Sunday, 2011-11-20

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palyacoso i'm doing some kernel hacking02:08
palyacoand i was just wondering what the current status is w/ nokia 770/8x0 umac driver integration into new kernels02:08
palyacois anyone still doing work on this?  has anyone been able to make umac play nice with recent kernels?02:09
palyacoor is everyone over maemo <5?02:09
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cxl000palyaco the p54spi driver works on n81003:45
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palyacocxl000, does it work on the 770?03:54
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cxl000palyaco I have not tried to build an armv5tel image of Mer.04:23
cxl000and I no one else has mentioned trying.04:28
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befordhey cxl000, you are working on n810 mer, right? :)04:55
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cxl000beford yes. I have taken the openwrt patches and built an adaptation kernel and perform some X configuration05:31
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befordawesome, would love to help you, I have a n810 myself05:49
cxl000I have create a wiki page to track efforts:
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cxl000What aspects of the integration are you interested in or do you think you can help with?05:59
befordI am checking what is currently being worked on, and building the image06:09
befordI suppose its not possible to work on nemo ux without working pvr drivers, right?06:13
cxl000There is lots to choose from basic system functionality to GUI integration06:13
cxl000It may run with software rendering.06:14
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Stskeepsnemo might be a little tough to have going on there06:33
Stskeepspalyaco: i don't think there's a working driver for the 770 wifi chipset, which is sad, considering the good support for everything else06:36
cxl000Is Mer armv5tel available on COBS?06:46
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Stskeepsno, we don't have an armv5 port06:47
Stskeepsbefore making that i'd like there to be a proper demand, and have the resources/build power to maintain it :P06:48
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Stskeepsonce there is, it's fairly easy to kickstart one :)06:51
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Stskeepsmorn phaeron09:03
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Stskeepsphaeron: in typical release settings, if a change breaks anything, is it pulled out or is it expected to be fixed before actual release?09:49
arc_mat|tpStskeeps: hi09:49
Stskeepslo arc_mat|tp09:49
arc_mat|tp[09:23] <Stskeeps> arc_mat|tp: you had  307.224] PVR:(Error): PVRSRVOpenDCDevice: Error - 138 returned [95, /bridged_pvr_dc_glue09:49
arc_mat|tp[09:23] <Stskeeps>  too?09:49
arc_mat|tpyes, I have that error09:49
Stskeepsarc_mat|tp: Sage noticed a funny thing, this happened when his HDMI cable wasn't plugged in09:49
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arc_mat|tpoh, interesting09:50
Stskeepsso i'm wondering if display is properly set up09:50
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arc_mat|tpI'm wondering if the Xorg pvr driver somehow assumes that a HDMI display is connected09:50
arc_mat|tpbecause in configuration I didn't even announce that display anywhere09:51
arc_mat|tpI stripped down the omap_gpu config to just one manager and one display09:51
Stskeepswell or any display09:52
Stskeepsi think you'd be able to see it in kernel as i think the DC glue happens in kernel space09:53
arc_mat|tpI've been plugging debug output everywhere in drm and pvr drivers, but no clue yet09:54
arc_mat|tpwell, one clue:09:54
arc_mat|tpI see that the display is properly set up when the device boots, but as soon as Xorg starts things go soutch09:55
arc_mat|tpuserspace tries to set a difference display resolution, causing a teardown of the previously configured frame buffer and video chain, but it never actually brings up the display again09:56
arc_mat|tpsomething goes bad in the middle09:56
arc_mat|tpStskeeps: would be very helpful to have xrandr somwhere, to be able to query the display layout the X server assumes09:57
Stskeepssure, i'll build a copy10:00
Stskeepsarmv7l right10:00
lbtmorning all10:00
Stskeepsmorn lbt10:01
phaeronStskeeps: sorry I am trying out empathy and it doesn't notify properly of messages ..10:01
Stskeepsphaeron: i have the same problem with pidgin :P10:01
phaeronStskeeps: due to the trial build stage , nothing is allowed to introduce breakage10:02
lbtdefine breakage10:02
Stskeepslbt: (feedback wanted)10:03
lbtOK - opened it10:04
phaeroncurrently everything and its reverse deps should build10:04
lbtphaeron mentioned that all workers are dead10:04
Stskeepsah, fun10:04
phaeronwhen we have ots , then all included tests should pass10:04
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lbtthe upstream tmpfs seems to result in phost death due to oom10:04
phaeronStskeeps: my pidgin setup is perfect10:04
lbtphaeron: and then when a manager gets involved?10:05
Stskeepscan't we replace managers with a python script..10:05
lbtwe did it for RE10:05
lbtI'd use perl though .... more realistic10:05
phaeronwell there should be staging areas for planned breakage10:06
Stskeepswe do need proper dependency handling in mer changes10:06
Stskeepslbt: once you're done fighting with workers - can we make bugzilla export to ldap a priority for today as we then can launch reporting bugs for next mer release?10:07
lbtyes - was on that yesterday10:07
Stskeepsit's likely to happen later tonight or tomorrow10:08
Stskeepslbt: ew10:08
Stskeepsphaeron: did you see my comment on localdep btw and how it actually wastes more time than it should?10:08
phaeronno , please tell me :)10:09
Stskeepsphaeron: so, two scenarios: we enter a change to package X into a typical Trunk environment, that is, everything is built once already. X triggers the rebuild of the packages that depend on Y as it is different than the old package10:11
Stskeepsand those packages, if changes, trigger rebuilds of their reverse deps, etc10:11
Stskeepsscenario two:10:11
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Stskeepswe enter a changed package into a localdep, it looks for it's old built rpms and can't find it, so it triggers a rebuild of reverse deps10:12
Stskeepsthis happens too for reverse deps - they can't find their "old" versions, and trigger additional rebuilds10:13
Stskeepsso it rebuilds the entire tree, which would not happen in scenario 110:13
Stskeepsif we added functionality to check the "old" packages in a localdep scenario, we would use a lot less resources for localdep10:14
phaeronthat's true. also add to that the fact that when trial build is done and we accept request everything rebuilds again although the results are available in the trial build10:14
phaeronso I would like a way to "merge" a project link to its origin10:15
Stskeepsthe technical side of it: bs_worker requests the old package in getoldpackage, by asking for the build result of the package itself10:15
Stskeepsand if we could make that look in 'path' too when localdep, that'd be really nice10:15
Stskeepsas it is a lot less load on the OBS10:15
Stskeepsif i change a core package, it practically rebuilds everything10:16
Stskeepsinstead of the ~20 min job it would take to realize nothing's changing10:16
phaeronyes and ideally the rebuild chain breaks at the first unchanged result10:16
Stskeepsso that functionality would be really nice to have for obs 2.310:17
Stskeepsas far as i can tell, you'd 'only' have to add a field for localdep="1" in buildinfo, and ask bs_worker to look in paths in such a case10:18
phaeronwhat do you think about the "merge" idea10:19
Stskeepsi wouldn't mind someone fixing linked builds properly, because it is really broken at times :P10:19
Stskeeps'merge' could be interesting too10:20
phaeronot: empathy is much better but it still needs some polish10:21
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captainigloothere is a way to get/build a sdk for mer ?10:29
Stskeepswell you can start making one ;)10:29
Stskeepsgenerally people use osc atm10:29
captainiglooah, but it's a pain to always package code you"re working on10:30
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slonopotamuscxl000: ping10:31
Stskeepscaptainigloo: agreed, you can usually script your way out of that though10:31
captainiglooyeah, but it's usually faster to, code, compile, deploy, test :)10:32
captainiglooi see there is wiki pages about meego sdk10:32
captainiglooi will try to see how to do that10:32
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lbtwe haz a worker back....10:37
* lbt goes back to churn the rest10:37
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dm8tbrwhat's breaking them? still FC?10:38
lbtnah I fooked up the tmpfs thing I think10:38
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dm8tbrbtw: what's the sanest way to set up an OBS nowadays? install opensuxxe and pull in the rpms? or dd the appliance to the system drive?10:39
* lbt doesn't believe in appliances10:39
dm8tbrdoesn't have to be pretty, would be a one-off thing for a couple of days only anyway10:39
lbtwell, in that case I do10:40
lbtif you can't be arsed setting up DNS and are happy with random port-based urls and just want it to show off then appliance is great10:41
dm8tbrwe're having a hacking session here in tampere and I was asked if we can set up a local obs for fun and experimentation10:41
dm8tbrjust need to poke kyb3R and timoph to find out which targets they want10:42
dm8tbrin totally unrelated news: anyone ever used the crystal-hd with gstreamer on their exopc? -- stuff builds fine for me, but gst plugin doesn't get listed etc10:43
phaerondm8tbr: if you want an appliance I have one, but I have to stop advertising it here :)10:44
lbtphaeron: an OBS appliance?10:45
phaeronyes 2.3 beta , I linked to it here yesterday10:45
lbtdo you guys realise how much sysadmins will hate you if you just give them an unmanagable appliance to run?10:45
lbtso long as they're targeted as "trial installation" and documented well enough to be scaled up10:46
lbtthen that's fine10:46
Stskeepslbt: on the other hand, OBS has been a nightmare to set up traditionally10:46
phaeronappliances are for hacking and proof of concepts etc ..10:46
Stskeepslbt: so we need good guides10:46
dm8tbryes, that's how I use appliances10:46
phaeronand demos etc10:46
lbtStskeeps: yeah ... so publishing a 20Gb tarball is not the answer10:46
dm8tbrone off demo shot of things10:46
lbtdid you see the request from the OBS light team?10:47
phaeronthat's not an appliance10:47
dm8tbryes, that was pure comedy gold10:47
lbt"we have a 20Gb appliance in a tarball.... can we put it on the wiki"10:47
* Stskeeps twitches10:47
lbtthe problem is... they're *not* used as PoC10:48
lbtthey're used as base installs10:48
lbteven though "oh, we'll install it properly when we get going"10:48
lbtNokia ran on the "demo install" until today10:48
phaeron dm8tbr if you are interested10:48
lbt</rant> :)10:49
Stskeepslbt: at least OBS used to be more screwed up than your guide10:49
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Stskeepsso that's a step forward10:50
lbtadrian is at least working on a book too10:50
slonopotamusno, really, you STILL fight with obs? how many years you need to understand that the best use of obs is total avoidance of it?10:50
lbtbut last time I tried I needed a suse desktop to edit it :(10:50
Stskeepsslonopotamus: oh shush with the trolling10:50
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cxl000 slonopotamus pong10:55
slonopotamuscxl000: i send you an email already10:55
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lbtze workers arise...10:55
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cxl000Thanks. I have reworked the hotplug scripts into a oneoff systemd script. I'll see if revertinging that patch publishes retu-rtc values in /sys11:02
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marquiz_good day11:03
marquiz_i got the dual boot working, finally11:04
Stskeepscool :)11:04
marquiz_i'm preparing the packages and pushing them to pub obs11:04
Stskeepssounds good11:04
marquiz_this initial version is based on your rescue initrd11:04
marquiz_so no bme or anything11:04
marquiz_looking into moslo in the future11:04
marquiz_i have no idea if it works on n9, though11:05
cxl000slonopotamus The openwrt hotplug scripts are not extracting the MAC so I'll try your libcal.11:05
Stskeepsthere's an odd issue on some N9's at least where you can't do usb connected + loading a unsigned kernel over flasher, so it is rather random11:05
Stskeepsbug, not feature11:05
marquiz_mm, do you have  an n9? :)11:06
Stskeepsnot yet11:06
Stskeepsi've been meaning to buy one :P11:06
Stskeepssome people have succeeded though11:06
marquiz_me too, it's rather expensive, though11:06
marquiz_i mean i've been thinking of buying one11:06
Stskeepsthey even have it on two cell providers here11:07
phaeronStskeeps: I'll give that idea a shot and see if I can implement it11:12
Stskeepsphaeron: alright, localdep or merge?11:12
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phaeronlocaldep is simpler11:19
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smokurepo is missing qemu-arm-static - where should I report it?11:34
slonopotamuscxl000: i run wifi on n800@linux-3.1 without any mac setup from userspace at all. cxl000: i run n800 wifi on openwrt kernel without any setup from userspace. dunno how it decides what MAC to use though.11:34
Stskeepssmoku: we're setting up a Mer Tools repo11:34
lbtSRs welcome11:36
smokuStskeeps: great. thanks11:36
smokuI will try whether Fedora_14 repo works under Fedora 1511:37
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slonopotamuscxl000: also, i see absolutely no reason to set MACs exactly as they're stored in CAL. nobody cares what is your MAC if it is unique on network you connect to.11:45
Stskeepsit's random, usually11:46
cxl000slonopotamus is you mac C0FFEE?11:46
Stskeepsor somehow invalid MAC11:46
slonopotamuscxl000: no idea. i just booted 3.1 kernel, set up wpa_supplicant and got working wifi11:47
slonopotamusStskeeps: it isn't that random, it is stable across reboots.11:48
slonopotamusw/e, for me wifi Just Works.11:48
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cxl000The openwrt calvaria/cal2p54 sets the MAC in the generated eeprom/firmware11:50
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slonopotamuscxl000: hmm... i just used 3286 file initfs11:53
slonopotamuscxl000: instead of script11:54
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cxl000Is your rootfs also openwrt?12:02
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smokuStskeeps: how do I use qemu-usermode-static? does it need any special setup?12:16
Stskeepsbasically it needs to register with binfmt_misc12:18
smokuoh. it's just all qemu-arch linked statically and bundled in one package12:19
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Stskeepsit's used to emulate arm binaries12:19
smokuok. I thaught it's something different to qemu-arm-static :)12:19
smokuok. the opensuse package installs fine on fedora 16 and works :)12:20
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Stskeepsit's just staticbinary anyway12:20
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smokui needed to remove fedora qemu packages though as they conflict12:20
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smokushould I post a note on the wiki anywhere?12:21
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Stskeepscan refer to it on Contribution page too mmayb12:27
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slonopotamuscxl000: no, i use gentoo12:35
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smokuStskeeps: don't follow :/13:06
Stskeepssmoku: as in, - or the tools page is fine13:06
smokuI don't think it fits Contribution page :/13:07
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smokuI added a note to the Tools page13:13
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smoku$ file /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/gobject-introspection-0.10.8/tmp-introspectY2_vaJ/GLib-2.013:27
smoku/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/gobject-introspection-0.10.8/tmp-introspectY2_vaJ/GLib-2.0: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.25, not stripped13:27
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smoku$ ldd /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/gobject-introspection-0.10.8/tmp-introspectY2_vaJ/GLib-2.013:27
smokunot a dynamic executable13:27
smokuStskeeps: any idea what is the problem with ldd ?13:27
Stskeepsldd is host or device13:27
Stskeepser, device=chroot13:27
smokuosc chroot13:27
Stskeepsthat does look a bit odd13:28
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smokuit looks like ldd is borked13:34
smoku$ file /bin/systemctl13:35
smoku/bin/systemctl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.25, stripped13:35
smoku$ ldd /bin/systemctl13:35
smokunot a dynamic executable13:35
smoku$ file /usr/bin/ldd13:35
smoku/usr/bin/ldd: Bourne-Again shell script text executable13:35
smoku$ file /bin/bash13:36
smoku/bin/bash: symbolic link to `/emul/ia32-linux/bin/bash'13:36
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Stskeepsmm, that might be related13:36
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smokuisn't running "accelerated" bash breaking ldd?13:36
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Stskeepsi'd hope not13:36
smokuwhere is the arm bash located?13:37
Stskeeps bash.orig-arm13:37
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Stskeeps in /bin/13:37
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Stskeepssmoku: can you report a bug on (say OK to cert)?13:37
StskeepsMer Crosshelpers -> Other13:37
smoku$ /bin/bash.orig-arm /usr/bin/ldd /bin/systemctl13:38
smokunot a dynamic executable13:38
smokualso fails :/13:38
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Stskeepsok, that's awkward13:38
Stskeepshang on13:39
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Stskeepsis there a /usr/bin/ldd.orig-arm ?13:40
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Stskeepssmoku: grep RTLD= /usr/bin/ldd13:43
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smokuStskeeps: no. there is only one /usr/bin/ldd13:44
smoku$ grep RTLD= /usr/bin/ldd13:44
smoku    RTLD=13:44
smoku[02]) RTLD=${rtld}; break;;13:44
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StskeepsRTLDLIST= i mean13:44
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Venemo_N950hey guys :)13:46
smoku$ grep RTLDLIST= /usr/bin/ldd13:46
Stskeepssmoku: hmm13:46
smoku /lib/ -> ld-2.13.so13:47
smoku /lib/ ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped13:47
Stskeepssmoku: /lib/ --verify /bin/systemctl13:47
Stskeepsecho $?13:47
smokuhi Venemo13:48
Stskeepsfailure, odd13:48
Stskeepsfile a bug please13:48
smokuand it's not my local problem13:48
smokuI've been tracking OBS build failure and it comed to this13:48
smokuStskeeps: sure. as soon as I get my account creation e-mail ;-)13:50
Stskeepssmoku: hopefully soon13:54
marquiz_Stskeeps: finally pushed the stuff to community obs13:55
Stskeepssmoku: try again13:56
marquiz_very basic functionality, e.g. no automatic re-partitioning or anything13:56
marquiz_Stskeeps: but it's a first step, and can be tested13:57
smokuStskeeps: try again what? :)13:57
Stskeepssmoku: to make an account email13:57
Stskeepswas a bad setting13:57
smokuStskeeps: done13:58
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Stskeepssmoku: yeah, now it reported greylisting :) it wasn't set up correctly before13:58
marquiz_Stskeeps: gotta add volume key polling next, so that you can choose between Harmattan and the 2nd OS, now it always boots to 2nd OS, if found13:59
smokuok. :)  so i'm waiting for retry13:59
marquiz_gotta go for a while, my wife presses me to clean the house ;)14:00
* Stskeeps has to finish packing too14:00
marquiz_traveling for fun or professional?14:00
Stskeepsprofessional, will be in helsinki tomorrow evening - thursday afternoon14:01
marquiz_join for a beer at some evening?14:02
Stskeepssure, i don't have much plans14:02
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marquiz_me neither, e.g. tomorrow or tuesday evening would be fine for me14:03
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marquiz_but gotta go cleaning now....14:04
Stskeepsalright, i'll just msg you and you can respond later :)14:04
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lbt :)14:15
lbtnow need to do dinner ... then ldap/bz14:15
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Stskeepslbt: i can update cobs's fakeobs if you want to take them for a spin14:38
Stskeeps(new mer release)14:38
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smokuStskeeps: still no mail from BMO. i re-requested account twice already15:46
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Stskeepssmoku: i saw it send it at least15:52
smokuautosorted to Bugzilla folder ;-)15:53
smokuTo continue creating an account using this email address, visit the15:53
smokufollowing link by November 23, 2011 at 15:45 UTC:15:53
smokumissing the host15:53
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smokuStskeeps: Bug 2 has been added to the database16:02
smokuEmail sent to: no one16:02
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Stskeepssmoku: yes, we operate differently in mer, instead of having people who never respond to the bugs they are default assignee for, we have weekly bug triage meetings for prioritising and handing out/grouping16:07
Stskeepsto get people involved16:07
lbtStskeeps: back now...16:08
lbtStskeeps: are you leaving later? or in the morning ?16:08
Stskeeps11am tomorrow to airport16:08
lbtOK - let me kick the perl/ldap around a bit and then do mer release on c.obs ... it'll be "So there's a new mer snapshot ... what do I do now?"16:09
lbthey sage16:11
* Sage tries to get pandaboard xbmc stuff today out16:11
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smokuStskeeps: ok :)16:20
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marquiz_evening Sage16:27
_av500_Sage: panda xbmc works? with hw accell?16:34
_av500_i saw some xbmc devs yesterday, they knew nothing about it :)16:35
Sage_av500_: panda with xbmc and 3d accel yes16:41
Sageposting a blog entry today in couple of hours. Just uploading the image through very slow connection :/16:41
Sage_av500_: thanks for the help along the way btw if I haven't thanked you already. the sector hasle with image creator etc. :)16:42
_av500_np :)16:42
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_av500_Sage: punt the url in #pandaboard pls16:43
_av500_(once its out)16:43
Sage_av500_: will do16:43
Sagethere is many things not working but well, I can play h264 video and have 3d accel so that is a start :)16:44
Sageaudio, wifi and bluetooth not working16:44
Sagerj45 works though so I have network16:44
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smokulbt: - scummvm is spinning in 'building' for quite a lot time :/16:48
lbtjust busy?
smokuaw.  it's prograssing so slow, that I was thinking it hung16:51
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Stskeepsno cross compiler in the harmattan target i think16:52
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Stskeepsneat, they're actually making custom n9 commercials here in .pl17:26
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Stskeepslbt: so, in theory, all you have to do is 'make update' inside ~stskeeps/release-tools on shell17:35
Stskeepsas user stskeeps17:35
lbtok - ldap is coming along17:36
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lbtit doesn't ask for a 'login' - nor does it ensure it's unique17:38
lbtwell, if it doesn't ask for it it certainly doesn't check it :D17:38
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Stskeepserm, it = bugzilla or?17:39
lbtyes - bz... so I think I'm going to need to hack that bit of bz17:39
lbtlogin name has to be an email17:39
Stskeepsit doesn't have a login thing?17:40
Stskeepsi'm seeing in meego bugzilla stuff like stskeeps <>17:41
lbtyeah that works when bz is secondary - ie it searches ldap for the username and pulls the email17:41
lbtit has a DB column extern_id17:42
lbtwhich is/will be stskeeps17:42
Stskeepsshould i alongside look into user registration outside bugzilla?17:42
lbtI think I can make it work17:42
Stskeepslogin name has to be an email meaning what?17:43
lbt"To create a Bugzilla account, all you need to do is to enter a legitimate email address."17:44
Stskeepsso how do we assign a username of sorts then17:45
lbtwere you registered at that one?17:45
lbtI just tried to register as you assuming a "go away" would occur17:45
Stskeepsatm the setting for not allowing to register in db isn't set17:46
Stskeepshmm, i have to go for a bit17:47
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wmaronekernel question: if u-boot is passing in parameters and the kernel has a command line in the .config, which wins?18:47
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Venemo_N950good evening :)18:52
smokuwmarone: depends on kernel .config; normally passed commandline wins, but there is a .config option to ignore passed one and always use compiled-in18:52
wmaroneyeah I think that was added after 2.6.3218:54
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Stskeepslbt: back19:19
lbthey ... scratching around in bz...19:19
lbt"how hard can it be?"19:19
Stskeepswell, you know perl, i don't19:20
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Stskeepsso what's the issue?19:22
lbtI need to hack bz to read a username:
lbtthen I need to "correctly" validate that it's not taken19:23
w00tsurely that's just a case of @*!&%!!#(!(&///###??5#%, right?19:23
* w00t runs away19:23
lbtw00t: you missed a )) but otherwise yeah19:23
w00tperl: line noise, or swearing? you judge!19:24
lbtbz is actually nicely written19:24
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w00tyeah, i know it can be done properly19:24
w00tjust kidding around :)19:24
StskeepsSage: good work on xbmc :)19:25
lbtw00t: I know19:25
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lbtI know how much effort it took in meego - and that was the guy that runs drupal.org19:28
Stskeepstrue, true19:29
lbtnow it could be due to bakery and sso19:29
lbtbut I don't know php19:29
Stskeepsyeah, let's just make it bugzilla centric19:29
lbtthis is just taking time because I'm being careful and committing to git and checking and bz is live whilst I edit...19:30
lbtand I've never edited/seen/installed bz before ... so ... interesting19:30
Stskeepslbt: so, i'd like to send out the mer release message before sleep, mind if i do the make update?19:31
Stskeepsah, nevermind19:32
Stskeepsi wanted to wait for bugzilla19:32
Stskeepsi'll wait with it for tomorrow :)19:32
lbtshould be good later19:32
SageStskeeps: thx, need to get audio and then I could actually use it :P19:35
Sagealso the screen not aligned properly is a bit of a problem19:36
Sagehowever AFAIK it is only my TV that has that :P19:36
Stskeepsdon't you have a zoom option thing?19:36
Stskeepsmy phillips one always screws up19:37
Sagenah, those don't help as the screen isn't actually zoomed but moved about 4 inches to the left.19:37
Sageon XBMC I zoomed it a bit so I can see everything however I can't move it to right as the screen "ends" 4 inches before the actual panel :P19:38
lbtvga mode timings?19:39
* lbt runs a homemade SCART->VGA adaptor with a PAL signal coming from the vga card...19:40
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Sagehehe, I'm using HDMI so I highly doubt it is that :)19:40
SageEDID information sent by the TV isn't valid or something like that19:41
lbtyep - I had to hand tune my DVI projector EDID19:41
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ali1234i do the scart thing too19:46
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ali1234the thing about EDID on HDMI is it will often send the modelines for HD modes, not the native panel mode19:47
ali1234then the TV up/downscales it as appropriate19:48
ali1234quite often by just cutting of some lines19:48
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ali12341366x768 is fairly common in "HD" TVs19:48
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Sageneed to take a look of that after I get the audio working on panda :)19:54
smokuStskeeps: some time ago you pointed me to an igalia guy working on porting parts of libhildon to gtk3. do you have the links handy? as I'm unable to google them atm :/19:57
Stskeepssmoku: i tried to find them the other day with no success19:57
Stskeepsi'm sure the 50k EUR went up in smoke, or something :/19:58
jonnorsmoku: and
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jonnorsmoku: Carlos was the one focusing on Hildon->GTK things20:13
lbtsmoku: did you get an email from bz in the end?20:17
phaeronlbt: hey20:18
lbthey phaeron20:18
phaerontrying to implement the prjlink enhancement that Stskeeps described20:19
* lbt trying to make bz master ldap20:20
phaeronI am wondering things like, can a project link to multiple projects, or can it build against multiple paths20:20
Stskeepsit can actually link to multiple :/20:21
Stskeepsand against multiple paths20:21
lbtit can?20:21
Stskeepsyeah, it can20:21
lbtmultiple instances of <link> ?20:21
phaeronand in that case do I have to iterate on each looking for binaries20:21
phaeronwhat if they exist in both20:21
smokulbt: yes. i got them all. just looking in the wrong folder. ;-)20:21
lbtsmoku: ta - I just found mine .... in the sending Q on merproject: <>: Recipient address rejected: Greylisted20:22
lbtew ... were the links malformed?20:23
phaeronlbt: it makes sense , since links make only the _source_ available somewhere else.20:24
phaeronStskeeps:  but this complicates things. where and which binary to return :)20:24
lbtreturn a list, each of which needs to be cmp() ... if any are the same then match?20:25
lbtStskeeps: yay ...20:26
phaeronwhat if they are not the same , which to return to the worker as "old"20:26
lbtrnd() ?20:27
lbtjust to annoy the testers)(20:27
lbtwhy are you returning it to the worker?20:27
phaeronthe idea is that workers need an "old" to see if the "new" is different. if not it emits a "build unchanged" and breaks the localdep build chain20:29
phaeroncurrently the link just says "does not exist" and the chain propagates20:30
lbtso it doesn't *need* the old...20:30
lbtit just wants to compare new against something20:30
lbtso now you return 2 things20:31
lbtthe algo is "if either matches then assume build unchanged"20:31
phaeronmmm and then ?20:31
lbtthere is a risk of course - maybe it should do "if both match"20:32
phaeronif they are not the same then that's impossible :)20:32
lbtyep - I though of that as an optimisation20:32
Stskeepsi don't mind a third type of mode that forces one-link20:32
lbtdoes it just pass around md5 BTW20:32
lbtIt seems to make sense to keep md5sums of all binaries to ease doing bindiff20:33
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phaeronlbt: not it returns a cpio stream of all the binaries requested20:33
* lbt vomits20:34
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lbtmaybe an optimisation tweak there then?20:34
phaeronwell rpm diff needs the files afair20:34
phaeronbecause it ignores things that can change the md5sum20:34
lbtmmm - I guess if it knows about timestamps...20:35
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lbtso write rpmd5sum20:35
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lbtmultiple <link> is really odd20:37
lbtwhat does it do with 2 same-name pkg?20:37
phaeronfor now I will finish this poc with only single link and singe repo support20:38
phaeronproof of concept20:38
Stskeepspiece of crap?20:38
lbtyou mean "what we're going to end up deploying"20:38
phaeronjust to see it work20:38
* Stskeeps heads off to sleep20:39
lbtStskeeps: fyi20:39
lbtI registered a new account with a username20:39
Stskeepsoh congratulations20:39
lbtwhich means ldap can work20:39
lbtit's .... hacky20:39
phaeronStskeeps: any insightful comments ... ? :D20:39
Stskeepsphaeron: single-link single-path is fine with me20:40
phaeroncool :)20:40
Stskeepsphaeron: just be aware buildinfo will give you multiple paths20:40
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Stskeepsie, first the project itself, then the one it builds against, etc..20:40
phaeronso far I am using the prj meta20:40
Stskeepstake a look at /obs/jobs/ - quite some insight earned from there20:41
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phaeronI only delete files from there :D20:42
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lbtlooking for someone to help test Mer user registration ... mustn't have a bz account20:58
vgrade1accept the cert?21:01
lbtwould you like to accept the Mer CA cert?21:01
lbtif you add that to your browser CA list then you get all merproject stuff without needing more certs21:02
vgrade1conf email received21:02
vgrade1clicked link, ok21:03
vgrade1Welcome to bz21:03
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lbtcool - you're in and it has a username21:05
lbt"The user error string uid_already_taken was not found. Please send email to Carsten Munk describing the steps taken to obtain this message. "21:05
lbtI think I need a translation string somewhere :)21:06
lbtOK ... ldap soon21:06
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Venemommm, Raspberry Pi stickers look awesome on da Ideapad's windows key :)21:10
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phaeronlbt: mmm it works :D21:15
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lbtphaeron: yes ... you've not registered...21:17
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phaeronhmm ?21:18
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lbtyou may need to add elsewhere21:22
lbt(the REST definitions)21:23
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lbtline 19 is pythonic21:24
lbtif ($repo->{"name"} eq $repoid && $repo->{"linkedbuild"} eq "localdep") {21:25
lbt$repo->{"linkedbuild"} is undef if it doesn't exist21:25
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phaeronlbt: got disconnected21:41
lbtnp ... did you get the tiny comment about l1921:43
phaeronno I didn't21:47
lbtif ($repo->{"name"} eq $repoid && $repo->{"linkedbuild"} eq "localdep") {21:47
phaeronno need to check if linkedbuild is defined ?21:48
* phaeron comes from python21:48
lbt$repo->{"linkedbuild"} is undef if it doesn't exist21:49
lbtperl actually has :    exists  $hash{ $key };21:50
lbtwhich is like :  key in hash21:51
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smokuStskeeps: looksee :)22:34
smokuStskeeps: last three items ;-)22:34
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lbt*sigh* ... I just wanted ldap and bz to use the same pw.... why do I end up rebuilding slapd23:49
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kimjunext step is reimplementing slapd from scratch?23:53

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