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| vgrade | mingwandroid, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Avgrade%3Ag9testing | 00:18 |
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| mingwandroid | you still up? | 00:18 |
| mingwandroid | ;-) | 00:18 |
| vgrade | you can use the saerch box on the top right of the GUI | 00:19 |
| vgrade | just about | 00:19 |
| mingwandroid | make a .ks, but running into an error.. | 00:19 |
| mingwandroid | Problem: pattern:nemo-middleware-shared-.noarch requires maliit-framework, but this requirement cannot be provided, uninstallable providers: maliit-framework-0.80.8-1.5.Nemo.armv7hl[mer-shared] | 00:19 |
| mingwandroid | http://pastebin.com/H7CunZ0p | 00:20 |
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| vgrade | you can remove your repo, and the xorg cat stuff, no idea abou the maliit stuff but you don;t need for plasma | 00:26 |
| vgrade | ping Sage about that maliit error | 00:27 |
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| vgrade | sorry leave the xorg I was thinking trinslice | 00:28 |
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| vgrade | too late | 00:28 |
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| mingwandroid | hmm, can mic give me more info when things go wrong? | 00:35 |
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| mingwandroid | night all. | 00:37 |
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| iekku | morning | 06:03 |
| dm8tbr | moaning | 06:03 |
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| * Stskeeps curls up in a corner with his cup of coffee | 06:32 | |
| araujo | Stskeeps, o/ | 06:33 |
| araujo | Stskeeps, how you feeling today? | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | quite good, i usually have really rough mornings | 06:37 |
| * w00t is not having a good morning | 06:38 | |
| Stskeeps | it's also snowing outside | 06:38 |
| araujo | w00t, o/ , what's up? | 06:38 |
| w00t | i'm quite tired | 06:38 |
| * araujo got headache too | 06:39 | |
| iekku | :/ | 06:40 |
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| Stskeeps | morn andre__ | 06:46 |
| iekku | andre__, o// | 06:46 |
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| andre__ | yo yo Stskeeps & iekku! | 06:46 |
| iekku | andre__, in what time zone you are? | 06:46 |
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| andre__ | Central Yurop. | 06:47 |
| iekku | andre__, can't be! too early :D | 06:47 |
| andre__ | The early worm strangles the bird, as we say here! | 06:47 |
| iekku | :D | 06:48 |
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| vgrade | morn | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | morn vgrade | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | seems like the mer pi team got accepted | 06:58 |
| vgrade | great | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, good to know my sales pitch helped a bit :P | 06:59 |
| vgrade | I really think that board will go far | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | think we got something useful out of those discussions | 07:00 |
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| Sage | vgrade: mingwandroid was missing one repo from his .ks file the CE:MW:Shared | 07:03 |
| Sage | vgrade: ok, nm. It is there. | 07:03 |
| * Sage needs to wake up | 07:03 | |
| vgrade | yea, thought it was there. Old mic? | 07:04 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: if you noticed, mic-0.2 was published on meego.com obs, it would be good if we can investigate utilizing that instead | 07:05 |
| Sage | vgrade: maybe --pkgmgr=yum option needed | 07:05 |
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| vgrade | Sage, got to be his config as that ks built ok for the G9 | 07:06 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, mingwandriod fixed the GCC error in the script, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Araydonnelly%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Ai586 | 07:08 |
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| Stskeeps | installing cross-armv7l-gcc-accel-armv7l-4.6.2-10.1.Mer | 07:08 |
| Stskeeps | "GCCVER: gcc (GCC) 4.6.1 20110627 (MeeGo 4.6.1-1) GCCVER_NEW: gcc (Linaro GCC 4.6-2011.11) 4.6.2 20111026 (MeeGo 4.6.2-1) " | 07:08 |
| Stskeeps | GCC and GCC-accel versions don't match. Rollback also binutils... | 07:08 |
| Stskeeps | did he wipebinaries? | 07:09 |
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| vgrade | probably not | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:09 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: didn't notice that. | 07:09 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: where did you see that SR? | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: http://build.meego.com/package/files?package=mic&project=devel%3Atools%3Abuilding | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | and what SR, i just spotted the update ;) | 07:10 |
| Sage | heh :) | 07:11 |
| Sage | those guys would really need BOSS :D | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | but anyway, if we can somehow get rid of mic2 that'd be nice | 07:12 |
| Sage | :nod: I'll check that mic thing | 07:13 |
| dcthang | anyone knows why after starting qemu, the screen is black ? | 07:14 |
| dcthang | check this: http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.2/Troubleshooting -> "3) Launching QEMU just shows a black window. No MeeGo UI appears" but it does not help | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | we don't use qemu in mer sorry | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | well, at least not for anything with SDK at the moment | 07:14 |
| dcthang | ok | 07:15 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: first try and http://pastie.org/2984677 :D | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | if you'd like to try Mer plus LLVMpipe for virtual machines, i can help you in that direction | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yay | 07:15 |
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| Sage | I already fixed similar problem in mic2 at some point. Any news from their git tree? | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | no, haven't seen it around | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | i suppose it's missing like the rest of tizen | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | at least they're releasing tarballs | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | we can bomb them with patches until they realise a git tree is good? | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:16 |
| w00t | it doesn't work, they just ignore your patches (see open merge requests for qt on gitorious) :P | 07:17 |
| Sage | Stskeeps, phaeron: So not fully compatible ;) http://pastie.org/2984685 | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | woops :P | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | sure -c is for .ks'es still? | 07:18 |
| phaeron | they invented a new ks format ? | 07:19 |
| vgrade | and mic is newer than mic2? | 07:19 |
| Stskeeps | if it's xml someone will be against the wall | 07:19 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/2984691 <- this help page is not very clear :D | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | indeed | 07:20 |
| phaeron | sections sound like ini ? | 07:20 |
| w00t | and why is it still called mic, and not tic? :D | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: "my image creator" | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:20 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/2984694 :D | 07:20 |
| Sage | oh, come on :D | 07:20 |
| w00t | at least it's not Usage: read the source, like | 07:21 |
| w00t | luke* | 07:21 |
| Sage | w00t: well they are using default python cmdline parsers so it comes automatically ;) | 07:21 |
| Sage | wow now I got some progress :D | 07:23 |
| * Sage read the README file ;) | 07:23 | |
| Sage | sure, and there it is again: http://pastie.org/2984703 | 07:23 |
| Sage | this feels worse than mic2 :D | 07:23 |
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| Stskeeps | --arch= needed? | 07:24 |
| Sage | that was like that in the readme so I wouldn't think so | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but probably against a i586 repo.. | 07:25 |
| Sage | will se very soon | 07:25 |
| Sage | Error <config>: Invalid arch armv7hl for repository. Valid arches: armv7nhl, armv7l, i586 | 07:25 |
| Sage | \o/ | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | uhh.. | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:25 |
| Sage | I could write about 20 bugs already :D | 07:25 |
| Sage | and hey I have used it almost 15mins | 07:26 |
| Sage | Error <creator>: Can't find package manager: zypp (availables: yum) | 07:26 |
| Sage | this just keeps getting better and better :D | 07:26 |
| w00t | Sage: that's due to your plugin error | 07:26 |
| w00t | Warning: /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/_zypp.so: undefined symbol: _ZN4zypp14Arch_armv7tnhlE, skip plugin backend/zypppkgmgr | 07:27 |
| Sage | w00t: yes | 07:27 |
| Sage | I know just fun to get more and more errors ;D | 07:27 |
| w00t | :P | 07:27 |
| Sage | wow, now it says DONE and uses 100% cpu :D | 07:27 |
| Sage | Info: 466 packages to be installed, 0 packages gotten from cache, 466 packages to be downloaded | 07:28 |
| Sage | \o/ downloading files | 07:28 |
| phaeron | are you sure it is not using mic2 behind your back :D | 07:28 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: could you guide me something about that way? llvm +mer | 07:28 |
| Sage | phaeron: I installed this on clean machine so yes :) | 07:29 |
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| Sage | phaeron: I didn't want to break my working mic2 ;) | 07:29 |
| phaeron | ok because it sounds scarily familiar | 07:29 |
| Sage | phaeron: yes, I fixed that kind of problem before in mic2 at least | 07:29 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/test-x86-mesa.ks , mic-image-creator -f livecd --save-kernel --arch=i686 --record-pkgs=name --cache=~carsten/NOBACKUP/tablet-cache --outdir=~carsten/NOBACKUP/tablet-os --run-mode=1 --config=test-x86-mesa.ks | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: adjust --cache= and --outdir= to your liking | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: that'll give you a bootable .iso for virtual machines | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | on X86 | 07:31 |
| dcthang | ok, tnx. I will try that out. | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | it will boot into qmlviewer with opengl activated, build on top of that | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | i wonder how many devices are in 'kiosk mode' around the world, actually | 07:41 |
| Sage | Stskeeps, phaeron: http://pastie.org/2984747 | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | looks like qemu not getting installed | 07:42 |
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| Sage | \o/ audio works on pandaboard on Mer out of the box btw :P | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 07:49 |
| kyb3R | :) | 07:49 |
| Sage | I have no idea why it didn't work when I last time tried :P | 07:49 |
| Sage | 3.5mm plug though but still | 07:50 |
| Sage | ok, this mic stuff needs work. | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:53 |
| Stskeeps | just wanted to evaluate it, could be interesting to check out kiwi too | 07:53 |
| phaeron | Sage: looks like passwd was not found ? | 07:55 |
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| * Sage sent mail to meego-distribution-tools | 08:06 | |
| Sage | I really would like to see the mic in use but for that they need to start working with us :) | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | there's always kiwi but that's not doing .ks'es | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | and instead uses xml | 08:10 |
| dcthang | Ststkeeps: which is mainrepo? | 08:12 |
| dcthang | Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option. | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | we really need to add that to wiki | 08:12 |
| Sage | dcthang: I would say bug in mic but well it has workaround :) | 08:13 |
| Sage | err.. mic2 ;) | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | mic-create-bootstrap -n trunk -k /var/cache/mic -r http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/latest/repos/oss/ia32/packages/ -o /var/cache/meego-bootstrap | 08:14 |
| dcthang | ah ..:p | 08:14 |
| * Sage smiles as he has no idea why the audio changed between reboots from 3.5mm plug to HDMI :D | 08:26 | |
| Sage | on panda that is | 08:26 |
| * dcthang mic running nicely, I should change to build something on arm | 08:27 | |
| Stskeeps | for mer+llvmpipe, only on x86 for now | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:28 |
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| matrixx | Stskeeps: wow, yay for us :) | 08:32 |
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| dcthang | okay, but it can't boot with the iso file | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: hmm? | 08:42 |
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| dcthang | The kernel requires the feature on the CPU: pae | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | i used virtualbox, works fine there | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | enable pae extension | 08:42 |
| dcthang | ok, so it starts Qt Quick example :P | 08:44 |
| dcthang | => it works | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | good | 08:45 |
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| mingwandroid | morning | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | morn mingwandroid | 09:01 |
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| mingwandroid | hey. | 09:01 |
| mingwandroid | that gcc thing worked. | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | did you wipebinaries? | 09:01 |
| mingwandroid | yeah | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 09:01 |
| mingwandroid | --all | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | i wonder why it still fails then | 09:01 |
| mingwandroid | the non-cross ones? | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 09:02 |
| mingwandroid | virtual memory exhausted: Cannot allocate memory | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it's a stupid qemu problem.. | 09:02 |
| mingwandroid | Any work around? | 09:03 |
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| mingwandroid | I need both cross and non-cross to build before I can proceed? | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so, disable the building of the cross compilers and then wipebinaries, then let gcc build through on ARM side, then enable the cross compilers | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | as you can see, the current cross approach has it's issues | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | you can do this in Repositories tab in each package | 09:04 |
| mingwandroid | I got to disable 20 packages? Any way of automating that? | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | ok, just disable the -accel ones | 09:05 |
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| mingwandroid | Build Flag -> All, All -> Explicitly disable? | 09:05 |
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| Stskeeps | right, for the -accel packages | 09:05 |
| mingwandroid | ok done. | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | let's see if that helps | 09:12 |
| mingwandroid | I also tried to refresh the vega ks, getting: | 09:15 |
| mingwandroid | 404 on http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/armv7hl/packages//repodata/repomd.xml | 09:15 |
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| mingwandroid | binutils still failing with "./unlink-if-ordinary.c:65:15: error: storage size of 'st' isn't known" | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | that's ok | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | it's not /releases/ anymore | 09:16 |
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| mingwandroid | ok, weird, did this change happen very recently? | 09:18 |
| w00t | it's not? | 09:18 |
| mingwandroid | it was working last night. | 09:18 |
| * w00t didn't see a mail | 09:19 | |
| mingwandroid | to a point ;-) | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | oh | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | actually... | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | you'r right | 09:20 |
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| Stskeeps | i botched a release | 09:20 |
| * Stskeeps tries again | 09:21 | |
| * Stskeeps ponders if he should just go back to bed | 09:22 | |
| mingwandroid | heh. | 09:22 |
| * mingwandroid ponders if he should go to work. he should | 09:22 | |
| Stskeeps | (ran out of disk space..) | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: could you add me in Users in your repo? | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | in the :Core:i586 one | 09:23 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: good morning | 09:37 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: I cannot find any reboot/halt/shutdown binaries on mer | 09:38 |
| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: Will do when I get to work. Back in a bit. | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: systemctl | 09:39 |
| mdfe_ | thx | 09:39 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: I have some very strange obs problems at the moment and no idea what I'm doing wrong | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: mm? | 09:51 |
| mdfe_ | The obs api url tells, I have some pakages in a project repostory I'm not able to delete | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | give me the exact error? | 09:53 |
| mdfe_ | project Project:KDE:Mer_Extras repo Mer_Extras_armv7l | 09:53 |
| mdfe_ | there is pvr-omap4 stuff inside I'm not able to delete | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | ok, and it tells you it can't remove them cos other people are using it? | 09:54 |
| mdfe_ | https://api.pub.meego.com/build/Project:KDE:Mer_Extras/Mer_Extras_armv7l/armv7el/_repository?binary=pvr-omap4&binary=pvr-omap4-libEGL&binary=pvr-omap4-libGLESv1&binary=pvr-omap4-libGLESv2&view=cpio | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | you can wipebinaries it, maybe | 09:54 |
| mdfe_ | I tried it for hours but it does not work | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | so, you want to delete pvr-omap4? | 09:55 |
| mdfe_ | yes | 09:55 |
| mdfe_ | but I cannot find a pvr-omap package inside http://repo.pub.meego.com/Project:/KDE:/Mer_Extras/Mer_Extras_armv7l/armv7l/ | 09:56 |
| mdfe_ | but via api url the obs get this package | 09:56 |
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| Stskeeps | you're right, that does look awkward | 09:57 |
| mdfe_ | If you take a look to https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Project%3AKDE%3AMer_Extras | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | well | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | as a start, all your packages are marked as don't build and don't publihs | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | so something will be tale | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | stale | 09:59 |
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| mdfe_ | you think I should disable the build and pubishing for all package in this project? | 10:01 |
| mdfe_ | and then wiping out all binaries? | 10:01 |
| mdfe_ | does I get it right? | 10:02 |
| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: what role should I add you as? | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: maintainer or whatever allows me to tinker | 10:02 |
| mingwandroid | ok | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: well, as a start, enable/publish | 10:02 |
| mingwandroid | done | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: why is it disabled in the first plce? | 10:02 |
| mdfe_ | because there are about 170 package inside this project and I just need about 10 at the moment | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:03 |
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| mdfe_ | ok I enable the publishing flag for all packages again | 10:05 |
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| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: my ks is building ok now, thanks. | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | good | 10:13 |
| mingwandroid | ...to a point... | 10:13 |
| mingwandroid | Installing: kernel-adaptation-vega ##################### [468/512]/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.nBPSk7: line 1: /sbin/new-kernel-pkg: No such file or directory | 10:13 |
| mingwandroid | that's my own kernel btw, so I guess I need to update something? | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | that's ok | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | ok, you can enable the -accel packages now | 10:14 |
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| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: did you fix anything or is it just an ordering matter? | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | ordering matter | 10:15 |
| mingwandroid | ok. | 10:15 |
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| Stskeeps | one of the reasons i wouldn't mind a properly staged gcc and different cross approach than what we have | 10:16 |
| matrixx | mingwandroid: pong ;) | 10:16 |
| matrixx | mingwandroid: yeah, we have a Mer team there :) | 10:17 |
| mingwandroid | matrixx: if it isn't too late could I be considered for it? | 10:18 |
| matrixx | mingwandroid: it's not too late, just add yourself to the accepted page :) | 10:19 |
| matrixx | I'm supposed to decide by 12.th | 10:19 |
| mingwandroid | where's that? | 10:19 |
| matrixx | there's a link before the applicant list | 10:19 |
| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: enabled -accel for all | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | ok, ignore the build error that comes now | 10:20 |
| mingwandroid | heh, I'm already there (raydonnelly) | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | have to wait for cross-armv7l-gcc-accel | 10:21 |
| matrixx | mingwandroid: oh, great :D | 10:21 |
| matrixx | nice to meet you :) | 10:21 |
| mingwandroid | a pleasure ;-) | 10:21 |
| matrixx | I added the candidates by searching "Mer" and added also people I know are working on Mer :) | 10:25 |
| matrixx | but if you know someone is working on Mer and is not on the list, let me know | 10:26 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: I also added pvr-omap4 again to the project, build the trouble causing binaries and wipe it out again | 10:28 |
| mingwandroid | matrixx: I'm fairly new to mer to be honest. | 10:29 |
| mdfe_ | but it does not have a effect :( | 10:29 |
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| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: we all are, to some extent | 10:30 |
| matrixx | I was just about to say the same :) | 10:30 |
| matrixx | and I have no experience to mentor anyone on Mer, it's just a formality | 10:31 |
| matrixx | we'll be working as a group :) | 10:31 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: my issue is solved | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | good | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | what was the issue? | 10:39 |
| mingwandroid | bbiab. | 10:39 |
| mdfe_ | I had ro add the pakage again to project, add 'use for build' and 'publishing' | 10:40 |
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| Stskeeps | ah | 10:40 |
| mdfe_ | after that I was able to disable and the wipeout works | 10:40 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 10:40 |
| mdfe_ | thx | 10:40 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: I was able to build and use a updated PA on mer and arm tablet | 10:41 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: today I try to get it running on x86 mer images | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | cool,congrats :) | 10:43 |
| mdfe_ | I'm happy too | 10:44 |
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| Sage | mdfe_: had time to test the peregrine stuff? | 10:47 |
| mdfe_ | mom | 10:47 |
| Sage | mdfe_: I added you as a maintainer to home:sage:telepathy so you can update the peregrine package in there. | 10:48 |
| Sage | mdfe_: I can move those package forward when ever someone says that telepathy in there works as it should :) | 10:49 |
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| mdfe_ | Sage: sorry, last week I was on vacation and this week I got no time for peregrine | 10:55 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: Greate thanks for adding me as maintainer | 10:56 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: today I have to get latest plasma active running on x86 mer, but I will also install peregrine to this image | 10:58 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: first I will try out the full blown dependency version and after that the stripped vesrion from you | 11:00 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: btw, isn't our libxcb ancien? | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | t | 11:15 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: only helps qt5, too ;) | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | still, just pondered | 11:17 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: no 1.7 which is the latest | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | ah ok | 11:18 |
| Sage | mdfe_: that is ok :) | 11:18 |
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| Sage | wow, xmllint is in mer core | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 11:35 |
| Sage | I though it was separete tool but it is included in libxml2 | 11:35 |
| Sage | I'm happy that means that I can use it :) | 11:36 |
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| mdfe_ | :) | 11:36 |
| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: Still running into problems with those gccs. | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: yes, as expected | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | hang on | 11:38 |
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| Stskeeps | urgh | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/2985486 | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | i think we need a new strategy on what version path it takes | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | the spaces really mess up things | 11:40 |
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| Stskeeps | it should be /4.6.2/ | 11:41 |
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| Stskeeps | and that's what it should compare on | 11:42 |
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| mingwandroid | err, yeah! | 11:46 |
| mingwandroid | that's odd. | 11:46 |
| mingwandroid | I use awk print $NF. Will look into it in detail in 12 mins. | 11:48 |
| mingwandroid | I can use awk in my scripts? | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | think so | 11:49 |
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| mingwandroid | I'm using: gcc --version | head -1 | awk '{print $NF}' | 12:04 |
| mingwandroid | ooh. | 12:05 |
| mingwandroid | one sec. | 12:05 |
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| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: should I wipebinaries again after making a change? | 12:13 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders | 12:14 | |
| Stskeeps | i suppose you can just wipebinaries cross-armv*-gcc-accel | 12:15 |
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| mingwandroid | osc wipebinaries cross-armv5tel-gcc-accel | 12:22 |
| mingwandroid | No option has been provided. If you want to delete all binaries, use --all option. | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | yes, --all | 12:22 |
| mingwandroid | ah ok | 12:22 |
| mingwandroid | can I use wildcards too? | 12:22 |
| mingwandroid | switching computers. brb. | 12:23 |
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| mingwandroid | right... ok disabled the cross*-accels again... | 12:37 |
| mingwandroid | was the ordering: | 12:37 |
| mingwandroid | disable, wipebinaries, wait for gcc to build then re-enable? | 12:37 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: does your repository scripts accept this as groups.xml http://pastie.org/2985693 ? | 12:38 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: it uses createrepo | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: in this case you can just enable them, they just need to be rebuilt | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: so it compares correctly | 12:43 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ok, well then that should be ok | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: sure createrepo does patterns? | 12:44 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: groups, have option for that | 12:48 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: Initial draft http://pastie.org/2985723 | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:49 |
| Sage | that should work for Mer core and for obs patterns | 12:49 |
| Sage | haven't tested it much yet though | 12:49 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | bbl ~30 mins | 12:50 |
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| matrixx | I see vgrade forked his own team at QtonPi ;) | 13:14 |
| matrixx | vgrade: once you've accepted, you can remove yourself from the Mer list in accepted page | 13:15 |
| matrixx | *you have been accepted | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | forked into what? :P | 13:17 |
| matrixx | education team | 13:17 |
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| randompasserby | Hey | 13:24 |
| randompasserby | Anyone here? | 13:24 |
| mingwandroid | no | 13:24 |
| mingwandroid | ;-) | 13:24 |
| randompasserby | Aw | 13:24 |
| mingwandroid | bye | 13:24 |
| randompasserby | Ill show myself out then | 13:24 |
| randompasserby | Anyway | 13:25 |
| randompasserby | Do anyone here know if it official that Nemo will find its way to N9? | 13:25 |
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| matrixx | randompasserby: try #nemomobile | 13:26 |
| randompasserby | oka | 13:26 |
| * matrixx isn't here | 13:27 | |
| mingwandroid | vgrade: got the new PA build running on vega. | 13:30 |
| mingwandroid | seems PA bombs out due to some power management issue. | 13:31 |
| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: the cross compilers have built ok | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:35 |
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| Stskeeps | "GCCVER: 4.6.2-1) GCCVER_NEW: 4.6.2-1) " | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | GCC and GCC-accel versions match. Enabling cross-compiler. | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | there but not quite | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | where does the "-1" come from? | 13:38 |
| mingwandroid | sec | 13:40 |
| mingwandroid | %global gcc_release 1 | 13:42 |
| mingwandroid | (AFAIK) | 13:42 |
| mingwandroid | I should probably change that to 2011.11 though? | 13:42 |
| mingwandroid | got to switch computers again. one sec. | 13:42 |
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| Stskeeps | just get rid of -1 and i think we're fine | 13:44 |
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| Stskeeps | just get rid of -1 and i think we're fine | 13:46 |
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| mingwandroid | You think I can change it to -2011.11, as that'd be most useful? | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | no, because it won't match with /usr/lib/gcc/version/ | 14:01 |
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| Stskeeps | 4.6.2 will do the trick :) | 14:33 |
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| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: ok. | 14:38 |
| * Stskeeps makes a mental note we really ought to clean up the toolchain.. | 14:39 | |
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| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: I'm not sure why the -1 hasn't been a problem in the past though, as I didn't add that stuff. | 14:52 |
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| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: I can't seem to download the compiled packages... | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 15:34 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: Anyway to disable Swipe function for Mer? any configuration for that? | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | well, it's not swipe, just gesture to switch | 15:37 |
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| dcthang | I mean this one http://thp.io/2011/swipecontrol/ | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | ah, no | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | that's unrelated | 15:39 |
| dcthang | ok :-) | 15:40 |
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| Venemo_N950 | hi everyone | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | hi | 15:43 |
| Venemo_N950 | :) | 15:44 |
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| Guest67384 | i'm having trouble running this QML example: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/declarative-cppextensions-qwidgets.html - I've build it with no modifications but QMLViewer will tell me that "MyPushButton is not a type" . I added a qDebug statement to registerTypes but that seems to indicate that registerTypes is never being called. Is there some way to see what plugins are being loaded, because | 15:49 |
| Guest67384 | i'm worried mine is not being imported? | 15:49 |
| Guest67384 | oh | 15:50 |
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| HazardousWaster | or, indeed to get it to list all the registered types | 15:51 |
| dcthang | This is about Mer/ Meego Community Edition. About those questions alike you should join qt or qt-qml room | 15:54 |
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| HazardousWaster | ok, thanks | 15:54 |
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| Tuju | is there some images to install already? | 16:39 |
| Tuju | i've n950 | 16:39 |
| damnshock | Tuju: http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/ | 16:41 |
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| Tuju | damnshock: ack, thanks. which flasher i need? I've fedora. | 16:42 |
| Tuju | is this rpm based system? | 16:43 |
| damnshock | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php | 16:43 |
| damnshock | yes, mer is rpm based | 16:43 |
| Tuju | finally! cool. :D | 16:43 |
| Tuju | which cli options i need to flash? | 16:49 |
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| Tuju | --kernel --initfs ? | 16:50 |
| Tuju | --rootfs ? | 16:50 |
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| * arc_mat scratches head over people getting excited over use of a package manager ... | 16:56 | |
| damnshock | that depends | 17:00 |
| damnshock | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | erm, no | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | use the ones from meego instructions | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950 | 17:01 |
| dm8tbr | arc_mat: package managers, the best since sliced bread, vi and emacs ... oh wait | 17:03 |
| damnshock | arc_mat: well, I'd love to have pacman on Mer :P | 17:05 |
| Stskeeps | there's no emacs in Mer | 17:05 |
| Stskeeps | only vim | 17:05 |
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| dm8tbr | :D | 17:06 |
| arc_mat | I don't quite get the idea of a package manager for anything mobile | 17:06 |
| HazardousWaster | i cursed for a few minutes, but then i went and learnt how to use vim, only 11 years after i first started using linux | 17:06 |
| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: Have you got a link to a package build where it was trying to use 4.6.2-1? Was it a build where you were trying to use the new cross compilers? | 17:12 |
| Tuju | damnshock: what is the firmware image? the nemo.....plaplaplaplapla--adaptiation-n950 ? | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: it was your gcc | 17:13 |
| Stskeeps | on arm | 17:13 |
| Stskeeps | you see it in the installation phase before it starts building | 17:14 |
| Tuju | flasher v2.5.2 (Oct 21 2009) | 17:15 |
| Tuju | Invalid FIASCO file header | 17:15 |
| Stskeeps | Tuju: follow instructions on wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950 | 17:16 |
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| Tuju | puuuh | 17:17 |
| Tuju | i'm not sure should i first get this powered up | 17:17 |
| Tuju | it has power button but it doesn't do anything. | 17:18 |
| dm8tbr | Tuju: 2.5.2 sounds wrong | 17:19 |
| Tuju | does it? i just got what instructed. | 17:19 |
| Tuju | ~/Products/Nokia/N950/Mer% sudo ../Maemo\ Flasher/3.5/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5 -F nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-testing-0.20111128.3.CE.2011-12-01.2-vmlinuz-2.6.32.20112201-9.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N950.N9-adaptation-n950 -f -R | 17:20 |
| Tuju | that came from the 3.5 binary anyway. | 17:20 |
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| * Stskeeps posts new mer release mail | 17:46 | |
| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: Where can I grab a built rpm? I want to check this folder thing out in detail. | 17:49 |
| mingwandroid | do I need to set the publish flags before it'll let me get them? | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: osc getbinaries is your friend | 17:49 |
| mingwandroid | cheers! | 17:49 |
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| Stskeeps | thanks for looking into this btw | 17:53 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/cfp/197?imm_mid=079f60&cmp=em-conf-os12-em1-sol-cfp (thanks Alison_Chaiken) | 18:19 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Deadline Jan 12. Speakers get free registration but no travel support. MeeGons, Tizen, Meriacs, please CC me if you submit. | 18:21 |
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| Stskeeps | we also have Open Mobile Linux devroom in FOSDEM this year | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | so that'll probably be first semi-official meetup of Mer people for a long time | 18:29 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | If nothing else, consider a Mer BoF at OSCON. | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | july is in my holiday period, so uncertain if i can go to the US there | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | (i start out with a week at a music festival.. then my birthday, etc..) | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | but yeah, if others in the US are coming, for sure | 18:33 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: started QA'ing libksba, libogg, lzo, libxkbfile, libvorbis | 18:40 |
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| Sage | ok | 18:44 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | mer pixman is 0.22 | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | and upstream is 0.24 | 18:58 |
| * Stskeeps files bug | 18:58 | |
| wmarone_ | Stskeeps: what are the package names for SGX support? | 18:59 |
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| Stskeeps | wmarone_: we don't really have any, it's up to the hardware adaptations to name their thing, they just have to provide libGLESv2.so.2 and libEGL.so.1 | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: are you beyond the udev issue yet? | 19:00 |
| wmarone_ | I seem to be | 19:00 |
| wmarone_ | there's still a lot of console noise but it's getting far enough along that X tries (and fails) to start | 19:01 |
| wmarone_ | which is significantly farther than before | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that's good, sec | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | what .ks are you using currently? | 19:01 |
| wmarone_ | the one you posted a few days ago that is basically the bare minimums | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:02 |
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| Stskeeps | so it boots up to qmlviewer, right? | 19:02 |
| wmarone_ | no, X does not yet start | 19:02 |
| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: hey. | 19:02 |
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| Stskeeps | lo mingwandroid | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | i mean, it's -supposed- to boot up to qmlviewer ;) | 19:02 |
| wmarone_ | ah | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/harbaum/Mer_Core_armv7l/ | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | add that repo | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | and | 19:02 |
| mingwandroid | ok, so I rpm -q -l -p gcc-4.6.2-10.1.armv7hl.rpm... | 19:02 |
| wmarone_ | well, guess we're still a bit away then | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | xorg-x11-drv-omapfb | 19:02 |
| mingwandroid | and nothing in there is /4.6.2-1/ | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: right, it's 4.6.2 instead, right? | 19:03 |
| mingwandroid | yeah | 19:03 |
| mingwandroid | which is what we want? | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: the script is in cross-armv7l-gcc-accel-arm or whatever the name is after it's been made into a armv7l.rpm | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | the same one you saw in precheckin.sh | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: after that, i hope xorg starts | 19:04 |
| wmarone_ | ok | 19:04 |
| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: I'm not sure what you're saying is wrong... can we take it from the top? ;-) | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: OK, remember precheckin.sh in gcc? it creates baselibs.conf which has some scripts about GCC_VER | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | those scripts turn into %post install scripts when the package is installed on ARM side | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | so it gets run when installing cross-armv7l-gcc-accel | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | which happens when a ARM build is being done | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | (you can see the output in armv7l's gcc build log) | 19:09 |
| mingwandroid | ah ok. I'll try to sort it out after dinner then; still not sure why it isn't a problem with the existing gcc as it also has a release number (and is in general very similar to mine) | 19:10 |
| mingwandroid | but I gotta fly now, so speak later. | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: the reason xorg doesn't start is simple, there's no xorg driver to start up :P | 19:11 |
| wmarone_ | yup | 19:11 |
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| wmarone_ | well when it complains about being unable to find them in the log (which it made!) it's easier to diagnose | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:12 |
| wmarone_ | if it gets far enough and I can put it on wifi | 19:12 |
| wmarone_ | I can grab more logs | 19:12 |
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| Sage | cobs broke? | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | Qt on Pi mailing list: http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qtonpi | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | ( matrixx , vgrade , mingwandroid, lbt_away , etc) | 19:52 |
| mingwandroid | ah cool. | 19:52 |
| mingwandroid | Stskeeps: So... I've unpacked the gcc rpm.. is the install script stuff in ./usr/share/info/gccinstall.info.gz? | 19:53 |
| mingwandroid | aparently not... | 19:57 |
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| Stskeeps | mingwandroid: nah, it's in the rpm's scriptlets :) | 19:58 |
| mingwandroid | yup, got it | 19:58 |
| mingwandroid | rpm -qp --scripts ../gcc-4.6.2-10.1.armv7hl.rpm | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | in the cross- one | 19:59 |
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| vgrade | matrixx, I don't want to leave the team, just wanted to get some of the eductional stuff going, thats the main part of the Pi foundation | 20:26 |
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| matrixx | vgrade: I see, actually I noticed that I'm also part of OpenGL team :) | 20:52 |
| matrixx | just worried if being there twice messes up some calculations | 20:52 |
| matrixx | but I don't think they accidentally send us two devices ;) | 20:53 |
| vgrade | I don't think there's a problem being a contributer and mentor | 20:53 |
| matrixx | Ok, let's just leave the teams how they are then :) | 20:54 |
| vgrade | I met Eben on Monday and its all about getting the kids to program again and I noticed that many of the educational pitches had not been taken up | 20:55 |
| vgrade | my work on Mer and Pi will continue | 20:56 |
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| vgrade | in fact it says that mentors may not be involved in the actual work of the team | 20:57 |
| vgrade | I'll add a note in my mentor pitch about not needing a device anyway | 20:58 |
| matrixx | yeah, the education is important, I don't know any kids at the moment who are interested of programming | 20:58 |
| matrixx | or maybe it just doesn't run in my family, and I'm the black sheep there :) | 20:59 |
| vgrade | Eben was involved in interviewing prospetive Computer Science graduates at Cambridge | 20:59 |
| vgrade | applicatiopns for a 100 a year intake have fallen from 500 per year to 150, and this is at one of the best unis | 21:00 |
| matrixx | oh, that's not promising :/ | 21:01 |
| matrixx | the situation was similar in the university where I studied | 21:02 |
| matrixx | almost every one got in to computer science | 21:02 |
| matrixx | then there were people who had actually applied to medical school and just hangaround until they were accepted | 21:03 |
| matrixx | and never considered computer science as a real option | 21:03 |
| vgrade | can't edit the page noe its gone to th accepted page | 21:09 |
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| mingwandroid | vgrade: I got a new root fs for vega. | 21:15 |
| mingwandroid | vgrade: following your archo g9 ks. | 21:16 |
| mingwandroid | PA crashes on startup though: | 21:16 |
| mingwandroid | KDE Power Management System: No valid Power Management backend plugins are available. | 21:17 |
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| vgrade | mingwandroid, that message used to just flash up for a second | 21:23 |
| vgrade | when you say crash? | 21:23 |
| mingwandroid | it flashes up for about 8 secs and as soon as it goes I end up dumped out to xterm. | 21:23 |
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| vgrade | and if you wait a while? | 21:24 |
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| mingwandroid | well it stays on xterm, no PA appears. also, annoyingly, mallit doesn't happen in xterm. | 21:24 |
| vgrade | anything in .xsession-errors | 21:25 |
| vgrade | so the maliit issue you had has gone away | 21:25 |
| vgrade | I though we had usb host | 21:26 |
| vgrade | the g9 image is good, I saw mdfe saying earlier | 21:27 |
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| mingwandroid | yeah. mysterious. we have usb host yeah, just not got the keyboard to hand ;-) | 21:35 |
| mingwandroid | I'll hack on with gcc though. | 21:35 |
| mingwandroid | get back to vega (to test gcc hopefully) once that's working. | 21:36 |
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| vgrade | marquiz, ping | 21:40 |
| felipec | anyone knows if there's .map file for the N900? The old one I had from MeeGo doesn't seem to work any more =/ | 21:41 |
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