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djszapi | Hi! bugs.meego.com is down here. Is that expected ? | 00:39 |
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jonnor_work | not responding here either | 00:48 |
jonnor_work | ask Meego people if it is expected or not | 00:48 |
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iekku | morning | 03:18 |
berndhs | howdy | 03:18 |
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djszapi | iekku: do you plan to come to the Fruct10 event in Tampere ? | 04:02 |
dcthang | howdy | 04:07 |
dm8tbr | mrng | 04:16 |
Jucato | msng vwls nw? | 04:17 |
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Sage | morning | 04:30 |
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Jucato | noon | 04:32 |
Stskeeps | zzzz | 04:34 |
Jucato | coffee coffee coffee! | 04:35 |
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dm8tbr | caffeine++ indeed | 04:42 |
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iekku | djszapi, what's that? | 04:43 |
djszapi | iekku: https://meego.com/community/events/2011/fruct-10-conference | 04:44 |
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iekku | djszapi, need to think about that | 04:45 |
iekku | djszapi, not sure if i can leave work to participate... | 04:46 |
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djszapi | understandable. | 04:46 |
iekku | but sounds interesting | 04:46 |
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Stskeeps | djszapi: saw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5-setgsIfY ? | 04:46 |
djszapi | Stskeeps: not yet, cool. :) | 04:48 |
djszapi | Stskeeps: can the meego package be more or less re-usable from meego on Mer ? | 04:48 |
djszapi | packages* | 04:48 |
Stskeeps | djszapi: sortof, we've stripped some things so people may need to provide own of some packages | 04:48 |
Stskeeps | djszapi: we'd like people to really think about dependancies | 04:48 |
djszapi | because packaging KDE is a huge job, 5-6 people work on that in case Debian. | 04:48 |
Stskeeps | you can reuse packaging, same format | 04:49 |
Stskeeps | there's no GTK in mer, as an example | 04:49 |
djszapi | mmm, qt depends on glib2 | 04:49 |
Stskeeps | glib is fine | 04:49 |
Stskeeps | i just said no gtk :P | 04:49 |
djszapi | okay. We also use gconf iirc from KDE until dconf gets used everywhere by us or so. | 04:50 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 04:50 |
djszapi | in KDE* | 04:50 |
Stskeeps | dm8tbr: could you send the naming list to me and i'll pass it on to rest of SG guys? | 04:50 |
Stskeeps | just so we have some time | 04:50 |
dm8tbr | Stskeeps: yes, let me export that right now | 04:51 |
Stskeeps | thanks | 04:52 |
djszapi | Stskeeps: mmm, once there are available plasma active packages by using the Mer distribution system: Do those packages need porting efforts (apart from different qml profile for the Ui) ? | 04:52 |
djszapi | among devices. | 04:53 |
Stskeeps | djszapi: not really, that's really in hardware adaptations | 04:53 |
Stskeeps | djszapi: they build against qt and core libraries, so | 04:53 |
dm8tbr | "164 responses for this survey" nice | 04:54 |
djszapi | okay, thanks. Is there any "community repository" in place already for Mer ? Is it an ongoing activity yet ? | 04:54 |
Stskeeps | djszapi: everyone is free to organise | 04:55 |
Stskeeps | djszapi: we're thinking of a 'tools' repository for some things that's just useful, while shouldn't be part of core | 04:55 |
djszapi | okay. Which init script system was chosen for Mer ? | 04:57 |
Stskeeps | systemd | 04:57 |
Stskeeps | we're forked from meego 1.3, so | 04:57 |
Stskeeps | it works quite well | 04:57 |
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Stskeeps | (compared to the old stuff) | 04:57 |
djszapi | so no upstart. | 04:58 |
Stskeeps | correct | 04:58 |
Stskeeps | systemd is also a dependancy startup thing though :) | 04:58 |
djszapi | =) | 04:58 |
dm8tbr | 515 points assigned in total | 04:59 |
djszapi | are there people working on the N950/N9 hardware adaptation or is it a new segment yet ? | 04:59 |
Stskeeps | djszapi: i'm assigned to N900 adaptation and we're getting that working first, then we port the N950/N9 one | 04:59 |
Stskeeps | we can pretty much recompile the packages so | 05:00 |
djszapi | We can write Plasma component based applications during the KDE Harmattan sprint without having the plasma active workspace (because that is probably not allowed by the system security policies, but needs research for saying it surely). Later, it would be nice to get Mer + PA work on those devices and just re-use those applications. | 05:01 |
Stskeeps | :nod: no idea when plasma active is useful on top of mer | 05:02 |
Stskeeps | but we'll get hardware adaptations working for the CE stuff | 05:02 |
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Stskeeps | HELP REVIEW MER MODIFICATIONS: http://monster.tspre.org:8080/ - make an account, click "All | 05:02 |
Stskeeps | " -> "Open" and review the packaging changes | 05:02 |
djszapi | I have seen the N900 CE + PA video previously, and now this tablet version. Does it mean we have working packages or were they compiled and built from source manually ? | 05:03 |
Stskeeps | N900 CE+PA you have to ask timoph about | 05:03 |
Stskeeps | tablet one is compiled in COBS somewhere | 05:04 |
djszapi | thanks. :) | 05:06 |
djszapi | X-Fade ping, https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=kdebase-runtime&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard -> but, libasound2-dev should be available from the public Nokia repository: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/free/a/alsa-lib/alsa-lib_1.0.24.1-0meego2+0m6.dsc | 05:07 |
djszapi | Stskeeps: is it possible to use Mer on other gadgets, like HTC Desire ? | 05:08 |
djszapi | I mean theoritically, not right now practically. | 05:08 |
Stskeeps | djszapi: you can even use it on nokia n800 - we plan on providing llvmpipe for those that doesn't have good GLES | 05:09 |
djszapi | oh, that is sweet. =) | 05:09 |
Sage | Stskeeps: do you have list of the packages that were requierd by qt-mobility and qtwebkit somewhere+ | 05:11 |
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Stskeeps | Sage: home:stskeeps:qtmobilitywebkit | 05:12 |
Stskeeps | Sage: also on review on gerrit | 05:13 |
Sage | Stskeeps: I have updates to some of thsoe packges in home:sage:Mer:MW:Shared | 05:16 |
Stskeeps | Sage: since yesterday? i copypaced from you | 05:16 |
srikanth_rst | morning | 05:17 |
Stskeeps | morn srikanth_rst | 05:17 |
Sage | Stskeeps: well I made changes yesterday and I though you said you didn't copypac from me :D | 05:17 |
srikanth_rst | Stskeeps: are we haveing any Mer images some where | 05:17 |
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Stskeeps | Sage: ah, i did | 05:17 |
Stskeeps | <- lazy | 05:18 |
Stskeeps | srikanth_rst: we're at hardware adaptation level, when we have CE on top i'll poke you | 05:18 |
srikanth_rst | ok, thanks | 05:18 |
Stskeeps | as we need to see if things regressed in the rebase (they may have) | 05:18 |
Sage | Stskeeps: I'm worried about gst-plugins-bad and pulseaudio | 05:19 |
Stskeeps | Sage: what about them? | 05:19 |
Stskeeps | well, besides PA's insane patch set | 05:19 |
Sage | well, PA 1.0 version has been release d: ) | 05:19 |
Stskeeps | mm | 05:20 |
Sage | and yes patches in pa so mcuh | 05:20 |
Stskeeps | that's one of the areas i'd like to see tizen's move ;) | 05:20 |
Sage | also the gst-plugins-bad contains a lot of the camera hacks from both intel and arm sides | 05:20 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:20 |
Stskeeps | still those aren't so much hacks, but camerabin stuff | 05:20 |
Stskeeps | i think we should register the thoughts in the merge proposals, so we keep track of it somehow | 05:21 |
Sage | the current gst-plugins-bad that is on theyour repository doesn't contain the patches for n900 /n950 so we need to fork it in the adaptation :/ | 05:24 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:24 |
Sage | also because those camera patches break camera on ia32 | 05:24 |
Stskeeps | that's ok | 05:24 |
Stskeeps | i do provide sources in fakeobs for a reason | 05:24 |
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Stskeeps | are we going to provide patterns in CE:HW: or are we going to make actual repo builds? | 05:28 |
Sage | each adaptation should provide their own pattern | 05:30 |
Stskeeps | yeah, but i mean, how we're planning on doing adaptation releases :) rsync'ing the OBS output, applying package groups? | 05:31 |
dm8tbr | Stskeeps: pdf and 'raw' data attached and will be sent in about 15min (once I turn on VPN in the office) | 05:32 |
Sage | I have requested a boss feature where boss extracts the package grops from the specific package and applies those to the obs | 05:33 |
Stskeeps | dm8tbr: k | 05:33 |
Stskeeps | Sage: ok | 05:33 |
Sage | so those package grops wold be in OBS output repo | 05:33 |
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slonopotamus | do you have any single day when you don't need to fight obs? | 05:35 |
Stskeeps | we're not fighting it. | 05:35 |
Stskeeps | just utilizing it | 05:35 |
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Sage | I really hope we get repos in order during this week so image builds can start | 05:36 |
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Stskeeps | Sage: same here | 05:36 |
Sage | CE:Adaptation:N900 ? | 05:37 |
Stskeeps | right | 05:37 |
Sage | And CE:Adaptation:N950-N9 | 05:38 |
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Sage | ah, new boss test just came to me. | 05:39 |
* Sage goes to do package | 05:39 | |
Stskeeps | grr | 05:40 |
* Stskeeps managed to do a stupid thing | 05:40 | |
Stskeeps | brb | 05:40 |
* Sage is unable to contact monster so I wonder what is ^ :) | 05:41 | |
Stskeeps | nah, just managed to nuke my own copy of meego.com | 05:46 |
Stskeeps | trunk | 05:46 |
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w00t | :P | 05:46 |
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vgrade | morning | 05:57 |
jukkaeklund | hello | 05:59 |
Stskeeps | morn jukka, vgrade | 06:00 |
Sage | morning jukkaeklund vgrade | 06:04 |
Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: saw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5-setgsIfY ? | 06:04 |
jukkaeklund | Stskeeps, yes | 06:04 |
Stskeeps | good | 06:04 |
jukkaeklund | when can I try that on N950 :p | 06:04 |
Stskeeps | i'm doing n900 hw adaptation first :P | 06:05 |
dm8tbr | jukkaeklund: have you seen that there is a manual way to boot CE without having moslo? a guy figured it out with some help on #meego-arm | 06:06 |
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Stskeeps | yeah, he figured it out on his own after i passed my initrd for emmc export over usb along :P | 06:06 |
Stskeeps | (on N9) | 06:07 |
jukkaeklund | sure, thats not a problem | 06:07 |
jukkaeklund | open device implies that | 06:07 |
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jukkaeklund | instuctions without moslo could be put on wiki too | 06:08 |
jukkaeklund | also dual boot should be possible to figure | 06:08 |
Stskeeps | http://jon.severinsson.net/N9CE/ | 06:09 |
vgrade | Stskeeps, can that be used on N950? | 06:10 |
dm8tbr | Stskeeps: and I told him that the partition to nuke is what's mounted as MyData ;) | 06:10 |
Stskeeps | vgrade: probably, but MOSLO might be a better choice | 06:10 |
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jukkaeklund | cool | 06:11 |
jukkaeklund | though before there is the N9 OCF package available, I wouldn't advertise that too much.. | 06:12 |
vgrade | Stskeeps, yea, just looked at the instructions. Is MOSLO incomming | 06:12 |
Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: yeah, true | 06:12 |
w00t | vgrade: it's always coming™ | 06:12 |
w00t | real soon now™ | 06:12 |
jukkaeklund | coming to what? | 06:12 |
w00t | :) | 06:12 |
jukkaeklund | N950 is there now, and N9 "real soon" | 06:13 |
Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: did we update the wiki with pointers to the page? | 06:13 |
jukkaeklund | related to the OCF as well | 06:13 |
dm8tbr | jukkaeklund: yeah, we already have one person 'waiting' on #harmattan ;) | 06:13 |
jukkaeklund | Stskeeps, yes feel free to check | 06:13 |
Stskeeps | well then | 06:13 |
Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950 | 06:13 |
jukkaeklund | all good now | 06:14 |
w00t | oh hey | 06:14 |
w00t | it's actually, really published now? | 06:14 |
jukkaeklund | I wanted to publish that wider after our meeting today | 06:14 |
w00t | why did nobody tell me this | 06:14 |
jukkaeklund | along with the new name (I hope) | 06:14 |
jukkaeklund | w00t, there is a handy 'watch' feature in wiki.. | 06:14 |
dm8tbr | hehe | 06:15 |
vgrade | ok, lets have a go with that tehn | 06:15 |
jukkaeklund | yeah, its nice and easy | 06:16 |
jukkaeklund | I'll try that N9 dual boot.. | 06:16 |
Mordae[n900] | Morning. | 06:16 |
jukkaeklund | Stskeeps, btw is #meego-arm still the official CE channel or is everybody here now anyway? | 06:17 |
Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: i think #meego-arm is still official CE home, we can set up a new one once we have a new name | 06:18 |
jukkaeklund | yep | 06:19 |
dm8tbr | .oO(23 nanoseconds later several people tried to join 96 channels at once) | 06:19 |
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jukkaeklund | about name.. looks like it should include mer | 06:20 |
dm8tbr | at least that's what people seem to think | 06:20 |
dm8tbr | you can still call it pinkPonyOS | 06:20 |
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jukkaeklund | which leads to thinking 'mer handset' would be an easy solution | 06:21 |
dm8tbr | that's 12,2% of votes | 06:21 |
Stskeeps | yeah.. but i don't want that for various reasons - mermaid or mermate signifies a basis upon but not 'the', mer handset would imply it's well, mer handset | 06:21 |
w00t | jukkaeklund: you should also keep in mind that mer doesn't want that, though | 06:21 |
Stskeeps | so i'm more inclined towards those | 06:21 |
jukkaeklund | yep, thats what I was wondering | 06:22 |
jukkaeklund | better to achieve supremacy handset release with deliverables than name | 06:22 |
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Jucato | (the next name for the "MeeGo^WMer CE"?) | 06:23 |
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vgrade | timoph, I've linked the image and ks on http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Community_Workspace#User_Experience_UX . I've also added a link to Mer Cordia HD imaage from smoku | 06:25 |
Stskeeps | dm8tbr: i don't suppose you have ability to graph how it would look if *mer* wasn't in play? | 06:27 |
dm8tbr | Stskeeps: you mean remove every entry that contains 'mer? | 06:30 |
dm8tbr | rm *mer* so to say? | 06:30 |
dm8tbr | should I also match Meer and such? | 06:30 |
Stskeeps | mm, possibly | 06:30 |
Stskeeps | i just want to see how the field looks then | 06:31 |
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jukkaeklund | stskeeps, so you wouldn't want to see 'mer' in the name? | 06:43 |
Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: i think mer-puns are okay like mermaid, just not "mer XXXXX" | 06:43 |
Stskeeps | we can have a lot of fun with puns :P | 06:43 |
jukkaeklund | yep | 06:44 |
jukkaeklund | I'm all for pun and if it brings some mascot or logo idea along, even better | 06:44 |
dm8tbr | Stskeeps: I removed everything that contained the string match m(.e)r | 06:44 |
jukkaeklund | like mermaid | 06:44 |
Stskeeps | dm8tbr: yeah | 06:45 |
Stskeeps | dm8tbr: didn't yield much insight, i think the mer pun direction is okay | 06:46 |
jukkaeklund | mermaid spelled like that has lots of registered trademarks | 06:46 |
dm8tbr | I now have some work to do but will publish raw results and some of the graphs later | 06:46 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:46 |
Stskeeps | "The MERMAID project (Mobile Earthquake Recorder in Marine Areas by Independent Divers)" | 06:47 |
Stskeeps | excellent | 06:47 |
jukkaeklund | whereas mermate, mermade dont | 06:47 |
jukkaeklund | does mermade pronounce same as mermaid? | 06:47 |
Stskeeps | at least in my screwed up accent | 06:47 |
jukkaeklund | thats my fav | 06:48 |
jukkaeklund | might be just because of the exciting mental image I get from mermaid.. | 06:48 |
jukkaeklund | do mermaids wear lipstick? | 06:49 |
Jucato | made of algae | 06:49 |
w00t | i'd hope it's prettier lipstick than that | 06:50 |
Jucato | or squid/octopus ink | 06:50 |
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Jucato | has to be extra non-soluble in water | 06:50 |
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jukkaeklund | dm8tbr, there you go! | 06:50 |
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matrixx | I vote for mermade o/ | 06:57 |
Jucato | with the mascot: http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/966/465671-mermaidman_large.png | 07:00 |
jukkaeklund | does mermate mean something, like some substance? | 07:01 |
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jukkaeklund | Sage, any new image to try? | 07:05 |
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Stskeeps | of CE? we have some steps to complete still to get to a proper Mer rebase image - yesterday i got n900 hw adaptation going, right now we're just cleaning up things (adding package groups and such) so we can make proper images | 07:08 |
Stskeeps | hopefully this week | 07:08 |
jukkaeklund | ok-dokey | 07:08 |
Stskeeps | people can build against Mer in COBS and contribute easily now, so that's one milestone down | 07:08 |
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jukkaeklund | will first image work in all N9xx already, orjust N900? | 07:09 |
Mordae[n900] | Stskeeps: how far are you going with the N900? Just HW + Core, or complete CE? | 07:09 |
Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: n900 at first, it's trivial to add N950 afterwards | 07:10 |
Stskeeps | Mordae[n900]: Core+HW with battery charging and GLESv2 working | 07:10 |
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Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: i just haven't built the n950 packages yet :) | 07:10 |
jukkaeklund | sure | 07:11 |
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Mordae[n900] | Stskeeps: nice. I am afraid that this whole thingie is going to screw the way I spend my free time. | 07:14 |
Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: harbaum made a beagleboard port already of Mer, not sure why the video seems to skip on my pc, but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvbH5J296lg | 07:15 |
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Sage | jukkaeklund: during this week hopefully | 07:16 |
Stskeeps | Sage: how do we handle shared HW bits between n900 and n9xx? like sgx | 07:16 |
jukkaeklund | looks smooth from here | 07:16 |
w00t | that display stuff is wicked | 07:16 |
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jukkaeklund | marketing tip: make a default QML app that comes up when mer boots to qmlviewer | 07:17 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 07:17 |
Stskeeps | i was thinking something mer related | 07:17 |
Sage | Stskeeps: What about CE:Adaptations:ti-omap3 for example? | 07:17 |
harbaum | something taking advantage of video acceleration, please | 07:17 |
jukkaeklund | something that comes up like the Qt quick logo | 07:17 |
w00t | could always just have the mer background, and spin the mer logo around, making it pulse bigger and smaller or, or something ridiculous :P | 07:18 |
Stskeeps | Sage: too wide | 07:18 |
Stskeeps | possible, we do have the logo in SVG | 07:18 |
jukkaeklund | just something that pops up and makes these boot videos a bit cooler | 07:18 |
Stskeeps | which reminds me i need to do business cards.. | 07:18 |
jukkaeklund | because, first impression is everything etc.. | 07:18 |
Stskeeps | meego logo isn't erm, that fancy anymore.. | 07:19 |
jukkaeklund | next, some sound effects.. | 07:19 |
Stskeeps | we definately need to find some place to drop http://wiki.maemo.org/Image:Mer_Incompatible_Bootmenu_Shark.jpg | 07:19 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: hmm... need to think about that. But probably we should do some more generic things for certain chips. | 07:19 |
Stskeeps | Sage: right | 07:19 |
Sage | CE:Adaptation:ti:omap3:sgx | 07:20 |
Stskeeps | Sage: n9xx maybe, and then :n9 and :n900 :n950 | 07:20 |
Sage | yeah, well. then the bme etc. gets in the way if all are in same place | 07:20 |
Stskeeps | mm, true | 07:20 |
w00t | could start off with seperate projects and look at what you can merge up later | 07:21 |
harbaum | http://bug10738.openaos.org/images/beagleboard/ | 07:23 |
timoph | vgrade: thanks | 07:24 |
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harbaum | seems cordia is not ready for testing on armv7l :-( | 08:08 |
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Stskeeps | hopefully we should have lipstick running on Mer soon | 08:09 |
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harbaum | do we really need to build noarch packages through the arm emulation? That fails for hildon-theme-marina and the i586 build succeeds | 08:11 |
Stskeeps | due to various reasons we do - i do wonder why it crashes though | 08:12 |
jukkaeklund | Minoa (mer is not an acronym), recursion ftw! | 08:14 |
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lbt | mord suggested polymer | 08:15 |
lbt | or isomer | 08:15 |
harbaum | isomer is only for cd images | 08:16 |
dm8tbr | polymer only for dual-core and up SoC ;) | 08:16 |
lbt | we could call all our UXes isomers | 08:16 |
dm8tbr | nice idea | 08:16 |
smoku | lbt: http://cccbdb.nist.gov/cistrans.asp - plenty to choose from | 08:21 |
lbt | yep | 08:21 |
harbaum | sounds funny | 08:24 |
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mingwandroid | vgrade: morning | 08:27 |
vgrade | mingwandroid, morning | 08:32 |
mingwandroid | hey. aany luck with insmod ar6000? | 08:33 |
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harbaum | The funny thing is that qgil is behind the qt/qml demos on the raspberry pi. What os are they running below? | 08:37 |
Stskeeps | harbaum: nah, it's sirspudd | 08:38 |
Stskeeps | harbaum: they're basing it on top the debian image that comes with it | 08:38 |
Stskeeps | and cross compiling qt5 | 08:38 |
vgrade | mingwandroid, not tried it at day job | 08:39 |
harbaum | They claim it's mer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDLtn9DBqFw#! | 08:40 |
Stskeeps | that's our videos, it is mer | 08:40 |
Stskeeps | qt5 demo videos with GLESv2 is debian :) | 08:41 |
Stskeeps | Sage: http://monster.tspre.org/~merreleases/releases/0.20111018.6/builds/ now has package groups | 08:42 |
Stskeeps | Sage: i'd like to rename Core to Base and make Core == Base + the other groups + qt | 08:43 |
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dcthang | no the repos look fine -> good job! | 08:45 |
mingwandroid | bbiab. | 08:45 |
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w00t | Stskeeps: that terminology is a bit confusing, at least to me.. why not have something more descriptive like Core, QtCore (= Core + Qt) | 08:46 |
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Stskeeps | w00t: in relation to http://pastie.org/2716518 | 08:48 |
w00t | *nod* | 08:48 |
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niqt | morning | 09:13 |
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Jucato | "Meron" ... that's a variant of a word that means "There is a ..." in our language :) | 09:22 |
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slaine | hey folks | 09:29 |
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slaine | I can't delete my old Mer:Trunk:Base project | 09:32 |
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Stskeeps | what does it say? | 09:33 |
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slaine | via the webUI says it's an invalid project name | 09:37 |
slaine | via osc cmd it tells me that /standard repository depends on it | 09:37 |
slaine | but even with --recursive --force it still fails | 09:37 |
slaine | uncaught exception: undefined method `repositories' for nil:NilClass | 09:38 |
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slaine | Stskeeps: what should happen between steps 6 and 7 to allow step 7 to happen, where step 7 == "osc checkout fakeobs:Core:i586 acl" | 10:03 |
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dcthang | Do we still Meego SDK to develop apps in Mer? | 10:06 |
dcthang | *still use | 10:06 |
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dcthang | or it 's not defined yet? | 10:06 |
slaine | dcthang: I think that's probably one of the targets, but Mer is the equivalent of Meego:Core | 10:07 |
Stskeeps | slaine: give me 20 mins and im home at desktop | 10:07 |
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slaine | Stskeeps: sure, thanks | 10:07 |
dcthang | slaine: yes, looks like no info for that yet. Mer = Meego Core + ... | 10:09 |
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Stskeeps | dcthang: how would you like to see mer sdk? | 10:10 |
slaine | + qt/qml but no defined UX | 10:10 |
Stskeeps | like, what should it consist of | 10:10 |
Sage | Stskeeps: ok, would also xorg move out of base? | 10:11 |
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dcthang | Stskeeps: i want to know how it is different comparing with the old one for Meego | 10:11 |
dcthang | and of course when the platform is ready, it should have SDK for that ready too | 10:12 |
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faenil | good morning everyone :) | 10:13 |
Stskeeps | dcthang: so, we dont really have a proper sdk story yet, but qt sdk seems relevant | 10:16 |
Stskeeps | faenil: yes, moslo is out, have fun | 10:17 |
kakashi_ | steff, btw, I can give a helping hand for n900 adaptation | 10:17 |
Stskeeps | dcthang: so thats why i am trying to gather requirements | 10:17 |
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kakashi_ | let me know if there is a wiki/anything like that | 10:17 |
Stskeeps | kakashi_: cool, we can mostly reuse meego parts | 10:17 |
kakashi_ | sure | 10:18 |
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kakashi_ | is there a trac/wiki/any ticketing system? | 10:18 |
steff | kakashi_: I'd need an n900 first :-) | 10:18 |
kakashi_ | steff, which is a bit difficult to get, i think, nokia will hand you an n9 (n950 is also a bit far fetched) | 10:19 |
Stskeeps | kakashi_: we had a dns hiccup so we only have wiki right now, N900/N950/N9 adaptations are done in the community edition effort | 10:19 |
kakashi_ | cool | 10:19 |
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kakashi_ | Stskeeps, so basically as of now it is just a meego port? | 10:20 |
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Stskeeps | kakashi_: right, so, mer is a core derived from meego 1.3, with focusing on being minimal and portable, so there is no hardware adaptations in the core or UXes - we (in community edition) provide the hw adaptation and we can practically reuse our existing meego port | 10:22 |
kakashi_ | aha | 10:23 |
Stskeeps | what area would you like to contribute in? | 10:23 |
kakashi_ | sound/pulse audio or related | 10:25 |
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Stskeeps | sounds cool :) | 10:28 |
dcthang | Stskeeps: so you are collecting them for Mer SDK making ?:) | 10:29 |
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Stskeeps | dcthang: well, for establish how the story should be yes | 10:30 |
Stskeeps | kakashi_: i must warn you that we have something along lines of maemo audio stack :) | 10:30 |
arnet | Am. I would say, SDK is just a qemu image, or scratchbox, some emulator with gcc installed. User can choose the framework and install it with zypper or apt-get. | 10:30 |
Stskeeps | arnet: i think we can actually do quite a fair bit with even a x86 vm | 10:31 |
kakashi_ | Stskeeps, that should be fine, I would try adapting to that and then porting it | 10:31 |
Stskeeps | slaine: ok, i'm back | 10:32 |
slaine | cool | 10:32 |
slaine | Stskeeps: what should happen between steps 6 and 7 to allow step 7 to happen, where step 7 == "osc checkout fakeobs:Core:i586 acl" | 10:32 |
Stskeeps | slaine: does your OBS web interface have a big fat button with 'setup obs'? | 10:32 |
slaine | Yes, did that for step 5 | 10:32 |
slaine | osc list shows "fakeobs" | 10:32 |
Stskeeps | slaine: osc meta prj fakeobs and pastebin, please | 10:33 |
slaine | http://pastebin.com/FBBLQ1mZ | 10:34 |
Stskeeps | slaine: you know vi? :) | 10:34 |
slaine | hell yeah | 10:34 |
slaine | that's my C IDE | 10:34 |
slaine | :) | 10:34 |
Stskeeps | slaine: osc meta prj -e fakeobs edit <remoteurl> line to be <remoteurl>http://mervm.labs.lincor.com:8001/public</remoteurl> | 10:34 |
Stskeeps | verify it's the correct link by 'curl http://mervm.labs.lincor.com:8001/public/Core:i586' | 10:35 |
slaine | ah, got that backwards | 10:35 |
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slaine | Stskeeps: yeah, getting a 404 on Core:i586 | 10:40 |
Stskeeps | slaine: interesting | 10:40 |
Stskeeps | slaine: you should see something in fakeobs output | 10:40 |
Stskeeps | like, in the output from python fakeobs.py | 10:41 |
slaine | Yeah, it's just 404 path stuff | 10:42 |
slaine | 404: path | 10:42 |
slaine | obsvm.labs.lincor.com - - [18/Oct/2011 11:41:42] code 404, message File not found | 10:42 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 10:42 |
Stskeeps | before that, any exceptions? | 10:42 |
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slaine | nope | 10:42 |
Stskeeps | ls -l obs-projects in fakeobs pwd | 10:42 |
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Stskeeps | is Core there? | 10:44 |
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slaine | Yup, and all the subdirs | 10:46 |
slaine | what dir is fakeobs expected to be run from ? | 10:47 |
slaine | am in releast-tools | 10:47 |
slaine | release-tools | 10:47 |
Stskeeps | slaine: mappings.xml is there too? | 10:49 |
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Stskeeps | (just trying to debug where things go wrong) | 10:50 |
Stskeeps | oh duh | 10:50 |
Stskeeps | curl http://mervm.labs.lincor.com:8001/public/source/Core:i586 | 10:50 |
slaine | haha, yes | 10:51 |
Stskeeps | works? | 10:51 |
slaine | yup | 10:51 |
Stskeeps | good | 10:52 |
Stskeeps | osc ls fakeobs:Core:i586 should work now then | 10:52 |
faenil | Stskeeps: morning :) how's the work going? :D | 10:53 |
Stskeeps | faenil: wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950 | 10:53 |
slaine | Stskeeps: yeah, checkouts working now, obviously my screw up with the the port appended to the wrong place | 10:53 |
faenil | Stskeeps: downloading image :D :D :D | 10:53 |
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faenil | Stskeeps: I see you went for the raw way at the end :) | 10:55 |
slaine | Stskeeps: so where do I go from here ? | 11:00 |
slaine | It was this next part that I got stuck on the last time | 11:00 |
Stskeeps | slaine: your login on obs is Admin? | 11:01 |
slaine | I've my own Admin level login | 11:01 |
Stskeeps | ok | 11:02 |
slaine | What's the theory | 11:02 |
Stskeeps | osc copypac Core:i586 acl home:yourlogin | 11:02 |
slaine | i.e.t he high level goal | 11:02 |
slaine | So, my obsvm is going to use fakeobs as a seed to bootstrap a full rebuild | 11:03 |
slaine | ? | 11:03 |
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slaine | And then from there I can add my own projects and point a kickstart at my own obsvm to get the full image created | 11:03 |
slaine | Correct ? | 11:03 |
Stskeeps | so, let's just see if you can do a simple build first :) | 11:05 |
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Stskeeps | slaine: http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Building_against_Mer_in_COBS | 11:11 |
Stskeeps | slaine: but instead of Mer:fake, use fakeobs: | 11:11 |
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slaine | Stskeeps: ok, giving that a shot | 11:15 |
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Stskeeps | slaine: your project in this case is home:yourlogin | 11:18 |
slaine | yup, just finishing the repo section | 11:19 |
slaine | ok | 11:21 |
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slaine | Stskeeps: ok, I've tried the copypac | 11:35 |
slaine | http://pastebin.com/EEqs9Ab4 | 11:35 |
slaine | and I've set the project up for home:glen | 11:35 |
Stskeeps | can i see the meta prj just to sanity check? | 11:36 |
slaine | sure | 11:36 |
slaine | http://pastebin.com/mf6RYPs4 | 11:37 |
Stskeeps | looks corect | 11:38 |
slaine | Stskeeps: cool | 11:41 |
slaine | what's next | 11:41 |
Stskeeps | check project 'monitor' tab | 11:42 |
slaine | cool, it rebuilt acl | 11:42 |
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Stskeeps | excellent | 11:43 |
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Stskeeps | want to try to take it for a spin? | 11:43 |
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slaine | hell yeah, just point me in the right direction for the next steps | 11:44 |
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Stskeeps | ok, osc ls Core:i586 | xargs -L1 -Ixxx osc linkpac Core:i586 xxx home:yourlogin | 11:45 |
slaine | that'll give it something to chew on | 11:46 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 11:46 |
Stskeeps | er, osc linkpac -C copy | 11:46 |
Stskeeps | @@% | 11:46 |
Stskeeps | ok, osc ls fakeobs:Core:i586 | xargs -L1 -Ixxx osc linkpac -C copy fakeobs:Core:i586 xxx home:yourlogin | 11:47 |
Stskeeps | there | 11:47 |
slaine | I should probably prefix…..yup | 11:47 |
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Stskeeps | X-Fade: ping - can you add 91.221.196.0/28 as able to AXFR on the mer domains, .org included? | 11:49 |
X-Fade | Stskeeps: Sure. | 11:50 |
Stskeeps | thanks | 11:50 |
slaine | Stskeeps: cool, thanks, that's started off, I'll grab some lunch now | 11:50 |
X-Fade | Do wou want to setup one of them as secondary dns? | 11:50 |
Stskeeps | X-Fade: nah, ns.formeego.org as master no matter what - does lbt have access to edit zone files? | 11:51 |
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X-Fade | Stskeeps: Yeah, after I add his account he will :) | 11:51 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:51 |
Stskeeps | X-Fade: idea is to use ns.formeego.org as shadow NS for the .org domains until we get the nameserver registration in order for it, ie, it's master but is not in WHOIS record | 11:52 |
Stskeeps | X-Fade: so we go for known working (in .org) DNS servers in WHOIS that pull from ns.formeego.org | 11:54 |
X-Fade | Stskeeps: Ok, I can add my own host too if needed. | 11:54 |
Stskeeps | yep | 11:54 |
X-Fade | Somehow we will beat the system :) | 11:54 |
Stskeeps | let me know when it's set up with AXFR and i'll set up secondary NS'es -once those are responding for merproject.org, we can set the NS records in domains | 11:56 |
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mece | so.. Nemo ey? | 12:01 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 12:01 |
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jukkaeklund | network problems, did I miss anything? | 12:03 |
Stskeeps | not really | 12:03 |
jukkaeklund | as someone was quick to mention on twitter, Nemo is omen flipped | 12:04 |
Stskeeps | good omen or bad omen? :> | 12:05 |
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mece | Stskeeps, that remains to be seen. Also, Finding Nemo is sometimes used as a metaphor for cunnilingus, which would make Nemo... well you do the math. | 12:09 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 12:10 |
jukkaeklund | :) | 12:10 |
Stskeeps | i'm an innocent person, nemo reminds me of jules verne | 12:10 |
Stskeeps | :P | 12:10 |
Stskeeps | first book i ever got as a present | 12:10 |
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mece | which one? 20000 leagues or perhaps The Mysterious Island? | 12:11 |
Stskeeps | think 20000 leagues was the first | 12:12 |
mece | Brilliant books both. Infact so brilliant that I now have to get them and read them to my kids. I just finished reading The Hobbit to my daughter 2 days ago :) | 12:13 |
* dm8tbr has consumed most of jules vernes works during his youth :) | 12:13 | |
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mece | are they ok for 7 year olds I wonder? | 12:13 |
mece | I don't remember | 12:13 |
dm8tbr | some of verne's books are quite brutal at times | 12:13 |
dm8tbr | if not graphic then implied | 12:14 |
mece | well the hobbit was rather more violent than I remembered too. | 12:15 |
mece | Anyway I was rooting for Nemo as the name when I saw the top contenders. So I'm happy about that :) | 12:17 |
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slaine | I read the Hobbit to my son a couple of years back | 12:22 |
slaine | probably due another outing | 12:22 |
slaine | so the younger one can listen in | 12:22 |
veskuh | Nemo seems to be a very popular name. If you google for nemo project/os/CE/software/platform/mobile/handset/phone/almost anything you will find results. | 12:23 |
mece | What do I say when people ask what Nemo is? | 12:24 |
Stskeeps | mece: an effort for open source mobile experiences | 12:24 |
leinir | Hehe, interesting choice of name - antihero, driven by a thirst for vengeance and a hatred of imperialism... :) | 12:24 |
mece | more specificaly | 12:24 |
veskuh | mobile os | 12:24 |
mece | leinir, very good choice of name! | 12:24 |
Stskeeps | leinir: :cough: feb11 shall be avenged, or something | 12:24 |
mece | I want to involve mer in the explanation | 12:24 |
leinir | Stskeeps: Like, totally ;) | 12:24 |
Jucato | leinir: don't you mean "clownfish"? | 12:24 |
slaine | hehe | 12:24 |
mece | hahahaa | 12:25 |
Stskeeps | mece: 'based upon the Mer core' | 12:25 |
mece | what is the rest? | 12:25 |
mece | handset ux? | 12:25 |
leinir | Jucato: *giggles* it depends on the literary experience of the person, i guess ;) | 12:25 |
mece | something | 12:25 |
mece | ? | 12:25 |
Stskeeps | mece: n900/n950/n9 hardware adaptation and handset ux | 12:25 |
mece | hm | 12:26 |
Jucato | leinir: hehehe | 12:26 |
mece | will lipstick be part of nemo? | 12:26 |
Stskeeps | afaik | 12:26 |
mece | ok | 12:27 |
Stskeeps | or at least integrated | 12:27 |
mece | yeah | 12:27 |
dm8tbr | on the 404 page I'd just print: 'not found' and an CC licensed image that looks like this: http://tolweb.org/tree/ToLimages/Clownfish.300a.jpg | 12:27 |
slaine | excited to see my obsvm finally working hard on something | 12:27 |
slaine | Thanks Stskeeps | 12:27 |
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Stskeeps | slaine: no problem - if you have suggestions to add to the README.txt, they're more than welcome | 12:27 |
slaine | I might send you a patch | 12:28 |
mece | @AgileBorat: My friend Azamat is world best coder! Is so good, is able write program without structure! | 12:28 |
slaine | just to elaborate on some of the steps | 12:28 |
dm8tbr | mece: agileborat rocks :D | 12:28 |
mece | yep | 12:28 |
Jucato | nemo wearing a lipstick. nice imagery there :) | 12:30 |
Stskeeps | slaine: would be good :) | 12:30 |
mece | what's the status of Raspberry Pi these days? Can one order them already? | 12:30 |
slaine | mece: I don't think so | 12:30 |
slaine | they're still drafting the final board layout as I understand it | 12:30 |
slaine | can't wait to get one though | 12:31 |
mece | Yeah I showed the website to the embedded labs people here and they got all excited and started planning on uses | 12:32 |
slaine | I'm using a Trimslice as my target at the moment | 12:33 |
mece | thing is, at that price you can use it for almost anything. I want my house full of those little things! | 12:33 |
slaine | yeah, I can imagine having a few alright | 12:34 |
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jukkaeklund | do you the schedule for raspberry beta board? | 12:37 |
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vgrade | jukkaeklund, end Nov, last date I saw. I think the board layout is finalised | 12:38 |
jukkaeklund | tanks | 12:38 |
jukkaeklund | thanks, even | 12:39 |
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mece | hehe, ISO 204800 | 12:41 |
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slaine | vgrade: do you know if it'll be limited availability ? | 12:42 |
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iekku | what's happening in here? have been busy the whole day | 12:56 |
slaine | iekku: It looks like I've gotten a mer build env up and running on a local OBS vm, thanks to Stskeeps, so I'm happy ;) | 12:56 |
iekku | \o/ | 12:57 |
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harbaum | cordia doesn't really work our of the box for beagle. I see the clock, the battery icon and then it exits .... | 13:03 |
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faenil | so, I heard you've gone for Nemo :) | 13:19 |
Stskeeps | the CE stuff yes | 13:20 |
faenil | :) | 13:22 |
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djszapi | Hello! Has anybody tried to make Mer work on ExoPC ? | 13:32 |
vgrade | slaine, aiui, there will be 10,000 on the first run. For the first week to order one you need to donate another one. ie pay for 2 but only get one. The other one will be given to schools etc | 13:32 |
slaine | sounds good | 13:32 |
vgrade | djszapi, see links on wiki | 13:33 |
slaine | is there an order list already do you know ? | 13:33 |
vgrade | nope | 13:33 |
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slaine | my understanding was it was first come first served when they'd announced it was available | 13:33 |
djszapi | vgrade: could you please make a definite comprehensive answer before doing my research whether it works or not ? | 13:34 |
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djszapi | oh: http://bug10738.openaos.org/images/exopc/mer-plasma/ | 13:35 |
vgrade | djszapi, thats WIP, the mer dir above boots to qmlviewer | 13:36 |
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djszapi | vgrade: ah okay, so it is safer to put meego with PA onto my exopc this time ? | 13:37 |
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vgrade | djszapi, yes atm. I will give you a shout later when I get to rebuild x86 mer plasma | 13:38 |
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slaine | Stskeeps: lots of stuff going through a building phase and then when finished marked as blocked | 14:01 |
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Stskeeps | slaine: that's sane | 14:02 |
slaine | bootstrapping the build env | 14:02 |
slaine | ? | 14:02 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 14:02 |
slaine | grand, that's what I hoped | 14:02 |
Stskeeps | let me know when it finishes, and specs of your machine | 14:02 |
slaine | hehe, it'll be a while at this rate | 14:02 |
slaine | and it's running in a VM | 14:02 |
Stskeeps | on my 12gb machine, i do 4 ports rebuild in 1 1/2 days | 14:03 |
slaine | nice machine | 14:03 |
Stskeeps | with only ability to run 4 jobs at a time | 14:03 |
slaine | I've a 2GB Desktop with an older Core 2 Duo :) | 14:03 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:03 |
slaine | I've given the VM 2GB and 2 cpu's, 100GB of native lvm | 14:03 |
Stskeeps | let's see how it goes | 14:04 |
vgrade | slaine do you have a log of your steps? | 14:08 |
slaine | vgrade: not yet, I will work on that and provide Stskeeps with a patch | 14:08 |
slaine | to the README | 14:08 |
vgrade | ok | 14:08 |
slaine | Or would an end to end how to be better ? | 14:08 |
vgrade | I'm not sure as I've not tried the README | 14:09 |
Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind someone doing a end-to-end wiki page on it | 14:10 |
vgrade | I'm not sure I have a machine big enough | 14:11 |
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slaine | Stskeeps: I'll start off with the VM server setup right through to the README steps I guess so | 14:13 |
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Stskeeps | bbl | 14:14 |
Sage | ~////// | 14:15 |
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harbaum | Stskeeps: Next thing: You need to setup a community device program! i love free gadgets :-) | 14:25 |
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jbos | Free Gadget ?! :) | 14:40 |
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slaine | Is there a mailing list for mer yet ? | 16:26 |
slaine | or are we using meego-dev ? | 16:26 |
Stskeeps | meego-handset@ right now, we had some DNS problems so mailing list isn't up yet | 16:30 |
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slaine | Stskeeps: I've created a document | 16:44 |
slaine | I'd like to run through it tomorrow to make sure I've covered everything | 16:44 |
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Stskeeps | alright | 16:46 |
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slaine | Would like to extend it to cover armv7hl, but I assume it's a repeat of the linkpac command based on armv7hl rather than i586 | 16:49 |
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slaine | time to head, I'll follow up tomorrow | 16:51 |
slaine | if the process works, I'll pass on the doc | 16:51 |
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vgrade | slaine, nice one, I'll give it a go when I find some suitable hw | 16:59 |
vgrade | evening all | 16:59 |
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harbaum | Hey guys, do you still have the DNS probem? | 18:34 |
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djszapi | X-Fade any ideas for crashing compiler on c-obs ? :p https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=soprano&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 18:34 |
Stskeeps | harbaum: i think we're back to a sane state in the CP | 18:34 |
harbaum | My collegue told me that there has been an update yesterday and all domains are in the "ready" state | 18:34 |
harbaum | That's what my collegue also told me | 18:35 |
Stskeeps | harbaum: we're assessing next steps atm but will probably go for known-working-in-.org nameservers and figure out along the way how nameservers get registered in this day and age :) | 18:35 |
harbaum | If you have very specific questions, feel free to ask. Those guys really know their stuff ... | 18:36 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:36 |
Stskeeps | i have to update my own knowledge too, things have moved along a lot since you had to use email to register domains | 18:37 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:37 |
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gpd | sorry for stupid question: can I run Mer / something better than Maemo 4.1 on my Nokia N800? | 18:55 |
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bigbluehat | gpd: welcome to the club :) | 18:58 |
gpd | bigbluehat: thanks :) | 18:59 |
bigbluehat | someone here mentioned they'd got the touch screen working and were hacking on getting the LED to shut off | 18:59 |
bigbluehat | not sure about the progress tho or where we might track it | 18:59 |
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gpd | searching Mer wiki for N8x0 gives nothing - looks like they gave up and moved to N900? | 18:59 |
Stskeeps | gpd: so Mer's just a core, someone has to put together a hardware adaptation (kernel, etc) and someone has to get a UI working that doesn't need GLESv2/GLESv | 19:00 |
Stskeeps | 1 | 19:00 |
Stskeeps | gpd: Mer has a built for ARMv6 though | 19:00 |
Stskeeps | and i've done a bootup to qmlviewer with a modern kernel | 19:00 |
bigbluehat | and Stskeeps has 2 N800 under his desk, so there's hope ;) | 19:01 |
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Stskeeps | but i must say it's not high on my list, so others will have to lead the way | 19:01 |
Stskeeps | ie, n8x0 adaptation | 19:01 |
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gpd | Stskeeps: ok - not too surprising - the n8x0's are pretty old now! | 19:02 |
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Stskeeps | gpd: but still working ;) | 19:02 |
gpd | mine is now in the cellar, still working - but starting to crash a lot - possibly because I fed it too much saw dust! | 19:02 |
bigbluehat | :) | 19:06 |
bigbluehat | mine's under my desk | 19:06 |
bigbluehat | playing a midi version of the Sirens song | 19:07 |
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tarantism | stskeeps: I like the new name for CE - Nemo - but thought I'd check you were aware of the latin meaning: "No one"? | 19:07 |
Stskeeps | tarantism: hehe | 19:08 |
tarantism | stskeeps: so long as it doesn't mean the number of users | 19:08 |
tarantism | still think it's a cool name | 19:09 |
Stskeeps | Nemo tries to project a stern, controlled confidence, but he is driven by a thirst for vengeance and a hatred of imperialism (particularly the British Empire) and wracked by remorse over the deaths of his crew members and even by the deaths of enemy sailors. | 19:09 |
Stskeeps | is probably more likely ;) | 19:09 |
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tarantism | hear, you leave of the British!! | 19:10 |
Stskeeps | :cough: feb11 | 19:10 |
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tarantism | You can't blame us for some bloody colonial!!! | 19:11 |
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berndhs | you should have taken him with you when you left | 19:12 |
tarantism | I do like your analogy though. | 19:12 |
tarantism | You'd have been better with "Nelson"; he was magnificent on top of the Mer. | 19:19 |
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Stskeeps | ok, sleep time | 19:19 |
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djszapi | would it possible for vendors to use drm along with mer ? | 19:22 |
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Stskeeps | djszapi: that's best for their lawyers to evaluate, but we're -at the moment- still having same gplv2 and not gplv3 packages as meego did. | 19:24 |
Stskeeps | this is a thing that will, at some point, cause problems unless there's people actively maintaining the gplv2 branches | 19:25 |
djszapi | if I am not mistaken, it was available as an option with the meego architecture for vendors, if they would like to have things like that. | 19:26 |
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Stskeeps | djszapi: well, it was enforced on all packages, we have ancient coreutils as an example | 19:26 |
Stskeeps | well | 19:26 |
Stskeeps | not all | 19:26 |
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Stskeeps | everything that went on a reference image | 19:26 |
Stskeeps | i would like to say that i give a rats ass about people being afraid of gplv3 but i'd like to see how much of a "gplv2 branch" effort could be shared with tizen | 19:27 |
Stskeeps | as i'm not terribly convinced about gplv3 :P | 19:27 |
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Stskeeps | anyhow, sleep | 19:29 |
Stskeeps | bbl | 19:29 |
djszapi | sleep well :) | 19:29 |
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mingwandroid | vgrade: hey. some bad news, I dropped my laptop this evening on way home from work, broken the screen. | 20:03 |
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vgrade | mingwandroid, ouch | 21:09 |
vgrade | mingwandroid, you can usually get replacements easily/cheaply | 21:09 |
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Mordae | mingwandroid: Thay sucks. | 21:11 |
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Mordae | vgrade: I was wondering... are you still working on MeeGo/Mer-based TV? | 21:11 |
Mordae | I'll be in need of something like that in several (as in 3-5) months for when we're buying us a new flat. | 21:12 |
Mordae | And I thought I'd mine some of your gray matter for that. :-) | 21:12 |
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vgrade | Mordae, yes still have the trimslice and will be building Mer for it soon. there may be some news on video soon as well | 21:16 |
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Mordae | Marvelous. Looking forward to that. | 21:17 |
Mordae | Have a nice night. | 21:18 |
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alterego | iekku: ping | 21:43 |
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smoku | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4XxQpJpitY :) | 22:05 |
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vgrade | smoku, nice video, shows how easy it is to install on x86 | 22:57 |
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