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| smoku | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=kernel-adaptation-nowplus&project=home%3Asmoku%3AMer%3AHA - it's building. thanks for your help :) | 00:06 |
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| lbt | excellent | 00:06 |
| lbt | did you see the CONFIG_ warnings? | 00:08 |
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| smoku | lbt: yes. irrelevant. my kernel does not have FANOTIFY and hardware does not have CMOS clock | 00:11 |
| lbt | good | 00:11 |
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| lbt | ok .. lets add some print statements to X11... | 00:18 |
| lbt | tomorrow... | 00:18 |
| lbt | night all | 00:18 |
| smoku | nigh | 00:18 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I have sent one email to you and lbt. Any reply is appreciated:) | 04:56 |
| phaeron | good morning :) | 05:08 |
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| sonach | phaeron: good morning! What is your local time? I can't get it from my IRC client. | 05:22 |
| beford | /ctcp nick time | 05:24 |
| sonach | beford: I do the command, but no result comes out... | 05:25 |
| beford | weird | 05:25 |
| beford | check in the server status window? | 05:25 |
| sonach | And "/ctcp beford gime" can give result:) | 05:25 |
| sonach | so it is real ly weird... | 05:27 |
| phaeron | maybe I blocked it or something | 05:29 |
| phaeron | I don't remember | 05:29 |
| phaeron | it's 7:30 am here | 05:29 |
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| * Stskeeps needs coffee | 05:35 | |
| phaeron | I just had mine :D | 05:36 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: good morning! | 05:37 |
| Stskeeps | good morning | 05:38 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I have built mer-core-xorg-basis rootfs successfully. I find that there are three directories under /lib/modules: 2.6.38-8-generic, 3.0.0.14-generic, 3.0.0.14-generic-pae. | 05:38 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i'll get to your emails in about an hour or so, need breakfast :) | 05:38 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: And I copy my "linux-2.6.35-8" into /lib/modules. How do Mer know that linux-2.6.35-8 is the propriate one? | 05:39 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ah, breadfast first, please:) | 05:39 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: The real problem for me comes now! jffs2 for mer-core-xorg-basis is about 115MB。Can you give me some instructions to slice the footprint? | 05:47 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: The NANDFLASH size is 128MB。the current config allocate 58MB for rootfs(I am trying to make this region bigger...) | 05:49 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Even I can make the rootfs region bigger, 115MB of rootfs is still too big for me... | 05:49 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, as a start, you can add --excludedocs to %packages line in .ks | 05:54 |
| Stskeeps | like %packages --excludedocs | 05:54 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Now the flash layout is "58M(rootfs),3M(apparam1),3M(apparam2),8M(ui),35M(app)", I think I should make it to "107M(rootfs)" | 06:00 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK, I will try the %packages entry | 06:01 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: After adding "--excludedocs", nothing changed at all. Am I do something wrong? | 06:04 |
| Stskeeps | i'm checking myself | 06:04 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: the %package content is http://pastie.org/3235248 | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ah.. | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: %packages --excludedocs | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | not --excludedocs on it's own line :) | 06:08 |
| sonach | ok:) | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: other options in the future is investigating ubifs instead of jffs2, which is faster and more efficient, but you're right, even 100mb is a bit high | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | --excludedocs cuts 4 mb of compressed size for me at least | 06:10 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I will try ubifs later. But as for 100mb, in fact our product of STB will be 256MB for hi3716m. I think 100MB is not very high. | 06:10 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Of course, less size is preferred:) | 06:10 |
| phaeron | how many locales are pregenerated in glibc package ? | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: one, i think | 06:11 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Not from 239772 to 223204. still too high, deep instructions? | 06:12 |
| sonach | Now from 239772 to 223204. | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yeah, i'm looking what else can be done easily | 06:12 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK. And I see whether I can adjust the flash layout, | 06:13 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: my mer rootfs has 35M in /usr/share/locale | 06:13 |
| phaeron | and 44M in fonts | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: in the %packages section, on it's own line, add -cjkuni-fonts | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | that removes chinese fonts right now, which isn't good, but good enough for experimenting | 06:15 |
| sonach | phaeron: ah, I can see a lot of locale in /usr/share | 06:15 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: good point! I will try it, | 06:15 |
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| Stskeeps | that cuts my MIPS image to 80mb at least | 06:21 |
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| phaeron | you should minimize the kernel too , disable any unneeded modules | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: btw, not sure if you saw: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mer-on-mipsel-qemu.png - mer on MIPS booting to qmlviewer on emulator | 06:23 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: is gcc supposed to be included in core ? | 06:24 |
| phaeron | I mean base images | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: libgcc yes, not gcc | 06:24 |
| phaeron | why is it in my rootfs :( | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: i don't see it in my base image at least | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: rpm -e to find out | 06:24 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: it cuts to 185640kB now. | 06:25 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I saw the mips png, | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, so compressed it would be a lot smaller | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | ie, in jffs2 format | 06:25 |
| phaeron | hmm it's added explicitly added in the core ks | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: what .ks did you base off? | 06:25 |
| phaeron | mer-core-i586 | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: if it includes glibc-devel too, then you got an old version that is useful for cross compilation? | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120120.1/kickstarts/ | 06:26 |
| phaeron | yep probably | 06:27 |
| phaeron | ok nevermind :) | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, answering your questions: i think you're looking at /lib/modules for your computer and not the target's root file system, because 3.0.0.14-generic-pae sounds like something a PC would want :) | 06:27 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: mer / modprobe determines the right directory based on 'uname -r' from the device | 06:31 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: your are right. I look into "/" so find 3.0.0.4... | 06:33 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I dont understand "mer / modprobe determines the right directory based on 'uname -r' from the device" | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: on my pc: | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | carsten@ideapad:~/NOBACKUP$ uname -r | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | 2.6.35.12-90.fc14.i686 | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | so it uses that value to find the right /lib/modules/ directory | 06:35 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK, I see! | 06:37 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: there are a lot more entries in /etc/securetty! | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yes, it's historical - just add ttyAMA0 | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | you can also log in with user mer, password rootme, and then su, password rootme | 06:38 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: but I can see "ttyama0". is it the same as ttyAMA0?: | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | maybe | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | if you can log in with root and password rootme, then it works | 06:38 |
| sonach | OK | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | if not, that looks like a bug | 06:39 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Now jffs2 is about 90MB:) | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | ok, better | 06:40 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: another question. phaeron advised me to add "depmod -a" in the "%post" section. And I copy hifb.ko file to /lib/modules/linux2.6.35-7/kernel/kmod. Will hifb.ko be loaded automatically after Mer has booted? | 06:42 |
| sonach | I think hifb.ko should be loadeer before qmlviewer , | 06:42 |
| sonach | should be loaded | 06:42 |
| phaeron | to load automatically , use lbt's instructions | 06:42 |
| phaeron | http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-man/modules-load.d.html | 06:43 |
| phaeron | what I suggested is how to package the external modules you had | 06:43 |
| sonach | phaeron: hmm, so what your suggesstion is to put hifo.ko to correct place? | 06:43 |
| phaeron | yes | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, test if it loads it automatically: by writing 'lsmod', if not, verify that it loads if you do 'modprobe hifb' | 06:44 |
| sonach | ok:) | 06:45 |
| Stskeeps | manually insmod'ing is not good in modern linux :) | 06:45 |
| sonach | Yes, I realize that I am out of modern already:) | 06:46 |
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| Stskeeps | out of curiousity, those hifb.ko and so on, do you get the source code for them too or they are closed source? | 06:54 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I don't quite sure about this. I can find several .c files under the fb directory, but I don't know whether they are enough for make hifb.ko... | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:16 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: the makefile for this is: http://pastie.org/3235481. It seems that I have the source code. Can you confirm it? | 07:19 |
| Stskeeps | it looks like that, at least | 07:20 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: regarding qtmediahub, it seems well developed - http://gitorious.org/qtmediahub , i think it's the best bet for non-3D platforms, as otherwise you would have to implement own UI and basic logic | 07:22 |
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| Stskeeps | and license is also business friendly | 07:22 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: and it can be skinned easily to take usage of 3D platforms eventually too | 07:24 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: What bother me is that QtMediaHub seems very inactive... | 07:31 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: yes, i can understand that worry | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | development wise they seem to be active though | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: otherwise it should be easy to make something with html5 too | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | but that requires a lot of own effort | 07:32 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: you mean, build my own UX on top of HTML5? | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | yes, for example - we have a very good runtime based on qtwebkit | 07:35 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Currently all UX of our products are base on browser. | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | ok, good or bad? :) | 07:36 |
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| sonach | This is another choice. IN fact, we think that most apps on TV will be web-based. | 07:38 |
| sonach | But I take it for granted that we need an UX which is native... | 07:39 |
| sonach | I don't know whether my point of view is right... | 07:39 |
| sonach | In fact, If I cannot port XBMC or QtMediaHub to my platform untill 2012.03.01. I have to turn to web-based UX... | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | yep - i think what matters is the runtime really | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | ie, a fast qtwebkit for example, with ability to use 3d acceleration eventually | 07:41 |
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| sonach | If web-based UX, the only thing is to make nice web pages and write some js codes, is that right? | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | right, and backend calls | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | it should be possible to run PhoneGap HTML5 applications too | 07:42 |
| sonach | Is qtwebkit suitable for this? | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:42 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: already have the util-linux ready (needed that for udev experiments) | 07:44 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: We have a team dedicated to browser. So "a lot of own effort" seems not a big problem:) | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: mer is supposed to be a fast qt/qml, html5 core, so what you put on top is good :) | 07:44 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I think qt/qml is conflict with html5? one would choose html5 or qml, not the two at the same time, | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | nop, you can do both | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | for example, there's a port of phonegap (html5 apis) on top of qt webkit | 07:46 |
| sonach | qt webkit supports the "fast html5 core"? | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:47 |
| sonach | what if general webkit? | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | general webkit is also possible, but usually webkit has a UI backend | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | like gtk or EFL | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | or qt | 07:48 |
| sonach | Is X11 not enough for webkit UI backend? | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | not raw x11, i think | 07:49 |
| sonach | If wayland is included in mer, then Is wayland enough for webkit UI backend? | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | but with qtwebkit you can go straight to framebuffer too | 07:49 |
| sonach | If "with qtwebkit you can go straight to framebuffer", qt is useless anymore? | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | no, qt is what enables it to render to framebuffer :) | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | webkit always has a 'render', qtwebkit is webkit with qt renderer | 07:50 |
| sonach | IN my point of view, what qt provides for webkit is its UI controls(qlabel, qbutton,pixmap,etc...). Is that right? | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | not only, it also provides ways to render to screen, like x11, wayland, egl/glesv2, etc :), or html5 backend things like backend screen, | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | or framebuffer | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | backend database, i mean | 07:52 |
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| sonach | IN one case, our browser uses directfb directly. So I still can not understand why Qt is a necessity... | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | i guess there's a directfb backend too | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | based on gtk, i think | 07:55 |
| sonach | or cario? | 07:56 |
| sonach | webkit + cario + fb/dfb? | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | or cairo, yeah | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | well, you can use any solution you would like :) | 07:56 |
| w00t | qt is a full port, so it also provides e.g. networking (fetching of resources, caching), ... | 07:57 |
| sonach | ah, I just try to make myself clear about the arch of browser. So my choice would be qtwebkit or "webkit + cario + x11/fb/dfb", Is that right? | 07:57 |
| w00t | http://ariya.blogspot.com/2011/06/your-webkit-port-is-special-just-like.html is good reading there | 07:57 |
| w00t | it describes what a 'port' is | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: can't read blogspot in china, can you pastie somehow? | 07:58 |
| sonach | w00t: thanks for your instruction, | 07:58 |
| w00t | ah, right | 07:58 |
| w00t | hold on and i'll mirror it | 07:58 |
| sonach | w00t: yes , I can not access blogspot | 07:58 |
| sonach | w00t: thank you, waiting your mirror:) | 07:59 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: After discussing with you. I think I should consider html5-based UX instead of XBMC or QtMediaHub, | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | it's also possible to have html5 applications and qt ui, as an example | 08:00 |
| sonach | I don't understand "to have html5 applications and qt ui"... | 08:01 |
| w00t | sonach: http://qtl.me/webkit_port_is_special_tmp/ariya.blogspot.com/2011/06/your-webkit-port-is-special-just-like.html | 08:01 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: html5 web apps and qt native apps? or html5 web apps and qt UX? | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok, like, to mix - so for example you design a qt UX and then you can have 3rd party applications made in html5 | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | but i think html5 ux sounds like a decent direction | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | as it fits with your existing products | 08:02 |
| sonach | w00t: still cannot access the page... | 08:03 |
| w00t | uhh | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: try to remove the "blogspot.com" part | 08:03 |
| w00t | yeah | 08:03 |
| w00t | that's some scary stuff ;p | 08:04 |
| w00t | hold on | 08:04 |
| w00t | http://qtl.me/webkit_port_is_special_tmp/ariya.bs.com/2011/06/your-webkit-port-is-special-just-like.html | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | else http://pastie.org/3235625 | 08:06 |
| w00t | hmph | 08:07 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: you always take the easy way out ;p | 08:07 |
| sonach | Thank you two!! | 08:07 |
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| Stskeeps | morn mdfe_ | 08:49 |
| mdfe_ | god morning | 08:50 |
| mdfe_ | good | 08:50 |
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| ScriptRipper | good morning | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | good morning ScriptRipper | 08:54 |
| lbt | morning all | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: how difficult would it be to start having automatic packages for opensuse made of the github merproject things? | 08:57 |
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| mdfe_ | ls | 08:58 |
| Sage | directory not found | 08:59 |
| mdfe_ | sorry | 08:59 |
| mdfe_ | m) | 08:59 |
| Sage | ;) | 08:59 |
| * Sage ponders if the udev spawn could be actually cause by connman, ofono, bluez or something similar | 09:05 | |
| Sage | time to do very minimalistic image I guess :) | 09:05 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: you can drop 3mb or so by adding "-kbd" as well, to %packages | 09:21 |
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| AWasisto | Sorry, I'm a noob... Is there any idea to port 'apt' and 'dpkg' to Mer? Thank you! :) | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | no :) we use zypper and rpm | 09:25 |
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| AWasisto | Yes, I know it. But, if we have apt and dpkg, we can try to add harmattan's repo. | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | i suppose you could theoretically if you wanted | 09:29 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: What is about the yaml stuff to create packages for opensuse? | 09:29 |
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| Stskeeps | mdfe_: what? :P | 09:30 |
| mdfe_ | you asks for " to start having automatic packages for opensuse" | 09:30 |
| AWasisto | I've tried to install something on Mer from Harmattan's repo. There's no end for dependencies problem. Huh! | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | AWasisto: it's a big stack on harmattan | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | AWasisto: it's easier to just unpack | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: ah, it was because we want to build our OBS packages, ie, the actual obs system, for opensuse | 09:31 |
| Sage | AWasisto: rpm in Mer and deb in harmattan ahve different package databases so they don't see packages installed | 09:31 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: ahh ,ok | 09:32 |
| AWasisto | I've tried to install 'ovistoreclient' downloaded from Maemo, also a bunch of dependencies, 'package-manager' and other thing like that too... Store can run, can't see any apps... :( | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | we can't really be compatible with closed source things :) | 09:37 |
| AWasisto | Of course... | 09:37 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: mic's quite nice, btw | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i have some small patches for mips support eventually | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | as the qemu handling is a bit arm specific atm | 09:53 |
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| ScriptRipper | ScriptRipper: you mean OBS pkgs | 10:16 |
| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps: github merproject == OBS ? | 10:17 |
| ScriptRipper | I always generate the obs pkgs from the src | 10:18 |
| ScriptRipper | by a script | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | what script do you ue? | 10:21 |
| ScriptRipper | own written script and a preconfigured tree of checked out git sources | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | something we can make run automatically? | 10:23 |
| ScriptRipper | yes, only automatic | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:23 |
| ScriptRipper | why do you ask ? | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | well, because in the next two weeks we'll probably start deploying sb2-obs patches to various places | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | and it's best to have central obs packages to update from:) | 10:24 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: oh, but if it works for mips without large mods that is nice | 10:24 |
| ScriptRipper | we need deployment branch | 10:24 |
| ScriptRipper | do we want to mimic openSUSE:Tools or something else | 10:25 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: btw, could you remove consolekit from next mer core? | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes, after i've done the invasive changes first | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: something like opensuse:tools at least | 10:26 |
| ScriptRipper | which OBS do we use for packaging ? | 10:26 |
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| ScriptRipper | we could also use opensuse.org | 10:27 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: and if it causes some errors let me know and I'll give those a look | 10:28 |
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| lbt | yay.... joggler worked | 10:37 |
| lbt | which is really annoying since all I did was reboot it | 10:40 |
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| lbt | still - I found I can switch HA kernels in about 20mins and that the kernel-devel headers work from 2.6.37 to 3.1.6 | 10:40 |
| lbt | now to erase it all and make it build from a ks :) | 10:41 |
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| Sage | lbt: some more kernel option checks: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=blob;hb=HEAD;f=README | 10:42 |
| lbt | Sage: easy :) | 10:43 |
| lbt | which is nice | 10:43 |
| lbt | also, we have a comment string which is output when it fails or warns - so links to pages are good | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | qtmediahub works fairly ok with use-gl=false | 10:46 |
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| lbt | I'd be interested in helping people use merproject to maintain a port of apps/suites like that | 10:47 |
| Sage | lbt: and for systemd the link http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/README#n34 | 10:49 |
| lbt | doing them now | 10:51 |
| lbt | hmmm my 950 just spontaneously rebooted - old Nemo though | 10:53 |
| lbt | powered up for about a week | 10:53 |
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| timoph | waiting to get my Pi so I can try mer+qtmediahub etc. | 11:03 |
| timoph | with it | 11:04 |
| lbt | timoph: so ... where should we run that project? | 11:04 |
| lbt | I'd like it on a joggler | 11:04 |
| timoph | hmmh | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | start from vgrade's home:vgrade:qtmediahub at least | 11:05 |
| timoph | ah. vgrade is already on it :) | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | but it's out of date | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | so packagers needed | 11:06 |
| timoph | hmmh. that sounds like something I like to do :) | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | hint, "use-gl=false" in foo.conf and --conf=foo.conf turns off the need for opengl | 11:06 |
| lbt | and a wiki page and links to the git fork we use... | 11:07 |
| lbt | and contact details | 11:07 |
| timoph | yeah | 11:07 |
| timoph | fork sounds bad. I'd at least try to stay as close to upstream as possible | 11:08 |
| vgrade | xbmc guys are cleaning the Pi omx drivers for release so we should be able to get some video as well | 11:08 |
| lbt | timoph: you've been fud'ed | 11:08 |
| timoph | :) | 11:08 |
| lbt | fork == branch == managed release | 11:08 |
| lbt | we just want a repo we can git tag | 11:09 |
| lbt | (IMHO) | 11:09 |
| timoph | so we just clone it in gitorious | 11:09 |
| lbt | yes | 11:09 |
| lbt | OK clone may be a better word :) | 11:09 |
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| timoph | :) | 11:09 |
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| lbt | bbiab | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | or just package git snapshots from upstream? :P | 11:11 |
| timoph | that was my initial idea but since it's just a reference implementation we might have to hack it a bit | 11:11 |
| timoph | or we could take the core from upstream and make our skin for it | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | core from upstream, several nice skins available, seperately packaged | 11:15 |
| timoph | yep | 11:15 |
| timoph | they've already separated the skins in upstream | 11:15 |
| timoph | so that helps | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 11:15 |
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| timoph | would be nice of them to move the packaging stuff into subprojects. or just get rid of it since it looks like it's generated by qtcreator for harmattan | 11:20 |
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| Stskeeps | ANNOUNCEMENT: Mer bug triage in #mer-meeting in 30 minutes | 11:30 |
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| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Size | 11:57 |
| lbt | "Mer is aimed at mobile devices and whilst it is not a minimal/embedded system it can still have a very small footprint" | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | can we slice out 'very'? | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | it gives too high expectations | 11:58 |
| lbt | it's a wiki :) | 11:58 |
| lbt | really I just saw your chat with sonach and thought - we should capture some of that | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:58 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: what sets %{py_ver} ? | 12:09 |
| Sage | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/rpmlint-mini.git;a=blob;f=rpmlint-mini.spec;h=a893f3df41f5b2b7564f9a1ecb6a9c4c29527abf;hb=HEAD#l54 | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: /etc/macros/ | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | er, /etc/rpm/macros/ | 12:09 |
| Sage | k | 12:10 |
| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps: what config do we provide for a deployment, and in which combo of other packages used by OBS like bugzilla, BOSS, Hermes for example ? | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: i think for first deployments we just need to do simple OBS | 12:15 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Accroding to lbt's suggestion, I create /etc/modules-load.d/loadko.conf, and add "hifb" in loadko.conf. My question is, if "insmod hi_gpioi2c.ko gpioidclock=11 clockbit=3 gpioiddata=12 databit=5 i2cmode=2", how to get this into loadko.conf? | 12:39 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: hehe, i was wondering when that question came :) | 12:40 |
| lbt | me too | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: so, modules.load.d/loadko.conf will cause "modprobe hifb" to be executed | 12:40 |
| sonach | http://pastie.org/3236670 is from the vendor's rootfs, | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: modprobe will look in /etc/modprobe.d/ for .conf files, in there, you can add "options hi_gpio2c gpioidclock=11 clockbit=3 gpioiddata=12 databit=5 i2cmode=2" | 12:42 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: /etc/modprobe.d or /etc/modules-load.d ?? | 12:42 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: does systemd exec modprobe or emulate it? | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: add hi_gpio2c in loadko.conf | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | er, hi_gpioi2c | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | and in /etc/modprobe.d/hi_gpioi2c.conf , add "options hi_gpioi2c gpioidclock=11 clockbit=3 gpioiddata=12 databit=5 i2cmode=2" | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: when 'modprobe hi_gpioi2c' is done, it will look in /etc/modprobe.d and find the "options hi_gpioi2c" line and insmod with those parameters | 12:44 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: ah, it is very clear!! | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i'll be abroad next monday, can you manage the mer bug triage there? | 12:52 |
| lbt | sure | 12:52 |
| lbt | I'll make a note | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | k | 12:53 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: mer-core-xorg-basis started. some errors, please look at http://pastie.org/3236795 | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: can i see the %post section of your .ks ? | 13:18 |
| sonach | ok, | 13:18 |
| Sage | uxlaunch default session seems missing | 13:18 |
| Sage | <13>uxlaunch[374]: Unable to find session "/usr/share/xsessions/default.desktop.desktop"! | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that's my thought too | 13:19 |
| Sage | goes to infinite loop | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: we should really have some kind of fallback option, ie, stop after failing several times.. | 13:19 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3236816 | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, can you cat /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch ? | 13:20 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I seems that I cannot login. In http://pastie.org/3236795, you can see that information, | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: username mer, password rootme | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | and then su, password rootme | 13:22 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I cannot use "root" directly? | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: that's the /etc/securetty thing | 13:22 |
| sonach | Login incorrect<85> | 13:22 |
| sonach | login[271]: FAILED LOGIN 1 FROM (null) FOR root, Authentication failure | 13:22 |
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| Stskeeps | Password: <84>login[271]: pam_securetty(login:auth): access denied: tty 'ttyAMA0' is not secure ! | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | so log in with 'mer' user :) | 13:23 |
| sonach | why mer-core-basis rootfs does have this problem? I can login with root at that time | 13:25 |
| sonach | why mer-core-basis rootfs does not have this problem | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i'm not entirely sure, maybe you had done the /etc/securetty adding 'ttyama0' back then | 13:25 |
| sonach | http://pastie.org/3236846 | 13:27 |
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| sonach | the result of sysconfig/uxlaunch | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ahh.. | 13:29 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: the contents of http://pastie.org/3236816 should not be in %post --nochroot, but in %post :) | 13:29 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: what does "--nochroot" mean? | 13:36 |
| sonach | I will try it now, | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: it means "execute outside target" | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | useful for adding downloadable things, for example | 13:36 |
| sonach | so i just delete "--nochroot"? or add another section named "%post"? | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | if you don't have another section called %post, then just remove --nochroot | 13:38 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: the whole ks file: http://pastie.org/3236903 | 13:39 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I have seperate %post section. | 13:39 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: or just move the contents in "%post --nochroot" section to "%post" section? | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | yes, move the contents in %post --nochroot" section to %post section | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | so it looks like http://pastie.org/3236917 | 13:41 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I am building image now:) | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:44 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I am making rapid progress under your help:) It is real an intersting technical trip! | 13:45 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe | 13:47 |
| lbt | slaine: ping ... I had the kernel_version problem too ... ugly solution http://pastie.org/3236947 .... did you do better? | 13:50 |
| slaine | lbt, that's not too bad. It's at least along the lines of something I was thinking of anyways. But I didn't follow through as I ended up not actually needing the rpm package that I started out the quest on. | 13:51 |
| lbt | OK - fyi I have a out-of-tree module building package that works based on emgd_drm | 13:52 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: ah, in the previous rootfs, no ttyAMA0 in securetty!! I found out my pc's securetty had ttyama0 at that time. | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ah | 13:53 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: so why the login prompt can come out? I am puzzled... | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | we should probably file a bug about that | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: it can come out fine but you can't log straight into root, you can however log in as a user and then su to root | 13:53 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: actually, that's odd, i wonder why the login prompt came on :) | 13:54 |
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| Stskeeps | if you didn't do the ln -s ../getty@ thing | 13:54 |
| lbt | systemd is smart | 13:54 |
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| phaeron | I disagree sometimes :D | 13:55 |
| lbt | hehe | 13:55 |
| lbt | I nearly said "too" | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | trust me, it's a lot more sane than our previous rc.sysinit stuff | 13:55 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3237029 :) | 14:04 |
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| Sage | sonach: cat /home/meego/.xsession-errors | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ls -l /dev/fb0 | 14:04 |
| sonach | OK, | 14:04 |
| Sage | err... mer user? | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes, the .ks'es changed to that | 14:05 |
| Sage | does that work now? | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: remember last time, that was a problem with out HA | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | our HA | 14:05 |
| Sage | it was? | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | udev rules | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | powervr | 14:05 |
| Sage | ah, that. But did it work after that? | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not sure but i think so | 14:06 |
| Sage | somehow I recall that it failed even after taht | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: at least mer core on mips works with it | 14:06 |
| lbt | works here | 14:06 |
| Sage | ok | 14:06 |
| Sage | Then I remember wrong. | 14:06 |
| Sage | I wonder if there would be way to get it done without hardcoded username | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: probably 'video' group | 14:06 |
| Sage | maybe | 14:07 |
| lbt | Sage: we autostart X as a user... needs creating | 14:07 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: no /dev/fb0. I "insmod hifb.ko", error occurs: http://pastie.org/3237047 | 14:07 |
| sonach | Sage: no "/home/meego/.xsession-errors" exists, | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yes, you probably need to insmod the other things first | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | that's why it's good to work with modprobe instead ;) | 14:08 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: In the mer-core-base rootfs, I can "insmod hifb.ko" | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: did you copy modules to /lib/modules ? | 14:09 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes. and in /etc/modules-load.d/loadko.conf, I added the entries, | 14:09 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: video works. will do a patch | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: hmm | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: my connection is really slow right now, so think i'll go to supermarket -- what does 'lsmod' say? | 14:13 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Now I manage to insmod hifb.ko successfully, | 14:16 |
| sonach | but similar error: http://pastie.org/3237103 | 14:17 |
| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps, is the MIPS version of Mer Core up to trunk now ? | 14:17 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I insmod serveral ko files before hifb.ko, and it is fine:) | 14:17 |
| lbt | sonach: using depmod -a and modprobe should solve that | 14:18 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Now there are /dev/fb0 1,2,3,4,5. there. | 14:18 |
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| sonach | lbt: what bothers me is, why Mer doesn't load the drivers automatically?> | 14:19 |
| lbt | mainly because you don't do depmod -a :) | 14:19 |
| lbt | that calculates module dependencies | 14:19 |
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| sonach | lbt: ah, I added "depmod -a" to "%post" section of ks file. but it doesn't take effect. | 14:20 |
| lbt | hmm | 14:20 |
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| lbt | /sbin/depmod -a ? | 14:21 |
| sonach | in /lib/modules/2.6.35-7/modules.def, no "hifb.ko" entries... | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: did you put hifb.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.35-7 ? | 14:21 |
| lbt | what he said | 14:21 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes, | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: interesting | 14:22 |
| lbt | what about the other .ko files? | 14:22 |
| sonach | lbt: I do "depmod -a" in mer , and success, and in modules.dep, there are "hifb.ko" entries there! | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | ah, good | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | now try a reboot? | 14:22 |
| lbt | OK, I admit I've had problems running depmod -a in %post | 14:22 |
| sonach | reboot will take effect? | 14:23 |
| lbt | and I need to resolve that | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yes | 14:23 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: the changes are written to flash? | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yes | 14:23 |
| sonach | cool. | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | 'sync' and then reboot | 14:23 |
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| lbt | systemctl reboot | 14:24 |
| lbt | oh, it's a symlink | 14:24 |
| sonach | lbt: I "reboot", now it is dead... | 14:25 |
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| lbt | hehe | 14:25 |
| sonach | lbt: I have to poweroff? | 14:25 |
| sonach | and then poweron? | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i guess, and start again | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | some devices don't reboot nicely | 14:25 |
| lbt | acpi problem maybe? | 14:25 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: first "sync" and second "systemctl reboot". is that right? | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: arm doesn't have acpi | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: reboot's just plain broken | 14:26 |
| lbt | ok... good to know | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yes, but some devices don't reboot in a happy way, but if it acts 'dead', just power off and power on | 14:26 |
| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps, which Mer code base is the MIPS version you have posted about ? | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | but if = when it is | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: webui-ci.tspre.org , projects -> home:Admin:mips2 | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: i'm integrating it officially during the next two weeks | 14:27 |
| sonach | [root@localhost ~]# systemctl reboot | 14:27 |
| sonach | Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:27 |
| ScriptRipper | is the the same as rest of Mer Core for ARM / x86 or is that current work ? | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, just sync and power off and power on ;) | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: i still need to integrate some patches, but yes, same versions, packages | 14:27 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok:) | 14:27 |
| ScriptRipper | so its "trunk" basically, some patches missing ? | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: right | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: so a top modern mips distro, gcc 4.6.2, qt 4.8.0, etc | 14:28 |
| ScriptRipper | great work | 14:28 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: let me know if you get /dev/fb0 after reboot | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | as in, when you've started up agan | 14:30 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: /dev/fb0 is over there. but still similar errors: http://pastie.org/3237170 | 14:31 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: cat /home/mer/.Xorg.0log | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: cat /home/mer/.Xorg.0.log | 14:31 |
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| Stskeeps | if that file doesn't exist, then /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 14:34 |
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| sonach | ok, | 14:38 |
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| Stskeeps | also, ls -l /usr/bin/Xorg | 14:39 |
| sonach | http://pastie.org/3237234 | 14:39 |
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| sonach | ls /usr/bin/Xorg -l gives: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1642968 Jan 19 2012 /usr/bin/Xorg | 14:40 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 14:40 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Fatal server error: [ 645.159] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (No such file or directory) | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yes, can i see your kernel .config ? | 14:43 |
| sonach | It seems that I should rebuilt kernel with console 1 support? | 14:43 |
| sonach | OK | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | i'm fairly sure you're missing CONFIG_VT | 14:44 |
| sonach | http://pastie.org/3237260 | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | yup | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | CONFIG_VT=y needs to be set | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ^ | 14:44 |
| lbt | :) | 14:45 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK!! I will add that and rebuild kernel | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: make clean and make the kernel after adding CONFIG_VT=y (removing # CONFIG_VT is not set) and try again | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | i'm going to shop now, be back later | 14:45 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: nice to shop:) | 14:46 |
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| sonach | by train to shop?? | 14:46 |
| lbt | *g* | 14:46 |
| lbt | my wife has gone to the shops by train | 14:47 |
| lbt | now she's coming home | 14:47 |
| lbt | I stay here to work :D | 14:47 |
| lbt | o/ | 14:47 |
| sonach | lbt: Happy life:) | 14:47 |
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| sonach | lbt: I made a big mistake. I just do "make" without adding arm toolchain to PATH. so the .config was modified in chaos.. | 14:53 |
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| vgrade | sonach, you pastied it earlier | 15:02 |
| vgrade | http://pastie.org/3237260 :) | 15:03 |
| sonach | vgrade: ah yes. Now I just make oldconfig and it seems right.... | 15:03 |
| sonach | vgrade: if it doesn't, I will copy the content of pastie. thank you:) | 15:04 |
| vgrade | sonach, not the best backup | 15:04 |
| sonach | vgrade: You have home:vgrade:qtmediahub? | 15:04 |
| vgrade | yes, a bit old now | 15:05 |
| vgrade | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjsxKEacIkU | 15:05 |
| sonach | is it suitable for TV UX? | 15:06 |
| vgrade | Not sure about the implementation details I just built it for Mer. A good base I would say | 15:07 |
| sonach | vgrade: Unfortunely, It seems that I can not access youtube.... | 15:09 |
| sonach | just like blogspot... | 15:09 |
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| lbt | sonach: oops | 15:14 |
| sonach | lbt: the new kernel doesn't work. It stops at "starting kernel..." | 15:15 |
| sonach | lbt: I have to reconfig the environment | 15:15 |
| lbt | yeah - this is the nice thing about OBS - it's always clean | 15:16 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: i tried qtmediahub out earlier, on PC, and it worked quite nice even without GLES, but i don't know how it performs on arm hardwre | 15:30 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: good:) I think write a html5-based TV UX needs a large amount of work... So maybe qtmediahub a good choice... | 15:31 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: although our previous work was based on browser, but I think it is quite different with a real TV/STB UX. | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | yes, let's see what performs best i guess | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | in longer term, on that hardware, you probably want to have it on top of directfb instead of x11 | 15:36 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: but Mer is based on X11?? | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: no, it doesn't have to be :) | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | it's just what most people run it with | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | right now it's just good to get something working though, so x11 is fine | 15:37 |
| sonach | i agree:) | 15:38 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: After I do "sync" and reboot, the /dev/fb0 is there, it means that hifb.ko is loaded. My question is, how does this take effect, /etc/modules-load.d/loadko.conf? | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yes | 15:52 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: After I add CONFIG_VT, compile error. Have you ever seen such: http://pastie.org/3237623? | 15:53 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: If you cannot meet this before, I will solve it myself:) Your time is very limited, I think:) | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yeah, just find out how to disable CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE | 15:55 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I find it! | 15:56 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: the default value of VGA_CONSOLE is yes( [Y/n/?]) :) | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | we're on ARM, 'n' ;) | 15:57 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I guess I succeed! see: http://pastie.org/3237738 | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: does it show anything on the screen? | 16:15 |
| sonach | [root@localhost mer]# ps -ef | grep uxlaunch | 16:15 |
| sonach | mer 281 1 0 00:00 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/uxlaunch | 16:16 |
| sonach | root 286 281 0 00:00 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/uxlaunch | 16:16 |
| sonach | root 420 392 0 00:02 ttyAMA0 00:00:00 grep uxlaunch | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | ps aux | grep qmlviewer | 16:16 |
| sonach | [root@localhost mer]# ps aux | grep qmlviewer | 16:16 |
| sonach | mer 317 3.6 25.5 64916 23588 ? Sl 00:00 0:09 /usr/bin/qmlviewer | 16:16 |
| sonach | mer 322 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z 00:00 0:00 [qmlviewer] <defunct> | 16:16 |
| sonach | root 424 0.0 0.6 2088 568 ttyAMA0 S+ 00:04 0:00 grep qmlviewer | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | looks right | 16:16 |
| sonach | it is over there;) | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | congratulations :) | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | hope it shows something on the tv screen too though | 16:17 |
| sonach | thanks for your great help:) | 16:17 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I can ignore this: "(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)"? | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 16:18 |
| sonach | Why? | 16:18 |
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| Stskeeps | it's something xorg looks for but we don't use AIGLX on ARM | 16:18 |
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| Stskeeps | and software raster gles isn't very fast | 16:19 |
| sonach | oh, i see. In chroot environment, I have seem similar Xorg.0.log output. I think qmlviewer is working now:) I have no TV screen with me right now. | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, okay :) | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, it looks fine | 16:20 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I will go out of Beijing for 3 days. I will tell what's on the tv screen 3 days later. You know, it is mid-night, and I should go to sleep:) | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, i'm quite sure what it will show :) | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, see you | 16:22 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Again thanks for the great help. see you:) | 16:23 |
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| wmarone_ | Stskeeps: did you ever get a chance to try out that image? | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: waiting for my wife to come home from work with the e-reader, but yes, i'll work on it tonight | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | er, nook | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | so the issue is that the touch seems totally screwed? | 16:26 |
| wmarone_ | partially | 16:26 |
| wmarone_ | it works, but doesn't map to the screen correctly | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | and it works fine in ubuntu? | 16:26 |
| wmarone_ | no, I don't know about ubuntu | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:26 |
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| wmarone_ | at least, I never saw the cursor in ubuntu | 16:27 |
| wmarone_ | nor anything that suggested input events were being received | 16:27 |
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| Stskeeps | wmarone_: supposedly there's a calibration mode thing as well | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | http://nookdevs.com/Recalibrate_the_NookColor_touch_screen | 16:29 |
| wmarone_ | hmm | 16:29 |
| wmarone_ | I saw that when poking around the code | 16:30 |
| wmarone_ | makes me wonder if the Android install runs that on every boot, because I don't see the same behavior outside Mer | 16:31 |
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| wmarone_ | don't think I've seen the dmesg output though | 16:31 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, wife home, hacking time.. | 16:53 |
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| Stskeeps | wmarone_: this boots up with some kind of usbnet i presume | 16:58 |
| wmarone_ | yes | 16:58 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:59 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: In our house it goes exactly the oppisite.. gf not home == hacking time :p | 16:59 |
| wmarone_ | I don't have anything in there to report the IP, I ended up settling on using nmap to look for it >.> | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: well, if it works ;) | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: hehe | 16:59 |
| wmarone_ | fortunately it's pretty consistent in the address it choses | 17:00 |
| wmarone_ | chooses* | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: i wonder how well something like qtmediahub could run on this beast | 17:00 |
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| wmarone_ | good question | 17:01 |
| lbt | wmarone_: nook... | 17:04 |
| wmarone_ | hm? | 17:04 |
| lbt | would you care to try the Mer HA packaging for it? | 17:04 |
| wmarone_ | HA? | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | hardware adaptation | 17:04 |
| wmarone_ | ah | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | we're trying to help standardize on packaging / make easier packaging | 17:04 |
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| wmarone_ | sure | 17:04 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step | 17:05 |
| wmarone_ | hmm | 17:05 |
| wmarone_ | the kernel step may be a... lot... messy | 17:05 |
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| wmarone_ | I'll give the steps a shot tonight | 17:07 |
| lbt | wmarone_: do you have a git tree? | 17:07 |
| wmarone_ | I do, which is where I could see it working | 17:07 |
| wmarone_ | cause I can use the Git method | 17:07 |
| lbt | the git2tarball is fairly simple | 17:07 |
| wmarone_ | yeah | 17:07 |
| wmarone_ | is there a way to do a uImage build? | 17:07 |
| lbt | yes | 17:08 |
| wmarone_ | ok | 17:08 |
| wmarone_ | ok, so kernel package, bootloader package, and .ks | 17:09 |
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| lbt | yep | 17:09 |
| lbt | X.... is interesting | 17:09 |
| lbt | bbias | 17:09 |
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| Stskeeps | wmarone_: well, i think a fairly strong hint is that if you run from top to bottom and left to right, the ratios are wrong | 17:18 |
| wmarone_ | right | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | so i think we're dealing with some kind of rotation issue | 17:19 |
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| wmarone_ | the xorg config does swap axes and invert one | 17:19 |
| wmarone_ | which I adapted from the notes verygreen posted on making it work in fedora | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 17:20 |
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| wmarone_ | heh | 17:21 |
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| Stskeeps | wmarone_: ok, are you able to build a kernel for me? | 17:59 |
| wmarone_ | sure | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | https://github.com/dalingrin/nook_kernel/blob/encore-32/drivers/input/touchscreen/cyttsp-i2c.c#L2575 | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | switch x and y value around | 17:59 |
| wmarone_ | heh | 18:00 |
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| wmarone_ | isn't that the equivalent of SwapAxes in Xorg? | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | no, the values are 0..1024, 0..600 on the wrong scale | 18:01 |
| wmarone_ | hm | 18:01 |
| wmarone_ | http://side-7.us/files/mer/uImage | 18:04 |
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| Stskeeps | wmarone_: what board file is supposed to be the nook? | 18:25 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, hmm.. | 18:29 |
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| wmarone_ | evt1a | 18:31 |
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| wmarone_ | in board-evt-peripherals.c they define maxx = 480 and maxy = 800 | 18:35 |
| wmarone_ | though it should be overriden elsewhere | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that's what is awkward | 18:37 |
| wmarone_ | though I suppose those values do line up with the behavior | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so the screen is 1024x600, right? | 18:39 |
| wmarone_ | yes | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | so you have the values say maxx=600, maxy=600 at the moment by accident? | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | in the new uimage | 18:41 |
| wmarone_ | not anywhere intentionally | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | could you check and if not, revert back to the previous setup? | 18:41 |
| wmarone_ | the kernel I gave you was the first change I've done to the driver | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | i found a way to dump the touchscreen driver debug, so | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | hmm,sec | 18:42 |
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| Stskeeps | wmarone_: around still? | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: revert to what's in https://github.com/dalingrin/nook_kernel/blob/encore-32/drivers/input/touchscreen/cyttsp-i2c.c#L2575 , then go into https://github.com/dalingrin/nook_kernel/blob/encore-32/arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-evt-peripherals.c#L99 and set flags to REVERSE_X_FLAG | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | actually, i can do that myself.. | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 19:06 |
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| Stskeeps | uhh.. | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | "Clearing data..." | 19:42 |
| * Stskeeps glares | 19:43 | |
| phaeron | doesn't sound good | 19:43 |
| Stskeeps | well, good thing i didn't have any paid books on there | 19:43 |
| phaeron | :D | 19:44 |
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| Stskeeps | yup, all books gone | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | woops | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:49 |
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| Stskeeps | wmarone_: success | 19:54 |
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| wmarone_ | Stskeeps: \o/ | 20:02 |
| wmarone_ | huh | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/fix-touchscreen.patch.txt | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: remove the Invert/Swap stuff from xorg conf | 20:04 |
| wmarone_ | ok | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | gives me two-finger touch at least, i'm not sure the screen handles more | 20:06 |
| wmarone_ | I think the chip supposedly supports 5, don't know if the driver supports more | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: either way, this cost me a total wipe of the nook | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | it went into factory reset :) | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | works fine though | 20:08 |
| wmarone_ | how? | 20:08 |
| wmarone_ | o_O | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | i have no idea | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | it started showing "clearing data" | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:08 |
| wmarone_ | yikes | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | can't wait to get proper mer on it | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:08 |
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| Stskeeps | now, how the heck do we get wifi on this thing.. | 20:08 |
| wmarone_ | I think the only thing missing for wifi is the firmware | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | btw, remove CONFIG_PARANOID_ANDROID | 20:12 |
| wmarone_ | I thought I did | 20:12 |
| wmarone_ | I'll check again | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | i'm getting ping permission denied on my conf, at least | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | may not be same as your most recent one | 20:13 |
| dm8tbr | that paranoid network thing is 'special'... :/ | 20:13 |
| dm8tbr | people used to gnu user land especially keep running into it | 20:13 |
| wmarone_ | now paranoid network is active | 20:14 |
| wmarone_ | I'll nick that one | 20:14 |
| dm8tbr | workaround is to add your user to groups 3000-3005 or so | 20:15 |
| wmarone_ | I'll opt for eliminating android-isms where I can | 20:15 |
| dm8tbr | *nod* | 20:18 |
| lbt | is your .config casually available wmarone_ ? | 20:21 |
| wmarone_ | yeah let me make sure the latest is up | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i think you missed superccxin's point on the mailing list, he was talking about host | 20:21 |
| lbt | I did | 20:22 |
| dm8tbr | usb host? omap3? | 20:22 |
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| lbt | so much for my new-year resolution of not spending too long composing emails | 20:22 |
| wmarone_ | https://www.gitorious.org/mer-nook-compat | 20:23 |
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| lbt | ta | 20:23 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Spectacle#Namespace_support_for_multi-architecture_in_several_keywords | 20:23 |
| lbt | gah ... not Sources: | 20:23 |
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| wmarone_ | most current config is "usb_ethernet.config" | 20:24 |
| lbt | wmarone_: I just want something to build the sample HA for arm | 20:24 |
| wmarone_ | then it -might- work, but I' | 20:25 |
| wmarone_ | I'm certain it won't boot | 20:25 |
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| wmarone_ | Stskeeps: fb performance is good enough? | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | mouse cursor is a bit in the way, but then again my setup is experimental | 20:26 |
| wmarone_ | yup | 20:26 |
| wmarone_ | I'll re-disable the cursor after I get a DE or something going | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:27 |
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| Stskeeps | would probably work better with gles :) | 20:33 |
| wmarone_ | yup | 20:35 |
| wmarone_ | I think first is wifi | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | connman-tests | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | still, 199$ nice Mer-capable tablet, not bad | 20:36 |
| wmarone_ | where is the ti firmware package available? I recall seeing it included in the N900/N950 adaptations | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | what chipset? and don't rely on it matching | 20:37 |
| wmarone_ | wl1271 series | 20:37 |
| harbaum_ | wmarone_: How did you enable the cursor? The beagle setup has a need for that | 20:37 |
| wmarone_ | harbaum_: disable the "xopts=-nocursor" line in /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch | 20:38 |
| harbaum_ | Uhm... ok, so trivial .... thx :-) | 20:38 |
| harbaum_ | I think i'd like to write a script that does that on bootup depending on the presence of a mouse ... | 20:39 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: https://gforge.ti.com/gf/project/wilink_drivers/frs/?action=FrsReleaseBrowse&frs_package_id=95 possibly | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: or steal it from the nook android install? | 20:41 |
| wmarone_ | hm | 20:41 |
| wmarone_ | either way really. I'll need to make a package out of it | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:41 |
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| Stskeeps | wmarone_: either way, wifi, and then trying to get GLES up and running with whatever is latest possible beagleboard SGX drivers | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | then you already have something quite nice :P | 20:51 |
| wmarone_ | yup | 20:51 |
| lbt | hmm the HA kernel pkg needs to allow depmod in mic | 20:52 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: honestly? it should depmod in %post | 20:52 |
| Stskeeps | depmod <kernel version> | 20:52 |
| lbt | yes... normally depmod runs w/o version :) | 20:53 |
| Stskeeps | right | 20:53 |
| lbt | back to that slightly ugly kernel version macro | 20:53 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3239319 any thoughts on a better approach? | 20:54 |
| Stskeeps | uhh..? | 20:54 |
| Stskeeps | what is that supposed to do? | 20:54 |
| lbt | rpm.define("installed_kernel_version "..f) ... take a wild guess :P | 20:55 |
| Stskeeps | in what context | 20:55 |
| lbt | .spec file for a module | 20:55 |
| dm8tbr | btw: any of our HAs use >=2.6.39? there was a ugly local sploit recently | 20:56 |
| lbt | 3.1.6 ? | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: rpm -q --queryformat '%{version}' kernel-devel-package, if the /lib/<version> matches that? | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 20:57 |
| phaeron | yeah I saw the article on the explot | 20:57 |
| phaeron | *exploit | 20:57 |
| phaeron | scary stuff | 20:57 |
| phaeron | did you see the xscreensaver one ? | 20:58 |
| * Stskeeps calls it a day | 20:59 | |
| Stskeeps | night | 20:59 |
| lbt | it does | 20:59 |
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| phaeron | can you use rpm -q inside the spec %post ? I don't think so | 21:04 |
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| lbt | mmm .... last call for T-shirts... | 21:07 |
| timoph | o/ | 21:10 |
| * timoph wants one | 21:10 | |
| lbt | http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00126.html | 21:10 |
| timoph | forgot to send the mail.. | 21:10 |
| lbt | http://www.vistaprint.co.uk/vp/ns/livepreview.aspx?doc_id=1423520544&shopper_id=S0I0E7L1555V7ZNFGDN43FS76E67PNDT&width=400 | 21:10 |
| lbt | drop Denise an email and it'll go on the list | 21:10 |
| lbt | I should have done a reminder today :) | 21:11 |
| timoph | :( | 21:16 |
| timoph | err. :) | 21:16 |
| timoph | mail sent | 21:16 |
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| lbt | ok - on the list | 21:20 |
| harbaum_ | wmarone_: i have the ti sgx for beagle packaged in the repository | 21:20 |
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| wmarone_ | harbaum_: great! | 21:32 |
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| harbaum_ | wmarone_: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/harbaum:/ti-omap3-gfx-sgx/Mer_Core_armv7l/ | 21:34 |
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| * lbt wonders why mer-minimal-xorg doesn't install an X server... | 22:07 | |
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| Sage | lbt: because package group says e.g., xorg-x11-xserver or what ever and then that package is installed. And if user's driver would need xserver-setuid that would conflict | 22:22 |
| Sage | lbt: package group dep doesn't look provides fields it seems | 22:22 |
| Sage | it requires the explicit package | 22:22 |
| lbt | hmm | 22:27 |
| lbt | the images I built over the weekend used a .ks w/o xorg-x11-server ... but it got pulled in | 22:28 |
| lbt | that was 0.20120105.1 | 22:28 |
| lbt | but... I added it to my .ks manually | 22:29 |
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| lbt | ah... so the X driver should depend on it... emgd-xorg | 22:30 |
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| Venemo | could someone please explain to me what sreadahead does? | 22:41 |
| lbt | https://lwn.net/Articles/316861/ | 22:43 |
| Venemo | thanks | 22:44 |
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| Venemo | aww, so this is why it boots so fast! | 22:51 |
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| lbt | to be clear Sage "your gfx-card X driver should depend on xorg-x11-server-Xorg" (not xorg-x11-server ... oh no... that's too obvious, that's just an empy package to confuse you :) ) | 23:00 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, the Python parallel build patch commited, http://review.merproject.org/#change,334 | 23:09 |
| lbt | vgrade: the bug should be BMO# in the changes | 23:10 |
| lbt | and ... | 23:10 |
| lbt | I have a joggler .ks :) | 23:10 |
| lbt | 3.1.6 ... latest Mer build and emgd 110 | 23:11 |
| lbt | mic -> raw image -> dd to a stick -> plugin and boot | 23:11 |
| lbt | and it's all properly packaged too | 23:12 |
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| phaeron | the end of poulsbo | 23:24 |
| lbt | good | 23:24 |
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| vgrade | lbt, missed the BMO instruction | 23:28 |
| vgrade | checks the wiki | 23:28 |
| lbt | I doubt it's clear | 23:28 |
| lbt | I just noticed it | 23:28 |
| vgrade | http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Contribution not in here | 23:29 |
| lbt | http://wiki.meego.com/Packaging/Guidelines#Bug_Numbers_in_the_change_log | 23:29 |
| vgrade | lbt, good news on the joggler, what was the issue with the xorg.conf | 23:30 |
| lbt | I suspect it was all just module related | 23:30 |
| lbt | I'd booted and run depmod | 23:30 |
| lbt | so it could install emgd_drm | 23:30 |
| lbt | but i2c (or something) wasn't there | 23:31 |
| vgrade | I have the bug number in the changes | 23:31 |
| lbt | I know - it's not a major issue :P | 23:31 |
| lbt | I've been lax in moving that page over | 23:31 |
| lbt | but we have a way forward on version # now | 23:32 |
| lbt | and it all goes to changelog checking | 23:32 |
| lbt | I personally would like every change to have a BMO# | 23:32 |
| lbt | but .... | 23:32 |
| vgrade | so what do I need BMC or BMO? Link is good also for people to click | 23:32 |
| lbt | I may get shot | 23:32 |
| lbt | BMO is Mer | 23:33 |
| lbt | BMC is dead | 23:33 |
| vgrade | I'll add a BMO number | 23:35 |
| lbt | I'm rather hoping to get changelog extraction to a web view | 23:35 |
| lbt | and that will auto-link BMO#XXX | 23:36 |
| lbt | we need a package DB system | 23:36 |
| lbt | BTW the emgd packaging comes directly from the Intel tarball | 23:36 |
| vgrade | so I need BME34 or BMER034? | 23:36 |
| lbt | ? | 23:37 |
| lbt | "BMO#34" | 23:37 |
| vgrade | nice job on the emgd packaging, how are you bringing in the EFI stuff? | 23:38 |
| lbt | currently I upload a grub.efi | 23:38 |
| lbt | I'm planning to discard it after the link you showed me | 23:38 |
| lbt | and do plain kernel.efi | 23:38 |
| vgrade | ok, lets have a look | 23:39 |
| lbt | copypac'ing now | 23:39 |
| lbt | home:lbt:Mer:Joggler:HA | 23:40 |
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| vgrade | now I've never seen a kickstart file on OBS before | 23:51 |
| lbt | keep it together... | 23:52 |
| lbt | it'll be a while | 23:52 |
| lbt | my link is slow and I redistribute the huge EMGD tarball (which I'm 99% sure is OK) and of course a kernel tarball | 23:53 |
| lbt | the ks is of course untested :) | 23:53 |
| lbt | but it should be the right url | 23:53 |
| lbt | ok bootloader and emgd and emgd_drm are up http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/lbt:/Mer:/Joggler:/HA/Mer_Core_i586/i586/ | 23:54 |
| lbt | oh shite | 23:55 |
| lbt | I have 3 kernel tarballs :D :D :D | 23:55 |
| vgrade | I have an email from intel re redistribution of EMGD from ages ago, sec | 23:56 |
| lbt | bbiam | 23:57 |
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