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| lbt | phaeron: we don't want glut in Mer | 00:07 |
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| lbt | doesn't make sense :) | 00:08 |
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| phaeron | ok | 00:09 |
| phaeron | egl_info and eglgears_x11 work for me | 00:09 |
| phaeron | egltri segfaults | 00:09 |
| phaeron | new mutter based on egl/glesv2 cogl works | 00:10 |
| lbt | OK - that's good to know | 00:10 |
| lbt | glestest? | 00:10 |
| phaeron | (fixed a typo in the gfx-tests pkg name in your guide ) | 00:10 |
| lbt | ta | 00:10 |
| phaeron | glestest works | 00:11 |
| lbt | OK - not on the joggler | 00:11 |
| phaeron | we want to document the actual EGL version and extensions requirements , right ? | 00:11 |
| lbt | yes | 00:12 |
| phaeron | so if you run eglinfo and it doesn't say xyz then you're in trouble | 00:12 |
| phaeron | etc .. | 00:12 |
| lbt | yes | 00:12 |
| phaeron | what does it say for you | 00:12 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Graphics_adaptation | 00:13 |
| phaeron | http://pastie.org/3265989 | 00:13 |
| lbt | sec | 00:13 |
| lbt | eglinfo: eglInitialize failed | 00:13 |
| phaeron | oh .. :( | 00:13 |
| lbt | err | 00:14 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3266629 | 00:14 |
| lbt | set DISPLAY | 00:14 |
| phaeron | I created an xterm session for testing | 00:14 |
| lbt | OpenGL_ES OpenVG no GLES2 | 00:15 |
| lbt | anyhow... sry ... bed now | 00:15 |
| lbt | be around in the am :) | 00:15 |
| lbt | o/ | 00:15 |
| phaeron | ok | 00:15 |
| phaeron | ciao | 00:15 |
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| stooj | Hahah - thanks brooklyn :) | 00:40 |
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| walle | hi, after some reading i knew that Mer uses sysemd to get control from linux kernel. and what exactly process that i could assign to init | 01:39 |
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| stooj | This may be a daft question: Can I dd a new image onto an mmc using the n900 as a card reader (in mass storage mode)? I don't have a separate card reader. | 05:20 |
| beford | yes but be careful not to overwrite the EMMC | 05:25 |
| beford | instead of your microsd | 05:25 |
| beford | if you overwrite the eMMC it will require a reflash I believe, and everything will be lost | 05:25 |
| stooj | Grand, thanks beford. | 05:26 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 08:01 |
| timoph | morn | 08:09 |
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| walle | morning, hehe, we're 4:14pm now | 08:14 |
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| walle | Stskeeps: how to assign to the kernel parameter init to start mer? my old linux use /linuxrc to mount the fs | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | walle: init= in kernel command line | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | should be /sbin/init | 08:17 |
| walle | not /lib/systemd? | 08:17 |
| walle | let me try now | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | no, just boot /sbin/init like a normal linux system | 08:20 |
| lbt | morning all | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | morn lb | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | t | 08:24 |
| lbt | uugghh ... my cold hasn't gone :( | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. i suspect fosdem will be a nice disease spreading fest | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | a lot of flu going around in .fi too | 08:25 |
| lbt | I was thinking that this morning | 08:25 |
| lbt | and my joggler is being a pain too | 08:27 |
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| lbt | keep getting usb disconnects | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | the usb port is a bit wonky yeh | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | add a powered usb hub? | 08:28 |
| lbt | hadn't thought to do that... | 08:28 |
| lbt | it seems more SW related | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | nah | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | think that it runs out of power, as the port doesn't really supply much | 08:29 |
| lbt | I have a velleman usb i/o board | 08:29 |
| lbt | and when I read from the usb stick, it does a reset | 08:29 |
| lbt | if I leave it quiet .. it's fine | 08:29 |
| lbt | but yeah, I guess those could relate too - accessing stick draws a little power | 08:30 |
| lbt | well worth investigating | 08:30 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders if he'll get tomatoes thrown at him when claiming that if we were to understand how the world looks around us by how linux distributions are and their attitudes, we'd assume they were using PDP-7's | 08:35 | |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:36 |
| lbt | people are beginning to realise that | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Pdp7-oslo-2005.jpeg makes a nice provocative image then | 08:37 |
| lbt | can you photoshop a discreet "Debian Inside" logo onto it... | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | i don't want to die, you know | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:38 |
| timoph | :) | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | http://liliputing.com/2012/01/amazon-and-bn-tablets-could-account-for-40-percent-of-android-tablet-sales.html is interesting, btw | 08:39 |
| lbt | semi-single-purpose | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | also interesting from core pov | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | for example, nook color has honestly no business being based on android, entire ui is replaced | 08:42 |
| Sage | morning | 08:42 |
| lbt | yes, we've noted this before | 08:42 |
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| lbt | it's why I'd like to take the Joggler running QtMediaHub and nothing else | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | morn sage | 08:43 |
| lbt | hey Sage | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: remember power converters.. | 08:43 |
| lbt | morning timoph too | 08:43 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I have a MeeGo one :) | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | ah, true | 08:44 |
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| * lbt wonders how many ways he can get the tiniest package in Mer wrong... | 08:46 | |
| Stskeeps | you learnt it after a bit | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, we need automated package checks in review process | 08:47 |
| lbt | I'm clearly a true user.... | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2012/01/reveal.html | 08:48 |
| lbt | excellent | 08:49 |
| timoph | nice | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: does that actually run mer or how was it? | 08:50 |
| * lbt was wondering that... | 08:51 | |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, yes runs Mer | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | and the big question, does the gles work? :P | 08:55 |
| vgrade | there is a fair bit of work still to do on adaptation | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:56 |
| timoph | so where does one place an order? | 08:56 |
| vgrade | thats one for aseigo | 08:56 |
| Sage | nice | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | http://openlinux.amlogic.com/wiki/index.php/Arm/OpenGL | 08:57 |
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| * timoph asks | 08:57 | |
| Sage | Stskeeps: why they talk about OpenGL and not ES ? | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: common mistake | 08:58 |
| Sage | ok | 08:59 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: looks to come with (at least) framebuffer enabled gles drivers | 09:02 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: error: ^%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}$: regcomp failed: Invalid content of \{\} | 09:02 |
| Sage | http://qtl.merproject.org/48bc6428-493d-11e1-82ac-00163e6e0038.txt | 09:02 |
| Sage | is that normal? | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes, bug in sb2-obs | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | i've been menaing to fix it but it doesn't harm anything | 09:02 |
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| Sage | ok | 09:03 |
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| Sage | lbt: it is not BMO# but MER# that we use with bugs. | 09:08 |
| Sage | similar to NEMO# in nemo | 09:08 |
| lbt | *sigh* ...... :) | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | did we copy packaging/guidelines yet? | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:09 |
| timoph | :D | 09:09 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: last night | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:10 |
| * Sage wonders if lbt comes with an axe to meet Sage at fosdem ;) | 09:10 | |
| lbt | 'an' axe.... when I have 2 good hands? | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | lbt wanted the full experience of being on the factory floor, well, here it is :P | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | we learnt by anas and others slamming our packaging :) | 09:11 |
| lbt | Actually it's exactly what I wanted | 09:11 |
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| lbt | it's been reason intense which helps get a good picture of what people will experience | 09:12 |
| Sage | lbt: thi time you can't blame me you changed the changelog :D | 09:12 |
| lbt | and it also helps identify the areas where it's frustrating | 09:12 |
| lbt | Sage: no, indeed... new bug :) | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: on a sidenote, i might agree with you that we might actually seperate qt from core | 09:12 |
| lbt | and you know, that doesn't feel as 'annoying' as my last failed submit | 09:13 |
| lbt | although last night I redid the packaging and it worked under osc (all files added with osc ar) but forgot to add using git | 09:14 |
| lbt | makes me wonder if we should have a script to do the git push which can compare the git filelist to osc's | 09:14 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: \o/ | 09:14 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2012/01/reveal.html | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: though with mali with framebuffer drivers | 09:16 |
| Sage | I hope that is shown in fosdem somewhere would be nice to see that device | 09:16 |
| _av500_ | somebody ported linux onto an android tablet :) | 09:20 |
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| lbt | http://bayoteers.org/wordpress/extensions/enhancedseealso/ | 09:24 |
| lbt | and some others | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:25 |
| lbt | oh Sage can you confirm the gitweb bug for URLs is OK for now? | 09:27 |
| lbt | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36 | 09:28 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: very cool :D | 09:31 |
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| smoku | lbt: any chance of getting it working: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=libhildon&project=home%3Asmoku%3ACordia%3AHD&repository=Fedora_16 ? | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: looks like you're missing a Preinstall: | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | find out what package libmount is in | 09:32 |
| lbt | F16... | 09:33 |
| * lbt prods phaeron too | 09:34 | |
| smoku | Stskeeps: oh. got it :) | 09:35 |
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| Sage | lbt: I would probably prefer YOUR_USERNAME or <YOURUSERNAME> or something instead of your_username so it would pop up more. Also does one need username to get the stuff or is there anonymous clone available as well? | 09:36 |
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| lbt | yeah, I debated an anonymous clone url but I figured we should put that in the wiki link | 09:37 |
| lbt | most of the time we want to use the ssh form | 09:37 |
| Sage | fair enough | 09:38 |
| lbt | I wonder if we can remove username totally? | 09:38 |
| lbt | ie tell people how to config a username for that ssh target | 09:38 |
| lbt | (because it is annoying) | 09:38 |
| Sage | sounds even better | 09:38 |
| lbt | better? | 09:39 |
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| lbt | not really, no | 09:39 |
| lbt | es | 09:40 |
| lbt | actually I'm removing the <> .... cut'n'paste would screw up a shell | 09:41 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: it helped. thanks. | 09:42 |
| Sage | lbt: we need anyway to guide user how to set his on name and e-mail to git config so why not username as well? | 09:45 |
| lbt | agree | 09:45 |
| Sage | so removal sounds good IMO | 09:45 |
| lbt | yes, but don't you think we should defer that until it's documented and 'normal' ? | 09:49 |
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| * lbt makes coffee ready for the brainstorm | 09:51 | |
| Sage | lbt: well we don't have any URL there atm. so we could defer the whole bug until we are ready for approach without username? | 09:52 |
| lbt | we don't? | 09:52 |
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| lbt | I see "more details" linking to http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail | 09:53 |
| Sage | ah, you added that to all git projects ok. well that is good for now then :) | 09:53 |
| lbt | yes, and that shell script is so easy to rerun | 09:54 |
| Sage | ok. well sounds good for me then as it is now | 09:55 |
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| * Sage needs to go away for a while . | 09:55 | |
| lbt | np... just closing down some easy-ish ones | 09:55 |
| lbt | bbiam ... then SDK | 09:55 |
| lbt | phaeron is awake now timoph :) | 09:55 |
| * timoph is | 09:58 | |
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| timoph | connected using n9 as a hotspot so networking might be a bit unstable for me | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: how did you add it to all git projects? | 09:58 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36#c3 | 10:03 |
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| lbt | SDK brainstorm in #mer-meeting now | 10:07 |
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| phaeron | lbt: what dependencies ? | 11:20 |
| lbt | eg spectacle depends on cheetah | 11:20 |
| lbt | so we need to package cheetah | 11:21 |
| lbt | we also need to track *why* we package cheetah | 11:21 |
| lbt | and any other users... | 11:21 |
| lbt | eg IMG | 11:22 |
| phaeron | tracking is like writing it in a wiki page | 11:23 |
| phaeron | although I don't see that much need to do it. but it is ok I guess | 11:23 |
| lbt | or the obs description on cobs, or the obs desc on mer ci obs, or the mer-tools/ git description, or the github description ... | 11:24 |
| lbt | well, it's not for you | 11:24 |
| phaeron | :) | 11:24 |
| lbt | it's for whoever has to look after it after you | 11:24 |
| phaeron | look at the spec file and you see it depends on foo | 11:25 |
| phaeron | so we have foo | 11:25 |
| lbt | and you look at cheetah and see the DependedOnBy: field ? | 11:25 |
| lbt | or do you just go update cheetah, then QA test spectacle and release it? | 11:26 |
| lbt | then IMG fails | 11:26 |
| lbt | because it too uses cheetah | 11:26 |
| lbt | and yes, that's not going to matter if IMG isn't in the SDK | 11:26 |
| phaeron | well the unit tests will fail when you do a trial build ;) | 11:26 |
| phaeron | but nm , we could go on for ever | 11:27 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Are you online now? | 12:17 |
| lbt | hey sonach | 12:17 |
| sonach | hello lbt, | 12:17 |
| lbt | I think Stskeeps has gone out | 12:17 |
| sonach | lbt: I am testing qtmediahub on my board, | 12:17 |
| lbt | good | 12:18 |
| sonach | lbt: Now the uxlaunch still doesn't work, | 12:18 |
| sonach | lbt: Do you have time to do me a help? | 12:18 |
| lbt | sure... I saw some chat on this so you may need to bring me up to speed | 12:19 |
| sonach | lbt: hmm, maybe this is a new problem:) | 12:19 |
| lbt | sure | 12:19 |
| sonach | http://pastie.org/3269518 | 12:20 |
| lbt | so the usual... logs and a bit of configuration :) | 12:20 |
| lbt | hehe ... :) | 12:20 |
| sonach | lbt: Now the /dev/fb0 is ready | 12:20 |
| sonach | lbt: under the same configuration, qmlviewer will work, | 12:21 |
| lbt | Failed: Could not make directory `/home/mer/.gconf' : No space left on device | 12:21 |
| lbt | looks bad | 12:21 |
| sonach | lbt: ah.... | 12:22 |
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| phaeron | if you have bluez installed and you don't have bluetooth on that board (or don't need it for now) you can remove it | 12:24 |
| sonach | lbt: Yesterday I encountered the problem when doing "depmod -a" and today I copy modules.dep to my rootfs and re-make the rootfs. so hifb.ko can be loaded manually. | 12:24 |
| sonach | lbt: It seems that I have to strip more;) | 12:25 |
| lbt | phaeron's idea is good | 12:25 |
| sonach | phaeron: I will try it , | 12:25 |
| lbt | you may be able to rpm -e bluez | 12:25 |
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| sonach | lbt: how to stop uxlaunch? It seems that systemdctl stop doesn't work, | 12:27 |
| phaeron | systemctl stop uxlaunch.service | 12:27 |
| sonach | phaeron: Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. | 12:27 |
| lbt | if it ran out of disk then it could be in a bad way | 12:28 |
| sonach | phaeron: how to solve this? | 12:28 |
| phaeron | yeah | 12:28 |
| lbt | systemdclt | 12:28 |
| lbt | should report status | 12:28 |
| phaeron | systemctl | 12:28 |
| phaeron | no d there | 12:28 |
| lbt | :/ | 12:28 |
| sonach | yes, just systemctl, | 12:28 |
| phaeron | sonach: you need to clean something first | 12:28 |
| phaeron | then start dbus | 12:28 |
| phaeron | then stop uxlaunch.service | 12:29 |
| sonach | phaeron: clean what? doing "rmp -e xxx"? | 12:29 |
| phaeron | rpm -e bluez | 12:29 |
| phaeron | does it work ? | 12:29 |
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| sonach | http://pastie.org/3269559 | 12:31 |
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| lbt | catch 22 | 12:32 |
| sonach | I don't know the reason: (1) no space left (2) bluez is not installed, | 12:32 |
| lbt | you may need to remove bluez from ks and rebuild the rootfs | 12:32 |
| phaeron | mm | 12:32 |
| phaeron | rm -rf /usr/include | 12:32 |
| lbt | did you strip the docs too | 12:32 |
| phaeron | yeah I think Stskeeps told him to | 12:33 |
| sonach | phaeron: nothing under /usr/include | 12:33 |
| phaeron | :/ | 12:33 |
| lbt | what's in /usr/share | 12:33 |
| sonach | lbt: yes, already exclude docs and locale and font | 12:33 |
| phaeron | also ls /boot | 12:33 |
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| sonach | lbt: an empty X11 directory | 12:33 |
| lbt | :( | 12:33 |
| sonach | boot dir is empty,too | 12:34 |
| phaeron | ls /lib/modules/*/kernel ? | 12:35 |
| phaeron | maybe we can get rid of some modules | 12:35 |
| sonach | hmm... this is a good idea | 12:36 |
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| sonach | the size of /lib/modules is 9.4M | 12:37 |
| phaeron | you don't need most of them I'd guess | 12:37 |
| phaeron | but careful what you rm or it might not boot or something | 12:37 |
| sonach | phaeron: this is the package list: http://pastie.org/3261590 | 12:39 |
| phaeron | for modules you need to disable them in kernel config | 12:39 |
| phaeron | but you can try to rm some manually right now | 12:40 |
| lbt | wayland? | 12:40 |
| lbt | flac | 12:40 |
| phaeron | deltarpm can go | 12:40 |
| sonach | phaeron: I just copy vendors modules to mer's lib/modules, and do some modifications manually:) | 12:40 |
| sonach | lbt: wayland is needed by mesa, | 12:41 |
| phaeron | sonach: yeah but are there other modules there you can remove ? | 12:41 |
| sonach | phaeron: yes, I will try to remove some ko files soon, | 12:42 |
| sonach | flac and deltarpm can excluded? | 12:42 |
| phaeron | flac might be need by qtmediahub | 12:42 |
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| phaeron | deltarpm is not really used | 12:42 |
| phaeron | what is orc | 12:42 |
| sonach | phaeron: I don't know what is orc... | 12:43 |
| lbt | not sure ... wonder what depends on it :P | 12:43 |
| lbt | "Orc is a library and set of tools for compiling and executing very simple programs that operate on arrays of data" | 12:44 |
| phaeron | gstreamer , I just checked | 12:44 |
| lbt | most things are pulled in through depends anyway | 12:44 |
| phaeron | except if they are in the @groups | 12:44 |
| lbt | ls -Slr /usr/bin | 12:45 |
| lbt | I don't have a minimal install here | 12:46 |
| lbt | remove qmlviewer ? | 12:46 |
| lbt | unless you did already | 12:46 |
| sonach | lbt: output for "ls -Slr /usr/bin" is http://pastie.org/3269617 | 12:47 |
| phaeron | rpm -e pkgconfig | 12:47 |
| sonach | lbt: yes, qmlvierwer was already removed, | 12:47 |
| lbt | ok, you can rm openssl, localedef flac info curl | 12:47 |
| phaeron | info can't be removed | 12:48 |
| phaeron | curl would break zypper | 12:48 |
| lbt | zypper not installed | 12:48 |
| sonach | yes, zypper is not needed atm | 12:48 |
| phaeron | ok :) | 12:48 |
| phaeron | rpm -e usbutils | 12:48 |
| sonach | I just want to run qtmediahub for TV/STB UX:) | 12:48 |
| lbt | and these need to be fixed but later | 12:48 |
| lbt | yeah, sonach, you just want it to run - not clean up the rootfs | 12:49 |
| lbt | ? | 12:49 |
| sonach | lbt: what do you mea? | 12:49 |
| sonach | mean | 12:49 |
| sonach | lbt: run "rpm -e xxx"? | 12:49 |
| lbt | mmm we're hacking a demo, not making a product | 12:49 |
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| lbt | so removing some code from /usr/bin is just a way to make some space | 12:50 |
| lbt | then we reboot and see QtMHub launch | 12:50 |
| lbt | later we need to figuree out how to make the image smaller | 12:50 |
| sonach | lbt: OK, I will just remove something from /usb/bin. "rpm -e xxx" can not be executed... | 12:52 |
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| sonach | lbt: so what can be deleted from /usb/bin then? pkg-config,openssl,localedef flac info curl? | 12:53 |
| lbt | that should be plenty to reboot | 12:53 |
| sonach | OK:) | 12:54 |
| pdanek | https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Demo :) | 12:54 |
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| Stskeeps | much of the bloat is caused by a bad dependency in qt mobility, will be fixed in next mer release | 12:56 |
| sonach | the same errors occurs: http://pastie.org/3269654. Is SPACE the exect reason?? | 12:58 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Nice to see you:) | 12:58 |
| sonach | I think there are several MBs left now... | 12:58 |
| lbt | what does df -h show | 12:59 |
| phaeron | still complaining about space .. | 12:59 |
| lbt | it is | 12:59 |
| phaeron | maybe the blocks reserved for root | 12:59 |
| phaeron | by mkfs.ext2 | 13:00 |
| phaeron | err | 13:00 |
| sonach | df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory | 13:00 |
| lbt | not ext2 | 13:00 |
| phaeron | what filesystem is this | 13:00 |
| sonach | jffs2 | 13:00 |
| phaeron | does it reserve blocks for root ? | 13:00 |
| phaeron | because uxlaunch launches X as user | 13:00 |
| lbt | what is mounted | 13:00 |
| sonach | lbt: result of "mount": http://pastie.org/3269681 | 13:01 |
| lbt | what is /etc/mtab ? | 13:02 |
| lbt | (wondering why df isn't working) | 13:02 |
| sonach | lbt: no /etc/mtab exists, | 13:02 |
| lbt | ln -s /proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab | 13:03 |
| lbt | then df -h | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: can i see /home/mer/.xsession-errors | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 13:03 |
| lbt | <13>uxlaunch[1110]: Unable to open "/home/mer/.xsession-errors | 13:03 |
| sonach | ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/mtab': No space left on device | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | so still space isues | 13:04 |
| lbt | sonach: so there aren't any Mb free... | 13:04 |
| lbt | logs on reboot? | 13:04 |
| phaeron | apparently jffs2 doesn't reserve blocks like ext | 13:04 |
| phaeron | maybe he can try to use 1K blocks :D | 13:04 |
| phaeron | but probably insignificant | 13:05 |
| lbt | and oops ... that : <13>uxlaunch[1110]: Unable to open "/home/mer/.xsession-errors was from the old log - still present in new one though | 13:05 |
| lbt | so sonach what's in /var/log/ | 13:05 |
| sonach | phaeron: now it is 0x20000 blocks | 13:05 |
| sonach | 0x20000 per block | 13:05 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: and where else may growing files exist? | 13:06 |
| sonach | lbt: Cannot show the left space is a big problem... So we don't know the left space exactly, | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, long story short jffs2 is picky as it needs to keep storage for flash erase blocks | 13:07 |
| sonach | and cannot stop uxlaunch.service is another problem that make my debug difficult.... | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: try systemctl disable uxlaunch.service | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | instead | 13:08 |
| sonach | lbt: result of "ls /var/log" is :faillog lastlog prelink tallylog | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: can you 'mic-chroot' into the file system before you mkfs.jffs2 it? | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: if so, in there, rpm -e --force qt-mobility | 13:10 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: "systemctl disable uxlaunch.service" seems no effect, | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok | 13:10 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: (1) I write vendor's rootfs to flash; (2) boot the board to vendor's rootfs; (3) chroot to mer-qtmediahub-root by NFS; (4) rpm -e --force qt-mobility. Is that right? | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: that is ok too | 13:13 |
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| Stskeeps | now tell me what output rpm -qa | sort has | 13:14 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Other simpler ways? | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: waiting two days | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:14 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: the rpm commands can not execute: | 13:15 |
| sonach | error: db4 error(28) from dbenv->open: No space left on device | 13:15 |
| sonach | error: cannot open Packages index using db4 - No space left on device (28) | 13:15 |
| sonach | error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm | 13:15 |
| timoph | disk full | 13:15 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: thought you said mount over nfs | 13:15 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ? | 13:15 |
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| Sage | sonach, Stskeeps: rpm -e --force qt-mobility doesn't do anything it uses 0b space | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: chroot to mer qtmediahub root by nfs, then do those commands | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i have a point with this | 13:18 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK, at least we can do some useful tests, maybe it can do good to next release two days later:) | 13:18 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: qt-mobility from https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7l could help in space | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: basically i want to remove more packages and we can only do this through nfs | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes | 13:20 |
| sonach | Stskeeps, Sage: Wait some minutes, I will NFS soon:) | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: when we have rmeoved qt mobility package we can remove many useless packages :) | 13:20 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ah, true. | 13:22 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: we get probably regressions after taht qt-mobility meta removal when some packages do not have all the deps they actually nee. | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes, and we have to fix those :P | 13:26 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: :nod: mainly hoping that we get them fixed and not hide them under other dependencies. | 13:43 |
| Sage | anyway need to go now. I'll be back at IRC tomorrow evening or so probably. | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 13:44 |
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| zhanghui | Stskeeps: Now I am in chroot:) | 14:12 |
| zhanghui | Stskeeps: "rpm -e --force qt-mobility" first? | 14:13 |
| lbt | you can't force -e | 14:13 |
| zhanghui | lbt: you mean "rpm -e qt-mobility" | 14:14 |
| zhanghui | ? | 14:14 |
| lbt | no, it has too many depends | 14:14 |
| zhanghui | what do you suggest then? | 14:15 |
| lbt | (try ans see) | 14:15 |
| lbt | I think what were doing before is the best approach | 14:15 |
| lbt | what's the space usage now? | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | you can't force erase? wtf | 14:16 |
| lbt | :) fun | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | zhanghui: what happens if you rpm -e --force qt-mobility? | 14:18 |
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| Stskeeps | zhanghui: what happens if you rpm -e --force qt-mobility? | 14:20 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I am doing this | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:20 |
| sonach | [root@(none) bin]# rpm -e --force qt-mobility | 14:21 |
| sonach | rpm: only installation and upgrading may be forced | 14:21 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, and rpm -e --nodeps qt-mobility \ | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | witohut the \ | 14:21 |
| sonach | ok, the command finished:) | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | ok, good | 14:22 |
| sonach | no errors reported | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | now pastie me rpm -qa | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | now pastie me rpm -qa | sort , i mean | 14:22 |
| sonach | ok | 14:22 |
| sonach | http://pastie.org/3270011 | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | with sort please | 14:25 |
| sonach | http://pastie.org/3270017 | 14:26 |
| phaeron | finally progress :) | 14:26 |
| sonach | phaeron: :) | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok, rpm -e droid-serif-fonts liberation-sans-fonts libqtdesigner4 libqtfeedback1 libqtgallery1 | 14:30 |
| sonach | libQtDesigner.so.4 is needed by (installed) libqtdeclarative4-4.8.0-1.2.Mer.armv7l | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | and rpm -e libqtsensors1 libqtserviceframework1 libqtversit1 | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | ok, remove libqtdeisnger4 from the list then | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -e sensorfw sensorfw-configs | 14:33 |
| sonach | ok, | 14:33 |
| phaeron | designer needed by declarative sounds weird | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -e libqtmessaging1 libqmfclient1 | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -e libqtlocation1 | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | those commands work? | 14:36 |
| sonach | a miniute:) | 14:38 |
| sonach | only this failed: libQtServiceFramework.so.1 is needed by (installed) libqtcontacts1-1.2.0-1.15.Mer.armv7l | 14:40 |
| sonach | others OK, | 14:40 |
| phaeron | you should have some space to try uxlaunch I guess | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok, add libqtcontacts1 to the one that failed | 14:41 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK, done, libqtserviceframework1 is removed, | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | ok, good | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | can you try to make a jffs now and tell me how big the file is? | 14:43 |
| sonach | ok, | 14:44 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I think i should exit the chroot? | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:44 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Now it is 109969408. | 14:46 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: previous is 109838336 | 14:47 |
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| sonach | become bigger... | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | did you remove locales in this one? | 14:47 |
| sonach | yes. I just copy previous rootfs to nfs directory | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | hmmm | 14:48 |
| sonach | maybe it is related to jffs2? | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | maybe, ok, i have to leave my train now | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | so no internet there | 14:48 |
| sonach | it is bad:) | 14:49 |
| sonach | when will you be back? | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | check /tmp for any core files | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | maybe 20 minutes or so | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | but not for long | 14:49 |
| sonach | nothing under /tmp | 14:49 |
| sonach | OK, by train please, I will wait you back:) | 14:50 |
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| phaeron | sonach: maybe some logs in /var/log or in /home/mer/.uxlaunch or /home/mer/.X | 15:05 |
| phaeron | /home/mer/.Xorg* | 15:05 |
| sonach | phaeron: no useful logs in /var/log | 15:11 |
| sonach | and no useful logs under /home/mer... | 15:11 |
| sonach | phaeron: for example, result of "ls /var/log" is : faillog lastlog prelink tallylog | 15:12 |
| sonach | phaeron: the strange thing is, after doing a lot of "rpm -e", the rootfs becomes bigger... | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, you use same kernel for the vendor rootfs as with mer, when you chroot? | 15:15 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes. I just rewrite rootfs. | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, go in, mount mer rootfs over NFS with vendor rootfs, and do this: | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | chroot into the mer rootfs | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | mount -t devtmpfs devtmpfs /dev | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | mount -t proc proc /proc | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | mount -t sysfs sysfs /sys | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | Xorg -noreset & | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | export DISPLAY=:0 | 15:18 |
| sonach | ok, wait a minute, | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | qtmediahub -opengl-usage false | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | make sure /dev/fb0 exists in /dev before starting Xorg :) | 15:19 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Xorg -noreset success, | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, remembered the & too? | 15:24 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: and it seems that qtmediahub also success: http://pastie.org/3270263 | 15:24 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes, I have run xbmc under meego before, so I have some experience for running Xorg, etc. :) | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, looks like success | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: let me guess, you don't have a tv screen? ;) | 15:26 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I have a TV screen, my family's TV. I can move it to my workroom:) | 15:26 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: wait a minute. I will confirm it on TV screen;) | 15:27 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: i have to leave now, but just tell the result on this IRC channel and i will read it later | 15:41 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK. there is something wrong with trivial things... | 15:46 |
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| Stskeeps | define 'wrong' | 15:55 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: i think i just saw you in kamppi, apologies for ot waving back, first realized afterwards -- i'm a bit daft today | 16:04 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: the ultimate output is: http://pastie.org/3270508 | 16:15 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I cannot see result of qtmediahub on TV screen. But I am sure the Xorg is working(the TV screen has some backgroud picture, different from the "no signal" state) | 16:16 |
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| ntadej | Hello, what does this error mean? "Error: Failed to run mic inside bootstrap environment. Return code: -4" | 16:41 |
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| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting | 18:04 |
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| vgrade | lbt, are there any logs from pdk meeting today? | 18:30 |
| lbt | yes | 18:30 |
| lbt | http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-01-28-10.04.log.html | 18:31 |
| lbt | not much there tbh | 18:31 |
| vgrade | thanks | 18:31 |
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| lbt | that project ^^ has the list of pkgs | 18:32 |
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| timoph | not much but getting some direction at least | 18:32 |
| timoph | evening btw | 18:32 |
| lbt | evening | 18:32 |
| lbt | I want to make sure we have the support environment around it | 18:34 |
| lbt | a decent git tree for each tool to start with :) | 18:35 |
| timoph | yeah | 18:36 |
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| cristim | is there any Mer repo out there containing an XBMC UX? | 18:40 |
| lbt | not yet afaik | 18:40 |
| cristim | I have seen Sage's video and I would like to try it out on one of my boards | 18:41 |
| cristim | there is https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=CE%3AUX%3AXBMC but looks like empty | 18:41 |
| lbt | I think Sage's is the closest we have | 18:42 |
| cristim | also, what do you guys think about an x86_64 port? | 18:42 |
| lbt | why? | 18:43 |
| cristim | I have this AMD Fusion board, and I would like to run Mer+XBMC on it | 18:43 |
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| lbt | and what would 64bit gain you over i586? | 18:44 |
| cristim | acces to all the RAM? | 18:44 |
| cristim | without PAE | 18:44 |
| cristim | :) | 18:44 |
| lbt | for XBMC? | 18:44 |
| cristim | well, not only | 18:44 |
| cristim | but mostly yes | 18:45 |
| lbt | so you see the point is that the cost of building, supporting (and QA'ing) another build vs the benefit you get needs balancin | 18:45 |
| lbt | g | 18:45 |
| cristim | sure | 18:45 |
| cristim | it was just a thought | 18:45 |
| lbt | *nod* | 18:45 |
| lbt | it's a reasonable request - but there should be more of a reason than "because we can" :) | 18:46 |
| lbt | can I suggest you try for an i586 XBMC build first and see how that goes | 18:47 |
| cristim | will try | 18:47 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: yeah you looked distracted, so I didn't want to startle you :D | 19:12 |
| ntadej | Hello averybody! Today I decided to install Plasma Active build of Mer to my N950 and while extracting the image I get a lot of Operation not permitted errors regarding permissions changes and creating symbolic links. Is this expected? | 19:15 |
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| wmarone_ | ntadej: did you extract it as root? | 19:17 |
| ntadej | I used sudo as instructed on the wiki, I'll try as root | 19:18 |
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| ntadej | found out the problem: I had some problems formatting to ext4, fixed now | 19:35 |
| ntadej | I have another problem: when trying to create newer image myself I always get "Error: Failed to run mic inside bootstrap envirnonment. Return core: -4" | 19:38 |
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| Stskeeps | you got assaulted by a snowman on the way back? | 21:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:40 |
| w00t | nah, but god, i learned cider is vicious to my bladder | 21:41 |
| * w00t practically sprinted half the way home | 21:41 | |
| Stskeeps | uh-huh :P | 21:41 |
| w00t | i also got eyed by the cops on the way home which made me laugh | 21:42 |
| w00t | :D | 21:42 |
| w00t | as in they slowed down | 21:42 |
| w00t | like i'm gonna cause trouble... ;) | 21:42 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 21:46 |
| w00t | http://ipgoat.com/ made my evening (on a random note) | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | haha | 21:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:50 |
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