Saturday, 2011-10-29

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berndhshey I build a bunch of packages on mer without even trying, the miracles of obs :)03:03
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Stskeepsdm8tbr: so what are the things you miss to be able to kickstart a snowball adaptation? time?06:57
dm8tbrmostly that, yeah06:57
dm8tbrI found enough to talk to a guy yesterday though06:57
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dm8tbr19:58:04<@zuh> These packages should have what you need for the userspace:
dm8tbrso the mali binaries are armel and hopefully not compiled against too many libraries...06:59
* Stskeeps looks06:59
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StskeepslibEGL/libGLESv2 is one big libMali blog06:59
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dm8tbrand I'm unfortunate enough to have an old board:
Stskeepslooks quite innocent in terms of dependancies07:00
Stskeepsthat's a bad thing?07:00
dm8tbrwhich means I probably have to compile most things from source and can't do a quick-and-dirty proof of concept07:01
dm8tbrand bt/wifi/gps won't work07:01
* dm8tbr would have liked at least a working kernel07:01
Stskeepsthere's no working kernel for your device? :P07:01
dm8tbrnot in the latest BSP07:02
dm8tbrI need to start compiling it myself and verify if it works07:03
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dm8tbrand I guess I need the latest kernel as the mali drivers and DVI/HDMI didn't work so far under linux07:04
dm8tbrah, forgot to mention: my board is a V407:04
dm8tbrcaffeine++ didn't kick in yet07:04
Stskeepsyeah, same here..07:05
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Jucatowhat caffeine?07:13
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_av500_Stskeeps: back home=07:40
_av500_Stskeeps: back home?07:40
Stskeeps_av500_: yeah07:41
Stskeepstravelled back 2pm yesterday and then i had a lot of stuff to do here in town :P07:41
Stskeepsso finally able to relax and catch up now :)07:41
Jucatoand most importantly, on the couch?07:44
Stskeepsdamn straight07:45
Stskeepsmorn vgrade07:47
Stskeepshad a good travel back?07:47
Jucatohallo vgrade07:47
Jucatohow was your talk? :)07:47
vgradeyea no 4 hour delay on the way back07:51
Stskeepsvgrade: i came to my gate and it said "20:10 warsaw", that was a bit disturbing07:51
Stskeepsseems like the display had crashed last night07:51
Jucatomust be running windows07:52
vgradeJucato, talk ok I think, not many in thr room, MeeGo in the title may have put people off07:52
Jucatoyou should have taken a dry marker/pen and scratched off MeeGo and wrote Mer :)07:53
vgradeI posted my slides, if you're interested07:55
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gpradewhat does she mean?
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gpradei dont understand her realy, because my english is not very good.09:05
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rantomFor what I can tell nothing that'd very useful09:09
rantoms/that'd/that'd be/09:09
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Stskeepsfaenil: enjoyed qtdd?09:34
faenilStskeeps: oh, it's been GREAT!09:34
faenilWon a Kindle at the drawing on 24th, which was my BIRTHDAY too!! :D09:34
faenilAnd, got a free Cyan N9 ^_^09:34
faeniland, a 25€ Amazon voucher xD And candybags, tshirts, pens, and stuff :)09:35
faenilIt's been wonderful, I really enjoyed meeting people I usually talk to via twitter or irc...and sharing ideas, projects, opinions...great, just great09:35
faenileverything was well planned :)09:36
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faenilhow was linux con?09:39
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Stskeepsmorn lbt09:44
Stskeepsfaenil: was good, though qtdd might also have been useful to go to09:44
lbtgood morning09:44
Stskeepslbt: had a safe trip home?09:44
lbtyep - arrived back just in time for the end of a Tango night :)09:44
faenilStskeeps: glad to hear that :) you can keep that advice for the next year :D09:45
Stskeepsi'm playing with skynet a bit, seems like the example participants are broken :P09:45
Stskeepsie, a syntax error09:45
Stskeepsfound the issue and fixed it09:45
lbtStskeeps: could be - hmmm would be nice if the examples were done as doc-tests09:45
lbtkeep them up to data09:46
Stskeepsbasically print "Send email saying : %s" % wi.contents09:46
Stskeepsshould be wi.fields.contents09:46
lbtah yes09:46
Stskeepsnow that i have some kind of hang of it, i'll start playing around09:46
faenilStskeeps: I asked two three days ago there any chance I can get nemo to work on n950 by looking at files from n900/n950 for CE 1.3...then see what has been changed for n900 nemo, and change that too for n950?09:48
Stskeepsfaenil: i would wait a bit until we have our n950 images of nemo09:49
faenilStskeeps: ok ;) I was told n900 is still not ready, so I thought some help was needed (as far as I can xD)09:50
Stskeepsn900 has images at least09:50
Stskeepsbut not releases rolling yet09:50
faenilyeah I know...09:50
faenilOkay I'll leave that to you then :)09:51
lbtStskeeps: OK - nb it has a bash-completion module09:52
Stskeepslbt: one thing i do wonder.. can i do this as non-root? ie, register participants etc09:53
lbtthat's the idea09:53
Stskeepsi hate developing as root, so :P09:54
faenilStskeeps: do you plan to get camera and battery working before releasing anything? or just get it to CE 1.3 state?09:54
faenilout od curiosity :)09:54
lbtStskeeps: as it stands it's an admin tool09:54
lbtso it's root oriented09:54
Stskeepsfaenil: i think first we get things booting09:55
faenilStskeeps: ohhh good :D09:55
faenilStskeeps: so there's still a lot to do :D09:55
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faenilI feel useless xD10:04
Stskeepsjust a lot of puzzle pieces to fit together10:07
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Stskeepssmoku: any chance you could add [mer-general] prefix subject to the mailing list?13:17
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smokusure, no problem13:24
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smokuStskeeps: for *-commits lists too?13:31
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Stskeepssmoku: yeah i guess13:49
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dm8tbrStskeeps: arm just announced armv8, time to clean up the mess in obs ;)17:03
Stskeepsdm8tbr: yeah.. my first reaction was "you have got to be kidding me"17:04
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dm8tbrhm AES and SHA in the core instruction set, that might have the benefit that you don't get the proprietary TI extension crap17:09
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dm8tbrmmhh, serious BS-bingo material17:10
dm8tbrcomes with VMM/hypervisor support17:10
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Bostikabout time to make crypto acceleration a first-class native operation17:11
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Stskeepsdm8tbr: actually there's omap3 aes/sha drivers now i think17:12
dm8tbryeah, but it took a while for them to surface17:12
dm8tbrdidn't they come from nokia actually?17:13
dm8tbr  4  * Support for OMAP AES HW acceleration.17:14
dm8tbr  5  *17:14
dm8tbr  6  * Copyright (c) 2010 Nokia Corporation17:14
dm8tbr  7  * Author: Dmitry Kasatkin <>17:14
Stskeepsexactly :P17:14
Stskeepssome good aegis did come with17:14
vgradetodays job, , another Mer target, trimslice17:30
Stskeepslbt: easiest way to locate a commit's parent?17:31
Stskeepsvgrade: cool17:31
sebsaueramazing work vgrade17:32
vgradesebsauer, just another tegra build really17:32
sebsauerI am impressed how fast after the initial meeting something demoable came out of it. Really cool17:34
sebsauervgrade: that btw also includes Calligra Active or is it Plasma Active only atm?17:35
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sebsauer_back, %&$% TP-Link router :-/17:48
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vgradesebsauer_, the caligra apps are not in this image at the moment17:51
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lbtStskeeps: add a ^ to the commit id17:52
lbtmerges have 2 parents of course...17:54
lbtor more17:55
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* Stskeeps ponders idly17:55
sebsauer_vgrade: okeli, thanks17:55
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vgradesebsauer_, I think there were some issues building for ARM targets but I know it works as I saw a video  on N95017:56
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Stskeepslbt: will i go to hell if i add functionality to fakeobs that basically allows stuff like.. Core:i586:acl=SHA1    , giving the repo as if Core:i586's acl package had SHA1 as commit?17:59
faenilto everyone: is there any "open" tablet which I can use to play with any OS I want?17:59
Stskeepsie, to do a simple QA run, you simply linkpac from that project..17:59
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Stskeepsactually, i don't even need to do that.. hmm..18:01
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lbtwas going to say : it sounds reasonable to me - I need to get my head around how fakeobs fits into things18:02
lbtnb .. we're going to be doing an upgrade to c.obs tonight18:02
Stskeepsno problem for me, i just backed CE up earlier18:02
lbtI expect we'll be doing a snapshot and rolling back later18:03
lbtwe may try a few builds and if it's good there's a chance we'll leave it18:03
sebsauer_vgrade: yes, it's on the N9 and regulary build but probably not the complete codebase (means not all plugins). Are you using calligra master? I could give it a try. Since I've no ARM-hw beside my N8 which I still need (so, no testing there :-) ) what do you suggest? OBS or qemu?18:05
sebsauer_ah, nevermind. I see the channel-topic :)18:05
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sebsauer_hmmm... so, COBS?18:07
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vgradesebsauer_, there are some packages on COBS but the last time I looked they were only building for x86.  I'll have a check now18:09
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vgradeah ok looks to be now building OK against Mer, I will add to next trimslice and vega builds18:11
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sebsauer_great, will try, thanks18:11
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lbtcommunity OBS going down for scheduled maintenance18:28
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araujolbt, there?20:01
lbtbusy ... OBS upgrade20:05
araujolbt, nice... just brief question ... does BOSS send messages for accepted commits to the nemo mailing list?? ....20:08
* araujo sits and waits20:09
lbtit should, yes20:09
* araujo will check after COBS is up again20:10
lbtwhat ST?20:10
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araujolbt, SR#2778 / SR#277920:11
lbtfrom bossbot  :BOSS suggests accepting this review. See email for more details20:13
lbtso you're waiting on sage20:14
araujolbt, yeah, mm... though the "request" is not shown in the COBS panel ... so BOSS removes it from there for review?20:16
araujothat is pretty much my doubt20:16
lbtwell, it's down right now :)20:17
araujolbt, I didn't see it before either (yesterday)20:17
lbtit could screw with access control .... remind me when it's back - could be a bug20:18
araujosure ... good, yeah it is fine, will check when it is up again20:18
araujothanks lbt++20:18
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arnetAnybody knows is it still possible to det an n950 as a developer?20:56
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Venemohey guys21:01
faenilhey Venemo21:01
faenilgood night peopel21:03
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VenemoI was thinking about a way to decorate my bag. and then came the idea. would you guys mind if I had a badge made with a Mer logo?21:04
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lbtStskeeps: .... * Mer : présentation plus complète et approfondissement .... :)21:07
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arnetVenemo: isn't it under creative commons?21:09
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Venemoarnet, dunno, that's why I'm asking21:21
arnetVenemo: hmmm, Content is available under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License.21:23
arnetVenemo: if you take it from the wiki21:23
arnetVenemo: you can be safe :)21:24
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Venemothanks :)21:28
ScriptRipperlbt: fun, isnt it ?21:31
arnetAnd after all, it's not redhat to "protect its artwork" in order to prevent redistribution :)21:31
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* araujo notices new features in the web interface21:49
araujolbt, it looks nice there, though... it doesn't show in my home request page ...21:49
lbtwell- it's still under maintenance - we shoulda locked it21:49
lbtwe may rollback - just a warning21:49
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