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| lolek | hello everybody, it's been a while since II've asked about this so I'd like to refresh my question, does sailfish finally support full phone encryption? | 07:26 |
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| coderus | lolek: sailfishos is mobile operating system. if you want an application for your needs - write it, or pay some developers you know to write such application | 07:42 |
| lolek | coderus: application won't solve this. I'm asking about built in low level full system encryption | 07:43 |
| coderus | i think you're wrong | 07:43 |
| lolek | I think I'm not | 07:43 |
| lolek | but I don't came here to argue, just I want to know if this was finally implemented as I'm asking for it from time to time (usually around every half year) | 07:44 |
| Nicd- | lolek: I don't think there's full disk encryption. not in the OS at least and can't find instructions with a quick googling | 07:47 |
| lolek | Nicd-: ok, thank you, then as before I'll come back with the same question after some time :) | 07:47 |
| Nicd- | android has full disk encryption :D | 07:48 |
| lolek | Nicd-: man... please | 07:48 |
| pketo | there is no disk encryption yet, but it has been worked on | 07:49 |
| lolek | pketo: ok, thank you! | 07:49 |
| larstiq | mostly focused on encrypting home | 07:49 |
| lolek | larstiq: tbh I'd prefer full disk... | 07:49 |
| larstiq | lolek: also some work in that direction | 07:50 |
| lolek | larstiq: that's great, especially that I saw that there was some new phone presented lately (some sony i think) | 07:52 |
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| larstiq | lolek: https://jolla.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Sony_Jolla_press_release_MWC2017_FINAL.pdf you mean? | 07:58 |
| lolek | well yeah seems so | 08:03 |
| tbr | read it carefully and try to understand what it really says. :) | 08:04 |
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| lolek | tbr: yeah "Jolla is aiming to release an official version of its Sailfish OS for a range of Sony Mobile’s Xperia devices" | 08:05 |
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| Pawky | will there be any cooperation between Jolla and Nokia hardware wise? Would be sweet to buy the new Nokia and run Sailfish on it, sweet N9 memories... :-) | 13:23 |
| Pawky | As I have mantioned before, my phone is slowly moving towards end of life and to my knowledge there is no new hardware in sight anyware to be bought :-/ | 13:24 |
| sobukus | Oh, regarding hardware. My TOHKBD2 is broken. Anyone got an idea where I can get those pogopins? Two of those are broken. | 13:25 |
| Pawky | 3d printer? | 13:26 |
| * sobukus tempted by a Blackberry Priv, somehow | 13:26 | |
| mal | Pawky: did you check the news from MWC? | 13:26 |
| Pawky | nope, link? | 13:26 |
| sobukus | Pawky: I am speaking of these little metal contacts with a spring inside. Not really a 3D printer job. | 13:26 |
| cehteh | sobukus: check banggood.com or other electronics shops | 13:26 |
| sobukus | They are standard, but not that standard that I can find them at my usual electronics dealers. | 13:26 |
| Pawky | sobukus: N900 phone? :-) | 13:26 |
| sobukus | banggood.com ? sounds like pr0n | 13:27 |
| cehteh | everyone says that :D | 13:27 |
| Pawky | lol | 13:27 |
| mornfall | Pawky: sailfishos is supposed to run on sony hardware in foreseeable future | 13:27 |
| r0kk3rz | Pawky: import an INOI? | 13:27 |
| Pawky | omornfall: ohhhhh.... :-D | 13:27 |
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| cehteh | and well .. chinese shop for everything ... http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Intimate-Apparel-c-1098.html .. not too far fetched :D | 13:27 |
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| Pawky | r0kk3rz: wrong frequencies i presume... :-/ | 13:28 |
| Pawky | aliexpress? :-) | 13:28 |
| r0kk3rz | do russians use different freqs to Europe? | 13:28 |
| Pawky | r0kk3rz: yes, partly | 13:28 |
| cehteh | but: http://www.banggood.com/search/pogo-pins.html | 13:28 |
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| Pawky | some are the same, some differ, depends on provider | 13:29 |
| Pawky | isnt Marc Dillon CEO for Jolla anymore? | 13:31 |
| larstiq | Pawky: not for a looong time | 13:32 |
| Pawky | larstiq: oh... never heard of it, cannot say I read it anywhere in the Jolla news... | 13:32 |
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| larstiq | Pawky: https://fi.linkedin.com/in/marc-dillon-70709137 | 13:33 |
| Pawky | I would still like Jolla to run on Nokia again, then the circle would be complete :-) | 13:33 |
| r0kk3rz | Pawky: talk to HMD and convince them to make a sailfish device | 13:33 |
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| Pawky | r0kk3rz: but if Nokia will ron Android, it must be pretty easy to cram Sailfish in, right? | 13:34 |
| Pawky | (run) | 13:34 |
| r0kk3rz | for various values of 'pretty easy' sure | 13:35 |
| r0kk3rz | no doubt ports will be created at some point | 13:36 |
| Pawky | will there be aIf that would be achieved, then Nokia has risen from the aches and we would have a true Finnish phone again :-) | 13:36 |
| Pawky | (gosh, i spell so bad...) | 13:36 |
| r0kk3rz | TrueFinnishTM (made in china) | 13:38 |
| Pawky | a Sony phone at the end of Q2, perfect, I think I can keep my phone running with some life support until then.. :-) | 13:38 |
| Pawky | r0kk3rz: LOL | 13:38 |
| Pawky | yeah, brandwise I mean | 13:38 |
| Pawky | Does anyone know what Xperia model will be used? | 13:39 |
| Pawky | any specs, anything? :-P | 13:40 |
| mal | Pawky: Xperia X is supposed to be the first | 13:41 |
| r0kk3rz | Pawky: brandwise, and design wise, Jolla Phone was TrueFinnishTM | 13:42 |
| Pawky | r0kk3rz: made in India by Intex... right? | 13:42 |
| Pawky | or was it China?.... | 13:43 |
| larstiq | it's all one continent | 13:44 |
| Pawky | one world | 13:44 |
| larstiq | now if we could get some manufacturing in Zealandia | 13:44 |
| Pawky | Made on earth :-D | 13:44 |
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| Yaniel | Jolla 1 was not made by Intex | 13:45 |
| Yaniel | aqua fish and presumably jolla c were made by intex | 13:45 |
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| Pawky | They sold a phone very similar to jolla 1... | 13:47 |
| lolek | sobukus: I had priv for three days, sold it cause of android and it's too big, impossible to operate it with one hand | 13:48 |
| sobukus | Hm, I didn't check the size. A phone shouldn't be bigger than my Jolla 1. | 13:48 |
| lolek | this is the first smartphone jolla made right? | 13:49 |
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| sobukus | Yes. 4.something screen. | 13:50 |
| lolek | sobukus: yeah it's also big but conside rthat priv is way bigger | 13:50 |
| sobukus | k | 13:51 |
| * Yaniel maintains that iphone se is about the perfect size for a touchscreen phone | 13:52 | |
| lolek | Yaniel: well the thing is that phone size that's not bigger than 130mm is good | 13:52 |
| lolek | Pawky: others here, will probably shout at me but I'd use silfish for anything more than phone calls until it will not support encryption except you don't care about anything you have on your phone. By anything I mean really anything :) | 13:53 |
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| lolek | *I wouldn't | 13:53 |
| Yaniel | my jolla1 is currently repurposed as a fancy mp3 player I use at night | 13:57 |
| Yaniel | (unfortunately its microsd is full now :/) | 13:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | https://www.mobileworldlive.com/featured-content/top-three/jolla-aims-for-profitable-2017/ | 16:32 |
| r0kk3rz | jolla makes money (maybe, hopefully) | 16:32 |
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| l1pi | soon | 17:14 |
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| the_mgt | i support the cry for encryption | 17:47 |
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| r0kk3rz | well, word on the street says xperias get dalvik | 18:13 |
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| Yaniel | those streets soudn nice | 18:23 |
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| phlixi_ | the street in this case is for example someone asking at jolla booth and then posting it on tjc | 19:29 |
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| phlixi_ | source: https://together.jolla.com/question/157639/jolla-sony-xperia-qa/?comment=157770#comment-157770 | 19:39 |
| phlixi_ | r0kk3rz Yaniel :) | 19:39 |
| r0kk3rz | that is the word and the street yes | 19:45 |
| r0kk3rz | also interesting that apparently it will be distributed as an image from the sony website | 19:45 |
| phlixi_ | source? | 19:45 |
| phlixi_ | :D | 19:46 |
| r0kk3rz | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1524390&postcount=127 | 19:46 |
| phlixi_ | thanks | 19:47 |
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| phlixi_ | i wonder whether this image will contain the alien stuff | 19:50 |
| phlixi_ | unfortunately my french is quite bad | 19:50 |
| r0kk3rz | i doubt it, but if you can download from store whats the difference? | 19:52 |
| phlixi_ | too literaly :D | 19:53 |
| mal | but downloads from device manufacturer wouldn't be the first time, images for fp2 port are shared from fairphone site | 19:54 |
| phlixi_ | i was refering to the the problem that you need a license for the myriad stuff | 19:54 |
| mal | yes, I understood that | 19:54 |
| phlixi_ | but r0kk3rz is right, if you get myriad stuff after you downloaded the image from sony, then ofc you get it via the store. i was wondering whether you will get it at all, given that the same article says later that devices will be sold with SFOS preinstalled | 19:56 |
| mal | maybe they will add support for paid apps? | 19:57 |
| phlixi_ | they should | 19:57 |
| phlixi_ | but thats way more expensive then it might look like if you dont really have to implement it | 19:58 |
| phlixi_ | i would welcome payment in the store, i just had given up hopes on that | 19:58 |
| phlixi_ | ^^ | 19:58 |
| phlixi_ | its just so much f*ck up involved with international payment | 19:59 |
| phlixi_ | and to be honest, i highly doubt that the store (given they would take 30% or such, whatever) would pay for it self in a long while | 20:00 |
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| phlixi_ | i guess if one is interested in xperia with alien dalvik, one has to be patient at the moment :-) | 20:01 |
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| phlixi_ | but i am optimistic that there is something avail until christmas :D | 20:01 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe sony pays? who knows | 20:02 |
| phlixi_ | or maybe you buy the image in a shop at sony... | 20:03 |
| phlixi_ | (or license, or whatever) | 20:03 |
| phlixi_ | but to answer your question: probably someone who signed an nda :D | 20:04 |
| phlixi_ | btw, is there video avail from the press event? | 20:04 |
| phlixi_ | ...iirc the intex event was on youtube | 20:05 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe they see it as a marketing thing, sony's marketing budget is gigabucks no doubt | 20:05 |
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