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Stskeepshttp://dot.kde.org/2011/11/30/plasma-active-archos-g9-tablet <- nice coverage07:06
Stskeepsarc_mat|tp: this is with GLES?07:06
vgrademorning07:10
Stskeepsmorn vgrade07:11
vgradeone for the news page07:11
Stskeeps:nod:07:12
dm8tbrso is the SDE for gen9 done? :)07:15
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Termanamorning07:34
SageStskeeps: those failed messages in gerrit seem to be mainly errors in boss07:38
Stskeepsyes07:39
Stskeepsi agree07:39
SageI think that what we see there is the similar problem that I see at the CE:* projects07:39
Stskeepshmm?07:39
Sagethere is somekind of timing issue. In CE:* project trial builds the BOSS sends failed message much earlier than the build even finishes.07:39
Stskeepsnah, this one is actually from OBS, i think, if you look at the build log, there's an actual 'failed'07:40
Sagephaeron: ^ http://review.merproject.org/#change,18107:40
Stskeepskeep in mind this is actually my custom BOSS setup07:40
Sagehmmp07:40
Sageok. phaeron nm ;)07:40
Stskeepsi think it's just a obs bug, restarted the entire thing07:41
Stskeeps(and sorry for using your change as guinea pig..)07:41
Stskeeps:P07:41
Sage:P07:42
* Sage still waits for that glib2 ;)07:42
Stskeepsyeah, i know07:42
Stskeepsnot terribly happy that i'm behind in checking things07:42
* Sage checks the qt-mobility07:43
Sagehttps://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Amkcal <- strange. armv7l and armv7hl failed rest succeeded07:43
Stskeepsprobably some stupid if __ARM__ ..07:44
w00tdon't think so07:45
SageI don't think so07:45
Sagethere is only one if %{arm} in spec file that defines camera patch. And those fail on the very end when packaging and file is missing (different file for both)07:46
w00tit looks like make install didn't install "QContactLocalIdFetchRequest" header07:48
w00t(but did install qcontactlocalidfetchrequest.h)07:48
w00tweird07:48
Sageon armv7l the problem is:     File not found: /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/qt-mobility-1.2.0-5.1.Mer.arm/usr/include/QtOrganizer/QOrganizerJournalTime07:49
w00tlovely, so the problem is a random header?07:49
w00t(I'm looking at armv8el)07:49
Sageseems so07:49
SageI'll click rebuild on those and lets see if the problem stays07:50
w00ttrigger rebuild, pray it works07:50
w00t^507:50
Sageah, telepathy is another thing that I was suppose to look at07:51
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phaeronStskeeps: morning07:56
Stskeepsmorn phaeron o/07:56
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phaeronI still don't get any of the gerrit pages :D07:56
Stskeepsit happened even without your patch, so now i rebooted07:57
Stskeepsso maybe it's a obs 2.3 issue07:57
phaeronah ok I found the link to "DBC" dependency build check or something ?07:58
phaeronsensorfw passed07:59
Stskeepsyeah, it doesn't always appear07:59
phaeroninteresting07:59
phaeronthere are timeout settings in the RPC calls from worker to repserver , could be a timeout07:59
Stskeepsmight be07:59
Stskeepsbut i would have expected rpc timeout instead08:00
phaeronyeah true.08:00
phaeronthe patch is quite minimal in the path it touches. however if you identify places where links should be followed I can try to implement that. I still haven't tried to make it work over remoteurl, but I promise to do so :)08:02
Stskeeps:nod: my current idea of this bug is actually not your patch's fault08:02
Stskeepsbut i'll see when this round comes back08:02
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ScriptRipperping lbt09:28
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lbtgood morning (ish)10:51
StskeepsSage: does mic2 make device nodes?10:51
Stskeepsmorn lbt10:51
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SageStskeeps: hmm10:51
Sageit does some yes.10:52
Stskeepsok10:52
Stskeepsbecause i might have to pull /dev/* contents from 'filesystem'10:52
* lbt wonders what's in 'filesystem'10:53
Stskeeps /dev , /home , /tmp those kind of dirs10:53
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Stskeepssince we have systemd we don't really need those anyway, i guess10:55
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lbtI was asking myself how deeply we buy into the systemd ethos10:56
Stskeepsit's that or a initrd setting it up10:56
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lbtfilesystem seems like a sane package10:56
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StskeepsSage: re-verifying gamin11:46
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Sageheh, it seems that I need to do more updates soon as the list of review items is gettings smaller ;)12:10
Stskeepskeeping me busy..12:11
Stskeeps:P12:11
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Sagejbos: ping12:16
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Stskeepscrevetor: do you have your llvmpipe stuff anywhere in COBS?15:14
crevetorStskeeps: it's all here : https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Acrevetor%3Allvmpipe15:15
Stskeepsthanks15:15
Stskeepsi'll take a look later tonight15:15
crevetorStskeeps: It's not really pretty though15:15
Stskeepsmeh, development starts out ugly :)15:15
Stskeepser, innovation15:15
crevetor:)15:16
Stskeepsdid you try it in a vmware/virtualbox by chance?15:16
crevetorStskeeps: nope only on the touchpad15:16
Stskeepsok15:16
Stskeepsthat'd be a good place for stabilizing it i think15:16
Stskeeps(also a usecase)15:16
crevetorTrue15:16
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SageX-Fade: sync ping16:25
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Stskeepslbt: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process#project-core_branches_and_tags16:42
Stskeeps(and version numbers)16:43
lbtversion numbers eh?16:47
lbtreal ones that mean something and actually change?16:47
Stskeepswe're not having that discussion right now16:47
Stskeeps:P16:47
lbtthat'll be a no then :(16:47
Stskeepsbut yeah, these versions actually mean something16:48
Stskeepsdiscrete releases16:48
Stskeepsthat's pretty much what i understood from our talks last night and how i would implement it16:50
lbtyep ... reading carefully16:50
Stskeepstrigger a publish = get a version number16:51
Stskeeps= tag16:51
lbtcould we see Core:ARCH:<REL>16:51
Stskeepsyes, fakeobs will handle it16:51
lbtMDS16:51
Stskeepsyes16:51
lbtshorter too16:51
Stskeepsmy idea is that fakeobs moves away from having an actual checked out project-core, but instead just accesses git repo directly16:53
Stskeepsand we add settings/configurability on synchronization16:53
Stskeepson what feeds/branches it should follow16:53
lbtOK - and we can cache sha1 checkouts if we have a very big disk16:54
Stskeepsmm16:54
Stskeepswhat the devil is going on with my OBS16:54
* Stskeeps stares16:54
Stskeepshttp://qtl.merproject.org/9149e510-1c3a-11e1-9c67-00163e6e0038.txt16:55
lbtwasn't me!16:55
Stskeepswhat i'm (intentionally) not writing in that text is how we structure stabilization branches in OBS, but it should just be a matter of following a release branch16:57
Stskeepsie, major release stablization branches16:57
lbtyep16:57
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Stskeepsthat kind of work could theoretically be distributed too, ie, we have a less idle OBS that hosts the old archive ones16:58
Stskeepser, more idle16:58
Stskeepsbut that's just a side thought16:58
lbtAt completion of each build, it will trigger a publish  => At completion of each verified build, it will trigger a publish and increment the Version16:59
Stskeeps:nod:16:59
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djszapiHi! Has anybody experiencing with Mer on Android, is it possible technologically ?16:59
Stskeepsmost (sane) people would follow prerelease and major releases, but first-tier ones could follow master, etc17:00
lbtyes - or when working closely on bug resolution17:00
Stskeeps:nod:17:00
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lbtmmmm   Core:ARCH:<Version> will use a lot of disk17:01
Stskeepswe can just describe archival policy, tbh17:02
lbtCore:ARCH:<Version> -> Specific version; not all versions will always be available.17:02
Stskeeps:nod:17:02
Stskeepsit'll basically be up to MDS admin to select what feeds to follow17:03
lbtpretty much any Mer version change will indicate a single package(set?) change17:03
Stskeepssingle pickup, which may be one or more17:04
lbtyes17:04
Stskeepswe only pick up when builds finish, so they'll accumulate17:04
Stskeeps(some some package changes may interdepend)17:05
Stskeepsalso, that is17:06
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lbtwiki clash17:08
Stskeeps:P17:08
Stskeepsno longer editing17:08
lbtso... 0.RELEASEDATE.0.1.017:09
lbtA.RELEASEDATE.B.C.D17:09
Stskeepsright17:10
lbtif B is 0 then it's pre-DATE17:10
lbtie rc17:10
Stskeepsright17:10
Stskeepsi didn't want to involve ~'s17:10
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lbtponder if you should avoid 0 elsewhere17:12
lbtand small pondering on A.RELEASEDATE-X.X.X-INCR17:13
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lbtso X.X is branches .... and for stable security releases etc you could add an .X17:14
lbtI think17:14
lbt0.RELEASEDATE-0.1-1 > First 'master' completed build after latest release, next release being RELEASEDATE17:16
lbt0.RELEASEDATE-0-1 even17:16
Stskeepsi'd much rather have - for vendor to use to seperate core and other release17:23
lbtI was thinking about giving the branch numbers a definite space17:24
lbtI think it's better to have a dynamic number of branches17:24
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Stskeepsgenerally i just wanted to agree on basic structure, ie, how weekly releases get made17:28
Stskeepsversion numbers we can think a bit about still17:28
Stskeepsright now it's 0.YYYYMMDD.<how many times stskeeps screwed up trying to make a release>17:29
lbtyep - made me think about what other branches may happen17:29
lbtand keeping 'private' copies unique17:29
lbtand thinking of private copies of private copies (as per how Teleca ran with LG)17:30
Stskeeps:nod:17:31
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lbtok ... off for the night now... friend's birthday o/17:32
Stskeepscya17:32
Stskeepsi'll hack a bit on a proposed process17:32
Stskeepshave a good one :)17:32
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ScriptRipperping lbt Stskeeps sent you e-mail18:38
StskeepsScriptRipper: yeah, saw, just making food18:38
ScriptRipperI dont assume asap action but more a consideration and well thought reaction18:39
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ScriptRipperand since I spoke with david, I wanted to make the first step on his proposal18:39
ScriptRipperand write it down and inform you18:40
Stskeeps:nod:18:40
ScriptRipperok, i also will eat now something :)18:40
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SageStskeeps: gave you a bit more stuff to work on ;)19:50
Stskeepsok, i hope the OBS is behaving soon19:52
Stskeepsit's acting a bit erm, psychoti19:52
Stskeepsc19:52
Stskeepswhat the heck..19:54
djszapioh ?19:54
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Stskeepslbt: stupid me, seems like i didn't have obs worker cache enabled at all20:02
Stskeepsno wonder it got overloaded20:02
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Sageok, that is enough for now.20:21
Stskeepsquite a collection20:21
djszapiSage: May I ask you why you imported the whole attica into the apps4meego client ? I heard something, some patch was rejected. Do you have the details ?20:22
Stskeepsadd a newline before Signed-off-by next time20:22
Stskeepsmakes the merged view prettier ;)20:22
SageStskeeps: yes, didn't notice it at first :P20:22
Stskeepshehe20:22
Sagedjszapi: umm... I'm not entirely sure I'm following you20:23
StskeepsSage: good work, hopefully you'll get the reviews during weekend :P20:23
Sagealso yet again didn't test any of those on device. Those compile in my project but that is maily it :)20:24
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djszapiSage: sorry, it was pycage, my mistake :P20:25
djszapilast three characters were ok :p20:25
Sagehehe :D20:26
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ScriptRipperHi Stskeeps21:32
Stskeepslo, saw your reply :)21:32
Stskeepsi am off to sleep soon so i'll answer in the morning if it's okay21:33
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ScriptRipperI hope I dont live in another world wrt to this :D21:33
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araujoSage, Stskeeps any news/idea about bug#9 ?22:09
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damnshockhey guys, how is the last image working? :) any news?22:12
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rdesfohello23:54
rdesfois there a way to get mer on a lg optimus?23:55

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