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| lbt | won't work AFAIL | 00:00 |
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| lbt | KISS for now eh? | 00:00 |
| phaeron | which part | 00:00 |
| lbt | obs build of a 64it kernel in i586 Mer | 00:00 |
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| phaeron | mm | 00:03 |
| phaeron | ok | 00:03 |
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| phaeron | lots of drivers need to be turned off. maybe the sample adaptation should start from allnoconfig | 00:20 |
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| lbt | yeah | 00:32 |
| lbt | ok,,,, bed now :) | 00:32 |
| lbt | o/ | 00:32 |
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| phaeron | o/ | 00:35 |
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| Stskeeps | morning | 05:47 |
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| Stskeeps | Iso: if you're a hacker type, you can combine Mer + the exoPC hardware adaptation + some UI of your choice, like Nemo, Plasma Active or something completely of your own | 05:47 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning sonach | 05:54 |
| sonach | good morning stskeeps. | 05:55 |
| Stskeeps | how is it going with trying out the base image? | 05:56 |
| sonach | A news first。I have dicussed the idea of "being one of Mer's interest groups" with key persons of our organization. They all agreed this. Of course, We haven't contributed anything to Mer, so we still need hard work to achive this. | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it's possible still to register as an interest group to indicate you're here and interested in Mer, and then over time gain contributors | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | people listen no matter what :) | 05:59 |
| sonach | We will hold a meeting with 6 TV vendors in the middle of February, and plan to propose this to others. I am confident that we can do something for Mer:) | 06:02 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 06:03 |
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| sonach | a trivial question: what's your local time now? and what's lbt's local time now? | 06:04 |
| Stskeeps | it's 7:04am my local time and lbt is at 6:04am | 06:04 |
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| sonach | OK. how to register as an interest group? | 06:06 |
| sonach | I don't see any information on http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Governance_draft. | 06:07 |
| dm8tbr | möin | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | basically, sending me an email with a name of the group and who's the representative (full name) and email, and if you want a mailing list on lists.merproject.org for your interest group to use | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | we don't really have a community manager in Mer project yet, so i do that task | 06:08 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: i'll add that procedure to the mailing list | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | er, to the governance draft | 06:09 |
| beford | hey Stskeeps, good morning. do you have in hand one of those .ks that boots mer with qmlviewer on the n900? | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | not for n900 but it's fairly easy to piece together | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | take a nemo one, strip away the package groups for Nemo UI, install qt-qmlviewer in %packages and change default session | 06:12 |
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| beford | let me try | 06:16 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: by the way, those MIPS systems you spoke about, do you know if they're MIPS32 or MIPS64? | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | (MSTAR) | 06:21 |
| sonach | StsKeeps: I don't tell it right now. We are in the progress of presuding MSTAR and MTK. I don't know who will enter at the end. if MTK, then no MIPS; If MSTAR, I will tell you at that time. | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | i was looking at my MIPS port and realized we can't use N32/N64 ABI as that will only work on 64-bit MIPS, and in fact most set top boxes uses 32-bit :) | 06:28 |
| sonach | And still, you can go to MSTAR's website to do this. And I will ask employee in TV vendor that using MSTAR's platform. But you know, Now they are on vocation right now. | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | so i hope to add MIPS officially in 2 weeks or so, with "O32" (32-bit MIPS) port, but let's see how that goes | 06:29 |
| sonach | ok. there is still a big market share of MIPS for TV/STB. | 06:31 |
| sonach | But ARM maybe will do better and better. As I know from TV vendor, MSTAR is going to discard it's MIPS platform(This is not official news,hehe) | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | i think linaro effort did a lot to make ARM more suitable for TV vendors | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | a lot of good tools | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | it was chaos before | 06:33 |
| sonach | So i think the strategy is: Mer can support MIPS, that's enough. If there are a lot of TV/STB using MIPS in the future, we can do deep work for MIPS. | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | i hope it'll attract people having an android alternative at least - not only in TV/STB, but also maybe in tablet | 06:35 |
| berndhs | i go to sleep, thing of the cats - they did in Schroedinger :) | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | many people were surprised with the 99 USD MIPS tablet | 06:35 |
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| sonach | Yes! "an android alternative" is a great goal!! | 06:36 |
| dubio | yes someone spammed http://www.dailysteals.com/ in another chan and my only thought ws "will it run mer ?" | 06:47 |
| dubio | i'm almost certainly swayed towards ARchos, unless tizenSamsung ends up having vanilla-kernel drivers and isnt some maemo 2.0 | 06:48 |
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| Stskeeps | archos g9 is certainly looking like a nice target | 06:49 |
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| Stskeeps | tizen's devices might be a good choice, at least samsung's, due to the use of x11+glibc | 06:49 |
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| Sage | w00t: yes ux launch is for that, but if systemd can also do that as jonnor_work said we should probably try that instead. With uxlaunch we have problems as it can't prioritse the startup order properly | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | systemd doesn't yet support user sessions properly but upstream contribution most welcome | 07:11 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I am reading vendor's doc. In order to make my own rootfs, I should use busybox. Can Mer support busybox? | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: hmm, you shouldn't need to use busybox | 07:20 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: what then ? | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i have an experiment ongoing where i try mer with busybox, yes, but to make your own rootfs you shouldn't need busybox | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't it say something about mkyaffs2 or alike? | 07:22 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK, I see. | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: basically: find a way for turning a directory into a yaffs2 file system, it shouldn't rely on the actual contents of the file system :) | 07:25 |
| vgrade | Sage, I was refering to to the startactive package witin plasma but I was not aware systemd could not take on this role | 07:32 |
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| vgrade | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=startactive.spec&package=startactive&project=Project%3AKDE%3ATrunk%3ATesting&srcmd5=142c02c6ad5939ad86100dc60c257dbf | 07:33 |
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| Sage | vgrade: yes, only better way atm. is uxlaunch based startup | 07:34 |
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| vgrade | Sage, @Mer Minimal Xorg pulls in xorg-x11-server-Xorg and xauth | 07:41 |
| Sage | vgrade: hmmp | 07:41 |
| Sage | vgrade: that shouldn't bring xorg-x11-server-Xorg anymore | 07:41 |
| * Sage checks | 07:41 | |
| Stskeeps | Sage: turns out the old package groups was taken from package-groups, not core/ | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | in my repo making process | 07:42 |
| Sage | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=blob;f=patterns/mer-minimal-xorg.yaml;h=169624b4a92989d8ebc0ef72e110c47e5b29875a;hb=master | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | i've fixed that now | 07:42 |
| Sage | ah, ok | 07:42 |
| Sage | vgrade: ok so remove that and install pulseaudio-module-x11 and xorg-x11-xauth instead | 07:42 |
| vgrade | ok thanks | 07:44 |
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| harbaum | for the records: "latest" mer + nemo still runs on the beagle. although with minor glithches like the missing wkb | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | ok, we're trying to make it work on panda too | 08:08 |
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| Stskeeps | slaine: ever wandered in MIPS STB's by chance? | 08:48 |
| slaine | Never | 08:48 |
| slaine | What hw you got ? | 08:48 |
| slaine | our STB's are x86 based | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | well, nothing atm | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | but exploring the opportunities for Mer on MIPS | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | and what kind of baseline to start optimizations at | 08:49 |
| slaine | I thought you already had some mips hw | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | well, i have a qemu and a wl-500gp ;) | 08:49 |
| slaine | :) | 08:49 |
| slaine | I've a Cobalt Qube with a MIPS 300 :) | 08:50 |
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| lbt | morning | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 09:17 |
| lbt | just scanning backlog... did you see my config question? | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | no, repeat it? | 09:19 |
| lbt | nice news from sonach too | 09:19 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: for the am .. wondering about making some kind of mer-config.rpm ... combining meego-rpm-config mer-kickstarter-configs and my mer-kernel-check ... keeps the package count down and given it's all managed in git and even a bit related it may make sense | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | maybe | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | mer-kernel-check == tool or config? | 09:21 |
| lbt | currently both | 09:21 |
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| lbt | http://pastie.org/3215050 | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | so, recall that meego-rpm-config is part of the bootstrap set for builds, so it has to be included in the basic cycle | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | ie, very low dependancies | 09:22 |
| lbt | my deps are perl | 09:22 |
| lbt | no more than kernel | 09:22 |
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| lbt | and no modules | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | we don't build kernel in bootstrap either, but just stating my worries :P | 09:23 |
| lbt | sure - is perl in at that level - I thought so | 09:23 |
| lbt | and.... fwiw it would be feasible to re-write in bash | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | it is, but technically, the mer-kernel-check don't BR on it | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | so that's ok | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | just R | 09:24 |
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| lbt | agreed - no BR at all | 09:24 |
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| lbt | slight worry is if anything BR on the configs - eg rpm-config | 09:28 |
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| lbt | because changing something (eg the check-kernel-spec script) would trigger an unneeded rebuild | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 09:30 |
| * lbt senses you need coffee | 09:31 | |
| Stskeeps | a little ill these days, though at the end of it | 09:31 |
| lbt | good | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | i'm importing new prerelease to cobs so | 09:32 |
| lbt | what documentation are you following ... | 09:32 |
| lbt | *g* | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | .bash_history | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:33 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:Mds | 09:33 |
| lbt | that process is (obviously) on my list of vendor-cron | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | i'd like someone to look into making github.com/Merproject -> obs packages for use somehow | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | as that'll be a topic within 2 weeks | 09:39 |
| lbt | so ... I want to get that check into core - where shall I put it? I'm happy to combine all 3 into a config or just standalone for now | 09:39 |
| lbt | that task has been on my todo since I started at nokia... | 09:40 |
| lbt | it's non-trivial | 09:40 |
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| lbt | take a look at all the other packages in the suse project | 09:41 |
| lbt | so we either build against the released version or their (dynamic and non-reproducable) trunk | 09:42 |
| lbt | or we clone and track all their packages (not a killer but...) | 09:42 |
| lbt | ScriptRipper may be able to advise | 09:42 |
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| Stskeeps | SB2-OBS integration is on my list, so | 09:49 |
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| Stskeeps | which is also an enabler for Mer on MIPS | 09:54 |
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| slaine | Is it possible to get the current kernel version from inside a spec file ? | 11:49 |
| slaine | I've got a few kmod source rpms | 11:49 |
| Stskeeps | i guess if you do it against kernel-*-devel package yes | 11:49 |
| slaine | Rather than updating the define for krelease in each spec file for each kernel bump, I was wondering if I could just have it pull it via a shell call, like in a make file you can do $(shell cmd) | 11:50 |
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| lbt | slaine: http://rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/RpmLua ... and see https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=kernel-adaptation-sample.spec&package=kernel-adaptation-sample&project=home%3Albt%3AMer%3ASample%3AHA&srcmd5=7eaa4f08b9ed7b57bf38cddfda134546 line 51- for some usage | 13:38 |
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| slaine | lbt cheers | 13:39 |
| slaine | it's the values going into lines 5-12 I was thinking of | 13:39 |
| lbt | yes, I figured you had another .spec and wanted to find a list of installed kernel versions or something | 13:40 |
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| phaeron1 | lbt: so the kernel builds in about 6 minutes. I am sure I can get it lower | 14:02 |
| lbt | it's easy, use ssd or tmpfs :) | 14:02 |
| phaeron1 | first try I had eth wlan (needed firmware) bluetooth | 14:02 |
| lbt | but it's really not worth optimising ... IMHO | 14:02 |
| phaeron1 | lbt: I meant in cobs | 14:02 |
| phaeron1 | now I am trying to get X | 14:03 |
| lbt | what driver? | 14:03 |
| phaeron1 | intel | 14:03 |
| lbt | 500 ? | 14:03 |
| phaeron1 | not sure yet | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | what laptop is it? | 14:03 |
| phaeron1 | dell | 14:04 |
| phaeron1 | lbt: the guide needs to explain a bit more about how to get the kernel into the image , and also bootloader | 14:04 |
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| phaeron1 | also systemd rescue target didn't work | 14:05 |
| lbt | I agree - not *too* detailed but yes | 14:05 |
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| lbt | I know... I need to check that b4 logging a bug | 14:05 |
| phaeron1 | I had to use getty target | 14:05 |
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| lbt | yeah - they should be the same | 14:05 |
| lbt | not sure what's happening | 14:05 |
| phaeron1 | I think it might be missing a package that installs symlinks | 14:05 |
| phaeron1 | I created them manually | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | ctrl-alt-f2 | 14:05 |
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| phaeron1 | there were no gettys launcher at all | 14:06 |
| lbt | the problem Stskeeps is that a failing X does too many chvt | 14:06 |
| phaeron1 | so I think the base group is missing a package | 14:06 |
| lbt | phaeron1: I saw that too | 14:06 |
| lbt | I just finished the mer-kernel-check package | 14:06 |
| lbt | and my local obs ran out of disk :) | 14:06 |
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| phaeron1 | brb coffe | 14:07 |
| phaeron1 | e | 14:07 |
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| lbt | phaeron: are you having problems with mic & raw images? | 14:26 |
| lbt | adding syslinux into pks | 14:27 |
| phaeron | lbt: no , I created a default loop image | 14:28 |
| lbt | ok | 14:28 |
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| phaeron | and did the bootloader manually | 14:28 |
| lbt | there's a bug and a patch | 14:28 |
| lbt | and I have a sample (easy) bootloader pkg | 14:28 |
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| phaeron | yay qmlviewer started | 15:08 |
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| Stskeeps | woo | 15:08 |
| phaeron | uxlaunch is fubar though | 15:08 |
| lbt | :) | 15:12 |
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| Aard | phaeron: I quite liked it | 15:17 |
| phaeron | Aard: uxlaunch ? | 15:17 |
| Aard | yes | 15:17 |
| phaeron | well it's not working .. complains about pam-console and dies. in a loop | 15:18 |
| phaeron | now I need to install something useful | 15:18 |
| Aard | then you're doing something wrong ;) | 15:18 |
| phaeron | nemo ? | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | nemo sounds like a good target, but figuring out why uxlaunch goes foobar is probably an idea | 15:19 |
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| Stskeeps | why not -f liveusb instead of -f loop, btw? | 15:19 |
| phaeron | yeah I'll do that | 15:21 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: I thought it would be easier to actually install | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | it's usually not :P | 15:21 |
| phaeron | next time I have to go through the usb drive I'll do liveusb | 15:22 |
| phaeron | the main aim was validating lbt's guide with minimal changes | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:22 |
| phaeron | I quite like this adaptation way. meego's spec file and patch and merge.pl were insane | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | uh-huh | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:23 |
| phaeron | using 3.2.1 currently | 15:23 |
| lbt | see https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=mer-kernel-check&project=home%3Albt%3AMer%3ASample%3AHA too | 15:23 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: any feedback on psdk? | 15:37 |
| lbt | I don't think you sent me a link... I figured you'd found a problem :) | 15:39 |
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| Stskeeps | i didn't? | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | i gave you a sdk | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | [17:40] <Stskeeps> lbt: want a chroot with a draft 'platform sdk' (mic, osc, etc)? | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | [17:43] <Stskeeps> http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mer-core-i586-sdk.ks | 15:39 |
| lbt | must have missed it :) | 15:40 |
| lbt | so, no, no feedback | 15:40 |
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| phaeron | so I needed the setuid Xorg instead | 15:47 |
| phaeron | now uxlaunch launches the qmlviewer session | 15:47 |
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| phaeron | nice transitions in the beginning :D | 15:48 |
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| * Stskeeps is happy it's weekend | 17:37 | |
| lbt | me too | 17:37 |
| lbt | tango tonight ... always good | 17:37 |
| lbt | question first though ... how does X work | 17:37 |
| lbt | :D | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | magic? | 17:38 |
| lbt | true | 17:38 |
| lbt | more specifically how does Mer tell X what driver to use | 17:38 |
| lbt | we have no xorg.conf | 17:38 |
| lbt | we do have a .d | 17:38 |
| lbt | but it seems to try/find a number of optiions first | 17:38 |
| lbt | pvr, psb, vesa... | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 17:39 |
| lbt | so ... do I push a "driver" entry into the xorg.d | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | yes, typically | 17:39 |
| lbt | or should I somehow be registering the driver | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | unless it autodetects it | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | for EMGD, you need a xorg.conf.d entry | 17:39 |
| lbt | I'm kinda thinking it may have a magic lookup table | 17:39 |
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| lbt | and I need to downgrade X ? | 17:43 |
| lbt | compiled for 1.9.0, module version = 1.5.1812.... module ABI major version (8) doesn't match the server's version (10) | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | if you look at latest published EMGD tarball, in the wayland/ dir, there is a meego 1.3 compatible xorg driver | 17:43 |
| lbt | OK | 17:44 |
| lbt | Version: 1.10 Release date: November 2011 ? | 17:44 |
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| Stskeeps | possibly | 17:45 |
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| * csdb is sad to read Stskeeps happyness at it being weekend. It reminds him that he's only @ 10AM in his timezone | 17:58 | |
| wmarone_ | good 'ol pacific time zone | 17:59 |
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| vgrade | lbt, bypass bootloader on EFI, http://felipec.wordpress.com/category/howto/ | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: yeah, worst part of international collaborations - people start talking about beer around 10am in ones timezone ;) | 18:24 |
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| lbt | vgrade: hey.... neat | 18:45 |
| lbt | 3.3 eh? | 18:46 |
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| * Stskeeps watches the mer mips port build away happily with sb2 | 19:12 | |
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| timoph | want to document the setup? :p | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | it's surprisingily similar to ARM setup | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | just s/armv7l/mipsel/ | 19:15 |
| timoph | ah | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | no more editing 40+ packages :) | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: did you see the .ks i made for a toolset for platform sdk? | 19:16 |
| timoph | no | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mer-core-i586-sdk.ks | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | started putting some tools together there | 19:16 |
| * timoph downloads | 19:16 | |
| Stskeeps | if you want a tarball of that rootfs, let me know | 19:16 |
| timoph | ok | 19:17 |
| * Stskeeps uploads it | 19:18 | |
| timoph | hmmh. need to go out to buy something to eat. brb | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | k | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mer-core-i586-sdk-test.tar.gz | 19:22 |
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| timoph | Stskeeps: thanks. downloading... | 19:42 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: i'm planning to integrate scratchbox2 and qemu into standard mer downloads when i've managed to get next release out the door, then that should be available there too | 19:43 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, I've been working with the nVidia Tegra SDK over the last couple of weeks. Its based on a ubuntu 10.10. Currently builds are done using scripts and much messing with paths, rewriting .pc files etc. The SDK provides a rootfs of the target and arm toolchain. Looking more at sb2 I'm thinking I could make a much more controllable environment with it. Could sb2 be used in this task? | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: sounds like a typical target, yeah | 19:45 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: what sb2 is good at is combining a toolchain with a target rootfs, and optionally x86 tools | 19:48 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, thanks, we are looking to improve the current environment | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: i would advise you to give sb2 a try the | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | n | 19:50 |
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| vgrade | added to the list | 19:51 |
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| * Stskeeps glances at meego's old featurezilla | 20:12 | |
| timoph | eyeing for good features? | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | well, as you may know, this feature set is fairly close to an actual handset's | 20:13 |
| timoph | yep | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | and it's kinda amazing that's in the wild | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | there's a pretty complete set of SDK requirements too | 20:18 |
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| timoph | :) | 20:21 |
| timoph | hmmh | 20:21 |
| timoph | those reqs should actually be saved before they turn off the lights | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | yes, guess what i just exported :P | 20:22 |
| timoph | :D | 20:22 |
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| phaeron | startin PA on mer .. | 21:45 |
| phaeron | quiet nice .. | 21:56 |
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| stinger2k | hello@all | 22:25 |
| stinger2k | can anyone told me if there´s a running project to precompile an image for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (P7500/7510)? | 22:26 |
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| vgrade | stinger2k, we had some work on original 7" gt, not sure if anyone has started on 10.1 | 22:37 |
| stinger2k | are ther any driver sources for this...? | 22:38 |
| vgrade | driver sources probably not, let me get the link to wiki. Probably a meego reference | 22:38 |
| vgrade | do you have kernel source | 22:39 |
| vgrade | open boot loader | 22:39 |
| vgrade | adaptation relies on a lot of things being available before we can go ahead | 22:40 |
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| vgrade | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2520, as you will see lardman is best placed to answer details | 22:41 |
| vgrade | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Hummingbird#Samsung_Galaxy_Tab | 22:41 |
| vgrade | this is encouraging http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/run-ubuntu-natively-on-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-wi-fi-us/ | 22:44 |
| RaYmAn | SGT 10.1" is pretty much the same as any other tegra2 tablet =P | 22:44 |
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| RaYmAn | iirc, samsung was stupid and essentially released the SBK inside a bootloader.bin update ;) | 22:45 |
| vgrade | RaYmAn, hi, hows things | 22:45 |
| RaYmAn | vgrade: pretty good :P Been busy with ICS and porting random kernels to adam ;P | 22:46 |
| RaYmAn | Crossing fingers I'll manage to get an order in for a raspbpi when they go on sale :P | 22:46 |
| RaYmAn | vgrade: you? :) | 22:47 |
| vgrade | cahnged jobs just before xmas so flat out on that mostly | 22:48 |
| RaYmAn | ah..good job? =P | 22:48 |
| vgrade | big change for me but now doing this stuff ft | 22:49 |
| vgrade | rpi is going to be huge | 22:49 |
| RaYmAn | awesome! | 22:49 |
| RaYmAn | I'd love to get a job where I'd do android/linux/similar stuff for a living =P | 22:50 |
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| vgrade | did you see http://www.gizmag.com/fxi-cotton-candy/20548/ | 22:51 |
| vgrade | _Thomas on here is from there and they are looking for kernel guys | 22:51 |
| _Thomas | Yes, we're looking for kernel guys ;) | 22:52 |
| RaYmAn | ah, awesome :P | 22:52 |
| RaYmAn | It looks so awesome, lol | 22:52 |
| RaYmAn | I love that so many new fairly cheap devices with reasonable power is coming out these days :) | 22:52 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, hi, were you at CES | 22:52 |
| _Thomas | vgrade: Yes | 22:52 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, good response? | 22:53 |
| _Thomas | Great :) | 22:53 |
| vgrade | _Thomas meet RaYmAn, he's been doing kernel dev on Tegra 2 devices | 22:53 |
| RaYmAn | I did notice that job posting actually, lol..But a bit far away =P | 22:53 |
| vgrade | distance is relative on the interweb | 22:54 |
| RaYmAn | "Place of work | 22:54 |
| RaYmAn | * Trondheim" | 22:54 |
| RaYmAn | heh | 22:54 |
| _Thomas | yes, that's correct | 22:55 |
| RaYmAn | _Thomas: the cotton candy looks so awesome :) | 22:55 |
| RaYmAn | vgrade: where did you get employed, if public? :) | 22:56 |
| vgrade | pelagicore | 22:57 |
| RaYmAn | ah, looks cool | 22:57 |
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| vgrade | _Thomas, did you speak to jukka | 22:58 |
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| _Thomas | vgrade: I think so, but he didn't follow up | 22:59 |
| _Thomas | if you're talkibg about kim j? | 23:00 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, sorry, I thought there might be a few ex Nokians who could help | 23:00 |
| vgrade | @jukkaeklund | 23:01 |
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| vgrade | Tampere, Finland | 23:02 |
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| _Thomas | hmm, I didn't talk to him, no | 23:02 |
| vgrade | http://www.linkedin.com/in/jukkaeklund | 23:02 |
| _Thomas | Ah, for helping with finding people? | 23:03 |
| vgrade | yes | 23:03 |
| _Thomas | RaYmAn: So you don't like the idea of moving to Norway? :) | 23:03 |
| _Thomas | vgrade: No, didn't talk to him | 23:03 |
| RaYmAn | _Thomas: I'm not sure my gf would appreciate it much..How's employment rates for nurses up there? :P | 23:04 |
| _Thomas | RaYmAn: There's a shortage | 23:04 |
| _Thomas | RaYmAn: We get nurses from Sweden and Denmark, and even other parts of europe | 23:04 |
| RaYmAn | ah, cool | 23:04 |
| _Thomas | She works as a hospital? | 23:05 |
| RaYmAn | yeah | 23:05 |
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| vgrade | up early tomorrow guys, night | 23:06 |
| _Thomas | RaYmAn: You're based in .dk or? | 23:06 |
| RaYmAn | _Thomas: yeah, copenhagen | 23:06 |
| _Thomas | RaYmAn: 1h30 mins away then | 23:06 |
| _Thomas | direct route every day with plane | 23:06 |
| _Thomas | ;) | 23:07 |
| RaYmAn | heh | 23:07 |
| _Thomas | RaYmAn: http://www.adecco.no/Tools/Pages/WSKjobViewer.aspx?jobId=-464523&navCtx=/ledige-stillinger/finnogsokjobb/pages/default.aspx&layout=Normal&backUrl=/JobbOgKarriere/FinnOgSokJobb/Pages/default.aspx | 23:08 |
| _Thomas | RaYmAn: That's one easy way of starting out with a job as a nurse in Norway | 23:08 |
| RaYmAn | heh | 23:08 |
| RaYmAn | _Thomas: tbh, I'd love to apply, but it's probably not realistic right now..If you guys are looking for open source devs to help out on an "interest basis", do let me know :) | 23:09 |
| RaYmAn | but I gotta go now. Birthday breakfast tomorrow with family, heh | 23:10 |
| _Thomas | RaYmAn: Before june, we'll be wanting people to do dev | 23:10 |
| _Thomas | RaYmAn: Usually nurses earn better here than in Sweden and Denmark | 23:11 |
| RaYmAn | yeah | 23:12 |
| RaYmAn | A good deal of the people she went to school with is working in sweden/norway | 23:12 |
| RaYmAn | because there's a huge lack of jobs here for that :/ | 23:13 |
| _Thomas | what part of the hospital do she work at? | 23:13 |
| RaYmAn | she works for the uhm, ..Not sure how to translate it properly..respirator type thing..lung stuff and sleep apnea | 23:14 |
| _Thomas | Intensive Care? | 23:15 |
| RaYmAn | no, it's more people who has to live with it daily they deal with | 23:15 |
| RaYmAn | like, when they are in recovery and take the respirators home | 23:15 |
| _Thomas | ah | 23:15 |
| _Thomas | Like people who have KOLS | 23:16 |
| RaYmAn | yeah, think so | 23:16 |
| _Thomas | (don't know if it's called that in Danish) | 23:16 |
| RaYmAn | I don't know much about it, because I lack all the background knowledge =P | 23:17 |
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| _Thomas | RaYmAn: My wife is a nurse ;) | 23:17 |
| RaYmAn | ah | 23:17 |
| RaYmAn | :) | 23:17 |
| RaYmAn | It seems like a very common combination :P Geeks & Nurses | 23:18 |
| _Thomas | :D | 23:18 |
| RaYmAn | at my current job, half the people you talk to have gf's/wifes who are nurses, lol | 23:18 |
| _Thomas | But seriously, we're looking for kernel / embedded people | 23:19 |
| _Thomas | and there's lots of positions open for nurses in the area | 23:19 |
| RaYmAn | heh | 23:19 |
| RaYmAn | It sounds really interesting, but I'm not sure it's quite the right time to move to a new country :/ | 23:19 |
| RaYmAn | we just bought an apartment | 23:19 |
| RaYmAn | but anyways, really gotta run now :P gf's whining ;) | 23:20 |
| _Thomas | :) | 23:20 |
| _Thomas | Rent out the appartment for a while ;) | 23:20 |
| RaYmAn | hehe | 23:20 |
| _Thomas | I'm actually not kidding :) | 23:26 |
| _Thomas | We're also in the process in hiring another one from .dk | 23:26 |
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