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| merlin1991 | someone should update the merproject.org index page, the link to the wiki there still points to http://212.110.185.213/wiki/ instead of http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page | 00:45 |
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| dm8tbr | mrng | 05:17 |
| Jucato | moooo | 05:22 |
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| Stskeeps | zzz | 05:49 |
| iekku | coffee \o/ | 05:49 |
| slonopotamus | where's my dose? | 05:50 |
| * iekku whistles and move silently to nearest door | 05:53 | |
| iekku | moves... | 05:53 |
| Jucato | :) | 05:54 |
| Jucato | you need your dose too, it seems :) | 05:54 |
| iekku | and rolls 1d20 to see if she is suprised | 05:54 |
| Jucato | saving throw fail :) | 05:55 |
| iekku | 1 | 05:55 |
| iekku | :D | 05:55 |
| Jucato | the DC is 10 | 05:55 |
| iekku | :D | 05:56 |
| iekku | oh, it's been so long... but because i don't rope anymore i can always say i'm not nerd or geek | 05:57 |
| Jucato | anyway, so YAY Plasma Active/MeeGo runs well on my new tablet, which apparently has exactly the same specs as a ViewPad 10 (but it's not rebranded). now to wait/work for a Plasma Active/Mer port (same as for the ExoPC) | 05:57 |
| iekku | oh | 05:57 |
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| Jucato | yeah :) | 06:00 |
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| Sage_ | morning | 06:22 |
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| Stskeeps | morn Sage_ | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: anything that'd be good for me to work on this morning? | 06:23 |
| Jucato | (link to the wiki on the front page?) | 06:24 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: hmmp... Give me a moment to collect my thoughs :) | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: ok | 06:27 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: you have n950 available for testing atm.? | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | yes, well, RD certificate one readily available | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | probably best for debugging | 06:36 |
| * dm8tbr also has one available for testing | 06:40 | |
| Sage_ | I can do new images as soon as I get one systemui patch rebased and N950 image at least needs testing. | 06:41 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:42 |
| Jucato | is someone doing hardware adaptation for x86? specifically ExoPC/ViewPad 10 hardware? | 06:45 |
| Stskeeps | Jucato: we have sone x86 adaptation for generic x86 ongoing in CE/Nemo | 06:48 |
| Sage_ | ok, this last patch needs more testing. | 06:48 |
| * Stskeeps looks into the setuid issue | 06:49 | |
| Jucato | Stskeeps: really? that's a surprise. I've always presumed Nemo would be more of N900 (ARM) + Handset UX. though it would probably be weird to run the handset UX on the tablet :) | 06:50 |
| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_armv8el=1&defaults=0&project=Project%3ADE%3ATrunk%3ATesting%3A1.3&repo_CE_Apps_armv7hl=1&unresolvable=1 <- what should we do with these? | 06:50 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ^ | 06:50 |
| Sage_ | -> #nemomobile | 06:50 |
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| Jucato | Sage_: that's the channel for CE/Nemo? | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | Jucato: it's an effort | 06:57 |
| Jucato | ah I see | 06:58 |
| Jucato | though I'm kinda a bit hesitant to ask them about the hardware adaptation if I'm not going to use their UX (planning on Plasma Active) >.< | 06:59 |
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| Sage_ | Jucato: ? I'm also compiling plasma active on top of Nemo/Mer :) | 07:02 |
| Jucato | Sage_: ahaha! ok. I wasn't sure how to approach things/people. kinda new to the scene. so trying to be extra careful :) | 07:03 |
| Sage_ | Jucato: Don't be affraid to ask. We are quite open people and pro experiments :) | 07:05 |
| Sage_ | Jucato: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AUX%3APlasmaActive | 07:05 |
| Sage_ | Jucato: if you are interested I would need some help with PlasmaActive compile. | 07:05 |
| Jucato | thanks :) | 07:05 |
| Jucato | (how about open to beginners? :) | 07:05 |
| Sage_ | Jucato: open to everyone :) | 07:06 |
| Jucato | awesome! thanks :D | 07:06 |
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| Sage_ | Jucato: the problem I'm having is that for some reason something goes terrybly wrong when compiling kde-runtime package: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=kde-runtime&project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AUX%3APlasmaActive&repository=CE_MW_Shared_i586 | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: the mystery thickens with xorg-x11-server -- /usr/bin/Xorg isn't +s in %{buildroot} | 07:10 |
| Jucato | all nepomuk related? O.o | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: do we have -setuid installed normally? | 07:10 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: now we should have. Previously it was a roll of dice :) | 07:11 |
| Sage_ | Now sgx requires -setuid version so it should be always there | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not entirely sure if i should fix anything in xorg, except maybe conflicting non-setuid and setuid | 07:12 |
| Sage_ | you can't conflict non setuid in setuid as non setuid provides setuid and then it would conflict with itself :) | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | -what- | 07:13 |
| * Sage_ reads his line again | 07:13 | |
| Sage_ | yes, ^ :) | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | non setuid ddoesn't provide -setuid | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:13 |
| Sage_ | If packages has Provides: X and Conflicts: X then it will conflict with itself :) | 07:14 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ah, that might actually work. :) | 07:14 |
| Sage_ | But be sure you test both yum and zypp mic image builders with both before pushing that change :) | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | sigh | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:15 |
| Sage_ | because I'm a bit sceptic about that | 07:15 |
| Sage_ | It should be done to avoid these things. Currently at least yum takes both of those to image :P | 07:15 |
| Sage_ | so possibility for mess is there | 07:15 |
| * Sage_ submits phonon to CE:MW:Shared soon | 07:17 | |
| Bostik | *sigh* | 07:18 |
| Sage_ | Bostik: ? | 07:18 |
| odin_ | do you need set have "# rootforbuild" in *.spec ? for +s to work ? | 07:18 |
| Bostik | qt-anything... out-of-tree builds... https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64734 | 07:18 |
| Bostik | Sage_: sorry, just banging my head on desk here | 07:19 |
| Stskeeps | odin_: nah, it's a rpm trick | 07:19 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: qt-webkit 2.2? | 07:20 |
| Bostik | yuip | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | let me know when you have a package for that | 07:22 |
| Bostik | hopefully I have patches+spec for functional binaries today, getting everything enabled properly will take until next week for certain | 07:23 |
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| Sage_ | [ 7.004760] systemd[1]: Failed to open /dev/autofs: No such file or directory | 07:37 |
| Sage_ | so the autofs4 is needed I guess. | 07:37 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... I have CONFIG_AUTOFS4=y already. | 07:37 |
| Sage_ | do I need also # CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS is not set | 07:37 |
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| kimju | no, only one of those. | 07:40 |
| Sage_ | so what is that error then? | 07:41 |
| Sage_ | kimju: did you see my kernel packaging for panda btw? :) | 07:41 |
| kimju | Sage_, not yet, just noted that you've done it | 07:43 |
| Sage_ | kimju: from scratch without the normal kernel packaging mess ;) | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: http://review.merproject.org/#change,87 | 07:44 |
| kimju | Sage_, url? | 07:45 |
| * Sage_ looks | 07:45 | |
| Sage_ | kimju: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=kernel-adaptation-pandaboard&project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AAdaptation%3Apandaboard | 07:45 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: looks good | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: just single-build checks right now, but yeah | 07:48 |
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| kimju | Sage_, try removing the "# CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS is not set" line from .config | 07:55 |
| Sage_ | kimju: should I put it CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS=y ? | 07:56 |
| kimju | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=kernel-adaptation-pandaboard.config&package=kernel-adaptation-pandaboard&project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AAdaptation%3Apandaboard&srcmd5=952e7e7fe6943a4f43b1680b9e210f5b | 07:57 |
| kimju | lines 1920 & 1921, you currently have both. so it might turn autofs4 on and then back off in the next line. | 07:57 |
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| Sage_ | ah | 07:57 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: spot an error in http://review.merproject.org/#change,88 | 08:06 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: no, but pkgmgr might disagree :) | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: probably, but let's see how it reacts | 08:07 |
| Sage_ | ok | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | i forgot to edit yaml :) | 08:07 |
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| Sage_ | ah, I tought there wasn't yaml | 08:08 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... that gerrit should really show all fiels | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | you can click through to webkit | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | er, gitwe | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | b | 08:08 |
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| Sage_ | ah, complicated :P | 08:09 |
| Sage_ | \o/ xterm on panda screen with Mer | 08:10 |
| Sage_ | software driver though | 08:10 |
| Sage_ | also rj45 networking works :) | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 08:10 |
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| Ronksu | morning | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | morn Ronksu | 08:12 |
| Ronksu | how are things rolling here? =) | 08:12 |
| iekku | for some reason i read "trolling" | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | quite good, working on automated package validation | 08:12 |
| Ronksu | iekku: I'd expect trolling to be fairly low :) | 08:13 |
| kyb3R | :) | 08:13 |
| Ronksu | package validation as in verifying that package is properly constructed (deps and all), or some autotesting stuff? | 08:14 |
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| Stskeeps | Ronksu: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | so a fairly throughout testing of that a change to a package is valid and doesn't break shit | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | Ronksu: http://review.merproject.org/ -> All, Open | 08:16 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: please review http://review.merproject.org/#change,89 and add an comment on potential package manager screwup | 08:25 |
| Ronksu | looks nice | 08:26 |
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| Sage_ | ups | 08:36 |
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| Sage_ | kimju: thx, taht helped | 08:42 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I notice the changelog version is the same in November as in May .... | 08:57 |
| lbt | in http://review.merproject.org/#change,89 | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: not nearly enough coffee for that | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:58 |
| lbt | :) | 08:58 |
| lbt | Are we ready to enforce that rule yet? | 08:58 |
| lbt | I suspect not | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | no, and i'd like a review on it based on that we now do change-by-change sets :P | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | which adds another data point | 09:00 |
| * lbt goes for coffee first | 09:01 | |
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| lbt | Sage_: where it says : Conflicts : - "%{name}-Xorg-setuid" | 09:06 |
| lbt | won't %{name} expand to Xorg? | 09:06 |
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| Stskeeps | no | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | name == xorg-x11-server | 09:08 |
| lbt | OK ... but package Xorg-setuid ... Provides: xorg-x11-server-Xorg | 09:09 |
| lbt | goddam gerrit webui disables page search | 09:10 |
| w00t | what browser? works ok for me using chromium | 09:10 |
| lbt | firefox using "/" | 09:11 |
| lbt | ^F seems to work but I have to tell my fingers :( | 09:11 |
| w00t | ah, dunno about inline search, i guess that's a bit easier to intercept | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: ping | 09:18 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: pong | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: LXC's .. they're just directories aren't they? | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | and not seperate file systems/block devices | 09:24 |
| smoku | LXC? | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | linux containers? thought you used it at your machine :) | 09:25 |
| smoku | nope. I use its predecessor - OpenVZ | 09:25 |
| smoku | and yes - it's just chroot on steroids | 09:26 |
| smoku | in both cases | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:26 |
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| * dm8tbr is using LXC | 09:30 | |
| lbt | lxc doesn't offer the same isolation as virtualisation from a security PoV iirc | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | i know | 09:31 |
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| dm8tbr | it's the same kernel for all instances, so that makes /dev/mem a dangerous place :) | 09:32 |
| kimju | there be dragons? :) | 09:33 |
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| lbt | depends... if you're running untrusted code (like in a builder or mic2) | 09:34 |
| lbt | to be reasonably secure for those you need to have a discrete kernel AFAIK | 09:34 |
| lbt | see how many hosting companies give you root on an lxc container vs xen/kvm | 09:35 |
| dm8tbr | yeah, I'd be cautious in an OBS setting | 09:35 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: any news on n950 image? | 09:50 |
| Sage_ | including musicshelf to image and then building all images | 10:01 |
| Sage_ | sry, had some other things that distracted me a bit. | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 10:02 |
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| Sage_ | Found '/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/kernel-adaptation-pandaboard-3.1-24.1.arm' in installed files; aborting <- what does that mean? | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | something screwed up | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | i guess | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | take a hard look at your %install and perhaps the /lib/modules/ | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | " | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | Anyway, the old mic2 will be replaced by a new written tool, named "mic", which | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | will be much better. As Kevin have told you, you can have a try by using the pkgs | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | in devel:tools:building project of MeeGo obs. | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | Thanks | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | " | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 10:39 |
| lbt | shouldn't it be tic ? | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | that is curious indeed | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:39 |
| Sage_ | I saw that commit couple of days ago | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | can't see any immediate arm support | 10:41 |
| Sage_ | at least they had arm tests there | 10:41 |
| Sage_ | n900 .ks file IIRC | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | point | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | will you track that as a replacement for mic2 in mer/nemo? | 10:42 |
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| Sage_ | didn't test that as my current installation works nicely :D | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 10:42 |
| Sage_ | sure I can check that once we get a bit further. | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:42 |
| Sage_ | "We will post additional details about this project in the coming weeks, including the code, developer documentation, and more. We look forward to working with all of you to make Tizen a success!" <- this was 5 weeks ago :D | 10:45 |
| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rawlog?arch=armv7el&package=kernel-adaptation-pandaboard&project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AAdaptation%3Apandaboard&repository=Mer_Core_armv7l <- I don't get this. | 10:46 |
| Sage_ | make install goes ok, but the + /usr/lib/rpm/check-buildroot script sees something it doesn't like | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | ls -lR buildroot? | 10:47 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: added also grep kernel-adaptation-pandaboard there | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:50 |
| Sage_ | probably time to eat something. | 10:51 |
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| Stskeeps | sounds like a good idea | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | i'm testing n950 image | 10:52 |
| dcthang | on N950, there are some hw issues to connect to operator with oFono lib | 10:55 |
| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rawlog?arch=armv7el&package=kernel-adaptation-pandaboard&project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AAdaptation%3Apandaboard&repository=Mer_Core_armv7l <- does this give you more clues? | 10:58 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: urgh.. | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: look how old packaging got rid of that | 11:01 |
| * Stskeeps tries to boot n950 image | 11:05 | |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: not getting an ui | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | oh, scrap that | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | was just in idle mode | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | wifi works.. | 11:11 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: e.g. cp -a acpi asm-generic config crypto drm generated keys linux math-emu media mtd net pcmcia rdma rxrpc scsi sound video trace $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/lib/modules/$KernelVer/build/include | 11:12 |
| Sage_ | 200 lines of mv, cp, ln, touch :D | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 11:12 |
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| Sage_ | \o/ kernel headers in package :) | 11:41 |
| Sage_ | file /usr/include/video/sisfb.h from install of kernel-adaptation-pandaboard-headers-3.1-30.1.Mer.armv7l conflicts with file from package kernel-headers-2.6.37-1.1.Mer.armv7l | 11:41 |
| Sage_ | :D | 11:41 |
| Sage_ | hmmp | 11:42 |
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| Sage_ | so where the headers should be? | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | don't install them into /usr/include, for sure.. | 11:43 |
| Sage_ | or should my package "Provides: kernel-headers"? | 11:43 |
| Sage_ | my f15 installs kernel headers to /usr/include :P | 11:44 |
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| kimju | hmm, imho /usr/include should contain those kernel headers that your libc was compiled against | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | which is our kernel-headers package | 11:46 |
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| Sage_ | ok, so my package should be kernel-devel? | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | right | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | look at how they did it for old packaging i guess | 11:46 |
| * Sage_ enjoys when he learns more about kernel packaging | 11:49 | |
| Sage_ | also I'm missing a lot of files from my devel package | 11:50 |
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| Sage_ | vgrade: do you know if there is meego image that boots on acer iconia a500? I have one iconia a500 that is bricked on android side so free for other testing if it boots :) | 13:23 |
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| vgrade | looks at a500 | 13:26 |
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| Sage_ | vgrade: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/TEGRA2#Advent_Vega <- the link for fastboot doesn't work | 13:34 |
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| vgrade | Sage_ , look a possible target. We need a 2.6.38 kernel (or GPU stuff backported) to match the gfx userspace drivers. I can see a 2.6.36 kernel but nothing later. If it gets an ICS update that should come with a later kernel | 13:36 |
| Jucato | hm .. advent vega ... still tempted to risk borking mom's, even when I already have my own tablet :) | 13:36 |
| vgrade | Sage_, fastboot linked from here | 13:39 |
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| vgrade | http://android.modaco.com/topic/333705-linux-fastboot-protical-on-your-vega-dev/ | 13:39 |
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| vgrade | Sage_, link updated | 13:42 |
| Sage_ | no usb devices are found when booting the iconia with musb cable attached | 13:44 |
| Sage_ | ah, now it found something | 13:45 |
| Sage_ | so not totally dead :) | 13:46 |
| vgrade | Sage, you usually need some key sequence, holding down to boot into apx mode | 13:47 |
| vgrade | this will allow you to nvflash erase the boot partition | 13:48 |
| vgrade | this will then boot into fastboot mode | 13:48 |
| vgrade | at least on the Vega anywasy | 13:48 |
| Sage_ | trying to do just "sudo ./fastboot boot zImage" to check if that can even find the device | 13:49 |
| Sage_ | no success :/ | 13:50 |
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| vgrade | the fastboot method may be device specific. The other method is nvflash method | 13:51 |
| Sage_ | guide to that? | 13:51 |
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| vgrade | sec, but have a look for a software/firmware update for the device they usually come with nvflash all setup. Usually an exe which you can unzip. | 13:53 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: btw, the device is just blank. So nothing comes to screen and probably there is nothing in the ROM either :) | 13:54 |
| Sage_ | so probably some very low level stuff needed. And personally I don't have much experience with android based tools | 13:54 |
| vgrade | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/TEGRA2/Notes | 13:55 |
| vgrade | Sage_ if there is a firmware upgrade it usually can sort things out once you get the device in the right mode. As I said usually press power while holding up/doen/home key | 13:56 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: People from whom I got this said that device didn't respond to any firmware upgrades | 13:57 |
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| vgrade | http://acer--uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/9154/related/1/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xMzIwMzI4NjA2L3NpZC9zMUFFdWJJaw%3D%3D/~/android-tablet-firmware-update so I guess they tried this as well | 13:58 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: I tried that reset button already, no effect. | 14:00 |
| Sage_ | This tablet is "brick" because some root hack went bad or something | 14:00 |
| vgrade | For going into recovery mode power off your device and then by holding the power and volume down button until you see something on the screen. | 14:01 |
| * Sage_ ponders which direction is volume down | 14:01 | |
| Sage_ | http://acer--uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/11986/related/1/~/android-tablet-firmware-update <- devices doesn't vibrate :P | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: sorry for spamming a bit on the xorg review :P | 14:04 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: nah, it disappears to the normal mail flood :) | 14:05 |
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| vgrade | Sage_ ok, sounds like the android boot and recovery partitons are wiped. All the tegra devices I've seen can be booted into a nVidia apx mode to allow nvflash to talk. I'l see if I can find out if the A500 can support this mode | 14:06 |
| Sage_ | the nvflash is not there at the website http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/page/Backup+and+Restore | 14:09 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt / phaeron: ping | 14:58 |
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| Stskeeps | nm | 14:58 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: pong | 15:00 |
| phaeron | ok | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | found out how ruote "set" worked :) | 15:00 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: you canuse a seperate .conf too | 16:18 |
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| vgrade | Sage, found this, seems there is some locking on the device :( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115349 | 18:30 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm starting to like ruote quite a bit | 19:28 |
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| Sage_ | vgrade: :/ | 19:41 |
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| vgrade | Sage_ looks like thats a non starter for Nemo builds but I would say you may be able to reflash it with stock bins | 19:44 |
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| Sage_ | vgrade: "may be able to reflash" did you find a guide for that? :) | 20:16 |
| tagunil | hello everyone | 20:17 |
| tagunil | I'm a beginner | 20:17 |
| tagunil | Can someone tell me whether it is possible to build Mer-based image from .ks file on non-Fedora system? | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | should be :) | 20:19 |
| vgrade | Sage_ I was going on some of the comments from the last link , I thougt I read that you maybe could get device back if you used the right bins ie ones with the right keys | 20:19 |
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| vgrade | tagunil, hi, mic2 has been used on other distros, ubuntu for eg but I've had most success with fedora. I use a ready made vm in virtualbox | 20:21 |
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| vgrade | Sage_ "ok i fixed it with a backup of p7 so with this we can confirm that checksums are in p7" | 20:24 |
| vgrade | and "another way to boot into APX mode, is turning off the tablet. | 20:24 |
| vgrade | push and hold the "reset" button and press power on and wait.. and you get APX enabled as well.." | 20:24 |
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| Sage_ | didn't work | 20:24 |
| tagunil | vgrade: mic2 can't build a bootstrap from Mer repo on my Gentoo :( I will try Fedora. Thanks! | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | tagunil: that's not unknown, use mic-bootstrap | 20:25 |
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| Stskeeps | http://review.merproject.org/#change,89 (look at comments), is starting to look coool | 20:26 |
| tagunil | Stskeeps: from which repo can I create bootstrap? someone of MeeGo's? | 20:27 |
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| Stskeeps | tagunil: yeah, meego should be fine atm | 20:27 |
| tagunil | Sage_: I've looked at your kde-runtime build log | 20:32 |
| tagunil | Sage_: according to kde-runtime's CMakeLists.txt, nepomuk part of kde-runtime isn't building without Soprano Virtuoso Backend | 20:32 |
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| vgrade | tagunil, we saw that but we don't understand as the cmake seems to find soprano bits but then reports they are missing | 20:35 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, Mer automation working for free! | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, means less work for the rest of us ;) | 20:36 |
| vgrade | does it do kernel packaging :) | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | it only currently does the core packages :) | 20:36 |
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| tagunil | vgrade: ah, sorry... Will try to find anything else | 20:40 |
| Sage_ | tagunil: ah, thx. Need to look that | 20:42 |
| Sage_ | tagunil: ok, nm :) | 20:44 |
| Sage_ | aaah... | 20:45 |
| Sage_ | * Virtuoso storage backend (missing libiodbc - http://www.iodbc.org) | 20:46 |
| Sage_ | I disabled that iodbc dependency :D | 20:46 |
| Sage_ | ok so my fault :) | 20:46 |
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| Sage_ | vgrade, tagunil: So I found out the issue. Will check if I can fix that | 20:49 |
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| Sage_ | vgrade: grr, it seems that I really need to get gtk there to get that part included :/ | 20:53 |
| Sage_ | which is a bit ironic as plasma should be qt based in general :P | 20:53 |
| Sage_ | or hmm | 20:54 |
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| tagunil | Sage_: yes, --disable-gui --disable-gtktest configure options should help to build libiodbc without gtk :) | 21:08 |
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| Sage_ | tagunil: well, I did something a bit more radical :) | 21:09 |
| Sage_ | tagunil: I removed all gtk related packages from the buildroot :D | 21:09 |
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| vgrade | Sage_ that gtk is everwhere. I've recently built QtDesktop which is Qt based with all Qt/QML apps. Except they pulled in xscreensaver which pulled in gtk | 21:16 |
| vgrade | I did the same removed xscreensaver | 21:16 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: managed to get rid of it :) | 21:17 |
| Sage_ | now waiting and hoping that everything builds | 21:17 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: if it builds only 31 packages in my MW :) | 21:17 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: sry, 28 (3 are to be upstreamed to KDE:Devel) | 21:17 |
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| tagunil | Sage_: so what is main differences between your Mer:UX:PlasmaActive and Project:KDE:Devel? They are also building on Mer... | 21:18 |
| vgrade | Sage_ that would be a manageable amount | 21:19 |
| vgrade | tagunil, they are using Mer_Extras which has around 165 packages over and above Mer core. Sage_ is looking to reduce that | 21:20 |
| Sage_ | tagunil: very small. Only 3 minor patches to go and it is done. Mainly just removing some deps. | 21:20 |
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| Sage_ | There might be some lost functionality though in my version but that needs to be looked latest if those matter actually in mobile environment | 21:23 |
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| tagunil | vgrade, Sage_: thanks! I'd like to see something like Nemo or Plasma Active on my N900 :) So I want to help somehow... I can test N900 images at least | 21:25 |
| Sage_ | \o/ success \o/ | 21:25 |
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| vgrade | tagunil, I've tried plasma on N900 and it grinds to a halt. There was a memory regression which does not matter on ExoPc/Wetab with 2GB | 21:26 |
| vgrade | Sage_ nice one | 21:26 |
| vgrade | kdepim and plasma-mobile are not building in KDE:Devel atm | 21:29 |
| tagunil | vgrade: any chances for that regression to be fixed? | 21:30 |
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| vgrade | tagunil, yes the guys are looking at it. http://pastie.org/2806742 | 21:34 |
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| tagunil | vgrade: isn't this note about memory consumption on startup only? | 21:48 |
| vgrade | tagunil yes, but that breaks the budget on N900 I think | 21:50 |
| vgrade | Sage_ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158260 , looks like you need to talk to sc2k | 21:57 |
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| vgrade | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlGHZ5VTAr8 | 22:00 |
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| tagunil | vgrade: so all of N900's memory will be used anyway, just a bit later? Or I've missed something? | 22:01 |
| vgrade | They were looking at usage of 110MB when it was supposed to be 30MB | 22:07 |
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| tagunil | vgrade: ah, I've understood. will wait... | 22:15 |
| vgrade | there is a build at http://images.formeego.org/n900/plasma-active/ but its incomplete | 22:16 |
| tagunil | vgrade: I've seen a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1RhTntuCiQ | 22:19 |
| tagunil | vgrade: looked pretty well | 22:19 |
| vgrade | yea that was before I fixed a couple of things :) | 22:23 |
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| vgrade | give it a go | 22:27 |
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| vgrade | cxl000, hi | 22:56 |
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| cxl000 | morning vgrade | 22:56 |
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| vgrade | I've been doing some packaging, well trying | 22:59 |
| Jucato | oh hey that's my video :) | 22:59 |
| vgrade | all new to me so going round in circles a bit | 22:59 |
| vgrade | Jucato, hi | 22:59 |
| Jucato | hi vgrade! | 23:00 |
| vgrade | nice new tablet I hear | 23:00 |
| Jucato | heh yeah :) | 23:00 |
| vgrade | x86 though, does it run hot | 23:00 |
| Jucato | yep :) | 23:00 |
| vgrade | Exopc has a fan exhaust at the top | 23:01 |
| vgrade | edge | 23:01 |
| Jucato | ditto :) | 23:01 |
| cxl000 | I've also built the 3.1 kernel for the n810 and some of the the supporting packages | 23:01 |
| vgrade | no wonder intel can't do phones | 23:01 |
| Jucato | vgrade: I can imagine burning/exploding phones :) | 23:01 |
| tripzero | hmm... | 23:02 |
| vgrade | cxl000 cool, did you have a look at Stskeeps cvm projects on Build.meego.com | 23:02 |
| * tripzero 's n900 says maemo update available? | 23:02 | |
| vgrade | cxl000, pepedog ran the QtDesktop on Arch om trimslice as well | 23:03 |
| tripzero | vgrade, exopc is a netbook cpu in a tablet. not exactly the same as what you'd ever see in an intel based handset/tablet | 23:03 |
| cxl000 | Yes. I built watchdog. refreshed from upstream with systemd not yet tested | 23:03 |
| Jucato | tripzero: but weren't they also advertising Pine Trail for tablets? | 23:03 |
| vgrade | tripzero, looking forward to the next gen intel | 23:03 |
| tripzero | Jucato, intel? not pinetrail afaik | 23:04 |
| Jucato | but actually yeah, having netbook-like specs is the reason I actually picked this over an ARM tablet. much more familiar ground for me to hack on | 23:04 |
| Jucato | (I mean, in terms of software availability and stuff) | 23:05 |
| cxl000 | Looks like he was using tslib for touch screen but it should be possible to use evdev | 23:05 |
| tripzero | iirc, they were pushing oaktrail for tablets | 23:05 |
| Jucato | ah | 23:06 |
| Jucato | wrong tree then :) | 23:06 |
| vgrade | cxl000, I've packaged libopenspotify for rpm, next qspot | 23:06 |
| tripzero | hehe | 23:06 |
| Jucato | I don't mind the heat a bit. with 4 hours unplugged battery life (on standby I think), you won't be holding it much :) | 23:06 |
| Jucato | (unplugged, that is) | 23:06 |
| vgrade | Jucato, winter is comming no need for gloves | 23:08 |
| Jucato | hehehe | 23:08 |
| Jucato | we don't have winter here :P | 23:08 |
| Jucato | but yeah it's getting colder, but never cold enough for gloves | 23:08 |
| tripzero | bah, it's just a security update. :( | 23:09 |
| Jucato | from maemo? O.o | 23:09 |
| Jucato | oh CSSU? | 23:09 |
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