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| MoritzJT | got the log for a read tomorrow | 02:38 |
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| MoritzJT | thx! | 02:38 |
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| TMavica | When is next shippment? Today is 21 already | 06:05 |
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| Armadillo | is the new SailfishOS logo known to be under any license or do I have to ask the support about this? | 06:50 |
| chriadam | Jare: lbt: ^ do you know the answer there? | 06:55 |
| Nicd- | aaand contact sync doesn't work :/ | 06:57 |
| Nicd- | at least it keeps local changes but they're not uploaded | 06:58 |
| chriadam | with which service? in which direction? | 06:58 |
| Nicd- | 06:58 | |
| chriadam | if you can get me logs, I'll investigate. | 06:58 |
| Nicd- | getting the logs was a mess wasn't it? | 06:59 |
| chriadam | set an environment variable, trigger sync, pull logs | 07:00 |
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| Nicd- | can't get to it with SSH at work unfortunately | 07:03 |
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| Nicd- | but the contact sync has never worked for me, we even did the log thing way back. it recovered by itself for a short time and then failed with calendar sync | 07:06 |
| Nicd- | after factory reset apparently only calendar sync works and even that only partly | 07:06 |
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| Ingvix | Does anyone know a good way to stream music from a server to jolla? | 10:40 |
| Sidde | use an http server with mp3 files in a directory? | 10:42 |
| Sidde | maybe even m3u works for playlists. Don't know if the browser handles m3u though | 10:42 |
| Yaniel | I think the builtin media player can do m3u playlists that point at streams | 10:43 |
| baffer | I used mpd with http output and listened to the output stream with a browser | 10:46 |
| baffer | every now and then I had to refresh the stream though | 10:46 |
| baffer | it became annoying and I don't do it anymore | 10:47 |
| Ingvix | I just installed mpd yesterday but I sort of misunderstood the meaning of it as I thought smpc app would actually play the tracks to the phone | 10:47 |
| Ingvix | baffer, does the stream play even if the browser is not active/screen is off? | 10:48 |
| Yaniel | smpc is just a remote control | 10:48 |
| baffer | Ingvix: yes it does | 10:48 |
| Ingvix | yes, I noticed that | 10:48 |
| Ingvix | guess I could try it for fun but maybe look for more stable resolution | 10:50 |
| Ingvix | Sidde, should they be played in browser or mounting the directory to jolla? I'm still not all clear on all the possibilities of http | 10:52 |
| Sidde | Ingvix: play in the browser. just like opening any webpage | 10:52 |
| Sidde | Ingvix: the built in media player in the browser plays the mp3/m3u | 10:53 |
| Sidde | remebering that 15 years ago it existed pretty good http media browsing software | 10:54 |
| Sidde | open source stuff. Maybe something is still around | 10:54 |
| Ingvix | Sidde, oh, so I need to add that sort of software to my server for it to work? | 10:55 |
| Sidde | i normally listens to podcasts just by browsing up the mp3 file | 10:55 |
| Sidde | Ingvix: no, not really. Depending on how complex you want to do stuff | 10:55 |
| Sidde | Ingvix: if you put an mp3 file on a http server. The browser will play it | 10:55 |
| Sidde | and i assume that it will handle m3u files for playlists or streams as well | 10:56 |
| Sidde | but you could also do it as Yaniel said. Use the media player to play the m3u file | 10:56 |
| Nicd- | I have all my music on my server viewable with nginx's directory listings. problem is most of them are Apple Lossless so they can't be played :( | 10:56 |
| Sidde | Nicd-: do some backend magic and convert them realtime if the user agent is matched ;) | 10:57 |
| Nicd- | heh. I just wish devices had the Apple Lossless codec | 10:57 |
| Nicd- | I actually have an MP3 player and lossless files are converted to AAC on the fly when they are synced there | 10:58 |
| Ingvix | How can I play http streams from media player? | 10:58 |
| Sidde | Ingvix: create an m3u file with a http url parameter | 11:00 |
| Sidde | but this i have not tried | 11:00 |
| Ingvix | I'm guessing that without playlist or additional software on the server it only plays one file at the time in browser | 11:00 |
| Ingvix | I think I just start trying stuff and see where it goes | 11:00 |
| Sidde | Ingvix: yes, but i'm guessing there has to be scripts or software that can create m3u files of contents of a directory | 11:00 |
| Sidde | m3u files are pretty simple so it could be scripted pretty easily | 11:01 |
| Sidde | a simple file indexer with creating m3u files on the fly would be pretty easy to create. Especially if it's only a private http server so security can be "avoided" | 11:03 |
| Sidde | So if you're not good at scripting/programming it could be a very useful exercise too | 11:04 |
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| Ingvix | Not too experienced, no | 11:07 |
| Sidde | but to start. Just upload 1 mp3 on the http server and try it out. Then manuelly create an m3u file, download it and open it from the media player | 11:09 |
| Sidde | seems to exist a whole lot of php m3u generating scripts out there | 11:11 |
| Sidde | and probably a lot of php music libraries aswell | 11:12 |
| abranson | last time i tried the sf media player wasn't great with m3u files | 11:13 |
| abranson | i have a little perl website that indexes http browsable directories, then lets you search the results and get m3u files out. | 11:14 |
| Sidde | abranson: that's the way i would do it too | 11:14 |
| abranson | i don't think it liked the m3u files with http urls, but i don't quite remember | 11:14 |
| Sidde | ok | 11:15 |
| abranson | we wrote it years ago at work. 'distroplat' we called it. had a lovely picture of a platypus on the main page :D | 11:15 |
| abranson | but then everythign went dlna :/ | 11:15 |
| Sidde | dlna.... | 11:16 |
| Sidde | i tried migrating and the smart stuff in my tv to play my videos. probably the worst error handling i've ever seen... | 11:16 |
| Sidde | Panasonic VT50... | 11:17 |
| Sidde | so no thanks for dlna... | 11:17 |
| abranson | it's a huge mess isn't it. i don't think i've ever used it and had it work seamlessly | 11:19 |
| abranson | it's the corba of media sharing | 11:19 |
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| louisdk | Hi :) | 11:52 |
| Ingvix | browser's media player seems to try to play m3u-file as a video | 11:56 |
| abranson | must be using the gallery instead of the music app? | 11:57 |
| Ingvix | probably | 11:58 |
| abranson | you can pass an m3u to the jolla-mediaplayer and it sort of works. playlist gets added anyway, and you can play and skip the tracks. maybe we should change the associated app over. | 12:03 |
| Ingvix | should the location of the file in the m3u-file be just like "https://mysite.com/music/file.mp3? | 12:04 |
| Ingvix | forgot the last " | 12:04 |
| Ingvix | no, it needs something else | 12:05 |
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| Ingvix | to regonise it as url | 12:06 |
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| abranson | i always used #EXTINF:duration,title \n http://... | 12:09 |
| Ingvix | okay, so that's probably the extended m3u? | 12:11 |
| Ingvix | my pc's music player only seems to export simple m3u-files with only the paths | 12:11 |
| Ingvix | So I got to look it up | 12:12 |
| abranson | i think a simple list with a url on each line should work | 12:14 |
| abranson | maybe a header too. mine's #EXTM3U | 12:14 |
| Ingvix | let's see | 12:15 |
| abranson | i just passed the file as an arg to jolla-mediaplayer on the cmdline. local file for a test. | 12:16 |
| Ingvix | seems to work on my pc, now to jolla | 12:16 |
| Ingvix | I'm not quite sure how to start m3u file with the media player. If I open it from filecase it try's to open it as a text file | 12:19 |
| Ingvix | is there a command I could use in terminal? | 12:20 |
| Ingvix | okay got it | 12:24 |
| Ingvix | but it can't seem to play it though | 12:24 |
| abranson | yes: jolla-mediaplayer file.m3u | 12:25 |
| Ingvix | okay | 12:25 |
| Ingvix | won't play it with that either | 12:27 |
| abranson | maybe it just picked it up in my home dir! | 12:28 |
| Ingvix | [W] QGstreamerPlayerSession::processBusMessage:1323 - Error: "Invalid URI ""." | 12:28 |
| abranson | just a dot? | 12:29 |
| abranson | any extra chars in your file? | 12:29 |
| Ingvix | umm | 12:30 |
| Ingvix | I don't think so | 12:31 |
| Ingvix | pretty much like this: | 12:31 |
| Ingvix | #EXTM3U | 12:31 |
| Ingvix | https://myhost.com/path/to/file.mp3 | 12:31 |
| Ingvix | the file nime contains spaces though. Could that cause problems? | 12:33 |
| Ingvix | name* | 12:33 |
| louisdk | What is the latest SailfishOS version for Jolla C? | 12:33 |
| abranson | there's been no update to it yet, but i expect it'll get one when the 2.0.2 is released for everything | 12:35 |
| PeperJohnny | louisdk: 2.0.2.43 is running | 12:36 |
| Ingvix | I don't have a clue now | 12:38 |
| Ingvix | what's with the dot | 12:38 |
| louisdk | PeperJohnny, so .45 has been released for the aquafish but isn't out for the Jolla C yet? | 12:38 |
| abranson | Ingvix: spaces would most probably break it yes. replace them with + or %20 | 12:38 |
| PeperJohnny | louisdk: well at least I do not get an update notification and I'm in early adopters as well | 12:39 |
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| * louisdk is tempted to do a "ssu release 2.0.2.45;version --dup" | 12:41 | |
| PeperJohnny | louisdk: any news on what .45 fixes? | 12:42 |
| louisdk | PeperJohnny, I don't know. Hopefully we'll see a changelog on TJC once 2.0.2.x gets public. | 12:43 |
| Ingvix | abranson, no, it's something else. No matter what I type to the address it gives an error of empty URI | 12:50 |
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| Ingvix | hmm, I edited the m3u file in windows. Maybe that causes problems | 12:53 |
| Ingvix | i'll try dos2unix then | 12:54 |
| the_mgt | playlists simply do not work properly for me | 12:54 |
| till | i generate playlists by running "ls -1 *.mp3 > playlist.m3u" in the folder containing the mp3's | 12:55 |
| the_mgt | till: does it work if there are spaces in the name? | 12:57 |
| till | the_mgt yes | 12:59 |
| till | I guess a media player simply takes a line of such a file, wraps "" around and tries to open it :) | 12:59 |
| abranson | Ingvix: i think the windows line endings might be your culprit there yes | 13:00 |
| Ingvix | abranson, nope. I just realized it was the slashes pointing at wrong direction :D | 13:02 |
| Ingvix | going \ instead of / | 13:02 |
| Ingvix | now it works | 13:02 |
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| abranson | not sure what that's got to do with a single dot! glad it works though | 13:03 |
| Ingvix | abranson, the dot has nothing to do with the uri. It's just the end of the error description sentence: "Invalid URI ""." | 13:05 |
| Ingvix | the uri was empty | 13:05 |
| abranson | ah i see. got my quotes mixed up ;) | 13:07 |
| Ingvix | Now I wonder what would be the easiest way to create m3u with all my music files | 13:09 |
| Ingvix | I could create a normal m3u and have some script or something to replace the local path with the hostname | 13:17 |
| Ingvix | maybe | 13:17 |
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| till | do you use linux/unix? | 13:18 |
| Ingvix | I use windows and linux | 13:18 |
| Ingvix | both are available | 13:18 |
| Ingvix | the server is debian | 13:19 |
| till | on linux I would simply use a for `i in PATH/*mp3`; do echo "hostname://...$i >> file.m3u";done stuff | 13:20 |
| Ingvix | I try that, thanks | 13:21 |
| till | might have same bugs, but I hope you get the idea ;) | 13:21 |
| Ingvix | yes | 13:21 |
| Ingvix | hmm, what if I have other fileformats? How do I add them to the package | 13:22 |
| till | if you have no other files than the ones you want to add you can just use * instead of *mp3 | 13:24 |
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| till | or use find instead of for | 13:25 |
| ilpianista | is "Xiaobi Xu" here? | 13:26 |
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| till | or, much easier, just write PATH/*mp3 PATH *aac etc | 13:27 |
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| Ingvix | -bash: ``i in myPATH/*mp3`': not a valid identifier | 13:27 |
| till | sorry, mixed it up. either: "for i in PATH/*mp3; do ..." or "for i in `ls PATH/*mp3`; do ..." | 13:28 |
| Ingvix | ah | 13:28 |
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| Ingvix | it doesn't seem to put it in a file but just echo to terminal as output | 13:34 |
| Ingvix | now I go to shower though | 13:34 |
| till | append > file.m3u to the end, or rather >> file to append | 13:34 |
| Jope | no need to do an ls | 13:35 |
| Jope | the shell will gladly glob the wildcard for you | 13:35 |
| Jope | it actually globs it for ls too and then ls just prints it again | 13:35 |
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| Ingvix | I think I'll try some extm3u creator to create a file with the song lenghts and names first and then try to replace the index paths with the hostname. Nicer to have the info in the player | 13:42 |
| Ingvix | but now the shower | 13:42 |
| till | my files have id3 tags for the info | 13:42 |
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| Ingvix | but it seems that jolla's player don't want to read them or something and only uses the path after hostname as title | 13:45 |
| Ingvix | at least in my test.m3u | 13:45 |
| till | I only have local files, and there it's working as expected | 13:46 |
| till | afaik the id3 tags are stored at the end of mp3 files, that might be the problem here | 13:47 |
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| Sidde | Ingvix: https://together.jolla.com/question/82592/bug-stock-browser-unable-to-dowload-playlist/ | 13:49 |
| Sidde | Ingvix: to get the browser to download m3u | 13:49 |
| Sidde | user_pref("media.m3u.enabled", false); in prefs.js file | 13:50 |
| Nicd- | or curl? :) | 13:51 |
| Sidde | Nicd-: or just scp from the machine you want to copy it from | 13:52 |
| Sidde | Nicd-: but if you want to browse your own http server and get the playlist into the media player | 13:52 |
| Nicd- | rsync! | 13:52 |
| Sidde | Nicd-: nah, rsync is to modern for me ;) | 13:52 |
| Nicd- | yeah but if you just want to download a file and the browser doesn't want to do it, why not `curl url > file`? | 13:53 |
| Sidde | i prefer to echo the file through nc instead | 13:53 |
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| Sidde | Nicd-: but sometimes the terminal app is abit problematic. Would be much easier with a physical keyboard | 13:55 |
| Sidde | Nicd-: takes to long time to type while doing other stuff for example | 13:55 |
| Nicd- | oh yeah, I have TOHKBD | 13:56 |
| Nicd- | VKB sucks for the terminal | 13:56 |
| Sidde | that explains it... | 13:56 |
| Nicd- | but wouldn't you need to edit the prefs.js in the terminal anyway? | 13:56 |
| Sidde | Nicd-: you can do it in advance ;) | 13:56 |
| Sidde | Nicd-: via a computer | 13:57 |
| Sidde | like normal people ;) | 13:57 |
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| Sidde | i really would like to have the physical keyboards back on the front of a modern phone. I sail alot and using a smartphone with one hand and still pay attention to the sea and wind is impossible | 13:59 |
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| Sidde | I still would use my Ericsson T39m if it had 4g | 13:59 |
| Nicd- | I'm hoping they will build a proper keyboard for the Moto Z | 13:59 |
| Sidde | seems to me like the modern phone is made for people that spends most of their day commuting via trains/busses | 14:01 |
| Yaniel | I'm hoping someone will build a proper keyboard | 14:01 |
| Sidde | who needs large screens to avoid their pesky surroundings | 14:01 |
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| Sidde | and to be a media consumer for hours while not at their ordinary workstation | 14:01 |
| r0kk3rz | Sidde: what do you do on your phone whilst sailing? | 14:03 |
| Sidde | r0kk3rz: lots of stuff. Checking the weather forecast, making phone calls to other boats, taking photos. checking the news etc. | 14:03 |
| Sidde | r0kk3rz: 4g works really well on the sea nowadays | 14:03 |
| Sidde | r0kk3rz: most of the time when really needing the phone is to make calls. Dinner plans or to other boats on the sea. For example which course to use in spontanious races | 14:05 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah smartphone call features are kind of an after thought these days | 14:05 |
| r0kk3rz | its primary a portable internet device / camera | 14:06 |
| Sidde | i bought my jolla as a development platform for navigational software acctually | 14:07 |
| Sidde | but started using it as my only phone too | 14:07 |
| louisdk | I've difficulty adjusting to my Jolla C. I find it quite big and a bit bulky. Still using my Jolla 1 as the main phone. If I use some heavy Android apps I just use my tablet. | 14:15 |
| r0kk3rz | the colors on the j1 screen are better, but the rest of it is nice | 14:17 |
| r0kk3rz | i like the bigger size | 14:17 |
| Nicd- | it's bigger? | 14:17 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 14:17 |
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| r0kk3rz | j1: 131x68, jc 142x72 | 14:19 |
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| merlin1991 | j1 was allready too big for me (small hands) n9 had the perfec size | 17:03 |
| merlin1991 | the jollac now is so big that I always need both hands | 17:04 |
| mcfrisk | why doesnt ssh work from jollac terminal? | 17:04 |
| r0kk3rz | it does for me | 17:04 |
| mcfrisk | ping works but ssh doesnt, maybe need to reboot after enabling dev mode. weird. | 17:06 |
| mcfrisk | name resolv to ipv6 works but then it hangs, on jolla in same wlan it works. | 17:09 |
| mcfrisk | ipv6 problem on jollac then, ssh -4 works. | 17:11 |
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| mcfrisk | ok, also ping6 to kapsi.fi isnt working in jollac | 17:16 |
| mcfrisk | so, jolla with 2.0.1.11 Taalojärvi has working ipv6 but jollac with 2.0.2.43 Aurajoki doesn't, link addresses seem to be correct but either DNS or routing is broken | 17:22 |
| mcfrisk | actually, DNS seems to be working fine for ssh so it must be routing | 17:23 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah im on ipv4 | 17:29 |
| abranson | Working here on mine over ipv6 | 17:40 |
| abranson | Ssh to my server, logout, then relog and it reports ipv6 address as last login | 17:41 |
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| louisdk | When I try to run "vi /etc/hostname" as root under SailfishOS I get this error: "E437: terminal capability "cm" required". | 18:56 |
| Jope | export TERM=xterm | 18:57 |
| louisdk | Jope: "export TERM=vt100" worked as well but thx :) | 18:58 |
| Jope | good old vt100 | 18:59 |
| Jope | 40 years and still going strong | 18:59 |
| Yaniel | what is the default term even | 18:59 |
| Jope | probably not set at all -> glass tty | 18:59 |
| Yaniel | eww | 18:59 |
| louisdk | When I ran echo $TERM i get "terminator". I guess Sailfish doesn't know how to handle that terminal? | 19:00 |
| Yaniel | so that's why nothing works by default | 19:00 |
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| Jope | terminator doesn't sound like a terminal with a termcap | 19:03 |
| merlin1991 | just put a termcap on the device | 19:04 |
| merlin1991 | my terminal is st so I have the termcap in $HOME/.terminfo/s/ and all is good | 19:04 |
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| Ingvix | It's a bit sad that there's no way of getting the artist of a song to show where it should if a playlist is streamed to media player. Media player won't read the mp3tags from streamed songs and at least I couldn't find a way to add artist names to m3u file. They are only noted as a part of the title | 19:33 |
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| louisdk | I'm transferring files over SSH from Jolla 1 to C and a few seconds after the screen goes off the phone goes into suspend mode and my SCP session freezes until I wake my phone up by double tapping the screen. | 19:37 |
| r0kk3rz | louisdk: thats normal | 19:45 |
| louisdk | r0kk3rz: why isn't the phone configured to not to into such deep suspend when an operation is in action? | 19:47 |
| kimmoli | louisdk: i use mcetool -Ddim | 19:50 |
| kimmoli | ssh should be patched with libiphb/nemokeepalive then | 19:51 |
| louisdk | I see the backup settings have been changed in 2.0.2. It's sad that you can no longer restore a backup that's saved in ~/.vault. | 19:52 |
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| louisdk | The sim card slots on the Jolla C/Intex Aquafish seems pretty troublesome. How would I remove a sim card from it? | 20:59 |
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