| DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: you happen to know anything about possible silicon errata (bugs in CPU) related to N900 OMAP3430 thumb ? | 00:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: or maybe you know how to contact konttori? | 00:02 |
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| araujo | damnshock, well, you could try latest Nemo release, it is using that image afaik | 01:30 |
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| cxl000 | rdesfo If you can boot your own kernel on the device and have graphics/device drivers/firmware for it then you can probably develop an adaptation that will allow running mer | 01:41 |
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| dm8tbr | DocScrutinizer: thumbs are broken, pun intended | 05:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dm8tbr: yes, that | 05:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | 's what I recall as well, but what *exactly* is broken | 05:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | as freemangordon now starts to compile Qt in thumb, claiming all the problems were mere compiler bugs | 05:24 |
| dm8tbr | I suppose if I spend half an hour digging through IRC logs I'd find it, but basically there are two errata that are of such nature that they can't both be fixed at the same time | 05:24 |
| dm8tbr | nope | 05:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | thanks a lot | 05:24 |
| dm8tbr | and mind you there are two kernel fixes that can be activated, but they are mutually exclusive | 05:25 |
| dm8tbr | DocScrutinizer: I think that was the discussion, back then™ | 05:27 |
| dm8tbr | http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2011-01-29#T20:10:41 | 05:27 |
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| dm8tbr | DocScrutinizer: http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2011-01-29#T20:39:46 - specifically | 05:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dm8tbr: great, thanks | 05:30 |
| iekku | morning | 05:31 |
| dm8tbr | moaning | 05:31 |
| dm8tbr | DocScrutinizer: btw - it's entirely possible that his code will run for hours without problems and then spontaneously combust into a giant fireball. at least that's what carsten and me saw. | 05:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's what silicon bugs are like, yes :-) thanks anyway for confirming it, as freemangordon wasn't inclined to trust in my words | 05:35 |
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| dm8tbr | the other part of that conversation probably happened on #meego-arm | 05:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | #meego-arm seems dead, even the chanlog link | 05:46 |
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| Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer: thumb2 is immensel broken on n900 | 05:51 |
| dm8tbr | DocScrutinizer: here's my log of that http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1390357 | 05:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | you happen to know which "objdump $FILE|grep foo" or whatever incantation tells me for sure if a binary is thumb or not? | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer: disassembly, i guess, you might be able to see thumb instructions | 05:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | :nod: if only I'd know them even when I see | 05:55 |
| Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer: it's so broken that bash in thumb can work ok one moment and constantly segfault after | 05:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | I boticed some files, esp the erratically thumbified modest, had 16bit opcodes and lots of "invalid" instructions | 05:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | which vanished after compiling modest correctly | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | still I need a way to scann whole /usr/bin/* reliably for thumb | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | well, thumb is 16 bit opcodes | 05:59 |
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| Stskeeps | morn phaeron | 06:18 |
| phaeron | good morning | 06:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: yup, gathered as much, and objdump -d seems to even display accordingly, but tbh it puzzles the sh*t outa me, as I see single 16bit instructions mixed with 32bit, and AIUI you ned a particular instruction (BX?) to switch to thumb mode and I can'T find anything like that either | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer: yeah, i guess thumb interworking | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | looking after that should make you able to see it | 06:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry? | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | basically the thing about switching modes | 06:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | means linking ARM and thumb code together | 06:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | would you know what the opcode (mnemonic or hex) looks like? | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0203j/BCGDIHEC.html | 06:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | duh, THAT's a cpu-hogging link, my brwoser seems like never finishing rendering | 06:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | OOOH it does | 06:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | BX, BL, nice :-S | 06:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: many thanks | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | np | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | we'd be on thumb in mer/meego if it wasn't for n900 and other buggy sillicons | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | the qt issue is fixed in later qt versions | 06:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | thought as much, but why isn't HARM on thumb, at least partially (for the non-time-critical parts)? | 06:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I have to say I nly heard it's not (freemangordon) | 06:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe I'm asking the wrong person in wrong channel :-D | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | harm not on thumb.. now that's more interesting | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | i think they had too old toolchain | 06:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, compiler had bugs too, that'S where freemangordon started to say "now I got a gcc that's supposed to work for thumb. I don't buy we got silicon errata as well" and announced he'll build Qt on thumb for CSSU now | 06:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i would advise against it | 06:40 |
| * DocScrutinizer did same | 06:40 | |
| Stskeeps | it looks fine at first but when in actual deployment and most importantly idle states, as it will crash left and right | 06:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | the random nature of modest crashes should have told enough | 06:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | typical for silicon errata, not exactly so for compiler bugs | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | if you notice in changelogs of fremantle software, they actively spent time removing -mthumb that was in old n810 sw | 06:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 06:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | isn't it funny there's no big fat bold warning "DONT USE THUMB, CPU IS BORKED!" in a prominent location of fremantle SDK? | 06:45 |
| Stskeeps | i thought there was actually | 06:45 |
| Stskeeps | but can't find it | 06:46 |
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| Sage | yey, all glib2 problem package fixes are in :) | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. switching CI tests to go on master instead | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | so we can evaluate them better | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | i really have to improve fakeobs performance, it takes ~0.5 sec per request | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | on the intensive-git ones | 07:48 |
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| Stskeeps | turns out when you requested an old version of a package, it broke | 09:47 |
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| jbos | sage pong | 10:15 |
| jbos | you pinged me yesterday, I'm just back from some nice vacation :) how can I help? | 10:16 |
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| Sage | jbos: I was pondering about peregrine. You one of the devs, right? | 10:22 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: any ideas about the maliit build failure with armv6l | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | show me? | 10:31 |
| Sage | actually phonon breaks to that too | 10:32 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=maliit-framework&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared&repository=Mer_Core_armv6l | 10:32 |
| Sage | /usr/bin/ld: maliit-server: hidden symbol `__sync_synchronize' in /usr/lib/gcc/armv6l-meego-linux-gnueabi/4.6.1/libgcc.a(linux-atomic.o) is referenced by DSO | 10:32 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | i think we have a bug on that | 10:33 |
| Sage | yes | 10:33 |
| Sage | but any ideas about it? :) | 10:34 |
| cajl | hi | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | very loosely | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | lo cajl | 10:34 |
| cajl | i search this person : http://dot.kde.org/2011/11/30/plasma-active-archos-g9-tablet | 10:34 |
| Sage | "I think you can fix this by linking shared libraries with -Wl,-lgcc." | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: which is a bit scar | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | y | 10:35 |
| Sage | http://icedtea.classpath.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=412 <- quite old (2009) | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | well, test if it works with -Wl,-lgcc i guess in LDFLAGS | 10:36 |
| cajl | i would like to install mer and plasma active on the Archos Gen 9 | 10:36 |
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| * Stskeeps headdesks | 10:47 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: tiny error in our instructions | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | guess what linkpac -c does | 10:48 |
| Sage | g++ -Wl,-O1 -Wl,-lgcc,--as-needed -o maliit-server .obj/main.o .obj/mimdummyinputcontext.o .obj/mpassthruwindow.o .obj/moc_mimdummyinputcontext.o .obj/moc_mpassthruwindow.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib ../src/libmaliit-plugins-0.80.so -lXfixes -lQtGui -lQtCore -lpthread -lXext -lX11 -lm | 10:48 |
| Sage | /usr/bin/ld: maliit-server: hidden symbol `__sync_synchronize' in /usr/lib/gcc/armv6l-meego-linux-gnueabi/4.6.1/libgcc.a(linux-atomic.o) is referenced by DSO | 10:48 |
| lbt | copypac? | 10:48 |
| Sage | where does that first -Wl come? :) | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: makes the link stuck at this particular version | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | it's meant to be -C copy | 10:49 |
| * Stskeeps curses | 10:49 | |
| lbt | ah yes | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | i486,i586 is fine, no need to re-bootstrap | 10:50 |
| * Stskeeps ponders how to recitify situation without having to re-bootstrap | 10:50 | |
| jonnor_work | Problems with maliit? (just joined in the middle of the conversation) | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | jonnor_work: just awkward problems on armv6 builds | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | see above | 10:51 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: where does that -Wl option come by default? | 10:53 |
| Sage | -Wl,-O1 | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | unsure | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | it looks bad | 10:54 |
| Sage | that another -Wl is from maliit and I can change that and added that -lgcc | 10:54 |
| Sage | but I can't find the first one | 10:54 |
| Sage | not in meego-rpm-configs or in maliit package | 10:55 |
| Sage | same option is on others so at least not armv6l only | 11:00 |
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| jbos | Sage, I'm the project responsible for peregrine @ basyskom. Right now we are in the middle of many other projects, which means the time for peregrine is really really short. | 12:08 |
| jbos | so there might come updates and changes, but mostlike not with the speed it had before, however at least for december, who knows what will be in future ;) | 12:11 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo felipec, got my mail with our n900 kernel config? | 12:15 |
| felipec | Stskeeps: oh, yes... I already had an old meego config, but still somehow wasn't working | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 12:16 |
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| felipec | Stskeeps: I somehow got it working, but only on 3.2-rc3, I'm not sure if that newer config would improve things | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | mm, well, i guess config matches well with our .37 one and the power management patches etc | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | our team is significantly smaller these day so there's practically no kernel work ongoing for n900, but a quite stable .37 kernel | 12:19 |
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| felipec | Stskeeps: the config you shared is for .38, no? | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | .37 i think | 12:20 |
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| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=kernel-adaptation-n900&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN900 <- for this kernel + patches | 12:21 |
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| lodywork | hi all | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | lo lodywork | 12:23 |
| lodywork | is the admin of mer here? | 12:23 |
| felipec | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=kernel-adaptation-n900.config&package=kernel-adaptation-n900&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN900&srcmd5=8f069ea49c728049a4aaf09065de15a9 <- Linux kernel version: 2.6.28.rc7-4.netbook | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | felipec: yeah, ignore that part :P | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | it's just a stupid effect of the insane kernel packaging we had in meego, we use that on our .37 kernel | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | lodywork: well, i think everyone involved with infrastructure etc is and contributors, yes | 12:24 |
| xruxa | hmmm, is the raspberry pi board strong enough (GLES-wise) to run Nemo? | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: it doesn't have multiprocess gles | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | which makes some things suck | 12:24 |
| felipec | Stskeeps: you should probably use the result of 'savedefconfig', it's much simpler and easier to maintain | 12:25 |
| xruxa | Stskeeps: meaning single rendering context? | 12:25 |
| lodywork | ok @stskeeps | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | felipec: agreed | 12:25 |
| felipec | make savedefconfig | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | felipec: on other devices we've switched to a lot less complicated kernel packaging | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | lodywork: so i'm one, and what's up? | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: as in, you talk to gles on the framebuffer practically | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | no x11 egl | 12:26 |
| lodywork | i was wondering about system requirments of Mer | 12:26 |
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| Stskeeps | lodywork: Mer has ports for Atom (SSSE3), non-Atom x86, ARMv6, ARMv7 softfp and hardfp | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | lodywork: we've had Mer with xorg+connman+ofono+bluez+3D support+QML viewer (qt) up in 37mb ram | 12:27 |
| lodywork | stskeeps: i mean how much memory will you expect it will use | 12:27 |
| lodywork | op | 12:28 |
| lodywork | fine' | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | Mer's just a core, so it really depends on what you throw on top of it | 12:28 |
| felipec | Stskeeps: there's no UI? | 12:28 |
| lodywork | you can port icewm | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | felipec: we define Mer as being the core, minus hardware adaptation and minus UI -- those are projects outside, that way we can focus on the core work without politics on which side Cancel is in, in a dialog box | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | felipec: so we're just a lean and mean Linux/Qt+HTML5+JS core | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | felipec: Nemo (the former community edition) is a seperate project, that bases upon Mer, as an example, and delivers hardware adaptations for various devices | 12:30 |
| lodywork | i found these around http://xceleo.com/mer-ui-mockup.png | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | lodywork: yeah, those are old | 12:30 |
| lodywork | but i loved it | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | lodywork: should be easy to create in QML if you want to :) | 12:31 |
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| lodywork | thats right | 12:31 |
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| felipec | Stskeeps: makes sense, the core is really important. But I feel without a nice UI people won't chime in | 12:32 |
| lodywork | so is there any image to dload right now | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | felipec: so far we have Plasma Active and Nemo basing upon it, even Cordia (hildon desktop based) and other people doing work, contributing in the areas of the core they can | 12:32 |
| lodywork | thats even nicer | 12:33 |
| lodywork | http://lucasr.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/notification.jpg | 12:33 |
| felipec | cool | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | felipec: happen to have seen Nemo on top of Mer video? | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQLIjcYAMU | 12:34 |
| lodywork | so.. how can i but this on my android mobile?? | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | lodywork: if you want to put it on a device, you need a hardware adaptation that provides GLESv2/EGL typically -- and most android mobiles doesn't come with traditional gnu/linux hardware adaptations | 12:36 |
| felipec | Stskeeps: nope... Nice! | 12:36 |
| lodywork | its 528MHz ARMv6 256MB RAM . | 12:38 |
| lodywork | andoid is flashed on it | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | lodywork: if you can boot a 2.6.32 kernel or later on it and your own file system you can possibly run something on it, but it won't be as pretty as the video above | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | and require a lot of hacking | 12:39 |
| lodywork | i will study this harded | 12:39 |
| lodywork | harder* | 12:40 |
| lodywork | what is n9 specs???? | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | lodywork: 1gig ram, 1ghz, single core omap36xx or something, i think | 12:42 |
| lodywork | ok | 12:42 |
| lodywork | i'll lean back now | 12:42 |
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| Stskeeps | feel free to stay around and learn :) | 12:42 |
| lodywork | ok | 12:43 |
| lodywork | thx | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | wiki.merproject.org is a good place to look around at | 12:43 |
| lodywork | thats nic | 12:44 |
| lodywork | i will try to port slitaz on ARM | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | probably just easier to build on mer and some lightweight environment | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | we have qtdesktop | 12:46 |
| lodywork | then i will make it work as a guest OS | 12:46 |
| lodywork | http://code.google.com/p/qtdesktop/downloads/list is for windows | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbE4Ply5Cbs | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | on a n810 | 12:48 |
| lodywork | this stil high end hw | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | not really | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | armv6, 400mhz, 128mb ram | 12:49 |
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| Sage | jbos: ok, Well I was mainly interested if someone could test the home:sage:telepathy that it works as it should and that we could move peregrine to the Nemo images | 12:52 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: do we have ready made obs image available that user could just boot on VM and start using? | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron has one, but frankly, you will want to follow lbt's guide instead | 13:26 |
| Sage | url? | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_Setup | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | install opensuse 11.4 minimal and go through that | 13:26 |
| Sage | yeah, well I was hoping download and use :D | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | it often brings along worse problems | 13:26 |
| Sage | true | 13:27 |
| * Sage ponders what vm software to use on his laptop for that | 13:27 | |
| lbt | kvm | 13:27 |
| Sage | do we have guide how to setup it properly? | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | define properly | 13:28 |
| lbt | set what up properly? | 13:28 |
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| Sage | well, setup by step with opensuse 11.4 image from 0 to running system. Is there some easy to use gui for kvm usage? | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | i have virt-manager on my setup at least, it's pretty good | 13:29 |
| Sage | also if I need to compile just lets say 10 small packages how much diskspace I need for the whole thing 10G enough? 160G HDD | 13:30 |
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| Stskeeps | you'll need fakeobs so 1.3gb for sources, ~500 mb for each architecture | 13:32 |
| Sage | I was planing to hook up to cobs | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | wasn't sure if you wanted total offline operation :) | 13:33 |
| Sage | I really don't have enough space to fakeobs on my laptop :) | 13:33 |
| Sage | SSD drives aren't so big :/ | 13:33 |
| rdesfo | is it possible to get mer on an lg optimus v? | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | rdesfo: it's a tegra2? | 13:33 |
| rdesfo | not sure.... how do I check? | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | rdesfo: generally: if you assume you'll be able to make phonecalls with mer on a android device, you're usually wrong. if you're OK with that, if you can boot your own linux kernel (larger than 2.6.32) and root file system, you can probably run mer | 13:35 |
| Sage | lbt: btw, your guide doesn't say if it is recommended or even mandatory to use 64-bit system | 13:35 |
| lbt | Sage: it's not mandatory but probably recommended | 13:36 |
| rdesfo | Stskeeps, thanks | 13:37 |
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| Sage | what I need to do to get access to my KVM VM that is behind the NAT interface? There is default firewall in opensuse or do I need to change the interface out from NAT? I can ping it but nothing else. | 14:13 |
| Stskeeps | you can make a virtual network i think | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | at least it showed up on my ifconfig | 14:14 |
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| Sage | yes, there if virbr0 and my host has .1 ip and the VM .45 | 14:15 |
| swerden | stskeeps: can you send me you skype name? | 14:15 |
| swerden | lbt: Can you please send me your skype name? | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | swerden: carsten.v.munk | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | it's in the email :) | 14:16 |
| Sage | ah, firewall needs configs. | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: just disable the firewall, it's only a bother | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | swerden: and lbt_on_skype | 14:17 |
| * Sage searches how | 14:17 | |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yast | 14:17 |
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| Sage | \o/ | 14:19 |
| lbt | swerden: hey .... I'm afraid I have to go out | 14:19 |
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| swerden | lbt: ok, so it was may fault. When do you like have this call. Later? 18:00? | 14:20 |
| lbt | swerden: sure I'll be back in about 1.5 - 2hrs | 14:21 |
| lbt | Have to take my wife to physio :) | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | let's say 18 MET then? | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | (15:21 MET atm) | 14:22 |
| lbt | that works for me | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | swerden: that OK with you too? | 14:22 |
| swerden | 18:00 is perfect | 14:22 |
| lbt | thanks... bbiab | 14:22 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps, lbt: normal http://pastie.org/2955067 ? | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes, edit /etc/init.d/mysql and make it say 3-5, not 2-5 | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | think it's a bug in their mysql package | 14:26 |
| Sage | ok | 14:26 |
| * Sage adds not to wiki page | 14:27 | |
| Sage | *note | 14:27 |
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| Sage | hmmp | 14:32 |
| Sage | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | mysql -u root ? | 14:32 |
| Sage | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 14:33 |
| Sage | ah | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | ran /usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation first ? | 14:33 |
| * Sage removes capslock from his keyboard | 14:33 | |
| Stskeeps | ah\ | 14:33 |
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| Sage | ok, something isn't right. | 14:39 |
| Sage | after the guide getting Access forbidden! from :82 | 14:39 |
| Sage | api responds | 14:40 |
| Sage | and webui gives: Application error - Change this error message for exceptions thrown outside of an action (like in Dispatcher setups or broken Ruby code) in public/500.html | 14:41 |
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| Stskeeps | how about https://localhost:444 ? | 14:45 |
| Sage | that is the api that works | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | ok, verify that webui points at the right api then | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | in settings | 14:54 |
| Sage | but with links on localhost I get same problems | 14:54 |
| Sage | yes, it is set to point https://localhost:444/ in /srv/www/obs/webui/config/environments/production.rb | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | check the web logs, may be a clue there | 14:56 |
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| Sage | [02/Dec/2011:16:57:02 +0200] 192.168.122.1 TLSv1 DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA "GET / HTTP/1.1" 310 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/8.0" | 14:57 |
| Sage | only line that comes to /var/log/apache2/* | 14:57 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 14:57 |
| Sage | when trying to access that if that was what you meant | 14:57 |
| Stskeeps | i'd assume it'd put the application error somewhere | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | uhh | 14:59 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: http://review.merproject.org/#patch,sidebyside,153,2,gnutls-2.12.9-compile-fix.patch | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | where did you get that patch from? :P | 15:00 |
| Sage | hah, you noticed :D | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | i -do- review things | 15:00 |
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| Sage | :) | 15:01 |
| Sage | a bit of google helped with that | 15:01 |
| Sage | made it by myself in the end though | 15:02 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: parts of this http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnutls-commit/2011-02/msg00016.html | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | what kind of compile error did that cause? | 15:06 |
| Sage | well, we don't compile anything outside that dir so linkin didn't go well | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 15:08 |
| Sage | see %build from .spec | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | yeah okay, makes sense | 15:09 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: also see the comments above License in .spec | 15:09 |
| Sage | rest of that is GPLv3+ | 15:09 |
| Sage | IIRC | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:10 |
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| Sage | ok, time to continue next week. | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | have a good weekend | 15:20 |
| Sage | you too. cya | 15:20 |
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| swerden | Stskeeps: skype? | 17:05 |
| swerden | lbt: skype | 17:05 |
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| lbt | swerden: yes - Stskeeps can't make it right now | 17:05 |
| lbt | we can carry on though | 17:06 |
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| foobar1 | Stskeeps: | 17:15 |
| foobar1 | hi divid ... | 17:15 |
| foobar1 | rayman is her | 17:15 |
| foobar1 | ;) | 17:15 |
| lbt | hey | 17:15 |
| lbt | sorry - I hate skype | 17:15 |
| foobar1 | no problem ;) | 17:15 |
| foobar1 | i send the net overview via mail ... ok | 17:16 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Requirements | 17:16 |
| foobar1 | i have read this yesterday | 17:20 |
| lbt | https://bugs.merproject.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Mer%20Infra | 17:20 |
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| lbt | skype sucks | 17:30 |
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| swerden | lbt: we are done. So have a nice weekend | 17:33 |
| lbt | :) .... will do | 17:33 |
| foobar1 | lbt: ok, have a nice weekend ... | 17:33 |
| foobar1 | lbt: you have mail ;) | 17:33 |
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| foobar1 | lbt: google talk works better as skype ;) | 17:45 |
| lbt | it can't be any worse than that call ! | 17:46 |
| lbt | I think it may have been because it was a conf-call | 17:46 |
| lbt | it's usually OK-ish when it is 1-to-1 | 17:46 |
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| lbt | it's a shame - I was hoping to talk to you both in a bit more detail | 17:47 |
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| foobar1 | lbt: we are creating that surely | 17:57 |
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| lbt | good point ... can't we use SIP ? | 17:58 |
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| foobar1 | lbt: we need to see what has stefan ;) | 17:59 |
| lbt | true | 17:59 |
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| foobar1 | lbt: ok ... i need your ssh-pub-key ... you have post, with my gpg-key ;D | 18:01 |
| lbt | I sent it already | 18:01 |
| lbt | and I have your gpg too | 18:01 |
| lbt | foobar1: nb ... this is the policy I put together for meego : http://wiki.meego.com/Web_infrastructure/Policy#SSH_Keys | 18:02 |
| lbt | comments welcome - I plan on using that for mer too | 18:03 |
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| wmarone | Stskeeps: is there a bare-minimum .ks file that will build an armv7 (softfp or hardfp) image available? I tried using the N950 rootfs but it dies miserably, and I can't get vgrade's .ks to work. | 18:11 |
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| matrixx | good evening | 18:18 |
| matrixx | I think many of us have applied for the raspberry pi | 18:19 |
| matrixx | have you read this yet? http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/12/02/call-for-qt-on-raspberry-pi-mentors/ | 18:19 |
| matrixx | could we have a Mer related effort group and one of us as a mentor? | 18:19 |
| matrixx | I would be delighted to try qtquick2 and opengles2 effort on top of Mer on RasPi | 18:20 |
| matrixx | but not sure if I have time for this mentoring :/ | 18:20 |
| lbt | I think that makes sense | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone: let me just cook you one up | 18:24 |
| matrixx | there's at least 7 applicants who I either know to work on or have mentioned Mer in the project description | 18:25 |
| matrixx | that was only with a quick glance, might be much more | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | if you think it makes sense, then apply and set it up :) | 18:26 |
| matrixx | ok, maybe I can have time for that effort, though the people I'm going to pick up there are much more experienced with Mer than me ;) | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | i have a pi now so i'll push with some stuff at least | 18:28 |
| matrixx | nice :) | 18:28 |
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| Stskeeps | i've been meaning to start some work on making a oss wrapper so people can build in OBS against some of the broadcom libs without having them | 18:30 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm, i wonder if /opt/vc will be the canonical path for the pi's gles | 18:44 |
| matrixx | oh right, we have a tutor application in now | 18:46 |
| matrixx | https://wiki.qt-project.org/QtonPi/Device_program | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | can write two of us already has pi's at least | 18:47 |
| matrixx | will that make it more difficult to get those for rest of us ;) | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | no idea, will show we're serious, too :P | 18:48 |
| matrixx | ok, I'll add that :P | 18:48 |
| lbt | matrixx: looks good | 18:48 |
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| matrixx | done :) | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | matrixx: did you put your mer thingie anywhere btw? | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | the qml one | 18:50 |
| matrixx | Stskeeps: it's in github | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | url? | 18:51 |
| matrixx | https://github.com/matrixx/Merux | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 18:51 |
| matrixx | I have to warn you that at the moment it shuts down only from command line | 18:51 |
| matrixx | no quit button or anything :D | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | that's okay | 18:51 |
| matrixx | I haven't had time to work on it in a while, my house building project just started | 18:51 |
| matrixx | that means that there's no more than in the video I showed some time ago | 18:52 |
| matrixx | I have packages in OBS | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine, any contribution is welcome :) | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone: ..haven't forgotten you, just got sidetracked, moment | 18:53 |
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| matrixx | a sec and I'll give you a link to the mer packages | 18:53 |
| matrixx | Stskeeps: pick here: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/repositories?project=home%3Amatrixx%3Amerux | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone: you just need a traditional SD card layout, FAT first, then ext3 (or 4?) and swap? | 18:54 |
| matrixx | now, tell me which is your application number in the Pi device program page and I'll add it to the list | 18:57 |
| matrixx | if there's someone who hasn't mention Mer in his projects ;) | 18:57 |
| matrixx | *mentioned | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone: http://pastie.org/2956301 | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone: i have a nook color too so if you want me to test anything i can do that | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | i mostly use it for reading anyway and i'm a little pissed at the reader app | 18:59 |
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| Stskeeps | wmarone: mic-image-creator -f raw --save-kernel --arch=armv7l --record-pkgs=name --cache=~carsten/NOBACKUP/tablet-cache --outdir=~carsten/NOBACKUP/tablet-os --run-mode=1 --config=test.ks | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone: change --cache and --outdir to your own likings | 19:12 |
| wmarone | ok | 19:14 |
| wmarone | I'll have to play with the image format | 19:14 |
| * wmarone wishes the boot process wasn't such voodoo | 19:15 | |
| Stskeeps | voodoo on the nook color or in mer? | 19:16 |
| wmarone | nook color | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | isn't it a standard omap format? | 19:17 |
| wmarone | the x-loader/u-boot/kernel situation is flaky with newer versions of u-boot | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 19:17 |
| wmarone | i.e. I can't build the x-loader, u-boot, and kernel that come from the B&N sources and get a boot | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | and i assume you're aware of the crazy alignment stuff | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | ie, partition alignments | 19:17 |
| wmarone | so I'm using an older u-boot and x-loader with the 2.6.32 kernel | 19:17 |
| wmarone | yeah, I am using a shell script that generates a two-partition setup on my SD card | 19:18 |
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| Stskeeps | ah, the normal omap script then :P | 19:24 |
| wmarone | yup | 19:25 |
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