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| Sage_ | morning | 05:17 |
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| iekku | morning | 05:33 |
| * Sage_ is wondering even more about the kernel packaging now when doing it from a clean table and how simple it appears to be in the end. | 05:34 | |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: mer should sync with the connman from T:T btw | 05:36 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: also check SR 24438 | 05:37 |
| Sage_ | on build.meego.com | 05:37 |
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| Sage_ | hah, build.tizen.org responds to me however requires username and pass but it responds :) | 05:44 |
| Sage_ | same with api. | 05:45 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=kernel-adaptation-pandaboard&project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AAdaptation%3Apandaboard :) | 06:04 |
| Sage_ | haven't tried and there is probably things that need fixing, but at least the packaging is simple :) | 06:05 |
| Sage_ | So only x-loader to go and I should have the nessessary components for panda built. | 06:07 |
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| * dm8tbr adds api.tizen.org to his monitoring... :D | 06:10 | |
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| Sage_ | :) | 06:15 |
| _av500_ | password | 06:17 |
| _av500_ | ? | 06:17 |
| slonopotamus | read through http://merproject.org:2080/project/packages?project=Mer%3ATrunk%3ABase ... why lua, wayland and scons? | 06:18 |
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| Sage_ | It is not open for public :) | 06:19 |
| _av500_ | i guess they are still porting the community... | 06:20 |
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| * _av500_ could not troll the tizen talk at ELCE | 06:20 | |
| _av500_ | it trolled itself | 06:20 |
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| slonopotamus_ | meh, got disconnected | 06:21 |
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| slonopotamus_ | really, why lua? | 06:24 |
| _av500_ | nice short name | 06:27 |
| slonopotamus_ | i mean, why it is in base? | 06:28 |
| _av500_ | but scons.... | 06:28 |
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| Stskeeps | slonopotamus_: wayland's there for mesa | 06:58 |
| Stskeeps | slonopotamus_: scons is some crazy thing that needs it | 06:58 |
| Bostik | crazy is just the word | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | slonopotamus_: look at Core:i586 instead though | 06:59 |
| Bostik | it has the sex appeal of a car crash - not something you'd want to be in but can't help to slow down and keep looking | 07:00 |
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| Stskeeps | actually, i'm not sure why scons is there | 07:01 |
| Stskeeps | looks like it could potentially be removed | 07:01 |
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| Stskeeps | liblua is required by rpm, rpmlint, etc | 07:01 |
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| * Stskeeps hugs his coffee machine | 07:08 | |
| vgrade | morning | 07:08 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: good work with qtdesktop | 07:09 |
| vgrade | Sage, I like the simplicity of that kernel spec | 07:09 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, there a a number of associated apps, http://www.qtdesktop.org/home/applist | 07:11 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: how performant is it? | 07:12 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, very, feels very snappy | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:14 |
| vgrade | will do a video once I have some apps up | 07:15 |
| vgrade | qmlviewer splash is smooth | 07:16 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: fun - bme internally fails to build | 07:22 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, Eugene from QtDesktop has emailed interested in the project. He has n810 | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | armv6 builds are imported into COBS | 07:43 |
| vgrade | Ok, Mer_Core_armv6l | 07:44 |
| vgrade | ? | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | yea | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | see topic | 07:45 |
| vgrade | need to add v6 to the wiki, what scheduler does it use? | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | armv7el | 07:47 |
| vgrade | thanks | 07:48 |
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| Stskeeps | jarkko^: is libsmack still being maintained anywhere? | 08:01 |
| mece | wtf is smack? Sounds... interesting. | 08:02 |
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| Sage_ | vgrade: so do I. Need to test if that works though. | 08:04 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: :/ Well we haven't checked those in a long time. | 08:09 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah | 08:10 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: i'm pondering if we should just add libcreds and libsmack to n950 adaptation | 08:18 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: I can check those sure. If you see the need for those | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i'm just reading the code and i'm pondering if it's worth pulling out those dependancies | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: could you add ns1.gratisdns.dk .. ns5 in the IN NS section for merproject.org when you wake up? | 08:20 |
| jarkko^ | Stskeeps: it was not maintained until autumn | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | jarkko^: ok | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | jarkko^: reason i asked was because i saw you working on chromium-smack so | 08:21 |
| jarkko^ | yes i'm working on smack sandboxing for that | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:22 |
| jarkko^ | libsmack was on free fall after feb | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | understandable | 08:22 |
| jarkko^ | and in september i cleaned up unnecessary parts and now I think I'll tag 1.0 soon | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:23 |
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| niqt | morning | 08:23 |
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| jarkko^ | I'm also working on unofficial side project called smackctl.. it is under tests directory of libsmack atm | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:25 |
| jarkko^ | my idea is to create initializer for smack user space in C so it would be better fit for embedded systems | 08:25 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: checking the libsmack/libcreds now and what deps they need | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | jarkko^: makes sense | 08:26 |
| jarkko^ | libcreds can be dropped | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | jarkko^: we're dealing with BME from nokia, so we can't totally drop libcreds.. | 08:26 |
| jarkko^ | it is unused and no one is maintaining it as far as i know | 08:27 |
| jarkko^ | ok | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | jarkko^: just want to rely on code flows to make sure it doesn't function (as aegis isn't up) | 08:27 |
| jarkko^ | ok | 08:28 |
| * Sage_ is having problems loading build.pub.meego.com site | 08:29 | |
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| dm8tbr | Sage_: I've seen some flapping, maybe there is a DDoS again? | 08:31 |
| X-Fade | Yeah, OSU is dropping connections for me again. | 08:32 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: libcreds doesn't work as such from meego so need to look at that or need to drop the dep. | 08:33 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 08:33 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: define 'doesnt' work as such'? | 08:40 |
| Sage_ | doesn't compile :) | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok url? | 08:40 |
| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=libcreds3&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Amer%3Ahw%3An950 | 08:40 |
| Sage_ | Unable to verify if it works in meego.com T:T as that obs is down :P | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | sigh | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:41 |
| Sage_ | s/works/compiles/ | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | .. yeah, that looks bad | 08:41 |
| Sage_ | I managed to do copypac before that obs went down :D | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | use markus's libcreds2 instead | 08:41 |
| Sage_ | I suspect that it doesn't compile in the first place for arm atm. | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:44 |
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| Stskeeps | let's see how libcreds2 works when it's up again and after that fails, i'll patch bme | 08:45 |
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| Sage_ | X-Fade, lbt: wazzup with cobs? scheduler died? | 08:56 |
| lbt | looking | 08:57 |
| X-Fade | Sage_: Checking already. | 08:57 |
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| * Sage_ kicks COBS | 09:07 | |
| X-Fade | Crappy connectivity. | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | rats eating at the cables | 09:07 |
| * Sage_ sees package building again in cobs | 09:10 | |
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| Sage_ | X-Fade: may I ask what was the problem this time? | 09:11 |
| X-Fade | Sage_: network connectivity. | 09:11 |
| lbt | I concurr :D | 09:11 |
| X-Fade | Sage_: Remote link -> no network, wait wait. | 09:11 |
| X-Fade | network back, scheduler running again. | 09:12 |
| Sage_ | :/ | 09:12 |
| X-Fade | My ssh connections got disconnected 3 times already this morning. | 09:12 |
| X-Fade | And I'm not even on my 2nd coffee :) | 09:13 |
| dm8tbr | hmm do we still use btrfs for something or did we move away from that? seems there is some updated toolset, still no fsck though | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | we usually use ext4 | 09:22 |
| dm8tbr | *nod* | 09:23 |
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| arnet | Shishkin, whos currently maintains reiser4 and works for redhat, also does some work on btrfs was critisizing btrfs in one interview | 09:39 |
| arnet | like, "they dont really understand what they are doing" | 09:40 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: you taking that libcreds2 thing with bme? | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i can | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | when obs is back up | 10:04 |
| Sage_ | hehe | 10:04 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, did you get the n810 kernel from https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/target/linux/omap24xx | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:19 |
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| vgrade | and flashing instructions from , http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/n810-openwrt.html | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | you can just use flasher -l -k zimage -b | 10:24 |
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| niqt | how can build flashable image for N900? if exist instrunction i can write it on wiki for all, so you don't repeat the same things | 10:36 |
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| cxl000 | vgrade I have one cooking in https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=kernel-adaptation-n810&project=home%3Acxl000%3An810%3Atesting | 11:12 |
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| vgrade | cxl000, ok | 12:08 |
| vgrade | did you see pandaboard kernel spec from Sage, really cutdown | 12:09 |
| vgrade | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=kernel-adaptation-pandaboard&project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AAdaptation%3Apandaboard | 12:10 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: good work on kernel packaging | 13:04 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: is it up to date? http://wiki.meego.com/User:Stskeeps/10_easy_steps_to_a_local_OBS | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | no | 13:07 |
| smoku | anything else I should read? | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_private_installation perhaps | 13:08 |
| smoku | cool. thanks :) | 13:08 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: thanks | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: surprisingily simple.. and kind of depressing too ;) | 13:12 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: I couldn't believe my eyes when I got it compiled with so few lines :D | 13:12 |
| Sage_ | Why on the earth people are using so complex packaging for kernel :) | 13:12 |
| Sage_ | However, that doesn't package the devel and probably some other things are missing, but it has the kernel binary and the modules which is already quite nice. | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:13 |
| Sage_ | I will boot that kernel on panda this evening at home if I have time to. To verify that it boots at least | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 13:14 |
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| Sage_ | too bad that I didn't get the x-loader to compile yet. Otherwise the adaptation for panda would be just a .ks file away :) | 13:14 |
| Sage_ | yes, sgx driver missing, but anyway. | 13:15 |
| Stskeeps | less of a problem :P | 13:15 |
| dm8tbr | Sage_: well we don't have to worry about hfp any more :) | 13:16 |
| Sage_ | dm8tbr: I know :) | 13:16 |
| dm8tbr | I'm trying to find some time and dig into the snowball... | 13:16 |
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| * lbt beats smoku with the burning remnants of the OBS | 13:25 | |
| lbt | smoku: can you disable and Fedora15 builds please | 13:26 |
| lbt | they take out OBS workers | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | 'take out'? | 13:26 |
| lbt | they take up a build slot and cycle forever | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like a bug | 13:27 |
| lbt | it is | 13:27 |
| lbt | kernel on obs != F15 udev | 13:27 |
| lbt | and... actually | 13:28 |
| lbt | they scan through all the workers marking them as bad build hosts | 13:28 |
| lbt | so we have no build hosts | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | fun | 13:28 |
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| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/monitor | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | kill the fedora project? | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | ... | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | that came out wrong | 13:29 |
| lbt | :D done - but existing ones keep running | 13:29 |
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| Stskeeps | can't you as admin abortbuild hne/ | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | them/ | 13:29 |
| lbt | smoku: I <disable repository="Fedora_15"/> in your proj | 13:32 |
| smoku | lbt: oh. I was hoping to do builds for F15 actually | 13:33 |
| lbt | sorry - broken at the moment | 13:33 |
| lbt | it seems to take out every single build host | 13:33 |
| smoku | disabled | 13:33 |
| lbt | ta | 13:35 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: tvp info, crash of 767 in okecie, though i think it says everyone is safe | 14:02 |
| dm8tbr | ew | 14:03 |
| * dm8tbr checks news | 14:03 | |
| Stskeeps | http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/1,114883,10570511,Boeing_767_krazy_nad_Okeciem__Awaria_podwozia.html | 14:03 |
| dm8tbr | rp.pl didn't have it yet | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | i heard a huge roar some time before, might have been f16's checking the landing wheels | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | belly landing, it looks like | 14:04 |
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| dm8tbr | yeps | 14:05 |
| dm8tbr | pretty much SOP for a large airport | 14:05 |
| smoku | irc - the quickest news source :) | 14:09 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: i rarely watch tv | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: me neither, for natural reasons | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | just good for live images at times | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | looks like they closed the airport, https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWeb/notamRetrievalByICAOAction.do?method=displayByICAOs&formatType=ICAO&retrieveLocId=EPWA&reportType=RAW&actionType=notamRetrievalByICAOs | 14:12 |
| smoku | not only airport http://www.tvn24.pl/-1,1722741,0,1,samolot-wyladowal-al-krakowska-nadal-zamknieta,wiadomosc.html | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | and today traffic is extra screwed in the first place around graveyards.. | 14:14 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: is that the chopin airport ? | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: yeah | 14:16 |
| phaeron | oops | 14:16 |
| phaeron | I was supposed to go through there with family tomorrow | 14:17 |
| phaeron | good thing I postponed to 16th | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | not sure when they would reopen it | 14:17 |
| phaeron | it should be fixed by then .. ? | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | i have no idea how quickly you can remove a 767 from a runway :P | 14:17 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: that gazeta page mentions two F16 | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: ok, probably what i heard then | 14:17 |
| dm8tbr | I think the problem is rather damage to the runway | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | that too | 14:18 |
| smoku | there is more than one runway there ;-) | 14:18 |
| dm8tbr | I know, was going to mention | 14:18 |
| dm8tbr | it looked like 3 but I didn't look closely in august | 14:18 |
| smoku | i guess they will reopen the port as soon the passengers are safe | 14:19 |
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| * Stskeeps glances at tv pictures | 14:20 | |
| Stskeeps | those passengers are not nearly far away enough from the plane | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | closed until tomorrow 8:00 at least | 14:21 |
| dm8tbr | did they foam up the rwy? | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | looks like there's a lot of foam at least | 14:22 |
| dm8tbr | I'm sure they sprayed the acft immediately | 14:22 |
| dm8tbr | was just curious as I was just told that using foam for the whole rwy is getting out of fashion | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | there was a lot of sparks at least | 14:23 |
| smoku | I'm trying to come up with a workflow that will allow me to work on the package source and the packaging at the same time | 14:25 |
| smoku | both local OBS and rpmbuild looks like PITA | 14:25 |
| smoku | did anyone come up with an easy solution for this? | 14:26 |
| dm8tbr | osc build or whatever that is? | 14:26 |
| smoku | this needs upstream obs holding the sources | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: sec | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/Local_Build_Without_OBS_Needed maybe | 14:27 |
| smoku | s/sources/packages/ | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: ah, there was clearly foam on the runway | 14:28 |
| dm8tbr | tnx | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | either that or snow came early | 14:28 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: what is the format of --repository 'build' uses? | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: URL for a rpm repo | 14:30 |
| smoku | so file:///.... to 'createrepo' repository is enough? | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | possibly | 14:31 |
| smoku | that may work. | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | not sure how it works with multiple, hopefully it does | 14:31 |
| smoku | thanks :) | 14:31 |
| smoku | i will need to tgz the source beforehand though, right? | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but you can probably add that to an alias | 14:32 |
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| dm8tbr | btw: that beagle-bone looks interesting | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 14:35 |
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| dm8tbr | I'd expect the beagleboard adaptation would be easy to extend | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | for more oomph than the raspberry | 14:35 |
| dm8tbr | comes without any graphics output ootb though :) | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | huh? | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | didn't spot that | 14:36 |
| dm8tbr | yeah, they'll be pushing that as addon-boards | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | ah, expansion boards | 14:36 |
| dm8tbr | DVI-D is almost ready | 14:37 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: 'add to an alias'? | 14:37 |
| dm8tbr | "A DVI-D board is in the prototype phase right now. HDMI, VGA and LCD boards will follow. " | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: bash aliases or something :P | 14:37 |
| smoku | oh :) | 14:37 |
| smoku | yeah. I was going to scripting, just was making sure | 14:38 |
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| smoku | lbt: care to share /usr/lib/build/configs/f15.conf ? :) | 14:58 |
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| smoku | lbt: from cobs setup | 15:00 |
| lbt | mmm | 15:01 |
| lbt | not sure that's applied when it's a remote link | 15:02 |
| lbt | and it's not present | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: look at build.opensuse.org "project configuration" | 15:03 |
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| smoku | lbt: oh | 15:05 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: don't follow | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: sec | 15:05 |
| lbt | sorry - the fact that you were asking for a specific file made me think you knew what was happening :) | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.opensuse.org/project/prjconf?project=Fedora%3A15 | 15:05 |
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| lbt | yeah ... there you go | 15:06 |
| lbt | ta Stskeeps | 15:06 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: thanks | 15:06 |
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| Stskeeps | playing with BOSS and gerrit: http://pastie.org/2794464 | 17:33 |
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| tomeff | hi, i have dded to my sdcard this image : http://images.formeego.org/n900/plasma-active/meego-plasma-handset-armv7hl-n900-1.2.90.20111024.1246-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 and how i can now boot it on n900 (momentaly power-kernel) | 18:21 |
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| Stskeeps | tomeff: follow instructions for MeeGo on N900 | 18:23 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: interesting ! | 18:44 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: git hooks ? | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: nop, gerrit will call scripts | 18:44 |
| phaeron | ah, cool | 18:45 |
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| phaeron | we did http://ether-team.github.com/ether/ earlier for git hooks but didn't complete it | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:47 |
| phaeron | https://github.com/ether-team/ether/blob/master/contrib/github.py was to integrate with github | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/2794828 | 18:48 |
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| Stskeeps | nice and unix-y | 18:49 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: so gerrit boss obs meet :) | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: yeah, at some point during the process - http://www.merproject.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi is practically all our packages, ie, the packaging | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | so i use OBS more as a builder service instead of trying to put a workflow into it | 18:54 |
| phaeron | the purpose of the workflow we put in obs is for testing and release. source code should be separate from it imho | 18:56 |
| phaeron | so I agree with what you are doing :) | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: what i mean is, http://www.merproject.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=mer-core/attr.git;a=tree | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | so it changes things around a fair bit how things are pushed in to the system | 18:58 |
| * Sage_ is flashing mer pandaboard image to sdcard | 18:59 | |
| Sage_ | need to manually copy x-loader to it but testing that process works | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | good luck :) | 18:59 |
| Sage_ | thx :) | 18:59 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: mmm , the offline obs thing you were working on | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: yeah | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: lbt came up with an idea during a session that what hinders CI in meego-derived products is the fact that you can't follow it change-by-change | 19:03 |
| phaeron | because packages in obs are opaque | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: http://www.merproject.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=mer/project-core.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7863ba155a90b958d8f3b9ba66e2e4bacdf98b1 | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | the core is actually described by a git repo itself | 19:04 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... doesn't boot :/ | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: what step? uboot? xloader? kernel? | 19:04 |
| Sage_ | well, power led turns on but nothing comes out from the serial | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: ok, and another sd card works i assume? | 19:05 |
| phaeron | I don't know why #obs shot down the idea of putting git at the core of obs | 19:05 |
| Sage_ | I should see at least the xloader thin | 19:05 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: dunno either, but i kinda like this approach, makes it very easy to fork mer and distribute it | 19:05 |
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| Stskeeps | (and keep up to date) | 19:05 |
| phaeron | maybe you should talk to dima, he's doing a light build service | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, maybe | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | the OBS light stuff or something else? | 19:09 |
| phaeron | no that's still obs | 19:10 |
| phaeron | he's doing something not obs :) | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 19:10 |
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| Sage_ | hell... not sure what is wrong :/ | 19:13 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: phaeron ... interesting way to look at it ... | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | look at what? | 19:15 |
| lbt | "what hinders CI in meego-derived products is the fact that you can't follow it change-by-change" | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: well, that's where i got the idea to actually pull this off :P | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | do you have a different interpretation? | 19:16 |
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| Sage_ | ah, boot flag missing | 19:17 |
| lbt | no - the "stream of changes" that we discussed in that room is very similar | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:18 |
| lbt | there's a lot about the version control and change sync that matters | 19:18 |
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| Sage_ | \o/ | 19:27 |
| vgrade | nice one | 19:27 |
| Sage_ | pandaboard boots with 3.1.0 kernel :) | 19:27 |
| Sage_ | to some point | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: woo \o/ | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | obscure but useful OBS commands: "osc init" | 19:28 |
| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/2795042 | 19:28 |
| Sage_ | can someone say what is wrong? :) | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: devtmpfs | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | missing | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y | 19:29 |
| Sage_ | thx | 19:29 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, beat me to that one. One from my presentation | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade's wiki user page on wiki.mego.com | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:30 |
| Sage_ | any other kernel option that I should check? | 19:32 |
| vgrade | http://wiki.meego.com/User:Vgrade#Mer_Kernel | 19:32 |
| Sage_ | thx | 19:33 |
| Sage_ | why ipv6 and dummy to n? | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | dummy to n is because of connman | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | ipv6 .. i guess no good reason | 19:34 |
| Sage_ | # CONFIG_DUMMY is not set | 19:34 |
| Sage_ | ^ same as =n ? | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:34 |
| Sage_ | ok | 19:35 |
| vgrade | Sage_, is this an android kernel | 19:35 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: upstream kernel from kernel.org | 19:35 |
| vgrade | ok, so no need to remove PARANIOD_ANDRIOD | 19:35 |
| vgrade | I also have this other list http://wiki.meego.com/User:Vgrade#MeeGo_Kernel_Options | 19:36 |
| Sage_ | CONFIG_AUTOFS4=y <- what is this for? | 19:37 |
| lbt | nfs thing | 19:37 |
| lbt | automounter | 19:37 |
| Sage_ | so not needed | 19:38 |
| lbt | you *can* use it for other things too though | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | it is kinda needed for systemd | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | afaik | 19:38 |
| Sage_ | ah, ok | 19:38 |
| Sage_ | # CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS is not set | 19:38 |
| Sage_ | ^ Is that the same? | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | devtmpfs is anyway the error you get | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:39 |
| Sage_ | yes, have that rebuilding already | 19:39 |
| Sage_ | with cgroups as well | 19:39 |
| Sage_ | and the modules.dep fix | 19:39 |
| lbt | AUTOFS4_FS is the top level thing to configure if using the automounter | 19:40 |
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| lbt | systemd may use layers below | 19:41 |
| vgrade | I thought it was in the systemd deps but can't find the link now | 19:41 |
| lbt | I'm kinda surprised you want it | 19:43 |
| vgrade | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#What_kernel_options_do_I_need_to_enable_in_my_kernel_in_case_I_do_not_use_the_official_Arch_kernel.3F | 19:43 |
| lbt | I'm not surprised systemd will manage it as a daemon though | 19:43 |
| vgrade | I added it after reading the Arch page | 19:44 |
| Sage_ | CONFIG_FANOTIFY=y, optional, required for systemd readahead. <- Stskeeps might be the error in our boot from readahead | 19:44 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: there ? | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: yep | 19:45 |
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| crevetor | Guy I have a qeustion : if I have a working framebuffer console I should be able to have a working Xorg using fbdev right ? (without HW acceleration of course) | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: usually, but MSM is a bit special i think | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: look for xorg-x11-drv-msm | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade and others have notes on wiki.meego.com | 19:46 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: I've read through those already | 19:46 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: but it seems that this driver doesn't support 8x60 | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 19:46 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: In any case it says in the Xorg.0.log that fb0 not an MSM device | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | fbdev should work on it's own | 19:47 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: for some strange reason it seems to be looking for some omap specific stuff /sys/../omap/dss or something like that | 19:47 |
| vgrade | crevetor, what hw are we talking about | 19:48 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: I still have hope since it seems that lib*GL* for webos is linked against a regular libc and not android's libc | 19:48 |
| crevetor | vgrade: HP Touchpad | 19:48 |
| crevetor | MSM8060 | 19:48 |
| vgrade | ah ok, i saw the video, nice one | 19:48 |
| crevetor | vgrade: the video doesn't show much. But it boots up, I can ssh to it and stuff. I need to get X working now | 19:49 |
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| vgrade | crevetor, thats interesting | 19:49 |
| vgrade | so the fb is working as you got the plymouth splash | 19:50 |
| crevetor | vgrade: would you be interrested by the sources/howto ? I'm probably going to upload the whole thing to gitorious so that I can get others to start hacking on it | 19:50 |
| crevetor | vgrade: yeah it's working | 19:50 |
| vgrade | I'd be interested as the Nexus port was stalled due to the boinic EGL drivers | 19:51 |
| vgrade | what image , ks are you using? | 19:51 |
| vgrade | omap/dss does not sound right | 19:52 |
| crevetor | vgrade: I'm using the latest CE image for the N900 | 19:53 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: what about CONFIG_CGROUP_DEVICE and CONFIG_CGROUP_FREEZER? | 19:53 |
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| vgrade | Sage, will check my kernel options | 19:56 |
| lbt | not sure why we'd use freezer | 19:57 |
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| vgrade | crevetor, you will need a new image I think to include stock fbdev driver. | 19:58 |
| crevetor | vgrade: the one included is only for omap ? | 19:59 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: also there is alot of other cgroup options as well | 19:59 |
| vgrade | I think omap has its own fbdev driver, Sage_, Stskeeps | 19:59 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: http://pastie.org/2795196 | 19:59 |
| Sage_ | fbdev-sgx yes | 20:00 |
| crevetor | Aha interresting stuff. So I might be able to get X running with the generic fbdev driver then | 20:01 |
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| vgrade | crevetor, you need xorg-x11-drv-fbdev | 20:02 |
| crevetor | this one right ? https://build.meego.com/package/files?package=xorg-x11-drv-fbdev&project=Trunk | 20:02 |
| Sage_ | crevetor: yes, but without hardware acceleration | 20:02 |
| crevetor | Sage_: I'll live with that for right now | 20:03 |
| crevetor | vgrade: I saw that on the wiki page for the nexus port you were talking about the lib*GL* libraries | 20:03 |
| crevetor | vgrade: how would that work ? You would use the regular fbdev driver with those libs ? | 20:04 |
| vgrade | Sage_, http://pastie.org/2795223 | 20:05 |
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| vgrade | crevetor, no, there is a MSM Xorg driver x86-video-msm. But see notes here http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD#code_Aurora_x86-video-msm | 20:07 |
| vgrade | So even if you could get that working it would only give you some linited acceleration | 20:08 |
| crevetor | vgrade: I was talking about this part : http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD#libEGL_and_libGLESv2 | 20:08 |
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| crevetor | vgrade: cause it seems that the webos GL libs aren't linked against the bionic libc | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | you know.. | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | qt has a webos port | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | maybe you can investigate how they composite? | 20:09 |
| crevetor | I saw a libQtGL.so (or something like that) | 20:09 |
| crevetor | I'm really not an expert in all that graphical part so any pointers would be greatly appreciated | 20:10 |
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| vgrade | crevetor, I think you would need an Xorg driver as well as the GLES/EGL libs as I understand it. But like you am a pure beginner on gfx | 20:11 |
| crevetor | K | 20:11 |
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| vgrade | Qualcomm are now selling a dev board dragonboard I think its called and were pushing it at LinuxCon last week | 20:19 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: can you paste your whole .config to pastie? | 20:19 |
| Sage_ | vgrade: or show a link to it | 20:19 |
| vgrade | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=config-adaptation-trimslice&package=kernel-adaptation-trimslice&project=home%3Acxl000%3Atrimslice%3AMer%3Atesting&srcmd5=4cce3f58ea1db848de93f3ceda8d59cf | 20:21 |
| vgrade | is the trimslice one, sec for Pi | 20:21 |
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| vgrade | http://pastie.org/2795311 , Raspberry Pi | 20:23 |
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| Sage_ | ah, finally got it to build again :) | 20:23 |
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| vgrade | I was talking to the Qualcomm kernel guy and asked about non bionic EGL/GLES drivers and he said he had not even thought about that. I think they focussing on Andriod. | 20:25 |
| vgrade | Sage_, should I add CONFIG_FANOTIFY=y to the list | 20:27 |
| Sage_ | I have no idea. | 20:28 |
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| Sage_ | recommended by systemd though | 20:28 |
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| Sage_ | Linux localhost.localdomain 3.1.0 #1 SMP Tue Nov 1 20:27:37 UTC 2011 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux | 20:32 |
| Sage_ | \o/ | 20:32 |
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| Stskeeps | woo \o/ | 20:33 |
| Sage_ | ok, time to continue later. | 20:33 |
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| Sage_ | anyway pandaboots to mer image with only one modification to fs (copy pre compiled x-loader) after mic. | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | excellent | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | see you tomorrow | 20:37 |
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| Stskeeps | progress: http://pastie.org/2795447 | 20:55 |
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| vgrade | Sage_, nice one | 21:00 |
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