Sunday, 2011-11-27

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Stskeepsmorn07:46
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lbtmorning08:07
* lbt out at today08:07
Stskeepsaright08:07
Stskeepsalright08:07
Stskeepsbootstrap seems to go on nicely08:07
lbtadd http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/ARM to the review list08:08
Stskeepsyeah, a couple of misconceptions there08:08
lbtI guessed08:08
damnshockmorning everyone08:19
damnshockI see you are all "maƱaneros" as we say in spanish08:20
damnshock(which means people who get up early)08:20
* phaeron1 is rebuilding boss ruby stack ..08:22
phaeron1lbt: I needed :flank which is somewhere in master (future 2.2.1)08:23
lbtphaeron1: need is such a strong word...09:08
lbtphaeron1: what's the cost/benefit?09:09
* lbt ducks and leaves for the day :) o/09:09
Stskeepscya09:10
phaeron1lbt: I can create a flanked process that listens to errors and notify an admin in case of one. instead of refreshing boss-viewer every few minutes09:22
phaeron1lbt: I can also create a flanked process to monitor the request for changes since the start of the main process in case it gets revoked or superseded09:23
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Stskeepsmorn kyb3R-10:34
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kyb3R-morn10:43
kyb3R-about those stats I have been promising to you for a long time10:44
Stskeepsmm?10:44
kyb3R-having several university researchers involved in it, has caused a lot of delays10:44
Stskeepshehe10:45
Stskeepsthat's university life for you ;)10:45
kyb3R-yep :)10:45
kyb3R-but those are coming. It just seems to take a lot of time10:45
Stskeeps:nod:10:45
Stskeepsi've gained a tacit impression of it after some simple statistics10:46
kyb3R-good, dopefully we can provide more sort of detailed view to it10:46
kyb3R-hopefully10:46
kyb3R-or analytical view10:46
kyb3R-but I'll get back to you as soon as I get some graphs10:48
kyb3R-hopefully before end of the year :)10:48
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Stskeepswhat year? ;)10:48
kyb3R-hehe10:49
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Stskeepstimoph: ping11:20
Stskeepsphaeron1: how difficult is IMG to set up?11:28
phaeron1Stskeeps: mm .. moderate ?11:30
phaeron1Stskeeps: I wrote a lot of docs http://autodoc.meego.com/mint/imager/11:31
Stskeepsok11:31
Stskeepsphaeron1: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process is basically what we're trying to get to eventually11:31
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phaeron1alright , I am here to help :)11:32
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phaeron1Stskeeps: so the obs based process is not in ? :(11:33
Stskeepsphaeron1: bits and pieces of it, such as validation11:33
Stskeepsit's just a different approach in Mer since we're git-centric11:33
Stskeepsand using OBS as a builder, not as a review system11:34
Stskeeps / integration request handler11:35
phaeron1yeah I agree, the workflow is already allowing that , you can turn off stages and stuff.11:35
Stskeeps:nod:11:35
phaeron1we can probably merge11:35
phaeron1but for now , just ping if you need something with imager11:35
Stskeepsyeah11:35
Stskeepshttp://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/boss-workflow.git;a=tree is current process11:36
phaeron1I am knee deep in ruby dep chain11:36
Stskeepshehe11:36
phaeron1Stskeeps: cool that's a lot of participants :)11:36
Stskeepsit'll go bigger eventualy as we'll have release process in there too11:37
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Stskeepsdm8tbr: could i request you adding meeting bot module to MerBot?11:46
Stskeepsand activating it for #mer-meeting11:46
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dm8tbrStskeeps: interesting coincidence, remembered that I wanted to do this 1h ago11:53
Stskeepsdm8tbr: reason i'm asking is that it's a good time to start triage meetings :)11:54
dm8tbr*nod*11:55
dm8tbrI just had lunch, let me recover from the brain drain into my stomach and I'll be on to it. feel free to ping me every 30min about it ;)11:55
Stskeepsalright11:56
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dm8tbrStskeeps: could you please create a meeting wiki page on merwiki that I can point to in bot output13:21
Sagedm8tbr: that image was left to the sd card jukka took :)13:28
Sageforgot to dump it to my laptop as well :P13:28
Stskeepshttp://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings13:29
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Sagedm8tbr: I'l do new image in next day or two13:29
StskeepsSage: so far so good on all the merged patches btw13:29
dm8tbrSage: heh, let me know if you make a new one, then I could try to prod my board a bit13:30
SageStskeeps: all of those should be ok. Let me know if something fails and I'll give that a look.13:31
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Stskeeps:nod:13:31
SageStskeeps: one thing that I'm not so sure is your gmp patch and if the gnutls update fixes that13:31
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Stskeepswe13:35
Stskeeps're still bootstrapping on the new obs but starting tuesday latest we should have tests up and running again13:35
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Stskeepsand next release as soon as it's bootstrapped13:35
Stskeepshttp://pastie.org/2928220 so far13:38
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Stskeeps(read: the changes for next release)13:40
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Sagedm8tbr: btw, the ubuntu kernel that was in snowball doesn't boot mer because systemd requires some kernel options so need to recompile kernel anyway for this14:10
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Sagedm8tbr: I found everything needed except the .scr file for u-boot for snowball.14:12
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Stskeeps'lo bergie14:18
dm8tbrSage: aah, ok14:19
Sagedm8tbr: realized that afer I left yesterday14:19
Sagewith meego 1.1 or 1.2 that ubuntu kernel might work14:19
dm8tbrwell yeah, I know it does, it worked for me with one of your n900 images. as I said yesterday14:20
dm8tbranyway, let's keep poking this thing. it might be possible to get EGL up on that thing14:21
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Sagedm8tbr: if you happen to see some .scr file for snowball give me a ping. Couldn't find one from igloo git at least14:24
dm8tbr*nod*14:25
dm8tbrhave you asked on their IRC channel?14:25
Sagehaven't made it so far yet. need to get kernel compiled first to some point :)14:26
Sagegot the u-boot compiled from their git tree already14:26
dm8tbrah, nice14:26
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Sagehttp://www.igloocommunity.org/gitweb/?p=bsp/xorg-x11-drv-ste.git;a=blob;f=debian/copyright;h=6a8fe0eb484d9a8fb9012e040b81e14a4ddd427d;hb=HEAD14:29
Sage^ what is that license called?14:29
StskeepsBSD14:30
Stskeepsnew one, too14:30
dm8tbrcould be MIT14:30
Stskeepshttp://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical14:32
dm8tbrdefinitely looks more like MIT than BSD14:32
Stskeepsif it's xorg, MIT is likely..14:32
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SageIf I have kernel source dir, how can I find out which kernel version is that for if the dir name doesn't tell me?15:55
Sagei.e., what file in side the kernel source dir contains the version?15:56
Stskeepswild guess, version.h?15:56
Stskeepslinux/version.h15:56
ali1234it's in the top level Makefile i believe15:56
Sageah, there it is in the makefile15:57
Sageali1234: thx15:57
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Stskeepscrevetor: so, you managed to make a mesa package with llvmpipe, or manual build?16:12
phaeronlbt: new ruote works :)16:14
phaeronI has flank16:14
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Stskeepssmoku: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mailing_lists , someone left a comment on spam filter16:31
smokuStskeeps: it's not true. empty messages go through fine.  the message got graylisted probably. and the second one (with body) went through as it passed graylist window16:36
Stskeepsah16:37
Stskeepsmake sense16:37
smokuit's simple to bypass graylist though. if you have proper SPF record, messages are not graylisted at all16:37
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smokuStskeeps: I updated the note :)16:41
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timophStskeeps: pong - a bit of latency today :)19:01
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alien_is the kernel-adaptation-pc supposed tu support virtual machines such as those provided by Virtualbox or Qemu?19:47
Stskeepsyeah, ideally, if it doesn't, poke us19:47
alien_it doesn't seem to work19:47
Stskeepsthe idea is that default we'll provide llvmpipe in mer as well, so VM's can do fast gx19:47
Stskeepsis it a SSSE3 machine?19:47
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alien_the host has an i5 CPU19:48
Stskeepsok19:48
Stskeepsso yes19:48
Stskeepswhat errors do you get?19:48
alien_it looks like X fails to start19:49
Stskeepsah, that's more like it19:50
Stskeepsso, how much of a hacker are you? able to do own images?19:50
alien_I did one yesterday19:50
Stskeepsok, and do you have a build.pub.meego.com account?19:50
alien_but I just ran mic19:50
Stskeepsand know how to use 'osc'?19:50
alien_not yet19:50
alien_but willing to learn19:50
Stskeepsok, that's next step - you need the vesa xorg driver19:50
Stskeepsand that isn't part of mer per default19:51
alien_ahh19:51
Stskeepsalien_: get a meego.com account and ask lbt/x-fade to enable it19:51
alien_ok, will do19:51
Stskeepsand possibly talk to sage about getting it included by default to nemo's hardware adaptation for x8619:51
alien_it looks like I have an account19:51
alien_I tried a few months ago19:52
Stskeepsook19:52
Stskeepsthen investigate osc and osc importsrcpkg , taking the .src.rpm from repo.meego.com19:52
alien_how do I see if it's enabled?19:52
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alien_ok19:52
Stskeepstry to log in, on build.pub.meego.com :P19:53
alien_worked19:53
Stskeepsok19:53
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alien_I am trying to add xorg-x11-drv-vesa to my kickstart19:54
Stskeeps:nod:19:54
Stskeepsmight have to build the package first if not existing19:54
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alien_there is one in BPMC19:54
Stskeepsok19:55
Stskeepswhat are you trying to boot?19:55
alien_nemo handset19:55
Stskeepsok19:55
alien_meego-nemo-handset-i586-testing-0.20111120.1.CE.2011-11-2419:55
Stskeepstry to switch to booting qmlviewer at first instead19:55
Stskeepsby editing the session19:56
alien_ok19:56
Stskeeps(and adding qt-qmlviewer)19:56
alien_thanks19:56
Stskeepsi'm interested in mer working properly in VMs, so19:56
alien_well I can only run it in VMs so far, I lost my SD card19:57
alien_so can't try it on my N900 yet19:57
alien_those are so easy to loose :)19:58
Stskeeps:nod:19:58
Stskeepsyeah, i've done that a couple of times19:58
dm8tbrand keeping them in the wallet isn't an option either *grmbl*19:59
* dm8tbr broke 2 cards this way19:59
alien_ouch19:59
alien_it's better to keep them inside the phone20:00
alien_I used to do it until one day20:00
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mingwandroidvgrade: evening.20:47
alien_the image seems to change resolution or something but still not works properly20:55
alien_I wish there was a serial console enabled20:56
alien_trying to enable it20:56
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vgrademingwandroid, hi21:05
mingwandroidhey. was going to do a new root fs for vega. what's the score with kickstarts?21:06
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mingwandroiddid you get QtMultimedia working? I remember that was a bit of a pain on first boot with PA.21:08
vgrademingwandroid, there has been much rearranging of projects on OBS but I think its settling down a bit now, I'll pastie a recent kickstart.21:16
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vgradehttp://pastie.org/293015121:18
Sagealien_: if you find a way to get it working I'm all ears for the solution :)21:18
vgrademingwandroid, this is using the DEVEL Plasma project so things tend to break now and then21:19
mingwandroidthat's cool. you said that the PA devs were using a T2 tab?21:20
mingwandroidI'm proper rusty with all this ;-)21:21
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mingwandroidel-adaptation-archos-touch-devel <- from the KS. which archos is this for? gen 8?21:22
vgrademingwandroid, g921:23
mingwandroidyou got one?21:23
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vgrademingwandroid, yes, for helping with adaptation21:24
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mingwandroidvgrade: is it tegra 2?21:25
vgrademingwandroid, omap421:25
mingwandroidah ok. easily hackable?21:25
vgrademingwandroid, mine is :)21:26
mingwandroidgift from archos?21:26
vgradeloaner I think21:26
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