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| Tofe | The battery life of my Jolla1 is really good with latest update... with no android app started. | 08:48 |
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| klopsi-u3 | good | 08:51 |
| klopsi-u3 | i expect sailfish to be better than scamdroid | 08:51 |
| Tofe | I didn't use it that much - some mails, some bycicle app, some messaging, a bit of calling - But hey, I'm on the road to having 7-8 days without charging... Which is quite awsome for a 3 years old device. | 08:55 |
| klopsi-u3 | better than my n900 | 08:55 |
| klopsi-u3 | how many mAh does the battery have? | 08:56 |
| Tofe | 2100 | 08:57 |
| klopsi-u3 | ah n900 has like 1300 | 08:57 |
| Tofe | yes, my n900 never went up to 3 full days | 08:57 |
| klopsi-u3 | i was porting an online game to the n900 - maxed cpu and constant data | 09:03 |
| klopsi-u3 | a full battery lasted about 3.5 hours ;) | 09:03 |
| klopsi-u3 | well in the final version - the high refresh version even less | 09:03 |
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| Tofe | :) | 09:04 |
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| schoppenhauer | I am currenzly zrying several task switchers | 10:54 |
| * Helle is doing some parts shopping for a silly idea | 10:55 | |
| Helle | take a ESP32 or ESP8266 and make it mirror my phone's indicator light with a big lamp (few LEDs) | 10:55 |
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| Yaniel | My Jolla1 is feeling nationalistic | 11:32 |
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| Yaniel | Instead of pulsing the indicator led on/off in standby it has decided to pulse cyan/white | 11:33 |
| Nicd- | Jolla True Finns Edition | 11:34 |
| Riotela | D: | 11:36 |
| Riotela | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finns_Party | 11:36 |
| Yaniel | Maybe it's just trying to tell me that it's finnished | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | Yaniel: doesn't it go with ambience? | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | or at least i thought it used to | 11:38 |
| Yaniel | What | 11:38 |
| Riotela | Soon it will also go fixit | 11:38 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure its never done that since tahkalampi | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | well, i might remember wrong, but it was on the table for a bit | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:39 |
| Yaniel | I have never seen the ambience affect the status led | 11:39 |
| Yaniel | Anyway my ambience is closer to pink than cyan atm anyway | 11:39 |
| spiiroin | Yaniel: the j1 led r/g/b controls are completely independent from each other -> suitable hiccup somewhere -> static green+blue and blinking red -> end result is cyan/white blinking | 11:47 |
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| Yaniel | Yeah I expect a reboot to fix it | 11:49 |
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| spiiroin | Yaniel: So far I've only heard of cases where any change to led usage makes the issues go away? What happens if you turn on display (led should turn off) and then off again (led should light up again)? | 11:56 |
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| Yaniel | It returns to the same state | 12:04 |
| Yaniel | To clarify: it does briefly go black from cyan | 12:05 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | 12:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, ping | 12:11 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | Lieke, ping | 12:11 |
| sledges | SebthreeBQM10HD: pong | 12:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, oh your here nice | 12:11 |
| sledges | SebthreeBQM10HD: on and off;) | 12:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, seems I'll have I think it was Lieke coming up now anyway, to my event next week | 12:12 |
| sledges | just replied to your email | 12:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but uhmm yeah :D | 12:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, or oh that was you all along ? | 12:12 |
| sledges | indeed | 12:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, I thought I had chatted to someone from devon here as well I don't remember | 12:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yah it said sim | 12:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | lithunania ok | 12:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, did you have another name here, that I chatted to you on ? | 12:12 |
| sledges | nope | 12:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, ok so its you good | 12:13 |
| sledges | i currently live in Bristol | 12:13 |
| sledges | and been to one LUG meetup | 12:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ah ha it was probably ubuntu uk I chattd to soemoen from devon... | 12:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, ok excellent it's you though all along perfect | 12:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I don't remember chatting to you specifically about this one though, just trying to contact you about it | 12:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | have you got jolla swag as well :d ? | 12:14 |
| sledges | yes, exactly what i told you on the email | 12:14 |
| sledges | i replied about that too | 12:14 |
| sledges | ;) | 12:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, the prime audaince uhmm | 12:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | is whoever turns up | 12:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I Thik it's going to be mostly people between 25 and 33 | 12:15 |
| sledges | to those unaware, were talking about an event next Saturday in Bristol, http://linux-presentation-day.org.uk/ | 12:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, going to get some techis, and some more arty people, etc etc it seems | 12:16 |
| sledges | no wonder, it's Bristol ;) | 12:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | what you mean no wonder it's Bristol ? | 12:16 |
| sledges | lots of art going on | 12:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I done a paid facebook advert for the event, and it's mostly attracted univristy type pepole it seems, plus flyers have gone up in the univeristy of bristol | 12:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | we got a lecturer doing some things for this event actsaully | 12:17 |
| sledges | sounds great! | 12:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well it's going to be in Sokes Croft, so it's good to have some arty stuff there to, as in the Cretive Commons stuff | 12:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, when we mett before you had a friend along, to the LUG, could they maybe come this time as well? | 12:18 |
| sledges | ah sure! Alex, will see what he's up to | 12:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or anyone else around like that even or in general even that you may know etc | 12:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | need more visitors to :) | 12:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, but yeah I can't, promote Jolla poperly enough myself really so | 12:19 |
| sledges | just need to pick the right audience, ain't easy:D BoF ya know | 12:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and you mentiond something about a audaince or telling some people about in the emaiil | 12:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | what was that ? | 12:20 |
| sledges | it's hard to reach out to non-techie people, as my circles are mostly tech-oriented | 12:20 |
| sledges | ex colleagues/friends etc | 12:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, can you arrange Jolla freebies as well? stickers and what not? getting it for other things, Ubuntu, Libre Office, probably Mozilla as well, and Linux Presentation Day itself of course | 12:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, that's fine you can promote it in the tech circles to | 12:21 |
| sledges | i have some leftover stickers and badges here since MWC | 12:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | it's meant to be aimed at general public, anyone | 12:21 |
| sledges | not much but will bring 'em | 12:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | how much? | 12:21 |
| sledges | oversized t-shirts as well | 12:21 |
| sledges | lol | 12:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh how big are the t shirts ? | 12:21 |
| sledges | xl | 12:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | xl is fine | 12:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and good | 12:22 |
| sledges | but it's finnish measurements | 12:22 |
| sledges | and also M (one uni fashion, another ladies cut), also got 1 jolla hat:D | 12:24 |
| sledges | most popular L all gone :{ | 12:24 |
| sledges | SebthreeBQM10HD: did you use slogans like "free software, why pay for office, photoshop and corel?" ;) | 12:25 |
| sledges | to get some M$/Mac crowd over | 12:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, no but in my changed text for the Facebook advert, I put stuff in later on in it, about how apple use some open source compontents | 12:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and android is popular and using it etc etc | 12:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and how can dual boot bit even, even on a mac, not showing | 12:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, I put something in trying to appeal to iphone,ipad, mac and android users | 12:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, so when are you likely to be there? | 12:27 |
| sledges | SebthreeBQM10HD: but first and foremost you are targetting desktop operating systems, as the main event's goal? | 12:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, mid day is likely to be the influx of people since thats' when it officaly starts | 12:27 |
| sledges | SebthreeBQM10HD: if nothing changes, i'll be there all day, help with prep etc | 12:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, ok I hope your there all day :) | 12:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | for this one targetting both | 12:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or making people aware of altnerativs to mobile et | 12:28 |
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| sledges | ah ok, so mobile is also a part | 12:28 |
| sledges | cool! | 12:28 |
| sledges | then we totally fit;) | 12:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, most people will be showing Ubuntu basically, but also doing Mageia | 12:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and yes mobile has a proper part in this | 12:28 |
| sledges | happy to be that part then ^-^ | 12:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I am going to be there with Ubuntu devices, as well, Firefox OS phone, even my Nexdock, which I can well try convergence on | 12:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | turning a phone tablet etc into a computer | 12:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, it's three area's, desktop stuff, mobile stuff, and creative commons | 12:29 |
| sledges | and now to set it all up, put demo content on, ... ;) we have just over a week:D | 12:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | demo content of ? | 12:29 |
| sledges | Sailfish OS devices will be preloaded with demo content | 12:30 |
| sledges | so it looks like a used demoable device | 12:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yes perfect :) | 12:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, I guess I won't have to do much with my own Jolla phone then, since you'll be doing proper things :) | 12:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so that's good | 12:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, its ok to have techi things | 12:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | as well | 12:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | going to get diffenret kinds of people | 12:31 |
| sledges | by all means | 12:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | just don't have something to complacted | 12:31 |
| sledges | can jolla propagate your event throughout it's SoMe channels? | 12:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, I guess a Jolla device may wo rk with this to, with the right connectins etc http://nexdock.com | 12:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | what's the SoMe channels you mentioned in the email ? | 12:32 |
| sledges | social media (fb, twitter, g+) | 12:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, venue can only fit 65 people at most in it's events basement, including organisers and helpers, at any one time, but should be all fine and good for this :) | 12:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | if over corwded got to tell people to come back later etc, but if that happens | 12:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | people I am doing this with and etc | 12:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | will be shocked | 12:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, yes of course it can be promoted in the jolla channels | 12:33 |
| sledges | cool thanks, i'll talk to our MarComms team then | 12:33 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, if it get over crowded with Jolla geeks, it's your fault, and the venue can blame you personally h eh h eh | 12:34 |
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| sledges | SebthreeBQM10HD: we'll form the message to send their linux-unaware friends/relatives, as that's whom the event is for | 12:36 |
| sledges | :) | 12:36 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, yep indeed that's mostly what a Linux Presentation Day event is for | 12:36 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | try and make people who don't really know about it or much about it, more aware of it etc what it's about etc | 12:36 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and have enthusiasts/experts there who can answer questions as well | 12:36 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, also there will be a few othrs happening in other parts of Europe on the same day by the way | 12:37 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, http://int.linux-presentation-day.org | 12:37 |
| sledges | perfect, we can advertise that, and say that Jolla's presence will be in Bristol ;-) | 12:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, yep indeed, sounds good :) | 12:39 |
| sledges | i gotta run now, catch me later here or on email | 12:39 |
| sledges | and thanks for all the effort! | 12:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, yeah possibly, but yeah see you at the event then :) 11am to 7pm :) | 12:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | next Saturday | 12:39 |
| sledges | looking forward! | 12:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, do you know where that venue is, but Cae Kino is quite easy to find I guess | 12:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since on the main raod | 12:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Cafe Kino | 12:40 |
| sledges | yeap, lived in Bristol for a while, will try to find a parking spot too:)) | 12:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, I might be able to help with parking, since someone gave me something | 12:41 |
| sledges | cool thanks | 12:41 |
| sledges | firing on SoMe channel got approved \o/ | 12:59 |
| sledges | *channels | 12:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, firing ? | 13:02 |
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| sledges | SebthreeBQM10HD: got green light | 13:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges right ok, and what does that mean exactly ? | 13:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | what will happen ? | 13:15 |
| sledges | we'll post on those channels soon | 13:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | channels as in ? | 13:15 |
| sledges | fb,twitter,g+ | 13:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | right ok | 13:16 |
| sledges | the text (140chars) will be: | 13:16 |
| sledges | Tell people about #Linux desktop and mobile, invite them to http://int.linux-presentation-day.org events across Europe! #Jolla will be in #Bristol 22 Oct! | 13:16 |
| abranson_ | ah, (So)cial (Me)dia! I was wondering what that meant for ages | 13:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sledges, Bristol England? Bristol UK ? | 13:17 |
| sledges | some say...;) | 13:17 |
| abranson_ | i'm just not down with the kids' lingo these day :D | 13:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I think the guy behind LPD | 13:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | will like this | 13:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | when I tell him via email :d | 13:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | a guy in Germany from the Berlin LUG | 13:18 |
| sledges | SebthreeBQM10HD: out of chars;) there is only one Bristol in europe | 13:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | abranson_, are you serious ? you weren't suer what it meant | 13:18 |
| * SebthreeBQM10HD could have done a bit more of that for this event in a way | 13:18 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | still time, but eh | 13:19 |
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| abranson_ | I'd not seen SoMe before | 13:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | abranson_, yeah not quite sure wha that is | 13:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I guess a name of their team | 13:30 |
| abranson_ | SebthreeBQM10HD: (So)cial (Me)dia! | 13:30 |
| Nicd- | everyone uses the word some here in Finland | 13:30 |
| Nicd- | though conveniently it is "sosiaalinen media" in Finnish so it fits | 13:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh | 13:31 |
| abranson_ | glad it wasn't just me! | 13:31 |
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| larstiq | only some understand that abbreviation | 13:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah | 13:38 |
| sledges | boom! | 13:41 |
| sledges | (both, to larstiq and to @JollaHQ)? | 13:41 |
| sledges | https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/786561574651752448 | 13:42 |
| sledges | https://plus.google.com/+jolla/posts/HeHSdWL7rk5 | 13:47 |
| sledges | https://www.facebook.com/jollaofficial/posts/1262017570516450 | 13:47 |
| sledges | share share share :DD | 13:47 |
| sledges | you want your neighbour to use linux, don't you ;) | 13:47 |
| r0kk3rz | definitely not | 13:50 |
| sledges | i should've looked up a definition of "neighbour" beforehand ;) | 13:51 |
| the_mgt | my neighbors dont even have computers. boom! | 13:51 |
| sledges | Everybody needs good neighbours r0kk3rz ;)) | 13:51 |
| sledges | with a little understaanding | 13:52 |
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| sledges | can you find the perfect blend? xD | 13:52 |
| tadzik | itshappening? | 13:53 |
| r0kk3rz | sledges: :D | 13:55 |
| abranson_ | rack off :D | 13:57 |
| locusf | some, not all | 13:58 |
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| Pawky|2 | Is the russian phone exactly the same as the other C phones? | 14:46 |
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| Pawky|2 | By the way, my current Jolla phone survived being dropped on the tarmac at 70km/h :-D | 14:49 |
| larstiq | Pawky|2: horizontal or vertical velocity? | 14:49 |
| Pawky|2 | Iphones cannot even take a drop from standing still... hows that for quality :-D | 14:49 |
| Pawky|2 | horizontal... | 14:49 |
| larstiq | bah :) | 14:50 |
| Pawky|2 | well... its not that its just stopping once it reaches tarmac | 14:50 |
| Pawky|2 | Go try dopping yours at 80 :-) | 14:50 |
| Pawky|2 | The vertical speed was 35km/h though... :-) | 14:52 |
| klopsi-u3 | nice re drop | 14:52 |
| Pawky|2 | So... no one knows wether the C phone sold to russia is the same as the one in Europe? | 14:54 |
| klopsi-u3 | i do not | 14:54 |
| r0kk3rz | do the russians use different bands? | 14:54 |
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| Pawky|2 | I don't know.. thats Why I ask in here :-) | 14:55 |
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| till | you can check in wikipedia | 14:59 |
| Pawky|2 | Has anyone heard anything when they will relase another batch of C phones or start selling them in Europe? | 15:01 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah thats unlikely to happen | 15:01 |
| sledges | why's that? | 15:01 |
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| Pawky|2 | r0kk3rz: are you trying to say the C phone is already dead? | 15:03 |
| Helle | it was essentially a developer only one off | 15:05 |
| r0kk3rz | s/developer/community | 15:06 |
| r0kk3rz | but yeah | 15:06 |
| r0kk3rz | unless sledges knows something :P ive seen nothing indicating more will be released | 15:06 |
| Pawky|2 | But whats the point selling developer phones if the phone itself is never getting sold... then I presume not much developing will ever take place... | 15:09 |
| mornfall | Pawky|2: ever heard of N950? :P | 15:09 |
| Pawky|2 | yes.. | 15:09 |
| Pawky|2 | of course | 15:09 |
| mornfall | Pawky|2: think of C as Jolla's N950 | 15:10 |
| r0kk3rz | Pawky|2: jolla c is the intex aqua fish | 15:10 |
| r0kk3rz | so the phones are getting sold | 15:10 |
| Pawky|2 | Well, but the N950 had a lot of limitations, to my knowledge this one hasnt... and the N950 was not yours to own... | 15:10 |
| r0kk3rz | just not in europe | 15:10 |
| Pawky|2 | so.. if I buy an intex aquafish, all I need to do is to put in sailfish? :-) | 15:11 |
| mornfall | Pawky|2: the C has a lot of limitations too | 15:11 |
| Pawky|2 | mornfall: such as? | 15:11 |
| mornfall | like no warranty | 15:11 |
| r0kk3rz | Pawky|2: what do you mean 'put in' it comes with sailfish | 15:12 |
| Pawky|2 | mornfall: well.. that does not apply in Europe... they have to have warranthy.. at least on the hardware | 15:12 |
| Pawky|2 | unless only seling to companies | 15:12 |
| r0kk3rz | but its got slightly different LTE bands, so ymmv | 15:12 |
| mornfall | Pawky|2: intex aquafish already runs sailfish | 15:12 |
| mornfall | that's the whole point | 15:12 |
| Pawky|2 | r0kk3rz: ohh. :-) | 15:12 |
| Pawky|2 | so.. then whats the difference between them? | 15:13 |
| mornfall | Pawky|2: no, they are not selling the phone... | 15:13 |
| mornfall | it's not a consumer product | 15:13 |
| * mornfall rolls eyes | 15:13 | |
| Pawky|2 | mornfall: well... they are selling to private people.. thats a consumer | 15:13 |
| Pawky|2 | thus at least in Sweden warranty must apply.. | 15:13 |
| mornfall | Pawky|2: are you just trolling? | 15:14 |
| r0kk3rz | Pawky|2: incorrect, you are buying into a community program that comes with a free phone | 15:14 |
| Pawky|2 | no... thats the case.. | 15:14 |
| r0kk3rz | community program costs 160€ | 15:14 |
| mornfall | r0kk3rz: we are being taken for a ride | 15:14 |
| larstiq | r0kk3rz: 136.29€ plus vat | 15:14 |
| Pawky|2 | you cannot take that away... the hardware should still be able to survive a year | 15:14 |
| mornfall | Pawky|2: it has no warranty, period | 15:15 |
| Pawky|2 | well.. let the courts decide that... ;-) | 15:15 |
| r0kk3rz | Pawky|2: yeah this has been argued, but until someone pushes it then it doesnt really matter | 15:15 |
| Pawky|2 | true | 15:15 |
| Pawky|2 | so... whats the fuzz about limited batches of C phones if you just can buy an intex aqua??? | 15:16 |
| r0kk3rz | either way, it probably will be a refund type of warranty rather than a usual repair | 15:16 |
| r0kk3rz | Pawky|2: aqua fish isnt sold in europe, has different modem | 15:16 |
| Pawky|2 | modem? | 15:17 |
| Pawky|2 | you mean bandwith? | 15:17 |
| r0kk3rz | LTE frequencies | 15:17 |
| Pawky|2 | looks like thats solvable https://together.jolla.com/question/142007/how-to-unlock-lte-bands-europe-on-intex-aqua-fish/ | 15:18 |
| Pawky|2 | :-) | 15:18 |
| r0kk3rz | read it first | 15:18 |
| mornfall | Pawky|2: go troll elsewhere, please? | 15:18 |
| Pawky|2 | mornfall: wtf? what are you talking about | 15:18 |
| Pawky|2 | r0kk3rz: ok... sounds fair, I know licensing hardware for different countries costs a fortune so I can imagine it doesnt have whats needed hardware wise... | 15:21 |
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| r0kk3rz | some people have imported aqua fish and are using it fine in EU, so it depends on your carrier | 15:22 |
| r0kk3rz | its just something to be aware of, but the aqua fish is quite cheap like 80€ | 15:23 |
| Pawky|2 | ok.. so the Jolla C sold in russia might actually be an aqua fish having non European frequencies?.. | 15:24 |
| r0kk3rz | no idea | 15:24 |
| r0kk3rz | it could be a third option, where its not indian bands or euro bands | 15:25 |
| Pawky|2 | worth looking into... I was so close buying a C when they released them, missed it by a minute or two | 15:25 |
| Pawky|2 | r0kk3rz: looks like I might be in luck, they use 800,1800 and 2600. The only band differing is the good old Swedish 900 | 15:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | sounds like the jolla c | 15:32 |
| Pawky|2 | (that was the frequiencies used in the countries not the phone ;-) ) | 15:33 |
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| Pawky|2 | the current jolla uses seems to also be able to use 850 and 1900mhz which is not used in sweden, still the phone works nicely using the other frequencies to I presume it should work :-) | 15:35 |
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| Pawky|2 | So... there is no way to change the modem frequency to use 2600 instead of 2300 ? | 15:53 |
| Pawky|2 | on an intex aqua fish? | 15:55 |
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| klopsi-u3 | Pawky|2: i haven't heard of cellphone modems being able to change frequency by software | 16:16 |
| klopsi-u3 | but i am not expert | 16:16 |
| Pawky|2 | Well.. I suppose hardware could use a spectrum of frequencies, but due to licensing one locks down which channels could be used. | 16:17 |
| Pawky|2 | software limitation isnt to uncommon these days... remember DVDs? :-) | 16:18 |
| klopsi-u3 | as usual the experts don't hang out in irc | 16:20 |
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| sakustar | what are the experts doing then?! | 16:36 |
| r0kk3rz | experting | 16:36 |
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| sakustar | where are the experts doing it?! | 16:38 |
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| sakustar | how do we get them on irc | 16:38 |
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| Acce | we become experts ourselves, and then we leave irc | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | experts are tired after long day | 19:02 |
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