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pdanekHello!10:26
pdanekDo you guys know if the new Google Pixel phones will have factory images available on developers.google.com/android/nexus/images ?10:27
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pdanekAnd as an alternative to potential death of Nexus, what do you think of OxygenOS on Oneplus?10:33
pdanekThey recently merged their chinese HydrogenOS and international OxygenOS into one to speed up the development10:34
pdanekAnd they recently announced the community beta builds for oneplus 310:34
pdanekWhich will have updates 2x per month10:35
Tofepdanek: there is the Pixel C, so why not10:48
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phlixi_olately i noticed the missing scrollbar on websites a lot15:37
phlixi_ois there a way to get a scrollbar on websites? i hate it if this "progressbar" is missing :-(15:38
temmi_hooit's a fad now that everybody got their bootstraps15:43
temmi_hoo... for the espresso hipster fvll stvck guys bootstrapping means installing twitter's "bootstrap" -named huge shitloads of boilerplate javascript-stylesheet-whathaveyou15:44
phlixi_oot is also missing with plain html, no js/css at all15:45
temmi_hoothe same thing pretty much means nobody has sections in their site any more, it's just a long scroll and you're supposed to not know how long it'll be15:45
temmi_hoono pages either15:45
temmi_hoojust the one long scroll15:45
temmi_hooif there are buttons to surf to a topic, it'll just prescroll you to the place you'd have scrolled to anyway15:45
phlixi_ocheck https://blog.fefe.de/ (as an example of plain html with no js or cs what so ever) no scrollbar...15:46
temmi_hooholy moly what html15:46
temmi_hooit might be a browser-coder style fad as well now that zwitter has made it not stylish to have scrollbars any more15:47
temmi_hoodunno15:47
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phlixi_o... https://together.jolla.com/question/110616/where-is-the-browser-scrollbar/ ...15:51
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Nicd-temmi_hoo: it has nothing to do with bootstrap16:52
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phlixibut of course temmi_hoo is right when whing that every idiot slaps a ton of js frameworks into everything to make a single ajax request or whatever (what could have been done in 10lines of js)17:45
phlixiwhining*17:46
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Nicd-bootstrap is nice though. I'm a horrible designer, bootstrap or similar frameworks make my sites look a bit better than dogcrap18:14
r0kk3rzits very overused though18:14
r0kk3rzonce you learn to spot it, its inescapable18:15
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Nicd-yeah18:16
Nicd-guess I could go PureCSS to get even sameller18:17
Nicd-smaller*18:17
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Nicd-25 KB vs 5 KB18:17
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r0kk3rzmeh, if you want to crank out a functional but otherwise inoffensive website with zero effort then bootstrap is where its at18:21
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