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| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: I knew that there was an new release of the BSP coming, this time for linux | 04:06 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: I think android already had GLES | 04:06 |
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| harbaum | so quiet ... | 12:06 |
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| kyb3R | *clickety-click* people are working :) | 12:06 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, spreading the mer word in prague :P | 12:07 |
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| iekku | \o/ | 12:08 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, that's good | 12:08 |
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| lilstevie | Stskeeps: now the word of mer needs to be spread to device manafacturers | 12:16 |
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| Stskeeps | lilstevie: i think we have earth near things to fix first | 12:17 |
| lilstevie | Stskeeps: heh | 12:19 |
| araujo | Stskeeps, nice++ | 12:20 |
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| harbaum | Stupid ssh ... have shut down the server at home grr ... wrong window ... | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | woops :P | 12:27 |
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| X-Fade | harbaum: molly-guard | 12:29 |
| X-Fade | harbaum: Helps prevent things like that. | 12:29 |
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| harbaum | X-Fade: Now installed :-) | 12:48 |
| X-Fade | harbaum: Hehe, at least it won't happen another time then. | 12:48 |
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| harbaum | Yes. Luckily the "wake-on-wife" was working | 12:49 |
| harbaum | (sounding rather bizarre now that i read this ...) | 12:49 |
| dm8tbr | just call it remote-hands, sounds prrrrofessional ;) | 12:55 |
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| Venemo_N950 | hi | 14:19 |
| Venemo_N950 | what's up? | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | watching vgrade give a talk about device adaptaiton | 14:20 |
| lilstevie | Stskeeps: that sounds interesting | 14:20 |
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| Stskeeps | it is, i think he should do a webcast of this done sometime | 14:20 |
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| Jucato | videos should (and I say that in the sense of "they should make it") be available after the event | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | of the individual sessions? oh dear | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:39 |
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| lilstevie | sounds like an aweful lot of bandwidth | 14:43 |
| Jucato | Stskeeps: probably only the ones in the schedule | 14:44 |
| Jucato | (on the linuxcon page I mean) | 14:44 |
| berndhs | and make sure the presenters' shoes are in focus this time | 14:48 |
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| bigbluehat | hi yeah, is anyone here tracking Yocto? http://www.yoctoproject.org/ | 17:53 |
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| Stskeeps | bigbluehat: yes, good people | 18:17 |
| bigbluehat | didn't know if some sort of build UI like Hub would be helpful matched with Mer | 18:23 |
| bigbluehat | perhaps making it easier to build a custom Mer distro with various UI's, toolkits, etc. | 18:23 |
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| harbaum | Plasma Active/Mer booting on Beagle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs3RnK9aHXk | 18:53 |
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| Stskeeps | harbaum: congrats :) | 19:07 |
| harbaum | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0t4sqG2Ueo | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | would watch but on n950 and my ideapad refuses to boot :P | 19:10 |
| harbaum | video was actually captured with a n950 | 19:11 |
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| tripzero | harbaum, awesome! | 19:28 |
| tripzero | hw accel? | 19:28 |
| tripzero | looks like it is | 19:29 |
| harbaum | sure | 19:29 |
| tripzero | prolly softfp ? | 19:29 |
| harbaum | yepp | 19:29 |
| harbaum | basically my old meego setup, just based on mer this time | 19:30 |
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| tripzero | nice | 19:30 |
| harbaum | but plasma active is pretty resource hungry. boots 5min and can barely live with 256 MB ram | 19:31 |
| tripzero | harbaum, are you publishing images somewhere? | 19:31 |
| harbaum | ye | 19:31 |
| harbaum | s | 19:31 |
| tripzero | i wouldn't mind trying it on my igep | 19:31 |
| harbaum | http://bug10738.openaos.org/images/beagleboard/ | 19:31 |
| tripzero | thx | 19:34 |
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| Stskeeps | harbaum: 5min startup is seen on tegra2 too.. supposedly basyskom will throw someone at the problem | 19:37 |
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| * tripzero watches as basyskom bounces off the problem | 19:42 | |
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| * Stskeeps ponders what to hack on | 19:44 | |
| Stskeeps | biggest problem for me with conferences is that i get a boost of wanting to hack | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | so, positive elements of today: having nice talks with people and having a few minutes in Dawn's Tizen community talk to talk a little about Mer | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | so, successfully | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | er, succesful day | 19:47 |
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| pdanek | Stskeeps: have you been paid developer for MeeGo project? or community effort only? | 20:14 |
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| Stskeeps | pdanek: i've been paid for my meego on n900/arm work and still am, but honestly, used a lot more time than i got paid for :P | 20:17 |
| Bostik | iow. got paid for doing what would have done in any case | 20:18 |
| Bostik | victory++ | 20:18 |
| pdanek | Stskeeps: so you are now waiting for some offer from Intel or Samsung for Tizen project? :) | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | pdanek: nah, right now i'm exploring opportunities, Mer is one of them :) | 20:21 |
| pdanek | Stskeeps: you think Mer is really a chance to do something big? | 20:21 |
| pdanek | Stskeeps: I mean transform into something that you can do fulltime and get nice money? | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | pdanek: i think of Mer as a basis for a lot of other possibilities | 20:22 |
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| Stskeeps | (not just for me, but for many) | 20:29 |
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| vgrade | harbaum. cool | 20:43 |
| vgrade | 5 min boot not just the tegra then | 20:45 |
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| tripzero | vgrade, what tegra2 board do you use? | 21:00 |
| tripzero | and what touchscreen was that i saw in your plasma active apps tegra2 video? | 21:00 |
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| vgrade | Advent Vega tablet. you can pick it up from Dixons/PC World in the UK | 21:01 |
| vgrade | We are also running on early (pre lockdown) Asus Transformers | 21:01 |
| vgrade | I'm sure it will run fine also on trimslice | 21:02 |
| tripzero | mmm | 21:02 |
| tripzero | trimslice looks cool | 21:03 |
| tripzero | what's the gpu driver situation with tegra? | 21:03 |
| tripzero | as messy as pvr? | 21:03 |
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| vgrade | no, good, Nvidia came up with the goods for trimslice and they are working fine everywhere else on Tegra, just need the right kernel interface to match the userspace. Just like all gpus | 21:04 |
| tripzero | nice | 21:05 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, had a word with sebas and notmart in #active earlier. Asked them about ram usage and they were surprised at the amount. Seems something has regressed recently in that area. | 22:12 |
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| vgrade | they test on laptops and ExoPc which has 2Gb so had not noticed the increases recently | 22:12 |
| vgrade | they have some ideas, theme cache was one | 22:13 |
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| YavkatA | Will Mer work on Exyons-based devices once the driver gets merged? | 23:18 |
| wmarone_ | don't see why not | 23:19 |
| wmarone_ | now whether you'll get full support depends on whether or not Samsung steps up with any necessary blobs | 23:20 |
| wmarone_ | and given mer will (eventually) pull from Tizen, I certainly hope they do | 23:20 |
| YavkatA | As far as I know the Exynos SoC driver is open-source | 23:27 |
| wmarone_ | it should be, but that's only part of the problem | 23:27 |
| YavkatA | I am considering buying the Samsung i9100 and playing with it | 23:28 |
| YavkatA | what blobs do we need? | 23:28 |
| wmarone_ | samsung has been pushing exynos drivers to the kernel, but you still need a board support file and drivers for the peripherals | 23:28 |
| wmarone_ | beyond the graphics driver, not sure | 23:28 |
| YavkatA | aha.. | 23:28 |
| YavkatA | There's a driver for X | 23:28 |
| wmarone_ | a driver for X doesn't get you proper hardware support though | 23:29 |
| YavkatA | but I'm not sure about ALSA | 23:29 |
| wmarone_ | you end up having a CPU burn cycles drawing everything slowly | 23:29 |
| wmarone_ | cellular interface possibly, I think there's at least one NFC chip that has only a closed user space binary | 23:29 |
| wmarone_ | not sure if the i9100 uses it | 23:29 |
| wmarone_ | most drivers are available on whatever old kernel that is available on the i9100 already | 23:30 |
| YavkatA | damn, it would be so awesome to have a phone with fully open hardware | 23:30 |
| wmarone_ | yes it would | 23:30 |
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| YavkatA | I've been waiting for that for like 4 years, and I'm starting to give up | 23:30 |
| wmarone_ | well, don't give up or all you'll get are iPhones and WP7 devices ;P | 23:30 |
| YavkatA | yeah... I'm just tired of waiting... I sait to myself that my next phone is gonna be a fully open Linux phone | 23:31 |
| YavkatA | and thus I haven't bough a new phone in 4 years.. | 23:32 |
| YavkatA | waiting for the miracle | 23:32 |
| wmarone_ | I jumped on with the N900 | 23:33 |
| wmarone_ | and it's... 75% of the way there | 23:33 |
| wmarone_ | moreso with Mer/Nemo | 23:33 |
| YavkatA | I know... I would buy it right now if it wasn't so outdated hardware-wise | 23:33 |
| wmarone_ | yup | 23:34 |
| wmarone_ | had mine since Dec. 09, so it's been a while | 23:34 |
| YavkatA | what do you think about N9? | 23:34 |
| wmarone_ | pondering an N9, but gonna wait and see how Mer/Nemo unfold on it first | 23:34 |
| wmarone_ | no keyboard/sd card slot make me sad | 23:34 |
| YavkatA | yeah.. that's a bummer | 23:35 |
| wmarone_ | but otherwise it's a slick design | 23:35 |
| YavkatA | yeah.. too bad Nokia jumped ship | 23:36 |
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| YavkatA | it's like.. they start building a Linux platform.. they wait till it's almost mature | 23:36 |
| YavkatA | and then they abandon it | 23:36 |
| wmarone_ | well, they're still selling it so they haven't jumped yet | 23:36 |
| YavkatA | it almost looks like sabotage | 23:36 |
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