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| Stskeeps | morn | 06:26 |
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| dm8tbr | Stskeeps Sage - so you guys are putting the tizen sources into COBS? :) | 08:06 |
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| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: just seeing how tied to the platform the WRT is | 08:23 |
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| dm8tbr | k | 08:30 |
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| Stskeeps | ugh bad packaging | 08:34 |
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| Stskeeps | printf("\033[1;31m= WRT: SPANK SPANK SPANK !!! \033[m\n"); | 08:43 |
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| Anssi138 | #define WTF assert | 08:54 |
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| Termana | good morning | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | morn termana | 09:50 |
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| Stskeeps | for those of you interested in Mer Base system and the composition of this, http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/merbase-noglibclibgcc-nobashdeps.png | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | glibc, libgcc, bash deps are implicit and removed | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | deps/edges | 11:39 |
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| phaeron | lbt: great opensuse obs is not working | 12:37 |
| phaeron | I am going to try to use dod | 12:38 |
| phaeron | lbt: can I create it at toplevel ? Debian:6.0 | 12:41 |
| lbt | phaeron: sure | 12:42 |
| lbt | document it though | 12:42 |
| phaeron | lbt: I don't have permission to create that toplevel | 12:42 |
| phaeron | lbt: where do you want the docs to be ? | 12:42 |
| lbt | you're an admin aren't you? | 12:42 |
| phaeron | lbt: no I am not | 12:42 |
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| lbt | slow nw | 12:45 |
| lbt | done | 12:47 |
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| lbt | put something in the Mer wiki under "OBS projects setup" ? | 12:49 |
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| phaeron | ok | 12:51 |
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| Stskeeps | hello 'hey' | 13:23 |
| hey | Hey we are currently looking for the "old" mer debian kernel image for the N8x0 device series. Does anyone know, what had happend to that one? | 13:24 |
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| Stskeeps | still on gitorious somewhere i think | 13:24 |
| lbt | hmmph... my coffee got cold | 13:25 |
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| lbt | mic docs are crap | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | mic or mic2? | 13:31 |
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| lbt | mic2 | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | we have docs? :) | 13:32 |
| lbt | we do .. | 13:32 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Image_Creation | 13:32 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Image_Creation_For_Beginners | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 13:33 |
| lbt | mmm | 13:33 |
| lbt | need syslinux for mer for joggler | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | really? | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | can't you just do -f raw and put grub on the /boot partition? | 13:34 |
| lbt | ah... -f raw | 13:34 |
| lbt | that was probably what I was looking to find in the "docs" | 13:34 |
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| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Image_Creation#Creating_Supported_Image_Types | 13:35 |
| lbt | notice the lack of "raw" | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:35 |
| lbt | I was actually aiming to use mic to create a 'plugin to joggler and boot' image | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | -f raw is the only way to go | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | recall joggler is EFI | 13:36 |
| lbt | yes | 13:36 |
| lbt | I may cheat on the grub build and upload an efiboot tarball to my OBS | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | http://jogglerhacks.blogspot.com/2010/04/grub2-on-joggler.html | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:37 |
| Venemo | hey guys :) | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | lo Venemo | 13:39 |
| lbt | hi Venemo | 13:39 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: so with raw are there any extra keywords needed | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | yes, you need to do the partition stuff, 'part' | 13:43 |
| lbt | yep - 2 of them | 13:43 |
| lbt | Error: failed to create image : Failed mount disks : Unexpected number of partitions from kpartx: 0 != 1 | 13:43 |
| lbt | fg | 13:43 |
| Venemo | how many UXes are there for Mer yet? :) | 13:44 |
| phaeron | lbt: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_projects_setup initial page | 13:44 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3184000 | 13:44 |
| lbt | phaeron: lookign | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: check the wiki, community_workspace | 13:45 |
| lbt | phaeron: you may be able to help me on the mic too | 13:45 |
| lbt | phaeron: nice - ta | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: --ondisk sda in both, i think | 13:45 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, I see Nemo, PA, and Cordia | 13:45 |
| lbt | ah | 13:46 |
| * lbt is in kvm mode :) | 13:46 | |
| Stskeeps | also, fstype= | 13:46 |
| phaeron | Venemo: there was one called lipstick | 13:46 |
| Venemo | phaeron, was? I thought w00t is still working on it | 13:46 |
| phaeron | lbt: what's up ? | 13:46 |
| phaeron | Venemo: didn't mean it's past sorry :) | 13:47 |
| phaeron | s/was/is | 13:47 |
| lbt | phaeron: just having issues making an image ... lack of mic docs etc | 13:47 |
| phaeron | I take this opportunity to bring up the need for signer and source service :D | 13:48 |
| lbt | signer for ? | 13:48 |
| phaeron | Mer / MINT ? | 13:49 |
| lbt | I don't think we can sign anything using the name "meego" in any way. | 13:49 |
| phaeron | who cares about "meego" ? | 13:49 |
| lbt | do you mean on mer obs? | 13:49 |
| lbt | there's a high prio bug for that | 13:49 |
| phaeron | cobs can't get signing ? | 13:50 |
| lbt | well, what would we sign with/as? | 13:50 |
| * phaeron wishes obs interlink would just die | 13:50 | |
| phaeron | lbt: we create a mint team signing key | 13:50 |
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| phaeron | lbt: fyi I am merging boss and boss-viewer source packages. I got boss-viewer down to two files :) | 13:53 |
| lbt | ok - maybe keep 2 rpms though | 13:54 |
| phaeron | we ought to clean up our gitorious team area (or move to github :)) | 13:54 |
| phaeron | lbt: yeah merge source package only. separate binary rpms | 13:54 |
| lbt | eventually boss-viewer may run on a web f/e against a nw DB like couchdb | 13:54 |
| lbt | cool | 13:54 |
| phaeron | lbt: yes I introduced inifile based config to prepare for that | 13:55 |
| phaeron | also planned is a simplified one page viewer based on the ruote-kit rest api , which show very condensed to the point info . without the need to click around a lot | 13:56 |
| Venemo | w00t, ping. | 13:57 |
| lbt | add that to the upstream view? | 13:58 |
| phaeron | lbt: yes , probably at the / which is currently empty | 13:58 |
| phaeron | or at /_ruote which now just says Hello world | 13:58 |
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| phaeron | kinda like easy mode vs. advanced mode | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3184063 <- lbt, phaeron | 13:59 |
| lbt | kickstarter for Mer core? | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | right | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | i should probably fix some typos | 14:01 |
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| phaeron | nice | 14:02 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: why the long names for the Architecture ? | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | to indicate what exactly they are :P | 14:04 |
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| phaeron | ok :D | 14:04 |
| lbt | is kickstarter better documented than mic2's .ks ? | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | it can become, at least, but just to show where i'm going | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3184092 | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | ExternalConfigs - effective layer cake | 14:06 |
| phaeron | lbt: mic's ks is a subset of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | means they become available for inheritiance | 14:06 |
| lbt | phaeron: which subset? | 14:06 |
| lbt | mmm | 14:06 |
| lbt | the problem I have today is that there are no docs and no best practice to make a vendor image | 14:07 |
| lbt | so do we fix that first | 14:07 |
| lbt | or do we wait until this is ready | 14:08 |
| lbt | not sure if kickstarter is packaged | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | it has been at some point, at least | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | i'd prefer to have people using kickstarter for the simple reason that we have already seen problematics with people using 'old' .ks'es | 14:08 |
| lbt | so what do I put in that yaml to specify my raw image with 2 partitions? | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | and we better can do 'off the shelf' getting of hardware adaptations | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 14:09 |
| lbt | and where are you looking to find out ? | 14:09 |
| lbt | as explaining *how* to solve it is better than providing the answer :) | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | there's something called custom/part/ directory | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | and you refer to it | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | for example, we have custom/part/n900 | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3184100 | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | when it's beyond 'just a rootfs' | 14:12 |
| phaeron | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=kickstarter&project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting | 14:13 |
| lbt | phaeron: cool | 14:13 |
| lbt | OK | 14:13 |
| phaeron | brb | 14:13 |
| lbt | so that kickstarted knows about the n900 | 14:14 |
| lbt | the package/source | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it's the same old meego.com used | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | sage has a bit modified one that supports inherit | 14:15 |
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| lbt | (mutter... raw is asking for syslinux too now ... wonder if it's hardcoded or a default for some magic bootloader attribute) | 14:15 |
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| Stskeeps | posssibly | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | so, in principle, any objections to this kind of layercake setup? | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | means hw adaptations can provide configurations as well to be added | 14:19 |
| lbt | I'd like to see docs on how it works before I see the yaml | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:21 |
| * lbt sees kickstarter isn't packaged for Debian *sigh* | 14:22 | |
| lbt | looks trivial though | 14:22 |
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| lbt | if not self.target_arch or not self.target_arch.startswith("arm"): required_packages += ["syslinux", "syslinux-extlinux"] | 14:51 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 14:52 |
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| Stskeeps | the new type of becoming a nonperson: being #'ed | 14:53 |
| lbt | :) | 14:54 |
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| lbt | -> tango .... until tomorrow | 17:18 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 17:19 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: what things do we currently have packaged for mer? | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | ie, does mer:tools current build against mer itself | 19:40 |
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| n900_ru | helo)) | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | hello | 19:44 |
| n900_ru | )) | 19:44 |
| n900_ru | m// | 19:45 |
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| n900_ru | I saw your new build)) Well done .. good work))) I would like to know .. is it possible to put the system on the memory of the body?)), and instruction))) | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't bother, just run it off microsd | 19:50 |
| n900_ru | yes .. but I have a flash for only 2 gig ... | 19:50 |
| n900_ru | ( | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 19:51 |
| n900_ru | ( | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | the emmc procedure is a bit comple | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | x | 19:51 |
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| n900_ru | mmm& | 19:54 |
| n900_ru | mm? | 19:54 |
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| n900_ru | in the sense? | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | in the sense that it's very easy to fuck it up :) | 19:55 |
| n900_ru | mount? | 19:55 |
| n900_ru | there are instructions for a similar naebu ?)))) | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, not for newbies, i'm not even sure the emmc guide works at the moment :) | 19:57 |
| n900_ru | ( | 19:59 |
| n900_ru | you need to mount a folder in the monument | 20:00 |
| n900_ru | you need to mount a folder on your phone? | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | you need to load a kernel and a special init ram disk | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | and then manually write the image, with risk that you no longer can boot up your n900 | 20:01 |
| n900_ru | (( | 20:01 |
| n900_ru | heh | 20:02 |
| n900_ru | hmm | 20:02 |
| n900_ru | Next time can be cut and enough 2 gig ?))))))))))))))))))) | 20:04 |
| n900_ru | Next time can be cut image and two gig enough ?* | 20:05 |
| n900_ru | or no?( | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | so, there's two possibilities | 20:05 |
| n900_ru | for example:) | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | 1) you can partition the 2g card into 3 pieces, a root file system (ext4), a swap partition and a FAT partition, and copy all the contents from the 4gb image to that new card | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | 2) learn to make your own image and set it to 2gb instead | 20:06 |
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| n900_ru | ) | 20:07 |
| n900_ru | I do not have a head ))))) so much to know because it is necessary ... | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:08 |
| n900_ru | )) | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | n900_ru: ok, if you submit a bug on http://bugs.nemomobile.org about making images smaller i'll see what i can do | 20:09 |
| n900_ru | hmm | 20:10 |
| n900_ru | regstracion? | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | get an account on bugs.merproject.org | 20:10 |
| n900_ru | yes.. | 20:10 |
| n900_ru | mm | 20:10 |
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| n900_ru | today it's too late .. tomorrow morning I Regna ... and leave comments | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:12 |
| n900_ru | and esle mount mmcblk1 in / folder is .....? | 20:13 |
| n900_ru | and esle mount mmcblk1 in /folder is .....? | 20:13 |
| n900_ru | * | 20:13 |
| n900_ru | my laptop need to be repaired .. but finances do not allow so far ... When do .. uglblenno will study the system ..) | 20:15 |
| n900_ru | too late .. until tomorrow ...) | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 20:18 |
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| Stskeeps | see you | 20:19 |
| n900-sleep | ) | 20:19 |
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| araujo | mmm | 23:09 |
| araujo | what is the name of the mer core repo in obs? | 23:12 |
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