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| wmarone | hmm | 02:39 |
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| wmarone | http://pastie.org/3157969 partially functional xorg conf | 02:51 |
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| wmarone | hmm | 03:29 |
| wmarone | all the fedora/ubuntu stuff uses mtev | 03:30 |
| ScriptRipper | I had already considered to loudly cry on the tizen channel "I want my meego back" | 03:30 |
| ScriptRipper | what the hell is this | 03:31 |
| ScriptRipper | :D | 03:31 |
| ScriptRipper | but since I am here, there is nothing to cry | 03:31 |
| ScriptRipper | lets get back to the first maemo and produce a maemo classic, like an old car | 03:33 |
| ScriptRipper | full cover and good night :) | 03:33 |
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| wmarone | hmm | 04:27 |
| wmarone | ok | 04:27 |
| wmarone | xinput_calibrator output is ignored | 04:27 |
| cxl000 | wmarone take the output and create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/mydevice.conf | 04:42 |
| wmarone | did that | 04:43 |
| wmarone | I have a .conf for my tablet's setup | 04:43 |
| wmarone | ah yeah | 04:47 |
| wmarone | touchtest-xi2 failed | 04:47 |
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| cxl000 | Is Xorg.0.log showing the pickup of directory /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d? Could ther be other conf matching your input device with higher priority? | 04:51 |
| wmarone | nope, it's doing exactly as configured in my file | 04:52 |
| wmarone | the accelerometer, gpio-keys, and twl4030 are being ignored, while the cyttsp input is being directed to mtev | 04:53 |
| wmarone | without it, it'll start feeding the accelerometer into the cursor and do strange things | 04:53 |
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| cxl000 | You may be able to adjust it with xinput | 05:05 |
| wmarone | package anywhere for it? | 05:07 |
| wmarone | ah, here we go | 05:07 |
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| wmarone | ok this is good | 05:14 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 05:32 |
| wmarone | just getting some numbers on the touchscreen's odd behavior | 05:32 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 05:32 |
| wmarone | xorg is seeing a 600 x 600 square and mapping it strangely to the screen | 05:33 |
| wmarone | little to no idea how to proceed though :> | 05:33 |
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| Stskeeps | list-props? | 05:37 |
| Stskeeps | with xinput2 | 05:37 |
| Stskeeps | er, xinput | 05:38 |
| wmarone | http://pastie.org/3158485 | 05:38 |
| Stskeeps | got Option "SendCoreEvents" "On" ? | 05:40 |
| Stskeeps | also, test with xterm, not qmlviewer as a start | 05:40 |
| wmarone | one sec | 05:40 |
| Stskeeps | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106294 also seems releveant | 05:41 |
| wmarone | I had it on, but pulled it out as it had no obvious effect | 05:41 |
| wmarone | let me restore it and list props again | 05:42 |
| wmarone | no change in props, let me load up xterm | 05:43 |
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| wmarone | I found that xdadevs post yesterday, got me moving with correct axis orientation | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | qmlviewer may be using out xinput2 patch, so get readings from a 'normal' x app first | 05:50 |
| wmarone | event type 17 is registering (mostly) what I'd expect | 05:51 |
| wmarone | valuator 0 goes from 0 to 1015 or so, valuator 1 goes from 5 to roughly 599 | 05:52 |
| wmarone | so it's registering the dimensions of the screen (approximately) | 05:52 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 05:53 |
| wmarone | but event 6 shows the misalignment | 05:53 |
| wmarone | http://pastie.org/3158532 | 05:53 |
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| Stskeeps | another problem we had at some point: somehow that our events got converted into both being our mtev driver but -also- mouse events | 05:56 |
| wmarone | how can you tell that? | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | my caffeine hasn't kicked in yet, i can't recall how we did that :P | 05:57 |
| wmarone | haha | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | i think it was something about xorg.0.log | 05:57 |
| wmarone | the accelerometer was registering as a mouse | 05:57 |
| wmarone | touchscreen was registering as a keyboard | 05:57 |
| wmarone | that was with the evdev driver I think | 05:58 |
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| Stskeeps | huomenta jukka | 06:33 |
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| Stskeeps | hello sathis | 06:46 |
| sathis | hai | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | welcome :) so what brings you here? | 06:48 |
| sathis | Went through tizen source. Looks like qt is not included. | 06:48 |
| Stskeeps | it is indeed not, but that's not unexpected | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't mean it can't be installed, though | 06:49 |
| sathis | why? is it a closed channel? | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | well, i think intel and samsung wanted to distance themselves and focus on the HTML5 application story instead | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | some phones may be closed channel | 06:50 |
| Stskeeps | but qt is not included by standard in the tizen stack | 06:50 |
| Stskeeps | we include qt in Mer because well, we're a Linux/Qt/HTML5/JS stack :) | 06:51 |
| Stskeeps | and hopefully we can share html5/WAC app story with tizen as well, but keep our qt-ness | 06:51 |
| sathis | yes.Mer should include Qt libs with tizen code. | 06:52 |
| sathis | may be swipe UX also. | 06:53 |
| Stskeeps | UX some other people can do, Mer's just a core, people can build user interfaces on top :) | 06:53 |
| sathis | sorry. I got confused with nemo mobile. | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo is an example of a handset user interface, http://www.youtube.com/user/nsuffys has some nice videos, yeah | 06:55 |
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| Stskeeps | so what are you hoping to use Mer for? | 07:03 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: that polkit thing is well a bit confusing. It seems it has circular dependency to consolekit | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | really? | 07:18 |
| Sage | or is this just a fluke in review proces http://qtl.merproject.org/c2223542-3ae0-11e1-97b3-00163e6e0038.html | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | well, try to replicate it on COBS? | 07:19 |
| Sage | yes, trying now | 07:19 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binary?arch=i586&filename=polkit-0.104-8.1.i586.rpm&package=polkit&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl&repository=Mer_Core_i586 <- but there is circular dep as well :) | 07:19 |
| Sage | console kit uses libpolkit-gobject | 07:20 |
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| Stskeeps | ick | 07:20 |
| Sage | so that migth fail anyway :( | 07:23 |
| Sage | LOL | 07:24 |
| Sage | nothing provides polkit-docs = 0.104-8.3 needed by polkit-devel | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | ... | 07:24 |
| Sage | nothing provides polkit-docs = 0.104-8.3 needed by polkit-devel | 07:24 |
| Sage | in gconf and upower | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | wtf | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:24 |
| Sage | ok, need to clean those up | 07:24 |
| Sage | it was empty package in polkit :D | 07:24 |
| Sage | didn't see that coming :) | 07:24 |
| Sage | hmmp | 07:25 |
| Sage | oh, my bad | 07:25 |
| * Sage thinks it is too early to work this hour | 07:26 | |
| * Stskeeps is working on the gnu hash style stuff | 07:27 | |
| Sage | does gerrit automatically start evaluating the submit btw? | 07:29 |
| Sage | Just asking as I really would like this polkit stuff to next Mer release :) | 07:29 |
| Sage | ok, now those compile fine | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it automatically starts evaluating | 07:30 |
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| Sage | also when submit updates? | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:38 |
| Sage | ok | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | cancels the old one | 07:38 |
| Sage | btw, would be nice if unresolvable would show why instaed of "unknown at this point" | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | it was simply i hadn't implemented that feature yet | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | submit a bug please so i remember | 07:39 |
| Sage | ok | 07:40 |
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| Sage | done | 07:42 |
| Sage | o_0 | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 07:43 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=pixman&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl# | 07:44 |
| Sage | http://review.merproject.org/#patch,sidebyside,297,1,pixman-0.22.0-arm-revert-Do-CPU-features-detection-from-constructor-function.patch original patch | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | --disable-arm-iwmmxt | 07:45 |
| Sage | oh | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | and don't look into what iwmmxt is, it'll just make you insane | 07:45 |
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| Sage | bbl | 07:52 |
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| Stskeeps | morn mdfe_, welcome back from vacation | 09:04 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: happy new year :) | 09:09 |
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| Stskeeps | mdfe_: we upgraded mer core while you were gone, hope it doesn't break PA too much | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | read the release notes :) | 09:09 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: great thanks for adding the mer_next repositories | 09:10 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: by the way, I'm trying to find out whats goes wrong with kde-workspace on top of mer | 09:11 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: I get strange linker errors from libX11 by building kde-workspace | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | can i see it? | 09:12 |
| mdfe_ | mom | 09:12 |
| mdfe_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=kde-workspace&project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel&repository=CE_UX_PlasmaActive_i586 | 09:13 |
| mdfe_ | http://pastebin.com/hL0wuySr | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 09:14 |
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| mdfe_ | I do wonder, because this software state was building successfully in december | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it's a new thing with new mer toolchain/core | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | the release notes say that if you see this error, it means you're using a symbol from that library, but not linking directly to it | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | you need to -lX11 for greeterapp, i guess | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | previously gcc allowed you to use a symbol through another lib's dependancies | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | which would cause things to break often | 09:15 |
| mdfe_ | I have to set additional linker flags?= | 09:15 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 09:15 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | you're using XQueryPointer but not linking to libX11 | 09:16 |
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| mdfe_ | maybe this should go directly into the code | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | everyone is going to have this problem, they made it default in binutils i think | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | not just a mer thing | 09:17 |
| mdfe_ | ahh ok | 09:17 |
| mdfe_ | anyway, greate thanks :) | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | i'm also working on switching to --linker-hash-style=gnu, which means symbol lookups are 50% faster | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | which is very useful for beasts like KDE and Qt | 09:18 |
| Bostik | and webkit... | 09:18 |
| mdfe_ | I do not get it, but it sounds good to me# | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | ye | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | s | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: it's kind of like with x11, the old method is from the 80's and not very fast ;) | 09:19 |
| mdfe_ | hopefully we do not get to many bad side-effects | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | it's only if you try to run binaries built with mer on very old systems | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | which isn't a typical usecase | 09:20 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 09:21 |
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| mdfe_ | I like the concept with the mer next projects very much, by this we have a great chance to notice bad side-effects very early | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:25 |
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| phaeron | morning | 10:02 |
| lbt | morning all | 10:02 |
| phaeron | Sage: is the re meeting now ? | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | 12:00 UTC | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | so in 2 hours | 10:02 |
| phaeron | ah, just notice the UTC in the subject :) | 10:03 |
| phaeron | it wasn't in the body | 10:03 |
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| Stskeeps | i think we'll try to do it as a bit of a brainstorm meeting with the intent of general tasks for this month | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | er, generating | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | like, what guides should be written, what processes should be made, what issues we need to investigate, etc | 10:05 |
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| vgrade | mdfe_, happy new year, | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | something for the logs: Size: 316.9 MB , qt with dwarf-3 | 10:43 |
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| tpn | memos please DeBot | 11:15 |
| tpn | (wrong channel urgh) | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | huh? | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 11:15 |
| tpn | lol morning Stskeeps | 11:15 |
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| Stskeeps | bergie: what was the schedule deadline? | 11:31 |
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| bergie | Stskeeps: not sure, but I guess we should input the sessions we know about | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i can do that this evening | 11:38 |
| bergie | cool | 11:45 |
| bergie | thx | 11:45 |
| bergie | let me know if you need anything | 11:45 |
| bergie | I'm traveling almost every day before FOSDEM, though | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:46 |
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| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Mer release management meeting in 7 minutes in #mer-meeting | 11:55 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Eiden | 12:38 |
| mdfe_ | vgrade: happy new year :) | 12:42 |
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| Eiden | I have question. Who can answer for me? | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | ask away :) | 12:56 |
| Eiden | Thank you. | 12:58 |
| Eiden | I made mer binary with watching "http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Trying_it_out". but the binary didn't work on Virtual box. | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok, try with -f livecd instead | 13:00 |
| Eiden | " --format=livecd" is correct? | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:01 |
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| Eiden | And second try. I made binary with " --format=raw" option. but It didn't work on qemu. " --format=livecd" is correct in this case? | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it makes a bootable live cd | 13:05 |
| Stskeeps | .iso format | 13:05 |
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| Eiden | thank you. I'll third try! | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | it takes a bit :) | 13:06 |
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| Eiden | I'll build binary dring my sleep. because japan is at night... | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: it's a good time to do it | 13:09 |
| Eiden | bye Stskeeps! | 13:10 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: does the review machinery do something as it doesn't report anything back to me from my last 4 review submissions? | 14:41 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, it's kinda occupied atm | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | i added new gcc and glibc | 14:41 |
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| Sage | ah, ok. Can I see that somewhere what it does atm.? | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | mm, that interface isn't public, but it's currently waiting for all core repos to build | 14:42 |
| Sage | ok | 14:42 |
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| lbt | Sage: log a bug | 14:48 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: ping .. your email for the RE has http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/l%20mer-meeting.2012-01-10-12.02.html | 16:33 |
| lbt | that's 404 | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-01-10-12.02.html | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | will reply | 16:33 |
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| lbt | should it be on merproject? | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | eventually | 16:34 |
| dm8tbr | as the log-links have hilighted me. I'm reminded: | 16:36 |
| dm8tbr | any monitoring needs? | 16:36 |
| lbt | yeah .... | 16:37 |
| lbt | mmm | 16:37 |
| lbt | I need to sort out delegating root to VMS | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | stskeeps's pulse, blood pressure and location if under a bus or not | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:38 |
| lbt | you and alterego are blocked | 16:38 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: seen the gertboard... | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 16:38 |
| lbt | I'm sure you could manage that... | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | point, pi in the car could be interesting | 16:38 |
| lbt | light sensor, accelerometer and inclinometer .... plus NFC for the bus sensor | 16:39 |
| lbt | hmm a lot of people seem to worry about being hit by a bus ... there *must* be a market for that then | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | linus would be a prime candidate | 16:40 |
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| * lbt wonders about MINT vs Tools | 16:43 | |
| Stskeeps | Tools can contain gdb, MINT can't | 16:43 |
| lbt | do we *really* need two components/project areas ? | 16:43 |
| lbt | this is not OBS project | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 16:44 |
| lbt | that needs to be split up | 16:44 |
| lbt | just saying that we need a "Mer Tools" place in bz/Mer | 16:44 |
| lbt | and it should encompass all our tools | 16:44 |
| lbt | and some tools will be in one OBS project | 16:44 |
| lbt | some in another | 16:44 |
| lbt | and another | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to kickstart an area that covers both, i guess | 16:44 |
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| Stskeeps | Mer Tools is a nice encompassing name for MINT, tools 'obs project', etc | 16:45 |
| lbt | so I'd like to keep https://bugs.merproject.org/describecomponents.cgi | 16:45 |
| lbt | OK ... I was having MINT === Tools | 16:45 |
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| Stskeeps | right, MINT stood for what again? | 16:45 |
| lbt | Mer Integration Tools | 16:46 |
| lbt | what RE uses | 16:46 |
| lbt | just a catchy name :) | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | so how about we just wrap all that in a subproject and you also maintain the useful packages that are outside core, second tier? | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:46 |
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| lbt | yes, MINT encompasses all in the BZ and for OBS we do as needed to develop/maintain it? | 16:47 |
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| lbt | Mer:MINT:Tools Mer:MINT:BOSS Mer:MINT:OBS Mer:MINT:IMG | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | not sure i understood the last part (sorry, bit tired after today)? | 16:48 |
| lbt | yeah | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | i'd just call it call Tools and drop 'MINT", perhaps Tools:Utils | 16:49 |
| lbt | Mer:Tools:Utils Mer:Tools:BOSS Mer:Tools:OBS Mer:Tools:IMG | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:50 |
| lbt | sigh... no imagination | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | MINT confuses people | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | it makes perfect sense for you and me as we're in the know | 16:50 |
| lbt | whereas they manage with having a phone called an apple | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:51 |
| lbt | it's also a non-generic name | 16:51 |
| phaeron | no need to split BOSS and IMG | 16:51 |
| lbt | generic names are evil ... they mean different things to different people | 16:51 |
| phaeron | they have too much interdependency | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | right, a tool is a tool | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:51 |
| * lbt reserves the "told you so" ..... *again* | 16:52 | |
| lbt | phaeron: agree | 16:52 |
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| phaeron | and I would shorten Mer:Tools:Utils to just Mer:Tools | 16:53 |
| phaeron | we already have Mer:Utils | 16:53 |
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| lbt | what" | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | we don't, actually | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:53 |
| phaeron | hmm | 16:53 |
| lbt | we have utils *AND* tools ? | 16:53 |
| phaeron | nemo ? | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | not officially | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | nemo just has CE:Utils | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | which would probably seed Mer:Tools:Utils | 16:54 |
| * lbt goes to JFDI ... there's an edit button | 16:54 | |
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| phaeron | yeah mixed up CE:Utils with it | 16:54 |
| phaeron | I'll take a break | 16:55 |
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| Stskeeps | pentabarf----- | 18:45 |
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| dm8tbr | hm? | 18:55 |
| dm8tbr | I thought it was the 'best thing since sliced bread' for open conference software | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | entering fosdem schedule entries | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | well, it isn't :P | 18:56 |
| dm8tbr | :> | 18:56 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Gevatter :) | 19:01 |
| Gevatter | hi | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | welcome - so what brings you here? | 19:02 |
| Gevatter | just heard about the mer project and wanted to know what it is | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, well, you can start at www.merproject.org - or ask any questions you might have here :) | 19:02 |
| Gevatter | my first question would be: what is the correct email to join the mailing list. the mentioned one is not working correctly | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | hang on | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | send an email to mer-general+subscribe@lists.merproject.org | 19:04 |
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| Gevatter | second try, I hope it works now | 19:05 |
| Gevatter | something else I would like to know about Mer | 19:06 |
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| Gevatter | are you going to implement full Qt framework? OpenGL/ES, Network and so on? a c++ compiler, gdb and everything around it? | 19:07 |
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| Stskeeps | Gevatter: it's already there :) | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | qt, opengl es, connman, gcc, gdb | 19:08 |
| Gevatter | you mean - everything, which I have worked on in MeeGo is possible in Mer? | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | Mer is derived from MeeGo - we stripped out hardware adapations and UI as we believe this belongs outside the project | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | mer is ~320 source packages, amongst those, full base system, gcc, qt, etc | 19:09 |
| Gevatter | this sounds good - someone has heard my prayers | 19:09 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/user/nsuffys has videos of Nemo, a handset user interface on top of Mer, on top of N900, for example | 19:10 |
| nsuffys | ;) thx Stskeeps | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | but you can also go as low level as just showing qmlviewer, http://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/nook/20120106_003.jpg | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | nsuffys: you should add advertisement ;p | 19:12 |
| Gevatter | actually I would like to contribute in terms of games and qt-based game engine. at least this is what was intended to be the business case when MeeGo was running | 19:13 |
| nsuffys | Stskeeps: I do not want to advertise either on my videos or on my websites. For me the ads kill that the creators wanted to create internet;) | 19:14 |
| nsuffys | *internet creators wanted to create | 19:15 |
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| nsuffys | :) | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | Gevatter: sounds like a good plan still :) | 19:15 |
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| Gevatter | I hope - do you stick to rpm? | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 19:18 |
| Gevatter | nice | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | Gevatter: what kind of hardware do you use? | 19:21 |
| Gevatter | ExoPC for testing | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | ah, same here | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | we have an adaptation for exopc already | 19:23 |
| Gevatter | which gl version is running? I had the feeling that OpenGL was replaced by OpenGL/ES in MeeGo1.2 Tablet version - it was no longer possible to use fixed function pipeline | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | we're defaulting to opengl es as it's the only one that will work across all mer architectures | 19:26 |
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| Stskeeps | but it's still available.. for now | 19:26 |
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| Gevatter | k, understood | 19:27 |
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| Stskeeps | but hey, it's open source, so if you really wanted you could do whatever :P | 19:29 |
| Gevatter | yes - i still need to improve the shader to have same functionality compared to fixed function pipeline - if finished it would be easy to port 2 existing MeeGo games to Mer | 19:30 |
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| * Stskeeps glances at list of patches to merge to mer from mips port | 20:27 | |
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| phaeron | lbt: ping | 20:43 |
| lbt | phaeron: pong | 20:43 |
| phaeron | lbt: the fix_scripts branch of boss git repo , do you still want to merge it ? | 20:43 |
| lbt | url ? | 20:44 |
| phaeron | I just discovered it | 20:44 |
| phaeron | it's your branch :P | 20:44 |
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| lbt | what do you think? | 20:44 |
| phaeron | https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-infrastructure-tools/boss/commits/fix_scripts | 20:44 |
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| lbt | is there a hard reverse dependency in rpm/spec? | 21:09 |
| lbt | like supplements | 21:09 |
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| Stskeeps | that sounds dirty | 21:11 |
| lbt | Enhances sounds worse :P | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-maint/2007-June/001477.html ? | 21:12 |
| lbt | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html | 21:12 |
| lbt | I was thinking where to write the get_release macro | 21:13 |
| lbt | do we put it in core rpm | 21:13 |
| lbt | or a supplemental package | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | meego-rpm-config | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | future mer-rpm-config | 21:13 |
| lbt | ah... | 21:13 |
| lbt | does rpm depend on it? | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | no, but it comes in through automatic installs and target naming | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | ie, armv7l-meego-linux | 21:14 |
| lbt | OK - that was my concern | 21:14 |
| * lbt knows where to make that bug now... | 21:14 | |
| lbt | I don't like seeing a component / package | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | hm? | 21:16 |
| lbt | bugzilla | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | yes, what about it? | 21:16 |
| lbt | it seems wrong - seems better to have a tag | 21:17 |
| Stskeeps | it'll make more sense as we grow | 21:17 |
| Stskeeps | it was shit with the bug areas we had in meego | 21:17 |
| lbt | true, I didn't really see that | 21:18 |
| Stskeeps | if you can't find a place for your bug, put in Other, we'll get it in triage | 21:18 |
| lbt | maybe we should make Other _Other | 21:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, possibly | 21:18 |
| Stskeeps | i'm pro that | 21:18 |
| lbt | yeah - I'd feel better having the 'not-a-package-name' values _'ed | 21:19 |
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| Stskeeps | evening cybette | 21:19 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: +1 | 21:20 |
| lbt | _ sorts last :( | 21:21 |
| lbt | d'oh | 21:21 |
| lbt | . works | 21:21 |
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| lbt | just looking at the Tizen mailing list .... plus ca change.... | 21:49 |
| w00t | mm? | 21:50 |
| lbt | SDK installer | 21:50 |
| lbt | Dawn's comment about "would imply that we have those details and are keeping them secret" ... followed by "the engineering teams at Intel, Samsung and the Linux Foundation" .... which of course are un-named | 21:51 |
| * w00t just doesn't care about any of that stuff | 21:52 | |
| lbt | the patch for the git-email destined for the black hole.... and the fact that it did a check against "email == *.com" in the first place | 21:52 |
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| lbt | yeah.... I know... | 21:52 |
| w00t | yeah, it's certainly having a lot of echos of the past, isn't it | 21:52 |
| w00t | (i was commenting on the anonymous TSG being a sign of great things to come to carsten earlier when someone linked me to the post) | 21:53 |
| lbt | it's a bit sad is all | 21:53 |
| w00t | definitely | 21:53 |
| lbt | "lessons learnt" | 21:53 |
| lbt | #1 ... keep the community out... much quieter that way :) | 21:54 |
| timoph | yep | 21:54 |
| lbt | anyhow .... back to your scheduled openness here in #mer | 21:54 |
| timoph | they're doing a great job with that := | 21:54 |
| timoph | good evening btw | 21:54 |
| lbt | I liked Stskeeps' invite email to the Mer RE meeting :D :D :D | 21:54 |
| lbt | hey timoph .... and HNY too | 21:55 |
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