Monday, 2011-12-12

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sethstormcxl000: (of a recent 3.1.0 compile)00:10
sethstormas for trying to get 2.6.21-omap1 to boot into mer, all that results in is an apparent hang at the Nokia logo00:11
sethstormfor a log of other files in /var/log (e.g. xorg)
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Stskeepsit's monday, i don't expect anything remotely productive to happen today06:57
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phaeronStskeeps: good monday morning :)06:59
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Stskeepsmorn vgrade07:09
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z720who manage to boot N9 with mer?08:19
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StskeepsSage: did we have anything that explicitly depended on new glib2?08:48
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SageStskeeps: Something in CE:MW:Shared08:55
Sagenothing in Mer core requires that atm.08:55
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Sageany reason why you asked?08:56
Stskeepsnah, just curious08:56
SageStskeeps: I'm recommending of adding this to mer core soon when I get it tested:
Sageatm. tryign to see if mer core has all the tools for it :)09:00
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Stskeepsyeah.. i need to check out what's wrong with dependancy build for qmf/mobile-broadband09:04
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SageStskeeps: remove the Makefiles from those btw, those are really not needed there :/09:09
Sagejust something that spectacle does automatically, so user can call make instead of specify :P09:10
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Sagemorning marquiz09:15
marquiznew nemo image expected this week?09:17
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Stskeepsmorn mece09:19
marquizSage: k09:19
Sageok, can someone tell me how user is supposed to send patches from git to mailing list properly?09:19
SageI would like to send patches with a comment to a ML.09:20
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Sagemarquiz: sending the n950 patches to ofono ML as Aki promised to look at them If I do so :)09:20
mecesince qgil accepted me for raspberrypi dev device (I don't know what kool-aid he's been drinking) I was thinking on running mer on that thing. Does it play nice with Qt5 somehow?09:23
Stskeepsmece: we have qt5 packaging but it's a bit of WIP09:24
Stskeepsas qt5 is a very moving target09:24
Stskeepsthe primary focus is qt5 on rpi :)09:24
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BostikI'm working on getting QtQuick3D up (location depends on it) right now09:24
mecesweet sweet.09:24
mecemoving target is fine.09:24
meceAs I now happen to be working on an iptv company I'09:24
mecem aiming to get our services working through that whole thing too.09:25
mecewe'll see how that goes.09:25
StskeepsBostik: location depends on qtquick3d? oh dear09:25
meceanyway, getting mer running some sort of qmlviewer would be a great start :)09:26
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Bostikand quick3d hasn't been updated after QSG*/QQuick* API split...09:26
Bostik(not to mention the build assumes you're running as admin on OSX among other nasty bits)09:26
Bostikonce I get this monster in shape, upstream WILL get a patch series09:27
Stskeepsalong with you standing with a baseball bat if it doesn't get in?09:27
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BostikI'd like to impress the developers with a swift stroke from a clue-by-four09:28
Bostikbut what can I do+09:28
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Stskeepsbtw, we should have qtwebkit 2.2 on armv7hl in order once new toolchain comes in09:31
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Stskeepsit fixes the nice little compiler crash we had09:33
BostikI tossed lbt my version last week, which hopefully worked for him09:33
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* Stskeeps wants for Mer09:35
Stskeepsthey're aiming for 1299 USD09:36
Sagewell, that doesn't so too bad actually09:36
Stskeepsa microsoft surface is 8100 USD or somethng09:37
Sageyes, that was not affordable.09:38
mecewas 1299 for screen only or for the one with a computer built in?09:38
Stskeepsthat's for the whole thing, i think09:39
* Sage would like to go to CES now :)09:40
Stskeepsadd in some NFC tag readers..09:40
Sage\o/ got the pattern builder to build patterns09:41
Sagein obs against mer core09:41
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Sageok, sendmail doesn't actually sendmail on my laptop :P09:46
Bostik"GMA acceleration card" on the exodesk09:49
Bostikoh ffs09:49
Stskeepswell, have to keep it cheap i guess09:50
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marquizSage: cool, you managed to patch ofono n950 gprs data?09:56
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Sagemarquiz: no, haven't really tested these patches on ofono 1.0. Aki is the original author so he might be able to help.09:57
SageI would say that getting gprs working on N900 would be the first thing :)09:58
* Sage learns how to do git send-email09:58
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marquizSage: k09:59
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Sagelets see if the patches appear in the ofono ML :)11:08
Sageat least I was able to sent patches with git sent-email to my gmail account so it should work.11:08
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Stskeepsi hope the environment isn't as brutal as the meego kernel list, heh11:09
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Sagehmmp.... doesn't look good.11:11
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Sagecan someone guide how to debug why only mail to goes properly with git send-email?11:21
StskeepsSPF perhaps?11:22
Stskeepshow do you send it? through googlesmtp servers?11:22
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SageI have no idea. Never configured any of this.11:23
SageI just worked to mailbox :P11:23
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Sagewhere can I configure the smtp server for example?11:23
Sage <- might help11:24
* Sage tries.11:24
Sageok, that seems to help11:29
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Sagehow did that work to the in the first place :P11:29
StskeepsSage: do you need to activate anything special for the partition alignment stuff for panda btw?11:30
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SageStskeeps: current mic2  handles it fine, why?11:32
Stskeepsran into odd issues with nook color11:33
Sagewell, the thing is that you need to have x-loader that has the fixes for the hardcoded partition layout11:33
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Sagebut not sure if nook uses x-loader?11:34
Stskeepsit does11:34
Sageyou have --active on the /boot part line?11:35
Sagethat creates the bootable flag to the partition table so it finds it properly11:35
Stskeepsyeah, that' might be an issue11:36
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Sage\o/ (cc: marquiz)11:41
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mingwandroidStskeeps: hi12:30
mingwandroidI'm ready to commit (finally!)12:30
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mingwandroidgit commit -s -a -m "Updated to binutils 2.22" -> is this right? I'm a bit confused by the Sign-off thingy.12:31
Stskeepslooks fine12:31
Stskeeps--amend after you already did a commit, i assume?12:31
Stskeepsshow me git log afterwards12:31
mingwandroid-s -a -m = signoff, all changes, message?12:31
Stskeepsah yes12:32
mingwandroidshall I press the button ;-)12:32
Stskeepshehe, go ahead12:32
Stskeepsthe git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master is where the magic happens12:32
mingwandroidneed to copy some ssh files around and ammend the author..12:32
marquizSage: you already got some comments12:37
marquizi guess i was the original author of patch 3/3, but it's a oneliner hack so it really doesn't matter for me ;)12:38
Sagemarquiz: ah, didn't know that (probably should have guessed it though). The .changelog in mer didn't mention author. :/12:39
marquizSage: np :D12:39
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marquizSage: i might have time in the evening to take a look into ofono12:40
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marquiz(on n950, that is)12:40
mingwandroidI've probably done something wrong though ;-)12:43
mingwandroid(that's binutils first)12:43
Stskeepslooks OK12:44
Stskeepsdon't be surprised if automatic review doesn't like it12:44
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mingwandroidI had to chmod +x for some reason?12:45
Stskeepsusually we just sh precheckin.sh12:45
mingwandroidah ok12:46
mingwandroidso what should I do next? Wait to see how that one works out or checkin the gcc changes too?12:47
Stskeepsjust go for the gcc changes right away too12:48
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mingwandroidStskeeps: ok, all in.13:00
mingwandroidgetting unsatisfied dependencies on Core_i486.13:01
Sagemarquiz: normal as the binutils isn't in yet13:02
Stskeeps:nod: no surprises13:02
Sagemingwandroid: :)13:02
Stskeepsmingwandroid: thanks, i'm waiting for a build cycle to finish and i'll evaluate those next13:04
mingwandroidcheers! brb.13:04
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Sagephaeron: ping13:06
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Sagephaeron: I can't accept
Sagephaeron: seems stuck13:07
Sageerr.. nm :D13:07
Sage3543 just appeared13:07
Stskeepsmingwandroid: i think i'll take a swing at cleaning up binutils packaging a bit13:08
mingwandroidpost-merge or pre-merge?13:11
Stskeepsfor after we've merged this13:12
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SageStskeeps: feature suggestion. Build logs with the release for packages.15:00
Stskeepsi suppose that should be possible15:00
Stskeepscan you file a bug against Mer Policies and Processes -> Other, for now?15:00
SageWould be nice to see the logs at times that if the configuratios etc. has gone as planned.15:00
Sagedone MER#5415:02
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aaaaaahello all15:39
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marquiz_vgrade: still interested in testing dual/single-boot on n9?16:31
marquiz_i could write a special n9-moslo for you to allow single-boot, at least16:32
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Stskeepsif it's possible to flash a single-boot moslo that'd be interesting at least16:41
Stskeepsthough how would it bypass nolo? kexec?16:42
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marquiz_Stskeeps: one needs to flash it to the kernel partition16:45
marquiz_even non-secure dual-boot should be possible (with kexec)16:47
marquiz_just take the harmattan kernel from mtd before flashing into it16:47
Stskeepsyeah, true16:49
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vgrademarquiz, yes I am.  I was looking at the init and autopartiton scripts yesterday but I don't speak the language that well .  I noticed there was a print partition size function which I thought about running to see maybe why it failed last time16:52
marquiz_vgrade: yep,16:54
marquiz_i could actually upload a new version which has better debugging facilities16:54
marquiz_(and yes, i hate shell scripts, too)16:55
vgrademarquiz_, I added some notes to your home page on the wiki on where we are, hope thats ok16:57
marquiz_vgrade: k, i hope my disclaimers are strong enough ;)16:58
marquiz_vgrade: new version of moslo building16:58
marquiz_not a n9-specific, yet16:58
marquiz_but you could try loading it (with -b -l options)16:59
marquiz_it shouldn't reboot, now16:59
marquiz_and, you should be able to telnet into it and check logs16:59
marquiz_to find out what happened16:59
marquiz_it's ready, now17:00
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Stskeepsmingwandroid_: you're going to hate me - you forgot to do a .changes file entry17:01
Stskeepsthat needs to be fixed :)17:02
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vgrademarquiz_, do I need to setup usb networking on the host.  I seem to recall seeing some instructions for N900 on the wiki before17:05
vgrademarquiz_, thanks for this btw17:05
marquiz_vgrade: yep, in order to telnet you have to set that17:08
marquiz_either "# ifconfig usb0 up"17:09
marquiz_or then make it automatic17:09
vgrademarquiz_, thanks, thats first on my list for after dinner17:10
marquiz_vgrade: k, let us know (again) what happens ;)17:12
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marquiz_Stskeeps, Sage: ofono seems to work ok on n950, at least when run from the cmdline18:01
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mingwandroid_Stskeeps: ah crap. sorrry18:05
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Stskeepsmingwandroid_: no problem18:05
* Venemo_N950 is sad - guys at #active say that their x86 Mer-based images don't work.18:06
mingwandroid_Stskeeps: is that not just once I've been asked to make a change though?18:06
mingwandroid_Stskeeps: I guess for the initial change you're saying?18:06
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Stskeepsmingwandroid_: .changes file should be added for each commit, at least18:07
StskeepsVenemo_N950: something about relying on 4.7.418:07
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mingwandroid_Stskeeps: the link you sent doesn't mention a .changes file explicitly??18:09
Stskeepsmingwandroid_: no, just how to amend a changeset18:09
mingwandroid_ok. going to swap machines to get this done... brb.18:09
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mingwandroidStskeeps: should I try to amend the commit or just push another one?18:12
Sagemarquiz_: cool, the curren 0.52 version?18:12
Stskeepsmingwandroid: amend with the ChangeId: thing18:12
Stskeepsand push to same place18:12
mingwandroidStskeeps: I'm a bit crap with git.. can you do some hand holding on this bit?18:13
mingwandroidStskeeps: do I edit gcc.changes first?18:13
Stskeepsedit it, add a changelog entry, git add and git commit --amend18:13
mingwandroidAnd I guess it'd be best if I mirror the commit message exactly?18:13
Stskeepsand in --amend add the ChangeId: thing as mentioned18:14
Stskeepsyes, without newine18:17
Stskeepspastie me the commit message before you save?18:18
mingwandroid git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master18:18
mingwandroidgrand. done gcc. onto binutils...18:18
mingwandroidxfering now actually.18:19
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mingwandroidStskeeps: I'm an idiot. I put the Change-Id from binutils into gcc.18:24
Stskeepsdid it fail?18:24
mingwandroidnot that I've seen ;-)18:27
mingwandroidgit is calling my addition of 2.22 and removal of as a rename?!18:28
Stskeepsyeah, i was surprised to see that too18:29
mingwandroid_I know it's a bit clever sometimes about detecting the nature of changes, but a bz2 file?!18:29
mingwandroid_md5sums differ (and I'm sure I got it from the right place)18:30
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marquiz_Stskeeps: how does one get account to
marquiz_i'd like to comment bug #1018:52
Stskeepsmarquiz_: make one on bugs.merproject.org18:54
marquiz_Stskeeps: thx!18:55
mingwandroid_Stskeeps: ok I think I've done everything now.18:56
BostikStskeeps: I pushed fresh qt5 specworks a couple of hours ago, and quick3d + location should now build nicely (my patches disable hardfp from V8 by default, the patch should be skipped on *hl arm architectures I think)19:00
Stskeepsmingwandroid_: cool, let's review..19:01
Stskeepsdoes binutils build without the new gcc?19:02
Stskeepsok, it seems it does19:03
StskeepsPatch43: gcc46-arm-volatile.patch was already merged upstream?19:03
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Stskeepsin binutils, binutils- was merged upstream too?19:04
mingwandroid_(for both)19:04
Stskeepsok, i'm merging both - don't be frightened of this, it's just something to be able to test it19:06
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Stskeeps you can probably click abandon change on19:07
mingwandroid_Where is that?19:10
mingwandroid_is this patch 1?19:10
Stskeepsyeah, i think it was a hiccup19:11
Stskeepswhen you submitted19:11
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mingwandroid_There's an "Abandoned" link at the top?19:12
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Stskeepsin Patch Set 1, there's a button to "Abandon Change"19:13
Stskeepsi would hope19:13
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mingwandroid_got it.19:14
Stskeepsmingwandroid_: just to see what i'm doing now:19:15
mingwandroid_ah so you tell it the specific commit to use?19:16
Stskeepsthe git itself is described in git19:16
mingwandroid_ok, so how are other people insulated from those changes?19:18
Stskeepsright now? not very, i'm just first releasing binaries at a certain point19:18
Stskeepswe will put a proper release process up soon, which does these pickups according to
Stskeepsso people would follow release branches usally19:18
mingwandroid_ok so if someone started to compile a package on COBS it'd use thos gccs?19:18
Stskeepsright now you manually pull new updates/releases19:19
Stskeepsso until i make a mer release and update COBS, you're not using it19:19
mingwandroid_I gotta go. will be back in about 1 hour.19:20
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Stskeepsmingwandroid: get an account on and then go to to observe20:03
Stskeepsjust so you can get a sense of how it's going :)20:03
mingwandroiddone. this is your own COBS?20:05
Stskeepsit's my own OBS, we call it the CI obs as it delivers mer releaes20:05
Stskeepsso it's reserved for mer core build work20:05
mingwandroidok cool.20:06
mingwandroidcreating symbolic link `/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/gcc-4.6.2-1.1.i386/usr/lib/gcc/i586-meego-linux/4.6.2/': No such file or directory20:06
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Stskeepsyeah, that's an awkward failure20:08
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Stskeeps+ FULLLPATH=/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/gcc-4.6.2-1.1.i386/usr/lib/gcc/i486-meego-linux/4.6.220:09
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Stskeepsi think we found a bug :)20:11
Stskeeps /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ${realfile} /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/gcc-4.6.2-1.1.i386/usr/lib/gcc/i586-meego-linux/4.6.3/include/objc; \20:17
Stskeeps done20:17
Stskeepsthis doesn't sound good20:17
Stskeepsthis failure shows up in too20:18
Stskeepsso, i guess we have to move to 4.6.3 as version?20:18
Stskeepsi guess this issue showed up after we upgraded to 2011.1220:19
Stskeepsverify first on cobs and then send a patch, we'll just add another patch fixing this issue :)20:20
Stskeepsi want to test through with binutils anyway first20:20
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Stskeepsshould be enough to simply global gcc_version 4.6.220:23
Stskeeps -> 4.6.320:23
Stskeepsand precheckin.h20:23
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Stskeepsif you do that, i'll merge it in the morning probably20:27
mingwandroidI've done it, committing to OBS now.20:28
Stskeepswe'll probably have the wipebinaries problem, but right now priority is fixing gcc, cross compilers will likely work20:28
mingwandroidServer returned an error: HTTP Error 401: basic auth failed20:28
Stskeepson cobs?20:29
Stskeepsdidn't you change your password earlier?20:29
Stskeepsremove it in $HOME/.oscrc20:29
mingwandroidyeah. sorted, transmitting file data... shall I wait for this to complete after wipebinaries, then once gcc i586 has built ok, create a new gerrit commit?20:30
Stskeepsjust when gcc i586 has built ok, make a gerrit merge, yeah20:30
mingwandroidok done wipe, fingers crossed.20:31
mingwandroiddamn linaro for skipping the last part of the gcc version number (and damn me for not testing it a bit first!)20:32
Stskeepsthat's why we need automatic processes :)20:33
Stskeepsto tell us when we screwed up, ideally fast as possible20:33
mingwandroidyup. gerrit does all that does it?20:33
Stskeepsit just sends a signal and starts a process20:33
Stskeepsbut it doesn't do it well enough (yet)20:33
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mingwandroiddo you need some other system to do the CI stuff then? Or is it a matter of setting gerrit up more?20:34
Stskeepswe have a workflow engine behind it, called BOSS, based on
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Stskeepsand some participants in it, made in python20:35
mingwandroidhow busy is the mer mailing list? worth signing up to it?20:35
Stskeepsnot very busy, and for sure20:35
Stskeeps;a=tree if you're interested to see more about the process stuff20:36
Stskeepsthe idea is to make transparency into the fabric of the project, and process to be formally defined, then there's no back door deals :P20:36
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mingwandroidStskeeps: ok that built.20:56
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Stskeeps   cool21:03
mingwandroidI committed to git as well...21:03
Stskeepsyep, will merge in the morning21:04
mingwandroidnice one.21:04
Stskeeps(i'm already in bed and my lazyness doesn't extend to making mobile interfaces for mer process..)21:06
Stskeepsthanks for fixing21:06
alien_Stskeeps: I just saw your llvmpipe screenshot, do you have a kickstart for it?21:09
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Stskeepsalien_: yes but ask me tomorrow21:20
Stskeepsalien_: it's on my off laptop so21:20
alien_it can wait21:21
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vgrademarquiz, I have telent access now22:46
vgradeERR: Re-partitioning failed! No partition created.22:47
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mer_installcan someone help with a mer installation?22:53
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mer_installMer Installation Error:
mer_installWhen someone returns, can they post the answer here or link here to a pastebin? Thanks.22:55
vgrademer_install, lets have a look22:55
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mer_installvgrade: sudo fixed it, but the n810 bios seems corrupt after, like the voltage is going somewhere it shouldn't22:56
vgrademer_install, probably a question for cxl000 and the guys22:57
mer_installvgrade: okay, I justed used those commands on the wiki22:58
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mer_installthis is the wiki that I used:
mer_installTried the instructions twice, it could be the latest kernel used for Mer maybe23:04
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vgradeah those are very old instructions23:06
vgradehave you seen23:06
cxl000They are old Mer instructions23:06
cxl000Try for current status and instructions23:07
vgradecxl000, hi mate23:07
cxl000morning vgrade23:07
vgradei'm using flasher as well this evening but on N923:08
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mer_installvgrade: can you point me to the latest jff2 and kernel images for n810?23:12
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phaeronfinally they released mic on github ..23:14
mer_installi'll jump back in later, have to go, but definitely want to work on getting Mer on the N810 via images later23:15
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cxl000mer_install I am expecting to upload a new image real soon now and will update the wiki when done. you need to copy the image to your external MMC and use flasher to boot23:31
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