https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=obs-server.spec&package=obs-server&project=openSUSE%3ATools%3AUnstable the one for latest 2.3 .. | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: made an item for first advisory board meeting regarding presenting current project finances, so we should set up a spreadsheet | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | just so there's a overview of our operation costs | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | and who pitches in | 10:48 |
| lbt | How about an open wiki page for suggestions | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | for the agenda? gets difficult to discuss and manage | 10:50 |
| lbt | on the obs side this is my main worry : https://build.opensuse.org/project/packages?project=openSUSE%3ATools | 10:50 |
| lbt | not an open page to define the agenda | 10:50 |
| lbt | an open page for suggestions for the agenda - no promises it will get read or responded too | 10:51 |
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| Stskeeps | i prefer the mailing list, that makes sure there's a public sanity check and discussion beforehand | 10:52 |
| lbt | or maybe people can send emails with a certain subject | 10:52 |
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| Stskeeps | i just want to avoid the rather erm, not so sane TSG process | 10:52 |
| lbt | something to help collate ideas | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | i'm rebasing my sb2 obs patches atm and i hate shell quoting | 10:53 |
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| lbt | intermediate vars | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | try to make a sane chroot() wrapper | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i'm of the belief that it's more likely that items will come up during discussion and formalized through an email to put it on the agenda | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | or during irc discussion | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | or during a bar visit | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | so a wiki page is just bound to grow stale | 10:54 |
| lbt | [09/02/2012 10:52] <lbt> or maybe people can send emails with a certain subject | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | there is actually a method described | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:55 |
| lbt | I'd thought of a piratepad too | 10:55 |
| lbt | or something disposable before each meeting | 10:55 |
| lbt | eg erase the wiki page and if someone wants to re-raise then feel free | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 10:56 |
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| Stskeeps | let's explore it, at least for first meeting we have a method | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00214.html | 10:56 |
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| Stskeeps | the last part should probably go on wiki | 10:57 |
| lbt | yep | 10:57 |
| lbt | so you select the agenda? | 10:58 |
| chouchoune | lbt: piratepad software is etherpad | 10:58 |
| lbt | or do we triage? | 10:58 |
| lbt | chouchoune: yeah - I'd thought of running one for meego but never got round to it | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: 48 hour sanity check and provided it is sane, it goes on agenda | 10:59 |
| lbt | I wanted it to be able to be used as the wiki editor | 10:59 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: ok - just chatting whilst I drink coffee :) | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:00 |
| * lbt has FOSDEM Flu :( | 11:00 | |
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| lbt | so coherence worse than normal | 11:01 |
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| lbt | nb ... totally failed to get IMG working last night | 11:01 |
| mdfe_ | bless you | 11:01 |
| lbt | mdfe_: :) | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: worse coherence.. so you write emails in book form? ;) | 11:02 |
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| lbt | I got a publisher and an editor and everything.... | 11:02 |
| phaeron | lbt: I went into coma yesterday | 11:02 |
| lbt | phaeron: you were looking at IMG too? | 11:02 |
| phaeron | proverbially | 11:02 |
| phaeron | lbt: I was waiting for you .. :D | 11:03 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: are you saying I'm wordy? | 11:03 |
| lbt | phaeron: I was asleep at the keyboard | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: hehe, it's gotten better ;) | 11:03 |
| lbt | :) | 11:03 |
| lbt | oops.... need to move the car | 11:03 |
| lbt | bbias | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | we're at 100% succeeded with MIPS now, btw | 11:03 |
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| lbt | phaeron: http://pastie.org/3347395 | 11:04 |
| lbt | I think there's an issue with zypper solving on the img VM | 11:04 |
| lbt | bbiam | 11:04 |
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| phaeron | lbt: 1- use testing or unstable qemu for debian worker. but as I said debian worker is not very stable. 2- NFS works fine for collecting the worker results, what's wrong with that ? | 11:07 |
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| phaeron | lbt: 2- Mer:Tools is supposed to start providing SDK tools, mic2 is supposed to be one of them , right ? | 11:08 |
| phaeron | that was 3- | 11:08 |
| phaeron | and it does _not_ need nested kvm | 11:08 |
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| phaeron | looking at 4 | 11:11 |
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| phaeron | lbt: uninstallable providers: python-boss-skynet-0.6.2-1.1.noarch[Project_MINT_Testing] .. any idea or details on why ? | 11:11 |
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| lbt | phaeron: back now | 11:37 |
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| alterego | Stskeeps: I ordered a few of those TTL level USB serial cables, works fine under Linux :) Not bad for 4EUR :) | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | image upload working yet? | 11:48 |
| alterego | I'll look in to it now. | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 11:48 |
| phaeron | lbt: read backlog | 11:50 |
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| lbt | phaeron: just doing that | 11:50 |
| lbt | I don't know why unless it has too many choices | 11:50 |
| lbt | zypper in python-boss-skynet complains about supervisor | 11:50 |
| Cwalle | i've download the mer rootfs to my S3C6410 board, and it seems worked! but still some wrong i could not figure out,could you help me understand: http://pastie.org/3347583 | 11:50 |
| phaeron | lbt: what's the complain ? | 11:51 |
| lbt | zypper in supervisor complains about python-elemtree | 11:51 |
| phaeron | I would look if I knew which machine | 11:51 |
| lbt | zypper in python-elementtree complains about python2.7 | 11:51 |
| lbt | zypper in python-2.7 works | 11:51 |
| lbt | wtf | 11:51 |
| lbt | imgw1 | 11:51 |
| lbt | new suse11.4 | 11:51 |
| Cwalle | it looked like lose some file in mer rootfs | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: congratulations on first bootup :) | 11:53 |
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| Cwalle | Stskeeps: you see the messages?is that mean the mer is up? | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: you need a patch .. hang on | 11:54 |
| Cwalle | but i can only see a '?' in my lcd | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: how does your .ks look? | 11:55 |
| Cwalle | hang on... | 11:55 |
| Cwalle | Stskeep: | 11:57 |
| Cwalle | http://pastie.org/3347633 | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: well, you're not asking it to put anything on the screen :) | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: try to log into the device | 11:58 |
| Cwalle | Ooo | 11:58 |
| alterego | lbt: would you please do the honours of testing file uploads work? | 11:58 |
| alterego | :) | 11:58 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps: you said i need a patch?what is that? | 11:58 |
| lbt | sure - assign the bug to me? | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: user mer , password rootme | 11:58 |
| * phaeron hates that password | 12:00 | |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps: i can not input anything in my host terminal | 12:00 |
| Cwalle | haha... | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: hmm, interesting | 12:00 |
| alterego | Done | 12:01 |
| alterego | lbt: ^ | 12:01 |
| lbt | ta | 12:01 |
| alterego | Are 3 letter searches really that important? | 12:01 |
| lbt | yes | 12:01 |
| lbt | img | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: 'mic' 'mer' .. | 12:01 |
| lbt | mic | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:01 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps: any suggestions? | 12:01 |
| alterego | Heh | 12:01 |
| alterego | Stop being lazy and use the proper names? :P | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | it's really mic | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:02 |
| alterego | You'r not going to be search for "Mer" on the "Mer" wiki :P | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: not sure why you can't type anything | 12:02 |
| Cwalle | now i am restarting again | 12:02 |
| alterego | Interesting, the issue is actually mysql having a minimum search string length | 12:03 |
| alterego | (lol) | 12:03 |
| lbt | alterego: obs arm mds | 12:03 |
| alterego | lbt: yeah, I get the picture :P | 12:03 |
| alterego | I'm only lowering it to three though. | 12:03 |
| lbt | *g* | 12:04 |
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| Cwalle | Stskeeps: you mean if everything is ok(the log message i've pasted out) i am getting into the linux terminal and i can use the user name and password to log into mer? | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: yes, it looks okay for a first startup | 12:08 |
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| Stskeeps | you should be able to log in | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | ahh.. | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | no | 12:08 |
| Cwalle | my USB-UART driver seems not work file | 12:08 |
| Cwalle | ?? | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | moment | 12:08 |
| andrnils | is systemd-logind[176]: Failed to open /sys/class/tty/tty0/active: No such file or directory really expected? | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | andrnils: it's expected as we use a backported patch from .37 | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | andrnils: we have one that applies against .32 and up | 12:10 |
| andrnils | ok | 12:10 |
| andrnils | same for utmp then? | 12:10 |
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| alterego | whoop[s | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | utmp is a known issue and i think we fixed it in next core | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: ? | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: while you're at it, could you do a backup of the wiki database? ;) | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: use this .ks: http://pastie.org/3347717 | 12:12 |
| Cwalle | ok,trying right now | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: the thing in %post is what matters | 12:13 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: backups happen every night :P | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: good | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:13 |
| alterego | Erm .. | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | what did you screw up? | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:13 |
| w00t_CPH | ^ things you never want to hear when talking about backups | 12:14 |
| alterego | Nothing, just can't tell if I've fixed the 3 letter search bug | 12:14 |
| alterego | MIC doesn't bring any results. | 12:14 |
| slaine | heheh, installing MeeGo 1.2 on my Dell mini9 again | 12:15 |
| slaine | didn't think I'd cave, but I'm getting lots of emails to update my Broadcom howto | 12:15 |
| slaine | o | 12:15 |
| alterego | In theory it should work now .. | 12:15 |
| alterego | Ah, it is working :D | 12:16 |
| alterego | Woo! | 12:16 |
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| lbt | alterego: thanks :) | 12:16 |
| lbt | mmm | 12:17 |
| lbt | define working? :) | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | are you clicking 'go' or 'search' | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:18 |
| lbt | yes | 12:18 |
| alterego | lol | 12:18 |
| alterego | I did a search for "ARM" and it worked :P | 12:18 |
| lbt | you just reach out and press on the screen .... right? | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: touch and go | 12:18 |
| lbt | :) | 12:18 |
| lbt | alterego: no, I think you did a 'go' for arm | 12:19 |
| lbt | a search fails | 12:19 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=arm&fulltext=Search | 12:19 |
| lbt | (here at least) | 12:19 |
| alterego | Oh, | 12:20 |
| alterego | Yeah, you're right | 12:20 |
| alterego | Fixed | 12:20 |
| alterego | :P | 12:20 |
| alterego | Needed to restart mysql, force-reload didn't have any effect. | 12:20 |
| lbt | nearly | 12:21 |
| lbt | "No page title matches" | 12:21 |
| alterego | Well, it didn't have the desired effect. | 12:21 |
| lbt | could be a MW bug | 12:21 |
| alterego | Yeah | 12:21 |
| alterego | I think it might be that there are no pages other than "ARM" with that string in the title. | 12:22 |
| lbt | do you need to reindex? | 12:23 |
| alterego | Did that | 12:23 |
| lbt | all tables? (just checking) | 12:23 |
| alterego | Actually I didn't. | 12:23 |
| alterego | Because when I reindexed it was before I restarted mysql, so the new 3 letter parameter search criteria hadn't been taken in to account. | 12:24 |
| alterego | Anyway, looks better now. | 12:24 |
| lbt | it's possible the page title is searched somewhere other than the table used for body | 12:24 |
| slaine | lbt, Did you finish off your HA wiki page ? | 12:24 |
| lbt | ah... | 12:24 |
| lbt | slaine: I've added more to it | 12:24 |
| alterego | Looks good now lbt | 12:24 |
| slaine | I haven't looked at it since you started it first lbt, so I imagine you've added a lot to it since then. I'll check it out over lunch | 12:24 |
| lbt | thanks | 12:24 |
| lbt | slaine: yep - comments welcome | 12:25 |
| slaine | yup | 12:25 |
| lbt | alterego: ah... much nicer | 12:25 |
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| alterego | lbt, What would you like the session timeout to be? | 12:26 |
| lbt | alterego: actually I think that may have been partly my issue - it wasn't remembering me - but I think 24h is sane | 12:26 |
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| alterego | It seems to be set to 180 minutes | 12:27 |
| alterego | Which seems fine tbh .. | 12:27 |
| alterego | I'll leave it for now and let me know if it annoys you again. | 12:27 |
| lbt | yeah - it isn't causing me issues anymore | 12:28 |
| alterego | Or someone complains. | 12:28 |
| alterego | (else) | 12:28 |
| lbt | next task is to get a VM setup and migrate this to the infra | 12:28 |
| lbt | mainly to link to ldap | 12:28 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps:"the thing in %post is what matters" what's that means | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: if you see the ln -s thing | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: that's what brings up your serial console | 12:30 |
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| sonach | absolutely, | 12:42 |
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| sonach | I have loginned in, | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | cool, does the usual stuff seem to work, ps, ls, cd ? | 12:43 |
| sonach | yes | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | ok, good | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | lsmod? | 12:44 |
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| sonach | yes, lsmod can work | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | does it show the framebuffer as loaded like it should? | 12:44 |
| sonach | yes | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | but uxlaunch fails to boot qtmediahub? | 12:45 |
| sonach | Xorg.0.log needed? | 12:45 |
| sonach | yes, | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps, yeah | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | and /home/mer/.xsession-errors | 12:45 |
| sonach | Xorg.0.log: http://pastie.org/3347879 | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | looks correct | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | and .xsession-errors? | 12:47 |
| sonach | http://pastie.org/3347890 | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | ifconfig -a | 12:48 |
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| HUELK | hi all im trying to build a mer image and get this error: Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option. how to solve that | 12:49 |
| sonach | no ifconfig | 12:49 |
| sonach | I haven't add net-tools to image, | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: well that explains that possibly | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | /bin/busybox ifconfig -a | 12:49 |
| HUELK | im using this ks http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_x86_usb_live_and_install_archive/2012-02-09-10-52-basyskom-plasma-active-devel-mer-usb-live.ks | 12:51 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: no busybox! | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, it might not be in /bin | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: .. there should be a /bin/busybox for sure :) | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | i have it in my image | 12:55 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: but in fact no, I will show you files under /bin, | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:56 |
| sonach | http://pastie.org/3347919 | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: that looks like an old image | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3347927 is mine | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | and you used the .ks i sent earlier today? | 12:57 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: it's new. because: | 12:58 |
| sonach | [root@localhost locale]# ls /usr/share/locale/ | 12:58 |
| sonach | en_US locale.alias | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | can you show me the .ks? | 12:58 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I have cached rpms. Is this related? | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | that should be fine | 12:59 |
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| Stskeeps | it might be that i'm using new 'mic' and you're still using mic2 | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | but i need to see some thing about that | 12:59 |
| sonach | ks: http://pastie.org/3347940 | 13:00 |
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| Stskeeps | ah.. | 13:00 |
| sonach | oh yes, I use mic2 of Ubuntu11.10. | 13:00 |
| sonach | you find something interesting?? | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: http://pastie.org/3346962 was the last .ks i gave you ;) | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | so use that instead | 13:01 |
| sonach | oh sorry!! | 13:02 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps:it not work too! but after some time it show something like http://pastie.org/3347973 | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ah no problem, that's why i set up a local copy to check :) | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: ok, sec | 13:05 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: can you compile your own kernel? | 13:05 |
| Cwalle | yes!it is used for my android,is that related | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: http://gitorious.org/opensuse/kernel-source/blobs/raw/7ae6e9aa3ac54de2eb3e2b08d9cefe3479365dcf/patches.drivers/tty-add-active-sysfs-attribute-to-tty0-and-console-device | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | apply that patc | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | h | 13:06 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I am building the image. the wifi connection is not very good.... | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: also, make sure that http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide options are enabled | 13:07 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: hehe, things take the time they take :) | 13:07 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps:yeah, i've followed the guide. i'll check again | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: it didn't have CONFIG_CGROUPS at least it looks like | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: out of curiousity, what kind of S3C6410 board is it? | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: i have a SmartQ5 at home, which is 6410 too | 13:09 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps: it is just a third part made board in my city | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:10 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps;is the patch you gave me just now can fix the CONFIG_CGROUPS? | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: no, that's another problem but may help fix the serial console issue | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | it was my first positive experience with china manufacturers -- they sent us free smartq5 and smartq7 and when we asked if we could have the kernel source so we could do development, they gave us kernel sources, bootloader sources and everything needed | 13:12 |
| Cwalle | there seem no CONFIG_CGROUPS in my kernel configure file | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | ok, it should be added then | 13:12 |
| Cwalle | wow! what a nice company | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | kernel sources are of course obligatory to publish and so on, but they did it without demanding anything back :) | 13:13 |
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| Cwalle | Stskeeps: could i ask for the linux kernel source you used for your 6410 board | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | Cwalle: it's very old, but sure | 13:14 |
| Cwalle | now the kernel i used is for android | 13:15 |
| sonach | Cwalle: I think you can get kernel source from the cdrom released with 6410, | 13:15 |
| Stskeeps | http://gitorious.org/mer-smartq/mer-smartq-kernel | 13:15 |
| Stskeeps | but it's too old for mer, sadly | 13:15 |
| Cwalle | Ooo | 13:15 |
| Cwalle | back to the CONFIG_CGROUPS, how can i add this driver | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | maybe there is a # CONFIG_CGROUPS is not set | 13:17 |
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| Cwalle | sonach:you are right,maybe that is a easy way | 13:17 |
| Cwalle | Stskeeps,let me search... | 13:18 |
| HUELK | anyone can help me with this: Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option. | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | HUELK: sudo mic-create-bootstrap -n trunk -k /var/cache/mic -r http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/latest/repos/oss/ia32/packages/ -o /var/cache/meego-bootstrap | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | HUELK: and then try command again | 13:19 |
| HUELK | Stskeeps: ok thank you | 13:21 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: with new image, cannot boot... | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: what errors do you get? | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i didn't expect it to work first time :) | 13:22 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | (please show me whole boot log) | 13:23 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: this is the only log diffferent with previous | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | ok, i'd like to see still | 13:23 |
| sonach | ok, | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | from kernel start to when it stops talking | 13:23 |
| sonach | http://pastie.org/3348087 | 13:24 |
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| Stskeeps | okay, that's not good :) | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | can you try to do ls -l /sbin/init ? | 13:25 |
| sonach | ls: /sbin/init: No such file or directory | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | exec /bin/systemd | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | (as in, that exact command) | 13:27 |
| sonach | I will show you the log, pastie.org is very slow.... | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: add systemd-sysv to %packages , that's why it doesn't start up (woops) | 13:30 |
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| ali1234 | Stskeeps: do you know anything about this nemo kernel + u-boot sd card thing? | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: i don't know what goes wrong there, no | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: uboot-pr13 + nemo kernel works fine | 13:34 |
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| ali1234 | do you know where i can get the n900 kernel adaptation from git? | 13:34 |
| ali1234 | yeah, that's what i gathered | 13:34 |
| ali1234 | all i know is the omap support in u-boot was completely rewritten | 13:35 |
| ali1234 | so looking at the changes in u-boot is probably a waste of time | 13:35 |
| ali1234 | but supposedly new u-boot works with other kernels | 13:35 |
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| ali1234 | is there even a well defined history between, say, kernel-power and kernel-nemo? | 13:36 |
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| ali1234 | or did someone start over and cherry pick patches? | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | no history | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | kernel-nemo is a rebase and upstreaming on top of .37 | 13:36 |
| ali1234 | a rebase from what tho? | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | ie, we actually submitted things to main kernel and applied it to mainline | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | as in taking patches / reworking on top of them, from n900 product kernel | 13:37 |
| ali1234 | does mainline boot in a sensible way? | 13:37 |
| ali1234 | oh, as in manual rebase :/ | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | it's fairly well supported | 13:37 |
| ali1234 | ok. i'll try some various mainlines and see which ones boot/ or not | 13:37 |
| ali1234 | maybe i can reproduce it there and then just bisect | 13:38 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3348145 | 13:40 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: it is the uxlaunch's start log | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, so not bad | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i'll have to spend some time testing this myself, thanks for trying it out | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | how big was the jffs2 image? | 13:42 |
| HUELK | on every image that i compiled in the last 4 days i always get this error Target initialization failed: Failed to cache rpm database (132) why is that | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | HUELK: show the surrounding error please | 13:43 |
| HUELK | there is nothing else the error appears after i run zypper refresh from a mic-chroot | 13:44 |
| HUELK | thats the whole output | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | HUELK: arm or x86? | 13:44 |
| HUELK | x86 | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | cat /proc/cpuinfo | 13:44 |
| HUELK | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.com/fUZrnWAe | 13:45 |
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| Stskeeps | HUELK: you may potentially have run into the fact your CPU does not support SSSE3 | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | and i don't think plasma active builds for mer's i486 port right now | 13:46 |
| ali1234 | orly? | 13:46 |
| ali1234 | shouldn't it get killed with a signal if that happened? | 13:47 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: There is some connection error with me... the uxlaunch start log is :http://pastie.org/3348145 | 13:47 |
| HUELK | hmm thats bad so i have no other chance than use a precompiled image | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | HUELK: if i were you i would ask them to build for i486 too | 13:47 |
| HUELK | the target device is x86 only | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, how big is jffs2 image? | 13:47 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: 94502912 | 13:48 |
| ali1234 | HUELK: likely a precompiled image wouldn't work either, if that is really the problem | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, so not that bad | 13:48 |
| ali1234 | i'm not 100% convinced though :) | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i have to spend some time to test this out myself but it looks better than expected | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: thanks for trying it out | 13:49 |
| ali1234 | HUELK: i can take a look at this while waiting for kernels to build ... are you following some guide? what ks are you using? | 13:49 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Thank you very much:) If you need me to try something out, just touch me on IRC:) | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: alright | 13:50 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: another thing. Now the mainstream STB of Chinese markset is 256MB RAM, 128MB Flash. But 256MB flash is OK. | 13:51 |
| HUELK | Stskeeps: i use the ks file form mdfe_ from #active and just use "sudo mic-image-creator --config=mer-plasma.ks --cache=/var/cache/meego-bootstrap --pkgmgr=yum --format=fs" to build the image | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, i would like to make the footprint lower anyway | 13:51 |
| HUELK | Stskeeps: my ks is this http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_x86_usb_live_and_install_archive/2012-02-09-10-52-basyskom-plasma-active-devel-mer-usb-live.ks | 13:51 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: as for RAM, usually half of it(i.e, 128MB) will be allocated for hardware video decoder and graphics, so we can use only 128MB. | 13:52 |
| HUELK | i had that problem with some meego images too and had to try different repos until i found on that works | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: that does help specifying how much is needed | 13:52 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: So memory will be a severe task for me later:) | 13:53 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Yes. It is the need of market:) | 13:53 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: see you then:) | 13:54 |
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| ali1234 | i get "Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option." | 13:55 |
| HUELK | why do i need ssse3 for a i586 build i mean it doesnt support it does it? | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | HUELK: bad inheritance, intel called their ssse3 build i586 | 13:57 |
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| HUELK | wtf? | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 13:58 |
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| Stskeeps | :P | 13:58 |
| ali1234 | what is http://repo.pub.meego.com/CE:/Adaptation:/x86-generic/Mer_Core_i586/ | 13:58 |
| ali1234 | is it generic, or i586? | 13:58 |
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| Stskeeps | ali1234: kinda 'generic x86' ie, kernel/drivers, just not built for i486.. | 13:59 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: is bad inheritance something like bad touch? ;-) | 13:59 |
| ali1234 | ok. | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: [14:19] <Stskeeps> HUELK: sudo mic-create-bootstrap -n trunk -k /var/cache/mic -r http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/latest/repos/oss/ia32/packages/ -o /var/cache/meego-bootstrap | 13:59 |
| ali1234 | what's that? | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | to solve the mainrepo thing | 14:00 |
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| ali1234 | "Error: ("Given output dir '/var/cache/meego-bootstrap' is not empty.", False)" | 14:00 |
| HUELK | ok my target device has an atom cpu which according to wikipedia supports ssse3 i just try to build an liveusb and look if it starts on the device | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | well, whereever | 14:01 |
| ali1234 | how does it solve it? what is it supposed to do? | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: makes a meego bootstrap | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | we're going to go away from that with our platform sdk | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | HUELK: ah, ok | 14:01 |
| * Stskeeps goes take a break | 14:01 | |
| ali1234 | i thought the ks did that? | 14:01 |
| ali1234 | this stuff is too confusing | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: bootstrap to build image with | 14:01 |
| ali1234 | how does that help with mainrepo? | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | mainrepo is a error that comes when bootstrap isn't created | 14:02 |
| HUELK | its is just annoying that i cannot use the speed of my desktop pc | 14:02 |
| ali1234 | and shouldn't the bootstrap be built with i486 packages in our case? | 14:03 |
| ali1234 | wait why do i even need a meego bootstrap? | 14:06 |
| * ali1234 looks at channel name | 14:07 | |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: long story short we're getting rid of that part with our platform sdk stuff, i could explain a little more but it'd be a waste of both our time :) | 14:07 |
| ali1234 | well, making a meego bootstrap didn;t solve the mainrepo problem... | 14:08 |
| smoku | ali1234: what distro are you on? | 14:12 |
| ali1234 | ubuntu | 14:12 |
| ali1234 | precise | 14:12 |
| smoku | so you need bootstrap to have a chroot of working rpm+yum environment | 14:14 |
| ali1234 | i have a working yum+rpm environment, it works fine | 14:14 |
| ali1234 | also, chicken and egg much? | 14:15 |
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| smoku | so what problem do you have building an image without using bootstrap? (pastebin) | 14:16 |
| lbt | ok thanks to some help from phaeron we have IMG working at last - some annoying issues but it is running | 14:16 |
| ali1234 | smoku: "Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option." | 14:16 |
| smoku | ali1234: so, specify it? | 14:18 |
| ali1234 | ok, what is the main repo? | 14:18 |
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| ali1234 | according to manual page it is "one of the repos in the kickstart file" | 14:18 |
| ali1234 | ok, which one is it? | 14:18 |
| phaeron | lbt: back | 14:18 |
| smoku | you have fev repos specified in ks, so mic does not know which one is main :) | 14:18 |
| ali1234 | well that makes two of us then | 14:19 |
| smoku | I don't know how did you call the Mer repo in your ks | 14:19 |
| ali1234 | i have ce_tools, mer-core, mer-core-debuginfo, mer-shared, mer-plasma-shared, mer-extras, plasma, adaptation-x86-generic | 14:20 |
| smoku | --mainrepo=mer-core | 14:20 |
| smoku | should work | 14:20 |
| ali1234 | it does, sort of | 14:20 |
| ali1234 | but it dies later | 14:20 |
| ali1234 | looks like a bug in mic | 14:20 |
| smoku | that's why you need bootstrap | 14:21 |
| ali1234 | i'd rather fix mic | 14:21 |
| smoku | to have a _working_ rpm+yum environment :) | 14:21 |
| ali1234 | looks like a trivial bug | 14:21 |
| ali1234 | it's trying to run /usr/local/bin/mic instead of /usr/bin/mic | 14:21 |
| lbt | ali1234: there's a new pkg pushed | 14:22 |
| lbt | I hit that last night | 14:22 |
| lbt | phaeron fixed it | 14:22 |
| ali1234 | cool | 14:22 |
| ali1234 | now... to wait for it to hit precise | 14:22 |
| * ali1234 holds breath | 14:22 | |
| lbt | rofl | 14:22 |
| lbt | Mer Tools package | 14:22 |
| lbt | mmm | 14:22 |
| lbt | or even MINT:Testing | 14:23 |
| ali1234 | i'm getting a lot of: WARNING: Could not find package 'genisoimage' suitable arch for arch 'None' for bootstrap installation. | 14:25 |
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| ali1234 | shouldn't i specify the arch to something other than "None"? | 14:25 |
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| ali1234 | right, nemo image downloaded, so i'm going back to C hacking :) | 14:37 |
| HUELK | is there a shell only install script i have some probs here with the graphics | 14:46 |
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| Sage | HUELK: what do you mean? | 14:52 |
| lbt | so phaeron I'm mainly worried about the number of dependant packages - especially perl | 14:52 |
| lbt | I don't want to build against suse since that changes a lot | 14:52 |
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| phaeron | lbt: you mean against suse Tools ? | 14:53 |
| lbt | yes | 14:53 |
| phaeron | we can aggregate for ease of installation | 14:53 |
| lbt | we'll need to build against their unstable | 14:54 |
| lbt | for 2.3 branch | 14:54 |
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| lbt | to get things like the solv libs | 14:54 |
| HUELK | can i blacklist the gma500_gfx/psb_gfx at boot | 14:54 |
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| HUELK | i mean from kernel command line | 14:54 |
| lbt | I'd rather copy/sync so we don't suddenly get forced to update when we don't want to | 14:54 |
| phaeron | so if we copy, we don't need to build against their unstable :D | 14:55 |
| lbt | yes | 14:55 |
| lbt | but we do need to track their unstable | 14:55 |
| lbt | hopefully it's not a huge dep list | 14:55 |
| lbt | but it looks like it might be | 14:56 |
| phaeron | the script written by Sage should allow comparing the projects | 14:56 |
| lbt | which? | 14:56 |
| Sage | https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/upstreamchecker/ ? | 14:56 |
| phaeron | yes | 14:57 |
| lbt | so slow | 14:57 |
| Sage | :) | 14:58 |
| lbt | neat | 14:58 |
| phaeron | lbt: Problem: installed python-2.7-9.12.1.x86_64 obsoletes python-elementtree provided by python-elementtree-1.2.6-50.1.x86_64 | 14:58 |
| phaeron | lbt: so this is the real issue I think | 14:58 |
| lbt | ah | 14:59 |
| lbt | and probably doesn't Provide: python-elementtree | 14:59 |
| * Sage is using that script to promote stuff from devel project to official project e.g. ./upstreamchecker.py --source-project=Project:MTF:UX --destination-project=CE:UX:MTF --create-creq-string --show-changelog | 14:59 | |
| lbt | Sage: I had a similar script for maemo-mer back then | 15:00 |
| lbt | not so rich though | 15:00 |
| Sage | I created that script originally to compare MeeGo CE To MeeGo vanilla Trunk ;) | 15:00 |
| Sage | ie. what we should try to push vanilla meego | 15:01 |
| lbt | I guess it's fairly slow | 15:01 |
| Sage | yes it is quite slow | 15:01 |
| lbt | I'd like the meta in the obs DB to include the version as per the changelog or similar | 15:01 |
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| lbt | ok headache too bad ... I'll be biab | 15:05 |
| phaeron | lbt: ok installs smoothly now | 15:09 |
| phaeron | removed elementtree dep from supervisor | 15:09 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: headsup with systemd 41 >= http://pastie.org/3348635 | 15:20 |
| Sage | lbt: ^ might want to note that to adaptation guides as well? | 15:20 |
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| ali1234 | netweaver__ nemo boots fine on recent u-boots here | 15:30 |
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| Netweaver_ | Ali123: Did you take stock -boot builds ? | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | no | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | netweaver_when pali started to work on u-boot he asked me to rebase my patches on recent u-boot | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | which i did | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | that is available here https://github.com/ali1234/u-boot-n900 | 15:47 |
| ali1234 | afaik pali's work is based on that | 15:47 |
| ali1234 | well, my latest version boots nemo just fine | 15:47 |
| ali1234 | so the problem is somewhere in whatever he has added for sure | 15:47 |
| Netweaver_ | so he must have done something to mess things up in his latest variant | 15:47 |
| ali1234 | unless he has rebased on newer u-boot | 15:47 |
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| Crnkoj | hi there | 15:47 |
| ali1234 | where is his git tree? | 15:48 |
| ali1234 | either way, my tree is only about 4 months old | 15:49 |
| ali1234 | so it should be easy to bisect | 15:49 |
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| ali1234 | but i would advise backing out any large changes until you have a very basic u-boot with just enough hardware support and no fancy menus and stuff | 15:49 |
| ali1234 | i'm assuming that they haven't rewritten omap support again | 15:50 |
| ali1234 | seems unlikely since the last time took about 9 months for all the changes to land | 15:51 |
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| Netweaver_ | ali1234: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1150740&postcount=1 | 15:52 |
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| ali1234 | gitorious is so slow :( | 16:00 |
| ali1234 | ok so mine is based on 2011.06 | 16:02 |
| ali1234 | pali is continually rebasing on upstream | 16:02 |
| ali1234 | so... upstream probably broke it | 16:02 |
| ali1234 | ok, i will, first rebase my basic patches on a recent release | 16:09 |
| Crnkoj | hey vgrade are you here ? | 16:11 |
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| ali1234 | i can't log in to nemo buzgilla... | 16:15 |
| Sage | X-Fade: ping | 16:15 |
| ali1234 | wait "please use your merproject.org username - not email" | 16:16 |
| ali1234 | it never asked me for a username | 16:16 |
| ali1234 | help? | 16:17 |
| ali1234 | oh crap | 16:18 |
| ali1234 | i typed my password in the username field | 16:18 |
| ali1234 | brb i have to go change some passwords | 16:18 |
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| ali1234 | er... | 16:52 |
| ali1234 | now i'm confused | 16:52 |
| ali1234 | login name = email? | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | lbt would know | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:52 |
| ali1234 | damn i hate bugzilla soooooooooooooooooo much | 16:53 |
| ali1234 | ok i can log in by using my password as username, so i was right the first time | 16:54 |
| ali1234 | mer bugzilla accepts email address or user name, nemo only accepts user name | 16:55 |
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| ali1234 | Stskeeps: did you know you are admin contact on the bugzilla sign-up emails? ;) | 16:56 |
| Stskeeps | damnit | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:57 |
| ali1234 | i don't even understand how it's possible for me to do what i have done | 16:58 |
| ali1234 | according to bugzilla documentation, the login ID and email are the same thing | 16:58 |
| Stskeeps | we share with a LDAP backend | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | that's why it's a bit confusion | 16:59 |
| ali1234 | and you can modify it through the bugzilla preferences (also seems incorrect) | 16:59 |
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| phaeron | lbt: ping | 17:32 |
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| ali1234 | wait hang on a minute. does gerrit use the same login system? | 17:41 |
| Stskeeps | no, but it ought to | 17:42 |
| ali1234 | ah ok | 17:42 |
| Sage | joggler is gma500 device right? | 17:42 |
| ali1234 | cos i just remembered i already have an account on that | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | right | 17:42 |
| Sage | and lbt has adaptation for it? | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | ish | 17:42 |
| Sage | ish is enough I guess :) | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | as in the gles drivers are xorg server dependent | 17:43 |
| ali1234 | Sage: exobuzz is the joggler expert | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | but runs quite fast in sw rendering for qtmediahub | 17:43 |
| * Sage ponders if that adaptation would boot on viliv s5 | 17:45 | |
| * Sage curses the fedora 16 on his netbook. mic doesn't work :/ | 17:46 | |
| phaeron | Sage: try imager :D | 17:53 |
| smoku | Sage: mic or mic2? | 17:57 |
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| Sage | smoku: mic | 17:58 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: where is our github clone ? https://github.com/Merproject/open-build-service ? | 18:08 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: does it have the needed patches already ? | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | not yet, i'm rebasing | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | just get base checkouts working | 18:12 |
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| Stskeeps | ie, msater | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | master | 18:20 |
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| ali1234 | Netweaver: commit 6dfbf49c6dc3687efbc6d7f9e25bb46ed2d6c833 OMAP3: Remove legacy mmc driver | 18:56 |
| ali1234 | iow they have rewritten the omap drivers AGAIN | 18:56 |
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| _av500_ | omap drivers are permanently under construction | 19:08 |
| _av500_ | they are in stable flux | 19:08 |
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| _av500_ | dm8tbr: ping | 19:09 |
| ali1234 | Netweaver: old code uses drivers/mmc/omap3_mmc.c, new code uses drivers/mmc/omap_hsmmc.c | 19:12 |
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| ali1234 | netweaver: the new driver does a softreset on the mmc | 19:21 |
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| ali1234 | actually the old driver does too | 19:27 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: any eta on the rebase .. the spec file expects some files that are in latest upstream git | 19:33 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: if not I'll use an older spec file | 19:33 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: tomorrow, just use a checkout from upstream git as proof of cocnept | 19:33 |
| phaeron | okie | 19:34 |
| ali1234 | netweaver: pali u-boot git source doesn't work at all | 19:36 |
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| Netweaver_ | ali1234: :) What do you mean ? It works fine (at least the published debs) for the stock and derived kernels in the eMMC. For all the rest I'm doubting indeed. | 20:13 |
| ali1234 | the source code on gitourious does not even boot the kernel | 20:14 |
| ali1234 | it just corrupts the screen then hangs | 20:14 |
| Netweaver_ | that different behaviour than what we see. I even managed once to get a proper blue Mer screen, but also 1000s of error -110 rolling over the screen | 20:15 |
| ali1234 | well i can't do anything with binaries | 20:15 |
| ali1234 | i am trying to fix it | 20:15 |
| Netweaver_ | after that the SD card was corrupted I I had to format it with the sd.org format tool before I could do ANYTHING with it | 20:15 |
| Netweaver_ | the card corruption has been seen by others as well | 20:16 |
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| Netweaver_ | Pali is the only guy who can give us the last state of the code. | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | so yeah... i can't reproduce the bug | 20:17 |
| Netweaver_ | only if u load the binaries, than it's pretty easy to see. BUt v hard to debug I guess | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | yeah there's no point | 20:18 |
| Netweaver_ | Should we ask Pali to share his code, even in the crappy state (as he claims) it is ? | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | *shrug* | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | it's GPL... | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:19 |
| Netweaver_ | I'll add the link to the conversation of today ( after midnight :) ) in the thread, for information on the analysis done and steps taken. I'll ask him to share everything in a proper way, so you can have a better look, on the real code used to create the binaries | 20:21 |
| ali1234 | maybe it's my compiler | 20:21 |
| ali1234 | looks like he uploaded code more recently | 20:21 |
| ali1234 | ok | 20:22 |
| ali1234 | i've got the new driver working in my codebase | 20:22 |
| ali1234 | boots ok | 20:23 |
| ali1234 | still cannot reproduce | 20:23 |
| ali1234 | argh | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | am i still connected? | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | nemo exposes a network device on usb, it made my network manager go crazy | 20:24 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | i have a "wired network disconnected" notification. LIES | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | Netweaver: maybe it's your SD card | 20:26 |
| ali1234 | i'll try pali's binary just to make sure | 20:26 |
| ali1234 | WOAH OK that's definitely broken | 20:29 |
| Netweaver_ | :) you see all -110 errors ? :) | 20:31 |
| ali1234 | yeah error spam | 20:32 |
| Netweaver_ | I tried with 2 cards, at least 4 other people have the same issue. Nobody has been able to boot Nemo properly with the latest Pali u-boot | 20:33 |
| ali1234 | yep | 20:33 |
| ali1234 | i can see that | 20:33 |
| ali1234 | well, i just booted with 2011.12 plus my patches with some very very minor modifications to use the new mmc driver | 20:33 |
| ali1234 | so the scope of possible errors is much smaller now | 20:34 |
| Netweaver_ | it must be a timing issue, as sometimes one manages to get a bit further ... so not all reads are timing out | 20:34 |
| Netweaver_ | I tried with a class 6 and class 10, but there are even people with an older class 2 having the issue. Also booting Nemo from the eMMC is not working fine. | 20:35 |
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| ali1234 | well, i need the source of the actual released binary to do any more | 20:35 |
| ali1234 | but we're close to finding it | 20:35 |
| Netweaver_ | updating the TMO thread now, requesting the code and cooperation with you. I'll put the link here | 20:36 |
| Netweaver_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1162815&postcount=123 | 20:37 |
| phaeron | lbt: ping ? | 20:41 |
| lbt | hey | 20:42 |
| phaeron | where did you disappear | 20:42 |
| phaeron | :) | 20:42 |
| lbt | I have a serious case of man flu | 20:42 |
| lbt | well, serious enough that I'm not going to try and do anything requiring intelligence | 20:44 |
| lbt | so packaging is fine | 20:44 |
| lbt | mmmk .... back to sleep then | 20:45 |
| phaeron | what ... | 20:46 |
| lbt | you pinged me... | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | lbt: any chance you could delete me from the LDAP/SSO stuff? | 20:48 |
| lbt | ali1234: can you clarify | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | i typed my password into the username field when making an account :( | 20:48 |
| lbt | where | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | on bugs.merproject.org | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | email is a.j.buxton@gmail.com | 20:49 |
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| Crnkoj | grade do oyu know if there are bootargs to force output to hdmi with tegra2 ? | 20:50 |
| Crnkoj | vgrade* | 20:51 |
| ali1234 | lbt: if it's easier, you can just change my username to ali1234, or i can just start over. i didn't touch any bugs | 20:51 |
| lbt | what account did you make | 20:53 |
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| alinux__99 | hi I did install nemo and I have uboot installed as well, but I had a dual boot android maemo before, now after doing the sdcard install I cant see nemo in the boot options | 20:55 |
| ali1234 | alinux__99: which boot menu? | 20:55 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, when I boot there is some sort of a boot menu with 1 for maemo and 2 for Android, | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | alinux__99: afaik nitdroid is not compatible with u-boot and uses multiboot instead, which will wipe out your u-boot given the chance | 20:56 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, makes sense..so I should uninstall multiboot and reinstall u-boot ? | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | well i don't know | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | you know i originally made the u-boot because i didn't like multiboot | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | cos it reflashes the kernel every time you switch OS | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | and u-boot goes in the kernel slot | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | so using them both will probably lead to bad things happening | 20:58 |
| Crnkoj | guys does anyone know if one can set bootargs for tegra2 devices to output to hdmi ? | 20:58 |
| ali1234 | unfortunately i didn't realise that nitdroid can only work with multiboot for some technical reasons | 20:58 |
| ali1234 | so basically... unless you really know what you're doing with both the systems, you'll have to pick one or the other | 20:59 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, I am not in need of nitdroid anymore right now, I want to make mer work .. | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | well in general you should probably remove multiboot, however i have no idea how you would do that | 20:59 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, I did remove the android sd card inserted the Nemo sdcard and did remove multiboot using apt-get on maemo | 20:59 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, will try to reinstall uboot now | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | if you don't see the black screen with linux penguin, u-boot isn't installed | 21:00 |
| ali1234 | although the backlight may be off when that is displayed | 21:01 |
| Netweaver_ | ali1234: Ammyt, one of the nitdroid dev's is working on a uboot compatible version, as stskeeps said that the binary blobs could be permanently copied into the Nitdroid roof fs. As opposed to now being copied at boot time from the Maemo partition. | 21:01 |
| ali1234 | you should still be able to see it under a bright light though | 21:01 |
| ali1234 | Netweaver: yes they;ve been promising to fix that for ages :) | 21:01 |
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| ali1234 | alinux__99: u-boot is lower level than multiboot, it runs before any kernel, multiboot is like a small distro on it's own | 21:02 |
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| alinux__99 | ali1234, it said beginning flash update...nand..Image flashed successfully...will reboot | 21:02 |
| ali1234 | well, initscripts running under a kernel | 21:02 |
| Netweaver_ | I know Ammyt was also charmed by the latest Pali uboot, specifically the menu and the user friendliness of adding extra kernels/OS. So maybe now ... | 21:03 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, Penguin in upeer left corner | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | alinux__99: you should be good then, just insert nemo sd card and remember to put the back on :) | 21:03 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, how to reboot into Maemo if needed ? | 21:04 |
| ali1234 | alinux__99: remove sd card | 21:04 |
| ali1234 | reboot | 21:04 |
| ali1234 | that's it :) | 21:04 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, soudns good thanks | 21:04 |
| ali1234 | i don't see how it can be any more user friendly than that :) | 21:04 |
| ali1234 | but what you have to watch out for is if you reboot to maemo and multiboot comes up | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | cos that might erase u-boot again | 21:05 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, I did remove multiboot..thanks | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | but idk, i never tested that | 21:05 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, it is booting into maemo although it shows uboot | 21:06 |
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| ali1234 | alinux__99: yes, it will always show that u-boot screen now | 21:06 |
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| ali1234 | or do you mean when you have the sd card plugged in? | 21:07 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, OK I have the sd card plugged in and I did stop auto boot, should I run boot mmcboot ? | 21:08 |
| ali1234 | yes | 21:08 |
| ali1234 | you don't need to stop it | 21:08 |
| ali1234 | well, you shouldn't | 21:08 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, it goes to maemo though :( | 21:09 |
| ali1234 | what does run mmcboot say? | 21:09 |
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| alinux__99 | ali1234, wrong image format for bootm, cant get kernel image | 21:10 |
| ali1234 | it might be that old version of u-boot that doesn't check all partitions | 21:11 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, it is pr13 | 21:11 |
| ali1234 | i'm not familiar with that version | 21:11 |
| ali1234 | which mmc partitions is it checking? and which partition is the kernel image and boot script on? | 21:11 |
| ali1234 | and did you create the sd card properly? | 21:12 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, in the how to it sais In the Hildon Application Manager, install the U-Boot package, found in "System" category. (The package is 'uboot-pr13' at the time of writing) | 21:12 |
| ali1234 | can you link me to the guide you followed please? | 21:12 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, I did create the sd card using dd ..so not much I can do wrong :) | 21:12 |
| ali1234 | yep | 21:12 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing | 21:13 |
| ali1234 | did you uncompress it? | 21:13 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, bunzip2 xyz.raw.bz2 | 21:13 |
| alinux__99 | 3.8GB | 21:13 |
| ali1234 | hmm | 21:13 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, dd bs=4096 if=./nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-0.20120120.1.NEMO.2012-02-09.1-mmcblk0p.raw of=/dev/sdb1 | 21:13 |
| ali1234 | ok | 21:14 |
| ali1234 | that's wrong | 21:14 |
| ali1234 | /dev/sdb not /dev/sdb1 | 21:14 |
| ali1234 | it's a full disk image, not a partition | 21:14 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, excuse my stupidity ..I explicitely read that and did the mistake ... | 21:14 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, thanks and sorry for wasting your time | 21:14 |
| alinux__99 | will redo the dd | 21:14 |
| ali1234 | np | 21:15 |
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| alinux__99 | hi when I try to boot nemo of a ssd card on my N900 I get a lot of I/O errors and boot stops with a sync error and kernel panic, I did check the ssd card for problems but it seems fine | 22:21 |
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| Khaled | Stskeeps: I want to contribute on a ux mer based project, what do u recommend for me other than plasma active? | 22:31 |
| ali1234 | cordia? | 22:32 |
| Khaled | I believe it is tablet only and I want both | 22:33 |
| ali1234 | both? | 22:33 |
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| Khaled | yeah or phone ux only | 22:34 |
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| ali1234 | i don't understand the difference | 22:34 |
| ali1234 | cordia is the old n900 UX, basically | 22:34 |
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| ali1234 | maemo 5 | 22:34 |
| alinux__99 | sorry got DC, I am getting a lot of I/O errors when booting Nemo on my N900...I did use a tool to check SD card it seems fine...any ideas ? | 22:34 |
| Khaled | i thought cordia was tablet only | 22:34 |
| ali1234 | dunno if they have a dialer component but you could always port one :) | 22:34 |
| ali1234 | alinux__99: that's a known issue, we are working on it | 22:35 |
| ali1234 | alinux__99: although i never heard of anyone having that problem with the u-boot pr13 | 22:35 |
| ali1234 | alinux__99: -110 right? | 22:36 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, thanks for the update, so what can I do to boot into Nemo ? Try an earlier release ? | 22:36 |
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| ali1234 | alinux__99: it works for me with the u-boot from the repos | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | alinux__99: only the pali u-boot gives the errors | 22:37 |
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| alinux__99 | ali1234, I definetly used the repos uboot | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | when you say "a lot" | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | do you mean like it's continuouslyscrolling hundreds oferrors per second? | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | or just like 10 | 22:38 |
| alinux__99 | ali1234, yeah until it stops with a kernel panic message ..it is hundreds .. | 22:38 |
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| ali1234 | yeah that's the bug. weird that you see it with that u-boot version though... i don't understand this | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | well, i don't have much to suggest for now | 22:39 |
| ali1234 | you can try reflashing u-boot manually with my latest development build | 22:39 |
| ali1234 | it's complicated though | 22:39 |
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| Netweaver_ | ali1234: even in the emo wiki there is a disclaimer about slow/now working cards due to IO errors ... So I have a dark brown feeling some people have seen this issue before already but it was less common | 22:58 |
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| Netweaver_ | going to sleep now, my wife was v angry last night when I was getting into bed at 3:15 am ... :) So I'll try to be good/better now ... good night to all ! | 23:21 |
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| lbt | systemd is a pita | 23:54 |
| lbt | Job failed. See system logs and 'systemctl status' for details. | 23:54 |
| phaeron | and everything is a mish mash in dmesg | 23:56 |
| lbt | yep ... apache errors in dmesg ... nice | 23:56 |
| phaeron | the journal should help I guess | 23:56 |
| phaeron | but I think it can be configured to do syslog | 23:57 |
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| lbt | another day, another cert | 23:58 |
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