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| vgrade | morning | 07:13 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 07:13 |
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| toggles | buon giorno! | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | morn toggles | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | toggles: so when will we see Mer in trains? :> | 07:33 |
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| toggles | lol, not for a while | 07:39 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah.. the regulatory issues are insane aren't they | 07:39 |
| toggles | the environment inside mine is pretty sterile.. | 07:39 |
| toggles | well, the automatic protection stuff is no os, right on the board, and read and checked by TUV before it hits the rails | 07:40 |
| toggles | but we don't have anything inside but a couple of led bars for next station stop | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:40 |
| toggles | no entertainment systems :-( | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | we have a lot of digital signage stuff in metros here, with advertisements and such | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | runs windows xp :P | 07:41 |
| toggles | yeah, I see those around, our car builder isn't that advanced ;-) | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:42 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: http://review.merproject.org/128 | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | could you build xmlrpc-c together with your new curl? | 09:04 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ok. I'll put to my todo | 09:05 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | it might just be a fluke, since it worked fine on i586 | 09:05 |
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| slaine | hey folks | 10:18 |
| vgrade | slaine, hi | 10:21 |
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| Stskeeps | morn slaine | 10:22 |
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| dcthang | anyone knows build C++ on Mer? | 10:46 |
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| Stskeeps | dcthang: gcc :) | 10:48 |
| dcthang | yes, I mean the packages for that like Qt or ...:) | 10:49 |
| xruxa | dcthang: sure, there is qt-devel, enjoy | 10:50 |
| xruxa | Stskeeps: are we running Mer + whateverui on some tablet or netbook regularly? | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: well, n900/n950, but we aren't as far in QA as i'd like to be | 10:51 |
| xruxa | Stskeeps: those are phones/handsets. How about tablets? | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: exopc, perhaps | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | netbook, ideapad | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | (s10-3t) | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | how come? | 10:53 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: so, if we were to add a obs to this whole mix and a worker, would we make another vlan bridge? | 11:00 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I'd try that first as it's nice and scalable | 11:01 |
| lbt | I don't think bandwidth between obs/workers is a big issue | 11:02 |
| lbt | the vlan bridge is a hub/spoke though | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | because i can already see my temporary setup for getting to my virtual obs is crap, so thinking ahead :P | 11:02 |
| lbt | :) | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | i just need the OBS to finish building so i have cpu time (and mental time) for moving around more things | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | how easily can we migrate VM's between phosts atm? | 11:03 |
| dm8tbr | I had someone use remote workers over VPN | 11:03 |
| dm8tbr | and it was not outstanding, but OKish | 11:04 |
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| lbt | dm8tbr: the VPN is over the LAN at the datacenter | 11:05 |
| lbt | well, actually, I'm assuming we got the same datacenter | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't matter too much, we're in a fiber ring anyway | 11:05 |
| lbt | true | 11:05 |
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| av500 | arc_mat: mdfe_: 3.2.69 now | 11:07 |
| arc_mat | av500: thanks. | 11:08 |
| av500 | de rien | 11:09 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: I mean build tools for Mer 1.3 :) | 11:09 |
| dcthang | where I can get it? | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: so, we don't really have an SDK atm and people who make apps utilize OBS right now | 11:10 |
| dcthang | ok, so I can check it from OBS, rite? | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | right | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | and mer 1.3 doesn't exist ;) | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: take a look around on https://build.pub.meego.com | 11:11 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: thanks :) | 11:13 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: I think we should make a package list of Mer and mark which packages have been updated to the latest upstream. We should do at least one update round as many of the packages are very old. | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | i started a list, hang on .. | 11:26 |
| Sage | Just to make sure that we don't get stuck with old API's and prevent new stuff | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:27 |
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| Stskeeps | can't find my list | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, i fully agree | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | you will be surprised how much fallout there is in upstreams from the whole kernelorg move | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | and how much of what is essential to linux that just doesn't have online presenses :P | 11:34 |
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| lbt | Sage: that stuff is why we need a decent package database | 11:36 |
| Sage | lbt: :nod: | 11:38 |
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| Sage | something that would check the upstream version and notify that it has changed | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | surprisingily hard | 11:39 |
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| * lbt notes that debian has something | 11:42 | |
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| Sage | well, for packages that have ftp for latest releases that should be quite easy, just parse the largest version out of the directory listing. But all the projects do not have such page. | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: true, we could always track debian's version ;) | 11:45 |
| lbt | :) | 11:45 |
| lbt | I actually meant they have something that tracks the real upstream | 11:46 |
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| vgrade | http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Receiving_notification_of_new_upstream_software_releases/print | 11:49 |
| lbt | that's it vgrade | 11:49 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: what's the license situation with agile browser BTW? | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: no idea, haven't ever seen source code | 11:58 |
| lbt | no, I looked for it ages ago | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | could always ask ville if it is public or not | 11:58 |
| lbt | the 'license' notes in 'about' mention that it uses some proprietary lib | 11:59 |
| lbt | the classes are obfuscated | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:59 |
| lbt | and there's no license for it at all - so nothing about redistribution | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | well, it's a nice tool despite license :P | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | and they uploaded it to wiki.meego.com | 11:59 |
| lbt | *nod* .... was looking at it last night | 11:59 |
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| Stskeeps | finally | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | my obs is building again | 12:40 |
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| arc_mat | vgrade: ping | 13:31 |
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| vgrade | arc_mat, hi | 15:40 |
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| arc_mat | vgrade: your new toy is on its way | 15:41 |
| vgrade | arc_mat, cheers | 15:41 |
| vgrade | arc_mat, whats the current status | 15:42 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: I'm fighting pvr, drm and Xorg | 15:42 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_ is fighting touch screen | 15:42 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: you're welcome to help ;) | 15:43 |
| vgrade | wilco | 15:43 |
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| Stskeeps | arc_mat: any movement in the pvr troubles? | 16:06 |
| av500 | not yet :( | 16:06 |
| dm8tbr | sgx, a harsh mistress... | 16:07 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: not much. I'm still debugging (and recruiting more minions ;) | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:07 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: but the dayjob gets in the way a bit ... | 16:07 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: how is mer/project-core tree used? | 17:08 |
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| Sage | We need to cut the scripts directory separate package and wondering how it will effect to that | 17:09 |
| Sage | so that vendors could use the same script to do package groups. | 17:10 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: 'make' usually | 17:18 |
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| berndhs | in c.obs Mer builds the rpm macro %{_vendor} says "meego", which is convenient for the moment; is it the right thing though ? | 18:09 |
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| Stskeeps | not really but i want to have testing working properly before i dive in to possible break things | 18:10 |
| berndhs | it would probably break a lot of builds right now | 18:10 |
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| Stskeeps | NOTE: i'm currently postponing review.merproject.org build tests for any new patchset as we'll be setting up a new BOSS vm, the patchsets will be run through when this is done and is queued | 19:44 |
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| marquiz_ | evening | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | evening marquiz_ | 20:26 |
| marquiz_ | any idea where i could get those moslo kernel sources? | 20:26 |
| marquiz_ | if i get those, i think i can make a nice dual-boot | 20:27 |
| marquiz_ | ;) | 20:27 |
| marquiz_ | for n950, that is | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | hm, i'll take a look | 20:27 |
| marquiz_ | i've been doing some experimentation, but kexec fails :( | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | seems like there's some kexec patches, give me a minute or tow | 20:29 |
| marquiz_ | k | 20:29 |
| marquiz_ | i'm not in that much hurry, got to go to sleep, soon ;) | 20:29 |
| marquiz_ | i'm sooo tired | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | second one, http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2010-September/025226.html | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel/75711 , patch 1/2 there | 20:33 |
| marquiz_ | where did you dig those up? | 20:34 |
| marquiz_ | :D | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | 20:34 | |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 20:34 |
| marquiz_ | i'll try those, thx | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | mika's the guy to ask at least | 20:36 |
| marquiz_ | haven't got anything to share, yet :( | 20:36 |
| dm8tbr | also moslo sources are public, including kernel, aren't they? | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: i haven't seen kernel around, which is a bit odd | 20:36 |
| marquiz_ | well, kernel is not included, there :( | 20:36 |
| marquiz_ | yep, it is odd | 20:36 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: hmm I can poke panix | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: yeah, just see if it's an oversight, looks pretty stock to me | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | marquiz_: someone did dual-boot with flasher on N9 at least, http://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/ | 20:37 |
| Stskeeps | but that requires a PC | 20:37 |
| marquiz_ | btw, i'm not able to do local armv8el builds in meego obs, anymore, is this a common issue? | 20:37 |
| Stskeeps | what error are you getting? | 20:37 |
| Stskeeps | i haven't used build.meego.com for building anything in ages :P | 20:37 |
| Stskeeps | marquiz_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQLIjcYAMU - how our dear CE/Nemo looks like these days :) | 20:38 |
| marquiz_ | hmm, now the build magically started to work :/ | 20:41 |
| marquiz_ | two hours back it failed to not finding some packages in download.meego.com | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | odd | 20:42 |
| marquiz_ | yep, but now it seems to work, which is nice :) | 20:42 |
| marquiz_ | woo, the video was nice! | 20:44 |
| marquiz_ | i have downloaded the latest images but haven't been able to (dual)boot yet ;) | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:44 |
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| Stskeeps | right, sleep time | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | bbl | 20:50 |
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| marquiz_ | c ya | 20:51 |
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| marquiz_ | sleeptime for me, too | 21:02 |
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