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| Stskeeps | morn | 07:53 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: morning. Found the problem yet? | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | i have no coffee and i just woke up 20 minutes ago, not yet :P | 08:21 |
| Sage | hehe :) | 08:22 |
| Sage | sry, can't help much today have quite a busy day coming. | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | that's ok | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: so what was the exact issues we were supposed to have? bad touch? | 08:42 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: i can only blame high cpu usage / libmeegotouch on the touch issues i do see | 08:58 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: hmmp... | 09:34 |
| Sage | touch and systemui going nuts | 09:34 |
| Sage | the gestures crash was fixed by the xinput revert | 09:35 |
| Sage | the touch on N900 have had problems before as well though | 09:36 |
| Sage | the touch problem I had was on the apps menu and closing apps. The quick launchbar and the appmenu launche seemed to work nicely | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, ok | 09:37 |
| * Stskeeps tries to build old version of libmtf | 09:37 | |
| Sage | did we have some libmtf touch patch as well at some point? | 09:39 |
| Sage | or was it only qt? | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | qt only | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | there was the pan gesture thing | 09:40 |
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| Stskeeps | either way, i don't think it's core related | 09:41 |
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| Sage | ok | 09:43 |
| Sage | btw, did you test the x86 image? | 09:45 |
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| Stskeeps | no, that's next on my list | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | morn nsuffys | 09:46 |
| nsuffys | Good morning Stskeeps ;) | 09:49 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: sysuid still acts up on x86 | 10:53 |
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| Stskeeps | nsuffys: did you happen to have a wetab or exopc or something? | 11:01 |
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| smoku | are my eyes right? we can finally build packages for Fedora and openSUSE on COBS? :) | 11:22 |
| lbt | thank phaeron | 11:23 |
| lbt | but... | 11:23 |
| lbt | the top level distros are there... that doesn't mean builds will work | 11:23 |
| lbt | no-one who cares *that* much about Fedora has helped to debug it | 11:24 |
| lbt | oh... morning all :) | 11:24 |
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| lbt | but smoku if you have any problems/suggestions then do let me know | 11:24 |
| smoku | should I try and report bugs on bugzilla then? | 11:25 |
| lbt | sure | 11:25 |
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| smoku | which bugzilla? | 11:25 |
| lbt | meego - do understand it's not my top priority at the moment - but if I feel it's translatable to Mer then I'll be much more motivated | 11:26 |
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| smoku | on the main page of COBS I see only "More about the MBS, License restrictions, policy, links to bugzilla etc" ;D | 11:26 |
| lbt | yeah .... well, meego's dead so tidying up wording is not a big issue :) | 11:27 |
| smoku | I'm building my cordia packages to build both for Mer and Fedora (which is my local development platform) | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 11:27 |
| lbt | morning | 11:27 |
| lbt | smoku: ah, OK | 11:27 |
| smoku | keeping the Mer COBS package with my local rpmbuild package is PITA | 11:27 |
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| lbt | that raises the prio :) | 11:27 |
| smoku | it would be nice if I could just use COBS to install packages to my devel machine | 11:28 |
| lbt | report bugs on the meego bz and make sure I'm cc'ed (if I'm not actually assigned) | 11:28 |
| smoku | ok. cool. :) | 11:28 |
| smoku | thanks | 11:28 |
| lbt | np | 11:28 |
| smoku | morn all btw :) | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | \o/ libqtwebkit4-2.1.0-1.1.mipsel.rpm | 11:29 |
| lbt | congrats :) | 11:30 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: were there any interest in packaging dawati for Mer? If not, I'm going to do it - I need an upgrade for my Ideapad. But maybe I should sync with someone? | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: i'm personally interested, but i haven't seen anyone packaging it yet | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | (for others, dawati: http://dawati.org/ | 11:31 |
| smoku | ok. so I will just start by "upgrading" moblin packages and we'll see what's what | 11:32 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: so ... config packages... | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:34 |
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| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=mer-kernel-check&project=home%3Albt%3AMer%3ASample%3AHA | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | get a version number on the tarball? | 11:35 |
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| lbt | well, I didn't want to make a git repo etc if I was going to merge them | 11:36 |
| lbt | so that's just minimal packaging | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:36 |
| lbt | I guess as a 1st step I could package independently | 11:37 |
| lbt | then merge all the mer config to one place as a task | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: things i'm curious about: ability to run on glesv2 for that netbook ux | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: think cheap arm/mips netbooks :P | 11:43 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: I had some issues building NetbookUX for ARM | 11:59 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: mostly related to hardcoded glx ;-) | 12:00 |
| smoku | but that's workable | 12:00 |
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| lbt | morning sonach | 12:15 |
| sonach | morning lbt:) | 12:16 |
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| nsuffys | Stskeeps: I've two Nokia N900 (azerty & qwerty) and two Nokia N9 (Black & White), I think investing in a WeTab, but it isn't sold in France. WeTab can run Nemomobile / Mer and perhaps Tizen ? | 12:33 |
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| nsuffys | oh find it at grosbill for 329€ ! | 12:42 |
| lbt | phaeron: ask smoku about cordia | 12:42 |
| phaeron | I saw the video and it made me feel nostalgic about the n900. would be nice to have it on this tablet :) | 12:44 |
| smoku | phaeron: which tablet? | 12:52 |
| phaeron | dell xt2 (i586) | 12:52 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: looks like FOSDEM might simply invalidate the need for that proprietary driver... :D | 12:55 |
| smoku | phaeron: grab http://cordiahd.org/download/HD/ and it should work :) | 12:56 |
| phaeron | I was thinking more installing it on top of base mer :) | 12:56 |
| smoku | the image was built from Stskeeps' OBS repos, which are no more... | 12:57 |
| phaeron | but I noticed you are reorganizing the projects/repos | 12:57 |
| phaeron | yeah | 12:57 |
| phaeron | ok I'll wait while you are creating the new ones | 12:57 |
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| smoku | and the packages do not build with current Mer | 12:58 |
| phaeron | oh :( | 12:58 |
| phaeron | there was an extra linker flag that was needed | 12:58 |
| smoku | back that | 12:59 |
| smoku | for i586 they are fine | 12:59 |
| phaeron | lbt: upower needs pm-utils wich is not available | 13:00 |
| phaeron | lbt: zless needs less which is not anywhere in core either | 13:00 |
| smoku | phaeron: I'm in a process of moving from GTK2 to GTK3, so it may take few weeks to get it working again | 13:00 |
| phaeron | that has to be a lot of effort | 13:01 |
| smoku | a bit | 13:02 |
| smoku | I'm almost dome porting Hildon. hildon-desktop should be easier | 13:03 |
| * phaeron wants to offer help, but not sure what I can do :) | 13:04 | |
| phaeron | lbt: your sample kernel config is missing fanotify ? | 13:04 |
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| lbt | phaeron: yes .. how did you know | 13:08 |
| phaeron | lbt: sifting through dmesg | 13:09 |
| phaeron | I don't see ill effects yet | 13:09 |
| lbt | here's my kernel build log http://pastie.org/3224674 | 13:10 |
| lbt | you like ? | 13:11 |
| phaeron | nice :) | 13:14 |
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| phaeron | the only audio playback app for pa is crashing when I try to play something | 13:23 |
| phaeron | and the image viewer crashes too .. | 13:23 |
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| * lbt suspects he needs > kernel 2.2.17 for Mer... | 13:25 | |
| lbt | so my car stereo is out then .... :) | 13:26 |
| lbt | of course reading the Mer wiki kernel page doesn't confirm this .... | 13:26 |
| sonach | lbt: I make hi3716m_rootfs.cramfs from mer-core-rootfs, and burn it to nandflash. When mounting the rootfs, error. maybe this error is releated to linux3.0. Please look at http://pastie.org/3224754 | 13:29 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 13:29 | |
| sonach | Stskeeps: thanks! | 13:30 |
| lbt | http://jithu83.blogspot.com/2008/07/cramfs-bad-compressed-blocksize.html possibly? | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: it looks like a corrupted file system somehow - is your kernel command line including "quiet" somehow? | 13:31 |
| lbt | sonach: oops .. you can't read that | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: pastie it | 13:31 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3224771 | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | the blog post seem like it may be the case | 13:32 |
| sonach | Stskeeps, bootargs is: bootargs=mem=96M console=ttyAMA0,115200 root=/dev/mtdblock9 rootfstype=cramfs mtdparts=hinand:1M(fastboot),1M(stbid),1M(loaderdb),1M(bakloaderdb),5M(ma | 13:32 |
| sonach | inloader),5M(bakloader),1M(logo),1M(logo1),5M(kernel),58M(rootfs),3M(apparam1),3M(apparam2),8M(ui),35M(app),-(other) mmz=ddr,0,0x86000000,160M | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, just wanted to check we got all the information we needed | 13:33 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: after mkfs.cramfs, the hi3716m_rootfs.cramfs is burn to the 58M rootfs region. | 13:34 |
| lbt | 58M ? | 13:36 |
| sonach | lbt: the region is 58MB, and hi3716m_rootfs.cramfs is about 47MB | 13:38 |
| lbt | OK | 13:39 |
| lbt | hmm the root cause is "if (compr_len > (PAGE_CACHE_SIZE << 1))" | 13:40 |
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| sonach | lbt: what do you mean by this? | 13:43 |
| lbt | cramfs/inode.c | 13:43 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: what parameters did you use to make cramfs? | 13:47 |
| lbt | sonach: what kernel ? | 13:47 |
| sonach | just like this: mkfs.cramfs mer-base-rootfs hi3716m_rootfs.cramfs. | 13:48 |
| lbt | http://www.kernel.org/doc/readme/fs-cramfs-README | 13:48 |
| sonach | lbt: what do you mean? | 13:48 |
| lbt | what kernel version | 13:48 |
| lbt | "urrently, mkcramfs #define's PAGE_CACHE_SIZE as 4096 and uses that for blksize, whereas Linux-2.3.39 uses its PAGE_CACHE_SIZE, which in turn is defined as PAGE_SIZE (which can be as large as 32KB on arm)" | 13:48 |
| sonach | lbt: Linux version 2.6.35.7_hi3716m (zqhuan@localhost.localdomain) (gcc version 4.4.1 (Hisilicon_v200(gcc4.4-290+glibc-2.11+eabi+nptl)) ) #1 Fri Nov 25 08:5 | 13:49 |
| sonach | 9:50 CST 2011 | 13:49 |
| lbt | OK - ta | 13:49 |
| sonach | lbt: it is 2.6.35.7 | 13:49 |
| sonach | lbt: what'is compr_len? is it the size of my cramfs? | 13:51 |
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| lbt | reading the code I'm guessing it's the (un?)compressed length of a cramfs file | 13:52 |
| lbt | compr_len = (*(u32 *) cramfs_read(sb, blkptr_offset, 4) - start_offset); | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: can i see the command you wrote the cramfs to flash with? | 13:53 |
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| lbt | let me co the correct kernel version | 13:53 |
| lbt | no, it's a chunk of filesystem | 13:55 |
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| lbt | those numbers seem very large too - corruption? | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i was thinking not-zeroed blocks | 13:59 |
| lbt | yeah ... | 14:01 |
| sonach | Stskeeps, wait a minute, | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | ok, no rush :) | 14:04 |
| sonach | Stskeeps, http://pastie.org/3224927 | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | ok, and that is u-boot | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 14:07 |
| sonach | it calls "fastboot" | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:08 |
| lbt | -> food ... bbiab | 14:10 |
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| sonach | lbt: what do you mean by "it's a chunk of filesystem"? | 14:11 |
| lbt | reading the code, the values you get 417793690 and 3329639899 represent the length of a 'chunk' of the filesystem | 14:13 |
| lbt | these are supposed to be less than about 8K | 14:14 |
| lbt | it doesn't tell us a huge amount other than we're reading bad data | 14:15 |
| sonach | Reading bad data? Maybe the command I wrote the cramfs to flash is wrong? | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: and hi3716m_rootfs.cramfs is smaller than 60817408 bytes? | 14:16 |
| lbt | possible causes are incompatible mkcramfs (not likely) or corruption (possible - can you do a nand read and compare the result to the nand write?) or some issue in writing | 14:16 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: he said 47M earlier | 14:17 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: 47333376 | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | ok, commands look fine then | 14:18 |
| sonach | lbt: Now I understand what you said. | 14:18 |
| * lbt wonders what write.yaffs could do other than dd | 14:18 | |
| sonach | Stskeeps, what is the different between write.yaffs and write? | 14:19 |
| sonach | there is not command like "write.cramfs" at all... | 14:19 |
| lbt | and just using write.yaffs with a cramfs image... | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | either way | 14:19 |
| lbt | (assuming you can't brick it) | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | we shouldn't use cramfs, it's read-only | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: do you have mkyaffs2image ? | 14:20 |
| lbt | ROFL | 14:20 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: no mkyaffs2image. On my ubuntu11.10, I cannot install mkfs.yaffs/ysffs2, so I didnot try yaffs2, | 14:21 |
| lbt | anyhow. really, food | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, let me look for yaffs2 in ubuntu | 14:21 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Do you strongly recommend me to make a yaffs2 filesystem? | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: well, cramfs is read-only which isn't going to make Mer happy | 14:23 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Why? | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: because it relies on being able to write to root file system during bootup | 14:23 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: Mer will write something to rootfs when mounting? | 14:23 |
| sonach | hmm | 14:24 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I decide to use cramfs because the whole flash size is only 128MB. I doubt it is not enough for yaffs2. | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | maybe jffs2? it has compression | 14:26 |
| lbt | Mer shouldn't really write to / | 14:26 |
| lbt | what does it write? | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: think /home /tmp .. | 14:26 |
| lbt | agreed - but in general a ro / is a good goal | 14:27 |
| lbt | and if we define what is rw then we can handle that using either a tiny rw or tmpfs | 14:27 |
| lbt | or something | 14:27 |
| lbt | I'm not saying version 1.0 though .... just a general point - it's really nice to be able to reflash / and not lose anything | 14:28 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: When cramfs is compressed, Even it is not read-only, how do Mer write to /home or /tmp? | 14:28 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: i think most people do a combination of cramfs and unionfs when they use cramfs | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | either way, cramfs is not good for flash, if there is one bad block it ceases to function | 14:29 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: well, no command like "mkfs.jffs2" is found on ubuntu11.10... | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: that one is easier to solve.. it's in package mtd-tools | 14:31 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK. It is my own work to make jffs2 image:) | 14:31 |
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| Stskeeps | i think your hisilicon manual probably talks about mkfs.jffs2 :) | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | at least i found a manual that describes it | 14:34 |
| phaeron | lbt: there's a gma500 driver in 3.2 | 14:35 |
| phaeron | kms | 14:35 |
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| lbt | phaeron: pretty sure it's not accelerated | 14:36 |
| phaeron | I think the acceleration is xorg side ? | 14:36 |
| lbt | mmm | 14:37 |
| lbt | OK | 14:37 |
| lbt | I saw it in the config | 14:37 |
| phaeron | well it says 2D KMS framebuffer | 14:37 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps, I am trying jffs2, I will report the result ASAP | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok | 14:37 |
| phaeron | maybe 2D means not accelerated | 14:37 |
| lbt | phaeron: it does | 14:37 |
| lbt | we need the drm/dri stuff | 14:37 |
| lbt | drm is the kernel side | 14:38 |
| phaeron | kms is used for mode setting afair | 14:39 |
| phaeron | then there is another stub driver that depends on a poulsbo.ko | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, phaeron: http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/track/crossdistribution_devroom , second day | 14:41 |
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| lbt | phaeron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/#Psb_gfx_drivers_.28promising_for_Precise_12.04.29 | 14:43 |
| lbt | which basically gives OSS but 2D only | 14:43 |
| phaeron | lbt: ok | 14:43 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: which one is of interest :) | 14:44 |
| lbt | thanks though :) | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: obs, obs, obs.. | 14:44 |
| smoku | lbt: could you take a look at https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Asmoku%3ACordia%3AUtils ? Why does it say that repository publishing is disabled? | 14:44 |
| lbt | Adrian's | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/repositories?package=ccache&project=home%3Asmoku%3ACordia%3AUtils | 14:44 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: the command "mkfs.jffs2 –d ./meego-mer-core-armv7l-base-1.2.90.20120119.2151/ -l –e 0x20000 -o hi3716m_rootfs.jffs2" seems very very slow... Is something wrong?? | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: no, that's normal | 14:44 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: ouch. thanks :) | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: it compresses quite heavily | 14:45 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: it gets copied during copypac? | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: seemingily | 14:45 |
| sonach | when I execute "mkfs.jffs2 --root=meego-mer-core-armv7l-base-1.2.90.20120119.2151/ --output=hi3716m_rootfs.jffs2", It is very fast, | 14:45 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: i think it's because -l -e sets it to have eraseblocks | 14:46 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: which is needed for NAND | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | -l, --little-endian | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | Create a little-endian JFFS2 image. Default is to make an image with the same endianness as the host. | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | -e, --eraseblock=SIZE | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | Use erase block size SIZE. The default is 64 KiB. If you use a erase block size different than the erase block size of the target MTD device, JFFS2 may not perform optimally. If the SIZE specified is below 4096, the units are assumed to be KiB. | 14:46 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK. I should wait... another question: does fastboot support NFS? | 14:52 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: not sure about fastboot :) but there shouldn't be much problem in booting mer from NFS with a initrd or the likes, for easier development | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | probably a good guide for lbt to make at some point | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | we did it with meego and N900 | 14:54 |
| lbt | *g* | 14:54 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: so currently, mer cannot boot from NFS? | 15:05 |
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| lbt | nothing prevents it - that's a kernel config | 15:05 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: hehe, the mkfs.jffs2 stuff is still working, it takes about half an hour... | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i consider it a bit over in hardware adaptation :) there should be nothing that stops it | 15:06 |
| sonach | OK. NFS is another choice later for development:) | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:07 |
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| smoku | are you going to copy relevant documentation from MeeGo wiki to Mer wiki? | 15:09 |
| lbt | smoku: are you volunteering? | 15:10 |
| smoku | lbt: yes | 15:11 |
| lbt | great - thanks | 15:11 |
| smoku | any guidelines, or whatever I feel like? :) | 15:11 |
| lbt | well, not en-masse | 15:11 |
| smoku | where to? some namespace/category? | 15:12 |
| lbt | what pages were you thinking of? | 15:12 |
| smoku | I'm asking because I needed to google Spectacle documentation *once again* on meego wiki | 15:12 |
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| lbt | cool - http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:About | 15:13 |
| lbt | see http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/About_category_guidelines | 15:13 |
| lbt | also ... http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00137.html | 15:14 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: feel free to transfer that to somewhere, yeah | 15:15 |
| smoku | I'm not that familiar with mediawiki | 15:15 |
| smoku | should I create http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:Spectacle:Spectacle ? or somewhere else? | 15:16 |
| lbt | read the links first | 15:16 |
| smoku | is Category: a namespace, or some magic grouping query? | 15:16 |
| lbt | they have details of what to create and how to do it | 15:16 |
| smoku | lbt: the point is I do not understand how Category:About works | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: it's just a tag you put in the bottom of a page | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | the "About_category_guidelines" page illustrates how people should use it | 15:17 |
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| smoku | 'Create a normal Category page and [...]' - this may be obvious for someone familiar with mediawiki | 15:18 |
| lbt | hmm | 15:19 |
| smoku | but I do not know how to create a category page | 15:19 |
| lbt | let me clarify it a bit | 15:19 |
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| lbt | yep, smoku I see the problem | 15:19 |
| lbt | my fault | 15:19 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: the mkfs.jffs2 command is bad. since the output is about 30GB now!! I interrupt this command. And I find that if I specify "-l" the size of hi3716m_rootfs.jffs2 will increase quickly!! | 15:20 |
| smoku | I come from DokuWiki, and I'm a bit lost ;-) | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: that doesn't sound right indeed | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: let me just try to do the same here | 15:22 |
| sonach | StsKeeps: --root=DIR --output=file is not equal to "-d DIR -o file"! | 15:23 |
| smoku | lbt: is mediawiki flat, or can I crate hierarchy ? | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i assume you didnt by accident have /proc and /dev/pts or /sys mounted inside the directory? | 15:25 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Now the work is finished. I just replase "-d DIR" with "--root=DIR" and alike... | 15:26 |
| sonach | and I will try to burn flash now, | 15:26 |
| sonach | It is very strange... | 15:26 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok - i think you managed to get a unicode character in by accident, your copy of the command contained a long "-" | 15:27 |
| Stskeeps | not a short one | 15:27 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I examine my command. Exactly what you said!! | 15:28 |
| sonach | I copy the command from the Chinese manual so with a long "-". | 15:28 |
| lbt | smoku: try this now http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/About_category_guidelines | 15:30 |
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| smoku | lbt: got it now :) | 15:32 |
| lbt | good - thanks for insisting :) | 15:33 |
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| lbt | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=arm_mali_reverse | 15:37 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i haven't been able to spot the actual talk.. | 15:38 |
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| lbt | keep an eye out .. or ask paulsherwood.... | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, ok | 15:41 |
| smoku | lbt: so, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Spectacle is fine? | 15:41 |
| lbt | looking | 15:41 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: also there is the big question about vendors using those drivers and doing products with them.. | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | patents and so on | 15:41 |
| lbt | hmm - why not start a 'copying meego wiki page' smoku - you did the right thing to copy the original, attribute and edit | 15:42 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yes, it struck me as an 'interesting' area | 15:42 |
| lbt | smoku: yes, looks good. | 15:43 |
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| lbt | smoku: you could do http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:FIXME by the tools area links too | 15:43 |
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| * Stskeeps glances at his new n9 | 15:44 | |
| lbt | and thanks | 15:44 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: really... | 15:44 |
| lbt | blatant ... | 15:44 |
| smoku | lbt: you mean a page to track meego wiki copying progress? | 15:44 |
| lbt | smoku: that too - I meant mainly to note that we should attribute source | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i have to get a microsim first, but in all honesty, the signal strength on n950 is crap fr me :P | 15:44 |
| * lbt looks at phaeron and growls | 15:45 | |
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| phaeron | :( | 15:46 |
| smoku | lbt: you mean like a note in the footer? I don't quite get what you mean exactly ;-) | 15:46 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: I just got Lumia800 and it looks... niiiceee... makes me wanna get N9 too ;-) | 15:48 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: When I write jffs2 to flash, encounter error: http://pastie.org/3225313. And message when mounting rootfs is http://pastie.org/3225332. | 15:49 |
| sonach | Is there something wrong with my mkfs.jffs2 command?> | 15:49 |
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| lbt | anyone want to buy a lumia ? | 15:50 |
| lbt | smoku: we should have a page called "Importing meego wiki" | 15:50 |
| lbt | and it should document what you did for the spectacle page | 15:51 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: hmmm | 15:51 |
| smoku | lbt: oh. OK. got it :) | 15:51 |
| lbt | some people would not remember to attribute | 15:51 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: try with write.jffs2 ? | 15:51 |
| lbt | you're right that it could also have a list of pages we'd like to import and have already imported (with a link( | 15:51 |
| sonach | I have tried it, same error, | 15:52 |
| * lbt goes back to drm | 15:52 | |
| Stskeeps | sonach: and the command line you used to mkfs.jffs2 == ? | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | is what, i mean | 15:52 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: sudo mkfs.jffs2 --root=meego-mer-core-armv7l-base-1.2.90.20120119.2151/ --little-endian --eraseblock=0x20000 --output hi3716m_rootfs.jffs2 | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | looks correct | 15:53 |
| sonach | Stskeeps, this command is equal to what is provided by hisilicon's manual... | 15:53 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: "Attempt to write non page aligned data" is the problem? | 15:54 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I don't quite familiar with jffs2 or alike... | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ls -l hi3716m_rootfs.jffs2 | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | how big? | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | (in bytes) | 15:57 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps, 51270272 | 15:58 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: is the file size relevant? | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yes, the error means that it's not aligned with eraseblocks | 16:01 |
| Stskeeps | so i'm just reading some documentation on how to proceed | 16:01 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: try to add '-p' parameter to mkfs.jffs2 | 16:03 |
| sonach | OK | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | this will pad it to erase block size | 16:06 |
| sonach | OK | 16:06 |
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| smoku | lbt: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Importing_meego_wiki | 16:13 |
| lbt | ta | 16:13 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: It seems that the rootfs works! but I don't quite confirm that: http://pastie.org/3225537 | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, now we're at a better state :) | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: where is your config flags that need to be enabled? | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: what next is that you need to enable some settings in your kernel Mer needs/systemd needs | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | Failed to mount /dev: No such device indicates you need something called DEVTMPFS | 16:19 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: currently in the DATA section at the end of the script - matches http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide#Kernel | 16:20 |
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| lbt | sonach: we have a script that verifies your config matches that page | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide#Kernel - you need to add CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y and CONFIG_GROUPS=y | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | at least | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | after that kernel has built, it should continue to boot | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: to get rid of the CLEANMARKER warnings, add '-n' option | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | (--no-cleanmarkers) | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | to mkfs.jffs2 | 16:22 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK, so first I should rebuild the kernel with "CONFIG_DEVTMPTS=y" etc; second I should copy drivers of hi3716m to /lib/modules. Is that right? | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 16:24 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: but I don't know why "Failed to open /dev/kmsg for logging: No such file or directory" ? | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: that's normal, it comes with CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | the fix comes with, i mean | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | the important error is the one about /dev | 16:25 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK! Thank you & lbt very much for help:) | 16:26 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I will try it tomorrow. It's 00:25 of my localtime and I should goto sleep:) | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | good night | 16:26 |
| lbt | night | 16:26 |
| sonach | See you:) | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: one more for the hardware guide.. utilizing ubifs | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | it's my impression that the merits of ubifs hasn't reached many embedded companies | 16:35 |
| lbt | *nod* | 16:35 |
| lbt | I was thinking something along those lines as we discussed | 16:35 |
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| Stskeeps | if there's no objections, i'll start the prep for a final release of 0.20120120 | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | think we've established any regressions seen in images weren't caused by core changes | 17:00 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, I was hoping to get conf from mdfe_ on his PA next image but not seen it yet | 17:05 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 17:09 |
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| Stskeeps | i personally tested with nemo on n900 and exopc | 17:10 |
| Stskeeps | 4.8.0 will be the stable qt for a long time to come anyway | 17:10 |
| Stskeeps | any if anyone wants to 'stay' on old core, that's entirely possible | 17:10 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: what about the nemo input problems? | 17:11 |
| w00t | or were they unrelated | 17:11 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: the problematic ones were reverted, and the other ones were attributable to systemui / libmeegotouch upgrade cpu usage | 17:13 |
| w00t | heh | 17:14 |
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| w00t | cpu usage? | 17:14 |
| w00t | it uses more, or? | 17:14 |
| Stskeeps | no, there's a bug | 17:14 |
| Stskeeps | pixmap / status bar sharing in a secure manner | 17:14 |
| w00t | ah.. great. | 17:14 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: yes saw the tweet :) | 17:17 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: :( | 17:17 |
| Stskeeps | i still need to really confirm it's because of the upgrade but i tried qml components without difficulty | 17:18 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: that is cause of something in the core-next as it works fine in the last release :( | 17:18 |
| Sage | MTF packages are the same in Thursdays release and in those core-next images | 17:18 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: hmm | 17:19 |
| Sage | I didn't do any updates after Thursday to repos so only thing changed is the core AFAIK | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | well, at least the systemui issue exists in thursday image too | 17:20 |
| Sage | it does? | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | at least veskuh claimed so | 17:21 |
| Sage | well, I installed that image on N900 and N950 and didn't see any problems | 17:21 |
| * Sage gets his n950 | 17:21 | |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't always show that easily, for me, on x86, it shows by a stuck 'charger not connected' | 17:21 |
| Sage | well, I have used my n950 with 19.1 release now day and rebooted several times without problems | 17:23 |
| Sage | checked also top and no cpu usage | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | odd | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps it's because the x libraries run better, or something | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NR57ELY28s&feature=player_embedded#! , btw | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: this does show why we need per-change QA/automatic tests though | 17:27 |
| Stskeeps | it's bloody difficult to root cause a full release :) | 17:27 |
| Sage | :nod: | 17:28 |
| Sage | But in my tests I would say that this is caused by change in core | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | right | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | i think i'll release the core and we'll have to patch it when we find out more what happens | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | if anything, we've learnt a lesson | 17:28 |
| Sage | if you can verify that to test e.g. ix86 image that would be cnice | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | i tested the x86 image earlier, at least | 17:28 |
| Sage | sounds reasonable | 17:29 |
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| Stskeeps | i think i'll switch method to that the moment i first pick up changes, that becomes a prerelease | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | so we have the ability to make images way earlier | 17:32 |
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| Stskeeps | .. or something | 17:32 |
| * Stskeeps has to think | 17:32 | |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux | 17:33 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: what if we would make prerelase after every merged change? | 17:33 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: can I copypac package from Mer | 17:36 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, missed that | 17:36 |
| smoku | ? | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: copypac Mer:fake:Core:i586 packagename | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: just happened | 17:37 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: thx | 17:38 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: any idea why this does not come up on COBS search? | 17:38 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I will be picking up the IMG and BOSS tasks next week I hope | 17:42 |
| lbt | I want to wrap up the HA properly | 17:42 |
| lbt | including the kernel checks and packaging (would have caught sonach's config problem) | 17:42 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: it's a remote obs | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: technically | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok | 17:51 |
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| phaeron | I can help with that | 18:03 |
| phaeron | so we can divide the work | 18:03 |
| lbt | sounds good | 18:04 |
| lbt | we have a machine from stefan that's not being used | 18:04 |
| lbt | i'd earmarked it for VMs for wiki | 18:04 |
| lbt | but IMG may be a better use | 18:04 |
| lbt | first.... /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/emgd/drm/emgd_drv.c:2371:2: error: too many arguments to function 'drm_pci_init' | 18:05 |
| lbt | why can't drivers define *something* about what kernel version they expect to work with | 18:05 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: I need Pango built with gobject-introspection | 18:07 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: for now I will just rebuild it, but maybe we can think of something better | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: that's normal, yeah | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: in practice, we do imagine that vendors will modify core | 18:08 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: it may break things if someone upgrades to Mer package until Cordia catches up | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: yeah.. generally we speak of it as running your own 'core' program | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | and hoping to make this a lot more lightweight in the future | 18:09 |
| lbt | I'm hoping git pull --rebase | 18:10 |
| vgrade | lbt, you always know what kernel a driver needs, "not the one you want it too" | 18:11 |
| lbt | yeah | 18:11 |
| lbt | this ie emgd-drm.tgz btw | 18:12 |
| lbt | and 2.6.38.4 is "not it, please guess again" | 18:12 |
| lbt | shall we try 3.1 folks ? | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | 3.0 may be more likely? | 18:14 |
| vgrade | v1.10 | 18:14 |
| lbt | vgrade: yes | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't it say it in README.txt? | 18:14 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/source/kernel/ | 18:14 |
| lbt | and no | 18:14 |
| lbt | what README ? | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | the emgd one | 18:14 |
| lbt | yeah ... what README | 18:15 |
| vgrade | pdf mentions 2.6.37 but thats for the older xorg | 18:15 |
| lbt | it may say in the tarball I extracted the tarball from | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | check what version the IVI kernel has in meego 1.2/1.3.. | 18:16 |
| lbt | bmc is down | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | repo.meego.com.. | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:16 |
| lbt | ah... back now | 18:16 |
| lbt | true | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | it's not me this time i hope, i transfer data with 750kb/s rate limit | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | (importing the new mer release) | 18:17 |
| lbt | hehe | 18:17 |
| lbt | I'm not using meego stuff | 18:17 |
| lbt | it's too undocumented | 18:17 |
| lbt | and scattered | 18:17 |
| lbt | the intel official tarball says 2.6.37 | 18:18 |
| lbt | but it also says Xorg 1.9.X | 18:19 |
| vgrade | the wayland dir | 18:19 |
| lbt | and provides an Xorg 1.10 | 18:19 |
| lbt | yes | 18:19 |
| lbt | the wayland dir | 18:19 |
| lbt | provides binaries with no comments | 18:19 |
| lbt | embedded in rpms | 18:19 |
| w00t | typical.. | 18:19 |
| lbt | however, the X driver works with Mer's X | 18:20 |
| vgrade | 2209 rings a bell with the ivi kernel patches | 18:20 |
| lbt | 3226 ? | 18:21 |
| lbt | of course by the time anyone has navigated the maze they are so lost that they say "fuck it it works" and post a youtube video as proof and then get pissed and forget how they did it | 18:22 |
| lbt | eh vgrade? | 18:22 |
| vgrade | I can remember just used the bits and pieces from ivi kernel and emgd meego package | 18:23 |
| lbt | I did look - there was no attribution of the binaries | 18:24 |
| vgrade | now that only worked with a particular kernel version, Xorg version | 18:24 |
| lbt | I downloaded the ppa versions from ubuntu | 18:24 |
| lbt | that claims (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo ) to work on 3.0.0 | 18:25 |
| vgrade | once you want to use another kernel version or xorg version you have to start all over again | 18:25 |
| lbt | but I don't have joggler patches for that | 18:25 |
| lbt | vgrade: yep - so having found a suitable Xorg driver I'm trying to get other code from the same tarball to work | 18:25 |
| vgrade | ok yes seems sane. But the patches you have don't match the kernel | 18:27 |
| vgrade | you want to use | 18:27 |
| lbt | well, it's an out-of-tree driver | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | 2.6.37 | 18:29 |
| lbt | so it should be a lot more flexible than patches | 18:29 |
| vgrade | so you have to become an expert in X, drm, dri, Linux kernel memory management to forward port the patches or use a kernel version the patch was made from | 18:29 |
| lbt | pretty much | 18:29 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK | 18:29 |
| vgrade | no wonder I want to forget all that | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | FWIW, yocto seems to carry emgd patches as well | 18:30 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: from what I see there are no patches | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so, horror | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:30 |
| lbt | I meant it in a kind of good way | 18:31 |
| lbt | it's 'just' an out-of-tree module | 18:31 |
| lbt | and it actually almost builds with my HA kernel-devel package too | 18:31 |
| lbt | so moving back to 2.6.37 will let me fix a couple of broken symlinks in -devel | 18:32 |
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| vgrade | and being Mer modules are allowed unlike MeeGo | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | allowed but not recommended, rather, it's HA, we don't really care :P | 18:40 |
| vgrade | lbt, I did make an attempt at documentation but as always you can never have enough, http://wiki.meego.com/User:Vgrade#Joggler_Image_based_on_kernel-adaptation-intel-automotive_and_new_MeeGo_packaged_EMGD_Driver | 18:43 |
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| lbt | vgrade: OK ... useful thanks | 18:44 |
| vgrade | that was based on the IVI way of doing things with kernel patches so not so relevant to the new kernel module methid | 18:45 |
| lbt | yep | 18:49 |
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| lbt | -> tango (again) .... until tomorrow | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | have a good one :) | 19:41 |
| lbt | always :D | 19:41 |
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| Stskeeps | evening jstaniek_ | 20:12 |
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| phaeron | did mer core just get switched ? | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | bad time? | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:16 |
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| phaeron | nah , was just starting to get worried the OBS was broken | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:17 |
| phaeron | now I can go make coffee :) | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | i botched the release once, out of disk space | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | but now it's all better.. | 20:18 |
| phaeron | ok :) | 20:19 |
| phaeron | so I went through the core + adaptation + plasma active I think this is quiet promising | 20:20 |
| phaeron | I have a better feel of what vendors might want | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | just a lot of work to be done first, but we already have something quite nice if we get basics going | 20:21 |
| phaeron | based on a minimal mer core, we could use kickstarts to install everything too. using a script to parse it or something | 20:22 |
| phaeron | not sure if that would be helpful | 20:22 |
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| Stskeeps | could be a slippery slope of user expecting a finished system | 20:23 |
| beford | herro | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | herro beford | 20:27 |
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| phaeron | stupid battery died | 20:28 |
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| beford | Stskeeps, does the mer kernel support gadgetfs ? | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | there's no mer kernel :) | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | on what device, rather? | 20:31 |
| timoph | still couldn't get sb2 to work with mer's toolchain :( | 20:31 |
| beford | n900 :P | 20:31 |
| beford | oh yea, I meant nemomobile, wrong channel | 20:32 |
| timoph | works with codesourcery though | 20:32 |
| timoph | damn. it's been a while since I last used my n810. i used be a fast typist with this. not anymore | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: yeah, it probably doesn't work nicely outside mer, it seems | 20:33 |
| timoph | could be | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | i presume you didn't try inside the chroot? | 20:35 |
| timoph | no | 20:35 |
| timoph | just the usuall sb2 way | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:35 |
| timoph | so you're thinking chrooting to mer's rootfs might work? | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | yes, and installing sb2 and the cross compiler into that | 20:37 |
| timoph | I'll try that next | 20:37 |
| Stskeeps | k | 20:38 |
| timoph | I wonder what's needed to make it work w/o chrooting | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | i'm browsing around in my codesourcery too | 20:40 |
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| Stskeeps | seems like it's possible to statically link mpfr | 20:45 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: with sb2 and the right tools distro it's possible to do it without chrooting.. | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: hmmm.. | 20:49 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/sb2-tools-distro.tar.gz | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | point to that sb2-tools-distro/ directory with -t <PATH> when doing sb2-init | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | or was it -T .. well, whatever points to the tools directory | 20:53 |
| timoph | ack. I'll try that in the morning | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | time for some sleep soon for me | 21:02 |
| timoph | yeah. already 23 here so I'm off to bed | 21:03 |
| timoph | today's bed time book: dive into python | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 21:04 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm, probably very late to ask anyone here, but anyone who's burning for QA? | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | and heading that up | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | we have a rather large base of code and tests to start from | 21:10 |
| phaeron | as in automated QA ? | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | for example, yeah - but also test cases for people to run through | 21:11 |
| phaeron | I would be interested in the automated QA. deploying OTS or similar is on my list | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:12 |
| phaeron | for mer it's basically "does it boot" ? | 21:13 |
| phaeron | but even that depends on the hardware adaptaion | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | i think it's a bit more advanced, we also need to determine exactly what we test | 21:14 |
| phaeron | well testing the toolchain is interesting. | 21:15 |
| phaeron | I am thinking mer only , nothing else. | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | yes, of course, and same tools useful for vendors too | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | even if we're only 322 packages, it is still a lot to test through | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | should probably prioritize how much gets tested | 21:17 |
| Stskeeps | qt, qtwebkit, qt mobility are the biggies | 21:17 |
| phaeron | hmm | 21:18 |
| phaeron | something like qtdemos + tdriver | 21:18 |
| Stskeeps | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb is what ~mer atm | 21:19 |
| w00t | i do think that automated vendor testing is an interesting (and perhaps more rewarding, long term) idea.. i.e. does this image boot to a ux, and can i run y test applications, and perform z testcases on them | 21:20 |
| phaeron | Yes, I agree. the main problem is how to get image --> device | 21:22 |
| w00t | well, a VM would be a nice start (and probably easier to automate) | 21:23 |
| w00t | past that you start getting into device specifics i guess | 21:23 |
| Stskeeps | that's actually not a bad idea, what if vendors could report code coverage back on the mer packages? | 21:23 |
| Stskeeps | er, test coverage | 21:23 |
| phaeron | w00t: I guess with the llvm stuff Stskeeps is working on , that is actually almost possible now | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | for x86 for sure | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | just for the logs: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Cross_002dprofiling.html#Cross_002dprofiling | 21:34 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe | 21:49 |
| w00t | haha | 21:50 |
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| phaeron | I was only able to get something viewable at max-depth=1 | 21:51 |
| Venemo | phaeron, :D | 22:02 |
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| Venemo | phaeron, couldn't you just copy the necessary packages from Fedora? | 22:04 |
| phaeron | I could , but even that would take a lot of time :D | 22:04 |
| phaeron | maybe not tonight :) | 22:05 |
| Venemo | or you could write a script that has rpm list the full dependency list, copies the spec files to a Mer chroot and rebuilds them there | 22:05 |
| phaeron | probably cobs will do the building | 22:08 |
| phaeron | :D | 22:08 |
| Venemo | whatever :P | 22:09 |
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| phaeron | Venemo: it does feel like stealing effort though | 22:26 |
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| Venemo | phaeron, why? | 22:28 |
| phaeron | someone does all the effort and I steal it | 22:28 |
| Venemo | reusing someone's free software is not stealing IMO | 22:29 |
| phaeron | I just have to make sure to properly attribute | 22:29 |
| Venemo | indeed. | 22:29 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: new repo missing patterns ? | 22:39 |
| Stskeeps | shouldn't..? | 22:39 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120120.1/builds/i586/packages/repodata/048a6e51b8de3c2f168c27333249cf85b491d9ab8bc86e6e3d0d01f3cf6b1240-group.xml | 22:40 |
| Stskeeps | does createrepo support patterns? | 22:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:40 |
| Venemo | good night guys | 22:40 |
| phaeron | night | 22:40 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: zypper se -t pattern doesn't show them .. | 22:41 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: ok, i see it, but it would have to go to next release | 22:41 |
| phaeron | kickstarts depending on them will fail | 22:41 |
| Stskeeps | --pkgmgr=zypp doesn't work anyway | 22:41 |
| phaeron | I don't have a problem personally :) | 22:41 |
| phaeron | so yum will see them ? | 22:42 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: can you file a task bug listing bottom of http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation for me? | 22:42 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 22:42 |
| Stskeeps | groups.xml | 22:42 |
| phaeron | I mean yum would see them , while zypp doesn't | 22:42 |
| Stskeeps | right | 22:43 |
| phaeron | sure will report a bug | 22:43 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: 131 | 22:46 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 22:46 |
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