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| Stskeeps | morn | 05:59 |
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| Ronksu | morning | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | morn Ronksu | 06:12 |
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| Stskeeps | oh feck | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | my widelands ran all night | 06:55 |
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| Sage | :D | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | well, it was at such a stalemate that i could get rid of them all immediatley | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:12 |
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| Sage | so your economy was "good enough"? :) | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | seems so | 07:38 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/repomd-pattern-builder | 08:10 |
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| Stskeeps | thanks | 08:10 |
| Sage | need a package to mergit for this | 08:10 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo Matt_battle | 08:15 |
| Matt_battle | hi all | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | welcome :) and what brings you here? | 08:16 |
| Matt_battle | Just seeing what the latest news was on MER | 08:17 |
| Matt_battle | Mer* | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | we have a bug triage at 14:00 UTC at least | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/maillist.html is also good to keep track with | 08:18 |
| Matt_battle | About to send an email right now | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 08:20 |
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| Stskeeps | morn cxl000 | 08:21 |
| Matt_battle | It just amazes me how many projects have come and gone this year last year | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | last year was crap, yeah | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | the experiences with meego is what led us to do mer, a little more focus on what we all really need | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | ie, a solid core for small to medium businesses that they can rely on and build products with | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | not a full blown handset OS, just the difficult bits that we all have to do otherwise on our own | 08:23 |
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| Matt_battle | yeap | 08:35 |
| harbaum | vgrade: Do you have a qtmediahub repository? | 08:41 |
| Matt_battle | it will be interesting to see what the Tizen SDK will bring to the table | 08:42 |
| harbaum | BTW: Morning and happy new year! | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | Matt_battle: hopefully something saner than the current WAC SDK.. | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: good morning and happy new year :) | 08:43 |
| Matt_battle | Happy New Year! | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | Matt_battle: i'm personally bordering towards phonegap these days | 08:43 |
| Matt_battle | I am still on the fence about HTML5 being the future | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | i can see where it would matter, but doesn't mean i would use it for everything | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | i'd build UX'es in qml, not html5 | 08:46 |
| Matt_battle | thats another problem, deciding on what application framework to use, QT or GTK | 08:48 |
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| Stskeeps | well, my ideal core is qt, with qtwebkit for html5 story | 08:49 |
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| Matt_battle | Do you have any more information on the ultra-portable Linux core that will be used? | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | that's Mer, and sure - what would you like to know? | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb | 08:54 |
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| Matt_battle | i'll be back in a little bit, I am going to take a look at the wiki | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 08:58 |
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| Stskeeps | updating Core-next snapshot on COBS | 09:11 |
| chouchoune | Happy new year | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | you too chouchoun | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | e | 09:12 |
| chouchoune | thanks | 09:13 |
| chouchoune | I wish a great success for Mer ;) | 09:13 |
| * Stskeeps too | 09:13 | |
| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Mer bug triage meeting in #mer-meeting at 14:00 UTC, that is, in 4 hours 50 minutes | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00077.html | 09:14 |
| chouchoune | the reminder is set every 10 minutes ? ;) | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | naah ;) | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | manually made | 09:16 |
| chouchoune | ok ;) | 09:16 |
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| Stskeeps | ANNOUNCEMENT: Mer PRERELEASE 0.20120105.0.1 - http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00079.html | 09:47 |
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| Stskeeps | morn andre__ | 10:14 |
| andre__ | hola | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | andre__: will you be around for the bug triage i mentioned at mailing list? | 10:19 |
| andre__ | I hope so :) | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 10:21 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, was it 14UTC? | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | ye | 10:29 |
| iekku | hmm, it's 16 finnish time? | 10:30 |
| dm8tbr | yes | 10:31 |
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| Stskeeps | Mer bug triage in 22 minutes in #mer-meeting | 13:43 |
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| Stskeeps | (ie, bug triage in #mer-meeting now) | 14:02 |
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| vgrade | harbaum, I have something here but don't know the status, | 14:26 |
| vgrade | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_i586=1&defaults=0&project=home%3Avgrade%3Aqtmediahub&repo_Mer_Core_i586=1&succeeded=1 | 14:26 |
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| Sage | xvmc.c:490:22: error: the comparison will always evaluate as 'false' for the address of 'XvMCScreenKeyRec' will never be NULL [-Werror=address] | 15:08 |
| Sage | xorg needs a it patching | 15:08 |
| Sage | s/it/bit/ | 15:08 |
| Sage | or compile without that option | 15:09 |
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| harbaum | vgrade: thx | 15:33 |
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| harbaum | someone here wanting a lumia 800 and trying to get rid of a n9 ? :-) | 15:38 |
| iekku | :D | 15:38 |
| harbaum | that odd thing doesn't even want to play mp3 files .... | 15:38 |
| chouchoune | Stskeeps: what would be the ideal setup for a vendor infrastructure using Mer ? | 15:39 |
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| Stskeeps | chouchoune: depends on what you want to do :) | 15:47 |
| chouchoune | mmmhhh, UX stuff + hardware adaptation basically | 15:48 |
| chouchoune | eventually some middleware components for interactive table APIs (don't remember the name of the framework) | 15:48 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so, i can tell what i run Mer OBS on, which is kind of upper end, ie, several thousand packages | 15:49 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex5 | 15:49 |
| chouchoune | as our hardware might be Tegra2, I think vgrade already did a lot ;) | 15:49 |
| Stskeeps | you can theoretically go much lower, but RAM always helps on build speed | 15:49 |
| Stskeeps | we have three of those, one of them where the obs runs on and other VMs, two obs workers | 15:50 |
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| chouchoune | ok, myself I have http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/ "Kimsufi 16G" where I will host VMs | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:53 |
| chouchoune | others in the project have similar servers, and we can host things directly inside the hackerspace's computers, so it might be fine on the hardware side | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | i compiled entire meego for armv6 on a shitty 1gb ram machine in a week, so that gives perspective | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | and mer is even more lightweight than meego | 15:54 |
| chouchoune | on the software side, we need OBS : is there a documentation on the setup (I think I saw that already on the Merproject but I can't find it today) | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:56 |
| chouchoune | ok, here : http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/FakeOBS ? | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_Setup | 15:56 |
| chouchoune | ok great | 15:58 |
| chouchoune | we only need OBS ? (I'm not speaking of bug tracking and project management of course) | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | OBS and perhaps IMG | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | BOSS if you want to make products, as well | 16:00 |
| chouchoune | what do you mean by product ? | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | well, anything that is more professional scale :) | 16:01 |
| Stskeeps | we use BOSS in mer too to have a workflow process going | 16:01 |
| chouchoune | looking at this stuff on the MeeGo wiki right now | 16:02 |
| chouchoune | our stuiff is not so professionnal ... so let's see if the configuration effort is not too much in the end ;) | 16:02 |
| chouchoune | but thanks, we'll look at that | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | OBS is always a good first step :) | 16:04 |
| chouchoune | yep | 16:04 |
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| lbt | bugs updated | 16:10 |
| lbt | chouchoune: I've done a fair amount on setting up vendors | 16:12 |
| lbt | mainly for MeeGo of course | 16:13 |
| lbt | I'm working on a "Mer for Vendors getting started" guide too | 16:13 |
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| chouchoune | lbt: that would be great | 16:29 |
| lbt | chouchoune: feedback would be useful too | 16:30 |
| chouchoune | would be great for projects like ours with few resources (actually, non-paid resources who do this during extra-time ;)) | 16:30 |
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| chouchoune | lbt: yeah, I'll be happy to beta-test your guide ;) | 16:31 |
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| lbt | is this something you don't want to do in public? | 16:31 |
| lbt | since the "easy way" is to mimic Nemo and work on a public OBS and be part of the Mer ecosystem | 16:32 |
| chouchoune | lbt: that will be completely open | 16:32 |
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| chouchoune | yeah, using COBS ? | 16:33 |
| lbt | so there's a fair amount of effort in looking after the infra | 16:33 |
| lbt | if you don't need to do it, don't | 16:33 |
| lbt | if you want to, that's fine | 16:33 |
| chouchoune | that's one option too ;) | 16:34 |
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| chouchoune | I'm not the only one to take the decision (actually, I'm the most up-to-date with MeeGo/Mer stuff ;)), but having our own things has some advantages, especially during the early development stage when we will do crap ;) | 16:38 |
| lbt | to stay "under the radar" just work in someone's home project | 16:40 |
| lbt | then when you feel less shy, ask for a top-level project like Nemo | 16:41 |
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| chouchoune | lbt: yes, will see with others | 16:47 |
| lbt | *nod* - let me know what you decide | 16:48 |
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| vgrade | I'm sure this used to work for me ssh -p 29418 vgrade@review.merproject.org gerrit ls-projects | 16:50 |
| vgrade | now getting 'Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. | 16:50 |
| vgrade | Permission denied (publickey).' | 16:50 |
| chouchoune | lbt: yep, anyway, I'll be happy to review your vendor doc (just for fun at least ;)) | 16:50 |
| lbt | vgrade: have you done ssh-add ? | 16:51 |
| vgrade | lbt, nope | 16:55 |
| vgrade | following http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution | 16:56 |
| lbt | it sounds like you're running a local ssh-agent and haven't added the key you use | 16:56 |
| vgrade | thanks | 16:56 |
| lbt | hmm | 16:57 |
| vgrade | lbt, bingo, will add that to the wiki for fedora users | 16:57 |
| lbt | it's a general ssh issue, not fedora | 16:58 |
| vgrade | ok | 16:58 |
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| vgrade | http://www.pastie.org/3113603, what am I missing, I added -s to commit? | 18:08 |
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| Stskeeps | check git log | 18:13 |
| vgrade | I think its because I did'nt have author | 18:16 |
| vgrade | just signed off by | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | can i see your git log? | 18:16 |
| vgrade | sec | 18:20 |
| Sage | ffs. can't get the n950 to boot again :/ | 18:22 |
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| Sage | ocf went through ok. but doesn't work :/ | 18:23 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, http://www.pastie.org/3113691, thats after I ammended to add author and committer | 18:24 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, still giving same error 'not signed off by' | 18:41 |
| Sage | vgrade: should that signed-off-by: be the last line of the text? | 18:46 |
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| vgrade | Sage, yes, thanks | 19:05 |
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| vgrade | After the push does the automation kick off reviews/builds or do I need to do something? | 19:43 |
| Stskeeps | it kicks off automatic testing yes | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: i don't actually see any packaging mistakes :) | 19:50 |
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| vgrade | ok , thanks, is the process documented somewhere, from after the push | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | is how it theoretically should go | 19:53 |
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| vgrade | ok thanks, bit of span buildinbg up in the wiki | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | yes, we should revert it | 19:55 |
| vgrade | not the process page :) | 19:55 |
| vgrade | I'll do some pruning | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: https://github.com/MeeGoIntegration/open-build-service/tree/transparent_prjlinks is latest prjlinks patch? | 20:00 |
| phaeron | yes | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:02 |
| phaeron | upstream may have moved forward a bit | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | any things to watch out for? | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | except for our friend build-compare | 20:02 |
| phaeron | no | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | k | 20:08 |
| phaeron | make sure to restart the workers | 20:08 |
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| phaeron | there's a bit I was going to review but shouldn't affect you now | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:11 |
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| vgrade | http://www.tizenassociation.org/ whats this now | 21:41 |
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| vgrade | EXHIBIT C | 22:09 |
| vgrade | ANNUAL DUES | 22:09 |
| vgrade | Two Hundred and Twenty Thousand US Dollars (US$220, 000.00) | 22:09 |
| vgrade | we'll not be part of that then ! | 22:09 |
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| vgrade | an no mention of intel | 22:15 |
| vgrade | looks like limo foundation going for it with everyone except intel | 22:21 |
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| sledges | 'ello! | 22:57 |
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| Wizzup | Is there an overview of what functionality mer supports on the n900? Or what it doesn't support yet? | 22:59 |
| sledges | Mer or Nemo mobile? | 23:01 |
| sledges | unless you like answering phones via terminal | 23:01 |
| Wizzup | I was talking about drivers mainly | 23:10 |
| Wizzup | so - Mer | 23:11 |
| wmarone_ | not mer | 23:11 |
| wmarone_ | nemomobile adaptation for N900 specifically (I think) | 23:12 |
| Wizzup | Isn't Mer the core (iow drivers and stuff) | 23:12 |
| wmarone_ | mer is the core, but it does not include device adaptations | 23:12 |
| virtuald | http://www.linneasskafferi.se/images/2009/mer_47019190.jpg | 23:12 |
| Wizzup | wmarone_: Nemo then :-) | 23:13 |
| wmarone_ | catch stskeeps in #nemomobile for specific questions on that | 23:14 |
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| sledges | goodluck | 23:19 |
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| cxl000 | morning Stskeeps | 23:48 |
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