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| wmarone_ | wow, a defconfig for the B&N Nook Tablet | 03:15 |
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| wmarone_ | I wonder if it'll build something usable out of the box | 03:15 |
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| ali1234 | i thought defconfigs were banned? | 03:21 |
| wmarone_ | banned? | 03:21 |
| ali1234 | yes, as in not allowed to be commited to mainline any more | 03:21 |
| wmarone_ | don't think they are | 03:21 |
| wmarone_ | but this is B&N's dump | 03:21 |
| ali1234 | oh, ok | 03:22 |
| wmarone_ | and usually they strip the defconfig/turn off /proc/config.gz | 03:22 |
| wmarone_ | and it's built | 03:22 |
| wmarone_ | now I just need a nook tablet | 03:23 |
| wmarone_ | heh | 03:23 |
| wmarone_ | in fact, this might work with meego outright since it's 2.6.35 | 03:23 |
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| iekku | morning | 05:43 |
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| dcthang | morning | 06:00 |
| sethstorm | g'morning | 06:09 |
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| dm8tbr | moaning | 06:32 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 06:33 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: what was the status of N810 and Mer? bt, wifi, battery, display? | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: you'd have to ask cxl000 / look on wiki | 06:59 |
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| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N8x0 | 07:00 |
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| Stskeeps | dcthang: are you using original usb cable for the n9 btw? | 07:00 |
| Sage | ah, so quite much still todo. | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 07:01 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: yes | 07:01 |
| dcthang | with the usb in the pack with N9 | 07:01 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: is there a SIM lock by chance? | 07:01 |
| dcthang | what u mean about that? SIM lock? | 07:01 |
| Stskeeps | ie, tied to a certain mobile provider | 07:02 |
| dcthang | ah no | 07:02 |
| dcthang | SIM-lock free | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:02 |
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| dcthang | unsuccess with booting meaning failed with loading kernel.. | 07:16 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: do u know where the package for N9 kernel adaption ? | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: CE:Adaptation:N950-N9 on build.pub.meego.com | 07:21 |
| dcthang | yeah ..go there to visit .. | 07:22 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: flasher -l -k vmlinuz-*bootloader -n initrd* -b | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | does that do anything useful? | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | flasher == flasher-3.5 | 07:24 |
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| dcthang | no | 07:29 |
| dcthang | yes, I'm using the old flasher (3.5) | 07:29 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: do we have any arguments for booting kernel? | 07:50 |
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| Stskeeps | no, shouldn't provide any either | 07:50 |
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| dcthang | donot know if Jon from http://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/ is here | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | not online at the moment at least | 08:05 |
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| dcthang | in bootloader, boot/commandline, it has root=/dev/mmcblk0p4 rootwait, is that correct? | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:55 |
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| dcthang | do you have a debug bootloader package? | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | it's not really a bootloader :) just a special kernel | 08:59 |
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| dcthang | yes, but does it have brother with debugging messages? :) | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | not really, there's a special LCD on the n950/n9 so it's notoriously difficult to debug a kernel | 09:01 |
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| av500 | Stskeeps: no serial? | 09:02 |
| dcthang | ok, i dunno abt that. | 09:02 |
| av500 | Stskeeps: special how? | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | av500: omap dss manual update display without kernel being able to do a proper fbcon on it | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | av500: take a hard look at a n9 and ponder where on earth you try to interface with a serial port :) | 09:03 |
| av500 | Stskeeps: hmm we had manual update displays too | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | av500: yeah, me too on n8x0, for some reason 'auto' mode doesn't fly | 09:04 |
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| dcthang | one problem i'm still pondering is: dunno why I can't update new firmware for the N9 | 09:14 |
| dcthang | mine is 10.2011.34-1.., but the new one is 20.2011.40-4 | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | well, it might not be in your market yet | 09:15 |
| dcthang | might be | 09:15 |
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| Stskeeps | w00t: think we can drop -fast, it causes odd stalls in compilation | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | (and hides optimization issues) | 09:24 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: bah, i forgot about that | 09:25 |
| w00t | do you want me to submit another change with that? | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | go ahead | 09:26 |
| w00t | http://review.merproject.org/142 | 09:29 |
| w00t | ... | 09:29 |
| w00t | forgot specify | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | didn't update spec file | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution#Responding_to_reviews | 09:29 |
| w00t | hmm? what part of it? | 09:30 |
| w00t | I know to amend, at least | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | change-id | 09:30 |
| w00t | change-id is already there | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:31 |
| w00t | I add them pre-commit via a hook | 09:31 |
| w00t | ok, now done | 09:32 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: Could you show me the image after you run flasher command from your phone? | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: only camera nearby right now is the n950 itself so not easily | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | it shouldn't show "NOKIA" for sure though | 09:46 |
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| dcthang | okay, so it's different meanwhile N950 and N9 look the same.. | 09:48 |
| * Stskeeps checks some things | 09:49 | |
| javier | hi | 09:56 |
| javier | I'm getting file /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache conflicts between attempted installs of gtk2-2.20.1-1.1.i586 and gtk-update-icon-cache-noop-0.1-1.1.i586 | 09:57 |
| javier | it seems gtk is part of the core group | 09:57 |
| javier | anyways, creating a mer-based image fails because of the above error | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | gtk doesn't exist in mer | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | but you're right, it should conflict | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: ^ | 09:59 |
| javier | I meant gtk* as in gtk2 | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i know | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | gtk2 isn't part of mer and we're trying hard to keep it out of dependancies :) | 10:00 |
| javier | :) | 10:00 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: How many capacity of your N950? 64Gb or 8Gb | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | 16gb | 10:26 |
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| dcthang | the same to mine | 10:27 |
| dcthang | ah could you send me the log from terminal when you run flash command? | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | looks same as yours | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 10:28 |
| dcthang | likes this one http://pastebin.com/ji3mWtFc | 10:28 |
| Sage | hmmp... Not sure what I can do with that conflict | 10:28 |
| Sage | both provide same file | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | well the noop stuff should conflict with gtk2 | 10:29 |
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| * javier wonders what is pulling gtk-update-icon-cache-noop | 10:39 | |
| javier | our meego-based image doesn't have it | 10:41 |
| javier | and we don't explicity include any gtk stuff - we don't need it for Plasma Active :P | 10:42 |
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| dcthang | clear device | 10:53 |
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| harbaum | javier: What are you doing with plasma? | 11:08 |
| harbaum | And btw: Are you using vgrades repository when you use plasma? | 11:09 |
| javier | we are trying to build a mer-based image for plasma active (i586) | 11:10 |
| javier | the repo I'm using is Mer_Extras_i586 | 11:10 |
| javier | vgrade is focusing on arm stuff afaik | 11:11 |
| javier | harbaum: ^ | 11:11 |
| harbaum | Me too, i just wanted to know if there ar enewer builds | 11:11 |
| harbaum | Where is "Mer_extras_xxx" ? | 11:12 |
| javier | here: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel | 11:12 |
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| harbaum | I wonder if it makes sense to use the armv7l branch of that instead of vgrades private repository | 11:14 |
| harbaum | javier: What's your .ks file? I am e.g. missing declarative-plasmoids in that repository | 11:17 |
| javier | one sec | 11:18 |
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| javier | http://repo.pub.meego.com/Project:/KDE:/Mer_Extras/Mer_Extras_i586 | 11:18 |
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| javier | we are also using that one | 11:19 |
| harbaum | i am confused .. there is no declarative-plasmoids in that | 11:20 |
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| javier | it's in the Mer_Extras_i586 repo | 11:22 |
| javier | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=declarative-plasmoids&project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel | 11:22 |
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| Sage | X-Fade: sync ping | 11:38 |
| X-Fade | Sage: Ok, sync running | 11:40 |
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| javier | file conflicts fixed. thanks :) | 12:01 |
| javier | a mer image is being built | 12:02 |
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| javier | failed to open /dev/kmsg for logging ;( | 12:16 |
| javier | mer's installer fails with that error | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | what adaptation? | 12:18 |
| javier | what do you mean? | 12:20 |
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| javier | I'm just using a custom kickstart file | 12:21 |
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| javier | i took the ks file we had for MeeGo and updated the package list | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | well, what PC adaptation is it using | 12:23 |
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| javier | a wetab | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | ok, show me the kickstart file | 12:25 |
| javier | one sec | 12:26 |
| javier | http://paste.kde.org/~javier/147152/13215328/ | 12:28 |
| javier | it's WIP | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | ok, first off, switch to CE:Adaptation:x86-generic, not sage's homedir | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | drop repo --name=mercore --baseurl=http://releases.merproject.org:2082/Core:/i586/Core_i586 as wel | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | l | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | (and never ever refer directly to the OBS again :) | 12:29 |
| Sage | ???? | 12:30 |
| Sage | ah | 12:30 |
| javier | ok | 12:30 |
| javier | ks updated :) | 12:31 |
| javier | I am not sure if I need some repos such as ce-apps-i586, ce-ux-mtf-i586 or e-mw-shared-i586 | 12:32 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: I really wonder how did the bluetooth work in the first place http://review.merproject.org/143 | 12:39 |
| Sage | at least after that I can actually use the bluetooth :D | 12:40 |
| Sage | on asus eee pc and mer | 12:40 |
| Sage | not sure if that works on N900 etc. as well but might fix those as well | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | ah :) | 12:41 |
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| Sage | that is first of the 10 todo with systemd :P | 12:42 |
| Sage | should work with older systemd as well | 12:42 |
| javier | ah | 12:50 |
| javier | in the meego image we are using kernel-adaptation-pinetrail and in mer kernel-adaptation-pc | 12:51 |
| Sage | javier: in meego 1.3 the pc replaced pinetrail and oaktrail kernels | 12:54 |
| Sage | in mer we branched from meego 1.3 so we have the -pc kernel | 12:55 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: is is possible to submit to gerrit to fix submit by someone else? | 12:55 |
| Sage | i.e., adding stuff to someone commit made by someoen else? | 12:55 |
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| Stskeeps | i suppose theoretically? | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | give it a try? check out his patchset | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | and then add cangeid | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | changeid | 12:57 |
| Sage | ok, will try when I get the set tested | 12:57 |
| Sage | and if I have time for that today | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | fedora has something regarding systemd-units btw in their systemd spec | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | might be a good area to align on | 12:58 |
| Sage | true, but our console packages were wrong thus serial didn't work at all | 12:58 |
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| Stskeeps | ah | 12:58 |
| Sage | trying to see if relocation helps to those | 12:58 |
| javier | Sage: ah ok, so the kernel we are using for mer is ok for the wetab | 13:01 |
| Sage | javier: should be yes | 13:02 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/2877796 <- most of the systemd errors are like that. copypaste errors :) | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 13:12 |
| slaine | What version of the mic toolset are we depending on ? | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | git, because of systemd | 13:12 |
| * Sage sends patch to mic master to fix latest image build | 13:12 | |
| Stskeeps | the intel guys are making a new recoded image creator too | 13:12 |
| slaine | Or are we moving away from mic to something upstream supported like appliance-tools ? | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | mm, not sure they're so good with ARM | 13:13 |
| slaine | it's also barely upstream supported | 13:14 |
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| Sage | mic is just a fork from some fedora live cd creator or something | 13:18 |
| Sage | however that fork was done long time ago when moblin v2 started | 13:18 |
| slaine | it was reworked heavily for meego though | 13:18 |
| Sage | I know | 13:19 |
| slaine | appliance-tools is similar in that it's based off the same python packaging code that anaconda uses (much like mic) | 13:19 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: is there a way to just pull down the latest obs-repos/ directories for fakeobs ? | 14:12 |
| javier | same issue :-/ failed to open /dev/kmsg for logging: No such file or directory; ohmd GLIB error - invalid plufin as #0 in reordered plugin list, ath3k probe: error loading firmware | 14:13 |
| javier | it doesn't boot up | 14:13 |
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| Stskeeps | slaine: git pull; make update | 14:16 |
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| slaine | make update, right | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | it will update everything and signal to obs'es things have changed | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | might want to restart fakeobs too | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | before that | 14:19 |
| slaine | fakeobs isn't running atm | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | ah ok | 14:19 |
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| javier | has anyone tested the Mer installer? | 14:34 |
| javier | if I choose it when booting up a live image, it just gives me 6 ttys | 14:35 |
| vgrade | javier, yes I tried it on the Exopc | 14:35 |
| javier | the installer doesn't start | 14:35 |
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| javier | vgrade: you got it working? | 14:36 |
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| vgrade | yes | 14:39 |
| vgrade | is the installer in the kickstart? | 14:40 |
| javier | "installer"? | 14:42 |
| javier | I might have removed some extra packages by accident | 14:43 |
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| javier | in the meego image we had the "installer" package but it's no longer available for Mer it seems | 14:45 |
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| Stskeeps | there's a installer-shell thing in 1.3 instead | 14:47 |
| smoku | javier: the installer works on my images. | 14:47 |
| smoku | javier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4XxQpJpitY | 14:47 |
| javier | ok, thanks | 14:47 |
| javier | video included :) | 14:47 |
| javier | smoku: I suppose you're using installer-shell | 14:48 |
| javier | so no gui installer available atm? | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | there's no gui installer in meego 1.3 | 14:49 |
| smoku | javier: yes. see http://codex.xiaoka.com/pub/mer/mer-pinetrail-i586.ks | 14:49 |
| javier | we're using 1.2 for our meego images, but the idea is to migrate to mer | 14:50 |
| javier | in 1.2 there's a gui installer | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: and mer uses the textmode installer as does meego 1.3 ) | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | they dumped the gui installer | 14:50 |
| javier | I see :) | 14:50 |
| javier | thanks for the info btw :-) | 14:51 |
| smoku | with a complete-image oriented distribution (not typical mix-and-match by user) there is not much need for gui installer | 14:52 |
| javier | right | 14:53 |
| javier | if the os is oriented to be pre-installed and not be touched | 14:53 |
| smoku | with Mer you always have prebuilt rootfs image. so the only job of installer is to prepare partition and transfer the files from image | 14:53 |
| smoku | s/Mer/products based on Mer/ | 14:54 |
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| javier | I see | 14:59 |
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| harbaum | Why is the publishing in https://build.pub.meego.com/package/repositories?package=declarative-plasmoids&project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel disabled for armv7l ? | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | fluke, maybe | 15:35 |
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| harbaum | who can enable it? | 15:39 |
| harbaum | it's disabled for certain packages which doesn't make much sense | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/users?package=declarative-plasmoids&project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel | 15:41 |
| harbaum | no checkbox is set there ... so nobody is maintainer ??? | 15:45 |
| Stskeeps | i think all of those are | 15:46 |
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| Stskeeps | morn crevetor | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | any luck with my llvmpipe notes? | 15:46 |
| crevetor | hey Stskeeps | 15:46 |
| harbaum | vgrade: Sage, javier, can one of you plea enable publication of all armv7l packages in KDE:Devel? | 15:47 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: Just completed building llvm, now trying my luck at building llvmpipe | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: alright | 15:47 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: I'm looking for tha package providing makedepend ATM | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: 'imake' | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 15:47 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: that's what I've read but in ubuntu it's xutils-dev | 15:48 |
| Stskeeps | it's imake in mer at least | 15:49 |
| crevetor | ok I'll try that out | 15:50 |
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| javier | harbaum: I don't know if there's a reason for having it disabled | 15:55 |
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| harbaum | can't hurt to enable it, can it? | 15:59 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: which qemu are we using ? | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | 0.14.1 | 16:19 |
| lbt | so c.obs Mer:Tools is the "official" repo? | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | unsure, i haven't taken anything from there yet | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | (yes, we need to get the qemu story straight..) | 16:21 |
| X-Fade | I reverted to 0.14.1 when we tried the 0.15 experiment. | 16:23 |
| X-Fade | 0.14.1 is 11.3 default. | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper had some pretty good idea for project-centric qemu's | 16:23 |
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| Stskeeps | utilizing aggregates | 16:23 |
| lbt | yes, I recall that. | 16:23 |
| lbt | I want proejct-centric kernels too | 16:24 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: have you ever seen this : "/bin/sh: t: command not found" | 16:58 |
| crevetor | WTF is t | 16:58 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: ping | 16:59 |
| gabrbedd | crevetor: the letter after s | 16:59 |
| gabrbedd | where are you seeing this? | 16:59 |
| crevetor | When trying to build mesa | 17:00 |
| gabrbedd | sounds like a stray letter got into a build script. | 17:05 |
| gabrbedd | It's the same as what you would get if you typed 't' on the command line. | 17:05 |
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| crevetor | Ok I found a workaround | 17:07 |
| berndhs | alias t echo | 17:07 |
| crevetor | gabrbedd: I know but then there might be a t command | 17:08 |
| crevetor | Anyway if you have python it uses python instead of t | 17:08 |
| crevetor | so it's all good | 17:08 |
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| Stskeeps | crevetor: binutils missing, maybe | 17:10 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: anyways it's building now | 17:10 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 17:11 |
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| javier | mount -t btrfs -o relatime,compress,subvolrootid=0,subvol=meego_home /dev/sda2 /tmp/sysimage/di/home | 18:09 |
| javier | mount: /dev/sda2 is not a vlid block device | 18:09 |
| javier | installer-shell seems to have trouble | 18:10 |
| javier | that happens after it runs mkfs.btrfs /dev/sda2 | 18:11 |
| javier | then btrfs subvol create /tmp/sysimage/di/meego_root | 18:12 |
| javier | error: can't access to /tmp/sysimage/di | 18:12 |
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| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps: project centric qemu can be done in 2 ways: put a qemu pkg into the x86 build and use the "x86 crossbuild accelerator" or use an aggregate from | 18:40 |
| ScriptRipper | another project were we have OBS related pkgs | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:41 |
| ScriptRipper | the first variant has the advantage for static binaries that we dont need all pkgs build | 18:41 |
| ScriptRipper | qemu needs to be packaged | 18:41 |
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| Stskeeps | how difficult do you think it will be to deploy crossbuild to MIPS, btw? | 18:41 |
| ScriptRipper | in the target project where qemu is needed | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | i think it's just about exporting -x86 to the right places | 18:42 |
| ScriptRipper | MIPS depends on buggyness of QEMU Usermode for MIPS | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | it's going fairly decently so far | 18:43 |
| ScriptRipper | I dont check MIPS builds for say a complete distro yet | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:43 |
| ScriptRipper | if its good enough, then lets also do MIPS variant and give it a try | 18:43 |
| ScriptRipper | I have both ways of qemu injection working | 18:43 |
| ScriptRipper | e.g. in the project or from outside via aggregate | 18:44 |
| ScriptRipper | I prefer aggregate because it does not need "in project packaging" | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 18:44 |
| ScriptRipper | and I dont need to debug also potential glibc bugs in the target distro | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | i think i'll try to see if i can make a cross compiler in about a week or so | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | for mips | 18:44 |
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| ScriptRipper | which exact QEMU do we use now, that is the question | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | i have one from the mips meego people, 0.12 and patches for 0.14 i haven't tried out yet | 18:45 |
| ScriptRipper | we can use opensuse distro qemu used by opensuse-arm | 18:45 |
| ScriptRipper | we can use meego build qemu or we can use a pre 1.0 git master qemu | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:46 |
| ScriptRipper | i had tested pre 1.0 git master on meego 1.2 | 18:46 |
| ScriptRipper | shall we use that one ? | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | i need to catch a bit up with qemu so not sure how to answer that one :) | 18:47 |
| ScriptRipper | I need at least some patches inside qemu | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:47 |
| ScriptRipper | 0.15 is too buggy, and also linaro is not interested to help debug there | 18:47 |
| ScriptRipper | with more git master like qemu 1.0 rc they would help us more | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | so ah, i didn't know 1.0 was available | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | well, rc | 18:48 |
| ScriptRipper | qemu 1.0 rc, not release | 18:48 |
| ScriptRipper | yet | 18:48 |
| ScriptRipper | i have pkg also building for debian | 18:49 |
| ScriptRipper | that would be advantage to *use that version* and not the opensuse-arm | 18:49 |
| ScriptRipper | variant | 18:49 |
| ScriptRipper | that is not yet debian packaged | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | well, with aggregate we just need two: rpm and deb, right? | 18:49 |
| ScriptRipper | I did work to make debian version also build | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | as it's just static binaries | 18:50 |
| ScriptRipper | but what about the users that want to local build and install local osc client ? | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | true | 18:50 |
| ScriptRipper | I see a lot of Debian / Ubuntu users here :D | 18:50 |
| ScriptRipper | ok, so where do I dump my QEMU Devel pkg source to ? | 18:51 |
| ScriptRipper | MeeGo comm OBS ? | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | build.opensuse.org could work | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | i mean, if it's multidistro anyway | 18:52 |
| ScriptRipper | yes | 18:52 |
| ScriptRipper | I had adapted the bin-fmt handler fix alex graf had introduced | 18:52 |
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| ScriptRipper | so that argv passing works correct then | 18:53 |
| ScriptRipper | I move to that with my complete OBS systems | 18:53 |
| ScriptRipper | and with local build | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | binfmt handler fix? | 18:53 |
| ScriptRipper | if you dont use binfmt handler using :P option | 18:54 |
| ScriptRipper | then argv handling expands arg 0 | 18:54 |
| ScriptRipper | which is a bug towards not using binfmt and qemu | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 18:54 |
| ScriptRipper | this can cause trouble in make or so | 18:55 |
| ScriptRipper | if cross build is on, this is not seen for the binaries that are not emulated anymore | 18:56 |
| ScriptRipper | and might be reason why we dont see any trouble with this in MeeGo and Mer | 18:56 |
| ScriptRipper | on ARM | 18:56 |
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| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps stil there ? | 19:02 |
| ScriptRipper | so what do we do ? | 19:02 |
| ScriptRipper | I want to see it also in that OBS that does the Mer builds | 19:02 |
| ScriptRipper | which one is that ? | 19:02 |
| ScriptRipper | I want to check it if it works here | 19:03 |
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| ScriptRipper | before we let it damage Mer | 19:03 |
| ScriptRipper | lbt, do you use virtual machine builds ? | 19:03 |
| ScriptRipper | on the Mer build system ? | 19:04 |
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| ScriptRipper | then I can test my qemu on the Mer builds with only limited effects to other projects | 19:05 |
| ScriptRipper | lbt Stskeeps ? | 19:05 |
| lbt | hey | 19:06 |
| lbt | just cooking dinner :) | 19:06 |
| lbt | ScriptRipper: we were just discussing "the qemu story" | 19:07 |
| javier | any ideas why the installer doesn't start on boot up? I have bootloader --timeout=0 --append="quiet" --menu="autoinst:Installation:systemd.unit=installer-shell.service" on my ks file | 19:07 |
| javier | installer-shell is part of the image | 19:08 |
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| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: yes, i use kvm at least | 19:26 |
| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps can I upload this qemu some where where I can check if : binfmt :P and MIPS works with the target where you want to use it ? | 19:28 |
| ScriptRipper | openSUSE OBS seems not to be the place for that | 19:28 |
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| ScriptRipper | we have already an QEMU in use there | 19:28 |
| ScriptRipper | so I dont need to check anything there, nor can I check what I propose there | 19:29 |
| ScriptRipper | opensuse-arm used a qemu with :P, new patches, and with an aggregate | 19:29 |
| lbt | what do you need ScriptRipper? | 19:30 |
| ScriptRipper | I need an OBS where my MIPS / Mer target can be checked | 19:30 |
| ScriptRipper | does community OBS do so ? | 19:30 |
| ScriptRipper | I only need a opensuse 11.4 or 12.1 build target for the aggregate | 19:31 |
| ScriptRipper | then I can create a project with a repo and an aggregate an check Mer | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: i think i can do it but i'm waiting for it to bootstrap right now (mips port) | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | i'll poke you when that finishes up, had to fix some patches in system | 19:33 |
| lbt | I'm sure that could be arranged on c.obs - Stskeeps... which would make most sense for your experiments? | 19:33 |
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| ScriptRipper | I dont need MIPS build yet. Will check my solution first with ARM | 19:34 |
| ScriptRipper | when you are ready then we check MIPS | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 19:34 |
| ScriptRipper | Can I do that in the Comm OBS ? | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | i think so | 19:35 |
| ScriptRipper | good. which is the Mer repo target I should use for my check ? | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Building_against_Mer_in_COBS lists the relevant repos | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | Mer:fake is a remote link | 19:36 |
| lbt | that was only ever supposed to be a "see if it works" name ..... | 19:36 |
| ScriptRipper | I dont care were it comes from, just need the binary pkgs | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | that works | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: worksforme | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 19:37 |
| ScriptRipper | good | 19:37 |
| lbt | :) | 19:37 |
| ScriptRipper | so I check <path project="Mer:fake:Core:armv7l" repository="Core_armv7l"/> | 19:37 |
| ScriptRipper | as well as armv7hl | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | armv6 if you're adventorous is also there | 19:38 |
| ScriptRipper | do I also have some src pkgs to check which make my life easier ? | 19:39 |
| ScriptRipper | I tend to check glibc for example | 19:39 |
| ScriptRipper | because it always makes trouble | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | linkpac from Mer:fake:Core:armv7l for example | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | it contains sources | 19:39 |
| ScriptRipper | good. | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | i use 'acl' as my primary test usually | 19:39 |
| ScriptRipper | sure, for the first check its fine, and small and fast build | 19:40 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:40 |
| ScriptRipper | so to see if the injection works I use some small thingy like acl | 19:40 |
| ScriptRipper | to see if QEMU makes trouble with Mer in case it has newer packages than MeeGo 1.2 | 19:41 |
| javier | hmm, it seems kernel-adaptation isn't build with CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y | 19:41 |
| ScriptRipper | I usually use the QEMU trouble makers like glibc | 19:41 |
| ScriptRipper | aka "regression test cases" :) | 19:41 |
| ScriptRipper | Comm OBS uses XEN or KVM, just FYI ? | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | javier: that's odd | 19:42 |
| ScriptRipper | lbt ? | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: ^ | 19:42 |
| lbt | mm | 19:43 |
| lbt | ScriptRipper: uses xen | 19:43 |
| javier | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=config-adaptation-pc&package=kernel-adaptation-pc&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic&srcmd5=b6c003e5da02a8b148a8bbbe5a48aaa5 | 19:43 |
| ScriptRipper | lbt: tnx | 19:43 |
| javier | Stskeeps: I don't see CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the above url | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | javier: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=config-generic&package=kernel-adaptation-pc&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic&srcmd5=b6c003e5da02a8b148a8bbbe5a48aaa5 is what it combines with | 19:45 |
| javier | ah sorry, there it is :) | 19:46 |
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| javier | another question, it seems uxlaunch in mer doesn't like session=/usr/bin/something (ok in MeeGo) | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | javier: MeeGo 1.2 yes, not 1.3 | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | javier: hang on | 19:49 |
| javier | ah | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | javier: you need mic-image-creator from git first off | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | javier: second, http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20111112.2.CE.2011-11-17.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-testing/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-testing-0.20111112.2.CE.2011-11-17.1.ks - see the missing session line | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | and cat > /usr/share/xsessions/X-MEEGO-HS.desktop << EOF | 19:49 |
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| Stskeeps | and ln -sf X-MEEGO-HS.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/default.desktop | 19:50 |
| javier | thanks a lot! | 19:51 |
| javier | interesting changes | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | it means that we can run multiple session types.. | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | ie, switch | 19:52 |
| javier | is there a specific reason for needing mic-image-creator from git? | 19:52 |
| javier | we are also building meego 1.2 based images | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it causes a bug otherwise in systemd based images | 19:52 |
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| Stskeeps | you can still build old ones, i think | 19:53 |
| javier | I don't want to break more than needed ;) | 19:53 |
| lbt | considering we have OBS there's no excuse for not packaging mic :) | 19:53 |
| javier | :) | 19:54 |
| * lbt goes hunting for the git repo... | 19:55 | |
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| javier | Stskeeps: do you have any idea why I'm getting "Failed to open /dev/kmsg: no such file or directory"? I'm using kernel-adaptation-pc Perhaps not the right one for the wetab? | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | javier: i'm a little surprised by that one, but does it say nohing else? | 19:59 |
| javier | it seems to be compiled with the needed options | 19:59 |
| javier | nothing else | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | so just stalls? | 19:59 |
| javier | it boots fine | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:00 |
| javier | but the installer doesn't work | 20:00 |
| javier | it seems to have trouble while creating the filesystem | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | ok, error = ? | 20:00 |
| javier | btrfs subvol create /tmp/sysimage/di/meego_root | 20:01 |
| javier | error: can't access to /tmp/sysimage/di | 20:01 |
| javier | mount -t btrfs -o relatime,compress,subvolrootid=0,subvol=meego_home /dev/sda2 /tmp/sysimage/di/home | 20:01 |
| javier | mount: /dev/sda2 is not a vlid block device | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | is it the non-gui installer, right | 20:02 |
| javier | installer-shell | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | is btrfs-progs installed? | 20:06 |
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| javier | yep | 20:10 |
| javier | I'm using mic not from git | 20:10 |
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| javier | MIC2 version: 0.24.14 | 20:14 |
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| arc_mat | vgrade: alright | 20:18 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: the SD card has the "classic" partition layout, two primary partitions, p1 as FAT, p2 as ext-something. I guess the images are ext3 or ext4 | 20:19 |
| vgrade | ok | 20:21 |
| vgrade | ok I have my vega image in the box | 20:25 |
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| vgrade | I would normally flash my boot.bin to the box now with my kernel,initrd and bootline | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | sounds fairly similar as to a pandaboard | 20:26 |
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| dm8tbr | it is, just packaged as a product ;p | 20:27 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, dm8tbr, evening | 20:29 |
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| Stskeeps | evening vgrade | 20:29 |
| vgrade | ok power plus down gives me recovery | 20:29 |
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| arc_mat | vgrade: not what you want | 20:34 |
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| vgrade | just playing | 20:37 |
| vgrade | sorry | 20:37 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: np ;9 | 20:37 |
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| vgrade | whats the procedure for loading a custom kernel pointing to the microsd? | 20:39 |
| vgrade | do I need the serial connection? | 20:40 |
| RaYmAn | vgrade: you have a raspberrypi btw? | 20:40 |
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| vgrade | yes | 20:40 |
| RaYmAn | vgrade: how is it? as nice as it seems? :) | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: as far as i can understand from what arc_mat says, you need to do similar things with this device as with a pandaboard, ie, uimage, u-boot, x-loader and that kind of jazz on p1 | 20:41 |
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| vgrade | very low RAM and GLES is a bit odd | 20:41 |
| arc_mat | ;) | 20:41 |
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| vgrade | ah, ok, thanks | 20:41 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: vgrade: zImage on p1 is actually enough | 20:42 |
| RaYmAn | vgrade: heh, but what can you really expect for 25$ ;) | 20:42 |
| vgrade | in /boot or root | 20:42 |
| arc_mat | root | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: oh, nice | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: seen beaglebone too? | 20:42 |
| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: yeah..but still at 89$ | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:43 |
| vgrade | arc_mat, so if it see's zImage it boots it no key combos | 20:43 |
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| arc_mat | vgrade: yes | 20:43 |
| vgrade | with kernel built in commandline | 20:43 |
| arc_mat | exactly | 20:43 |
| vgrade | what mmcblk is the sdcard? | 20:44 |
| vgrade | or can I get that from the git | 20:44 |
| arc_mat | mmcblk1, so your root=/dev/mmcblk1p2 | 20:44 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/archos-generation-9/ | 20:44 |
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| arc_mat | vgrade: try the latest image | 20:45 |
| mdavey | hey vgrade | 20:45 |
| vgrade | mdavey, hi | 20:46 |
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| vgrade | arc_mat, looks like you've been busy, whats left to do! | 20:47 |
| arc_mat | gles, power management, wifi, usb ... | 20:47 |
| mdavey | nice work with the qt creator | 20:47 |
| mdavey | Stskeeps: your parcel is on its way, btw | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | mdavey: oh cool :) | 20:48 |
| mdavey | Do you have any particular plans for it? | 20:48 |
| vgrade | mdavey, just built it for mer really, no probs. I'll upload an image soon | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | mdavey: yeah, i want to take a saner look at qt+gles in mer and do investigations into low-memory mer | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | so we can perhaps deliver it out of box with working gles with ease | 20:49 |
| vgrade | mdavey, we were wondering if there were any plans to ship a more standard gles lib | 20:50 |
| mdavey | that would be neat. Personally, I'd love to see xbmc running nicely on it | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | i'm actually wondering if we can make a wrapper EGL library that would wrap some of the erm, interesting gles parts | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | so it uses a traditional egl full screen interface | 20:51 |
| mdavey | vgrade, hastle eben and james - they are best placed to make that happen. | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | (would also make porting a -lot- easier..) | 20:51 |
| mdavey | ('cos its also in Broadcom's interest) | 20:51 |
| mdavey | yea | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 20:53 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: how do you think qt would react with 'you can only do gles if you're x11 fullscreen'? | 20:53 |
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| Stskeeps | checking for the correct version of gmp.h... yes | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | -finally- | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | mdavey: other things is hardfp armv6 and validation of our armv6 port in general | 20:57 |
| crevetor | llvmpipe built form armv7hl | 20:59 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: xrandr, do you have a package for that somewhere for armv7l? | 20:59 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: hmm.. | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: not handy, i thinjk | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: fairly easy to import the src rpm into obs and try to build though | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: cool | 21:01 |
| crevetor | Now I need to wait another hour before being able to test :( | 21:02 |
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| mdavey | Stskeeps: yea, I have high hopes for hardfp and I don't think the other distributions have done it yet so Mer could publish some impressive R.Pi benchmarks | 21:03 |
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| Stskeeps | let's see at least, as stated before it does have some downsides such as no thumb | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | i'll give it a try when my MIPS port is done building | 21:04 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: uh... | 21:05 |
| w00t | why do you ask | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: mm? | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: well, raspberry pi | 21:05 |
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| vgrade | arc_mat, nepomuk and virtuoso eating both cpu's | 21:22 |
| arc_mat | suckers | 21:22 |
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| ali1234 | MIPS port? | 21:26 |
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| Stskeeps | ali1234: sure | 21:36 |
| ali1234 | of mer? | 21:36 |
| ali1234 | what is it for? | 21:37 |
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| tripzero | it's so we can call something mipsmer | 21:38 |
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| tripzero | or mermips | 21:38 |
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| ali1234 | the only machine i have with MIPS is an AR7 board with 2MB flash/8MB ram | 21:40 |
| ali1234 | and i think my old playstation | 21:40 |
| ali1234 | i'm guessing it won't run too well on either of those | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: got an old meego port contributed and putting it to use, might be useful in some settings | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | bigger ram mips does exist | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | bbl sleep | 21:42 |
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| cxl000 | Sage as you can see from the wiki there is still a bit of work for the N810 adaptation but it is now capable of starting to X with keyboard and touchscreen working. Wifi can be enabled manually and packages can be zyppered in. | 22:52 |
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| cxl000 | Stskeeps I have been able to use calibration infomation and /sys/.../retu-rtc to determine current time on N810 maemo. Now just need to get the new kernel to expose retu-rtc values and I'll be anle to initial system time. | 23:03 |
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| _Thomas | http://www.fxitech.com/ | 23:34 |
| _Thomas | (now with content on the webpage :) | 23:34 |
| _av500_ | _Thomas: does a company with dream in the name ring a bell? | 23:35 |
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| _Thomas | _av500_: Dream in the name? | 23:35 |
| _av500_ | yes | 23:35 |
| _Thomas | Only company with dream in the name I know, I think, is Dreamworks | 23:36 |
| _Thomas | Which does something totally different ;) | 23:36 |
| _av500_ | i know | 23:36 |
| _av500_ | it was a long shot | 23:36 |
| _Thomas | Why should it ring a bell? In what context? | 23:37 |
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| lbt | _Thomas: interesting | 23:54 |
| _Thomas | We're hiring now :) | 23:55 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, cool | 23:56 |
| lbt | make me an offer :D | 23:56 |
| _Thomas | http://www.fxitech.com/company/career-opportunities/ | 23:56 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, any luck with the Mer rootfs | 23:57 |
| lbt | So are you looking at Mer for it too? | 23:57 |
| _Thomas | vgrade: We're working with the linux kernel still | 23:57 |
| _Thomas | vgrade: Upgraded to 3.2.0-rc1 a few days ago | 23:57 |
| _Thomas | vgrade: Still working on getting all the needed stuff working with that | 23:58 |
| _Thomas | vgrade: I guess Mer will work out of the box once we get the kernel fully functional | 23:58 |
| _Thomas | lbt: Android runs now, then we're going to get ubuntu and mer running | 23:58 |
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| _Thomas | But we're having a hard time finding any people for our current positions | 23:59 |
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