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| taaem | out for delivery \o/ | 06:54 |
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| LarstiQ | taaem: did they give a timeframe for delivery, or just "today"? | 07:11 |
| abranson | mine too! | 07:13 |
| taaem | LarstiQ: on the tracking site they say before 6pm | 07:14 |
| taaem | but nothing more | 07:14 |
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| LarstiQ | taaem: keep us posted :) | 07:18 |
| taaem | i will :P | 07:18 |
| taaem | i hope i'm home when it arrives... | 07:19 |
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| r0kk3rz | taaem: i'll race you :P | 07:33 |
| r0kk3rz | except i definitely wont be home when it arrives | 07:33 |
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| taaem | r0kk3rz: lets see who wins :P | 07:35 |
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| kimmoli | luckily i got mine from ISCE, this paper-boy came is so thrilling | 07:37 |
| kimmoli | *game | 07:37 |
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| TMavica | Any fmradio apps preinstalled in jolla c? | 08:39 |
| Temppu-Teme | Jolla C has fm receiver? O_o | 08:39 |
| r0kk3rz | Temppu-Teme: jolla 1 had fm receiver too | 08:40 |
| kimmoli | TMavica: yep, integrated in media | 08:40 |
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| Temppu-Teme | never knew that | 08:41 |
| Temppu-Teme | fm transmitter would have been cool | 08:41 |
| r0kk3rz | heh i guess you could get a USB SDR and hook it up to the spare usb port on the fairphone | 08:43 |
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| mal- | the same chip has an fm transmitter also but whether it works with the current wire connections is another question, I have done some testing of fm transmitter on fp2 without luck yet, need to figure out the correct initialization sequence, I did initial version of the fm radio middleware which is also used in jolla c so I have some knowledge of that stuff | 08:45 |
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| M-schmittlauch | "Shipment Delayed In Transit Recovery Actions Underway" | 10:20 |
| M-schmittlauch | ??? | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | M-schmittlauch: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nvLlj8ivSAw/hqdefault.jpg ? | 10:25 |
| LarstiQ | M-schmittlauch: heuh? | 10:27 |
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| taaem | its here \o/ | 10:35 |
| taaem | r0kk3rz: did i win? | 10:35 |
| r0kk3rz | taaem: you did, congrats | 10:35 |
| taaem | thanks | 10:35 |
| taaem | it feels good | 10:46 |
| r0kk3rz | i hope mine is waiting for me when i get home :) | 10:48 |
| r0kk3rz | ah they just tried delivery | 10:48 |
| r0kk3rz | close race | 10:48 |
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| taaem | okay i just added a dropbox account and got an email that a new login with safari on linux happend :D | 10:58 |
| the_mgt | one phone to bind them all | 11:01 |
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| Yaniel | safari on linux? tell me more about it | 11:18 |
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| taaem-m | o/ | 11:27 |
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| Armadillo | oh come on tnt, still no delivery today.. | 11:40 |
| Armadillo | my tracking history already reached 23 stations, I'm going crazy soon I think... | 11:40 |
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| abranson | i was stupidly out when the delivery came, but they left it in the postbox! | 11:46 |
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| Armadillo | abranson you lucky guy ;) | 11:52 |
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| lainwir3d | taaem: got mine yesterday ;-) | 12:14 |
| lainwir3d | I broke my Jolla 1 glass screen, 30 seconds later TNT guy called me to know if I was home to deliver the Jolla C | 12:15 |
| lainwir3d | talk about timing! | 12:15 |
| r0kk3rz | the corner of my j1 has a nice dent from when i dropped it the other day | 12:15 |
| ballock | lainwir3d: I broke my Nokia e51 just before I got the Jolla1 | 12:15 |
| abranson | the top of bezel of mine is so battered there's bare metal all the way along | 12:16 |
| ballock | I was mad for loosing range, that was totally not e51's fault, I threw it to the ground with full force. | 12:16 |
| ballock | If I wasn't aware my Jolla1 is shipping soon, I wouldn't have done that. | 12:16 |
| ballock | lainwir3d: still a pity, Jolla1 is nice hardware, you could have restrained yourself, you know? | 12:17 |
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| lainwir3d | haha | 12:18 |
| lainwir3d | not on purpose | 12:18 |
| lainwir3d | though it makes me wonder if it's not my subconcious | 12:18 |
| r0kk3rz | i hope to keep my jphone for cbeta | 12:18 |
| Yaniel | same | 12:18 |
| lainwir3d | well it's still working though, just a bit cutting under the thumb lol | 12:18 |
| Yaniel | well, early access but anyway | 12:18 |
| lainwir3d | cbeta? | 12:18 |
| Yaniel | also for following the OS | 12:19 |
| Yaniel | OS's development | 12:19 |
| r0kk3rz | lainwir3d: community beta group, for early early access | 12:19 |
| lainwir3d | oooh | 12:19 |
| r0kk3rz | talk to sledges if you want to join | 12:19 |
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| Yaniel | hmm I could do that, my jolla is currently just an mp3 player I use in the evenings | 12:20 |
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| Yaniel | because of quasarmx's sleep timers | 12:20 |
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| M-schmittlauch | After testing I'm going to sell the JollaC to someone else because I realized just 1 hour after ordering it that my Jolla 1 is still good enough. | 12:21 |
| M-schmittlauch | So it better doesn't break D: | 12:21 |
| Yaniel | sledges: ping | 12:21 |
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| lainwir3d | does the Jolla C has OTG? | 13:26 |
| lainwir3d | usb otg | 13:26 |
| lainwir3d | apparently not | 13:28 |
| lainwir3d | usb audio headphones not working | 13:28 |
| lainwir3d | that's too bad :-( | 13:28 |
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| lainwir3d | or maybe there is, but no necessary drivers installed | 13:29 |
| lainwir3d | because I have some sort of reaction in dmesg | 13:29 |
| tbr | usb headphones? wtf? | 13:29 |
| Nicd- | tbr: the latest phones don't even have headphone jacks ;) | 13:30 |
| r0kk3rz | headphone jacks, so last century | 13:30 |
| Nicd- | digital headphones are the latest in useless but forced technology | 13:30 |
| lainwir3d | tbr: new sort of cool stuff. Works pretty well on Jolla tablet | 13:30 |
| tbr | "yay" | 13:30 |
| louisdk | I've a hard time getting used to my Jolla C. It's quite big espcially when using a generic leather case which fits a 5,1" phone. | 13:31 |
| Nicd- | my friend has a usb gaming headset. he used it on my computer once and after that it took me an hour to get the sounds working again :D | 13:31 |
| lainwir3d | well I'm working for Parrot on the Parrot Zik 3 headphones | 13:31 |
| lainwir3d | which, among bluetooth and jack, you can plug in usb | 13:31 |
| Temppu-Teme | so what's the advantage of usb? | 13:32 |
| lainwir3d | actually, I don't have to trust the crappy audio DAC phones usually have, so it's quite better | 13:32 |
| lainwir3d | Temppu-Teme: audio is sent digitally | 13:32 |
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| Nicd- | how many people actually care about the DAC? | 13:33 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah the benefit is you get to bring your own DAC, the downside is that you have to | 13:33 |
| Temppu-Teme | well it gets converted to analog at some point.. | 13:33 |
| lainwir3d | no digital to analog from the phone to the jack, the analog to digital headphones side | 13:33 |
| Nicd- | the point is they can sell you new headphones and implement DRM :P | 13:33 |
| lainwir3d | Temppu-Teme: yeah, but in case of powered headphones that do quite a lot of computing, I prefer it to be done at the last moment | 13:34 |
| Temppu-Teme | i care about the dac and obviously have a decent one in usb :P | 13:34 |
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| Temppu-Teme | lainwir3d: yeah makes sense | 13:34 |
| lainwir3d | that way, it's kept digital until conversion to actual audio | 13:34 |
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| Temppu-Teme | so the headphones you mentioned have both usb and headphone jack connector? wonder how that looks like | 13:36 |
| lainwir3d | Nicd-: well, for "low-end headphones", it's pretty much increase the price because now you actually have to put some kind of processor inside. | 13:36 |
| lainwir3d | but I think Apple is planning some "intelligent" lightning cable, with jack output. Clever marketing stunt | 13:37 |
| Temppu-Teme | is there just two connectors of which the one that is not plugged in is just hanging there? | 13:37 |
| Nicd- | lainwir3d: then you can't listen while charging without an adapter | 13:37 |
| Nicd- | so much genious in this change | 13:37 |
| lainwir3d | Temppu-Teme: there is a jack female socket, and a usb one used both for charging and eventually usb audio | 13:37 |
| Temppu-Teme | ahaa | 13:38 |
| lainwir3d | Temppu-Teme: http://img.clubic.com/08156992-photo-parrot-zik-3-2.jpg | 13:38 |
| lainwir3d | Nicd-: in which case ? Usb-audio allows both charging and listening, but yeah with their adaptator I don't know what will actually happen :-/ | 13:39 |
| lainwir3d | for most people, I agree it only means "have to buy new headphones that are more expensive to do the same for my new phone without audio jack" | 13:40 |
| Nicd- | lainwir3d: you plug your usb headphones to the usb slot | 13:42 |
| Nicd- | now you no longer have an usb slot to charge your phone | 13:42 |
| Nicd- | moar adapters | 13:42 |
| lainwir3d | oh. Yeah. | 13:43 |
| lainwir3d | except if they put both on the adapter | 13:43 |
| lainwir3d | anyway, yeah, sucks. | 13:44 |
| lainwir3d | or, now that they own beats, do a special headphones / battery that charges up your phone :D | 13:44 |
| Nicd- | both on the _adapter_, yes, you found the adapter I was talking about | 13:45 |
| Nicd- | I'm not talking about Apple only, seems Moto Z is doing this too | 13:45 |
| lainwir3d | really? Didn't know that. | 13:45 |
| lainwir3d | :-( | 13:45 |
| Nicd- | of course then you need more adapters in the house because Apple uses lightning and others use USB-C | 13:45 |
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| kimmoli | lainwir3d: otg is not working on C, seems the ID pin might not be even routed. hard to say from layout due possibilty of embedded vias, but no visible track. also no pullup on device side per measurement | 14:18 |
| lainwir3d | crap :-( | 14:25 |
| lainwir3d | kimmoli: I was wondering because I saw some logs from "msm_otg" in dmesg | 14:25 |
| lainwir3d | I thought it was encouraging | 14:26 |
| tbr | the MSM kernel always comes with the OTG state machine | 14:26 |
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| tbr | and as we know from SbJ it is a b*tch to try and short circuit that into believing it should do host mode anyway | 14:27 |
| tbr | I very much welcome people to try though. A solution would likely work on both the C and SbJ | 14:27 |
| tbr | (and aquafish) | 14:27 |
| lainwir3d | :-( | 14:28 |
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| kimmoli | Onyx has DWC3 and it works great | 14:31 |
| lainwir3d | dwc3 ? | 14:33 |
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| kimmoli | usb3 | 14:40 |
| kimmoli | in defconfig, i disabled m | 14:41 |
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| kimmoli | all other otg stuff, just dwc3 still enabled | 14:41 |
| kimmoli | started to tinker droidcam support for third camera | 14:42 |
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| Armadillo | is there any information if JollaC supports CSFB for VoLTE? | 15:37 |
| till | isn't csfb used if no volte is available? | 15:40 |
| till | afaik sailfish does not support volte at all, so csfb is used while being on lte | 15:41 |
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| louisdk | Awesome. I've tried to move some Android files from /opt/alien/data/data/appfoldermnu from my Jolla 1 to Jolla C without any luck. All files have same ownership and chmod rules. | 18:35 |
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| svuorela | so. has jollac | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | good | 18:43 |
| svuorela | is backup to memory card on old jolla and restore on new the best way to move data across, or are there something smarter? | 18:45 |
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| Stskeeps | personally i just moved /home/nemo. | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:47 |
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| svuorela | oh. and it uses a newer sailfish version than what my other devices has access to ... | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | eklusive | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:58 |
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| kimmoli | urf, phone without dt2w feels just stupid | 19:02 |
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| chep_ | hi, is there a way to make a Backup.tar from terminal? | 19:18 |
| chep_ | maybe with vault or the-vault command? | 19:19 |
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| junnuvi | touch Backup.tar :D | 21:36 |
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| taaem | can i somehow change my username on account.jolla.com? | 21:43 |
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| chep_ | junnuvi: thanks :P | 22:02 |
| chep_ | I even installed lipstick2vnc to my old broken phone but it seems to be view only | 22:03 |
| chep_ | it's very frustrating to see that copy button but not be able to push it | 22:03 |
| chep_ | the button that would copy the backup to sd | 22:04 |
| chep_ | problem is that the lower part of the touch screen is broken | 22:04 |
| Lieke | hm, shouldn't it be possible to rotate it upside-down? | 22:07 |
| chep_ | yeah I'm trying to find out how to do that | 22:08 |
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| Lieke | there's this https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-allow-any-orientation-all-sailfishos-applications | 22:12 |
| HtheB | damn | 22:14 |
| HtheB | many of my Android apps are NOT compatible with Jolla C :/ | 22:14 |
| HtheB | cant even install them :( | 22:14 |
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| sakustar | like wat | 22:18 |
| HtheB | sakustar: Flitsmeister | 22:19 |
| HtheB | Namaz Vakti Pro | 22:19 |
| HtheB | those are 2 quick apps that I've know of that it's not installable as an apk either | 22:19 |
| HtheB | neither using the Play Store | 22:19 |
| HtheB | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.flitsmeister | 22:20 |
| HtheB | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobilexsoft.ezanvakti | 22:20 |
| HtheB | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobilexsoft.ezanvaktiproplus | 22:20 |
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| HtheB | all of these apps should just work fine with the Android version that Jolla C has, but somehow... it doesn't :/ | 22:21 |
| chep_ | Lieke: yeah found that too and trying to install | 22:22 |
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| chep_ | there's also a region in the middle that doesn't work so hopefully I don't need to touch there either :D | 22:23 |
| HtheB | sakustar: Have you checked it out? | 22:32 |
| chep_ | Lieke: haha I think I did it | 22:45 |
| Lieke | great :) | 22:46 |
| chep_ | unfortunately I checked the screen settings and changed from dynamic to portrait | 22:46 |
| chep_ | and then I couldn't change it to any other setting | 22:46 |
| chep_ | but luckily I have my TOH keyboard and that seemed to toggle the horizontal rotation in the settings :D | 22:47 |
| chep_ | ...with the patches of course | 22:47 |
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