Thursday, 2012-01-12

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Stskeepsmorn05:45
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Stskeepslbt: can we remove Mer:Trunk:Base from COBS? it confuses people06:13
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vgradenice article on intel vs arm, http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/01/will-medfield-be-the-chip-intel-needs-to-take-on-arm.ars07:45
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Stskeepshello ZiQiangHuan09:14
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mdfe_good morning09:29
Stskeepsmorn mdfe_09:30
mdfe_Stskeeps: Sadly I have some trouble to get the images running after toolchain update09:30
Stskeepsmdfe_: what images specifically?09:30
mdfe_At the moment I just tried a arm archos image, but it does not work at all09:31
mdfe_mom09:31
Stskeepsyes, you need to apply the patch from release notes09:32
Stskeepsto the kernel09:32
mdfe_http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/archos-generation-9/09:32
mdfe_Stskeeps: awesome hint09:32
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lbtStskeeps: all the Mer:Trunk:* ?09:41
Stskeepslbt: yes, it confuses people as it's an ancient copy09:42
Stskeepsand makes them think we build mer on there09:42
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lbtyeah - I thought so09:42
phaeronlbt: fyi https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-infrastructure-tools/boss/blobs/supervisor/boss (in a branch)09:55
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w00tanyone want to test qt 4.8.0 final?11:57
w00tSage: ? mdfe_?11:57
w00tonly armv7hl has built, so far11:57
w00tbut it's still a start11:57
Sagew00t: sry, have a bit other things to do. Maybe tomorrow.11:58
w00tno rush11:58
w00tit's already horrifically late11:58
arfollSage: here is the mysql patch. https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/62312:00
Sagearfoll: yey, thx.12:05
mdfe_w00t: cool, do you packaged it?12:08
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mdfe_ w00t: any idea why the i586 build fails?12:10
w00tnot yet, probably a bad rebase, I'll figure it out12:10
mdfe_:)12:10
w00tindeed it is12:11
w00tI have no idae why that built on ARM :)12:12
mdfe_*g*12:12
w00tbut well, it's a start12:12
mdfe_I like it12:12
w00tmdfe_: home:w00t:branches:Mer:fake:Core:i586 / qt, anyway, if you want to tinker12:14
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w00tthere, i586 seems to be building now12:26
mdfe_:)12:26
mdfe_Stskeeps: great thanks for your advice, our mer arm images are back to life12:30
Stskeepsexcellent12:30
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StskeepsSage: how does mic react when meego-release is missing and instead provided by mer-release?12:55
SageStskeeps: I have no idea actually, also noted that even the new mic uses bootstrap12:56
Stskeepsok12:56
Sageit just doesn't get bootstrap repo url from .ks file but instead of global siteconf12:56
Stskeepsahh :P12:57
Sagethus didn't have any problems with it so far :)12:57
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Sagew00t: I'll report bug about that systemui crash13:08
Stskeepsi'll probably do a prerelease of mer today13:08
w00tStskeeps: no waiting for 4.8.0?13:09
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w00tnot*13:09
Stskeepsw00t: mmmm13:09
Stskeepsyeah, ok, i'll wait for 4.8.013:10
w00ti586 built fine13:10
Stskeepsand qtwebkit 2.2 if we can13:10
SageStskeeps: no polkit in next release? :/13:11
Sagewould really like to see that on next release if possible. review stopped to bug.13:12
Stskeepsk13:12
Stskeepshttp://pastie.org/3172205 is current changelog13:12
StskeepsSage: will ask it to re-review http://review.merproject.org/29613:14
SageStskeeps: thx13:15
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StskeepsSage: gstreamer 1.0 .. what problems did we have there?13:51
Stskeepscamera was one13:52
Sage1.0 ?13:52
Stskeepsyes13:52
Stskeepserr..13:52
Sagewhere is gstreamer 1.0 ? :D13:52
Stskeepsok13:52
Stskeepsin planning, it seems like13:52
Stskeeps0.10.13 is latest stable13:53
Stskeepsor something.13:53
* Stskeeps needs coffee13:53
Sagewe have 0.10.3513:53
Stskeeps..13:53
Stskeeps<- fail :)13:53
Sage0.11.1 would be the next step but I guess sthe camera might be issue there13:54
Stskeepsyeah13:54
Stskeepsand since it's under development we can't do something good there..13:54
Sagealso gst-plugins-good is in CE:MW:Shared version 0.10.27 and latest is 0.10.30 that could be one update as well13:55
SageI updated the gstreamer to latest 0.10.x series at some point13:56
Sagein Mer13:56
Stskeeps:nod:13:56
Sagegstreamer and gst-plugins-base at least13:56
Sagegst-plugins-bad-free well it is a patch hell :)13:56
Sagedidn't want to touch that one :)13:57
Sagewould be nice if someone could try to upstream those patches we have there and rebase rest on top of the latest release (bad-free that is)13:58
Stskeepsbtw, http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/cross-distro/2012-January/000125.html13:59
Stskeepswe should probably go for that13:59
Stskeepsthe BoF, at least13:59
Sageis the fosdem schedule published already (any draft even?)14:00
Stskeepsnot the whole of it14:00
Sageok14:01
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Stskeepshello Aurium :)14:24
AuriumStskeeps :-)14:25
Stskeepswelcome - what brings you here?14:25
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StskeepsANNOUNCEMENT: FOSDEM open mobile linux devroom schedule, http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/track/open_mobile_linux_devroom - abstracts and time subject to change15:09
SageStskeeps: niels twice in second line15:09
Stskeepsyes, pentabarf problem15:09
Stskeepsi can't fix it myself15:10
Sage:)15:10
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SageStskeeps: btw, calc the size of debuginfo dir on current and next upcoming release. Would be nice to know how much difference there is15:23
Stskeeps:nod:15:24
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Stskeepsafter: 741992170 bytes15:30
Stskeepsbefore: 1039139000 bytes15:30
Stskeepsso about 283mb save15:31
Stskeepsd15:31
w00t283mb15:31
Stskeepsthat's on x8615:31
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Stskeepsso that move saves us probably 283*(i586 i486 armv7l armv7hl armv6l)15:32
kimjueh, "Intro to Tizen and the Future of the Community".15:35
Stskeepsyes, title and abstract will probably be changed15:36
Stskeepsdawn's coming by, so15:36
Stskeepswe have openmoko, tizen, mer, maliit, qtonpi, and hopefully plasma active too, so a nice gettogether15:37
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SageX-Fade: sync ping16:06
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Stskeepsevening slaine_18:52
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slaine_evening Stskeeps18:53
slaine_finally installed xchat-gnome on my ideapad18:54
Stskeepswoo :)18:54
Stskeepswe're playing with Nemo/Mer on exopc: http://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/tmp/20120112-164250.png18:55
Stskeepsvkb acrobatics ;018:56
slaine_nice, lol18:56
slaine_is that a malit bug or something ?18:57
Stskeepsor compositor18:57
slaine_does it happen on lower resolutions ?18:58
slaine_never got an expoc18:58
slaine_exopc18:58
Stskeepsnop, doesn't happen on n900/n95018:58
Stskeepsthey're nice hardware but a tablet with a fan is a bit fail..18:58
slaine_had hoped to get one on the community device program, but that never materializeds18:58
Stskeepsi plan on using it in the kitchen18:58
slaine_we looked at some for a site at work18:59
slaine_mocked up a demo on it18:59
slaine_medfield is very interesting if the performance numbers are accurate. Just hope the deal with the PVR driver fail better18:59
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SageStskeeps: someone reported that same problem on virtual box and ubuntu so I think it is not mcompositor related.19:00
Stskeepsok19:00
Stskeepsslaine_: i tried aava mobile at least, that was a hot one :P19:00
Stskeepsnice for winter19:00
Stskeepshopefully they did better since19:00
slaine_that was moorestown right ?19:01
Stskeepshmm19:01
Stskeepsyes, that was mrst19:01
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Stskeepsmy bad :)19:01
slaine_yeah, that was fail19:01
slaine_potentially nice n810 type devices mocked up but they never materialized19:01
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Stskeepsevening mingwandroid19:41
mingwandroidevening mate.19:42
Stskeepshow is it going?19:42
mingwandroidOk, sorry I missed all the irc action this week. read the summary emails though.19:42
mingwandroidstill hacking about with osx cross compilers. I don't think it'll be legal install the full sdk on mer though...19:43
Stskeepsso you need xcode etc to build for osx or?19:44
Stskeepsor sysroot libs19:45
w00tStskeeps: 4.8.0 built19:46
w00tthough I just realised it doesn't have the instdate fix19:46
mingwandroidyeah, the libs. crt files, probably also needs the dylibs.19:46
w00twant me to poke that in and trigger another rebuild?19:46
Stskeepsw00t: yes pleas19:46
Stskeepse19:46
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w00thuff ;)19:47
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w00tok, pushed. let's see what that yields.19:53
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Stskeepsmingwandroid: curious question, ever bootstrapped a compiler and cross compiled bionic?20:30
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mingwandroidStskeeps: no, bootstrapped a compiler yeah, but not bionic. are you considering that instead of eglibc?20:46
Stskeepsmingwandroid: just a stray thought20:46
Stskeepsmingwandroid: imagine if we could do a mer core on top of bionic for some targets20:46
Stskeeps:P20:46
mingwandroidyou'd certainly hit some bionic limitations that would prevent things from compiling.20:47
Stskeepsof course20:47
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Stskeepsi am almost assuming systemd to throw a fit20:48
mingwandroidlibrary versioning, no weak implementations AFAIK too.20:48
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Stskeeps:nod:20:49
mingwandroiddid you try eglibc yet?20:49
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Stskeepsnot yet, but it's on my list20:49
Stskeepsi kinda want to get out of the fedora glibc patches20:49
Stskeepsand closer to what linaro use20:49
Stskeepss20:49
mingwandroiddo you have to make changes to the clib for sb2 as well?20:50
Stskeepsjust for x86 side20:50
Stskeepstechnically20:50
Stskeepssome patches to ld-linux20:50
mingwandroiddoes anyone have gentoo installed?20:51
Stskeepsnot locally, but i did spot something curious20:51
Stskeepsthey have a gentoo bionic overlay20:51
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vgradeliking the bionic discussions22:33
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lbtgoddam session timer for the wiki23:18
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