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| sethstorm | testing the n810 image per the adaptation instructions, and both supplied kernels(separate of the image) are giving the same kernel panic early on in boot | 03:12 |
| sethstorm | (with the razor02 image, specifically) | 03:14 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 06:26 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: planning on setting up a obs 2.3 replica OBS today we can use to debug some issues on our typical mer setup | 06:50 |
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| Stskeeps | so we can see what happens with the localdep patch and possibly other extensions before putting them on mer deployment | 06:52 |
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| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: so monster is gone for good? in which case I should stop monitoring it. | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: pretty much | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | we have another obs, mer-ci which is currently only on the internal network | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | (mostly because it's not set up in it's final configuration yet) | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | which will be running continous integration checks etc | 07:59 |
| dm8tbr | *nod* | 07:59 |
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| Stskeeps | morn vgrade | 08:13 |
| vgrade | morning | 08:13 |
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| gprade | hello all, anybody there? | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | 'lo gprade | 09:37 |
| gprade | hello Stskeeps, how are you? | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | i'm good, about to run out the door though | 09:38 |
| gprade | ok, can i ask fast one question? | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 09:38 |
| gprade | how is the status of mer? i mean the cor itself, the infrastructur and nemo? | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | quite good | 09:39 |
| gprade | can you release? :-) | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | Nemo: http://t.co/25LQjVmO , Mer: review.merproject.org -> All, Merged, http://releases.merproject.org , etc | 09:40 |
| gprade | do you think it is the time to go to the manufactures and say, hey, take mer, it is functional enough to sell a phone with? | 09:41 |
| gprade | or what left, what you first need to develop? | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | we can already do phonecalls on Nemo and have a fairly nice UI working already | 09:42 |
| gprade | cool | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | the hard part of phones is always the hardware adaptation | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | but our main focus is small to medium businesses at first, they are the ones who can have most gain of Mer | 09:43 |
| gprade | but if the manufactures would say, they do the hardware things, the rest of mer and nemo is ready? | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | there's still bits and pieces missing | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | but do keep in mind we only launched like, 2 months ago | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | some things still to be done, but we're already quite nicely rolling :) | 09:44 |
| gprade | ok | 09:44 |
| gprade | nice, thanks for your work | 09:44 |
| gprade | do you buy a n9 now? you taked about one day (i read in the logs) | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | i haven't bought one yet, i've been too busy :P | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | my current goal is to properly launch Mer early january, with proper website, all backends showing, etc | 09:45 |
| gprade | ok, i wait sometime and hope it get cheaper, then i buy one, i hope i can oneday install mer and nemo on it | 09:45 |
| gprade | coooooooool, thats fast | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but a lot of hard work to be done | 09:46 |
| gprade | ok, if you need german translation, i said oneday, you can ask, and i will help | 09:48 |
| gprade | ok, have a nice weekend | 09:55 |
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| lbt | alterego: ping.... wiki move today? | 09:59 |
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| Venemo_N950 | morning :) | 10:18 |
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| ScriptRipper | lbt: ping | 11:34 |
| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps, I want to report an issue about x86 | 11:35 |
| ScriptRipper | it seems current x86 compilation flags or some package generates code | 11:35 |
| ScriptRipper | which does not run on all x86 processors, and I mean recent, on AMD | 11:35 |
| ScriptRipper | resulting in an illegal instruction reported at build time | 11:36 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, SSSE3 | 11:36 |
| ScriptRipper | I have tried it out on the *latest Opteron* processor, not any 5 year x86 machine | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | didn't you know this about meego? | 11:37 |
| ScriptRipper | I knew it bout meego | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so, we have two ports in Mer | 11:37 |
| ScriptRipper | I did not know it about Mer | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | SSSE3 port is i586 | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | i486 is i486 | 11:37 |
| ScriptRipper | I thought SSSE3 is *included* in the current Opterons | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 11:38 |
| ScriptRipper | uff | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | it's in bulldozer etc i think | 11:38 |
| ScriptRipper | I have the opterons 1 revision *before bulldozer* | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 11:38 |
| ScriptRipper | and otherwise mostly XEONs | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | that's why i have i486 port, i'm thinking to shift cross compilers to that | 11:39 |
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| ScriptRipper | so this would not work to build on the openSUSE OBS .... | 11:40 |
| ScriptRipper | uff | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | i never really agreed much with the SSSE3 thing in MeeGo | 11:40 |
| ScriptRipper | it was to market the ATOMS | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | yes, of course | 11:40 |
| ScriptRipper | what I did not know was that its not included in some *64 bit x86 processors* | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | xeon, i7, atom | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | and amd bulldozer | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | it's like the NEON of x86 | 11:41 |
| ScriptRipper | I thought it was inside Opteron *before Bulldozer*, my fault | 11:42 |
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| ScriptRipper | now Bulldozer is released, so problem solved | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:43 |
| ScriptRipper | I was just checking the new KVM inside QEMU 1.0 rc s before QEMU release | 11:43 |
| ScriptRipper | on an AMD machine also | 11:43 |
| ScriptRipper | so I ran into that | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | i'm probably going to investigate in mer at some point how much SSSE3 can simply be autodetected instead of default compilation | 11:44 |
| ScriptRipper | I was checking the ISA signalling and ISA support in KVM | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | just like we detect NEON | 11:44 |
| ScriptRipper | and I first thought its a KVM bug | 11:44 |
| ScriptRipper | but no | 11:45 |
| ScriptRipper | before QEMU 1.0 we *had a KVM bug* and a OBS worker bug | 11:45 |
| ScriptRipper | now some new KVM options are used | 11:46 |
| ScriptRipper | thats how I ran into it | 11:46 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:50 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: iirc ssse3 is autodetected fine in Qt but was hardcoded in glibc | 11:55 |
| lbt | Thiago did an analysis | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:56 |
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| ruphy | hola | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | hola | 12:25 |
| ruphy | i'd like to install mer for tablets. what is the image best suited for me? | 12:25 |
| ruphy | i'm kind of lost in the wiki | 12:25 |
| cxl000 | sethstorm these images and kernels have been used on both n800 and n810. Can you capture the console output to provide more detail on the kernel panic. | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | plasma active typically - remember Mer is just a core, so other projects do the actual combination of UI+Core+HW adaptation | 12:25 |
| ruphy | ok | 12:26 |
| ruphy | which plasma active? i've seen only meego and opensuse based ones | 12:26 |
| ruphy | i only want a base system to try out a fullscreen qml application | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that's another issue then | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | what kind of device you have? | 12:27 |
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| ruphy | exopc | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so, what you should do is to get mic-image-creator installed, combine it with Nemo project's X86 adaptation and build an image that boots into qmlviewer | 12:28 |
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| ruphy | Stskeeps: i could compile and launch it on the tablet, i think, which is probably easier | 12:29 |
| ruphy | it's just a testing environment :) | 12:29 |
| ruphy | but i appreciate the fact that i can easily build a completely custom image | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | still :) it's a good excersise to go through | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | we don't really have bare images atm so | 12:29 |
| ruphy | oh, i see, cool | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | what OS do you have on your typical development machine? | 12:30 |
| ruphy | fedora | 12:30 |
| ruphy | and well, plasma active should have worked for me if only i could use the wireless network :p | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | fedora 15? | 12:31 |
| ruphy | 16 actually | 12:31 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, should still work, -- add this repo: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/tools/repos/fedora/15/meego-tools.repo , yum install mic2 | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | then git clone git://gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/image-creator.git | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | and make, sudo make install | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | you can also just grab the dependancies of mic2 | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | (we -really- need to improve this, it's leftover mess from meego) | 12:32 |
| ruphy | the repo has fc16 packages in :) | 12:33 |
| ruphy | Stskeeps: eheh :) | 12:33 |
| ruphy | man, thanks a lot for your help, you rock | 12:33 |
| ruphy | warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 79fc1f8a: NOKEY | 12:34 |
| ruphy | Public key for libzypp-8.8.0-3.2.i386.rpm is not installed | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | no problem, if you feel like doing a wiki writeup with your experiences or file bugs on bizarre issues, that'd be nice | 12:34 |
| ruphy | where can i get that? | 12:34 |
| ruphy | sure thing :) | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | unsure, it might be in the repodata/ | 12:34 |
| ruphy | ok, let's do it | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | generally this is the way people usually do product images so improving this procedure is esential :P | 12:36 |
| ruphy | ok, cloning now.... | 12:37 |
| ruphy | Stskeeps: done :) what now? | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok, let me just cook you a .ks | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | i wanted to put mer on my exopc myself so | 12:39 |
| ruphy | ahah, awesome | 12:39 |
| ruphy | btw, are there plans for mer+qt5? | 12:40 |
| ruphy | i'd love to test that as well, if possible | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | yes, there is | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | we have packaging already but not actively built | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | we can't put qt4 and qt5 in same repo | 12:40 |
| ruphy | understandable ;-) | 12:40 |
| ruphy | just in case, can i build them already locally or sth? | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | got a build.pub.meego.com account? | 12:41 |
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| ruphy | nope | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | get a meego.com account and ask lbt for one | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | for one = to enable it | 12:41 |
| ruphy | ok | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | then i can help guide you to get our packaging built | 12:42 |
| ruphy | oh, i had a meego.com account, awesome :) | 12:43 |
| ruphy | lbt: can you enable ruphy for the build service? | 12:43 |
| lbt | what is it? | 12:43 |
| lbt | :) | 12:43 |
| lbt | done | 12:43 |
| ruphy | thanks! :) | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | but first .ks | 12:43 |
| ruphy | ok | 12:44 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: seems like a good time to think about making a few images for next week. I'll can take ExoPC, Lenovo, spare N900, N950... just thoughts to show diversity with Mer base | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 12:46 |
| lbt | just have a think about it :) | 12:46 |
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| Stskeeps | ruphy: http://pastie.org/2959608 | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | and mic-image-creator -f raw --save-kernel --arch=i686 --record-pkgs=name --cache=~carsten/NOBACKUP/tablet-cache --outdir=~carsten/NOBACKUP/tablet-os --run-mode=1 --config=test-x86.ks | 13:03 |
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| Stskeeps | adjust --cache and --outdir= to your own needs | 13:04 |
| nwoki_ | Stskeeps: can we mod the .ks to our timezone etc? | 13:05 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki_: if you desire | 13:06 |
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| Stskeeps | just start out with a working image first | 13:06 |
| nwoki_ | yeah, true | 13:06 |
| ruphy | Stskeeps: how much free space do i need, approx? | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | ~10gb free at least | 13:07 |
| nwoki_ | O.o | 13:07 |
| ruphy | ok | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | this makes a 3gb image | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | you can make it a 1gb image probably, footprint is like 200mb, but always good to have free space on usb stick | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | ~10gb is just what i normally keep free for development as i often make multiple images | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | and caching of rpms, etc | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | and multiple architectures | 13:10 |
| ruphy | Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option. | 13:11 |
| ruphy | Stskeeps: also, should i do raw or should i do livecd as format? | 13:12 |
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| Stskeeps | ruphy: sec | 13:13 |
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| Stskeeps | sudo mic-create-bootstrap -n trunk -k /your/repo/cache/path -r http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/latest/repos/oss/ia32/packages/ -o /your/final/bootstrap | 13:13 |
| nwoki_ | Stskeeps: what's that for? | 13:14 |
| ruphy | Stskeeps: your/final/bootstrap == outdir? | 13:15 |
| Stskeeps | ruphy: and -B /your/final/bootstrap in mic-image-creator | 13:15 |
| Stskeeps | bootstrap is basically a small meego install in order to do things right | 13:15 |
| Stskeeps | and yes, -f livecd | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | my bad | 13:16 |
| nwoki_ | k | 13:16 |
| ruphy | okie | 13:16 |
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| nwoki_ | Stskeeps: is this ok? "with bootstrap arch 'None' and bootstrap target arch 'None'" | 13:21 |
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| Stskeeps | nwoki_: well, if it creates it i guess, i haven't made bootstraps in ages | 13:37 |
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| nwoki_ | wooo image created | 13:52 |
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| ruphy | ouch | 13:57 |
| ruphy | i hope i haven't harmed my system | 13:57 |
| ruphy | i interrupted the bootstrap creation and before starting it again i had to rm -rf bootstrap... where my local disk was mounted :( | 13:58 |
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| ruphy | looks like it's sane | 14:17 |
| ruphy | Stskeeps: http://paste.kde.org/154364/ bootstrap is okay, img creation fails :( | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | ruphy: what's on your loop0? | 14:18 |
| ruphy | no idea. i think bootstrap mounted sth... let me check | 14:19 |
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| Stskeeps | losetup -d /dev/loop0 | 14:19 |
| vakkov | can i have plasma ative and nemo on one sd card but on different partitions? i'm using n900... I just don't want to delete nemo | 14:19 |
| ruphy | ok | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | vakkov: you'd need to adjust uboot boot script | 14:20 |
| vakkov | thanks, i forgot about that | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki_: does it boot too? :) | 14:20 |
| nwoki_ | Stskeeps: installation went ok (i think) but it doesn't boot. well, i get a blank screen after system load | 14:21 |
| ruphy | Stskeeps: weirdly, i had tried to launch the img builder again and now it seems to be going more... o.o | 14:21 |
| ruphy | oh yeah, awesome :) Stskeeps: can i try it with e.g. qemu? | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | ruphy: right now no, but if anyone wants to take a crack at https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12 we can have mer in typical VM environments | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki_: hmm | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki_: generating own image | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki_: so it boots ok and gives you textmode installer? | 14:23 |
| nwoki_ | yup | 14:23 |
| nwoki_ | i installed | 14:23 |
| Venemo | has anyone made a Mer image yet with the KDE netbook shell? | 14:23 |
| nwoki_ | and now rebooted | 14:23 |
| Venemo | I'm desperately looking for something to replace MeeGo netbook UX with | 14:24 |
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| Stskeeps | ran out of disk space | 14:30 |
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| vakkov | I can't find out how to edit the .raw image - want to edit some files. Can you help, please | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | vakkov: .raw image is actually a byte-by-byte copy of a SD card | 14:36 |
| nwoki_ | Stskeeps: back in an hour | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | it has partition table, partitions, etc | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki_: OK | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | vakkov: so if you write it to a sd card you can access files on it naturally | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | vakkov: for others, i use a tool called 'kpartx' where you do 'kpartx -a raw-image' and partitions appear in /dev/mapper/loop0p0 p1 p2 etc | 14:37 |
| vakkov | thanks, i was looking for a tool :) | 14:38 |
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| vakkov | is there another way to turn off nemo on n900 except writing shutdown in terminal ? | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | hold down power button | 15:17 |
| vakkov | oly locks screen and keys | 15:17 |
| vakkov | only * | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | nah, hold it down for like 30 secs | 15:18 |
| vakkov | yeah, it worked... I just say a video in youtube where a guy runs n9 apps on nemo and says he just copied some of n9s' binaries to the n900. Do you know more about that? | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | vakkov: more of a #nemomobile question | 15:23 |
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| Xase | So I am confused as heck as how I would go about "building" Mer for other devices | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | Xase: right, so, let's start from the bottom: we are a binary package distribution, so we centrally build mer for various architectures and provide rpms for people | 15:45 |
| Stskeeps | architectures currently: i486, atom (SSSE3), armv6, armv7 softfp, hardfp | 15:45 |
| Xase | Well I was aiming for armv7 | 15:45 |
| Stskeeps | then we have those | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | so, what we typically do is that we have kickstart files, which describe how to put together a image and what packages should be installed | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | we give them to mic-image-creator which then makes various forms of images for us, for armv7, typically a SD card image | 15:48 |
| Xase | I have a quick question. Are these ArmV7 images generic? | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | yes, mer doesn't contain hardware adaptations or UIs, it's meant to be portable | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | armv7 is built for ARMv7-A, VFPv3-D16, so it'll work on all known armv7-a chipsets | 15:51 |
| Xase | So I'm reading the wiki at the moment, trying to gather more information, for not being fully complete like it says on a few pages, it is terrificly well written. | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. we've been very hard at work and if you want to help contribute to the wiki by what i'm telling you, you're welcome to do so | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | the homepage is a bit blank but we're getting closer to a 'proper' launch of the core project | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully we'll have a good guide to "how to start making mer images" etc | 15:57 |
| Xase | My objective question is... how would I handle device specific kernel modules... just rebuild the kernel? | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | sure, that part is entirely up to yourself | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | there's plenty of open source examples of kernel packaging | 15:58 |
| Xase | I was thinking of using Mer to make a nifty alternative for android on the Nook Color. | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | ah, you should team up with wmarone | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | i have a nook color too | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | we don't have "Mer" kernel, but 2.6.32 and up, with some specific kernel options our userland expects, for systemd | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | that's usually what we expect | 15:59 |
| Xase | I wish I was more handy, but I can always just do my best :D | 16:01 |
| Stskeeps | then team up with wmarone and the others, i'm sure they would be happy with extra hands | 16:01 |
| Xase | =) | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind something better on my nook color | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | the e-reader app is driving me crazy | 16:04 |
| Xase | I have Cyanogen Mod on mine currently. | 16:04 |
| Xase | Some fellows seem to have ported a decent port of ubuntu overlayed on angstrom... but no one has developed it any further since april... | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | nook color is hardware wise close to nokia n900, so it should be able to perform well | 16:06 |
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| Xase | I discovered mer actually poking around the Maemo pages :) | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | i'm forbidden to really hack on my nook color before i've created a kitchen UX for my wife, so erm, procrastinating a bit and doing a industry-strength mobile core first to base it on.. | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:12 |
| Xase | Heh | 16:14 |
| Xase | I think I'm going to try and build the nook kernel, because last time I tried, I got an error with the def config as provided by B&N | 16:15 |
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| vakkov | i think of porting to beagleboard ... the problem is i don't have beagleboard at the moment :D | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | someone actually did that already | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvbH5J296lg | 16:23 |
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| vakkov | are there any plans of compiling flash player for mer | 16:29 |
| andre__ | vakkov, not sure if there are Adobe people around here that could answer your question. | 16:29 |
| dm8tbr | flash is dead, adobe sent a memo | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | yes, flash's dead, worry more about HTML5 runtime | 16:30 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: did you find a WAC runtime for trying out? | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: no not yet | 16:31 |
| dm8tbr | k | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | well, qt web runtime exists but that work stopped totally | 16:34 |
| dm8tbr | I wonder what Tizen is going to use then | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | well, not qt | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | i suspect chromium based | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | mostly because i've seen people talk about that and wayland | 16:36 |
| dm8tbr | ah yes, can't be Qt, that's tainted by the meego fail | 16:36 |
| dm8tbr | WAC seems to be mainly industry pushed, I wonder if that will gain any traction. | 16:37 |
| Xase | Mn I really hate debian sometimes... | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: i'm a little unsure what iphone would use | 16:39 |
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| wmarone | hmm, someone else interested in the nook color? | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone: yes, Xase | 16:42 |
| Xase | wmarone I am :D | 16:43 |
| wmarone | cool | 16:43 |
| Xase | but having issues with Debian at the moment complaining about expirations all of a sudden. | 16:43 |
| Xase | so hold on :D | 16:43 |
| wmarone | ok | 16:43 |
| Xase | Alright I'm good... turns out I set the wrong year while issuing sudo date | 16:45 |
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| Xase | wmarone: I'd love to help in any way I can. | 16:46 |
| wmarone | hmm, any particular area of expertise? | 16:46 |
| Xase | Not particularly unless being somewhat clever at "just figuring things out" counts :p. I'm decent with graphics, and I'm novicely familiar with kernel building, and I'm a vague ruby amateur =( | 16:47 |
| wmarone | hmm | 16:48 |
| Xase | Though I'm trying to focus my learning around C++ | 16:48 |
| wmarone | so currently I've got a kernel booting on the nook color, and I'm trying to get a rudimentary filesystem up on it | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | any luck with my .ks? | 16:50 |
| wmarone | just getting started with that today | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:50 |
| wmarone | familiarizing myself with the kickstart syntax | 16:50 |
| Xase | Is there a link for that kickstart so that I can try to learn it a bit more too? | 16:51 |
| wmarone | one sec | 16:51 |
| wmarone | I'll post it up on the mer wiki | 16:51 |
| wmarone | or is there a better place to put things like that? | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | wiki's good for incubation, when becoming a true project of your own, move out of the basement :) | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | so go ahead | 16:52 |
| vakkov | btw the kickstart link for armv6 in the wiki is not working | 16:53 |
| wmarone | almost forgot this was here: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Nook_Color | 16:53 |
| wmarone | though who knows how long that wiki will be around | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | for a while yet but feel free to migrate to wiki.merproject.org | 16:54 |
| Xase | I'm actually synching some kernel sources that were listed there | 16:55 |
| wmarone | I'm actually working on the tarball from B&N's site at the moment | 16:56 |
| wmarone | I'm going to clean that page up here in a bit. | 16:56 |
| Xase | wmarone: what about dalingrin's nook sources... | 16:58 |
| Xase | They're probably a little more optimized =/? | 16:58 |
| Xase | He's the CyanogenMod developer for Nook. | 16:59 |
| wmarone | yeah | 16:59 |
| Xase | Nook Color* | 16:59 |
| wmarone | I do have his tree | 16:59 |
| wmarone | a lot of the stuff on that page centers around cleaning the android bits out of the drivers | 16:59 |
| wmarone | and pushing upstream | 16:59 |
| wmarone | but I'm going to sideline a lot of that for now | 17:00 |
| wmarone | actually | 17:00 |
| wmarone | I have some of the patches applied against 2.6.32 on dalingrin's tree | 17:00 |
| * wmarone forgot | 17:00 | |
| Xase | So what can I do to be the best help to you wmarone | 17:01 |
| wmarone | hmm | 17:01 |
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| wmarone | reproduce my boot sequence | 17:02 |
| wmarone | that's probably the most annoying bit of this right now | 17:02 |
| wmarone | one sec | 17:02 |
| Xase | Alright, I'll go grab my nook and sd card adapter | 17:03 |
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| wmarone | Xase: join #nook-boot | 17:03 |
| wmarone | don't wanna flood #mer too badly | 17:04 |
| Xase | will when ii get back inside. | 17:11 |
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| Stskeeps | nwoki: "boot to meego" works for me, ie, live image | 17:36 |
| nwoki | Stskeeps: mine got stuck | 17:36 |
| nwoki | now i'm trying something with plasma active | 17:36 |
| nwoki | image creation and bootstrap was all ok though | 17:37 |
| nwoki | don't know why i had this | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki: exopc? | 17:39 |
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| nwoki | Stskeeps: yup | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki: hmm | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki: any modifications in .ks? | 17:51 |
| nwoki | Stskeeps: nope, kept it as you gave it to me | 17:52 |
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| vakkov | so what is the platform sdk i nemo | 17:57 |
| vakkov | in* | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | vakkov: we use something called OBS at the moment, our sdk story isn't that strong yet | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki: hmm | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki: -f livecd ? | 17:58 |
| nwoki | yup | 17:58 |
| vakkov | i know about the obs, thought there's an sdk .. | 17:58 |
| nwoki | Stskeeps: i'm about to go out now. I'll retry tomorrow afternoon if you're around i'll let you know | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | nwoki: OK with me | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 17:59 |
| nwoki | thanks for the great help btw | 17:59 |
| nwoki | :) | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | np, please help document it on wiki | 17:59 |
| nwoki | will do | 17:59 |
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| vakkov | 1 question about the OBS core - do only developers have access to it ? | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | vakkov: we have a community obs kind of thing that can build against mer | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | we have a OBS that's (currently) on an internal network that does all the integration/release work, ie, just a build farm, you don't technically need access to it as you submit through http://review.merproject.org and git | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | +and we have, i mean | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | we're hoping to be able to eventually hack without an obs available | 18:05 |
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| Stskeeps | evening rlinfati | 19:39 |
| rlinfati | hi Stskeeps | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | so what brings you here? :) | 19:39 |
| rlinfati | nothing :), the other day i see in the irc channel log that say the n9 not has moslo partition | 19:42 |
| rlinfati | and is not true | 19:42 |
| rlinfati | my n9 has a moslo partition | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | retail? | 19:42 |
| rlinfati | yep | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | that's cool | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | good to know :) | 19:43 |
| rlinfati | http://pastebin.com/EwUMmqbw | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | so you were able to boot secure harmattan that way? | 19:46 |
| rlinfati | ¿? | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | well, as in, MOSLO dual booted without causing harmattan to be broken? | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | just curious | 19:47 |
| rlinfati | yep, it boot (kexec) the pr1.1 in open mode | 19:49 |
| rlinfati | but the nokia/ovi do not work (ovi store) | 19:50 |
| rlinfati | ovi map and gps work | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | i was more wondering about something marquiz did later this week, where we actually reboot | 19:53 |
| rlinfati | the aegis storage is broken... http://pastebin.com/KpGf2rkq | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:56 |
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| vgrade | Sage, dm8tbr, found this while working on another mali platform | 19:58 |
| vgrade | Sage, dm8tbr, http://openlinux.amlogic.com/wiki/index.php/Arm/OpenGL | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | intersting | 20:00 |
| wmarone | vgrade: what kernel version are you working on? | 20:00 |
| vgrade | wmarone, 2.6.34 | 20:01 |
| rlinfati | delete nokia account, create nokia account and ovi store work in open mode :) | 20:01 |
| wmarone | hmm, so not too far off | 20:02 |
| vgrade | wmarone, far off what? | 20:14 |
| wmarone | 2.6.32 | 20:14 |
| wmarone | I'm trying to figure out what's killing udev | 20:14 |
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| rlinfati | grrr, dualbooter, open mode, reboot to normal mode -> all work | 20:28 |
| rlinfati | dualbooter, open mode, edit nokia/ovi account, use gps, reboot no notmal mode -> "il dispositivi non funziona correctammente" ( the device is not working correctly, sent to nokia care ) | 20:29 |
| rlinfati | maybe was because i install a apps from ovi store :/ | 20:34 |
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| dm8tbr | rlinfati: I guess for harmattan it's either or, running it in both secure an open mode will mess things up bad | 21:09 |
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| ShadowJK | autobricking :) | 21:17 |
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| rlinfati | grrrrr use of gps in open mode -> reboot to normal mode -> work | 21:19 |
| rlinfati | install/uninstall deb in open mode -> reboot to normal mode -> work :( | 21:20 |
| rlinfati | a randdom brick | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | messing with any paegified file will make secure mode MALF, no matter if the messing is done in secure or open mode | 21:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | *if* we had a proper list of paegified files, we could keep backups and instead of MALF could restore the original file when aegis throws EMALF. (actually I think there *is* such list: /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist) - alas it's not exactly trivial to hack the MALF checker so it would do that restoring instead of MALF as it's also a paegified initscript resp binary | 21:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | the funny bit is it seems possible to sign files in open mode | 21:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | with a few tricks | 21:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | and since we can do this, we can sign any file we patched to neuter any patch Nokia platsec would deploy to fix this | 21:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | obviously we need an unpatched system to sign the file, so mustn't update to a newer OS version prior to patching the update process so it can't kick out our signature | 22:01 |
| sethstorm | cxl000: the best I can do is get a photo of the remaining lines since I do not have a jig for the port | 22:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | but basically nobody is interested in secure mode as long as proper open mode works in all aspects | 22:03 |
| Sage | vgrade: interesting, I'm using 3.x kernels atm. with snowball | 22:12 |
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| vgrade | Sage, I thought you looking at mali | 22:37 |
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| vgrade | nice one matrixx, Mer project first on the list, http://wiki.qt-project.org/QtonPi/Device_program#Mentors | 23:27 |
| Sage | vgrade: snowball is ste u8500 with the mali gpu | 23:38 |
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