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| sethstorm | cxl000: I got you the config you were looking for, if you didnt notice | 01:32 |
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| cxl000 | morning sethstorm yes at a glance you are missing CONFIG_KEYBOARD_TSC2301 for keyboard. | 01:39 |
| sethstorm | (hopefully I'm not catching you too early) | 01:42 |
| cxl000 | 12:42pm | 01:43 |
| sethstorm | the svn of last night seemed to at least give me the lock slider | 01:44 |
| sethstorm | for openwrt | 01:44 |
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| sethstorm | (as a reference to the upstream source of the kernel) | 01:45 |
| cxl000 | Could you try http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/cxl000:/n810:/l31/Mer_Core_armv6l/armv6l/kernel-adaptation-n810-3.1-42.1.armv6l.rpm | 01:46 |
| cxl000 | removing omap-rng.ko | 01:46 |
| cxl000 | I've not fully recovered all functions on my laptop after having to rebuild it so I'll check out those update when I'm back home | 01:49 |
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| sethstorm | ok, no problem | 01:51 |
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| sethstorm | boots, no keyboard response | 02:00 |
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| sethstorm | lock slider does respond | 02:01 |
| sethstorm | headphone gpio responds | 02:02 |
| sethstorm | and as expected, the touchscreen. | 02:02 |
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| sethstorm | I'll have the cxlinfo up in a bit | 02:28 |
| cxl000 | sethstorm I can now put instruction up so other n810w user can try and boot | 02:30 |
| sethstorm | ok | 02:30 |
| sethstorm | http://caonima.de/images/n810/logs-new/cxlinfo*/ | 02:31 |
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| sethstorm | should you want to take a look | 02:37 |
| cxl000 | I have to head home now and will have a look in about an hour | 02:39 |
| sethstorm | again, no hurry at all | 02:39 |
| * sethstorm wonders how many others with n810w's have poked around, since it sounds like not many at all | 02:39 | |
| sethstorm | at least, recently | 02:39 |
| cxl000 | There is at least one more person who has given it a try | 02:41 |
| cxl000 | on their n810w | 02:41 |
| sethstorm | similar issues? | 02:42 |
| cxl000 | yes kernel panic on rng | 02:43 |
| sethstorm | ok | 02:43 |
| sethstorm | really wish I could make a serial jig for these things | 02:44 |
| sethstorm | (given the pads under the battery) | 02:44 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:31 |
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| Sage | wow, mic git tree published :) | 05:38 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | arh crap, my talk for FOSDEM actually got accepted | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | i thought it was so outrageous that it wouldn't | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 05:59 |
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| * Sage pokes libreoffice with a stick | 06:10 | |
| Sage | How can I get this text wrap working | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | i'm working on toolchain upgrade, seems like we have some fun ahead of us | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | linker has become better | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3008982 | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | ie, you don't get away with indirect symbol usage | 06:12 |
| Sage | http://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/misc/text-wrap-problem.png <- how to get that text wrap activated? :) | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | too early in the morning :P | 06:14 |
| Sage | I woke up about 2 hours ago so I think it is too early for me the whole day ;) | 06:14 |
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| Stskeeps | ah lovely | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | our ncurses is 5.7 | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | latest is 5.9 | 06:21 |
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| Stskeeps | morn phaeron | 06:23 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: morning | 06:23 |
| phaeron | Sage: hey they released mic ;) | 06:23 |
| Sage | phaeron: noted :) | 06:24 |
| Sage | still no responses to my mail though | 06:24 |
| phaeron | yeah. I noted in the git log it seems gerrit is used a bit internally | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | well, gitorious MR is crap, so :P | 06:27 |
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| Stskeeps | alien_: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/nemo-handset-i586-testing-0.20111128.3.CE.2011-12-01.2.ks | 06:43 |
| marquiz | morn | 06:45 |
| Stskeeps | morn marquiz | 06:45 |
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| marquiz | vgrade: interesting, let me know when/if you're ready to do more testing | 07:04 |
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| vgrade | morning | 07:11 |
| vgrade | marquiz, anytime | 07:17 |
| vgrade | marquiz, well I have to go out in about an hour for a couple of hours | 07:18 |
| marquiz | vgrade: morn | 07:19 |
| vgrade | marquiz, morning. do I get charging while in this mode? | 07:19 |
| marquiz | vgrade: it didn't even try to really re-partition so it shouldn't have messed anythin | 07:19 |
| marquiz | vgrade: yep, charging is there | 07:20 |
| vgrade | marquiz, good, I'll leave it attached then | 07:20 |
| marquiz | vgrade: there's a new version in http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/marquiz:/n950/CE_Adaptation_N950-armv7hl/armv7hl/ | 07:21 |
| marquiz | so you could try that | 07:21 |
| vgrade | marquiz, ok , what are the changes? | 07:21 |
| marquiz | some more logging :) | 07:21 |
| marquiz | or, you could telnet into moslo and check how much free space there is on the harmattan user partition | 07:22 |
| marquiz | # mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt | 07:22 |
| vgrade | I'm telnetted in now | 07:22 |
| marquiz | # df -h | 07:22 |
| marquiz | vgrade: k, try those | 07:23 |
| vgrade | 3.2G | 07:24 |
| marquiz | ok, that's the reason | 07:24 |
| marquiz | not enough space | 07:24 |
| marquiz | moslo tries to create a 4G partition for the 2nd OS | 07:25 |
| marquiz | maybe i should reduce that to 2.5G or so | 07:25 |
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| IanWizard-Cloud | Ok, Stskeeps, hook me :) | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | 'lo | 07:26 |
| marquiz | it seems that there's a lot of stuff on the eMMC on "stock harmattan" | 07:27 |
| Stskeeps | well, it's easier to just stay in here to see what's going on :) http://review.merproject.org -> All, Merged helps showing where our development is happening | 07:27 |
| vgrade | marquiz, I thought we had a 9G partition on the N950 | 07:27 |
| marquiz | yep | 07:27 |
| marquiz | we have | 07:27 |
| marquiz | (as on n9) | 07:27 |
| marquiz | but on n950 there's a lot of free space | 07:27 |
| marquiz | vgrade: i get back to this in the evening | 07:29 |
| vgrade | no probs, thanks | 07:30 |
| marquiz | vgrade: i try to write a dual-bootable n9-version in which the re-partitioning doesn't fail ;) | 07:30 |
| marquiz | vgrade: thanks for your help | 07:30 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: i can almost assure you we'll have fallout from next mer release :) | 07:49 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: why? :) | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: gcc enforces the "don't use symbols from anywhere but your directly linked libraries" quite a bit | 08:02 |
| * dcthang forgot to join nemo-meeting | 08:02 | |
| Stskeeps | mer-meeting | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | and it's today | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: this should also mean faster startup :P | 08:03 |
| Sage | hmmp... the next release contains glib2 and gcc? | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:04 |
| Sage | ok | 08:04 |
| Sage | I just need to remember to delete the glib2 from CE:MW:Shared when it is in Mer core | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3009258 is list so far and there'll be more changes | 08:05 |
| dcthang | yes, mer-meeting :) | 08:06 |
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| * Stskeeps adds one more package to the "what was this person smoking when making this packaging" list | 08:24 | |
| dcthang | smoking and drinking coffee. | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | basically libgcrypt was providing the pkgconfig .pc file for libgpg-error, a totally seperate package | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:26 |
| w00t | wf | 08:26 |
| w00t | *wtf | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 08:26 |
| Sage | o_0 | 08:27 |
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| * Sage ponders why the xkeyboard-config updated so easily with Mer | 09:08 | |
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| Sage | I recall having problems in the update in MeeGo and didn't do it because of some dependency issue. | 09:09 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: i just submitted a bunch of package upgrades, mind doing a manual review on them? | 10:01 |
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| Stskeeps | morn mingwandroid | 10:09 |
| mingwandroid | 'lo | 10:10 |
| mingwandroid | merged? ;-) | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it's building away | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | i've had to fix some packages as we have a saner binutils now | 10:10 |
| mingwandroid | great. oh yeah, what was the change? | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | mostly packages using symbols from -ltinfo and assuming they were in -lncurses | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | and some that forgot to depend on libm | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | we use -Wl,--as-needed in mer | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | review.merproject.org has my patches | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | have you played any with eglibc by chance? | 10:13 |
| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: no mate, are you thinking of moving over to it? | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, for footprint purposes | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | but that's further away | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | i'm contemplating a bit a split between mer core and mer toolchain/build | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | and technically cross compiling everything | 10:18 |
| mingwandroid | when will these toolchain packages filter their way into general usage? | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | so mer core isn't required to be self-hosting | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | the toolchain packages? next release | 10:18 |
| mingwandroid | ... | 10:18 |
| mingwandroid | are they rolling releases? | 10:19 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, we do rolling releases, in the future we'll admit things if they don't break stuff | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | ie, we get reports from vendors it's OK to upgrade this and this | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is that core is always stable | 10:19 |
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| Stskeeps | morn mdfe | 10:20 |
| mdfe | hi | 10:21 |
| mdfe | good morning | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe: as a heads up: we'll be integrating a new toolchain (GCC 4.6.2 Linaro 2011.12) in next mer release, along with binutils, so be aware that packages that forget to declare proper library dependancies, may break | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | stuff like using ceilf from libm while not having -lm in LDFLAGS= | 10:22 |
| mdfe | holpefully not till after PA2 release | 10:22 |
| mdfe | ah | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | when is that again? | 10:22 |
| mdfe | hopefully today | 10:22 |
| mdfe | but I'm not sure | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | ah, ok, yeah, not today | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | we're still rebuilding core with new toolchain so | 10:23 |
| mdfe | First I like do build a PA version in KDE:Trunk | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:23 |
| mdfe | awesome | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: if you're curious about how we possibly could do cross compilers, https://build.opensuse.org/project/packages?project=home%3Aolh%3Across , template-* packages seem interesting | 10:24 |
| mdfe | really greate job of your team | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | it'll take at least a few days to verify things work OK before the mer release, so we shouldn't interfere with the PA2 release | 10:25 |
| mdfe | this would be very nice :) | 10:25 |
| mdfe | its stressy enough | 10:26 |
| mdfe | at the moment ;) | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | so you're going for qt 4.7.4 based? | 10:26 |
| mdfe | only for the meego base | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | o | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | k | 10:26 |
| mdfe | mer base is still on your upstream version | 10:27 |
| mdfe | but we have some issues x86 based | 10:27 |
| mdfe | no idea why, but PA came on arm up and x86 not | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | let's talk about them tomorrow i guess, so you can concentrate on PA2 release :) | 10:28 |
| mdfe | thx | 10:28 |
| mdfe | :) | 10:28 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: sure, will check at some point | 11:00 |
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| Ans5i | is the qt5 going to be included in core as whole or only parts? | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | i think as a whole | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | just like we have qt4 as a while + webkit + mobility | 11:22 |
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| tbf | hey heroes | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | lo | 11:42 |
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| tbf | Sage: regarding the many dependencies of tracker... they are needed by the file system miner | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | better for #nemomobile maybe? | 11:43 |
| Sage | :nod: | 11:44 |
| tbf | you direct, i follow | 11:44 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: review.merproject.org/209 <- how do you see the comment in there? | 12:53 |
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| Stskeeps | it lists "1 comment" in the file | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i guess it's not really needed | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | (and i clicked "diff unified) to see it | 12:55 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: otherwise looked ok. Just those pkgconfig buildrequirements looked odd to me. | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:00 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: btw sent http://review.merproject.org/#change,215 | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:01 |
| Sage | Recalling doing that in meego t:t but there it didn't work properly not sure why. | 13:01 |
| Sage | I was planing to solve the deps in there but well no need apparently :D | 13:02 |
| Sage | maybe the updated packages in general have solved that already | 13:02 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: dbus-glib package should not be needed in mer core as the glib should contain the dbus bindings since version 2.26 see http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DBusBindings | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:15 |
| Stskeeps | ibdbus-glib-1.so.2dbus-glib-devel dbus-glib gconf ConsoleKit dbus-python upower | 13:15 |
| Sage | I can create a bug about that | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | what i'm wondering about.. dbus is written in glib | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, you're right | 13:18 |
| Sage | ah, bison 2.5 is gplv3 | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | that's ok, it doesn't go on a device | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | afaik | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 13:19 |
| Sage | oh, the old one is as well | 13:19 |
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| Stskeeps | then ok to upgrade | 13:20 |
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| Sage | .spec wasn't up to date | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:21 |
| _av500_ | ignre, me stupid | 13:21 |
| _av500_ | oops | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | _av500_: cat walked over the keyboard? :> | 13:22 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: glib2 doesn't require dbus to build dbus bindings(?) | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | maybe | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, seems not | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | that would be a nasty circular dependancy | 13:29 |
| Sage | bison and augeas pushed. | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | k | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | i'm still waiting for everything to build with new gcc | 13:30 |
| Sage | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57 | 13:33 |
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| Sage | as it is marked obsolete by upstream we really should investigate it so that it don't suddently hit us :) | 13:34 |
| w00t | gdbus vs dbus-glib? that's not trivial | 13:35 |
| w00t | afaik | 13:36 |
| Sage | I have no idea. | 13:36 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, sensorfw also has the DSO issue | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | usr/bin/ld: note: 'g_object_unref' is defined in DSO /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line | 13:49 |
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| w00t | heh | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | that's quite handy it does that, actually | 13:51 |
| w00t | well, yesss... | 13:51 |
| w00t | :P | 13:51 |
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| Stskeeps | afternoon lbt_ | 13:55 |
| lbt_ | hey | 13:55 |
| lbt_ | just wrapping up here | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | were you at the qt dev days too? | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | er, dev conference, whatever :P | 13:56 |
| lbt_ | no - couldn't make that | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:57 |
| lbt_ | not been thinking much about mer for a couple of days - proper break | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | sounds wise | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | i'm taking mine from 21-28 | 13:59 |
| lbt_ | better planning :) | 13:59 |
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| mer_install | anyone have time to help flash mer jff2 images on my n810? | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | old mer is pretty obsolete, i wouldn't waste time on it if i were you | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | and instead look into cxl000's hardware adaptation of new mer | 14:53 |
| mer_install | i looked at that, but there is no jff2 image to simply flash the n810 with? | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | there isn't, you'll need a minisd card instead | 14:54 |
| mer_install | can i put any of the rootfs on one of the two internal memory cards instead of external minisd? | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | that's slightly more difficult | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | there's only one internal memory card, fwiw | 14:56 |
| mer_install | ok, the 2 gb one | 14:57 |
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| cxl000 | mer_install the n8x0 adaptation is not ready to replace maemo as you still need maemo to recharge the battery | 15:19 |
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| cxl000 | and repartitioning the internal mmc requires it not to be in use. | 15:22 |
| cxl000 | Do you have a minisd or microsd to mini adapter? because booting of the externel card is going to be the easiest way. | 15:28 |
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| Sage | cxl000: is there oss components to charge n8x0 with mer or is that proprietary stack? | 15:37 |
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| bigbluehat | cxl000: is there a wiki page anywhere for getting Mer onto an SD? | 15:38 |
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| dazo | Is there any Mer images available for N900? | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | dazo: Mer's just a core, but the Nemo mobile project provides a N900 hardware adaptation and on top of that, the Nemo Mobile UI | 16:08 |
| dazo | ahh! | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | so you can make your own images with mer + n900 hardware adaptation + whatever you want, or nemo mobile ui + n900 + mer | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo | 16:08 |
| dazo | cool! Thx! | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | so what are you hoping to do? | 16:09 |
| dazo | Get something fresher and more up-to-date than maemo5 ... but I'd like to flash it on the internal memory ... I've tried MeeGo from a class10 SD card, which was nice to see how things works, but way too slow for real usage | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: do recall we're kinda derived from meego, but a lot slimmer core | 16:11 |
| dazo | If I see there are source code on things which annoys me, I would of course submit patches ... but so far that's been impossible on maemo5, due to my annoyances has been on the closed pieces | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | it's all OSS | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | simple as that | 16:11 |
| dazo | that's why I'm looking in this direction ;-) | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | well, except for parts in hardware adaptation, but you have to be crazy to deal with those in the first place | 16:12 |
| dazo | heh :) | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | mer is oss, nemo UI is OSS, hardware adaptation has some ugly parts | 16:12 |
| * Sage sees a huge amount of updates needed with packages starting with lib | 16:12 | |
| dazo | yeah, hw is always a rats nest .... my annoyances have been mostly on the calendar side | 16:13 |
| dazo | and somewhat on the mail client, but not that much I've tried to look into the code yet | 16:13 |
| dazo | (I was about too, but then I saw Nokia completely ignoring Modest bzs .... and then MeeGo came shortly afterwards) | 16:13 |
| dazo | Sage: packages starting with lib .... that's quite a big pool to start swimming in :) | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | the good news is we have harmattan qml components so it's easy to get started | 16:15 |
| dazo | Stskeeps: do you know if it is risky to try to flash the internal memory with the Nemo image? If I find out that it looks so good I want to play more seriously with it? | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | dazo: i would really recommend the class10 sd instead | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | all of us develop on that | 16:16 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: 25 package updates in my todo queue for tonight ;) | 16:16 |
| dazo | I see ... okay, I'll give it a whirl | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: oh dear | 16:16 |
| Sage | Just need to wait until I get home to faster network ;) | 16:17 |
| Sage | One movie and about 2hours and that should be done :P | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 16:17 |
| Sage | It was about 5mins per package last time | 16:18 |
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| Stskeeps | can i see the list, out of curiousity? | 16:18 |
| Sage | you will not like it and probably won't want them in either without testing ;) | 16:19 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3011025 | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | ah, i was actually hoping you got to those | 16:20 |
| Sage | oh | 16:20 |
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| Sage | well you are in for a treat then :) | 16:21 |
| Sage | 1/g 20 | 16:24 |
| Sage | yey, the lag in 3g :P | 16:25 |
| Sage | these lon tunnels and train do not make it easy environment for for 3g :P | 16:26 |
| Sage | ah, the list isn't that long actually. Some of those packages are the newest version already | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | http://felipec.wordpress.com/2011/12/13/a-tale-of-just-another-linux-kernel-bug/ | 16:31 |
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| Sage | :/ only 11 tota update count :/ | 16:49 |
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| Sage | only couple of those was lacking a more than x.x.y | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | well it's good if it takes 5 minutes to update | 16:52 |
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| Stskeeps | mm? | 17:31 |
| marquiz_ | evening | 17:31 |
| Sage | http://review.merproject.org/#q,status:open,n,z | 17:31 |
| Sage | ;) | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | well that should keep BOSS busy.. | 17:31 |
| Sage | 13 to go ;) | 17:32 |
| mer_install | cxl000: Okay, thank you, I am already having issues with Maemo OS2008 charging the battery, I can format the 2 GB internal while Maemo is on the N810 (which it is already ext3 with a swap partition). I can't find my SD to miniSD converter, so this would seem the best option | 17:34 |
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| w00t | Sage: dear god | 17:37 |
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| marquiz_ | Sage: regarging the connman issue, i packaged the latest connman release in my home | 17:40 |
| marquiz_ | I'll test it when i have time | 17:40 |
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| Sage | ok, maybe that is it ;) | 18:03 |
| Sage | total 20 package updates :P | 18:04 |
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| Bostik | bleh, found out I had forgot to cherry-pick one commit from my "megakludgery" branch to master qt5 specs :/ | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: do you record the places you found the packages as you went? | 18:07 |
| Sage | lol, the review page has next page ;) | 18:08 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: those are in the URL or Source fields of spec | 18:08 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 18:16 |
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| Stskeeps | i've found some packages where it was simply impossible to locate them | 18:17 |
| Sage | well hwdata update I extracted from fedora package ;) | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:22 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/SolidRun-CuBox/ <- potential mer target | 18:40 |
| Sage | wow | 18:41 |
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| Stskeeps | debian + xbmc demo provided, too | 18:42 |
| Sage | Where can I get one :) | 18:42 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.solid-run.com/ | 18:42 |
| Sage | 800 MHz dual issue ARM PJ4 processor, VFPv3, wmmx SIMD and 512KB L2 cache. | 18:43 |
| Sage | dual issue <- what does that mean? | 18:43 |
| mingwandroid | Issues two instructions per clock | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | no NEON, but so it goes | 18:44 |
| mingwandroid | basically there's two sets of the frontend instruction decode logic. | 18:45 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: where did you see the xbmc demo? | 18:45 |
| Sage | They mention it in the webpages and wiki but no content | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: they mention it on the http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i guess it's a fresh announcement | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | no video | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twEoMYEJls4 | 18:46 |
| jonnor_work | Hey, what is the name of the tools you guys use to automate the release process. This message passing thingy | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | jonnor_work: BOSS? | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/BOSS | 18:48 |
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| jonnor_work | Stskeeps, exactly | 18:49 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I'm thinking to get another board in addition to panda as I'm still failing to get proper picture out of the panda on my own TV :/ | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:50 |
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| Sage | oh, no wifi in that one? | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | just gbit ethernet, i guess | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | and usb | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | but it has infrared support.. | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | and eSATA support | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | so that weighs itu p | 18:51 |
| Sage | seems to perform quite decently in that vide | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | if it comes with GNU/Linux GLESv2 and video drivers.. | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | especially gstreamer | 18:53 |
| Sage | Interesting device, just want to see the available source codes before thinking of buying one. Don't want to get stuck with proprietary stack. | 18:54 |
| Sage | what was the nvidia tegra2 based box btw? | 18:54 |
| Sage | trimslice, did we see mer port on it already? | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | trimslice | 18:55 |
| Sage | ah, well that one is a bit expensive. | 18:56 |
| zumbi_ | efika | 18:56 |
| zumbi_ | I mean would be nice to port mer to efika | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | efika smartbook or which? | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | or smarttop | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | zumbi_: did you get further with your panda mer image? | 19:01 |
| jonnor_work | Stskeeps, is the Mer BOSS process available anywhere? git repo, et.c. ? | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | jonnor_work: Mer one is yes, sec | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | we don't center much around OBS though | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | hang on | 19:03 |
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| Stskeeps | jonnor_work: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/boss-workflow.git;a=tree - gerrit-hooks/ will have the process and what initiates the proess | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | proces | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | s | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | participants has well, participants (python scripts), in the process | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | the Nemo process is a bit more OBS-centric, can't recall where it's hosted atm | 19:05 |
| jonnor_work | Stskeeps, thanks | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | very flexible framework, i plan that we do most of the project's processes in it, in order to be able to say that if someone is unsatisfied with the process, they can send a patch for review to fix it ;) | 19:06 |
| jonnor_work | hm, the participants seems to be pure Python, but the gerrit hook has some inline ruby code? | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that's ruote | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | http://ruote.rubyforge.org/ | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | that's the core of it all | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | very powerful stuff | 19:08 |
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| Stskeeps | and quite easy to get into when you get what's going on | 19:10 |
| jonnor_work | Stskeeps, so this hook gives the overall-configuration of how different participants work together | 19:11 |
| jonnor_work | ? | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | so, basically, imagine that you have a workitem - a sheet for everyone to write on and pass along | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | the ruote process description determines how this workitem is passed around to participants and in which order, what to do in error conditions, and so on | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | participants get the work item and act upon it | 19:13 |
| jonnor_work | so participants have no direct control of who gets the work item next, right? | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | the hook to gerrit is basically what starts a process, makes an initial workitem and starts it | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | right | 19:13 |
| jonnor_work | and this process is short-lived right? That is, it does not run all the time, but is started by the gerrit hook and completed when all participants have done their job | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | when the process is done, it exits yes | 19:15 |
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| Stskeeps | you can also wait, for example "wait for 6 months", etc | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | the processes are saved and restarted, it's important not to idle / wait inside a participant | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | what are you hoping to use it for? | 19:17 |
| jonnor_work | Might be interested in using it for Maliit upstream | 19:17 |
| jonnor_work | We have a Buildbot instance now, but for interaction with other systems, like OBS or Bugzilla it might be useful do use a more general framework | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | the Nemo process can interact with OBS, bugzilla, send messages to irc, etc | 19:18 |
| jonnor_work | especially because it opens for the possibility of sharing the partcipicants et.c. | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:19 |
| jonnor_work | at least I'm hoping it would do that :) | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:19 |
| jonnor_work | could even do fancy integration/automation of upstream+downstream processes | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | something that watches an upstream bug for a downstream issue.. | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | i'd be happy to see more people involved in process automation | 19:22 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3012053 binfmt thing again? | 19:47 |
| Sage | it says registering binfmt handlers in the beginning though | 19:47 |
| Sage | and this worked for me couple of days ago :) | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | yes, binfmt | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | qemu-binfmt-conf.sh ? | 19:47 |
| Sage | don't have that on this comp apparently | 19:50 |
| Sage | and it has been working without problems for a long time | 19:50 |
| kimju | have you used some other virtualization software meanwhile? at least using virtualbox seems to break my qemu envs. | 19:50 |
| Sage | ah, virtualbox yes | 19:50 |
| Sage | removing it helps? | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | i look forward to finishing the SB2 integration, no more fooling around with binfmt | 19:51 |
| kimju | stop virtualbox, restart qemu. then stop qemu, restart virtualbox.. | 19:52 |
| kimju | only one can be configured/running at a time | 19:52 |
| Sage | restart qemu? | 19:52 |
| Sage | how? | 19:52 |
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| Sage | removed qemu and rebooted didn't help | 19:56 |
| Sage | err... removed virtualbox | 19:56 |
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| * Sage hates this every month problem | 19:59 | |
| Sage | kvm virtual machines run fine | 19:59 |
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| Sage | ls | 20:05 |
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| cxl000 | Sage there is a oss battery management driver. It detects charger plug/unplug but I dont think it automatically charges. I need to look at the code. | 20:13 |
| Sage | can someone send me the binfmt sh that works? | 20:14 |
| Sage | took one from qemu packaging but that doesn't do anything | 20:14 |
| Sage | lots of | 20:14 |
| Sage | ./scripts/qemu-binfmt-conf.sh: line 38: echo: write error: Invalid argument | 20:14 |
| * Sage is frustrated on this same problem | 20:15 | |
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| cxl000 | bigbluehat http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N8x0 describe current status. dd the image to the external card. The n8x0 running maemo will act as a storage device or use a card reader. unmount all card partitions before dd'ing | 20:18 |
| bigbluehat | gotcha. | 20:21 |
| bigbluehat | thanks, cxl000 | 20:21 |
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| vgrade | Sage, my copy, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5715485/binformat.sh | 20:26 |
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| Sage | vgrade: Error (5xx) | 20:28 |
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| Sage | ah, now it works | 20:29 |
| Sage | but the qemu doesn't :/ | 20:31 |
| * Sage gives up and puts pandaoard back to the box | 20:31 | |
| phaeron | Sage: I remember that happens when something has already registered that binfmt | 20:33 |
| phaeron | afair | 20:33 |
| Sage | phaeron: well, still no idea how to fix | 20:33 |
| phaeron | one second there was a way to check and unregister | 20:34 |
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| Sage | I have been fighting with this issues once a month last 2 years or so.. it is really getting in to my nerv. | 20:36 |
| phaeron | Sage: ls /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/ | 20:37 |
| Sage | alpha arm armeb m68k mips mips64 mips64el mipsel mipsn32 mipsn32el ppc register sh4 sh4eb sparc status windows windowsPE | 20:37 |
| phaeron | ok and cat /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/arm | 20:38 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3012337 | 20:38 |
| phaeron | Is that the correct qemu ? | 20:39 |
| Sage | no... fixing | 20:39 |
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| Sage | umm... how? :) | 20:40 |
| phaeron | on debian I use update-binfmts | 20:42 |
| Sage | no such command in fedora | 20:43 |
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| Sage | pah, copied qemu-arm-static to /usr/bin/qemu-arm but still doesn't work | 20:44 |
| Sage | err... local/bin | 20:45 |
| Sage | what | 20:45 |
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| phaeron | it looks for it in /usr/local/bin | 20:47 |
| Sage | apparently. no idea how to change that though | 20:47 |
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| phaeron | http://git.kernel.org/gitweb.cgi?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/binfmt_misc.txt;hb=HEAD | 20:48 |
| phaeron | You can remove one entry or all entries by echoing -1 to /proc/.../the_name or /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/status | 20:48 |
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| Sage | yey | 20:50 |
| phaeron | you probably have an init script doing that wrong registration on boot | 20:50 |
| Sage | echo -1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/status, and then executed the binfmt stuff again and it ot the rigth binary | 20:50 |
| Sage | phaeron: thx | 20:51 |
| phaeron | yep | 20:51 |
| phaeron | Sage: welcome | 20:51 |
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| zumbi_ | Stskeeps: hey! sorry I went away | 22:09 |
| zumbi_ | Stskeeps: well efika smartbook and smarttop, any of both or both would be superb | 22:10 |
| zumbi_ | Stskeeps: yes, I saw xbmc running on the pandaboard, but did not get much further on the OBS stuff | 22:11 |
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| mer_install | cxl000: thanks for your work on Mer toward the N810 | 22:19 |
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| mingwandroid | urgh. | 22:34 |
| mingwandroid | I mean "hello". | 22:34 |
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