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| sonach | Sorry for the above mistype:( | 02:27 |
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| ali1234 | Stskeeps: "there is some difficulty into dividing into / /usr /var etc with systemd" - that got my attention for some reason. do you have a link to more information about that? some mailing list discussion maybe, or bug reports? | 04:01 |
| sonach | ali1234: hello. I think Stskeeps does not wake up at this moment:) | 04:09 |
| ali1234 | i know but he'll see it tomorrow :) | 04:09 |
| ali1234 | or if not i'll just reply to the email | 04:09 |
| ali1234 | "systemd separate partitions" search on google has a DMCA takedown from microsoft | 04:13 |
| ali1234 | ah http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken | 04:15 |
| ali1234 | so it's not systemd that has a problem... it's everything else basically | 04:17 |
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| Cenobyte_ | Hello is anyone here? | 05:30 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I rebuilt kernel, copy lib/modules/* to my mer-rootfs, make jffs2 again, burn both kernel and rootfs to flash. Still get some errors, | 06:10 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Failed to open /dev/kmsg for logging: No such file or directory | 06:10 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Failed to mount /dev: No such device | 06:10 |
| sonach | Stskeeps:In linux-2.6.35_src/.config, I modified "# CONFIG_DEVTMPFS is not set" to "CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y". But I cannot find "CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT is not set", so I added one line "CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y" | 06:10 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Other options is in accordance with http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide#Kernel | 06:10 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: the whole boot console output is http://pastie.org/3228863 Thank you very much:) | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: hmmm | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: can you run make oldconfig and then grep CONFIG_DEVTMPFS .config? | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: it might be that you need to make clean, all | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | it certainly doesn't look like the option got activated, so | 06:48 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: after doing make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=your-cross-compiler oldconfig, can you show me your .config? | 06:55 |
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| Stskeeps | wb sonac1, did you see what i wrote? | 07:00 |
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| sonac1 | no,i am outside now,using phone to irc | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | ah ok | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | i just said that you may need to do make oldconfig clean all -- and then grep CONFIG_DEVTMPFS .config | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | and i'd like to see the .config as well | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | with oldconfig you can see if it accepts the option or not | 07:03 |
| sonac1 | i will go home ASAP:) | 07:04 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, no rush, i'm around most of today :) | 07:04 |
| sonac1 | ok,it's slow to type with phone... | 07:07 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: did we ever integrate that python patch? | 07:08 |
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| TomaszD | Hi | 07:59 |
| TomaszD | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350510026223&clk_rvr_id=308889730222 if anyone wants a cheap a2dp speaker from uk | 08:00 |
| TomaszD | Shame they dont ship elsewhere | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | cheap | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | my car is an a2dp speaker, is quite nice | 08:04 |
| TomaszD | Yup | 08:04 |
| TomaszD | I have no real use for this, but it's very cheap | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | use as a positioning point for bluetooth positioning.. | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:05 |
| TomaszD | Hah | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | a couple of those and you should have fairly good density | 08:06 |
| TomaszD | On a horizontal plane though | 08:07 |
| TomaszD | Bbl | 08:07 |
| TomaszD | Btw using ics on hp touchpad atm :-) | 08:08 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, sill on the list. I saw the 2.7 commit so priority lowered. Can look later | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | i just saw the failure for first time in a while so had to ask :) | 08:30 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: hello, | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | hello :) | 09:45 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: After doing "make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-hisiv200-linux- oldconfig". How to show you .config? | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: hmm, i guess you can send the file to me in an email | 09:47 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3229702 | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, that looks correct | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | and now make the kernel and flash it? | 09:51 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: It seems that the "make oldconfig" doesn't take effect.... the "CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y" line was added by me on hand... | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 09:51 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: should I do "make clean" or other? | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | make clean and then make the kernel, yes | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | the configuration looks fine | 09:52 |
| sonach | OK, | 09:52 |
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| sonach_ | Stskeeps: Making progress! now the current state is: http://pastie.org/3229773 | 10:06 |
| sonach_ | Stskeeps: Mer is booted,but some errors occur, | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | yes indeed :) | 10:06 |
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| sonach_ | Stskeeps: Now it comes to the realm of Mer, I don't quite understand the errors... :) | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | your console is called ttyAMA0? | 10:07 |
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| sonach_ | How to confirm this? | 10:08 |
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| Stskeeps | cmdline=mem=96M console=ttyAMA0,115200 root=/dev/mtdblock9 rootfstype=jffs2 mtdparts=hinand:1M(fastboot),1M(stbid),1M(loaderdb),1M(b | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | akloaderdb),5M(mainloader),5M(bakloader),1M(logo),1M(logo1),5M(kernel),58M(rootfs),3M(apparam1),3M(apparam2),8M(ui),35M(app),-(other) mmz=ddr,0,0x86000 | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | 000,160M | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | so yes | 10:08 |
| sonach | CONFIG_CMDLINE="mem=128M console=ttyAMA0,115200 console=ttyMTD,blackbox" | 10:09 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, go into where you have your root file system on your pc | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | and do ln -s ../serial-getty@.service ./lib/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/serial-getty@ttyAMA0.service | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | so your file system will contain /lib/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/serial-getty@ttyAMA0.service | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | in addition to that, add 'ttyAMA0' to /etc/securetty in the file system | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | and then do mkfs.jffs2 again | 10:11 |
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| Stskeeps | also, congratulations, your first mer bootup :) | 10:13 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: ln -s ../serial-getty@service xxx? but there is no target of ../serial-getty@service... | 10:14 |
| * phaeron notes systemd should start the rescue shell at that point instead of haning | 10:14 | |
| phaeron | *hanging | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yes, that's ok | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: just be sure to be in the directory of the mer root file system | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | and then ls -l ./lib/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/ afterwards | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: there's technically nothing wrong there | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i just added http://review.merproject.org/329 to systemd, so in next Mer core version, you can just add systemd-console-ttyAMA0 to your %packages in .ks, so it's easier | 10:18 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: good:) | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | i think people using st-ericsson boards need ttyAMA0 too, so | 10:19 |
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| Stskeeps | 12s bootup isn't half bad | 10:27 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Successfully boot to Mer!! | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: you got a login prompt? | 10:37 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: of course:) and I login into it. | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | congratulations :) | 10:37 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Thank you for you BIG help! After that, I should test X11. Is that right? At the end, I must run XBMC or QtMediaHub or something alike. | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: do you have a framebuffer on it? /dev/fb0 that is | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: if so, try to make a file system alike this one: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120120.1/kickstarts/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks | 10:40 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: no /dev/fb0... Why? | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: no framebuffer? hmm | 10:41 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes, maybe I should install correspond driver? | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | yes, perhaps | 10:42 |
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| Stskeeps | else we can't really draw to the screen ;) | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | in the %post section of that .ks, we're missing the following: | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3229950 | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | then qmlviewer should start up automatically, a nice test case | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | but first get framebuffer working | 10:43 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK. I think the drivers of hi3716m don't work at this moment. So I have to make the drivers work. | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | it is probably hifb.ko ? | 10:46 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: You are exactly right!! it is hifb.ko:) | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: one of the positive things about chinese manuals is that you don't use chinese characters for command lines and filenames ;) | 10:59 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: How do you know this? | 10:59 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: i looked up some manuals on the net about hisilicon hardware and guessed :) | 10:59 |
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| Stskeeps | remember, my main job has been hardware adaptation for the last 2-3 years | 11:00 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: cool:) Thank you for your instruction! | 11:00 |
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| Stskeeps | morn smoku | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: can you run 'free -m' on your board? | 11:07 |
| smoku | hi Stskeeps | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | i'm curious to see how much ram is in use | 11:07 |
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| lbt | sonach: congrats :) | 11:19 |
| lbt | and morning all | 11:20 |
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| phaeron | is mer core rebuilding again ? | 11:21 |
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| Stskeeps | shouldn't be | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 11:25 |
| phaeron | an i586 package I have is blocked | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | looks quite idle | 11:26 |
| phaeron | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Aiamer%3AMer%3Autils%3Auxselect | 11:26 |
| phaeron | https://build.pub.meego.com/monitor/old | 11:26 |
| phaeron | packages in blocked queue for i586 | 11:26 |
| phaeron | 842 | 11:27 |
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| Stskeeps | doesn't look righ | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | i did a messup with the imported release, maybe it got stuck? | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | on i586 specifically | 11:33 |
| phaeron | hmm | 11:33 |
| phaeron | I'll trigger a deep check | 11:33 |
| phaeron | nothing .. | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | lemme check fobs | 11:49 |
| Stskeeps | well, something is still querying it at least | 11:50 |
| phaeron | I think fakeobs is sending wrong state | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | well, it won't be sending 'blocked', for sure.. | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:51 |
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| Stskeeps | i can do a updates storm if you want, that should help shake the three | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | tree | 11:52 |
| sonach | lbt: thanks for your help:) | 11:53 |
| lbt | :) | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | storm started | 11:53 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3230270 is the result of "free -m" | 11:53 |
| w00t | heh | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, so not that bad | 11:54 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: So it is not that good? | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: 16mb used | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: it might be possible to get further down | 11:55 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: It is nice:) | 11:56 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: no effect | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: it takes time | 11:56 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: core-next i586 is not blocked , while core i586 is still blocked (watching the storm in the backend) | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | odd | 12:00 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: A trivial question. How do you know from error message that ttyAMA0 is the cause? | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: there wasn't any login prompt so a wild guess is that the 'getty' program wasn't running on it | 12:14 |
| sonach | but there was no "ttyAMA0" hint, just "Failed to open /sys/class/tty/tty0/active". How do you know it is ttyAMA0: | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: experience -- i had seen the kernel command line earlier and it said your console is ttyAMA0 | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | and experience tells me that if there's no login program running on console, we're missing the service for it | 12:15 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I agree, experience is the most important thing:) | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | and sometimes silence from a computer tells a lot :) | 12:19 |
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| seph143 | can i ask some question? | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | of course :) | 12:23 |
| seph143 | is the Nemo version for n900 is already supported telephone functionality? like sms and calls. thanks for the reply :D | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | best to ask in #nemomobile but yes, calls and sms works | 12:25 |
| seph143 | i just need to read the change log first :D brb, and i will try to ask if i can't understand some of them :D | 12:26 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: now what :) | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: hm? | 12:30 |
| phaeron | is there a caching proxy in the middle or something | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | not afaik | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | i'll restart fakeobs? | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | restarted | 12:31 |
| seph143 | can i used 8gb memory card instead of 4gb? | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | seph143: yes | 12:31 |
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| phaeron | triggered deep check again | 12:33 |
| seph143 | where can i download nemo imge file for n900? thanks again for the reply | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | seph143: wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo | 12:33 |
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| seph143 | @Stskeeps is it here? http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/ | 12:35 |
| * phaeron scratches head | 12:35 | |
| Stskeeps | seph143: right | 12:35 |
| phaeron | maybe remote cache is corrupted .. | 12:35 |
| seph143 | thanks http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20111208.2.NEMO.2011-12-22.1/images/ i just download "nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-testing/"? for n900? thanks again for the rep. | 12:36 |
| seph143 | @sir Stskeeps i need to download it form manifest up to vmlinuz-2.6.37-8.3.Nemo.Adaptation.N900-adaptation-n900? | 12:37 |
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| Stskeeps | seph143: the instructions are pretty clear :) | 12:39 |
| Stskeeps | i have to go for this afternoon, bbl | 12:39 |
| Stskeeps | seph143: please ask additional questions in #nemomobile | 12:39 |
| seph143 | @Sir Stskeeps thanks for the reply hehehe :D i'm just getting excited :D :D | 12:41 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Copy ko files(such as hifb.ko) to mer's rootfs, login into Mer, insmod these ko files. After that I can see /dev/fb0. | 13:38 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: How to load this ko files automatically when booting Mer, such as /etc/init.d/S90Modules of sysvinit? | 13:40 |
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| phaeron | lbt: ping | 13:53 |
| lbt | phaeron: pong | 13:54 |
| phaeron | I think the remotecache in cobs is corrupted | 13:54 |
| lbt | sonach: we have /etc/modprobe.d/ which I think is working | 13:54 |
| lbt | phaeron: mmm | 13:55 |
| lbt | is this because rpms have the same version/build # but different content? | 13:55 |
| phaeron | for mer fakeobs i586 specifically | 13:56 |
| phaeron | no check https://build.pub.meego.com/monitor/old | 13:56 |
| phaeron | look at state of i586 | 13:56 |
| lbt | mmm | 13:56 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps restarted fakeobs , so I don't think the problem is on his side | 13:56 |
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| phaeron | a deep check on it doesn't help either | 13:57 |
| lbt | looking at the logs | 13:58 |
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| sonach | lbt: I will try it:) | 14:04 |
| lbt | sonach: if it doesn't work let me know | 14:04 |
| sonach | lbt: ok! | 14:04 |
| sonach | lbt: how to work with /etc/modprobe.d? add "insmod xxx.ko" into one of the conf file? | 14:06 |
| lbt | sonach: the format is "install xxx" | 14:07 |
| sonach | lbt: for example, something like "install hifb.ko" is OK? | 14:09 |
| lbt | yes (I think so) | 14:09 |
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| sonach | or "install hifb /sbin/modprobe"? | 14:10 |
| sonach | Anyway, I will try it later. | 14:11 |
| lbt | sonach: I need to check on that | 14:12 |
| sonach | lbt: one more question. In "releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120120.1/builds/armv7l/packages/", there are armv7hl and armv7l DIR; and in "releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120120.1/builds/armv7hl/packages/", there are also armv7hl and armv7l. what's the difference? | 14:13 |
| sonach | lbt: What bothers me is that the directory structure is very strange... | 14:14 |
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| sonach | lbt: "builds/armv7l/packages/armv7hl" and "builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7l"are very strange.... | 14:15 |
| lbt | sonach: there's some info at the bottom of this page: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/ARM | 14:15 |
| sonach | lbt: I mean, the directory structure is very strange. Not what "h" or "l" means, | 14:16 |
| lbt | ah, I see | 14:17 |
| lbt | (I know our naming conventions sometimes need explaining) | 14:17 |
| sonach | lbt: ignore this:) What arch do you suggest, armv7hl or armv7l for my platform? | 14:18 |
| sonach | lbt: "uname -a" of my platform is "Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.35.7_hi3716m #3 Sun Jan 22 18:00:19 CST 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux" | 14:19 |
| sonach | lbt: Does this mean that armv7l is suitable? | 14:19 |
| lbt | yes, that should work | 14:20 |
| lbt | I thought you'd already built a working rootfs? | 14:21 |
| sonach | lbt: hmm, I have built a working rootfs with mer-core-armv7l-base.ks. Now I am going to build one with mer-core-armv7l-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks. | 14:23 |
| lbt | OK - so I don't know exactly what HW you have - but if the armv7l worked then continue to use it for now | 14:24 |
| lbt | it may be worth checking later to see what the pros/cons are of switching | 14:24 |
| lbt | I think the main issue will be if you're provided with pre-built binaries that need a certain ABI | 14:25 |
| lbt | oh, I was wrong about auto module load... you need to mkdir /etc/modules-load.d; echo hifb > /etc/modules-load.d/hifb.conf | 14:26 |
| lbt | systemd is quite new so some of these things are not as well documented as they could be | 14:27 |
| sonach | lbt: I understand the issus of pre-built binaries of a certain ABI:) | 14:27 |
| lbt | sonach: sorry :) | 14:28 |
| lbt | phaeron: gimme a sec to get this module build going .... and what's the backend actually stuck on? | 14:29 |
| sonach | lbt: I don't understand "echo hifb > /etc/modules-load.d/hifb.conf"... | 14:30 |
| lbt | damn ... ^D out of a chroot - when I wasn't in it ... | 14:30 |
| phaeron | nothing is stuck. it's waiting for fakeobs to finish building stuff , when there is nothing actually building there | 14:30 |
| lbt | sonach: systemd looks at .conf files in that directory and the format is the plain module name | 14:30 |
| phaeron | so all the stuff that builds against mer core in fakeobs is waiting in blocked state | 14:31 |
| lbt | sonach: I don't think the actual filename matters | 14:31 |
| lbt | phaeron: and Stskeeps restarted fakeobs | 14:31 |
| phaeron | yeah | 14:32 |
| sonach | lbt: so I create /etc/modules-load.d/load.conf. and put all ko file names in the load.conf. Is that right? | 14:32 |
| lbt | that would be fine too | 14:32 |
| lbt | be aware that that is systemd driven | 14:32 |
| lbt | so it will only happen when rootfs is up | 14:32 |
| sonach | lbt: thank you! I will try this. Maybe I read some docs on systemd... | 14:32 |
| lbt | I mean it's obvious but worth mentioning | 14:33 |
| sonach | I should read some docs about systemd in order to understand Mer well... | 14:33 |
| lbt | yes, the main docs are here http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-docs.html | 14:34 |
| lbt | but I'll be writing a summary of systemd in Mer 'soon' :) | 14:34 |
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| lbt | yay ... kernel-devel packaging works | 14:38 |
| sonach | lbt: thanks for your work:) | 14:39 |
| sonach | lbt: Error: failed to create image : Failed to find package 'xorg-x11-drv-kbd' : No package(s) available to install | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | remove that line, may be mistake from my part | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | fbdev and evdev is what matters | 14:39 |
| lbt | sonach: np - and you can tell I'm not the ARM expert :) | 14:40 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I already removes that and now it is progressing | 14:41 |
| sonach | lbt: you are doing more job on X86? | 14:44 |
| lbt | sonach: I am - but mainly I do systems and process work | 14:45 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Now what I am concerning is, how big the jffs2 file will be for mer-core-xorg-basis... | 14:45 |
| lbt | sonach: making sure we can scale to multiple development teams | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: we'll see | 14:46 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: there is many ways to slice footprint | 14:46 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: OK. let's see the result first:) | 14:47 |
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| sonach | lbt: what do you mean by "scale to multiple development teams"? | 14:47 |
| lbt | sonach: I used to work for Nokia - so they'd have many many people writing code for a device; all spread into different teams... that needs QA testing and integrating | 14:48 |
| lbt | so we need automation systems to run QA checks for all our changes | 14:48 |
| lbt | also, when Mer changes, vendors like you need to run QA to make sure nothing breaks | 14:49 |
| lbt | so we have tools and systems for that | 14:49 |
| lbt | which isn't important on day 1 when you boot the prototype | 14:49 |
| lbt | but is *very* important when you need to finalise code to ship a device | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | ensuring quality :) | 14:50 |
| lbt | always :D | 14:50 |
| sonach | lbt: Ok, I see:) | 14:51 |
| lbt | sonach: yep - hopefully it's good for you to know that these things will be there later on when you need them | 14:52 |
| sonach | lbt: Are these things there already? | 14:53 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: forcing a cold scan of OBS scheduler - phaeron's idea | 14:53 |
| lbt | sonach: yes | 14:53 |
| phaeron | *cold start | 14:53 |
| phaeron | of i586 scheduler only | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:54 |
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| lbt | sonach: let me know if you need to discuss them. Mer already uses some of this for it's own QA. The Nemo project also uses it to run checks. | 14:55 |
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| lbt | first I guess you need to make the prototype work :) | 14:55 |
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| phaeron | lbt: it's done and still everything is blocked .. | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | what does it block on? | 15:06 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: everything | 15:07 |
| phaeron | check https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=CE%3AUtils | 15:07 |
| lbt | "nothing provides" | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | on the go atm, can't see | 15:07 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: for example glew in CE:Utils is blocked on libXi-devel, libX11-devel, libXmu-devel, libXext-devel, libXi, xorg-x11-proto-inputproto, libX11, libxcb-devel, libXt-devel, libXmu, libXext, libxcb, libXfixes-devel, libXdamage-devel, libXxf86vm-devel, libXt, libXfixes, libXdamage, libXxf86vm | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | hmmmm | 15:09 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: wget in CE:Utils is blocked on openssl-devel, openssl | 15:09 |
| lbt | also nohup.out is 1.6Gb ... | 15:09 |
| lbt | sorry, a mere 1.3Gb | 15:09 |
| phaeron | that's for fakeobs, right ? | 15:09 |
| lbt | yes | 15:09 |
| * phaeron sips some more coffee | 15:09 | |
| Stskeeps | why does it think it's blocked? | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | i didn't even know obs could do that over the wire | 15:10 |
| phaeron | it knows when stuff is rebuilding | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 15:11 |
| phaeron | trying something on the source server | 15:11 |
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| phaeron | I can see the blocked stuff in the cached state in the srcserver | 15:16 |
| phaeron | trying to get a non cache .. | 15:16 |
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| lbt | how nice, spectacle erases %post scripts and doesn't seem to have a keyword for them | 15:23 |
| phaeron | there's a "no touch" part afair | 15:24 |
| lbt | I really hate doing half in yaml and half in spec | 15:25 |
| lbt | and not knowing if your edits will be erased | 15:26 |
| lbt | so you have to keep backups | 15:26 |
| lbt | and then finding a hoop to jump through | 15:26 |
| lbt | and the docs are about as sane as running "strings" on an exe | 15:26 |
| lbt | -> coffee | 15:27 |
| sonach | lbt: If I "echo hifb.ko > /etc/moduls-load.d/load.conf", Where should I put hifo.ko to ? | 15:27 |
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| sonach | lbt: put *.ko to /etc/modules-load.d/ ? | 15:28 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: /lib/modules/kernelversion/ and depmod -a | 15:29 |
| Stskeeps | ok, battery running out, so i got to go. sonach: have a happy chinese new year :) | 15:30 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: thank you! | 15:31 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: what do you mean "/lib/modules/kernelversion/ and depmod -a". kernelversion is 2.6.35 | 15:32 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Don't have power adapter with you? | 15:33 |
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| sonach | AC adaptor | 15:33 |
| phaeron | sonach: he's not at home :) | 15:33 |
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| phaeron | sonach: when you install modules from a kernel build they go to a directory /lib/modules/<kernel_version>/something/something | 15:34 |
| phaeron | so in your case /lib/modules/2.6.35/video/hifb.ko | 15:34 |
| sonach | phaeron: ok. I already copy something to /lib/modules, | 15:34 |
| phaeron | if you do that manually then you run depmod -a so that modprobe knows about this new module | 15:35 |
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| sonach | phaeron: On my vendor's rootfs, a bundle of ko files are provided seperately from /lib/modules/xxx. I should insmod the ko files manually | 15:36 |
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| sonach | phaeron: So i just copy /kmod(which holds a lot of ko files) to my Mer rootfs. After I have logined into Mer, I install ko files under /kmod manually. And it works. | 15:37 |
| phaeron | insmod inserts a single module file | 15:37 |
| sonach | phaeron: for example, after doing "insmod /kmod/hifb.ko", /etc/fb0 will come out. | 15:37 |
| phaeron | modprobe works by dependencies | 15:38 |
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| phaeron | so if your hifb module depends on fb module it will insert that first | 15:38 |
| sonach | but how does the system find the ko files when they lives in /kmod directory? | 15:38 |
| phaeron | modprobe will not find them if they are not in the correct place and depmod knows about them | 15:39 |
| phaeron | otherwise you need to use insmod like you said | 15:39 |
| phaeron | so instead of putting them in /kmod put them inside the modules directory and run depmod a | 15:39 |
| phaeron | depmod -a | 15:40 |
| sonach | phaeron: I don't quite catch what you said. | 15:45 |
| sonach | phaeron: I do "cp /kmod /lib/modules/linux-2.6.25/" and run "depmod -a". nothing changed for modules.dep | 15:46 |
| phaeron | mkdir /lib/modules/linux-2.6.25/kernel/hifb/ | 15:47 |
| phaeron | cp /kmod/* /lib/modules/linux-2.6.25/kernel/hifb/ | 15:47 |
| phaeron | depmod -a | 15:47 |
| phaeron | does that work ? | 15:47 |
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| sonach | phaeron: OK, It works! But now I was working in Mer. If I am on my host pc, how can I do this? ah, just add something like "kernel/hifb/hifb.ko" to modules.dep manually? | 15:50 |
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| phaeron | no | 15:54 |
| phaeron | are those modules built from source ? | 15:54 |
| phaeron | if so then you need to write a spec file that builds them and installs them in the correct place | 15:55 |
| phaeron | if they are binaries only then you can write a spec file that just copies them in the right place | 15:55 |
| phaeron | the depmod -a can be in a %post | 15:55 |
| vgrade1 | Stskeeps, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBs7KaTK5Hk | 15:57 |
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| phaeron | lbt: there ? | 16:02 |
| lbt | yes | 16:02 |
| lbt | phaeron: ? | 16:04 |
| sonach | phaeron: OK, I will write "depmod -a" in %post! | 16:05 |
| sonach | phaeron: thank you for your instructions:) | 16:05 |
| phaeron | no problem | 16:06 |
| sonach | Ah, there are firecracker every place outside. Beijing Time is about 00:00, Chinese New Year arrives:) | 16:08 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: there ? | 16:28 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: its fakeobs's fault , the repository cache file in fakeobs contains the broken state. I don't know how you generate it , so I'll wait for you to come back and do so :) | 16:38 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: ah crap | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: will look in 30 mins | 17:23 |
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| lbt | hmm uxlaunch problems | 17:40 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: i dump it from obs, not sure why it would think it's broken | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | ie blocked | 17:54 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: i'm switching repo to the 0.2 prerelease, which is equal to the final release | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | but exported at an earlier point | 18:02 |
| * phaeron doesn't get it :D | 18:03 | |
| Stskeeps | ok, so, i did one export which became Core:i586:0.20120120.0.2, and another, which became .1 (final release) | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | 0.2 is what Core-next points to atm | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | so i'm changing the binary repo of Core:i586 to the older 0.2 version | 18:05 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: let me know if this clears out the blokage | 18:08 |
| phaeron | ooh yeah it's the attack of the builds | 18:08 |
| phaeron | anybody got a few spare workers | 18:10 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: did you look inside the file obs-repos/Core\:i586\:latest/Core_i586/i586/_repository\?view\=cache | 18:12 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: it had the blocked state | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | no, it's a perl database | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | which i don't know how to read | 18:12 |
| phaeron | but you can still see stuff inside with less | 18:13 |
| phaeron | or strings if you're picky :) | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 18:13 |
| phaeron | you probably got the repository state while things were rebuilding in your obs | 18:14 |
| phaeron | that's the only explanation I can think of .. | 18:14 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: fyi I ran stskeeps@shell:~/release-tools$ make packages-git/mappingscache.xml | 18:15 |
| lbt | on the grounds that it was already dead and that was in the docs | 18:15 |
| lbt | (where docs==history ... correct? :P ) | 18:15 |
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| phaeron | since you export static repos why not just use download on demand :D | 18:16 |
| lbt | rsync | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: yeah, though i'm fairly sure it was done | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: yeah, mappingscache.xml is just source | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | s | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: obs-repos/ is the binary reos | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | repos | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: btw, did you document the 'autoloading modules' thing anywhere? | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | that's going to be a hot topic | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: nice | 18:20 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yes, in my HA notes | 18:20 |
| lbt | I'm doing a boot-process thing which goes into systemd | 18:20 |
| lbt | also... uxlaunch sucks | 18:20 |
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| phaeron | lbt: why :) | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: why does it suck? | 18:21 |
| phaeron | I thought autoloading modules was best done by udev | 18:21 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3232174 | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: only if it's in your board file in kernel | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: don't try to modprobe in a udev rule :) | 18:22 |
| lbt | 'cos it doesn't tell me why it dies and I'm in a hurry to make tea :) | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: Xorg.0.log ? | 18:23 |
| lbt | ah | 18:24 |
| lbt | Fatal server error: | 18:24 |
| lbt | [ 2971.131] AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 | 18:24 |
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| lbt | http://pastie.org/3232184 | 18:25 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, 'mic' is kinda cool | 18:42 |
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| Stskeeps | evening Alastor89 | 19:24 |
| Alastor89 | good evening | 19:24 |
| Alastor89 | i'm Alastor89 from TMO | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, welcome :) | 19:25 |
| Alastor89 | i've some question | 19:25 |
| Alastor89 | *I have | 19:25 |
| Alastor89 | I want to start to develop some applications for n900 and n9, and I want to help the community, so can you give me some link or some books that I can read to start ? | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | i'd recommend you to learn Qt/QML | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | and helping n900/n9, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo | 19:28 |
| Alastor89 | thank you, i'll start to search some books in amazon ^_^ | 19:29 |
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| Stskeeps | also online tutorials | 19:34 |
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| Alastor89 | yes, I've sew some example on nokia developer page | 19:39 |
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| Stskeeps | Mer booting to qmlviewer on MIPS, qemu system emulator, http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mer-on-mipsel-qemu.png | 19:51 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: are there any fun MIPS based hardware? | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: well, a large bunch of STBs i would presume | 19:52 |
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| smoku | STBs are not fun ;-( | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | hehe ;) | 19:53 |
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| smoku | but I would switch our oe setup for mer in a heartbeat ;-) | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | this is even already cross compile activated | 19:57 |
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| Stskeeps | ie, it builds almost as fast as arm | 20:00 |
| smoku | btw, should I use lbt's template packages to package my kernel? | 20:16 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, it's much better | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | though i dont think he has a arm variant yet | 20:17 |
| smoku | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Asmoku%3ACordia%3AShared :-) | 20:17 |
| smoku | gobject-introspection builds fine for ARM :) | 20:17 |
| smoku | (yesterday it was 'failed') | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | curious | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | i didn't fix anything ;) | 20:18 |
| smoku | didn't you link new Mer release on COBS? | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes, true | 20:18 |
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| smoku | so it fixed ARM build | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | but that didn't contain anything in compiler area, i think | 20:18 |
| smoku | new glib? | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | except for gnu style hash | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 20:18 |
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| Stskeeps | the glibc changes -may- have helped a bit | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | we did some patches to make sb2 work better | 20:19 |
| smoku | the problem was in non-working ldd | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 20:21 |
| lbt | smoku: the same one builds for arm and x86 https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=kernel-adaptation-sample&project=home%3Albt%3AMer%3ASample%3AHA&repository=Mer_Core_armv7hl | 20:23 |
| lbt | the only reason that fails is because the config produces firmware not listed in %files | 20:23 |
| lbt | let me know if you use it though because I'm about to update the template to include some checking | 20:24 |
| smoku | lbt: ok. thx | 20:25 |
| smoku | I will let you know | 20:25 |
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| smoku | lbt: on COBS when I add project repositories via add_repository_from_default_list it adds Mer_Core_armv7hl () and Mer_Core_armv7l () | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, don't use the default list | 20:44 |
| smoku | lbt: () as no builders defined. is it on purpose? | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | it's buggy | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | add it using the stuff in topic | 20:44 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: doesn't it just need the arches selecting ? | 20:44 |
| smoku | actually if I use it and then check Architectures: in "Edit repository" it seems to do the job | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: as in, it doesn't set the right <arch> | 20:45 |
| lbt | it hasn't annoyed me enough to look at it :) | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | it's either all or none | 20:45 |
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| lbt | OBS limitation ? | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | webui | 20:46 |
| lbt | yeah | 20:46 |
| smoku | so it's better to have none and then select the proper ones | 20:46 |
| lbt | I think that's what it does | 20:46 |
| smoku | if its a known issue I will shut up now :) | 20:47 |
| lbt | if you hit an issue it means there should be docs... | 20:48 |
| smoku | lbt: copying your template gives me "nothing provides u-boot-omap4panda-tools" - known issue? | 20:48 |
| lbt | yes... you also need to read the instructions :) | 20:48 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step | 20:49 |
| smoku | thx | 20:49 |
| lbt | "Both methods; build and/or hack on code" | 20:49 |
| lbt | the yaml has a BR for a uboot bootloader | 20:49 |
| lbt | you need a board/device specific uboot | 20:49 |
| smoku | and if I do not use uboot? | 20:56 |
| lbt | what device? | 20:56 |
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| smoku | GT-i8320 | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: you should only BR on u-boot tools, not uboot | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: it's the mkimage it relies on for uImage | 20:57 |
| lbt | essentially HA is not part of Mer - so it is whatever you want..... | 20:57 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yes, I'm pretty sure that's what's in the yaml | 20:57 |
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| Stskeeps | and that mkimage is not specific to a certain uboot :P | 20:57 |
| lbt | ah, I think sage said it was ... good to know | 20:58 |
| lbt | or at least I asked in such a way that I misunderstood | 20:58 |
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| phaeron | smoku: need help with that cordia stuff? I am toying with gnome3 on mer and think it has in common with Cordia | 21:02 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3232184 AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 | 21:02 |
| lbt | any idea what that error means? | 21:03 |
| smoku | phaeron: let's move to #cordia please :) | 21:03 |
| phaeron | yet another #irc | 21:03 |
| phaeron | :D | 21:03 |
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| smoku | lbt: so, should I pull u-boot-omap4panda-tools to my project, link any project or ? | 21:04 |
| lbt | if you need uboot - it will do the job | 21:04 |
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| lbt | and yes, you should have your own HA project | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: what do you have in your xorg.conf.d ? | 21:04 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: now I have http://pastie.org/3232995 | 21:05 |
| lbt | I had it working to the same level with just the Device section | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | drop the evtouch | 21:06 |
| * Stskeeps looks in his own notes | 21:06 | |
| lbt | same | 21:08 |
| lbt | http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Lucid fyi | 21:08 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/meego-tablet-ia32-kitchen.ks | 21:08 |
| Stskeeps | DefaultDepth is fairly essential, if i remember correctly | 21:08 |
| lbt | same message | 21:09 |
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| Stskeeps | well, try to walk through my .ks's setup, it worked in old emgd at least | 21:10 |
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| lbt | ok | 21:10 |
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| Stskeeps | DefaultDepth/Depth was pretty essential, so was evdev vs evtouch | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | but it's been ages since i played with the joggler last | 21:11 |
| lbt | the thing is there are no warnings | 21:13 |
| lbt | it just has that one error | 21:13 |
| lbt | and even that is not (EE) | 21:13 |
| lbt | and I'm getting the screen flash | 21:13 |
| smoku | lbt: so if I do not need uboot I can safely remove the dependency and all lines requiring it? | 21:17 |
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| lbt | yes | 21:17 |
| lbt | and make sure you build the right kind of kernel | 21:17 |
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| smoku | lbt: :/ the package just failed patching the kernel with patch 25 of 52 :/ | 21:38 |
| smoku | as the patches are exported from git, I'm puzzled :/ | 21:39 |
| lbt | did you change the Version: | 21:39 |
| smoku | of course | 21:39 |
| lbt | is it on COBS ? | 21:40 |
| smoku | not yet. local build. | 21:40 |
| lbt | and are you using my script? | 21:40 |
| smoku | yes | 21:40 |
| smoku | tarball and patches exported by git2tarball.sh | 21:41 |
| lbt | any chance you have binary diff or possibly mv/renames? | 21:41 |
| smoku | in kernel git? | 21:42 |
| smoku | no idea :) | 21:42 |
| smoku | just cloned it | 21:42 |
| lbt | OK .. so why do you have 52 patches? | 21:42 |
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| smoku | this tree has a lot of changes to vanilla kernel to make it work on the device | 21:43 |
| smoku | changes ported from vendor's frankenkernel | 21:43 |
| smoku | I will try exporting the patches again | 21:44 |
| lbt | well | 21:46 |
| lbt | try removing the -M and -C options | 21:46 |
| lbt | in the script | 21:46 |
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| lbt | whilst that's the normal format, it's less compatible | 21:47 |
| smoku | it did help. thanks :) | 21:50 |
| lbt | good - I'll update the script | 21:50 |
| smoku | lbt: as I understand this package uses fixed.config file. you do not plan to generate .config from common and hardware specific options like the meego n900 kernel package did? | 21:52 |
| lbt | no | 21:53 |
| lbt | instead we have a config checker | 21:53 |
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| lbt | that verifies and warns if you have missing/extra/wrong CONFIG_* | 21:53 |
| smoku | right. that's a better idea. :) | 21:54 |
| smoku | it's not there yet? | 21:54 |
| lbt | yes, it is | 21:54 |
| lbt | you should find a BR on it | 21:55 |
| lbt | ah | 21:55 |
| smoku | BR is commented-out | 21:55 |
| lbt | did you copy the arm one? | 21:55 |
| lbt | no, you are correct | 21:56 |
| smoku | i copied kernel-adaptation-sample | 21:56 |
| smoku | is there another one for ARM? | 21:56 |
| lbt | no :) | 21:56 |
| lbt | but there's a joggler one | 21:56 |
| lbt | which I'm working on and then updating sample | 21:56 |
| smoku | which should I use then? :D | 21:56 |
| lbt | you're using the right one | 21:57 |
| lbt | it's just not correct yet | 21:57 |
| smoku | BTW, I already love git2tarball.sh :) | 21:57 |
| smoku | good work | 21:57 |
| lbt | ty | 21:57 |
| lbt | so PkgBR on mer-kernel-check | 21:58 |
| lbt | which you'll have to copypac for now | 21:59 |
| lbt | it will go into mer core next week | 21:59 |
| smoku | please link http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step in kernel-adaptation-sample.yaml header :) | 21:59 |
| lbt | yes, excellent idea | 21:59 |
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| vgrade | lbt, good 2209 emgd log, http://pastebin.com/CqG6xjyf | 23:09 |
| lbt | vgrade: :) | 23:09 |
| vgrade | from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1229345&page=497 | 23:09 |
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| lbt | vmlinuz-3.0.0 | 23:10 |
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| vgrade | from a sony vaio. we used to be able to use same driver on joggler and vaio with just changes to res | 23:12 |
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| vgrade | port order 42000 | 23:14 |
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| lbt | I just tried 4200 | 23:17 |
| lbt | 0 | 23:17 |
| lbt | no change | 23:17 |
| lbt | vgrade: http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#I_keep_getting_the_message:_.22AddScreen.2BAC8-ScreenInit_failed_for_driver_0.22 | 23:19 |
| lbt | it's annoying because the emgd drm driver is in and working - but there's no clue why it just stops | 23:20 |
| lbt | that hints at oom | 23:21 |
| lbt | it may just not work | 23:23 |
| lbt | "support for xorg 1.10 is experimental and from what I've seen it is crashy on my acer or doesn't work at all on other netbooks" | 23:23 |
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| lbt | exotica says it's working though | 23:28 |
| lbt | http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/ubuntu/ Kernel 3.1.6. Xserver 1.10 | 23:29 |
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| vgrade | yes, they do report succes, wonder what their xorg.conf looks like | 23:37 |
| lbt | http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/source/overlay/etc/X11/ | 23:37 |
| lbt | I'm running on 2.6.37.3 though | 23:38 |
| lbt | to enable the emgd drm driver to build | 23:38 |
| lbt | but... | 23:38 |
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| lbt | http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/source/emgd/ | 23:39 |
| vgrade | that may be old as its dated march and 2209 is from nov | 23:39 |
| lbt | http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/source/emgd/04-build-on-kernel-2.6.39.patch | 23:40 |
| lbt | it's so easy I can prolly port it | 23:40 |
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| lbt | I recall the argument # mismatch when building last time | 23:41 |
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| vgrade | i'd check the xorg.conf from an exotica image once you have those patches in place | 23:46 |
| lbt | well bugger me... it built | 23:46 |
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| lbt | rpm -e kernel;rpm -i kernel; systemctl reboot .... that bit worked | 23:51 |
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| lbt | exactly the same error | 23:52 |
| lbt | tar: command not found = sometimes a minimal OS is a PITA | 23:56 |
| vgrade | were those patches to the .ko source? | 23:57 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: looks like Dawati is still GTK+ 2 based :( | 23:57 |
| phaeron | there's a gtk3 branchj | 23:58 |
| lbt | vgrade: 3.1.6 will build the .ko for emgd_drm cleanly | 23:58 |
| lbt | so when I upgraded the HA kernel source in OBS to 3.1.6 ... they built :) | 23:58 |
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