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| nander | Hi guys. I think I'm starting to like my jolla again | 00:23 |
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| nander | I hated it passionately for a couple of months now | 00:23 |
| nander | But I just realised I've been trying to use it the wrong way | 00:24 |
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| nander | After I rebalanced the btrfs it actually started to speed up again | 00:24 |
| nander | And for the fun of it I started running a django server on it through the development mode | 00:25 |
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| nander | Which is something I never expected it to be able to do | 00:25 |
| nander | I hated the MTP, but today I realised I could just use sshfs instead | 00:25 |
| nander | Which is the most stable way I've ever transferred files to a mobile | 00:25 |
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| gan | hi | 03:37 |
| gan | my jolla is not starting when i press power button | 03:37 |
| gan | please help | 03:37 |
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| Stskeeps | put it in charger? | 03:42 |
| gan | yesterday i ran btrfs-balancer | 03:43 |
| gan | it cleaned memory....and afterwards i ran app registry rebuild | 03:44 |
| gan | then after a while the led notification light blinked in green and red few times i think and switched off. then when i tried switching it on, nothing happened. no light or vibration too. | 03:45 |
| gan | but i am sure battery is pretty much 90% or so... | 03:45 |
| gan | and also put it in charger throughout the night | 03:45 |
| gan | to try in morning. | 03:45 |
| gan | nothing happened still | 03:45 |
| gan | i also tried starting in recovery mode | 03:45 |
| gan | no use | 03:45 |
| gan | please help | 03:46 |
| Stskeeps | gan: recovery mode should work for most parts, check if it brings up a usb network interface, see https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607 | 03:47 |
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| gan | it does not work | 03:51 |
| gan | i already tried...pressing volume down key and power button | 03:51 |
| gan | :-( | 03:51 |
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| Stskeeps | it shows jolla logo? | 03:55 |
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| gan | there is no logo | 04:23 |
| gan | in screen | 04:23 |
| gan | its blank | 04:23 |
| gan | no vibration | 04:23 |
| gan | also i tried with another battery which is working in my friends mobile jolla | 04:23 |
| gan | it doesnt start | 04:23 |
| Stskeeps | what did you do.. | 04:24 |
| gan | i ran btrfs and cleared memory | 04:24 |
| gan | it was fine for a while. | 04:25 |
| gan | then i ran app registry rebuild | 04:25 |
| gan | and thats it | 04:25 |
| gan | it switched off...from then this issue | 04:25 |
| Stskeeps | okay, then take out usb cable, pull battery, hold down volume button down while putting in the battery again, and press power button while still holding down volume button down | 04:27 |
| Stskeeps | it will show a jolla logo | 04:27 |
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| gan | that doesnt work either | 04:32 |
| gan | i already tried recovery mode several times | 04:32 |
| gan | no vibration | 04:32 |
| Stskeeps | that's not good | 04:34 |
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| gan | any solution for that? | 05:20 |
| Stskeeps | if you can't get into recovery mode you should try fastboot mode | 05:20 |
| gan | how | 05:25 |
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| r0kk3rz | gan: theres instructions on the zendesk | 07:45 |
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| gan | where ? | 07:54 |
| gan | r0kk3rz: | 07:54 |
| gan | can u send me the link | 07:54 |
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| r0kk3rz | my bad, not zendesk, merwiki https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sailfish/Backup_Device | 08:02 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | r0kk3rz: out of curiosity | 08:22 |
| SfietKonstantinW | how are the qualcomm blobs handled ? | 08:22 |
| SfietKonstantinW | are they rediustrubuted ? | 08:22 |
| r0kk3rz | afaik you have to split and reassemble the bootimg... | 08:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ok | 08:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I see a ready to download boot.img | 08:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | thtt's why | 08:24 |
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| gan | hi | 11:49 |
| gan | everyone | 11:50 |
| gan | guys i need your help | 11:50 |
| gan | my jolla phone does not start after pressing start button | 11:50 |
| gan | lainwir3d: are you there? | 11:50 |
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| Milo- | gan https://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-computer-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/?sort=votes&page=1 this did not work? | 11:58 |
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| gan | hi | 13:02 |
| gan | can anyone help me to fix my mobile | 13:02 |
| gan | my phone doesnt start | 13:02 |
| gan | no vibration or LED | 13:02 |
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| Renault | gan: can you answer to Milo- question? | 13:22 |
| Renault | this question: Milo-gan https://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-computer-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/?sort=votes&page=1 this did not work? | 13:22 |
| gan | no it didnt work | 13:22 |
| gan | i could not go into recovery mode | 13:22 |
| gan | the phone just dont respond | 13:23 |
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| urs | as a physicist, my first intuition would be to measure if the battery actually provides any voltage. | 13:28 |
| gan | battery is not an issue | 13:30 |
| gan | as i also tried starting with my friend's jolla phone battery | 13:30 |
| gan | it didnt respond | 13:30 |
| gan | his phone was working fine | 13:30 |
| urs | Hmkay. Then it could be... any other sort of electrical fault, or a firmware bit flipped. | 13:32 |
| till | I would give him some hours without battery and then try again | 13:32 |
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| gan | ohh | 13:34 |
| tbr | there are ways to check, but you need to go through them carefully and diligently. #exactsteps so to say | 13:34 |
| gan | please tell the exact steps | 13:34 |
| gan | i will follow it please.... | 13:34 |
| tbr | what is the OS running on your computer? | 13:34 |
| gan | if i cant get this phone working, then my TOHKBD will go waste....its brand new!!!!! | 13:34 |
| gan | probably put it on sale here | 13:34 |
| gan | hardly used few times... | 13:35 |
| gan | my computer ?? windows 7 | 13:35 |
| gan | till: i will remove the battery as you say for few hours....and try again | 13:35 |
| Yaniel | What did you do before it stopped working? | 13:35 |
| tbr | meh, windows... | 13:36 |
| till | but don't mix different attempts, finish one before you try the next one | 13:36 |
| gan | [18:58] <gan> also to give a background, my phone has the latest OS version...and few days it was too slow, android apps didnt work, also my contacts and messages were not working...then i ran btrfs-balancer to clear the memory.... | 13:37 |
| tbr | maybe someone in here knows how to properly walk through testing out fastboot | 13:37 |
| gan | yesterday i got back the phone and message app working... then i ran registry app rebuild | 13:37 |
| gan | and it asked for security code and got switched off. afterwards i was unable to start the phone | 13:37 |
| gan | thats it. | 13:38 |
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| gan | i removed battery now, will put again after few hours | 13:42 |
| gan | if it doesnt work still, what next? | 13:42 |
| gan | anyone wants a brand new TOHKBD black carbon fiber finish? just used few times to test it after purchase. | 13:43 |
| Yaniel | You didn't run the btrfs balance like you were told to? | 13:43 |
| gan | i did Yaniel.... | 13:43 |
| gan | i ran the btrfs successfully and it finished 100%. then i ran btrfs fi show and it displayed 8.25 Gib used compared to earlier 13.5 Gib | 13:44 |
| gan | thats when the apps started working actually...like contacts and messages....but afterwards, i just ran the app registry rebuild....and after which, the phone refused to start.... | 13:44 |
| gan | i am baffled by that | 13:44 |
| gan | i was so confident that if the OS has issues, atleast i can do reset my device now that memory issue is solved...... | 13:45 |
| gan | but didnt expect the phone to die on me | 13:45 |
| till | did you restart the phone between the btrfs balance and the app registry rebuild? | 13:46 |
| gan | yes i did | 13:46 |
| gan | thats when the contacts and messages became visible | 13:46 |
| till | without any issues? | 13:46 |
| gan | and the UI seemed to be fine | 13:46 |
| Ingvix | What music player would you recommend? Are there better ones than the jolla's own? | 13:47 |
| gan | yes | 13:48 |
| gan | it took a lot of time to reboot after btrfs but everything seemed to be working again...... | 13:48 |
| till | okay, have you read!! and tried https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607-How-do-I-use-the-Recovery-Mode- ? | 13:49 |
| gan | yes many times... | 13:49 |
| till | and you get no vibration, no led and no screen reaction? | 13:50 |
| gan | no :( | 13:50 |
| gan | before running btrfs , i was able to go into recovery mode many times.....but i was unable to reset it | 13:51 |
| gan | due to memory issues | 13:51 |
| gan | i wish i can get the phone to start again.... | 13:51 |
| gan | so i can reset it atleast.... | 13:51 |
| gan | jolla is my 4th phone in 16 years of my mobile usage..... nokia 8210, nokia 6680, N900, and Jolla...... | 13:52 |
| gan | Even N900 died on me like this and i was unable to start it | 13:53 |
| till | so it might be a hardware issue, if there is no response.. maybe some fuses or some uncleared caches... I would try the leave it without battery for some hours and then try again, as I said before... | 13:53 |
| gan | and now Jolla has the same fate i guess | 13:53 |
| till | I had to reflash mine some months ago, but I was able to enter rescue mode at least | 13:53 |
| gan | ok i will check that, hope it works out... | 13:54 |
| gan | yes i resetted mine few months back,... | 13:54 |
| till | if that does not work, maybe you can leave a charger connected for some time... | 13:54 |
| till | but that's all voodoo ;) | 13:54 |
| gan | with battery or without battery? | 13:54 |
| till | maybe try both | 13:54 |
| gan | i dont have a choice but to believe in voodoo now | 13:55 |
| gan | yes last night i had the charger connected to it overnight with battery, nothing worked | 13:55 |
| gan | today morning | 13:55 |
| gan | i will do that. hope it wont do more damage | 13:55 |
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| till | my brother had a lg android phone which died out of nothing, maybe it got to hot or so | 13:56 |
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| Renault | sometimes a device should have hardware trouble without reasons | 13:57 |
| gan | that sucks | 13:57 |
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| Renault | it happens in electronic industry (that my case) | 13:57 |
| gan | wish i had ordered for turing phone or jolla c atleast | 13:57 |
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| gan | i bought jolla for twice the money from finland when it launched..... price was almost half of it when it was launched in india.... | 13:58 |
| gan | atleast if intex sailfish is released now, i would not bother much about this..... | 13:58 |
| gan | now i dont have a choice but to go for android phone if jolla doesnt work | 13:58 |
| till | I was just about to say that | 13:58 |
| till | can't you get an aqua fish soon? | 13:58 |
| gan | aquafish is not launched yet isnt it | 13:59 |
| Renault | gan: you are in India? What do you think about Tizen devices? | 13:59 |
| gan | it was supposed to come in april..now no news on that | 13:59 |
| gan | tizen is not popular here..... | 13:59 |
| gan | just i see one samsung model with tizen OS here.... indian market is flooded with android crap from china | 14:00 |
| gan | infact i was thinking to get one lol yesterday...... | 14:00 |
| Renault | Samsung announced 3 millions devices saled (with bangladesh too), it's few for India market I think but much than all Jolla devices around the world | 14:00 |
| gan | yes.... this xiaomi and Le co phones are selling like hot cakes in few seconds after launch online | 14:01 |
| gan | its difficult to get them | 14:01 |
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| gan | Renault where are you from? | 14:01 |
| Renault | France | 14:02 |
| gan | i am too scared to go to old age now | 14:02 |
| gan | cant use android for god sake | 14:02 |
| gan | i have been maemo / sailfish user for 7 years | 14:02 |
| till | i'm glad I have my n8 as backup phone | 14:02 |
| gan | i have a C7....but screen is too small..... | 14:03 |
| till | mine ist just slow as hell | 14:04 |
| gan | i wish my N900 was working atleast..... i have been trying to get it repaired two years back...but no hardware parts | 14:04 |
| gan | available | 14:04 |
| Renault | gan: I had a N900 too :) | 14:05 |
| gan | what happened now | 14:06 |
| Renault | but it's difficult to get a Tizen phone in India? Oh :( | 14:07 |
| gan | no its available | 14:07 |
| gan | i think only from samsung i guess | 14:08 |
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| gan | http://www.snapdeal.com/search?keyword=tizen&santizedKeyword=&catId=&categoryId=0&suggested=false&vertical=&noOfResults=48&searchState=&clickSrc=go_header&lastKeyword=&prodCatId=&changeBackToAll=false&foundInAll=false&categoryIdSearched=&cityPageUrl=&categoryUrl=&url=&utmContent=&dealDetail=&sort=rlvncy | 14:08 |
| Renault | I would be interested, but no plan for Europe | 14:09 |
| gan | ur not happy with sailfish? | 14:09 |
| Renault | To test :) | 14:09 |
| gan | oh ok | 14:09 |
| Jope | gan, I have a cib n900 for sale :-) | 14:10 |
| gan | what is cib | 14:10 |
| Jope | complete in box | 14:10 |
| Renault | and now I ordered a Jolla C, before that, I'm without SailfishOS device, and Firefox OS is finished (and the ZTE Open C has very bad spec) :( | 14:11 |
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| phlixi_o | gan where are you? india? | 14:12 |
| Renault | Jope: how many and where are you shipping? | 14:12 |
| Jope | just one, finland | 14:12 |
| Renault | how many price instead :P | 14:12 |
| gan | yes phlixi_o india | 14:12 |
| Jope | the device is used but all the accessories are there, most are untouched.. only the battery is used. | 14:13 |
| gan | thats nice Jope | 14:13 |
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| gan | what price | 14:13 |
| Jope | uh, 150e / make me an offer? | 14:13 |
| Jope | I haven't really thought about it very much | 14:13 |
| phlixi_o | gan: interested in my old n900? heavily used for the time it was new until n9 launched (actually a few months longer) but nothing broken... | 14:13 |
| Jope | I won't get offended by any offer so feel free to send a price | 14:14 |
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| Renault | I think N900 was the best device ever (for me), but spec are very poor :( After two years, I couldn't listen music and browse on the Web at the same time | 14:16 |
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| gan | too costly for me Jope :) | 14:17 |
| Jope | what is a reasonable price to you? | 14:18 |
| gan | there are few available for 100 USD and less in india | 14:18 |
| gan | how much phlixi_o ? | 14:18 |
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| phlixi_o | i have no idea :D | 14:18 |
| gan | just curious | 14:18 |
| gan | where are you from | 14:19 |
| gan | phlixi_o: | 14:19 |
| phlixi_o | just checked, shipping might be 16eur from here (germany) to india | 14:19 |
| gan | anyone wants my TOHKBD? | 14:19 |
| gan | brand new hardly used twice for testing purpose | 14:20 |
| gan | black carbon fibre finish | 14:20 |
| Jope | gan, so still waiting for your counter offer :-) | 14:20 |
| gan | hehehe Jope | 14:20 |
| gan | i am looking to find a sailfish device for now | 14:20 |
| Renault | gan: you can swap the keyboard with a new N900 :D | 14:20 |
| Jope | :-) | 14:20 |
| gan | :-) | 14:20 |
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| gan | i want cash for that, just incase i need to send my jolla to care for repair | 14:21 |
| Renault | anyone with the jolla C here? | 14:21 |
| gan | jolla C has already been shipped? | 14:21 |
| gan | i am thinking Jolla C will be same as intex aquafish | 14:21 |
| gan | God, wont they launch it sooner | 14:22 |
| gan | ? | 14:22 |
| phlixi_o | some people got their jolla c (around) last week when they visited jolla in person | 14:22 |
| phlixi_o | others will get it soon i guess | 14:22 |
| Renault | the Jolla C could be got by some people invited in Helsink event | 14:22 |
| Renault | and I'm curious about the cover | 14:23 |
| * kimmoli hides my jollaC | 14:26 | |
| gan | kimmoli: :-P | 14:27 |
| gan | oh cool | 14:29 |
| gan | any idea when aquafish will be launched? | 14:29 |
| gan | i didnt sign up for jolla c as aquafish will be priced lower than that in india | 14:29 |
| gan | thats what happened with jolla when it was launched in india...almost half the price..... | 14:29 |
| gan | :-( | 14:29 |
| gan | if i had just waited for two months , i would have got it for half price and with 4 TOH's........ | 14:30 |
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| gan | i just got white and orange from finland | 14:30 |
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| * ballock has a JollaC | 14:38 | |
| ballock | gan: I heard some rumours that Intex will get released soon™ | 14:38 |
| Renault | ahah | 14:39 |
| Renault | ballock: how is the famous cover? | 14:39 |
| ballock | Renault: the one with "Limited Edition" on top? | 14:39 |
| ballock | well, it's red. | 14:39 |
| ballock | I need an olive green with a flip case | 14:40 |
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| Renault | no, the "protective plastic cover on the screen" | 14:40 |
| ballock | Renault: I don't think I am up to date with that | 14:41 |
| ballock | like the foil? | 14:41 |
| kimmoli | no, don't get that conversation here .. https://media.giphy.com/media/UK9VbxLFOAezK/giphy.gif | 14:43 |
| Renault | why? | 14:43 |
| ballock | gan: you can also try the rice bucket challenge for Jolla1 | 14:44 |
| Renault | what is it? | 14:45 |
| ballock | you put the phone to a bucket filled with rice, it absorbs humidity | 14:45 |
| ballock | a jar might be enough, but "rice bucket challenge" sounds better ;) | 14:46 |
| Renault | ah ok, I see, but I don't see the link with his problem | 14:46 |
| ballock | Renault: The problem seems unrelated to the things gan did on the phone, recovery should be available even if btrfs is corrupt | 14:48 |
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| ballock | so the random phone blackout might be something that came from "thin air", or actually from humidity, moisture, whatever. | 14:48 |
| Renault | ok | 14:49 |
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| ballock | gan: Just make sure the rice you use is not boiled :p | 14:50 |
| Ingvix | A shame that the new pokemon go is not compatible with jolla | 14:52 |
| r0kk3rz | ballock: btrfs isnt the bottom layer though, if the EMMC has issues? yeah maybe borked | 14:52 |
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| ballock | r0kk3rz: if the emmc0 device is borked, then all the partitions, including the recovery one are not available. | 14:53 |
| r0kk3rz | obviously | 14:54 |
| ballock | And it's not so easy to just hand-replace the flash chip. | 14:54 |
| ballock | If only it was so easy... I'd replace my 1gb of ram chip in Jolla1 with a 2gb chip. My Jolla1 has reached its state-of-art, best thing out there, also thanks to the TOHKBD. If only I could just put 2gb of ram in it... | 14:56 |
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| gan | ballock: my friend suggested the same rice bucket thing today..... | 15:13 |
| gan | sure i will try this tonight | 15:13 |
| gan | should i remove the battery and keep the cover closed when i put in rice? | 15:14 |
| gan | and leave the back cover open? | 15:14 |
| kimmoli | yep, battery off, toh off | 15:15 |
| gan | i think i should try this with my N900 too. | 15:15 |
| gan | toh off means no back cover? | 15:16 |
| gan | so it absorbs the moisture better? | 15:16 |
| kimmoli | rice so that it is fully surrounded, and in closed container | 15:16 |
| gan | is that right? | 15:16 |
| kimmoli | yeah, no need to take it more apart | 15:16 |
| gan | hope the rice wont enter the board | 15:16 |
| r0kk3rz | how dusty if your rice? | 15:17 |
| r0kk3rz | *is | 15:17 |
| gan | hehe | 15:17 |
| gan | not sure, there may be some micro particles | 15:17 |
| gan | i guess | 15:17 |
| gan | anyway i will do that | 15:17 |
| gan | havent touched my N900 in 2 yrs | 15:18 |
| r0kk3rz | you can also do things like put the rice in a sock or stocking | 15:18 |
| gan | after i gave for repair | 15:18 |
| r0kk3rz | immersing the device in rice isnt really required | 15:18 |
| gan | they were unable to repair it , but they did tell me the board got damaged in moisture | 15:18 |
| gan | something like that | 15:18 |
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| gan | but it was just lying in the cupboard | 15:20 |
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| lolek | hello everybody, it's been a while since II've asked about this so I'd like to refresh my question, does sailfish finally support full phone encryption? | 19:46 |
| lolek | r0kk3rz, tbr: last time we've had a conversation about this so I hope you'll have some some knowledge about it | 19:49 |
| r0kk3rz | lolek: nope | 20:04 |
| lolek | :( | 20:04 |
| lolek | will it ever be there? | 20:04 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe? its not impossible | 20:04 |
| r0kk3rz | newer devices are lvm+ext4 after all | 20:05 |
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| lolek | r0kk3rz: yeah but as you remember, I don't want to fiddle with it. I'd prefer to have a switch in the system prefs and that's it | 20:10 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah thats not currently possible | 20:11 |
| lolek | well then I'll ask again after some time | 20:17 |
| lolek | my z10 is having problems with never webpages so I'm thinking about moving from it, but the problem is that it seems there's nothing to pick up from :( | 20:17 |
| tbr | I would be surprised if that would be a development priority at this point | 20:18 |
| r0kk3rz | imo its only useful if applied on a mass scale, as for most individuals an encrypted fs will never be tested | 20:21 |
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