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| Stskeeps | morn | 05:45 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: can we remove Mer:Trunk:Base from COBS? it confuses people | 06:13 |
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| vgrade | nice article on intel vs arm, http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/01/will-medfield-be-the-chip-intel-needs-to-take-on-arm.ars | 07:45 |
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| Stskeeps | hello ZiQiangHuan | 09:14 |
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| mdfe_ | good morning | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | morn mdfe_ | 09:30 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: Sadly I have some trouble to get the images running after toolchain update | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: what images specifically? | 09:30 |
| mdfe_ | At the moment I just tried a arm archos image, but it does not work at all | 09:31 |
| mdfe_ | mom | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | yes, you need to apply the patch from release notes | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | to the kernel | 09:32 |
| mdfe_ | http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/archos-generation-9/ | 09:32 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: awesome hint | 09:32 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: all the Mer:Trunk:* ? | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: yes, it confuses people as it's an ancient copy | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | and makes them think we build mer on there | 09:42 |
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| lbt | yeah - I thought so | 09:42 |
| phaeron | lbt: fyi https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-infrastructure-tools/boss/blobs/supervisor/boss (in a branch) | 09:55 |
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| w00t | anyone want to test qt 4.8.0 final? | 11:57 |
| w00t | Sage: ? mdfe_? | 11:57 |
| w00t | only armv7hl has built, so far | 11:57 |
| w00t | but it's still a start | 11:57 |
| Sage | w00t: sry, have a bit other things to do. Maybe tomorrow. | 11:58 |
| w00t | no rush | 11:58 |
| w00t | it's already horrifically late | 11:58 |
| arfoll | Sage: here is the mysql patch. https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/623 | 12:00 |
| Sage | arfoll: yey, thx. | 12:05 |
| mdfe_ | w00t: cool, do you packaged it? | 12:08 |
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| mdfe_ | w00t: any idea why the i586 build fails? | 12:10 |
| w00t | not yet, probably a bad rebase, I'll figure it out | 12:10 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 12:10 |
| w00t | indeed it is | 12:11 |
| w00t | I have no idae why that built on ARM :) | 12:12 |
| mdfe_ | *g* | 12:12 |
| w00t | but well, it's a start | 12:12 |
| mdfe_ | I like it | 12:12 |
| w00t | mdfe_: home:w00t:branches:Mer:fake:Core:i586 / qt, anyway, if you want to tinker | 12:14 |
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| mdfe_ | thx | 12:15 |
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| w00t | there, i586 seems to be building now | 12:26 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 12:26 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: great thanks for your advice, our mer arm images are back to life | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | excellent | 12:30 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: how does mic react when meego-release is missing and instead provided by mer-release? | 12:55 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I have no idea actually, also noted that even the new mic uses bootstrap | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:56 |
| Sage | it just doesn't get bootstrap repo url from .ks file but instead of global siteconf | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | ahh :P | 12:57 |
| Sage | thus didn't have any problems with it so far :) | 12:57 |
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| Sage | w00t: I'll report bug about that systemui crash | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | i'll probably do a prerelease of mer today | 13:08 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: no waiting for 4.8.0? | 13:09 |
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| w00t | not* | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: mmmm | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, ok, i'll wait for 4.8.0 | 13:10 |
| w00t | i586 built fine | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | and qtwebkit 2.2 if we can | 13:10 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: no polkit in next release? :/ | 13:11 |
| Sage | would really like to see that on next release if possible. review stopped to bug. | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | k | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3172205 is current changelog | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: will ask it to re-review http://review.merproject.org/296 | 13:14 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: thx | 13:15 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: gstreamer 1.0 .. what problems did we have there? | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | camera was one | 13:52 |
| Sage | 1.0 ? | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | err.. | 13:52 |
| Sage | where is gstreamer 1.0 ? :D | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | in planning, it seems like | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | 0.10.13 is latest stable | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | or something. | 13:53 |
| * Stskeeps needs coffee | 13:53 | |
| Sage | we have 0.10.35 | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | .. | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | <- fail :) | 13:53 |
| Sage | 0.11.1 would be the next step but I guess sthe camera might be issue there | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | and since it's under development we can't do something good there.. | 13:54 |
| Sage | also gst-plugins-good is in CE:MW:Shared version 0.10.27 and latest is 0.10.30 that could be one update as well | 13:55 |
| Sage | I updated the gstreamer to latest 0.10.x series at some point | 13:56 |
| Sage | in Mer | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:56 |
| Sage | gstreamer and gst-plugins-base at least | 13:56 |
| Sage | gst-plugins-bad-free well it is a patch hell :) | 13:56 |
| Sage | didn't want to touch that one :) | 13:57 |
| Sage | would be nice if someone could try to upstream those patches we have there and rebase rest on top of the latest release (bad-free that is) | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | btw, http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/cross-distro/2012-January/000125.html | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | we should probably go for that | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | the BoF, at least | 13:59 |
| Sage | is the fosdem schedule published already (any draft even?) | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | not the whole of it | 14:00 |
| Sage | ok | 14:01 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Aurium :) | 14:24 |
| Aurium | Stskeeps :-) | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | welcome - what brings you here? | 14:25 |
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| Stskeeps | ANNOUNCEMENT: FOSDEM open mobile linux devroom schedule, http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/track/open_mobile_linux_devroom - abstracts and time subject to change | 15:09 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: niels twice in second line | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | yes, pentabarf problem | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | i can't fix it myself | 15:10 |
| Sage | :) | 15:10 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: btw, calc the size of debuginfo dir on current and next upcoming release. Would be nice to know how much difference there is | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:24 |
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| Stskeeps | after: 741992170 bytes | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | before: 1039139000 bytes | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | so about 283mb save | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | d | 15:31 |
| w00t | 283mb | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | that's on x86 | 15:31 |
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| Stskeeps | so that move saves us probably 283*(i586 i486 armv7l armv7hl armv6l) | 15:32 |
| kimju | eh, "Intro to Tizen and the Future of the Community". | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | yes, title and abstract will probably be changed | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | dawn's coming by, so | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | we have openmoko, tizen, mer, maliit, qtonpi, and hopefully plasma active too, so a nice gettogether | 15:37 |
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| Sage | X-Fade: sync ping | 16:06 |
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| Stskeeps | evening slaine_ | 18:52 |
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| slaine_ | evening Stskeeps | 18:53 |
| slaine_ | finally installed xchat-gnome on my ideapad | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | woo :) | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | we're playing with Nemo/Mer on exopc: http://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/tmp/20120112-164250.png | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | vkb acrobatics ;0 | 18:56 |
| slaine_ | nice, lol | 18:56 |
| slaine_ | is that a malit bug or something ? | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | or compositor | 18:57 |
| slaine_ | does it happen on lower resolutions ? | 18:58 |
| slaine_ | never got an expoc | 18:58 |
| slaine_ | exopc | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | nop, doesn't happen on n900/n950 | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | they're nice hardware but a tablet with a fan is a bit fail.. | 18:58 |
| slaine_ | had hoped to get one on the community device program, but that never materializeds | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | i plan on using it in the kitchen | 18:58 |
| slaine_ | we looked at some for a site at work | 18:59 |
| slaine_ | mocked up a demo on it | 18:59 |
| slaine_ | medfield is very interesting if the performance numbers are accurate. Just hope the deal with the PVR driver fail better | 18:59 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: someone reported that same problem on virtual box and ubuntu so I think it is not mcompositor related. | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | slaine_: i tried aava mobile at least, that was a hot one :P | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | nice for winter | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully they did better since | 19:00 |
| slaine_ | that was moorestown right ? | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that was mrst | 19:01 |
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| Stskeeps | my bad :) | 19:01 |
| slaine_ | yeah, that was fail | 19:01 |
| slaine_ | potentially nice n810 type devices mocked up but they never materialized | 19:01 |
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| Stskeeps | evening mingwandroid | 19:41 |
| mingwandroid | evening mate. | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | how is it going? | 19:42 |
| mingwandroid | Ok, sorry I missed all the irc action this week. read the summary emails though. | 19:42 |
| mingwandroid | still hacking about with osx cross compilers. I don't think it'll be legal install the full sdk on mer though... | 19:43 |
| Stskeeps | so you need xcode etc to build for osx or? | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | or sysroot libs | 19:45 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: 4.8.0 built | 19:46 |
| w00t | though I just realised it doesn't have the instdate fix | 19:46 |
| mingwandroid | yeah, the libs. crt files, probably also needs the dylibs. | 19:46 |
| w00t | want me to poke that in and trigger another rebuild? | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: yes pleas | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | e | 19:46 |
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| w00t | huff ;) | 19:47 |
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| w00t | ok, pushed. let's see what that yields. | 19:53 |
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| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: curious question, ever bootstrapped a compiler and cross compiled bionic? | 20:30 |
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| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: no, bootstrapped a compiler yeah, but not bionic. are you considering that instead of eglibc? | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: just a stray thought | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: imagine if we could do a mer core on top of bionic for some targets | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:46 |
| mingwandroid | you'd certainly hit some bionic limitations that would prevent things from compiling. | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | of course | 20:47 |
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| Stskeeps | i am almost assuming systemd to throw a fit | 20:48 |
| mingwandroid | library versioning, no weak implementations AFAIK too. | 20:48 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:49 |
| mingwandroid | did you try eglibc yet? | 20:49 |
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| Stskeeps | not yet, but it's on my list | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | i kinda want to get out of the fedora glibc patches | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | and closer to what linaro use | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | s | 20:49 |
| mingwandroid | do you have to make changes to the clib for sb2 as well? | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | just for x86 side | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | technically | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | some patches to ld-linux | 20:50 |
| mingwandroid | does anyone have gentoo installed? | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | not locally, but i did spot something curious | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | they have a gentoo bionic overlay | 20:51 |
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| vgrade | liking the bionic discussions | 22:33 |
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