Sunday, 2012-01-22

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sonachSorry for the above mistype:(02:27
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ali1234Stskeeps: "there is some difficulty into dividing into / /usr /var etc with systemd" - that got my attention for some reason. do you have a link to more information about that? some mailing list discussion maybe, or bug reports?04:01
sonachali1234: hello. I think Stskeeps does not wake up at this moment:)04:09
ali1234i know but he'll see it tomorrow :)04:09
ali1234or if not i'll just reply to the email04:09
ali1234"systemd separate partitions" search on google has a DMCA takedown from microsoft04:13
ali1234so it's not systemd that has a problem... it's everything else basically04:17
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Cenobyte_Hello is anyone here?05:30
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sonachStskeeps: I rebuilt kernel, copy lib/modules/* to my mer-rootfs, make jffs2 again, burn both kernel and rootfs to flash. Still get some errors,06:10
sonachStskeeps: Failed to open /dev/kmsg for logging: No such file or directory06:10
sonachStskeeps: Failed to mount /dev: No such device06:10
sonachStskeeps:In linux-2.6.35_src/.config, I modified "# CONFIG_DEVTMPFS is not set" to "CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y". But I cannot find "CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT is not set", so I added one line "CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y"06:10
sonachStskeeps: Other options is in accordance with
sonachStskeeps: the whole boot console output is Thank you very much:)06:11
Stskeepssonach: hmmm06:44
Stskeepssonach: can you run make oldconfig and then grep CONFIG_DEVTMPFS .config?06:44
Stskeepssonach: it might be that you need to make clean, all06:46
Stskeepsit certainly doesn't look like the option got activated, so06:48
Stskeepssonach: after doing make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=your-cross-compiler oldconfig, can you show me your .config?06:55
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Stskeepswb sonac1, did you see what i wrote?07:00
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sonac1no,i am outside now,using phone to irc07:02
Stskeepsah ok07:02
Stskeepsi just said that you may need to do make oldconfig clean all -- and then grep CONFIG_DEVTMPFS .config07:02
Stskeepsand i'd like to see the .config as well07:02
Stskeepswith oldconfig you can see if it accepts the option or not07:03
sonac1i will go home ASAP:)07:04
Stskeepshehe, no rush, i'm around most of today :)07:04
sonac1ok,it's slow to type with phone...07:07
Stskeepsvgrade: did we ever integrate that python patch?07:08
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TomaszD if anyone wants a cheap a2dp speaker from uk08:00
TomaszDShame they dont ship elsewhere08:00
Stskeepsmy car is an a2dp speaker, is quite nice08:04
TomaszDI have no real use for this, but it's very cheap08:05
Stskeepsuse as a positioning point for bluetooth positioning..08:05
Stskeepsa couple of those and you should have fairly good density08:06
TomaszDOn a horizontal plane though08:07
TomaszDBtw using ics on hp touchpad atm :-)08:08
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vgradeStskeeps, sill on the list. I saw the 2.7 commit so priority lowered. Can look later08:29
Stskeepsi just saw the failure for first time in a while so had to ask :)08:30
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sonachStskeeps: hello,09:44
Stskeepshello :)09:45
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sonachStskeeps: After doing "make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-hisiv200-linux- oldconfig". How to show you .config?09:47
Stskeepssonach: hmm, i guess you can send the file to me in an email09:47
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Stskeepshmm, that looks correct09:51
Stskeepsand now make the kernel and flash it?09:51
sonachStskeeps: It seems that the "make oldconfig" doesn't take effect.... the "CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y" line was added by me on hand...09:51
sonachStskeeps: should I do "make clean" or other?09:51
Stskeepsmake clean and then make the kernel, yes09:52
Stskeepsthe configuration looks fine09:52
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sonach_Stskeeps: Making progress! now the current state is:
sonach_Stskeeps: Mer is booted,but some errors occur,10:06
Stskeepsyes indeed :)10:06
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sonach_Stskeeps: Now it comes to the realm of Mer, I don't quite understand the errors... :)10:07
Stskeepsyour console is called ttyAMA0?10:07
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sonach_How to confirm this?10:08
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Stskeepscmdline=mem=96M console=ttyAMA0,115200 root=/dev/mtdblock9 rootfstype=jffs2 mtdparts=hinand:1M(fastboot),1M(stbid),1M(loaderdb),1M(b10:08
Stskeepsakloaderdb),5M(mainloader),5M(bakloader),1M(logo),1M(logo1),5M(kernel),58M(rootfs),3M(apparam1),3M(apparam2),8M(ui),35M(app),-(other) mmz=ddr,0,0x8600010:08
Stskeepsso yes10:08
sonachCONFIG_CMDLINE="mem=128M console=ttyAMA0,115200 console=ttyMTD,blackbox"10:09
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Stskeepsok, go into where you have your root file system on your pc10:09
Stskeepsand do ln -s ../serial-getty@.service ./lib/systemd/system/
Stskeepsso your file system will contain /lib/systemd/system/
Stskeepsin addition to that, add 'ttyAMA0' to /etc/securetty in the file system10:11
Stskeepsand then do mkfs.jffs2 again10:11
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Stskeepsalso, congratulations, your first mer bootup :)10:13
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sonachStskeeps: ln -s ../serial-getty@service xxx?  but there is no target of ../serial-getty@service...10:14
* phaeron notes systemd should start the rescue shell at that point instead of haning10:14
Stskeepssonach: yes, that's ok10:15
Stskeepssonach: just be sure to be in the directory of the mer root file system10:16
Stskeepsand then ls -l ./lib/systemd/system/ afterwards10:16
Stskeepsphaeron: there's technically nothing wrong there10:16
Stskeepssonach: i just added to systemd, so in next Mer core version, you can just add systemd-console-ttyAMA0 to your %packages in .ks, so it's easier10:18
sonachStskeeps: good:)10:19
Stskeepsi think people using st-ericsson boards need ttyAMA0 too, so10:19
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Stskeeps12s bootup isn't half bad10:27
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sonachStskeeps: Successfully boot to Mer!!10:36
Stskeepssonach: you got a login prompt?10:37
sonachStskeeps: of course:) and I login into it.10:37
Stskeepscongratulations :)10:37
sonachStskeeps: Thank you for you BIG help!  After that, I should test X11. Is that right? At the end, I must run XBMC or QtMediaHub or something alike.10:39
Stskeepssonach: do you have a framebuffer on it? /dev/fb0 that is10:39
Stskeepssonach: if so, try to make a file system alike this one:
sonachStskeeps: no /dev/fb0... Why?10:41
Stskeepssonach: no framebuffer? hmm10:41
sonachStskeeps: yes, maybe I should install correspond driver?10:42
Stskeepsyes, perhaps10:42
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Stskeepselse we can't really draw to the screen ;)10:42
Stskeepsin the %post section of that .ks, we're missing the following:10:43
Stskeepsthen qmlviewer should start up automatically, a nice test case10:43
Stskeepsbut first get framebuffer working10:43
sonachStskeeps: OK. I think the drivers of hi3716m don't work at this moment. So I have to make  the drivers work.10:44
Stskeepsit is probably hifb.ko ?10:46
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sonachStskeeps: You are exactly right!! it is hifb.ko:)10:58
Stskeepssonach: one of the positive things about chinese manuals is that you don't use chinese characters for command lines and filenames ;)10:59
sonachStskeeps: How do you know this?10:59
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Stskeepssonach: i looked up some manuals on the net about hisilicon hardware and guessed :)10:59
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Stskeepsremember, my main job has been hardware adaptation for the last 2-3 years11:00
sonachStskeeps: cool:) Thank you for your instruction!11:00
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Stskeepsmorn smoku11:07
Stskeepssonach: can you run 'free -m' on your board?11:07
smokuhi Stskeeps11:07
Stskeepsi'm curious to see how much ram is in use11:07
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lbtsonach: congrats :)11:19
lbtand morning all11:20
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phaeronis mer core rebuilding again ?11:21
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Stskeepsshouldn't be11:24
Stskeepsmorn lbt11:25
phaeronan i586 package I have is blocked11:25
Stskeepslooks quite idle11:26
phaeronpackages in blocked queue for i58611:26
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Stskeepsdoesn't look righ11:32
Stskeepsi did a messup with the imported release, maybe it got stuck?11:32
Stskeepson i586 specifically11:33
phaeronI'll trigger a deep check11:33
phaeronnothing ..11:48
Stskeepslemme check fobs11:49
Stskeepswell, something is still querying it at least11:50
phaeronI think fakeobs is sending wrong state11:51
Stskeepswell, it won't be sending 'blocked', for sure..11:51
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Stskeepsi can do a updates storm if you want, that should help shake the three11:52
sonachlbt: thanks for your help:)11:53
Stskeepsstorm started11:53
sonachStskeeps: is the result of "free -m"11:53
Stskeepssonach: ok, so not that bad11:54
sonachStskeeps: So it is not that good?11:54
Stskeepssonach: 16mb used11:54
Stskeepssonach: it might be possible to get further down11:55
sonachStskeeps: It is nice:)11:56
phaeronStskeeps: no effect11:56
Stskeepsphaeron: it takes time11:56
phaeronStskeeps: core-next i586 is not blocked , while core i586 is still blocked (watching the storm in the backend)11:59
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sonachStskeeps: A trivial question. How do you know from error message that ttyAMA0 is the cause?12:13
Stskeepssonach: there wasn't any login prompt so a wild guess is that the 'getty' program wasn't running on it12:14
sonachbut there was no "ttyAMA0" hint, just "Failed to open /sys/class/tty/tty0/active". How do you know it is ttyAMA0:12:15
Stskeepssonach: experience -- i had seen the kernel command line earlier and it said your console is ttyAMA012:15
Stskeepsand experience tells me that if there's no login program running on console, we're missing the service for it12:15
sonachStskeeps: I agree, experience is the most important thing:)12:18
Stskeepsand sometimes silence from a computer tells a lot :)12:19
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seph143can i ask some question?12:23
Stskeepsof course :)12:23
seph143is the Nemo version for n900 is already supported telephone functionality? like sms and calls. thanks for the reply :D12:25
Stskeepsbest to ask in #nemomobile but yes, calls and sms works12:25
seph143i just need to read the change log first :D brb, and i will try to ask if i can't understand some of them :D12:26
phaeronStskeeps: now what :)12:29
Stskeepsphaeron: hm?12:30
phaeronis there a caching proxy in the middle or something12:30
Stskeepsnot afaik12:30
Stskeepsi'll restart fakeobs?12:30
seph143can i used 8gb memory card instead of 4gb?12:31
Stskeepsseph143: yes12:31
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phaerontriggered deep check again12:33
seph143where can i download nemo imge file for n900? thanks again for the reply12:33
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seph143@Stskeeps is it here?
* phaeron scratches head12:35
Stskeepsseph143: right12:35
phaeronmaybe remote cache is corrupted ..12:35
seph143thanks i just download "nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-testing/"? for n900? thanks again for the rep.12:36
seph143@sir Stskeeps i need to download it form manifest up to vmlinuz-2.6.37-8.3.Nemo.Adaptation.N900-adaptation-n900?12:37
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Stskeepsseph143: the instructions are pretty clear :)12:39
Stskeepsi have to go for this afternoon, bbl12:39
Stskeepsseph143: please ask additional questions in #nemomobile12:39
seph143@Sir Stskeeps thanks for the reply hehehe :D i'm just getting excited :D :D12:41
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sonachStskeeps: Copy ko files(such as hifb.ko) to mer's rootfs, login into Mer, insmod these ko files. After that I can see /dev/fb0.13:38
sonachStskeeps: How to  load this ko files automatically when booting Mer, such as /etc/init.d/S90Modules of sysvinit?13:40
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phaeronlbt: ping13:53
lbtphaeron: pong13:54
phaeronI think the remotecache in cobs is corrupted13:54
lbtsonach: we have /etc/modprobe.d/ which I think is working13:54
lbtphaeron: mmm13:55
lbtis this because rpms have the same version/build # but different content?13:55
phaeronfor mer fakeobs i586 specifically13:56
phaeronno check
phaeronlook at state of i58613:56
phaeronStskeeps restarted fakeobs , so I don't think the problem is on his side13:56
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phaerona deep check on it doesn't help either13:57
lbtlooking at the logs13:58
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sonachlbt: I will try it:)14:04
lbtsonach: if it doesn't work let me know14:04
sonachlbt: ok!14:04
sonachlbt: how to work with /etc/modprobe.d? add "insmod xxx.ko" into one of the conf file?14:06
lbtsonach: the format is "install xxx"14:07
sonachlbt: for example, something like "install hifb.ko" is OK?14:09
lbtyes (I think so)14:09
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sonachor "install hifb /sbin/modprobe"?14:10
sonachAnyway, I will try it later.14:11
lbtsonach: I need to check on that14:12
sonachlbt: one more question. In "", there are armv7hl and armv7l DIR; and in "", there are also armv7hl and armv7l. what's the difference?14:13
sonachlbt: What bothers me is that the directory structure is very strange...14:14
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sonachlbt: "builds/armv7l/packages/armv7hl"  and "builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7l"are  very strange....14:15
lbtsonach: there's some info at the bottom of this page:
sonachlbt: I mean, the directory structure is very strange. Not what "h" or "l" means,14:16
lbtah, I see14:17
lbt(I know our naming conventions sometimes need explaining)14:17
sonachlbt: ignore this:)  What arch do you suggest, armv7hl or armv7l for my platform?14:18
sonachlbt: "uname -a" of my platform is "Linux localhost.localdomain #3 Sun Jan 22 18:00:19 CST 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux"14:19
sonachlbt: Does this mean that armv7l is suitable?14:19
lbtyes, that should work14:20
lbtI thought you'd already built a working rootfs?14:21
sonachlbt: hmm, I have built a working rootfs with mer-core-armv7l-base.ks. Now I am going to build one with mer-core-armv7l-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks.14:23
lbtOK - so I don't know exactly what HW you have - but if the armv7l worked then continue to use it for now14:24
lbtit may be worth checking later to see what the pros/cons are of switching14:24
lbtI think the main issue will be if you're provided with pre-built binaries that need a certain ABI14:25
lbtoh, I was wrong about auto module load... you need to mkdir /etc/modules-load.d; echo hifb > /etc/modules-load.d/hifb.conf14:26
lbtsystemd is quite new so some of these things are not as well documented as they could be14:27
sonachlbt: I understand the issus of pre-built binaries of a certain ABI:)14:27
lbtsonach: sorry :)14:28
lbtphaeron: gimme a sec to get this module build going .... and what's the backend actually stuck on?14:29
sonachlbt: I don't understand "echo hifb > /etc/modules-load.d/hifb.conf"...14:30
lbtdamn ... ^D out of a chroot - when I wasn't in it ...14:30
phaeronnothing is stuck. it's waiting for fakeobs to finish building stuff , when there is nothing actually building there14:30
lbtsonach: systemd looks at .conf files in that directory and the format is the plain module name14:30
phaeronso all the stuff that builds against mer core in fakeobs is waiting in blocked state14:31
lbtsonach: I don't think the actual filename matters14:31
lbtphaeron: and Stskeeps restarted fakeobs14:31
sonachlbt: so I create /etc/modules-load.d/load.conf. and put all ko file names in the load.conf. Is that right?14:32
lbtthat would be fine too14:32
lbtbe aware that that is systemd driven14:32
lbtso it will only happen when rootfs is up14:32
sonachlbt: thank you! I will try this. Maybe I read some docs on systemd...14:32
lbtI mean it's obvious but worth mentioning14:33
sonachI should read some docs about systemd in order to understand Mer well...14:33
lbtyes, the main docs are here
lbtbut I'll be writing a summary of systemd in Mer 'soon' :)14:34
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lbtyay ... kernel-devel packaging works14:38
sonachlbt: thanks for your work:)14:39
sonachlbt: Error: failed to create image : Failed to find package 'xorg-x11-drv-kbd' : No package(s) available to install14:39
Stskeepsremove that line, may be mistake from my part14:39
Stskeepsfbdev and evdev is what matters14:39
lbtsonach: np - and you can tell I'm not the ARM expert :)14:40
sonachStskeeps: I already removes that and now it is progressing14:41
sonachlbt: you are doing more job on X86?14:44
lbtsonach: I am - but mainly I do systems and process work14:45
sonachStskeeps: Now what I am concerning is, how big the jffs2 file will be for mer-core-xorg-basis...14:45
lbtsonach: making sure we can scale to multiple development teams14:46
Stskeepssonach: we'll see14:46
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Stskeepssonach: there is many ways to slice footprint14:46
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sonachStskeeps: OK. let's see the result first:)14:47
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sonachlbt: what do you mean by "scale to multiple development teams"?14:47
lbtsonach: I used to work for Nokia - so they'd have many many people writing code for a device; all spread into different teams... that needs QA testing and integrating14:48
lbtso we need automation systems to run QA checks for all our changes14:48
lbtalso, when Mer changes, vendors like you need to run QA to make sure nothing breaks14:49
lbtso we have tools and systems for that14:49
lbtwhich isn't important on day 1 when you boot the prototype14:49
lbtbut is *very* important when you need to finalise code to ship a device14:49
Stskeepsensuring quality :)14:50
lbtalways :D14:50
sonachlbt: Ok, I see:)14:51
lbtsonach: yep - hopefully it's good for you to know that these things will be there later on when you need them14:52
sonachlbt: Are these things there already?14:53
lbtStskeeps: forcing a cold scan of OBS scheduler - phaeron's idea14:53
lbtsonach: yes14:53
phaeron*cold start14:53
phaeronof i586 scheduler only14:54
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lbtsonach: let me know if you need to discuss them. Mer already uses some of this for it's own QA. The Nemo project also uses it to run checks.14:55
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lbtfirst I guess you need to make the prototype work :)14:55
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phaeronlbt: it's done and still everything is blocked ..15:06
Stskeepswhat does it block on?15:06
phaeronStskeeps: everything15:07
lbt"nothing provides"15:07
Stskeepson the go atm, can't see15:07
phaeronStskeeps: for example glew in CE:Utils is blocked on libXi-devel, libX11-devel, libXmu-devel, libXext-devel, libXi, xorg-x11-proto-inputproto, libX11, libxcb-devel, libXt-devel, libXmu, libXext, libxcb, libXfixes-devel, libXdamage-devel, libXxf86vm-devel, libXt, libXfixes, libXdamage, libXxf86vm15:08
phaeronStskeeps: wget in CE:Utils is blocked on openssl-devel, openssl15:09
lbtalso nohup.out is 1.6Gb ...15:09
lbtsorry, a mere 1.3Gb15:09
phaeronthat's for fakeobs, right ?15:09
* phaeron sips some more coffee15:09
Stskeepswhy does it think it's blocked?15:10
Stskeepsi didn't even know obs could do that over the wire15:10
phaeronit knows when stuff is rebuilding15:10
phaerontrying something on the source server15:11
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phaeronI can see the blocked stuff in the cached state in the srcserver15:16
phaerontrying to get a non cache ..15:16
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lbthow nice, spectacle erases %post scripts and doesn't seem to have a keyword for them15:23
phaeronthere's a "no touch" part afair15:24
lbtI really hate doing half in yaml and half in spec15:25
lbtand not knowing if your edits will be erased15:26
lbtso you have to keep backups15:26
lbtand then finding a hoop to jump through15:26
lbtand the docs are about as sane as running "strings" on an exe15:26
lbt-> coffee15:27
sonachlbt: If I "echo hifb.ko > /etc/moduls-load.d/load.conf", Where should I put hifo.ko to ?15:27
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sonachlbt: put *.ko to /etc/modules-load.d/ ?15:28
Stskeepssonach: /lib/modules/kernelversion/ and depmod -a15:29
Stskeepsok, battery running out, so i got to go. sonach: have a happy chinese new year :)15:30
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sonachStskeeps: thank you!15:31
sonachStskeeps: what do you mean "/lib/modules/kernelversion/ and depmod -a". kernelversion is 2.6.3515:32
sonachStskeeps: Don't have power adapter with you?15:33
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sonachAC adaptor15:33
phaeronsonach: he's not at home :)15:33
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phaeronsonach: when you install modules from a kernel build they go to a directory /lib/modules/<kernel_version>/something/something15:34
phaeronso in your case /lib/modules/2.6.35/video/hifb.ko15:34
sonachphaeron: ok. I already copy something to /lib/modules,15:34
phaeronif you do that manually then you run depmod -a so that modprobe knows about this new module15:35
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sonachphaeron: On my vendor's rootfs, a bundle of ko files are provided seperately from /lib/modules/xxx. I should insmod the ko files manually15:36
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sonachphaeron: So i just copy /kmod(which holds a lot of ko files) to my Mer rootfs. After I have logined into Mer, I install ko files under /kmod manually. And it works.15:37
phaeroninsmod inserts a single module file15:37
sonachphaeron: for example, after doing "insmod /kmod/hifb.ko", /etc/fb0 will come out.15:37
phaeronmodprobe works by dependencies15:38
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phaeronso if your hifb module depends on fb module it will insert that first15:38
sonachbut how does the system find the ko files when they lives in /kmod directory?15:38
phaeronmodprobe will not find them if they are not in the correct place and depmod knows about them15:39
phaeronotherwise you need to use insmod like you said15:39
phaeronso instead of putting them in /kmod put them inside the modules directory and run depmod a15:39
phaerondepmod -a15:40
sonachphaeron: I don't quite catch what you said.15:45
sonachphaeron: I do "cp /kmod /lib/modules/linux-2.6.25/" and run "depmod -a". nothing changed for modules.dep15:46
phaeronmkdir /lib/modules/linux-2.6.25/kernel/hifb/15:47
phaeroncp /kmod/* /lib/modules/linux-2.6.25/kernel/hifb/15:47
phaerondepmod -a15:47
phaerondoes that work ?15:47
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sonachphaeron: OK, It works! But now I was working in Mer. If I am on my host pc, how can I do this? ah, just add something like "kernel/hifb/hifb.ko" to modules.dep manually?15:50
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phaeronare those modules built from source ?15:54
phaeronif so then you need to write a spec file that builds them and installs them in the correct place15:55
phaeronif they are binaries only then you can write a spec file that just copies them in the right place15:55
phaeronthe depmod -a can be in a %post15:55
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phaeronlbt: there ?16:02
lbtphaeron: ?16:04
sonachphaeron: OK, I will write "depmod -a" in %post!16:05
sonachphaeron: thank you for your instructions:)16:05
phaeronno problem16:06
sonachAh, there are firecracker every place outside. Beijing Time is about 00:00, Chinese New Year arrives:)16:08
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phaeronStskeeps: there ?16:28
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phaeronStskeeps: its fakeobs's fault , the repository cache file in fakeobs contains the broken state. I don't know how you generate it , so I'll wait for you to come back and do so :)16:38
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Stskeepsphaeron: ah crap17:22
Stskeepsphaeron: will look in 30 mins17:23
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lbthmm uxlaunch problems17:40
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Stskeepsphaeron: i dump it from obs, not sure why it would think it's broken17:54
Stskeepsie blocked17:54
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Stskeepsphaeron: i'm switching repo to the 0.2 prerelease, which is equal to the final release18:02
Stskeepsbut exported at an earlier point18:02
* phaeron doesn't get it :D18:03
Stskeepsok, so, i did one export which became Core:i586:0.20120120.0.2, and another, which became .1 (final release)18:04
Stskeeps0.2 is what Core-next points to atm18:04
Stskeepsso i'm changing the binary repo of Core:i586 to the older 0.2 version18:05
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Stskeepsphaeron: let me know if this clears out the blokage18:08
phaeronooh yeah it's the attack of the builds18:08
phaeronanybody got a few spare workers18:10
phaeronStskeeps: did you look inside the file obs-repos/Core\:i586\:latest/Core_i586/i586/_repository\?view\=cache18:12
phaeronStskeeps: it had the blocked state18:12
Stskeepsno, it's a perl database18:12
Stskeepswhich i don't know how to read18:12
phaeronbut you can still see stuff inside with less18:13
phaeronor strings if you're picky :)18:13
phaeronyou probably got the repository state while things were rebuilding in your obs18:14
phaeronthat's the only explanation I can think of ..18:14
lbtStskeeps: fyi I ran  stskeeps@shell:~/release-tools$ make packages-git/mappingscache.xml18:15
lbton the grounds that it was already dead and that was in the docs18:15
lbt(where docs==history ... correct? :P )18:15
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phaeronsince you export static repos why not just use download on demand :D18:16
Stskeepsphaeron: yeah, though i'm fairly sure it was done18:19
Stskeepslbt: yeah, mappingscache.xml is just source18:19
Stskeepslbt: obs-repos/ is the binary reos18:19
Stskeepslbt: btw, did you document the 'autoloading modules' thing anywhere?18:19
Stskeepsthat's going to be a hot topic18:19
Stskeepsvgrade: nice18:20
lbtStskeeps: yes, in my HA notes18:20
lbtI'm doing a boot-process thing which goes into systemd18:20
lbtalso... uxlaunch sucks18:20
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phaeronlbt: why :)18:21
Stskeepslbt: why does it suck?18:21
phaeronI thought autoloading modules was best done by udev18:21
Stskeepsphaeron: only if it's in your board file in kernel18:22
Stskeepsphaeron: don't try to modprobe in a udev rule :)18:22
lbt'cos it doesn't tell me why it dies and I'm in a hurry to make tea :)18:22
Stskeepslbt: Xorg.0.log ?18:23
lbtFatal server error:18:24
lbt[  2971.131] AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 018:24
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Stskeepsok, 'mic' is kinda cool18:42
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Stskeepsevening Alastor8919:24
Alastor89good evening19:24
Alastor89i'm Alastor89 from TMO19:25
Stskeepshehe, welcome :)19:25
Alastor89i've some question19:25
Alastor89*I have19:25
Alastor89I want to start to develop some applications for n900 and n9, and I want to help the community, so can you give me some link or some books that I can read to start ?19:27
Stskeepsi'd recommend you to learn Qt/QML19:28
Stskeepsand helping n900/n9,
Alastor89thank you, i'll start to search some books in amazon ^_^19:29
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Stskeepsalso online tutorials19:34
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Alastor89yes, I've sew some example on nokia developer page19:39
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StskeepsMer booting to qmlviewer on MIPS, qemu system emulator,
smokuStskeeps: are there any fun MIPS based hardware?19:52
Stskeepssmoku: well, a large bunch of STBs i would presume19:52
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smokuSTBs are not fun ;-(19:53
Stskeepshehe ;)19:53
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smokubut I would switch our oe setup for mer in a heartbeat ;-)19:56
Stskeepsthis is even already cross compile activated19:57
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Stskeepsie, it builds almost as fast as arm20:00
smokubtw, should I use lbt's template packages to package my kernel?20:16
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Stskeepsyes, it's much better20:17
Stskeepsthough i dont think he has a arm variant yet20:17
smoku  :-)20:17
smokugobject-introspection builds fine for ARM :)20:17
smoku(yesterday it was 'failed')20:17
Stskeepsi didn't fix anything ;)20:18
smokudidn't you link new Mer release on COBS?20:18
Stskeepsyes, true20:18
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smokuso it fixed ARM build20:18
Stskeepsbut that didn't contain anything in compiler area, i think20:18
smokunew glib?20:18
Stskeepsexcept for gnu style hash20:18
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Stskeepsthe glibc changes -may- have helped a bit20:19
Stskeepswe did some patches to make sb2 work better20:19
smokuthe problem was in non-working ldd20:20
lbtsmoku: the same one builds for arm and x86
lbtthe only reason that fails is because the config produces firmware not listed in %files20:23
lbtlet me know if you use it though because I'm about to update the template to include some checking20:24
smokulbt: ok. thx20:25
smokuI will let you know20:25
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smokulbt: on COBS when I add project repositories via add_repository_from_default_list it adds Mer_Core_armv7hl () and Mer_Core_armv7l ()20:44
Stskeepsyeah, don't use the default list20:44
smokulbt: () as no builders defined. is it on purpose?20:44
Stskeepsit's buggy20:44
Stskeepsadd it using the stuff in topic20:44
lbtStskeeps: doesn't it just need the arches selecting ?20:44
smokuactually if I use it and then check Architectures: in "Edit repository" it seems to do the job20:45
Stskeepslbt: as in, it doesn't set the right <arch>20:45
lbtit hasn't annoyed me enough to look at it :)20:45
Stskeepsit's either all or none20:45
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lbtOBS limitation ?20:46
smokuso it's better to have none and then select the proper ones20:46
lbtI think that's what it does20:46
smokuif its a known issue I will shut up now :)20:47
lbtif you hit an issue it means there should be docs...20:48
smokulbt: copying your template gives me "nothing provides u-boot-omap4panda-tools" - known issue?20:48
lbtyes... you also need to read the instructions :)20:48
lbt"Both methods; build and/or hack on code"20:49
lbtthe yaml has a BR for a uboot bootloader20:49
lbtyou need a board/device specific uboot20:49
smokuand if I do not use uboot?20:56
lbtwhat device?20:56
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Stskeepslbt: you should only BR on u-boot tools, not uboot20:56
Stskeepslbt: it's the mkimage it relies on for uImage20:57
lbtessentially HA is not part of Mer - so it is whatever you want.....20:57
lbtStskeeps: yes, I'm pretty sure that's what's in the yaml20:57
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Stskeepsand that mkimage is not specific to a certain uboot :P20:57
lbtah, I think sage said it was ... good to know20:58
lbtor at least I asked in such a way that I misunderstood20:58
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phaeronsmoku: need help with that cordia stuff? I am toying with gnome3 on mer and think it has in common with Cordia21:02
lbtStskeeps:   AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 021:02
lbtany idea what that error means?21:03
smokuphaeron: let's move to #cordia please :)21:03
phaeronyet another #irc21:03
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smokulbt: so, should I pull u-boot-omap4panda-tools to my project, link any project or ?21:04
lbtif you need uboot - it will do the job21:04
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lbtand yes, you should have your own HA project21:04
Stskeepslbt: what do you have in your xorg.conf.d ?21:04
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lbtStskeeps: now I have
lbtI had it working to the same level with just the Device section21:05
Stskeepsdrop the evtouch21:06
* Stskeeps looks in his own notes21:06
lbt fyi21:08
StskeepsDefaultDepth is fairly essential, if i remember correctly21:08
lbtsame message21:09
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Stskeepswell, try to walk through my .ks's setup, it worked in old emgd at least21:10
* Stskeeps has to sleep21:10
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StskeepsDefaultDepth/Depth was pretty essential, so was evdev vs evtouch21:11
Stskeepsbut it's been ages since i played with the joggler last21:11
lbtthe thing is there are no warnings21:13
lbtit just has that one error21:13
lbtand even that is not (EE)21:13
lbtand I'm getting the screen flash21:13
smokulbt: so if I do not need uboot I can safely remove the dependency and all lines requiring it?21:17
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lbtand make sure you build the right kind of kernel21:17
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smokulbt: :/  the package just failed patching the kernel with patch 25 of 52 :/21:38
smokuas the patches are exported from git, I'm puzzled :/21:39
lbtdid you change the Version:21:39
smokuof course21:39
lbtis it on COBS ?21:40
smokunot yet. local build.21:40
lbtand are you using my script?21:40
smokutarball and patches exported by git2tarball.sh21:41
lbtany chance you have binary diff or possibly mv/renames?21:41
smokuin kernel git?21:42
smokuno idea :)21:42
smokujust cloned it21:42
lbtOK .. so why do you have 52 patches?21:42
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smokuthis tree has a lot of changes to vanilla kernel to make it work on the device21:43
smokuchanges ported from vendor's frankenkernel21:43
smokuI will try exporting the patches again21:44
lbttry removing the -M and -C options21:46
lbtin the script21:46
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lbtwhilst that's the normal format, it's less compatible21:47
smokuit did help. thanks :)21:50
lbtgood - I'll update the script21:50
smokulbt: as I understand this package uses fixed.config file. you do not plan to generate .config from common and hardware specific options like the meego n900 kernel package did?21:52
lbtinstead we have a config checker21:53
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lbtthat verifies and warns if you have missing/extra/wrong CONFIG_*21:53
smokuright. that's a better idea. :)21:54
smokuit's not there yet?21:54
lbtyes, it is21:54
lbtyou should find a BR on it21:55
smokuBR is commented-out21:55
lbtdid you copy the arm one?21:55
lbtno, you are correct21:56
smokui copied kernel-adaptation-sample21:56
smokuis there another one for ARM?21:56
lbtno :)21:56
lbtbut there's a joggler one21:56
lbtwhich I'm working on and then updating sample21:56
smokuwhich should I use then? :D21:56
lbtyou're using the right one21:57
lbtit's just not correct yet21:57
smokuBTW, I already love :)21:57
smokugood work21:57
lbtso PkgBR on mer-kernel-check21:58
lbtwhich you'll have to copypac for now21:59
lbtit will go into mer core next week21:59
smokuplease link in kernel-adaptation-sample.yaml header :)21:59
lbtyes, excellent idea21:59
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vgradelbt, good 2209 emgd log,
lbtvgrade: :)23:09
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vgradefrom a sony vaio. we used to be able to use same driver on joggler and vaio with just changes to res23:12
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vgradeport order 4200023:14
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lbtI just tried 420023:17
lbtno change23:17
lbtit's annoying because the emgd drm driver is in and working - but there's no clue why it just stops23:20
lbtthat hints at oom23:21
lbtit may just not work23:23
lbt"support for xorg 1.10 is experimental and from what I've seen it is crashy on my acer or doesn't work at all on other netbooks"23:23
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lbtexotica says it's working though23:28
lbt Kernel 3.1.6. Xserver 1.1023:29
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vgradeyes, they do report succes, wonder what their xorg.conf looks like23:37
lbtI'm running on though23:38
lbtto enable the emgd drm driver to build23:38
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vgradethat may be old as its dated march and 2209 is from nov23:39
lbtit's so easy I can prolly port it23:40
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lbtI recall the argument # mismatch when building last time23:41
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vgradei'd check the xorg.conf from an exotica image once you have those patches in place23:46
lbtwell bugger me... it built23:46
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lbtrpm -e kernel;rpm -i kernel; systemctl reboot .... that bit worked23:51
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lbtexactly the same error23:52
lbttar: command not found = sometimes a minimal OS is a PITA23:56
vgradewere those patches to the .ko source?23:57
smokuStskeeps: looks like Dawati is still GTK+ 2 based :(23:57
phaeronthere's a gtk3 branchj23:58
lbtvgrade: 3.1.6 will build the .ko for emgd_drm cleanly23:58
lbtso when I upgraded the HA kernel source in OBS to 3.1.6 ... they built :)23:58

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