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| slonopotamus | mooooo | 05:16 |
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| slonopotamus | Stskeeps: reasking about retu-rtc & year :P | 05:20 |
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| cxl000 | morning | 05:31 |
| slonopotamus | so, i officially claim that http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg26317.html totally broke clock handling on n8x0 | 05:35 |
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| cxl000 | From what I have read the clock has 1 byte for day and when it get to 255 is sticks. so you need to reset it from time to time | 05:37 |
| cxl000 | but that was for 770 retu | 05:38 |
| slonopotamus | i saw that too, don't know if it is true on n8x0 | 05:41 |
| cxl000 | Have you looked at the maemo kernel code? | 05:42 |
| slonopotamus | in that link, older version is maemo | 05:43 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 06:17 |
| * dm8tbr hands out espresso doppio | 06:19 | |
| Stskeeps | matrixx: quite nice | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | matrixx: a good way to check if touch and opengl is working | 06:21 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?blocked=0&building=0&dispatching=0&finished=0&project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AUpdates&scheduled=0&signing=0&succeeded=0 | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | that's a localdep failure? | 06:44 |
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| Stskeeps | glibc failure is the one that looks mysterious, xmlrpc-c looks curl related | 06:45 |
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| Stskeeps | could you re-trigger glibc? | 06:47 |
| Sage | for some reason I can't :D | 06:48 |
| Sage | it is a linked build and I can't trigger taht :/ | 06:48 |
| Sage | not sure why | 06:48 |
| Stskeeps | ah, @%@^'ing obs.. | 06:48 |
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| Stskeeps | let me know btw if my fix for the zypper stuff worked on the latest release | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: crazy crap i find laying about in spec files at times.. | 06:51 |
| Sage | ? | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: http://review.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/db4.git;a=blob;f=db4.spec;h=1e4c0f81e3e7e003c9f867d82bdfb18cd5e3f918;hb=78652620de293d4adfa42eea993a7162e982bbb8#l138 and then look further down, http://review.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/db4.git;a=blob;f=db4.spec;h=1e4c0f81e3e7e003c9f867d82bdfb18cd5e3f918;hb=78652620de293d4adfa42eea993a7162e982bbb8#l276 | 06:52 |
| * Sage is doing a fix for poppler package bwt | 06:52 | |
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| Stskeeps | it spends ages fixing documentation it just deletes further down | 06:52 |
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| Sage | eh :D | 06:53 |
| w00t | Sage: did you hear the good news from the weekend? | 06:53 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: i'm no longer surprised why the initial bootstrap of things takes so bloody long | 06:54 |
| Sage | w00t: probably not :) | 06:54 |
| w00t | Sage: remember the GL context dropping stuff? | 06:54 |
| Sage | in meego-ux? | 06:54 |
| w00t | well.. not quite, a proper solution was put into Qt, but it wasn't quite ready when meego-ux needed it | 06:55 |
| w00t | so, harmattan has been using it for quite some time, but us not, since I was having trouble imagining how to make it work with devices that don't need it (and might blow up with it enabled).. I think I figured that out this weekend, and did some proof of concept work, fixed a bug that stopped it working, and have it working on my n950 now :) | 06:56 |
| Sage | nice, so I'm guessing that quite a bit more mem for everyone? :) | 06:57 |
| w00t | ~10mb less per app running in the background | 06:57 |
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| w00t | (we might be able to save some more on the UX apps like mdecorator, but i'd be more careful about that and need to investigate first) | 06:57 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: that kind of build docs and then remove it is very common :/ | 06:58 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i also found out our build chroots fsync for every single rpm transaction, meaning it's bloody slow on build disks :P | 06:59 |
| vgrade | morning | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | opensuse just generally disables it | 07:00 |
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| w00t | Sage: http://qtl.me/xEr.txt | 07:02 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, re QtMessaging, qt-mobility needs qmf as a build dep | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: ok, can you see how much deps QMF needs? | 07:05 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, qmf builds ok against Mer:fake:Core:armv7hl with no extra deps | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | can you see if qtmessaging works OK with it enabled then? | 07:09 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/126 | 07:09 |
| vgrade | http://qt-mobility.blogspot.com/2010/01/qt-mobility-messaging-api-on-linux.html | 07:09 |
| iekku | morning | 07:09 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: how big is the whole mer git tree? | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: it's many git trees | 07:10 |
| Sage | hmmp... can I somehow search inside files from all of them? | 07:11 |
| Sage | search in gitweb searches only filesnames | 07:11 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, testing will be much later today, ok | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: OK | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: monster:/home/merreleases/public_html # du -s -h packages-git | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | 1.3G packages-git | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: rsyncable, too | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | morn iekku o/ | 07:12 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: could you do grep -ni gtk */*.spec in there and pastebin the result? | 07:12 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: why is poppler in mer core btw? You could not install the -devel package because it had dep to gtk so nothing needs it to build? | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: qt printing | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: .. i would have thought | 07:15 |
| Sage | :) | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | now i'm curious | 07:15 |
| Sage | Maybe a stray dep? | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | i already have scons considered to be kicked out at least | 07:17 |
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| Stskeeps | carsten@ideapad:~/Core:i586/poppler$ osc whatdependson Core_i586 i586 | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | warning: your urllib2 version seems to be broken. Using a workaround for http://bugs.python.org/issue9639 | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | WARNING: SSL certificate checks disabled. Connection is insecure! | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | poppler : cups qt | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | so there's a reason it's there | 07:18 |
| Sage | hmmp | 07:19 |
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| Sage | If the dependency is to poppler there is no reson as that is only libs and nobody builds against it. If the dependency is to poppler-utils then there is a reason | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | BuildRequires: poppler-utils | 07:22 |
| Stskeeps | in cups | 07:22 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: http://pastie.org/2860418 | 07:23 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: do we have any fallout in repos from 4.8.0 rc1 -> beta1 upgrade? | 07:27 |
| Stskeeps | err | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | beta1 -> rc1 | 07:28 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: nothing so far | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:31 |
| * Stskeeps ponders idly what takes so bloody long in rpmlint | 07:34 | |
| Sage | Stskeeps: did you copypaste the things twice to that pastebin? :P | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | probably | 07:35 |
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| Stskeeps | it's monday after all | 07:35 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: http://www.merproject.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=mer-core/gcc.git;a=blob;f=gcc.spec;h=a8bf58075f74aebbebec352a5929162f39045c7b;hb=HEAD#l493 ? | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | we don't have build_java on | 07:36 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: that isn't inside the build_jave | 07:36 |
| Sage | %endif is at line 489 | 07:37 |
| Sage | or did I miss something | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | ah, libgcj.. | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | is that package getting made? | 07:38 |
| Sage | I couldn't find at least | 07:39 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | then treat it as a false positive i guess | 07:39 |
| Sage | http://www.merproject.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=mer-core/openssh.git;a=blob;f=openssh.spec;h=6a9f6ae6352844212e80eaffa53502dadc0ca10e;hb=HEAD#l16 :P | 07:39 |
| Sage | probably similar case :) | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | 7 # Do we want to disable building of gnome-askpass? (1=yes 0=no) | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | 8 %define no_gnome_askpass 1 | 07:40 |
| Sage | just found that as well | 07:41 |
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| * Sage messed the poppler commit | 07:44 | |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: how to reject that request? | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution#Responding_to_reviews | 07:45 |
| Sage | ok | 07:46 |
| Sage | hah... destroyed my clone :P | 07:47 |
| Sage | wrong dir :P | 07:47 |
| * Sage checks calendar .. | 07:47 | |
| Stskeeps | think you can check it out again with git fetch ssh://stskeeps@review.merproject.org:29418/mer-core/poppler refs/changes/26/126/1 && git checkout FETCH_HEAD | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | well, not stskeeps@ | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | but i'm not sure | 07:48 |
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| Sage | http://pastie.org/2860492 | 07:50 |
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| Stskeeps | uhh | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | clone the repo and do it in there then | 07:51 |
| Sage | ok, that seems to work | 07:52 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/2860501 | 07:54 |
| Sage | ah | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | .. | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | MONDAY | 07:54 |
| Sage | CHANGEID is the 126? | 07:54 |
| Sage | or should that be text like that? :) | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | no, Change-Id: I39a48a72c8e43feab089e9f8bda71d769c7be378 | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | http://review.merproject.org/126 see top headers | 07:55 |
| Sage | ah | 07:55 |
| Sage | ok, need to edit that wiki page a bit :) | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:55 |
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| Sage | ah, or well. I need to read :) | 07:57 |
| * Stskeeps can't wait to add the 24gb ram obs worker | 07:57 | |
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| Sage | o_0 | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 08:00 |
| Sage | patchset1 and patchet2 are the same on my screen | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | the hash is different, at least | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | what did you change? | 08:00 |
| Sage | grr | 08:01 |
| Sage | hmmp... commit --amend didn't pick up the changes. I need to commit those first? | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | git add'ed them? | 08:02 |
| Sage | no modifications to existing files | 08:02 |
| Sage | no, ... :) | 08:02 |
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| Termana | morning | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | morn termana | 08:04 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: can I just commit rebase and do it like that? | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | well, if things are screwed up beyond belief you can just click "abandon change" | 08:04 |
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| Stskeeps | and do a new attempt | 08:04 |
| * Sage tries to fix old one :) | 08:04 | |
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| dyoung | root | 08:06 |
| dyoung | sorry, typo | 08:06 |
| Sage | damn that is hard to read :/ | 08:07 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: there isn't merge all patch sets button? | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 08:07 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: try to read the gerrit page now :D | 08:10 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: you really can't see it clearly what has finally changed | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | good point | 08:10 |
| Sage | patch sets are incremental | 08:10 |
| * Stskeeps adds to todo | 08:10 | |
| Stskeeps | i also need to do a thing so it aborts testing for old patchset | 08:12 |
| Sage | hmm... | 08:13 |
| Sage | now the patch set seem to be ok | 08:13 |
| Sage | I just messed up locally very badly :P | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | it's monday, you're forgiven | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:13 |
| Sage | ok finally I'm happy with the change :) | 08:14 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: when submit is done to gerrit does it do build test so that it checks that no other package failes either? | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it does | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | it catches some quite nice things | 08:16 |
| Sage | ok then I'll submit changes there and let it check, prj link doesn't seem to work very nicely | 08:17 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: btw, would be nice if there would be ignore *~ in all projects | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | gitignore? | 08:19 |
| Sage | yes | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | mm, true | 08:20 |
| * Stskeeps adds | 08:20 | |
| matrixx | Stskeeps: thanks, next iteration will contain some qml and fishes :] | 08:20 |
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| Stskeeps | morn bergie, mordae | 08:26 |
| Mordae | Morning. | 08:27 |
| bergie | hi | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | bergie: so devrooms, how do they function? people propose talks? | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | or is also hacking sessions etc | 08:29 |
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| bergie | Stskeeps: I think we can decide | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:40 |
| * Stskeeps wonders if his talk will be accepted too | 08:40 | |
| dm8tbr | I think some talks would be good, to attract people | 08:41 |
| dm8tbr | 'introduction to mer / why mer' | 08:42 |
| dm8tbr | 'devices running mer' | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:42 |
| dm8tbr | 'how to make a hw-adaptation' | 08:42 |
| dm8tbr | 'where is the UI!?' | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | at least it could be a good gathering point for mer contributors | 08:43 |
| Bostik | please make a big point about "naked mer" | 08:43 |
| dm8tbr | we could offer to share some stuff with nemo and the PA people | 08:43 |
| Bostik | something to the tune of "what would a device look like if it ran mer core and nothing else" | 08:43 |
| * w00t may finally have to come to fosdem, eh | 08:44 | |
| * matrixx thinks the same | 08:44 | |
| dm8tbr | first slide on every talk: Mer is not a full stack, you add the Ux! | 08:44 |
| dm8tbr | (and hw adaptation) | 08:44 |
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| vgrade | has booked eurostar ticket already | 08:47 |
| bergie | dm8tbr: I'd like to have different UXs shown, including Plasma Active and Cordia | 08:51 |
| bergie | we also probably should have some volunteers for keeping the room organized | 08:52 |
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| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 09:01 |
| lbt | morning | 09:01 |
| lbt | we have bridged bridges - which is really useful for mgmt LAN | 09:02 |
| lbt | also quite useful at home for mer-signed-cert-controlled access | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i'm interrupting the previous changeset DBC's | 09:03 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: just to preserve some capaciity | 09:03 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: ok | 09:04 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: so if you want me to setup the new box... yell | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: haven't gotten login details yet i think | 09:04 |
| * Stskeeps checks | 09:04 | |
| Stskeeps | nop, not yet | 09:05 |
| lbt | mmm I should be able to set one up on mine | 09:06 |
| lbt | I'm wondering if tmpfs is really needed when sync is removed | 09:07 |
| dm8tbr | bergie: yup | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: think it matters still to some degree, worth seeing | 09:08 |
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| Zammy | hello | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | 'lo | 09:47 |
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| Zammy | they told me to come here | 09:47 |
| Zammy | Mer is the community name of MeeGo? | 09:48 |
| Zammy | what is its status | 09:48 |
| Zammy | ? | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | well, Mer is just a core, what did you hope to get from MeeGo? | 09:48 |
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| Zammy | Alternative to Android and iOS | 09:48 |
| Zammy | Something that is good and open-source so I can fix something if I do not like | 09:48 |
| lbt | sounds about right | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | alright, so, Mer is a mobile core - people take it, put own UI and hardware adaptation on top to make a product | 09:49 |
| Zammy | Android is open-source but I have not been able to jailbreak my device | 09:49 |
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| Zammy | and not happy with it at all... still using iOS devices mostly | 09:49 |
| Zammy | So its bit more than a kernel? | 09:49 |
| Zammy | or is it just a kernel? | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | some examples can be Nemo Mobile, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCCxjO0CXjw[C | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | Zammy: it's a set of reusable software component which gives a solid base for building mobile products | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | mobile as in, handset, tablets, set top boxes, interactive busstops, etc | 09:51 |
| Zammy | it sounds like there is already someone behind the project, not only community of hobists | 09:51 |
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| Stskeeps | there's a bit of both, we work like a proper open source community while i think there's people investigating using it in actual products | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | we're a young project, we announced like a month ago | 09:52 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm personally doing it as i see business opportunities in not having to maintain my own mobile core for eventual projects :) | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | ie, sharing the load between many companies, even small to medium | 09:53 |
| Bostik | if you've used debian or ubuntu for development, you could think of Mer as an analog of what you'd get if you do "aptitude install build-essential" on a bare system; it won't do much by itself but it pulls in lot of the stuff you need to build a bigger system | 09:53 |
| Zammy | so this leads to my next question: are there any front ends at works? | 09:53 |
| Bostik | not accurate in by any means but a good lie to keep things in perspective :) | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | Zammy: sure, did you see the UI above? | 09:54 |
| Zammy | Nemo seems like one | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | in the video | 09:54 |
| Zammy | looks pretty good, bit sluggish on old device like the n900 | 09:54 |
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| Stskeeps | i think it looks very fast compared to it being old :P | 09:54 |
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| Stskeeps | Zammy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xFbWDXTqLk as well - that's Plasma Active | 09:55 |
| Zammy | yeah agree | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | Zammy: the important thing here is that there's no "the" mer ui, ie, you won't see a Mer Handset user interface | 09:56 |
| Zammy | i understood | 09:56 |
| Zammy | I am bit concerned though... this means a lot of front ends | 09:56 |
| Zammy | a lot of fragmentation... | 09:56 |
| Zammy | but I guess that what opens brings to the table | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | it is, but i hope also that people see the benefit of common standards such as a stable set of QML or HTML5 Aapis | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | apis | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | Mer isn't a brand as such, just a piece of the puzzle to make everybody's life easier :) | 09:58 |
| Zammy | well... so it seems the MeeGo is not going to survive | 09:59 |
| Zammy | but we are going to see its core live... | 09:59 |
| Zammy | is that assumption correct? | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | pretty much, Mer is derived from MeeGo Core, with some changes in how it's delivered, developed and with focus on a minimal core | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | by moving out hardware adaptations and UIs you remove a lot of politics that allow people to work together better | 10:01 |
| Zammy | does it mean that if I can root my excellent LG device with shitty software | 10:01 |
| Zammy | i will be able to slap Mer on top | 10:01 |
| Zammy | and ssh to it :) | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | if you deliver the hardware adaptation | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | which has it's own set of challenges | 10:01 |
| Zammy | I am very far from being a real device tinker | 10:01 |
| Zammy | I am good with doing stuff with higher API-s | 10:02 |
| Zammy | But I would love to help with some of this stuff if I can | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | well, you can look around at the various projects going on at least | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | just gave you the sales pitch | 10:02 |
| Zammy | I am working as software developer and doing mostly mobile R&D (think iOS/Android build servers,) | 10:02 |
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| Stskeeps | you can even run Mer on intel devices and virtual machines | 10:03 |
| Zammy | so it works on x86? | 10:03 |
| Zammy | that is nice | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | even on non-atom devices | 10:03 |
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| Zammy | sounds cool... is there a website ? | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: did we have a video anywhere of nemo on PC? | 10:04 |
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| Zammy | so I can look around see what I can do about it | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | Zammy: www.merproject.org and the wiki.merproject.org is best place right now | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | we're doing a -lot- of backend work right now, so hopefully we'll revamp website soon | 10:04 |
| Zammy | ok cool... I think I might be more useful as an app developer for some future platform | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | many different projects that work on that, for example plasma active or Nemo | 10:06 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I don't think so. | 10:06 |
| Zammy | I will still read around and see what Mer is in detail | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | (the handset user interface) | 10:06 |
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| Zammy | Ok, does it mean that if I can get Mer to run on device X | 10:10 |
| Zammy | A OS that is build on top of Mer will run on my device ? | 10:10 |
| Zammy | X Device... sorry :) | 10:11 |
| lbt | Zammy: yes, rebuilds permitting | 10:11 |
| lbt | it's not designed to be binary compatibile | 10:11 |
| Zammy | yeah understand... | 10:16 |
| lbt | also there are parts of retail devices that are not well supported in OSS | 10:18 |
| lbt | so hacking an existing device without support from the hardware mfg is likely to be frustrating | 10:19 |
| Zammy | i guess so | 10:19 |
| Zammy | I guess Ill need to get an N9 | 10:20 |
| lbt | that's a good place to start :) | 10:20 |
| Zammy | Shame that most android hardware is pretty good but crappy software ruins everything | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | or a after-market n900 | 10:20 |
| Zammy | i am sooo frustrated with my device | 10:20 |
| pabs3 | which one do you have? | 10:21 |
| Zammy | LG optimus | 10:21 |
| Zammy | perfect hardware, it simply pretty | 10:21 |
| Zammy | but after more than 30 hard crashes | 10:21 |
| Zammy | I feel like buying an iPhone any moment now (I have iPod and iPad) | 10:21 |
| Zammy | Ok... sorry for venting frustration. | 10:21 |
| lbt | :D | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | the grass isn't always greener on the other side :) | 10:22 |
| Zammy | Thank you all for the great and personal info you gave me. Ill keep an eye on wants going on | 10:22 |
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| Zammy | :) If it was will I be here? | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | no problem, feel free to hang out here | 10:22 |
| Zammy | whats* | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: are you seeing any fallout after we upgraded qt to 4.8.0-rc1 in mer? | 10:23 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: I have to take a look | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:24 |
| mdfe_ | I have to disable qt inside Project:KDE:Mer_Extras | 10:25 |
| mdfe_ | libqtcore4-4.8.0~rc1-11.1.Mer | 10:26 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: libqtcore4-4.8.0~rc1-11.1.Mer is taken be e.g. kdelibs at the moment | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:27 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: It is build by Project:KDE:Mer_Extras, but I will disable the qt inside | 10:28 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: Does a wipeout for single binaries work? | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | well | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | for single packages | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | and for single archs | 10:29 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: Ok I will do it for Qt | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 10:31 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: done | 10:36 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: Do you see other dublicated packages? | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 10:37 |
| mdfe_ | ok, rebuild is in progress | 10:38 |
| mdfe_ | thanks | 10:38 |
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| Stskeeps | morn cxl000 | 10:43 |
| cxl000 | hello. Back from an evening of dancing. | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, always good | 10:44 |
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| Sage | mdfe_: I'll try to setup the CE:MW:PlasmaActive so you could move to use that one and get rid of the extra playload. | 10:47 |
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| Sage | phaeron: I would need couple of new prj's under boss btw. CE:MW:MTF and CE:MW:PlasmaActive | 10:49 |
| phaeron | Sage: sure, did you create them already ? and is bossbot a maintainer there ? | 10:50 |
| * Sage adds the maintainer | 10:50 | |
| Sage | phaeron: yes | 10:51 |
| Sage | done | 10:51 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: awesome, how should the repostitory layout look like? | 10:51 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: just replace e.g. Mer:fake:Core:armv6l/Core_armv6l --> CE:MW:PlasmaActive:armv6l/Core_armv6l ? | 10:52 |
| mdfe_ | for Project:KDE:Mer_Extras | 10:53 |
| Sage | mdfe_: actually. Lets make it straight to CE:UX:PlasmaActive | 10:53 |
| Sage | so | 10:53 |
| Sage | CE:UX:PlasmaActive/CE_MW_PlasmaActive_{arch} | 10:54 |
| mdfe_ | i have to take a look | 10:54 |
| Sage | project/repo | 10:54 |
| mdfe_ | ahh ok | 10:54 |
| Sage | phaeron: also CE:UX:PlasmaActive would need BOSS | 10:55 |
| Sage | mdfe_: those repos do not have content yet, but I'll try to push those in today. | 10:55 |
| mdfe_ | just drop me a line | 10:55 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: By changing the repostory I will also all dublicated packages in Project:KDE:Mer_Extras | 10:57 |
| mdfe_ | disable | 10:57 |
| Sage | mdfe_: yes, no duplicate packages after taht anymore | 10:58 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: Could you send me a list of packages which should be disabled in Project:KDE:Mer_Extras before? | 10:59 |
| Sage | mdfe_: http://pastie.org/2861028 | 10:59 |
| Sage | mdfe_: you should not use Project:KDE:Mer_Extras after this | 10:59 |
| lbt | Sage: you have a workaround - I'm going to look at migrating the bugzilla VMs to the new phost | 11:00 |
| Sage | lbt: yes, not sure though, how boss will handle repos without path | 11:00 |
| lbt | phaeron will manage :D | 11:01 |
| Sage | phaeron: :) | 11:01 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: Project:KDE:Mer_Extras can be completly omitted? | 11:01 |
| Sage | mdfe_: yes. | 11:02 |
| mdfe_ | awesome :) | 11:02 |
| Sage | so instead of that 176 packages we will have ~30 | 11:03 |
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| mdfe_ | Sage: sounds greate, hopefully it works ;) | 11:03 |
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| Sage | will take me day or two to get all the packages there so it starts to build, but after that it should jsut work :) | 11:04 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 11:04 |
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| phaeron | hmm | 11:09 |
| phaeron | Sage: why don't they have paths ? | 11:09 |
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| Sage | phaeron: because OBS is not nice :) | 11:14 |
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| phaeron | some of the prechecks won't work that way | 11:16 |
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| Sage | phaeron: we need to ignore repos that do not have path's | 11:17 |
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| phaeron | ok ignore makes sense | 11:19 |
| phaeron | Sage: but what about the requirement of having the one to one constrain of repos | 11:20 |
| Sage | phaeron: ? | 11:20 |
| phaeron | source project should have a repo that builds only against a matching repo in the target project | 11:21 |
| Sage | phaeron: well if the path is empty it is logical to ignore that as it doesn't build against that anyway IMHO | 11:21 |
| Sage | phaeron: and the reason for empty paths is because I can't remove those old targets after rename http://pastie.org/2861125 | 11:26 |
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| smoku | morn | 11:33 |
| phaeron | Sage: ok that should work | 11:38 |
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| Sage | phaeron: well it doesn't and it is causing a lot of problems to me :/ | 11:40 |
| Sage | phaeron: as a workaround I have those empty repos there | 11:40 |
| phaeron | Sage: I meant the process should work | 11:40 |
| phaeron | :) | 11:40 |
| Sage | which one? :D | 11:41 |
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| phaeron | Sage: ok all three project have the process setup now | 11:48 |
| Sage | phaeron: are all CE: subproject now under BOSS btw? | 11:48 |
| phaeron | Sage: ping me if anything is looks broken | 11:48 |
| Sage | phaeron: would be nice to have boss feature that it would automatically start using boss for subproject of project X ;) | 11:49 |
| Sage | except *:Trial | 11:49 |
| phaeron | Sage: wildcards were actually a planned feature , but was never done. | 11:50 |
| phaeron | Sage: http://pastie.org/2861194 find -type d under CE | 11:50 |
| Sage | lbt: Unable to delete project home:sage:Mer:MW:Shared; following repositories depend on this project: | 11:53 |
| Sage | home:sage:Mer:UX:lipstick/Mer_i586 | 11:53 |
| Sage | lbt: unable to remove even my own project :P | 11:53 |
| Sage | phaeron: CE:Apps:MTF and CE:Adaptation:Pandaboard are missing | 11:54 |
| phaeron | Sage: do you want to enable them now ? | 11:55 |
| * lbt afk .... bbiab (~3hr) | 11:55 | |
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| Sage | phaeron: Apps:MTF now yes | 11:55 |
| Sage | pandaboard is not ready anyway yet | 11:56 |
| Sage | just realized that didn't have time to setup it yet last week | 11:56 |
| phaeron | Sage: ok enabled APPS:MTF | 11:58 |
| Sage | lbt: cobs is running low on workers | 11:58 |
| Sage | X-Fade: ^ | 11:59 |
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| X-Fade | Sage: ok, let me kick some. | 12:01 |
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| Sage | mdfe_: populating the CE:MW:PlasmaActive atm. so you should be able to use it in hour or so | 13:11 |
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| mdfe_ | Sage: ok | 13:16 |
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| Stskeeps | arc_mat|tp: it was g9 you were hacking for right? | 13:34 |
| arc_mat | yes | 13:34 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: please ignore my |tp self, network came up back at home ;) | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | does it by chance lend itself well to automatic image installation/testing somehow? | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | just thinking a bit further ahead, we plan to be big on QA here so | 13:36 |
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| av500 | Stskeeps: fully automatic probably not | 13:39 |
| av500 | if it crashes, human intervention might be needed | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | there's always stuff like powering on when usb plug activates for instance that helps a lot | 13:40 |
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| arc_mat | Stskeeps: it will definitely help if you crack the device open and put an switch in the battery lines | 13:44 |
| av500 | arc_mat: or on the power button | 13:44 |
| arc_mat | av500: though I'd prefer to cut the battery to be really sure. You know, the PMIC ... | 13:44 |
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| mdfe_ | Sage: Error saving package: unable to walk on path 'CE:UX:PlasmaActive/CE_MW_PlasmaActive_armv7hl' | 14:09 |
| * Sage checks | 14:09 | |
| Sage | ups, my bad | 14:10 |
| Sage | copy paster error | 14:10 |
| mdfe_ | Sage: I will try it for CE_MW_PlasmaActive_armv7hl first | 14:11 |
| Sage | mdfe_: should be fixed now | 14:12 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 14:12 |
| mdfe_ | looks good | 14:12 |
| mdfe_ | lets see what happens | 14:12 |
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| arc_mat | Stskeeps: ping | 18:07 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.com/EQuxK7Qf | 18:07 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: Xorg.0.log | 18:08 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 18:08 | |
| Stskeeps | give me a couple of seconds to context switch, was buried in sysadmin work :) | 18:08 |
| arc_mat | I identified a couple of suspicious things already | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | did you get an xterm up? | 18:09 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: no time yet, but since the plasma session is starting at least the X server seems to be working to a point. I guess if I tried Xterm, it would happily connect but I wouldn't see it | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | just wondering if X is running or not | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | systemctl disable uxlaunch.service and give it a reboot, then session won't disturb us | 18:10 |
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| arc_mat | not really. uxlaunch still active | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | shouldn't start, hmm | 18:12 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: look at line 871 for example | 18:12 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: or line 1345 (funny how the line numbers wrap) | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that indeed looks bad | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | i assume pvrsrvinit already ran | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | (i don't have a omap4 device) | 18:14 |
| arc_mat | good question | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | worth checking out | 18:15 |
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| arc_mat | I guess no since that program is not supplied by any package | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | ok, it may have changed in omap4 | 18:17 |
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| smoku | lbt: is COBS fine? | 18:54 |
| smoku | $ osc -A COBS ls home | 18:54 |
| smoku | Server returned an error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 18:54 |
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| lbt | smoku it's OK here ... ls home is 404 | 19:03 |
| lbt | osc -A COBS ls home:smoku ?? | 19:03 |
| smoku | lbt: http://api.pub.meego.com/ in browser is 404 | 19:04 |
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| crevetor | How do I import the key for the mer repo ? Zypper complains : /var/cache/zypp/packages/mer-core-i586/i586/binutils-2.21.51.0.8-1.1.i586.rpm: Entête V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 7d236225: NOKEY | 19:11 |
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| dm8tbr | smoku: try https | 19:14 |
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| smoku | dm8tbr: good find. worked :) | 19:17 |
| dm8tbr | smoku: I have to know that, I monitor plenty of OBSs ;) (including the tizen obs just for fun) | 19:17 |
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| smoku | dm8tbr: monitor like with Nagios etc? | 19:26 |
| dm8tbr | yes, icinga | 19:27 |
| dm8tbr | started doing this as meego core obs was constantly down | 19:27 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: is there a public key for mer for the RPM packages or should I disable it ? | 19:33 |
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| berndhs | oh I'm in trouble now, build.tize.org says I did something forbidden | 19:34 |
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| dm8tbr | naughty bernd ;) | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: next release doesn't have signed RPMs | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: actually most recent one, i think | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | we need a better setup so | 19:35 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: I tried doing zypper --no-gpg-checks install perl | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: what mer snapshot are you on | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 19:35 |
| crevetor | but that doesn't seem to do the trick | 19:35 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: latest | 19:35 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: hold on | 19:36 |
| crevetor | 0.20111104.1 | 19:36 |
| crevetor | so not latest | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | that one has the issue | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: workaround, wget http://monster.tspre.org:2082/Core%3a/armv7l/Core_armv7l/repodata/repomd.xml.key | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | rpm --import repomd.xml.key | 19:37 |
| crevetor | doesn't seem to work :( | 19:39 |
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| Stskeeps | do you use armv7hl or armv7l? | 19:58 |
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| youam | i'm not quite sure if mer's what i'm searching for, but: i've got an n800 which is currently running os2008. can i install some (older) version of mer to get something more uptodate / current? | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | nah, i wouldn't bother with old mer | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | look at what cxl000 is doing though | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbE4Ply5Cbs | 20:06 |
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| youam | Stskeeps: okay, i'll rephrase it to more accurate question :) - what's the best i could do with my n800? | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | youam: contribute to cxl000's work to gain a new future for it :) | 20:08 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: i got an email | 20:10 |
| vgrade | :) | 20:11 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, just checking peregrine as that was the program which had the QtMessaging dep | 20:14 |
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| vgrade | leinir, hi | 20:14 |
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| bigbluehat | Stskeeps: is there a place where cxl000 is tracking his stuff? | 20:27 |
| bigbluehat | youam: welcome to the n800 troll club :D | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | bigbluehat: here, maybe | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | cxl000: you could put up a wiki page on wiki.merproject.org if you like to incubate at | 20:28 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, page is up | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 20:30 |
| vgrade | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N8x0 | 20:30 |
| * bigbluehat the troll lumbers to wiki | 20:30 | |
| vgrade | and very good work | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | cxl000: btw, i'd give up on even trying with the pvr | 20:30 |
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| Stskeeps | i've had everything at my disposal and it just isn't possible with components existing :/ | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | 'lo Maneth, what brings you here? | 20:32 |
| vgrade | I likr the way the community wiki is growing, when things outgrow the main page they seem to branch off onto their own page | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: i'm pondering a bit to make wiki the homepage | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | to illustrate the organic growth of the project | 20:33 |
| vgrade | what abou the webpages which were in draft | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | i wasn't able to get a response from rosskendal and i'm pondering how we best can leverage the community to work and document things | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | because we're such a young project a lot of things can change and fairly quickly | 20:37 |
| vgrade | wiki seems to be working in getting things written down | 20:38 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 20:39 |
| Stskeeps | did you ever see the old mer wiki? | 20:39 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Mer&oldid=33676 | 20:40 |
| vgrade | yes I did, I remember looking at that for Joggler stuff 0.16 | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | true | 20:40 |
| vgrade | http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Status/O2_Joggler | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, good old times | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | we should get mer on joggler sometime | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:43 |
| vgrade | some nicks on there I recognise now from other more recent work , Hexxeh for instance has been working on Tegra stuff | 20:44 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, your right, for old times. I'll do that | 20:44 |
| vgrade | with the new splash | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | mer is still my procastination act to get a good kitchen tablet.. on my joggler | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:46 |
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| Stskeeps | wb | 21:50 |
| Stskeeps | who won, you or dbus? | 21:51 |
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| lbt | :) | 21:52 |
| lbt | I'd removed the kerberos libs | 21:52 |
| lbt | and it didn't like that | 21:52 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 21:52 |
| lbt | glad I found out what it was though | 21:53 |
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| lbt | 'night | 21:57 |
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| Cyb3r-D00m | hi | 22:02 |
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