| lbt | luckily I just need a sha2 passwd module... | 00:00 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 06:28 |
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| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: way too early morning indeed! :) | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, have to sync somewhat with finnish working times | 06:35 |
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| RaYmAn | ah, right | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | (and my wife going to work..) | 06:36 |
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| arcol | hey | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | hey | 07:12 |
| dcthang | morning | 07:13 |
| arcol | can somebody point me to git/svn/cvs/[whatever version control] urls, where the actual mer developing takes place? | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | arcol: sure, https://review.merproject.org , All->Open, All->Merged, and http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | (accept cert) | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | recall mer's just a core, for UI development you'd have to look in plasma active and Nemo and such | 07:15 |
| arcol | I was on wiki's contribution page few days ago (maybe even yesterday?), and this gitweb url, didn't worked. Now works. Thanks! | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | https://review.merproject.org/142 , take a look at comments, gives a pretty good look at the automation behind this thing | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | so how are you interested in Mer? | 07:18 |
| vgrade1 | lbt, I have a number of 'The repository setup is broken, build not possible' messages | 07:19 |
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| vgrade | lbt, one here, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Avgrade%3Ag9testing | 07:20 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: looks like fakeobs machine started, i'll update mer snapshot and restart it | 07:24 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, thanks | 07:27 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: was there any news on llvmpipe, btw? | 07:58 |
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| Stskeeps | i think crevetor got it built for armv7hl at least | 08:01 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: restarted fakeobs | 08:05 |
| Sage | ok | 08:05 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: btw, alsa-utils is on home:sage:Mer:Utils and I'll package git there as well as I need that anyway | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:07 |
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| harbaum | Publishing of plasma for armv7l is still disabled. C'mon guys ... please, just enable it | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=CE%3AMW%3APlasmaActive is at least getting built for armv7l | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | not sure how active effort is being structured | 08:17 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: i got the runtime gfx patches upstreamed btw | 08:20 |
| w00t | so hopefully will be ok for final | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | ok, good | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | how do we activate it in n900? | 08:21 |
| w00t | I need to patch n900 configs | 08:21 |
| w00t | QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=runtime QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM=meego | 08:22 |
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| Stskeeps | if anyone has any patches to send to Mer, the builders are standing idle to run build checks :) | 08:32 |
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| marquiz_ | morning | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 08:40 |
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| mdavey | morning | 08:43 |
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| lbt | morning | 09:03 |
| iekku | hi lbt | 09:04 |
| lbt | hey iekku | 09:04 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: shell rebooted overight | 09:08 |
| lbt | yes - security updates | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:09 |
| lbt | all services should be reboot safe :) | 09:09 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:10 |
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| lbt | I guess you're busy for a few days? | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | pretty much, though i may have some time in the evenings | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | let's see | 09:11 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i updated fakeobs and ran into an issue with https redirect on review.* as noted in /msg when trying to pull with http git | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | as certs aren't set up properly on shell, it seems | 09:17 |
| lbt | yes - didn't understand that | 09:17 |
| lbt | ah - shell.meego? | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | gerrit offers a git:// thing which may be more stable, but let's review that when i'm revamping release process anyway/automating it | 09:18 |
| lbt | how do I reproduce ? | 09:18 |
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| Stskeeps | well, re-enable the redirect on review and try to git clone from git pull http://review.merproject.org/p/mer-core/gmp refs/changes/41/141/3 | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | either way | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | http://review.merproject.org, app itself, redirects to https now | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | so maybe that's better | 09:19 |
| lbt | OK | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | so http://review.merproject.org/p/ still works | 09:20 |
| lbt | 401 here | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i meant wildcard | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | p/* ;) | 09:21 |
| lbt | yes - OK | 09:23 |
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| lbt | OK so ldap/pw issue then ... | 09:24 |
| lbt | iekku: so I want to track IT issues in mer bz ... eg right now many of our services will need a manual restart after a reboot and I need a reminder to go fix that | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | Mer Infrastructure product? | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | i can set that up, too | 09:28 |
| lbt | yep - was just bouncing of iekku in case she had any other cases that were similar | 09:29 |
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| javier | is anyone trying to have the gui installer from 1.2 running on mer? | 09:58 |
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| w00t | not that I know of at least | 10:00 |
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| iekku | if Stskeeps hasn't set it yet i can do it now | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | we aren't likely to support that | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | javier, | 10:05 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/2894717 | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: on way to airport on n950, could you summarize | 10:12 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: implemented what we talked about yesterday, will test some more and see how lbt would like to move forward with that | 10:13 |
| phaeron | then probably upstream it | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 10:13 |
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| javier | Stskeeps: what project would be the right place for the gui installer? | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | javier: x86 adaptations | 10:40 |
| javier | Stskeeps: CE:Adaptation:x86-generic? | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | for example | 10:42 |
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| javier | okis | 10:47 |
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| Sage | http://www.merproject.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi <- moved? Stskeeps? | 11:48 |
| Sage | lbt: ^ ? | 11:49 |
| lbt | yes | 11:49 |
| Sage | ah http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb/ | 11:49 |
| lbt | http://gitweb.merproject.org | 11:49 |
| lbt | sorry ... slow connection today... | 11:50 |
| * lbt is having fun ... implementing SSHA256 for ldap :) | 11:50 | |
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| w00t | (why is that in a subdirectory?) | 12:21 |
| lbt | ? | 12:22 |
| lbt | oh ... I thought it looked wrong to have http://gitweb.merproject.org/?p=mer-core/Makefile.git;a=summary | 12:23 |
| w00t | hrmm | 12:23 |
| w00t | it'd be ok to me, but yeah, i suppose it's a matter of preference | 12:24 |
| w00t | i'm just used to e.g. http://git.freedesktop.org/ taking me right to it | 12:24 |
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| arc_mat | Stskeeps: thanks for the xrandr package. Let's see what I can do with it | 12:58 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: my last submits are a bit of a mess :D | 13:26 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: so many deps to other packages that automation fails them :P | 13:26 |
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| mdfe_ | Sage: hi, where can I find the poppler update to version 0.16.7? | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | should already be in /latest , newest mer releas | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | e | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | and on cobs | 15:20 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: It looks like I have to update poppler-qt to the same version | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | there is a poppler-qt.spec thing | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | in same package | 15:20 |
| mdfe_ | I see | 15:20 |
| mdfe_ | But i cannot find the latest package | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | i should set that link up in mer | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | can you file a bug on poppler-qt missing even though it should be there? | 15:21 |
| mdfe_ | mom | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | also the gcc qtwebkit compiler bug while you're at it | 15:21 |
| mdfe_ | checking if my account works | 15:22 |
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| Sage | mdfe_: hmmp | 15:25 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: hi | 15:26 |
| Sage | mdfe_: btw, don't add any packages to KDE:Devel even if those are missing for Mer we should add those to different project. | 15:26 |
| Sage | just fyi | 15:26 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: agreed | 15:26 |
| Sage | mdfe_: btw, remember that there is also "publish and user for builds flags" https://build.pub.meego.com/package/repositories?package=qt&project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel | 15:27 |
| mdfe_ | But IMHO we strongly need a kind of overview | 15:27 |
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| Sage | mdfe_: so if the package meant for only one target has build on a project it is still used in build eventhough you disable build. | 15:28 |
| mdfe_ | sorry, its not done by myselfe | 15:28 |
| Sage | ok, well I'll fix those | 15:28 |
| mdfe_ | anyway you are right | 15:28 |
| Sage | mdfe_: what do you mean with overviwe? | 15:30 |
| javier | is it possible to get an account on the non-public meego obs? | 15:31 |
| mdfe_ | I need a kind of map for where I can find a repository for a needed package | 15:31 |
| javier | lbt: ^ | 15:31 |
| mdfe_ | javier: forget it | 15:32 |
| javier | ;( | 15:32 |
| mdfe_ | for what do you need this? | 15:32 |
| javier | it would make grabbing dependencies a lot easier | 15:32 |
| mdfe_ | ? | 15:32 |
| javier | the gui installer | 15:33 |
| Sage | javier: what packages you are missign and where do you want them? | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | javier: i have a script that downloads package files without auth | 15:33 |
| javier | Sage: atm, I just need the build dependencies of "installer" from MeeGo:1.2.0:oss on home:javier:installer | 15:34 |
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| Stskeeps | javier: that includes gtk.. i think | 15:34 |
| javier | indeed | 15:34 |
| Sage | mdfe_: In mer the repository architecture is following: Mer Core (~300 packages) -> CE:MW:Shared (~20) -> CE:MW:PlasmaActive -> (~30) CE:UX:PlasmaActive | 15:34 |
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| Stskeeps | javier: that is a nightmare to import :) | 15:34 |
| Sage | javier: you don't want gtk really. also you should look Trunk:Testing probably not MeeGo:1.2.0:oss | 15:35 |
| javier | gtk is gtk, I know ;( | 15:35 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: I know, but I future we need IMHO a kind of overview | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | javier: how about we figure out what is wrong with text installer? | 15:35 |
| Sage | mdfe_: yes | 15:35 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: nothing is wrong, it works | 15:35 |
| javier | Stskeeps: no gui? | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | javier: not a problem, really | 15:35 |
| Sage | we have installer-shell on the x86 image which I use at least and I think w00t used it as well. | 15:36 |
| javier | Stskeeps: for installing Mer on a tablet, yes | 15:36 |
| javier | it requires you to use a physical keyboard | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | you have to anyway for usb install, afaik | 15:37 |
| Sage | javier: actually, no :) | 15:37 |
| Sage | we have maliit on image and terminal and you can use those with tablet :) | 15:37 |
| javier | Stskeeps: silent install? :) | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | and there is non-interactive installs too | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | afaik | 15:37 |
| javier | not an option, if you want to customise the install | 15:37 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: What is about poppler-qt? The packaging in Project:KDE:Mer_Extras does not work anymore, because poppler whas updated in ?mer:core | 15:37 |
| javier | ie: partition layout | 15:37 |
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| javier | Sage: maliit? | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | javier: you do that on .ks level | 15:38 |
| Sage | mdfe_: please remove the Project:KDE:Mer_Extras project if vgrade has no objections as that is really something we should not look at all. | 15:38 |
| javier | Stskeeps: so the user has no option to customise the partitioning :) | 15:38 |
| Sage | javier: google maliit | 15:38 |
| javier | Sage: ok, I will | 15:38 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: meh, there is additional stuff I need | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | javier: you're making product installs and customizing partitioning in meego was a huge problem too | 15:39 |
| Sage | mdfe_: where do you need poppler-qt? | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | often did more harm than good | 15:39 |
| mdfe_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Project%3AKDE%3ATrunk%3ATesting | 15:39 |
| Sage | mdfe_: dude, why do you compile against Project:KDE:Mer_Extras? | 15:40 |
| mdfe_ | mom | 15:40 |
| vgrade | mdfe_, no problem in removing Mer_Extras and using CE:MW:PlasmaActive. | 15:40 |
| javier | Stskeeps: partitioning using the gui installer on meego works ok for us | 15:40 |
| mdfe_ | something has changed | 15:40 |
| vgrade | mdfe_, sage as far as I'm concerned. I did see an issue with a missing dep though | 15:41 |
| javier | Sage: thanks for the info. hmm, we'll consider this option (using maliit) | 15:41 |
| Sage | mdfe_: if something is missing from CE:MW:PlasmaActive we need to add it there. However I can't see any missing deps in Project:KDE:Devel atm. | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | javier: i think you will have better result modifying installer-shell or somehow wrapping it in a terminal | 15:42 |
| Sage | mdfe_: also can we please drop the MeeGo 1.1, Trunk and Trunk_Testing from the Project:KDE:Devel they are not compiling and they won't work anymore anyway.[1;5C | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | javier: i don't believe the old gui installer supports systemd anyway | 15:43 |
| mdfe_ | vgrade, Sage: I will remove the Mer_Extras repos from Project:KDE:Trunk:Testing and Project:KDE:Devel | 15:43 |
| vgrade | sage, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_i586=1&defaults=0&project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel&repo_CE_UX_PlasmaActive_i586=1&unresolvable=1 | 15:43 |
| Sage | vgrade: yes, well those deps should not exist anyway :) | 15:44 |
| javier | Stskeeps: hmm, sounds like trouble :/ | 15:44 |
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| javier | I had forgotten about it | 15:44 |
| Sage | vgrade: those are documentation deps that will bring that 100 packages crap with if not removed | 15:45 |
| Sage | vgrade: I'll submit a patch to fix those | 15:45 |
| Stskeeps | javier: file some bugs in bugs.nemomobile.org on x86 adaptation and lets get some tablet friendly development going | 15:46 |
| vgrade | Sage, yes, just highlighting they need removing from that package | 15:46 |
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| Sage | vgrade: I had already patch just forgot to sumit :D | 15:47 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 15:47 |
| Sage | mdfe_, vgrade: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/3189 | 15:47 |
| vgrade | Sage, I thought you had already done the work on those deps | 15:48 |
| Sage | vgrade: yes, just forgot one submit :) | 15:48 |
| javier | Stskeeps: nemomobile.org? | 15:51 |
| Sage | vgrade, mdfe_ can you give me access to Project:KDE:Mer_Extras | 15:51 |
| Sage | I want to do something to prevent use of that project (not removing the content sjust disabling that) | 15:51 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: Yes | 15:51 |
| mdfe_ | mom | 15:52 |
| Sage | there | 15:52 |
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| Sage | mdfe_: so only repository that you should compile against is CE:UX:PlasmaActive and if some dependency is missing feel free to ping | 15:53 |
| mdfe_ | Sage, you allready have a account | 15:53 |
| Sage | yeah, noticed that :) | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | javier: yes, we host a few hardware adaptation projects | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | javier: not exclusive to Nemo, also usable for PA | 15:53 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: we need qtwebkit from Project:KDE:Mer_Extras | 15:55 |
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| Stskeeps | what was modified in qtwebkit? | 15:56 |
| mdfe_ | latest version | 15:56 |
| javier | Stskeeps: so you are suggesting to me to fill a wish for having a gui installer? | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | javier: pretty much, so people can work together to do it, knowing there is a need | 15:56 |
| javier | Stskeeps: ok. | 15:56 |
| Sage | mdfe_: give me a moment | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: so qtwebkit 2.2 with -O1 to fix compiler error? | 15:57 |
| javier | Stskeeps: I don't know what nemo is. And why not filling it on merproject.org? | 15:57 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: awesome, -O1 fix the build for armv7hl? | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | javier: mer doesn't contain ui or hardware adaptations | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | javier: nemo is our handset work plus n900/n950/n9/PC adaptations | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: ahh.. now i get it | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: it builds for everything but armv7hl :) got it | 15:59 |
| mdfe_ | np | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | javier: we just found a temporary home for the pc adaptation there so | 15:59 |
| Sage | mdfe_: I'll add that to CE:MW:PlasmaActive when I verify that it builds for armv7l and i586 then you have it all | 15:59 |
| Sage | after the build with armv7hl is fixed we can move it to mer core | 16:00 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: awesome | 16:00 |
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| Sage | mdfe_: what is difference with KDE:Devel and KDE:Trunk:Testing? | 16:01 |
| javier | Stskeeps: ok, understood | 16:01 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: KDE:Trunk:Testing is the staging project for kde:trunk | 16:01 |
| javier | Stskeeps: does my merproject bugzilla account work there? | 16:02 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: But at the moment it contains a old version of PA | 16:02 |
| javier | it doesn't ;( | 16:02 |
| Sage | mdfe_: so there is three things.... KDE:TRunk, KDE:Trunk:Testing and KDE:Devel | 16:02 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: yepp | 16:03 |
| mdfe_ | I have a strong need to build images from KDE:Trunk:Testing asap | 16:03 |
| mdfe_ | javier: whats about the state of kde:devel project? | 16:04 |
| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps: how do we proceed with QEMU ? | 16:04 |
| Sage | mdfe_: ok, lets get it build properly then. | 16:04 |
| Sage | mdfe_: can you give me access to KDE:Trunk:Testing so I setup the repos | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | javier: no, just register, for legal reasons we keep user databases seperate :P | 16:05 |
| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps lbt checked the QEMU I pushed to Comm OBS with diverse targets, incl. some mips targets | 16:06 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: what do you like to change? | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: i'm on business trip but it's on my list to add to my own obs for testing | 16:06 |
| Sage | mdfe_: I'll pastebin | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | and ideally distribute with mer core deliveries | 16:06 |
| javier | mdfe_: I just trigger an update for plasma-mobile | 16:06 |
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| javier | *triggered | 16:06 |
| Sage | mdfe_: add this to the project xml http://pastie.org/2898453 | 16:06 |
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| mdfe_ | ah, ok | 16:07 |
| mdfe_ | I will take care on this | 16:07 |
| Sage | mdfe_: and remove the mer extra ones | 16:07 |
| Sage | so we get things aligned properly | 16:07 |
| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps lbt wanted just to remind hat binfmt init script (worker, VM, or local QEMU) needs changes then | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:07 |
| ScriptRipper | just a reminder | 16:07 |
| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps lbt I help you with it interactively when you install it | 16:08 |
| Sage | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AUX%3APlasmaActive <- why scheduled https://build.pub.meego.com/monitor | 16:08 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: done | 16:08 |
| ScriptRipper | so you dont knock out your OBS | 16:08 |
| ScriptRipper | unitl it works again | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | gtg | 16:09 |
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| Sage | mdfe_: good, so now it builds against the proper target. | 16:09 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: greate thanks | 16:10 |
| Sage | mdfe_: please remove those mer extra things. those do not work properly anyway. Now when things get a bit broken for a moment lets remove legacy stuff | 16:10 |
| Sage | ok, time to move from work to home :) | 16:11 |
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| Sage | bbl, mdfe_ ping if you have problems. | 16:11 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: I will drop all dublicated stuff from Mer_Extras and do not build anymore PA against Mer_Extras | 16:11 |
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| Sage | mdfe_: I already disabled all the Mer_Extras repos so it doesn't build at all | 16:35 |
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| lbt | Sage: qtwebkit only builds on pub04 | 17:08 |
| lbt | so it's sequential | 17:08 |
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| Sage | lbt: uh, why? | 17:14 |
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| Sage | lbt: I remember the qt compile on separate host, but why qtwebkit? | 17:21 |
| Sage | that is relatively small compared to qt rigth? | 17:21 |
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| w00t | no | 17:22 |
| w00t | especially not in terms of RAM | 17:22 |
| w00t | webkit takes multiple gb to link | 17:22 |
| Sage | oh, didn't know that. It is just that with one process only for those it is relatively slow to compile those :/ | 17:28 |
| Sage | vgrade: is someone using the armv6l compiles of plasma active btw? | 17:30 |
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| slonopotamus | i got teh LED working on N800 with 3.1 kernel | 17:54 |
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| bigbluehat | slonopotamus: woot! | 17:57 |
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| slonopotamus | bigbluehat: just was annoyed it was always ON :) | 17:57 |
| vgrade | Sage, I did a v6 build to try on Pi but that experiment is over now until there is a plasma-lite. So if you need to disable, feel free | 18:00 |
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| Sage | vgrade: ok | 18:15 |
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| * lbt feels chuffed .... SSHA256 .so for slapd and deconstructed bugzilla's rather....unique.... implementation :D | 18:53 | |
| lbt | which basically means we have kinda-SSO for merproject driven by bugzilla and LDAP authentication elsewhere | 18:54 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: ^^^ :D | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | soon, we'll be able to actually hack ;) | 18:54 |
| lbt | all kinds of weird crap .... bugzilla pre-pends the salt after b64 encoding the hash... ldap appends it before encoding... etc etc | 18:55 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: I made some submits to mer btw, if you didn't notice | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | yes i did | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | i even merged some | 18:56 |
| Sage | in addition to those I would like to get alsa-utils and git to next mer release | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | git.. how about in Mer:Tools ish | 18:57 |
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| * w00t hides from g it | 18:57 | |
| w00t | soooo many packagessss | 18:57 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: well I'm ok with that. Maybe CE:Utils for now | 18:57 |
| w00t | I stopped when I decided I wasn't willing to put my hand up to maintain 30 perl packages | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind a Mer:Utils distribution really | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | that's a second citizen to the core | 18:57 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I updated the gnutls if it would fix the gmp build failure btw. | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:59 |
| Sage | didn't test that though | 19:00 |
| Sage | if it actually fixes it | 19:00 |
| Sage | if only I could remember what I tried to update when I was blocked by that gstreamer is too old problem | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4 | 19:01 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: so... how do you think we can best enable meego gs on i586? | 19:04 |
| w00t | i'm not familiar with their hardware adaptations, but is that the right place to do it? | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | well, what would the point be? | 19:05 |
| w00t | faaasssst. | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so, what things does it use.. | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:05 |
| w00t | I should take a video of my lenovo | 19:05 |
| w00t | EGL_KHR_fence_sync at least | 19:05 |
| w00t | I'm trying to find the rest, but it's somewhat laborious as the source is the only documentation | 19:05 |
| w00t | oh, hah | 19:06 |
| w00t | there's a single file with them all ;) | 19:06 |
| w00t | http://qtl.me/xT8.txt | 19:06 |
| w00t | some of this is optional | 19:08 |
| w00t | ... I think | 19:08 |
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| Stskeeps | i hope | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | NOK extensions | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:10 |
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| w00t | that doesn't mean what you think it means, i'm pretty sure | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HtzwswaN-k <- cool | 19:11 |
| w00t | what's your concerns, anyway, so I know what to look into | 19:12 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo grahamluckhurst, gabrbedd | 19:14 |
| gabrbedd | Hi Stskeeps! How've you been? | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | gabrbedd: good :) | 19:14 |
| w00t | i'm going to take a video on my lenovo to show you the difference in performance, anyway | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | hacking and hacking | 19:14 |
| w00t | :P | 19:14 |
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| gabrbedd | me, too. | 19:14 |
| w00t | we're talking about "hmm, that's okay" and "holy shit, that's awesome" sort of difference | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | gabrbedd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQLIjcYAMU , Nemo on Mer goodness :) | 19:15 |
| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: will watch in a bit... my lappy is hammered on a build ATM. | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | k | 19:16 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: looking at those videos.. n900 has the same problem of flash on unredirected windows | 19:16 |
| w00t | i'm going to mail kimmo and see if he has any ideas to solve it, i guess | 19:17 |
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| crevetor | Hi guys | 19:24 |
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| crevetor | does anyone have the pyside packages for mer ? | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | i think someone needs to update the existing ones | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | how's the llvmpipe experiments coming? | 19:25 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: not great I managed to build and install it but then mthemedaemon crashes whenever I start an application that connects to it. I have to install the debuginfo package for it and gdb it | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/glestest.cc | 19:27 |
| crevetor | let me try that :) | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/glestest is armv7l version | 19:28 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: did you see that I started populating the wiki with instructions on how to get mer running on the toucpad ? | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | nop, didn't see | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | let me take a look | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | where? | 19:30 |
| crevetor | wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/Touchpad | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | ah, there | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 19:30 |
| smoku | a bit unfortunate name ;-) | 19:31 |
| crevetor | smoku: sort of. I think HP chose an unfortunate name... | 19:31 |
| smoku | crevetor: yeah. it begs the question, will it run on a touchpad in my laptop ;-) | 19:31 |
| crevetor | lol | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: oh wow, you're on fire | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | continue like that and you're going to beat my count of commits :P | 19:33 |
| Sage | :P | 19:35 |
| Sage | had couple of minutes time to spare :P | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 19:35 |
| Sage | some easy updates (tm) | 19:36 |
| Sage | also checking that I can do everythin with my netbook | 19:36 |
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| Stskeeps | i do (eventually) want to do some 'osc' plugins to make this contribution easier | 19:40 |
| * Stskeeps prays his MIPS gcc finishes building | 19:41 | |
| crevetor | is there something to configure in xorg for it to "load" egl ? | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | np | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | no | 19:42 |
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| Stskeeps | egl technically exists outside xorg | 19:42 |
| crevetor | so it should just be a matter of libraries... | 19:42 |
| Sage | ok, that is it for today | 19:48 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: waiting for results | 19:53 |
| crevetor | Humm... "[meego@localhost ~]$ ./glestest | 19:56 |
| crevetor | Didn't get exactly one config, but 0" | 19:56 |
| crevetor | that's .. progress | 19:57 |
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| Stskeeps | a bit | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | that's with llvmpipe? | 20:04 |
| crevetor | yes | 20:05 |
| * w00t uploads a video of raster-vs-meego | 20:05 | |
| crevetor | My fb is at 24bpp I'm trying to check if that could be the issue | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | did you export the environment variables | 20:06 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: which ones ? | 20:06 |
| crevetor | for the libs ? | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, export EGL_LOG_LEVEL="debug" , export EGL_DRIVER=gallium , export EGL_PLATFORM=x11 | 20:07 |
| w00t | oof, 40mb, this might take a while | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | before running glestest | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | export GALLIUM_DRIVER=llvmpipe too | 20:07 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: lemme try that | 20:11 |
| crevetor | much mor info :) | 20:13 |
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| crevetor | Result of sorts : http://pastie.org/2899727 | 20:20 |
| w00t | oof | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | progress | 20:22 |
| crevetor | Seems very much inside LLVM though... Don't how easily I can play in there | 20:23 |
| Stskeeps | http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=9223 | 20:24 |
| Stskeeps | we should look into llvm 3.0 | 20:24 |
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| crevetor | I'll try and build it | 20:25 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: http://youtu.be/9PROBPzM45Q | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that does look faster | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | why is it faster? | 20:30 |
| w00t | because raster will involve redrawing a large part of the screen (and reuploading a huge texture) ~every frame | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:31 |
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| w00t | so I really would like us to try get this enabled everywhere it's possible | 20:32 |
| w00t | I wonder how feasible runtime checking is, heh | 20:32 |
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| Sage | wow, some of my updates don't actually break other packages :P | 20:36 |
| w00t | lol | 20:37 |
| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: very nice... looking sharp! What was the hardware on the video? N950? | 20:37 |
| w00t | you sound surprised | 20:37 |
| w00t | gabrbedd: n9 apps? wasn't that an n900? | 20:37 |
| Stskeeps | gabrbedd: n900 | 20:37 |
| captainigloo | somebody knows how to change kernel cmdline on the n950 ? | 20:37 |
| Sage | w00t: well, look at http://review.merproject.org/#q,status:open,n,z | 20:37 |
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| w00t | Sage: *nod* | 20:37 |
| Sage | at first didn't go so well :P | 20:37 |
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| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: I've been wanting to try to get it working on the TI Blaze stuff... but haven't had any spare cycles. | 20:43 |
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| lbt | iekku: what's your meego username? to replicate on mer | 21:11 |
| lbt | andre__: you're 'andre' ? | 21:11 |
| lbt | w00t: | 21:12 |
| lbt | Sage: ? | 21:12 |
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| lbt | what usernames do you all want on mer | 21:13 |
| * lbt afk for 15m ... just reply :) | 21:13 | |
| xruxa | lbt: jakub | 21:14 |
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| Sage | lbt: sage .. | 21:43 |
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| lbt | ta | 21:46 |
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| lbt | https://www.xkcd.com/974/ :D | 21:50 |
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| lbt | tonights is XKCD night.... https://www.xkcd.com/979/ | 21:57 |
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| willypeanut | hey | 22:00 |
| lbt | good evening | 22:01 |
| willypeanut | where can i get nemo for download? | 22:01 |
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| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Nemo is a good start - links to the releases/images | 22:02 |
| lbt | what device? | 22:03 |
| willypeanut | thank you | 22:03 |
| willypeanut | n900 | 22:03 |
| lbt | np - don't forget http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 too | 22:03 |
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| willypeanut | hmmm... i am confused i need to reflash n900 with nemo, or just install it over an existing OS | 22:05 |
| lbt | for the N900 you need an SD card | 22:07 |
| lbt | and you boot from that | 22:07 |
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| lbt | you first need to ensure you have the right fremantle and uboot packages installed | 22:07 |
| lbt | see http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/GettingStarted | 22:08 |
| willypeanut | eh damn i broke my sd card when i tried to install android...so there is stop for me | 22:08 |
| lbt | 'broke' it ? | 22:08 |
| willypeanut | yes no device can't recognize an i can't even format it | 22:09 |
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| willypeanut | thanks for you help | 22:11 |
| willypeanut | bye | 22:11 |
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| andre__ | lbt: andre I am on meego, yeah | 22:53 |
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