Wednesday, 2012-01-25

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mdfe_ good morning08:49
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Stskeepsmorn lbt09:44
lbtso ... emgd wasn't as done as I thought09:45
lbtQEglContext::chooseConfig(): Could not find a suitable EGL configuration09:45
lbthey smoku09:45
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lbt  Xorg log09:46
lbt291 [   256.997] (II) EMGD(0): [DRI2] Setup complete09:47
lbt[   257.102] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/emgd_dri.so09:48
lbt[   257.102] (II) GLX: Initialized DRI2 GL provider for screen 009:48
Stskeepsdo you have libGLESv2/libEGL?09:48
Stskeepsand not the mesa ones09:48
lbtlessee.. I'm using the drm module which I think is common09:49
lbtthe libGL from MeeGo1.2, not Wayland09:49
StskeepslibGLESv2/libEGL, not libGL :P09:49
lbtthe dri/Xorg module from meego_wayland09:49
lbtlooking - I use everything provided so I thought so09:50
Stskeepsjust be sure and is there09:50
Stskeepsand the symlinks for it, too?09:51
Stskeepsmer apps is built against and
lbtI thought so too... but when I made symlinks in the -lib package rpmlint complained and said they should be in -devel09:52
lbtso I explicitly did that09:52
Stskeepsrpmlint whines a lot09:52
lbtwell - as it happens - that's how ubuntu splits them out too09:53
lbtso I thought that was "correct"09:53
Stskeepslong story short powervr drivers are a nightmare to get to make correct soversion09:53
lbtOK - so for my knowledge, the symlinks *should* be in -devel but these drivers need a hack ?09:54
Stskeepslong story short, mesa builds apps so they link against and, referring directly to those in apps09:55 -> .so.2 will be in mesa devel package09:56
Stskeepsa EGL/GLESv2 implementation needs to provide and
lbtthanks - I'll make a note in the packaging09:57
lbtah yes, I see it's clearly explained in the comments in those spec files.... thankyou anonymous author09:57
* lbt makes a note - any exceptions to packaging policy *MUST* be justified in comments alongside09:58
lbtStskeeps: it's not a packaging issue - ldconfig does the .so.2 symlink10:06
lbtso, yes I have the required symlinks an GLESv2 and EGL libraries10:07
Stskeepsand EGL?10:08
lbtand the output from merux is
lbtwhen you say EGL you seem to distinguish it from libEGL10:09
Stskeepsdidn't see EGL in pastie10:09
Stskeepsare you running merux as user?10:10
lbtyes, replaced qmlviewer in session10:10
lbt-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9168 Jan 25 00:10 and ->
lbtnote that these versions do actually link to merux... previously I was getting wl_* symbols unknown10:11
lbtdo we have glinfo ?10:12
lbtglxinfo even10:13
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Stskeepssearch the bugzilla10:14
lbthelps to know the name10:16
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lbtStskeeps: FYI I also think there's some memory leak (though of course it could easily be in the emgd side) - when X restarts in a cycle like this it eventually OOMs - you may want to try that on a device that has a non-emgd driver10:39
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* Stskeeps glares at rebuilds10:46
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SageStskeeps: pkgconfig fixes in review10:57
Sageupdated the packages at the same time and this time I also tested installing and running for example libusb ;)10:58
Stskeepsit'll probably take some time for review as we're re-bootstrapping armv6l and armv7hl10:58
vadmesteHello everybody. Does Mer project have an emulator for testing ?11:00
phaeronSage: since you mention pkgconfig. I have an issue where pkgconfig(gtk+-3.0) brings in gtk3-devel . do you have any idea how to fix this ?11:01
Stskeepshello vadmeste - you can usually use QEMU and use the i586 port11:01
Sagephaeron: ummm... pkgconfig(gtk+-3.0) should bring gtk3-devel, shouldn't it?11:01
SageI would think so at least11:02
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Stskeepsphaeron: it should bring in gtk3-devel11:02
phaeronfor buildrequires it should, but I am getting this in the autoreq11:02
phaeronso when I install the package it pulls in -devel and friends11:03
Stskeepssounds like a .pc in your package referring to it11:03
phaeronStskeeps: that's the hint , thanks !11:03
Stskeepsvadmeste: what would you like to try to do?11:03
vadmestethanks Stskeeps, just testing Mer11:05
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Stskeepsvadmeste: remember that Mer is a core, so it won't do much unless you put a user interface on top. If you want to try to see Nemo (handset UI) on top of Mer, try out
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phaeronStskeeps: that was it , thanks11:13
Stskeepswe should really make rpmlint fail if we put .pc in a non-devel package..11:13
phaeronagree, in my case I don't recall it even warned11:14
vadmestethanks Stskeeps I just understood now11:21
phaeronwe should make zypper rm -u the default ..11:23
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lbttimoph: Stskeeps: reminder that exists11:26
lbtno mention of your ks or any other work done on it ... kinda hard to know where we're up to11:27
Stskeepsmm, timoph said he'd edit yesterday11:27
lbtso just a reminder to update it occasionally ... nothing heavy :)11:27
phaeronsolver.cleandependsOnRemove = true , but says not recommended11:27
phaeronStskeeps: should I open a bug about the rpmlint check11:28
Stskeepsyes please11:28
* lbt was going to try to make egltest in the SDK11:28
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phaeronpolicies and processes ?11:29
phaeronor rpmlint-meego(?) pkg in core11:29
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phaeronalso #14011:39
lbtupdated SDK wiki page11:46
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Stskeepssometimes technology is rebuilding glibc three times in a row.12:09
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phaeroncan mic bootstrap from multiple repos ?13:03
phaeronas compared to mic2 which takes --mainrepo13:04
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phaerondownloading sdk anyway13:13
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phaeron4.5 Kb/s ..13:20
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slowthats slow13:25
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lbtso rpm has autoprov ... and spectacle explicitly sets it to '0' with NoAutoProv ... fine. So why is it not making Provides: for my .so files?13:45
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lbtSage: ^^ have you any idea?13:52
timophlbt: Stskeeps something distracted me and forgot to edit the page yesterday..13:56
timophI'll do it later today13:56
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* lbt is getting pissed at rpm14:01
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lbtphaeron: you any ideas? ^^14:01
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phaeronlbt: try removing any mention of autoreq from the yaml14:04
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Sagelbt: execution permissions wrong14:04
lbtphaeron: did that14:05
Sagelbt: rpm doesn't find .so files properly if they do not have proper permissions14:05
phaeronok , it just worked for me14:05
lbtSage: ah,  OK14:05
phaeronwhat Sage said :D14:05
Sagelbt: a sec14:05
Sagelbt: line 16214:05
Sagelbt: and yes I was a bit confused by that thing as well at some point :)14:06
Sagenot sure if it is bug in our rpm or known feature14:06
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lbtProvides: /usr/lib/lib*.so.*
lbtI did a cp -a out of the MeeGo rpms btw... so they don't have good permisions in there14:08
lbtSage: thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou14:08
lbt3 hours14:08
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Sagelbt: :)14:12
lbtyay ... no my mer-gfx-test depends on emgd-lib and emgd-devel14:15
vadmesteHello. Does anyone know a cheap smartphone which is entierly opened and can have Linux installed ?14:16
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lbtfor a reasonable definition of "entirely"14:17
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_av500_open modem, open gps :)14:20
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_av500_open 3d core14:20
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vadmesteokey, I live in a country where a sandwich costs 2 dollars.. N900/950 are expensive for me..14:23
_av500_nexus one14:26
_av500_2nd hand14:26
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Stskeepslbt: your package builds against -lib and -devel of your own gles lib? usually a bad idea :P14:32
lbtI'm just following along with the excellent docs ;P14:33
lbtoh wait ... I'm monkey patching14:33
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Stskeepsit should build against mesa as provided from core, for gles/egl api :P14:34
lbtyes, I literally just added mesa-libGL-devel14:34
Stskeepshmm :P14:35
StskeepsGLESv2-devel i hope14:35
lbtonce I've done this I hope to have enough to describe a basic "what Mer needs at the gfx level"14:35
lbtsince it seems to be absent14:35
lbtcf the ARM page14:35
lbtof "oh, didn't you know that acronym" ?14:36
lbtstill getting  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL14:37
lbtwith mesa-libGLESv2-devel14:37
lbtosc chroot FWIW14:38
lbtOK ... it does need PkgBR gl, not gles214:40
Stskeepswhat are you building?14:41
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lbthits a high prio bug and also tests my joggler emgd issue14:45
lbtah well :    eglinfo: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/ undefined symbol: wl_resource_post_error14:48
lbtso I still have some wayland .so files in there or something14:49
lbtgotta go .. bbiab ...14:49
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* Stskeeps yawns15:03
* alterego would yawn but has consumed so much coffee he feels slightly drunk15:04
Stskeepsphaeron: 4.5k/s from my server? hmm15:09
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phaeronissues at osul ?15:33
phaeroneverything stopped responding ..15:34
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phaeronnet split .. ?15:34
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mdfe_lbt: is down?15:59
X-Fadenetwork outage16:00
mdfe_X-Fade: Thanks, is also down16:01
X-FadeYeah, clearly shows on the traffic log.16:01
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lbtcobs is back in case you'd not noticed16:21
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alhb/ 2916:27
alhErr hi16:27
Stskeeps'lo wolfsage16:27
alhHow goes Stskeeps ?16:29
Stskeepsi'm good, project is going ahead nicely16:30
alhAwesome :)16:35
alhWork's going good for me, and they continually say yes when I ask to attend conferences so I'm a happy camper16:35
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* dm8tbr needs to book flights for FOSDEM and ABS/ELC soon(tm)16:39
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StskeepsFOSDEM is fairly late to book for? ;)16:39
dm8tbrwell, it wasn't entirely sure till today from where in europe I'd be flying to brussels...16:40
Stskeepsyeah, good point16:40
* Stskeeps is flying from HEL -> WAW, sleepover in WAW, WAW-BRU16:41
* dm8tbr will be flying WRO-BRU and most likely BRU-BER (prolly -SXF)16:41
dm8tbrit's crazy-travel-season it seems16:42
dm8tbranyone going to ELC?16:42
Stskeepsnop, but be sure to bring a mer tshirt ;)16:42
* lbt will provide some stickers too16:42
dm8tbr*nod* noted16:42
dm8tbrone of my current laptops has a MeeGo sticker, that Mer sticker would be a good match, if it fits sizewise ;)16:43
lbtunlike Mer, the stickers are big :)16:43
dm8tbrthink big :)16:44
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lbtStskeeps: is wazd around anymore?16:45
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Stskeepslbt: he went back to doing freelance but i haven't seen him around lately16:46
lbtit was him who did the design?16:46
Stskeepsyes, but we have svgs16:46
lbtjust thought about sending him a T-shirt16:46
Stskeepsah, possibly a good idea16:46
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lbtand some attribution somewhere16:46
Stskeepsdrew.zhilin at gmail16:47
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Stskeepslbt: i wonder if rpm subpackages can have seperate versions17:00
Sagehaven't seen that used anywhere, but why not?17:01
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lbtBuildArch !17:03
mdfe_Stskeeps: hi, could you point me to the new repostory of before?17:07
Stskeeps /p/mer/release-tools17:08
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mdfe_great thanks :)17:09
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mdfe_lbt: awesome :)17:16
mdfe_next time I have to open my eyes...17:16
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lbtmdfe_: very new pages17:19
mdfe_great work!17:20
lbtthere's a fair bit of new content - centered around  .. "About Mer"17:23
lbtI have eglinfo working17:24
lbtand merux  runs17:24
lbtbut no EGL context17:24
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lbtw00t: ^^ you may know this one?17:45
w00tnot seen that afair... ask me tomorrow and i can take a look at the src (on a train without sources atm)17:46
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* timoph added link to a chroot mount script to the sdk wiki page18:13
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nsuffysEvening all :)18:59
Stskeepsevening nsuffsys19:00
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Stskeepsevening jstaniek19:08
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jstaniekevening Stskeeps19:08
jstaniekStskeeps: gathering some Qt devs for my Warsaw team:
Stskeepshow's the kexi-for-tablet ideas coming along?19:10
jstaniekStskeeps: well, it'll be completely reworked ui in line the qml components19:12
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jstanieklike marble touch, etc.
jstaniekthat said, we're still focused on desktop version, for the benefit of core, anyway19:14
jstanieki.e. benefit of using typed language like c++ instead of HTML5 toys19:14
Stskeepsi kinda like qt components for harmattan, they're nicely portable19:17
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Stskeepsnice video of the fridge :)19:21
Stskeeps(and washing machine)19:21
Stskeepsshame i just replaced my washing machine.. :P19:21
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Stskeepsyou'd be surprised how much getting notifications or starting washing would help me in my daily life :>19:24
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jstaniekStskeeps: notifiers via network?19:58
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Stskeepsjstaniek: yeah, for instance19:59
Stskeepsi almost never notice my washer finishes :P19:59
phaeronhp enyo released .. ?20:00
phaeronor am I late to know :D20:00
Stskeepsseems like you're first20:01
jstaniekStskeeps: noted. :)20:01
phaeronso it's an HTML5 js framework20:02
leinirevery time you say "html5" you get a geek-point deducted for using nonsensical buzz-words ;)20:04
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phaeronI am reading from the website ;)20:05
leinirah, ok, just a quote, that's ok then, no geek-point minuses for pointing out marketing-speak when witnessed ;)20:06
Stskeepslooks fairly oss friendly20:07
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Stskeepshave you tried dropping depth to 16 or 24?20:18
Stskeepstry that?20:18
lbtwill do ... why?20:18
Stskeepssgx has a tendancy to be picky20:19
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lbt(**) EMGD(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 3220:22
Stskeepsi know20:22
* Stskeeps glances at qtmediahub20:23
lbt(**) EMGD(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 1620:24
lbtsame problem20:24
lbtsame output from eglinfo with bfsz = 1620:25
Stskeepscan i see your xorg conf?20:25
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lbtreplaced it with yours and same problem/info20:28
Stskeepsi'm not sure, sorry20:29
Stskeepsit might be sour with newer xorg20:29
Stskeepsgrab xorg from meego 1.2 and test that out?20:29
lbt1.9 ?20:29
Stskeepswith the older dri drivers20:30
lbtOK, I'll put that on the list then20:30
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leinirStskeeps: From what i'm hearing, the webos devs /are/ really floss friendly, and seem to be making considerable headway in getting the HP lawyers undertand it too :)20:36
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leinirgranted, it's mostly picking up stuff from people talking and chatting, no concrete information from the inside, but... still :)20:38
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Stskeepslbt: care to try out something that won't need GL?20:42
lbtsure - qmlviewer is fine20:42
* Stskeeps waits for it to finish building20:44
Stskeeps , add as repo, zypper in qtmediahub-master libdeclarative-multimedia   , run with qtmediahub -opengl-usage false20:46
StskeepsSage: armv7l/armv7hl is building too atm20:46
lbtnothing provides needed by qtmediahub-master-12.1.i58620:47
lbtjust FYI and I'm looking into that20:47
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lbtI was just about to check the Mer package DB ....20:49
Stskeepsam curious to find out how it'll run on non-gles arm20:51
lbtanyhow... I got eglinfo and egltest "packaged"20:51
SageStskeeps: k, couple of packages would need retrigger in review btw, bluez and the xorg related pacakge20:51
StskeepsSage: ok20:51
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lbtoops... that wasn't the headphone socket20:53
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lbtStskeeps: should Mer honour /etc/sysconfig/proxy ?21:00
Stskeepsask pacrunner21:00
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lbtthat was a lot of download for a nice logo21:05
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Stskeepslibqtdeclarative4-particles as well21:07
lbtand, FYI, it just sits there with the logo onscreen21:07
Stskeepsand libqtmultimediakit121:07
lbtthat's rather nicer21:08
Stskeepshow does it perform?21:08
lbt(has good WAF)21:09
lbtWife Acceptance Factor .... a critical metric21:09
vgradelbt, I have, Section "DRI"21:10
vgrade        Mode         066621:10
vgradeEndSection in some old Joggler.ks21:10
lbtvgrade: hmm - worth a try21:10
lbtit should be using DRI221:10
phaeroncommented on #140 ..21:11
lbtStskeeps: doesn't quite fit the screen21:11
Stskeepslbt: well, it's for 720p i guess21:11
Stskeepsit's just a skin21:11
Stskeepsmade in qml21:12
lbtyeah - just mentioning it21:12
lbtvery nice though21:12
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Stskeepsi need to see how it performs on non-gles as well, onarm21:13
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lbtstrings /usr/bin/Xorg | grep party23:02
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kimjurelated to -retro option, iirc. had to dig out wtf that is when I first saw it in strings :)23:17
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lbtwell, emgd and xorg 1.9 is exactly the same as 1.1023:19
lbtQEglContext::createContext(): Unable to create EGL context: "Not initialized (0x3001)"23:19
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vgradelbt, Jogglers going for £50 on ebay23:26
lbtgot 323:26
vgradeI meant cut your losses23:26
vgradewe must be missing something as ubuntu and mint are ok23:26
lbtnah, It will make a great control system for HA23:27
lbtI know23:27
lbtI'm using emgd 1.10 though23:27
lbtright now I'm hunting the emgd 1.8 release tarball23:27
vgradeEMGD drivers v1.10 / Xorg 1.9/1.10 (Natty+)23:29
vgradefrom exotica23:29
vgradeI'll start a download23:30
lbtyeah, I'm running exactly that config right now23:30
vgradesee if we can compare and contrast23:30
vgradenow where is the joggler psu23:31
vgradeimage downloading, 10mins23:33
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lbtyeah ... takes a little longer here :(23:37
vgradeoh, stock joggler is boot looing23:42
vgradewonder if it needs to phone home23:42
vgradeok writing image23:43
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lbtOK ... so this stuff
lbthas xorg-emgd -
lbtI pulled the tarball23:45
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lbtand inside are the exact binary libs that I extract ... lib*GL* are from the Meego12/*rpms in the IEMGD_HEAD_Linux dir23:47
lbtand the dri/* and xorg/modules/drivers/* are from the Meego_Wayland/rpms23:47
lbtnow that runs with Xorg1.1023:48
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lbtif you use the Meego12/*rpms to get the dri/* and xorg/* drivers ... that works with Xorg1.923:48
lbtboth have the same failure to initialise egl23:49
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