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| dyce[m] | does the intex aquafish support the basic bands for US usage? | 02:14 |
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| jayaura | I knoa for sure that 2.0.4 doesn't support VoLTE | 06:15 |
| jayaura | People in india are unhappy including me are disappointed because they operator in the country doesn't support fallback. they mandate Volte support. i can only use it for data access, calls not working | 06:17 |
| jayaura | s/are/and | 06:17 |
| jayaura | Because the new operator | 06:18 |
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| jayaura | Damn i hate the two keybords - the default sailfish one and dolphin | 06:19 |
| jayaura | Simply unproductive | 06:19 |
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| pp_ | urgh :-) VoLTE probably isn't exactly trivial to implement (ok, SIP over SCTP or whatnot) | 06:44 |
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| larstiq | jayaura: Jio? | 07:22 |
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| jayaura | larstiq: yes, Reliance Jio | 07:55 |
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| r0kk3rz | jayaura: ooi, did you expect it would have volte out of the box? | 08:41 |
| larstiq | r0kk3rz: it not having gsm is perhaps a bit unexpected | 08:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | larstiq: sure. and perhaps it was oversight on intex's part to release a phone missing a critical feature | 08:47 |
| r0kk3rz | i'm just curious as to the expectation | 08:47 |
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| jayaura | r0kk3rz: Expecting VoLTE support on a 4G supported handset - that is not too much of an expectation, is it? Afterall, its a phone. It must have the capabilities of one. All the OS and productivity stuff should come afterwards, IMHO. | 09:08 |
| jayaura | Sure Jio not deciding to support a fallback could be an unexpected move | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | it's expected they were able to fallback yes | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | jayaura: volte isn't obligatory on 4g, it came out after 4g modems | 09:10 |
| jayaura | Stskeeps: I didnt know that. so thats why it became an options software feature | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | qualcomm first made the support quite late | 09:16 |
| jayaura | optional* | 09:16 |
| jayaura | Stskeeps: and they made it in a platform dependent manner or so ? | 09:18 |
| jayaura | I mean the OS | 09:18 |
| r0kk3rz | jayaura: ive had a bunch of 4g handsets, never one with Volte, but the indian market is a bit different | 09:18 |
| r0kk3rz | jayaura: so the answer is "yes, i expected it to have volte" then | 09:19 |
| jayaura | r0kk3rz: nobody would have cared about VoLTE if Jio permitted fallback. | 09:19 |
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| Stskeeps | you can probably blame the market, too | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | fallback is easy and a easy business case, but if the 3g/2g networks refuse to service jio | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | then fallback won't happen | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | they complained to communications regulator over jio too didn't they? | 09:21 |
| jayaura | Stskeeps: i dont think you can complain the market. most users are satisfied with a 4G 'label'. Very few dig into the reality, especially in india where most of the users are 'laymans'. | 09:23 |
| jayaura | I think the public's complaint on Jio was because of some tariff/offer issue | 09:23 |
| r0kk3rz | jayaura: sure, but perceptions matter. and if the perceived failure is sailfish then rightful or not thats something to address | 09:23 |
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| jayaura | r0kk3rz: indeed. | 09:30 |
| jayaura | Stskeeps: about the fallback, Reliance already had GSM networks. So even if other 3g/2g network operators disagreed to cooperate, they could have still done it. | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | Jio is 4G-only AFAIK | 09:31 |
| jayaura | yes exactly | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | sure you don't mean relcomm or which | 09:32 |
| jayaura | Reliance (RCOM) itself is another 2g/3g provider with decent coverage all over india | 09:32 |
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| jayaura | I think you may know - In september when Jio was launched, they made the services free until Dec 31, so there are lots of people wanting to try it out. | 09:40 |
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| TMavica | Sailfish os running in Smartwatch will announce soon | 14:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | TMavica: hah pull the other one | 14:12 |
| TMavica | Sami show his sailfish smartwatch in front of Amanda Lam | 14:14 |
| r0kk3rz | you sure it wasnt an asteroidos watch? | 14:21 |
| TMavica | I dont know | 14:25 |
| r0kk3rz | that said, it really wouldnt be hard to do up a swishy silica homescreen for asteroidos | 14:25 |
| mornfall | a steroid os? | 14:28 |
| Nicd- | specially tailored for norwegian skiers | 14:28 |
| larstiq | Nicd-: ouch | 14:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | mornfall: hehe, think nemomobile for smartwatches | 14:33 |
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| tadzik | Nicd-: duuuuude :D | 15:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | heh direct flight SF to helsinki, straight over the top | 15:13 |
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| Hartzi | Nicd-: nailed it! | 15:33 |
| locusf | r0kk3rz: sf? | 15:41 |
| r0kk3rz | locusf: san francisco | 15:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | locusf: https://twitter.com/SoVeryFinnish/status/803884228740022272 | 15:49 |
| locusf | r0kk3rz: hahah | 15:49 |
| locusf | r0kk3rz: ping me if you wanna hang around in hki? | 15:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | r0kk3rz: hihihi | 15:54 |
| SfietKonstantinW | TMavica: do you have a photo of that smartwatch ? | 15:54 |
| TMavica | @SfietKonstantinW: no | 15:56 |
| TMavica | Not consumer ready, just for demo | 15:57 |
| SfietKonstantinW | TMavica: :( | 15:57 |
| r0kk3rz | whats up SfietKonstantinW | 15:58 |
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| TMavica | She havent take, but it is here | 16:00 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | r0kk3rz: at work :) | 16:09 |
| SfietKonstantinW | otherwise, quite happy :) | 16:09 |
| TMavica | http://www.iltasanomat.fi/digitoday/art-2000004888414.html | 16:25 |
| TMavica | Sailfish smartwatch | 16:27 |
| r0kk3rz | i wonder if they will ever sell such a thing | 16:28 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | honestly ? | 16:47 |
| SfietKonstantinW | it looks good | 16:47 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so why not ? | 16:47 |
| r0kk3rz | because jolla isnt selling much of anything these days? | 16:49 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | r0kk3rz: Jolla sells OS, not phones | 17:44 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so if the OS can go everywhere, it's a + | 17:44 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (cf tablet) | 17:44 |
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| r0kk3rz | SfietKonstantinW: sure, but that doesnt mean anyone want to create a watch we can actually buy | 17:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | r0kk3rz: ask kido | 17:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ah kido's not here | 17:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | yes id be surprised if this isnt an asteroidos skin | 17:54 |
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| TMavica | I dont like smartwatch personally | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | i'm waiting for my sailfishos exocortex | 18:13 |
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| kimmoli | exofishbone | 18:39 |
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| lpotter | the watch looks interesting, except I don't wear a watch | 19:08 |
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| Tegu | hm, jolla store is not responding.. | 19:57 |
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| Tegu | pketo: I mean, it does not load. the category names are visible but the indicator is just spinning | 20:31 |
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| pketo | Tegu: that's weird... seems to work fine for me | 21:52 |
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| Tegu | websites and this irc work, though, so it shouldn't be the connection in general | 21:53 |
| Tegu | ok now it loaded | 21:53 |
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| Tegu | earlier I tried to wait for some time and also restart the app | 21:54 |
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